Live to Be Well

Convicted

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00:02 real clients discussing sensitive issues.
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00:49 Hi, I'm Dr. Kim Logan-Nowlin, and welcome to Live To Be Well.
00:54 Today on the program,
00:55 we're going to talk about being convicted.
00:58 What are our convictions?
01:00 Being convicted and serving Jesus Christ.
01:03 Today, my special guest is Royce Mentor III.
01:06 Hi, Royce.
01:07 Hey, how are you doing?
01:09 How are you?
01:10 I'm good.
01:12 I'm good too.
01:13 Thank you for being with us
01:14 here on the Dare to Dream Ministry.
01:16 I'm so excited about seeing you.
01:17 Now, let me give you a little history.
01:19 Royce Mentor III, and my daughter Erin were born,
01:23 when were you born, Royce?
01:25 2000, February.
01:26 2000, February.
01:27 Erin was born... February what?
01:29 Fifth.
01:30 And Erin was born March 2.
01:32 So you gotta buy a couple of weeks.
01:34 And I have this picture of Royce and Erin,
01:37 babies in my arms
01:39 with your mother next to me and we're holding you all.
01:42 And look at you all today.
01:43 19.
01:45 I'm telling you grew up on me.
01:46 All right?
01:48 Now, you come to my church, you're Seventh-day Adventist,
01:51 you were born and raised Seventh-day Adventist.
01:53 Your grandfather was pastor, mentor.
01:56 Your grandmother, I know your grandmother,
01:58 I know your aunts, I know your uncle,
01:59 I know your mother, I know your father.
02:01 I know everyone.
02:02 Beautiful, godly family
02:05 and standards within the church.
02:07 And we had your uncle on the broadcast, Mr. Boom.
02:11 Yeah.
02:12 So we really enjoyed having him here.
02:15 But you, I called you one day
02:18 because I was asked to serve as superintendent.
02:21 And I was sitting around the house
02:23 and I was praying
02:24 because we had to have a pianist.
02:26 And right then and there, God said Royce Mentor III.
02:32 And I text you, and you said yes.
02:36 And I am so happy you did,
02:37 so every first Sabbath Saturday of the month,
02:41 I serve as superintendent.
02:42 And Royce is my pianist
02:44 and he also offers special music.
02:47 Awesome, awesome musician.
02:50 So convicted.
02:51 So first of all, let's learn about who Royce Mentor is.
02:54 And then let's talk about why you are convicted
02:58 and committed to God?
02:59 All right.
03:01 So I'm 19 years old as you said before,
03:03 I'm Adventist, that was my whole life.
03:05 Played the piano.
03:06 I've played the piano since five,
03:08 I stopped around sixth, seventh grade,
03:09 but then came back to around eighth grade.
03:12 Um, I work out, I do mostly calisthenics,
03:14 which is a bodyweight workout.
03:16 I'm in school right now a dual enrollment.
03:18 So I did high school and college.
03:20 I'm doing college now the transfer next year,
03:22 Lord willing, that's really about sets me up.
03:26 All right.
03:27 Sweet and simple.
03:29 Your goal is to attend what university?
03:31 Oakwood University, Lord willing next year.
03:33 Well, you're going to be studying music,
03:35 you have a good foundation at Oakwood.
03:37 And I know you'll be right there playing
03:39 with all the great musicians.
03:41 So let's talk about your...
03:43 You're so convicted, you know, you say yes.
03:46 I mean, I asked you to play for me
03:49 and stay a little bit longer.
03:51 But you had two other programs to play for at your church,
03:54 and you felt so bad
03:56 that you couldn't stay, you know.
03:57 Why are you so convicted in serving Jesus Christ?
04:01 Well, I guess it starts as a kid,
04:03 you know, you raised into the church.
04:05 And you know, your parents give you opening Sabbath
04:08 and closing Sabbath and it becomes natural for you.
04:12 But at a time, you have to choose
04:14 what you want to do it.
04:16 And you know, I guess I chose to do it.
04:18 And the Lord blessed me while doing it.
04:21 And because He's blessed me, it makes me want to do it more.
04:24 And so I took out, I took my piano skill,
04:27 and I decided, no, I can use this to play for Him,
04:31 because this is the best I got.
04:32 So I'm going to give it all to Him right
04:34 with the guy with the one talent.
04:36 This is my one talent and I'm using this talent.
04:38 And so, I choose God because, you know,
04:41 He's blessed me so much.
04:42 And He continues to bless me
04:43 even when I slip and fall sometimes,
04:45 He still picks me back up and said, hey, you know,
04:47 keep going and you're doing all right.
04:48 Just keep, keep moving forward.
04:50 And God has blessed you.
04:52 Well, why is it today in our society,
04:55 young people, we look at our churches.
04:57 I look at City Temple.
04:59 I don't know about Living Waters,
05:01 but where are all the young people?
05:04 Right now as this because it's big,
05:05 that's a big topic.
05:06 Right now, honestly, I think it's because,
05:10 you know, people are in the church
05:11 are still kind of, like,
05:13 stuck to like some of the old ways.
05:16 And, you know,
05:17 kids are not gonna want to just,
05:19 they want to kind of be free and flexible a lot of the time.
05:23 And so because they can, they can't volunteer
05:28 or do what they want to do in the church, like,
05:31 some kids want to do special music.
05:32 But all people are saying, well, you can't do that,
05:34 we have to do this.
05:35 And they want to help in the church.
05:37 But sometimes a lot of people in churches
05:38 won't let them do it because they're young,
05:40 because they're not ready, that they're saying they just,
05:42 they just wanting to leave,
05:44 because they're not being able to, you know,
05:45 kind of contribute to the church.
05:47 So they get discouraged?
05:48 Yes, I think that's one of the big reasons
05:50 as to why they're leaving.
05:52 I remember when I first was asked
05:54 to be the hospitality on the committee.
05:58 And I said, well, what's involved,
05:59 and I was like, 15, 16, well,
06:01 you have to stand up and welcome everyone.
06:04 And I'm like, I won't do that.
06:06 And I remember that my grandmother said,
06:09 you need to learn how to do this.
06:11 Because these skills you learn in the church
06:14 will help you in life.
06:16 Do you agree that the skills we learn in church,
06:19 how I know it's helped me in my business?
06:21 And where I, the Lord has taken me?
06:24 Do you feel that the church
06:25 is the foundation to learn skills,
06:27 personally and professionally?
06:29 Definitely, even the small stuff
06:31 like I used to help with tithe and offering,
06:33 I'd be one of the, one of the offering barriers
06:35 that pass out, pass the plate down.
06:38 And at first it's kind of like nerve-racking,
06:40 because you have to stand up and walk forward
06:42 and then walk back and hand it
06:43 and wait for the person to come down.
06:45 But you know, when you get older and older,
06:46 it gets easier,
06:48 because you begin to know the people
06:49 and talking to them and passing it down
06:51 is just, this is small thought, is easy and easy.
06:54 And the bigger plans you do in the church,
06:56 you know, the easier it gets.
06:57 And you know, I want to say that
07:00 if you are doing these roles in the church,
07:03 you get to know the members in the church,
07:06 they see you involve, participating.
07:09 And you know,
07:10 you guys have some of the best fellowship dinners,
07:13 you know, I mean,
07:14 do you enjoy staying after church
07:16 and having those great Sabbath dinners?
07:17 I love it.
07:19 You know, because it opens the door to get to know people.
07:21 And so you guys are still having those.
07:24 I know I've got to come over and visit.
07:26 It's been a while.
07:27 But I'm so busy in my own church.
07:29 That's another thing.
07:30 You get so busy,
07:32 and you can't visit like you know would like
07:34 to but you have to give back in your own church.
07:38 Royce, let me ask you.
07:41 Wellness,
07:42 you said that you work out your exercise.
07:44 But what about the wellness of your mind?
07:47 Dealing with stress?
07:48 How does...
07:49 How do you as a young person deal with just
07:51 because we see stress in our young people,
07:54 they're committing suicide, they are isolating themselves,
07:58 turning to different vices.
07:59 What are you doing to maintain your wellness balance?
08:05 So when I'm having a problem
08:07 and I'm having like a deep a deep,
08:09 stressful moment, actually I work out,
08:12 I'll look and hit the heavy bag.
08:14 You know, do some explosive workouts.
08:16 But if it's, if it's like a little too,
08:18 like I really can't do that I really want to do anything.
08:21 I'll just play some hymns.
08:23 Know, it's so sweet to trust in Jesus.
08:25 That's one of my favorite hymns just to play.
08:27 And just fingering it out, playing it slow,
08:30 listening to the word, playing the words,
08:32 saying the words while you play it,
08:34 that really helps me.
08:35 You know, calm, calm down,
08:37 and then go back to the planning.
08:38 It is so sweet to trust in Jesus,
08:41 just to take Him at His Word.
08:44 How does prayer work in your wellness balance?
08:48 So every morning, I wake up, and I'll reassess Christ.
08:52 And I'll say, I'll say a small prayer
08:55 or simple, simple prayer.
08:56 Just be with my day,
08:58 and have me do what You would have me to do.
09:01 And that will be my prayer for the morning.
09:04 I will say, even if one to two small prayers a day,
09:10 just something because prayer is very important
09:12 to keep connected.
09:13 So at least one or two small prayers a day
09:14 because God knows where you are,
09:16 you know, He knows everyone's strengths and weaknesses.
09:19 Or if you can at least say does God help me
09:21 or thank You God for today, or there's something,
09:24 something small, that that'd be sufficient.
09:27 You know, to be so young, and the hymns,
09:31 the hymns are so beautiful.
09:33 And sometimes we get away from hymns.
09:35 And we even complain that you know,
09:37 we're doing the same hymns over and over again,
09:40 or the same scriptures because you'll hear
09:43 the 23rd Psalms or you'll hear Hebrews 11 or Genesis 1:1,
09:48 but it's important for us to stay connected to the Lord.
09:52 And I think it doesn't take a lot
09:55 to just spend time with God.
09:58 You know, why do you think is, you know, because of...
10:01 Is it because of social media,
10:03 is because everybody's on this fast pace,
10:06 you know, and not just young people,
10:07 us as adults also, older adults,
10:11 that we don't stop to spend time with God.
10:14 What do you think?
10:15 Is it because of this fast paced social media,
10:19 or at work or demands of the job,
10:21 or is all of it?
10:23 I think is most of the person's all about all excuses,
10:26 you know, I wake up, or I'm too tired to.
10:30 I had to... I had to do this, this and that.
10:31 So I have to, you know, go eat,
10:33 I have to go change and to do all these,
10:34 they, they come with every excuse in the book,
10:37 so they don't have to do it.
10:38 And then when night comes, and they have night worships,
10:42 they'll be like, Oh, I'm too tired,
10:44 had a long day,
10:45 had to get up early in the morning.
10:46 And the cycle back go round and round.
10:48 I think, just the person themselves
10:50 and their excuses is the main reason
10:52 why people still don't.
10:54 So people get lazy, but they can watch
10:56 all the sports on television,
10:59 stay awake, dozing off, I'm paying for that,
11:01 I'm paying for that cable, you know, but no time with God.
11:05 I think God gets sad
11:07 when we don't spend time with Him.
11:09 Because He wants that communion with us.
11:11 And we need to be convicted like
11:13 you're convicted by working out,
11:15 when they be convicted about studying the Word of God,
11:18 convicted, we have to be passionate
11:20 about God and having a relationship with God.
11:24 I think it's important that not just going to church,
11:28 but having relationship.
11:29 You and I have a relationship, we have a bond,
11:32 because we know I've known you since before you were born.
11:36 And when I see you,
11:37 I'm always so excited to see you,
11:39 it's like the first time because of that relationship
11:42 I have with you.
11:43 How do you think young people can fit better into the church?
11:49 Or do we as the older saints,
11:51 the people of God need to let you all do more?
11:56 I think at least a good first step
11:59 is for the where at least,
12:00 they get to know, know each other
12:02 and then allows young people that come to the church,
12:04 and he doesn't know that person,
12:05 or the elder doesn't know that person at all.
12:07 So once they first build a connection with them,
12:09 at least tell them know name to name basis,
12:12 then we kind of move forward.
12:14 And we can see if they can.
12:15 And as a young person to preach once,
12:17 one Saturday or ask them to play special music
12:20 or give on, give an offering or testimony,
12:22 something small to start off with to kind of start
12:25 to bring them in little more.
12:26 Right.
12:27 I know with my own wellness growing up in the church,
12:30 I was asked to be involved with different programs
12:33 and my mom would say, you need to be an usher.
12:36 Now that was one thing I just said,
12:38 that is not my calling to be an usher.
12:41 And I was a pathfinder.
12:43 And my wellness that really helped me
12:45 to be well rounded with my mental health.
12:48 I had a good relationship with my pastor,
12:50 his wife and family.
12:52 And I think that my stress during the week
12:55 was maybe high as a teenager,
12:58 school activities or things I was dealing with.
13:00 But I was so excited when the Sabbath came
13:03 and to be able to go and attend church
13:06 and I loved the choir rehearse or so,
13:08 and then and that was our place to meet and come together.
13:12 How could you say to a young person
13:16 who may be battling with alcohol,
13:18 and their wellness and you know them,
13:21 they go to church with you?
13:22 And they're using other substances?
13:26 What would you say to them to turn to Jesus?
13:30 Well, I first ask them know, why do you turn to alcohol?
13:35 Why, what makes you want to continue to drink like,
13:38 you know, that it destroys your body.
13:41 And you know, it's not good for you know,
13:43 that, you know, God doesn't want you
13:44 because your body is temple of God,
13:45 doesn't want you to destroy it.
13:47 So I first ask them, why they do what they do.
13:50 And then you know, 'cause they're in the church,
13:52 they know the truth, they just have to,
13:54 they have to, to live it, they have to accept it.
13:57 You know, so I have to 'cause that's kind of hard,
14:00 I probably asked him, you know,
14:03 to do some Bible studies with here and there,
14:05 or ask the pastor about it.
14:07 Because you know, we have a cool pastor.
14:08 You know, it's pretty, he's not super young,
14:10 but he's young at heart.
14:11 Yeah.
14:12 So if you can, if you have a comfortable conversation
14:14 with an elder or a pastor that can kind of,
14:17 that's doesn't like shame for doing
14:18 what you do but at least talks you through,
14:20 you need to kind of has to progress.
14:22 Don't push the young people out of the church.
14:23 But yet, you know,
14:25 the young people need to go through training.
14:27 You know, every office that I've served in the church,
14:30 I was trained coming up,
14:32 you know, being praise and worship leader.
14:34 And I used to remember,
14:35 one day I'm going to be minister of music.
14:37 But you know how long it took me
14:38 to get to be minister music?
14:40 Twenty five years, because I was still,
14:43 it wasn't God's time.
14:45 And I was still learning.
14:46 I was still learning the hymns.
14:48 I was still learning
14:49 how to make sure it was a good fit
14:52 when I did praise and worship
14:53 and then moving into other things
14:55 that I was still worship leader.
14:59 I was able to give back to God's church
15:01 because we don't stay in the church
15:04 who's going to be there to carry on the church.
15:07 So the second, third, fourth, fifth generation,
15:10 so when people say you're fourth generation.
15:13 Well, yes, because I'm still here.
15:15 But even Royce, I'm gonna tell you,
15:17 people of my age,
15:19 they've stopped going to church years ago,
15:22 and they're trying to find their way back.
15:24 And they missed so much.
15:26 And by the time they get back to church,
15:28 their wellness is like,
15:30 well, you know, I've been gone so long.
15:33 I'm kind of embarrassed to be back,
15:36 you know, we should still help those people to feel welcome.
15:40 Remember, when I introduced you to the City Temple.
15:42 That was a part of your wellness,
15:44 helping you to feel good
15:46 about being there and not be stressed.
15:48 And when people found out that who you were,
15:51 because we're all connected some way,
15:54 but they were just happy
15:56 to connect you to your grandfather.
15:58 You know, you were, where you born
16:01 when you lost your grandfather?
16:02 He died before I was born.
16:03 Yes, a great man.
16:05 Yes, a great man, great man of God.
16:08 But looking at the wellness, how you talk to people.
16:12 I noticed you're very polite.
16:14 You know, great eye contact, well poise.
16:18 Do you use your faith in school?
16:21 Do you get a chance to minister or witness to anyone in school?
16:25 I tried to, it was few years ago,
16:28 I was in this class called focus.
16:31 And they kind of teach you like the basic skills of life.
16:33 And this teacher, she was Jewish,
16:35 and she has do this, this project.
16:40 And it said, it gives a list of things to do.
16:43 And I said, she said fit it all in one week.
16:45 You can't take anything out.
16:47 Well, one of them said concert Friday night,
16:49 and a party Saturday.
16:53 She said don't take anything out.
16:54 But I knew you know, if it's real life,
16:56 we're playing real life.
16:57 I'm gonna take this out regardless.
16:59 So I took it out.
17:00 And I told her, because she said, everyone,
17:03 everyone know, tell they did.
17:05 So I told her she was like,
17:06 you can't you can't take this out.
17:08 So now you're fired from your job
17:10 because blah, blah.
17:11 And I was like, well, I'm Seventh-day Adventist,
17:13 and from Friday night,
17:14 Saturday's Friday night to Saturday night,
17:17 it's my Sabbath.
17:19 So I can't, you know, go to work that day,
17:22 or do anything that's ungodly.
17:24 And she was like, well, we'll see you, so you're fired.
17:25 And I said, well, I'm sure.
17:27 No, if it was God's plan, I'm gonna find another job.
17:30 And everything's gonna go well, because Saturday,
17:32 it's a seventh day.
17:33 And she always told my house Sunday was a seventh day,
17:36 and she was trying to go through
17:37 all this history or whatnot.
17:39 But um, after class,
17:41 I kind of talked her through it,
17:42 I give her one of those little small pamphlets.
17:44 And I asked her if she had any question
17:46 for me later, blah-blah.
17:48 And, you know,
17:49 around the beginning of that year,
17:51 she was kind of just mean,
17:52 and one of those feisty teachers,
17:54 but around the end of the year,
17:55 and still today, she's super nice.
17:57 She's hugging people,
17:58 she always greets me with a smile and a hug.
18:02 And I don't know if she read it or not,
18:04 but you can, you can definitely see a change.
18:06 So here and then I'll try to tell my teachers
18:09 or some of my Muslim friends about Adventism,
18:12 and Jesus Christ and whatnot.
18:13 That is a blessing.
18:15 Now, in your wellness and having balanced.
18:19 You know, when do you get a break?
18:20 Do you play every Sabbath?
18:22 Are you the only pianist on duty at church?
18:25 So, you know, as you know,
18:26 I play for the mostly in Youth Federation Praise Team.
18:29 And we play, you know, in different churches,
18:31 maybe two or three times a month.
18:33 But my church has another pianist.
18:35 So sometimes I'll play with him,
18:38 but mostly just to practice for my ear
18:41 and just to get better at what I'm doing,
18:42 but usually he's there.
18:44 But just about every Saturday, I'm playing the piano.
18:45 I'm not complaining.
18:47 All right, and I know you love serving the Lord.
18:50 But we all have to have that me time.
18:52 God wants us to look at our mental health,
18:55 our physical, emotional,
18:57 He wants us to be well balanced spiritually.
19:00 And if any of those things are off balance,
19:03 it's going to throw the whole core off.
19:05 So the Bible is very clear,
19:07 do everything decently and in order.
19:10 So we need to, when we cut that pie,
19:13 we want to cut it evenly
19:14 so that everything stays in balance.
19:17 You know, rest.
19:18 What about getting your rest,
19:20 you get enough rest in a part of your wellness?
19:22 I do.
19:23 'Cause young people want to stay up and you know,
19:26 so you get 8-10 hours of sleep.
19:27 Yeah, I like sleep.
19:31 You know, I need to sleep more, you know, I'm so busy,
19:35 but I have to get my rest.
19:37 When it comes to the Word of God,
19:42 I heard you say, you read the Steps to Christ,
19:44 that's every morning you read the Steps to Christ?
19:47 Every morning when I wake up
19:48 and every night before I go to sleep.
19:49 See just witness.
19:51 You just witness to me.
19:52 I've not picked up my little red
19:53 Steps to Christ book,
19:55 the little red book, the little, you know,
19:57 paperback, I'm reading all my other books.
20:00 I've been reading Adventist Homes.
20:02 I've been reading Patriarchs and Prophets.
20:04 I've been reading Acts of the Apostle.
20:08 I've been reading like those books,
20:09 but Steps to Christ was a beautiful book.
20:12 And this book is written by Ellen G. White.
20:15 And we use her books in our church,
20:19 our schools and in our training,
20:21 amazing books.
20:23 So why Steps to Christ?
20:25 I was always told, you know, Steps to Christ is a good book,
20:27 you have to reset to Christ blah, blah, blah.
20:29 And, you know, I was like, I just one day,
20:31 we're gonna try it.
20:32 Let's read it, it's one, maybe two, three paragraphs
20:34 every morning, every night.
20:36 And so far, you know, they weren't wrong.
20:38 It's a great book.
20:39 It's a great book.
20:40 So have you read it all the way through
20:42 and you're reading it again?
20:43 I'm on Chapter 3 right now. Chapter 3.
20:46 So what have you learned so far in Step to Christ?
20:49 A lot of the stuff is just more of a recycling,
20:52 but it kind of just, it kind of pushes the point,
20:55 you know, that God, God's always going to be there.
20:57 You know, it doesn't matter how low you think
20:59 you're going to get
21:00 or how low you think you already are.
21:02 No, God is always going to be right beside you.
21:04 It's going to be on you'd have to push them away.
21:06 But he's not, you know, he's not going to be,
21:08 he's going to be there.
21:09 You know, that's one of the biggest points
21:12 that I've got from the book so far.
21:13 That God will never leave you...
21:15 He'll never leave you nor forsake you.
21:16 Or forsake you. That's right.
21:18 So being convicted with God, a relationship with God,
21:23 having total wellness, having good health,
21:27 when it comes to your mental
21:28 and emotional balance, all right?
21:32 Are you dating? No.
21:34 Would you date with?
21:37 Okay, I'll just want to say,
21:38 dating Adventist and someone who's not in the church,
21:42 because I when I met Brother Nowlin,
21:44 he was not Seventh-day Adventist.
21:46 But he was Catholic.
21:48 But I witnessed him
21:50 and I invited him to Sabbath school.
21:53 And he was like, what is this?
21:55 And I said, Sabbath School, we learn about the Bible.
21:58 Three months later, he was baptized, sink.
22:01 And three years later, we were married.
22:04 And people will say, well, what are you waiting for?
22:06 I said, for God to tell me to marry him.
22:08 Because right now,
22:10 all I'm supposed to do is be a witness.
22:13 So you know, you,
22:14 you only tell me nobody else to know.
22:17 Are you dating? I'm not.
22:19 You're not, you're just at school.
22:20 Yeah, at school.
22:22 Focusing on your exercising,
22:24 your relationship with God most importantly,
22:26 and just take piano your music.
22:29 Yes. Any other instruments?
22:32 No, I tried the guitar for a bit.
22:34 It was all right as to for a class,
22:36 two months I kept practicing.
22:37 But then you know, I stopped.
22:38 Okay.
22:40 You know, why did you stopped playing the piano before,
22:41 was it just something you decided to put down
22:43 for a little while?
22:44 Um, I was going to teach it to different churches.
22:46 I went to metropolitan for a bit
22:48 and they had a piano teacher there.
22:50 And she was, she was just abusive verbally,
22:52 not physically, she was just verbally abusive,
22:53 telling me, no, you had to do it this way.
22:55 This is you play like why you do it wrong.
22:57 She called me. She'll call me names.
22:59 It was not kind of good names and kind of had discouraged me.
23:02 So I stopped for a few years saying if,
23:05 oh, she's saying we're doing it wrong, and she's a teacher.
23:07 So I'm doing it wrong.
23:08 So you know, I can't do it right.
23:09 So I just stopped for a bit.
23:11 One of my piano teachers hit me on the hand.
23:13 And that was, that was abuse.
23:15 So that can discourage a young person.
23:18 And that's why we have to be careful with you
23:21 all in the church.
23:22 Because once we attack your mental health
23:25 and your wellness,
23:27 you're not going to want to come back.
23:29 You know, and you know, we'll do it.
23:31 We'll show you how it's done.
23:33 Well, teachers, trainers,
23:35 but you can talk to us in a way
23:36 that's loving and kind,
23:38 so that they want to come back, you know and do something.
23:42 I'm so happy that you Regina, Lindsay,
23:46 some of our young people
23:47 at the City Temple Seventh-day Adventist Church,
23:49 have you pulling together
23:51 from all the different churches.
23:53 And I believe God is going to use you all
23:56 to help win others to Christ
23:58 because we are living in the last days.
24:00 Do you believe that? Definitely.
24:02 Tell me why you believe that we are living in last days?
24:04 All the signs that are, you know, popping up,
24:07 they just tell that God's coming back,
24:09 you know, all the stuff is happening
24:11 to the earth itself naturally.
24:13 And then you know, people just
24:15 and then the Sunday laws kind of becoming a little more,
24:17 little more pushed, little more pushed.
24:19 I've noticed that, you know,
24:21 talking to different people here and there.
24:23 Just reading about the signs of the times
24:25 just in Bible Revelation and in Job,
24:28 you can definitely see that this is the end.
24:31 Almost definitely.
24:32 You know, when I was reading the Great Controversy,
24:34 certain things have already happened.
24:37 And then I go back to Revelation,
24:39 I go back to Job, the Book of Daniel,
24:41 and there's just so much and I'm not afraid,
24:43 you know, to read the Bible
24:45 because these things must happen
24:47 for Jesus to come.
24:49 You know, are you excited about Jesus coming again?
24:52 I am, I used to be kind of,
24:53 kind of scared because you know,
24:55 it's scary all like, all the hailstorms
24:57 and the stars falling and the blood moon and all,
25:01 this all these natural phenomenons,
25:02 not counting what people are going to do,
25:04 you know, it was, it was kind of scary.
25:06 But then when you realize that,
25:09 after you finish the race or after the fight is over,
25:11 you know, which is just gonna be
25:13 happiness as you with him.
25:15 And Jesus, you know,
25:16 I don't care if I'm in the front of the line,
25:18 in the back of the line, on the side,
25:21 you know, I was reading where the 12 tribes.
25:25 And when I took a class at my church,
25:28 with my pastor, my former pastor,
25:29 William Joseph,
25:31 and I was studying about the books of the Bible,
25:34 the 12 tribes,
25:36 and I was able to learn about my own personality,
25:39 and understand certain things,
25:41 why certain things have happened.
25:43 But all these things must come to pass
25:45 for Jesus to come.
25:47 Let me ask you this.
25:48 Where do you see yourself
25:51 as a leader growing up in the church now?
25:55 Where do you see yourself?
25:56 Well now, because I play the piano,
25:59 I've been able to get you want people to see,
26:03 I've been able to ask people,
26:04 you know, if you want to do special music or not,
26:06 and I guess that's kind of my,
26:08 my way in, because, you know,
26:09 I hate talking in front of people
26:11 as you can see.
26:13 You're doing great.
26:15 You know, but I think me being a musician,
26:19 it just kind of paved my path into leadership,
26:22 because soon, hopefully,
26:24 I plan to lead a praise team down,
26:28 teach them their parts and all that stuff,
26:29 and hopefully bring more people into the church by doing that,
26:32 because you know, lot of people love music.
26:34 So if you play a little more, you know, I guess not,
26:37 not fashion gospel music, but a little more,
26:39 the newer gospel music,
26:41 it'll kind of just bring them more in.
26:42 So I guess, me as a paste of a piano player,
26:45 it will be kind of my way in.
26:47 Do you write?
26:48 I do. I do. No words.
26:50 It's mostly just instrumentals.
26:52 Just instrumental.
26:53 This young man, I've seen him, he was so quiet,
26:57 shy, very, very humble.
27:00 Christ was humble.
27:02 Royce, all I ask is that you continue
27:05 to keep your wellness with God.
27:07 Stay focused on God. I thank you so much for coming.
27:10 Any last words to young people today
27:13 about Jesus and their relationship?
27:16 I would say the same thing I told my workout friends,
27:19 you make time for what you want.
27:21 So even if it's a five minute workout,
27:24 aiming to work out eight minutes with God,
27:26 five minutes with God a day
27:28 is going to be enough for where you are now.
27:32 I had a pastor once tell me if you read at least a verse,
27:35 a verse a day is better than nothing at all.
27:39 You make time for what you want.
27:40 If you want to be on your phone, eight hours,
27:42 nine hours a day watching TV or anything else you can,
27:44 you can do this.
27:46 You can work out, you can read your Bible,
27:47 you can pray, you just have to,
27:49 you know, the one is all mindset.
27:51 It's a mindset.
27:53 Did you hear this young man said,
27:54 it's all a mindset, mind over matter.
27:57 Well, I'm excited, and I'm going to do even more,
28:00 studying more, and I want to live to be well.
28:03 Thank you for joining us once again
28:05 on the Dare to Dream Network.
28:07 I'm Dr. Kim. Live be well.
28:09 God bless.


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