Live to Be Well

Reaching New Heights

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00:01 The following program features
00:02 real clients discussing sensitive issues.
00:05 The views and opinions expressed in this program
00:07 don't necessarily reflect
00:09 that of 3ABN's Dare to Dream Network.
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00:49 Hi, I'm Dr. Kim Logan-Nowlin, and welcome to Live To Be Well.
00:54 Reaching new heights, that is my desire every day
00:58 to reach new heights in my Lord and Savior Jesus Christ.
01:02 What is live to be well?
01:03 Mind, body, and soul.
01:04 And today, I am blessed to have Dr. Portia Lockett.
01:10 God bless you, Dr. Portia, how are you?
01:12 I am amazing.
01:13 You look amazing. Thank you, and you as well.
01:16 Thank you so much.
01:17 You know, we have connected as sisters in Christ
01:21 in our work,
01:22 and you referred
01:23 so many amazing clients and patients to me
01:26 and I will be forever grateful.
01:28 Oh, you're welcome.
01:29 Well, let's talk about the... Who is Dr. Portia
01:32 and the challenges that you face
01:34 because this awesome woman is a chaplain.
01:37 And so we wanna talk about that.
01:39 So share that with us?
01:40 Okay, well, I am a chaplain and spiritual advisor to many.
01:44 And so in my chaplain role, I meet the needs of individuals
01:48 who are spiritually hurting, emotionally hurting,
01:52 as well as mentally hurting.
01:53 And so I meet them right where they are
01:55 and escort them where the God wants them to be.
01:57 Are these also employees also?
01:59 Some of them are employees, some of them are patients,
02:02 and some of them are family members of the patients.
02:04 And just sometimes it's just people in the grocery store.
02:07 I can be anywhere.
02:08 And so, but mainly, you know, in the hospital setting,
02:10 you know, people will be referred to me,
02:12 you know, when they come in because a lot of times
02:13 when people find out that they're sick
02:15 or there's something going on,
02:17 that they're not really sure of,
02:18 they want to reach out to a higher being.
02:21 You know, regardless of what their religion may be.
02:24 And so as a chaplain,
02:25 I have to meet them where they are
02:27 from an interfaith perspective
02:29 and just supporting them on their healing journey.
02:32 So how many patients do you see a day
02:34 if say, for example, you have four or five people.
02:37 You have how many people on your team?
02:39 Are there other chaplains on your team?
02:41 Yes, they are.
02:42 And so you could be anywhere in the hospital
02:45 and it could be someone, a family just lost a loved one.
02:48 Absolutely.
02:49 And you're called, tell us about that?
02:50 So a lot of times we'll get paged
02:52 or sometimes we'll get a consult,
02:53 or sometimes I could just be rounding on the floors
02:55 and someone will walk up to me and say,
02:57 you know, you may wanna stop in on the patient,
02:59 you know, in five ICU,
03:01 someone is in need of your services.
03:02 Or there's a family that's over there,
03:04 they just receive some bad news.
03:05 And so again, I'll just go and meet them
03:07 right where they are
03:08 and introduce myself.
03:10 And typically, you know, you will walk up and say,
03:12 you know, I'm the chaplain and I'm just stopping by,
03:14 you know, just to support you.
03:15 But, you know, I try to bring life
03:18 into every situation.
03:19 So I'll walk in and just says,
03:21 hi, I'm your chaplain, Portia Lockett.
03:22 And I just stopped by
03:24 to drop off a bucket full of blessings
03:25 and an extra dose of love.
03:26 So, you know, and I'm here to support you on your journey.
03:28 How can I be here to support you?
03:29 And that kinda brings a softness to it
03:32 and allows them to be able to open up
03:34 and explain to me, or share with me
03:36 whatever their challenges may be
03:37 at that particular time.
03:38 'Cause they could be on the defense
03:40 because they don't know who you are.
03:41 Absolutely.
03:42 And so therefore they're kind of, you know,
03:44 reserved about sharing information.
03:46 Have you ever met a family in the beginning stages
03:50 and they were in the hospital brought in,
03:53 but then you had to go in again after they passed?
03:55 Oh, absolutely.
03:57 And so a lot of times in the palliative care doctors
03:59 will call me and say, you know, we need your support.
04:02 We're gonna go in and talk with this family,
04:04 you know, because the hours are numbered
04:06 or the days are numbered
04:08 and we would love for you to be able to be a support
04:10 or the patient could have just transitioned
04:12 and the family doesn't know about it yet.
04:14 And so they want me to go in and talk with the family
04:16 about what happened.
04:18 It's like, as you know, mom or dad
04:19 or sister or brother, your wife came in
04:21 with these symptoms
04:23 and we discovered this was going on
04:25 and this was going on.
04:26 And now, you know, we treated this
04:28 and we treated that,
04:29 but unfortunately we did everything
04:31 that we could possibly do.
04:32 And unfortunately mom did not make it.
04:35 And so, I'm there just to support
04:36 and sometimes people go into complete shock.
04:38 Some people go into outrage
04:40 because you know, they're angry, you know?
04:42 And so I'm just there to meet them where they are
04:44 and just to give them some support.
04:46 And so every situation is different.
04:48 Yes.
04:49 What about when you have children?
04:52 You know, is it different? Is it harder for you?
04:55 Oh, absolutely.
04:56 You know, I've been there, you know,
04:58 with families expecting their first child
05:00 and you know, you make it to that ninth month
05:03 and then something just happens
05:05 and then the baby is still born or the baby is born
05:08 and then three days later something happens
05:10 and the baby did not make it.
05:11 It's like, so how do you explain that
05:14 to a mother or a father?
05:16 It's just like, you know, I don't wanna talk about it,
05:18 I don't wanna talk about God.
05:20 I don't want to hear it.
05:21 You know, it's like, you know, not now,
05:23 just come back later, you know,
05:25 and then I'll peep back in, you know, from time to time.
05:27 And just, I'm just here to support,
05:28 you know, you don't have a talk about that.
05:30 I just want you to know that I'm here to support you.
05:31 So however you feel it's okay.
05:34 Nobody can dictate
05:35 how you should be feeling right now,
05:37 how you should grieve,
05:38 how long you should be grieving,
05:39 when you should be grieving, you know?
05:41 So, and it's different for,
05:42 you know, for moms and for dads,
05:44 it's all depending on the relationship
05:46 will determined how that person is going to grieve.
05:48 Go back to palliative care.
05:50 I remember hearing that term
05:52 before Arthur went into hospice.
05:54 Yes.
05:55 So let's talk about palliative care
05:57 and then hospice?
05:58 Sure.
05:59 So palliative care can be for any type of chronic disease.
06:01 It doesn't necessarily mean that that person
06:04 is in the process of transitioning,
06:05 but they just wanna make sure
06:07 that there is comfort care that that patient is comfortable.
06:10 Because a lot of times when patients are,
06:12 let's just say experiencing, you know, a cancer,
06:15 you know, there's over 300 different types of cancers.
06:17 And so when it attacks your body,
06:19 you know, it can make you feel a certain kind of way.
06:21 And so with that being said,
06:23 you know, depending on the medication,
06:24 depending on what the diagnosis,
06:26 the prognosis may be,
06:27 will determine how that person
06:29 is going to be feeling physically.
06:30 So we wanna make sure that that person is cared for
06:34 and comfortable at all times,
06:36 no matter what the diagnosis may be.
06:38 And in terms of hospice, you know, normally they'll say,
06:41 you know, when you go into hospice,
06:42 we've done everything that we can possibly do,
06:44 but unfortunately your organs,
06:46 you know, are beginning to shut down,
06:48 and physically,
06:50 you know, through tests, you know, the doctors,
06:52 you know, they can pretty much tell
06:53 when things are getting ready to go
06:55 on a downward spiral.
06:56 And sometimes hospice could last for a year.
06:58 You know, I know people who have been told,
07:00 you know, we need to put your mother,
07:01 we need to put your father in hospice.
07:03 And those people are still living,
07:04 it's two years later, it's like, okay,
07:05 what happens like only God knows.
07:07 Only the Lord knows.
07:08 Yes, I remember when we went into hospice
07:12 it was one day
07:13 because Arthur's request was to go home
07:16 and they kept saying, he's not gonna live 24 hours.
07:19 He lived eight days.
07:21 And, but he wanted to be home.
07:23 He wanted to be in his surroundings,
07:25 he was still talking.
07:26 They said, "Let him eat whatever he wanted to eat."
07:29 And he just was comfortable,
07:33 but I do remember the chaplain
07:35 coming to the room and praying with me
07:39 and encouraging me to come
07:41 to groups of workshops.
07:45 Yes, talk about that for the families?
07:47 Sure.
07:48 So, you know, we have sessions
07:50 that are set up on a regular basis.
07:51 And sometimes we even if we don't have them
07:53 right there in their area,
07:54 I will refer them out to other organizations
07:56 that provide grief support.
07:58 And so depending on what type of grief
07:59 or depending on the relationship.
08:01 So for example, you may have a family,
08:05 you know, who needs the whole family being there.
08:07 You may not want to put them
08:08 in a group setting with other individuals
08:10 because they need their own.
08:12 And so, sometimes it's just a mother
08:14 who was just having a really, really hard time.
08:15 And so I may have to refer her out or one of our chaplains
08:18 will make a commitment to say,
08:19 you know, over the next four weeks,
08:21 we're gonna sit down with you on a regular basis.
08:23 What about follow-up?
08:24 I know I received calls for a few months.
08:26 Absolutely.
08:28 And do you do that follow-up with the families?
08:29 Absolutely.
08:31 I have some families that, you know,
08:32 still keep in contact with me
08:33 when they're at the hospital
08:35 or, you know, sometimes in the area
08:36 they'll reach out to me
08:38 or some of them we've developed long-term relationships.
08:39 And we, you know,
08:41 we keep in contact with each other
08:42 on a regular basis.
08:43 There was one patient
08:45 that I had had, I think I met her in 2010
08:49 and she lived for about four years
08:51 after the doctors kept saying, there's nothing else,
08:54 nothing else, there's nothing else.
08:55 And I remember her saying,
08:57 you know, when it's my time to transition
08:59 and they say, there's nothing else
09:00 that they can do for me.
09:02 And they go in hospice, I want you to come,
09:04 and I want you to be at my home,
09:05 and I want you to sing to me until I transition.
09:09 And so that was a beautiful thing.
09:10 So I drove about an hour and a half
09:12 up to Metamora, Michigan.
09:13 And I was there with her family.
09:15 Her husband was in the kitchen cooking
09:17 and it was a Polish family and the family was there.
09:20 The dog was just laid out and we were just singing.
09:23 And, you know, I held her hand and the daughter
09:26 I think was there and, you know, given her medication
09:28 again to keep her comfortable
09:30 so that she would not be experiencing any pain.
09:32 And she transitioned
09:33 and I still keep in contact
09:35 with that family.
09:36 In the family. Absolutely.
09:37 When we talk about transitioning
09:39 or patient pass away, talk about that?
09:42 Specifically when I say transitioning or transition,
09:46 that means that person's in the process of transitioning
09:49 and the doctors can know,
09:50 you know, they can detect by various tests,
09:52 you know of what's going on with that patient
09:55 at that particular time, their vitals, I should say.
09:57 And then when we say transition,
09:59 that mean that patient has passed away.
10:02 Yes.
10:04 We know in the Seventh-day Adventist message
10:06 and in the Word of God,
10:07 the state of the dead,
10:08 when one passes away, the dead know nothing.
10:12 And we know that the Bible says
10:15 when the trumpet shall sound
10:16 and the dead in Christ shall rise first,
10:18 and those that remain
10:19 will be caught up to meet Him.
10:21 So we have that blessed hope to know,
10:24 as I did with my husband passing away
10:27 that he fell asleep.
10:28 And that is our desire, and that is our prayer
10:30 that our loved ones pass away
10:33 and fall asleep and rest in Jesus
10:36 and that their election is made sure.
10:38 So let's be clear
10:40 when we talk about transitioning,
10:41 that is not a state of just in the air somewhere,
10:46 they are asleep, they are in the grave.
10:50 They are exactly what the Word of God states.
10:53 And so a lot of times
10:54 people talk about that they can,
10:56 I can talk to my mother, I can talk to my father,
10:59 my mother and father looking out for me,
11:01 God is looking out for you.
11:03 The Bible is very clear that the dead know nothing
11:07 and that they are sleeping in the grave.
11:11 So, you know, and it's hard sometimes
11:13 to accept that because we wanna,
11:15 you know, think that,
11:17 you know, Arthur is looking at, no, no.
11:19 A friend of mine said that to me.
11:20 And I said, "No."
11:22 "Well, yes, he is." I said, "No."
11:23 And I took her right to the Word,
11:25 she says, I never saw that.
11:26 You know, so, it's important that
11:29 we as spiritual leaders in the care for people
11:32 that we understand
11:34 what God is ministering through us.
11:36 Let's talk about self-care.
11:38 You know, your work is demanding,
11:41 my work is demanding.
11:42 How do we get that self-care in there,
11:45 exercise, rest?
11:46 Absolutely. All right.
11:48 Shame on me, Dr. Portia,
11:49 I didn't get to bed at about 1:00 AM,
11:52 you know, doing more sessions and crisis arise.
11:56 How do we say no? It's so hard, help me?
12:00 How do we say no? Well, you know what?
12:02 We have to know our limits.
12:03 Some of us require five hours of sleep.
12:06 Some of us require six or seven or eight hours of sleep.
12:08 You know your body, you know your temple.
12:10 Okay?
12:11 And it's up to you to take care of that temple
12:13 because nobody else is gonna do it,
12:15 because the last thing you want
12:16 is to be in a situation where somebody else
12:18 is making decisions for you.
12:20 And I don't want that because the Bible says
12:22 that the body is the temple of the Holy Spirit,
12:25 and we have to take care of this temple.
12:27 So I had to stop close up my paperwork.
12:30 I was doing phone sessions, Skype sessions.
12:32 I said no more, but I try to accommodate everyone,
12:35 but boundaries, setting boundaries.
12:37 Absolutely, that's very important.
12:38 And so you got, again,
12:40 you have to learn how to say no.
12:41 And unfortunately I'm not able to help you at this time,
12:43 but let me give you a timeframe that I'm able to help you,
12:45 because sometimes they wanna text you,
12:47 they wanna call you.
12:48 I need you now.
12:50 He says, you know what?
12:51 I would really like to be able to help you now,
12:52 but unfortunately my schedule for today
12:54 and for the next week is filled.
12:55 So we can either set up appointment to talk,
12:57 you know, in the next week,
12:58 I'm gonna refer you to someone else
12:59 that might be able to help you more immediately than I can.
13:02 And I'm going to also pray that you get the help
13:05 that you need at this particular time.
13:06 And so learning how to say no and learning how to refer,
13:09 you know, there's enough business out there
13:10 for everybody.
13:12 So it's not like we have to hoard and just think that,
13:14 you know, if I don't get this patient,
13:15 I don't get this business and I'll get this,
13:17 you know, this deal is everything's gonna fade away.
13:20 Just let go.
13:21 And just be at peace
13:23 with knowing it's okay to say no.
13:25 And it's okay to just to walk away
13:27 because all money is not good money
13:28 because sometimes people will approach you and just say,
13:30 I got this great deal.
13:31 We're gonna make a whole lot of money.
13:33 It's like, for me, it's not about that.
13:34 It's about doing what my purpose
13:36 is and operating in passion and in love, you know?
13:39 And so it takes a lot for me to,
13:41 you know, I usually start off my morning
13:43 before I even get out of the bed,
13:44 just saying, thank you.
13:46 Thank you, Lord.
13:47 And in that grateful state of mind,
13:48 just saying, thank you.
13:50 And then once I get up,
13:51 you know, I drink a lot of water.
13:52 I make sure that I'm hydrated throughout the day,
13:54 because I would say,
13:55 there's a great percentage of individuals
13:57 who come into hospitals or go into urgent cares
13:59 and something's wrong,
14:01 and it's because they're dehydrated.
14:03 We don't take the time out to drink enough water.
14:06 Yes, that happened to me. Yeah.
14:07 Not to interrupt you. No, it's okay.
14:09 I was just running, running, running, and running.
14:11 But what it was, I was dehydrated,
14:14 but I had walking pneumonia.
14:16 So what happened when I got home,
14:18 my oldest daughter was home visiting.
14:20 No, she was on the phone.
14:22 And I was like...
14:24 She said, "Mommy, that's not a regular cough."
14:26 I said, "I'm fine." Aaron was home.
14:29 And I said, "I'll be fine, just need some rest."
14:31 The next morning,
14:33 I could barely crawl out of bed.
14:34 I said, "Aaron, Aaron,"'
14:37 cause my lung was collapsing.
14:39 And I said,
14:41 "You have to drive me to the hospital now."
14:43 They said, "If I had waited one more hour,"
14:46 it would have been over.
14:47 And we just, you know,
14:49 I'm drinking more water, exercising.
14:51 Absolutely. Let's talk about stress.
14:54 Your life is busy. My life is busy.
14:56 Setting boundaries, limitations.
14:58 Absolutely.
14:59 What does stress do to us as human beings
15:02 and how it leads to anxiety, depression, suicide?
15:05 Sure.
15:07 So, stress pretty much
15:08 is one of the number one causes
15:10 of any type of disease.
15:14 Because we don't, as you said, we don't set boundaries.
15:17 We don't know how to say no.
15:18 And we need to make sure that we're taking care of self.
15:21 Just like when you get on an airplane,
15:23 they always tell you to put your mask on first.
15:25 So if you're not taking care of yourself,
15:28 spiritually, mentally, emotionally,
15:31 physically, and financially, guess what?
15:34 You're gonna be stressed out
15:35 because if one of those components
15:37 are disconnected to the others,
15:40 it's gonna cause stress in some form of fashion.
15:42 Yes.
15:43 You know, if you're worried about something,
15:44 it's gonna impact everything else.
15:46 If your finances are off,
15:47 it's going to impact everything else.
15:49 If your mental wellbeing or your emotional wellbeing
15:51 and you're all over the place,
15:52 you're on a high one day and a low another day.
15:55 And then you have other people,
15:56 you know, who are in your lives,
15:57 you know, who are trying
15:59 to bring all their issues to you.
16:00 And if they're not paying you for what you do,
16:04 then that's the issue.
16:05 Because sometimes people will know,
16:07 oh, she's a good listener.
16:08 She's always given good advice, but I'm looking up
16:10 and I'm spending two or three hours with this person
16:12 two or three times a week.
16:13 And I'm just like, wait a minute.
16:15 Something's wrong with this picture?
16:16 And so we have to push back a little bit,
16:17 learn how to say no
16:19 and not cause
16:20 any self-inflicted stress upon ourselves.
16:23 I remember when,
16:25 again, going back to palliative care.
16:27 Yes.
16:28 I had to literally stop my practice
16:30 because Arthur, I had to be there.
16:33 I slept at the hospital.
16:34 One time I slept at one hospital.
16:37 The first time, eight days,
16:40 the next hospital, it was 12 days.
16:42 I said, "Can I go home?"
16:45 And he was like, "Go get your clothes."
16:47 And then one of his relatives came, stayed.
16:50 I showered, went back and he said,
16:52 "Did you bring everything you need?"
16:54 And let me tell you what I did.
16:57 One day he was feeling pretty good.
16:58 And someone came to sit with him
17:01 and the phone rang
17:04 and it was one of my patients and was in terrible crisis.
17:08 I said, I can't come to my office
17:10 and shame on me
17:12 because again, being in the will of God,
17:15 you know, I had her come to the hospital
17:19 to do her session.
17:21 And I said, "No more. I have to focus in on Arthur."
17:26 That's right.
17:27 "I have to focus in on my self-care."
17:29 And do you know, even sitting there
17:31 reading to him, talking with him,
17:33 watching him sleep,
17:35 making sure he was good, wiping his face
17:38 and washing his face.
17:40 But who was taking care of you?
17:41 That's the whole point. Who was taking care of you?
17:43 So even in those situations,
17:45 you know, I'll use an example of a mother
17:48 and I would tell people, you know what?
17:49 If one mother can give birth to 10 children,
17:52 surely 10 children can help
17:54 and rotate and taking care of that one mother.
17:57 And sometimes we want to be there for everything.
18:00 And we have to remember,
18:03 I have to get a good night's sleep.
18:05 And just lying in one of those recliner chairs
18:07 for days in and days out are not good for you.
18:10 It's not good for your back
18:12 because now your back is hurting.
18:13 And when you're in pain, you project differently,
18:16 you act differently, you think differently
18:18 because you're thinking about that one little pain
18:20 while you're trying to be focused.
18:22 And it's just very hard to do both.
18:23 And as he felt better, all my church family,
18:27 The City Temple Seventh-day Adventist Church,
18:29 my pastor, people would come,
18:31 Kim, go eat, take a moment,
18:33 go home, take a few hours.
18:35 That's who took care of me?
18:37 My church family, because my daughters were away.
18:39 And so when my daughters came home
18:43 and they said, "Mom, go home and get some rest."
18:46 And even when we brought him home,
18:49 they had the hospital bed and everything,
18:51 in one of the rooms
18:52 and we have a huge chair and Arthur was determined.
18:56 He loved that chair.
18:57 He wanted to sit up in that chair.
18:59 He said, "Just one more time."
19:01 That day was Saturday, the Sabbath.
19:04 I went to church,
19:05 his nieces were there at the home
19:08 and he was sitting up and he said to me,
19:11 "Why? Why, Kim?"
19:13 And I said,
19:14 "I can't tell you why Arthur,
19:16 but I know God has a plan.
19:18 He is in control."
19:19 And he sat there
19:21 and I went into the family room
19:23 and I sat there not knowing a few hours
19:24 he would pass away early that morning.
19:27 And I went back in and I said, "Do you want to lay back down?"
19:31 He said, "No, I just want to sit here."
19:32 I mean, talking and just looking out the window.
19:36 And I said that it's gonna be all right, Arthur.
19:39 So he had a burst of energy?
19:41 He had that burst as they talk about in hospice.
19:43 My mother had that, my father had that,
19:46 but seeing him, but my daughters came in,
19:49 "Mommy, rest."
19:50 But it was like, he would look and he would call for me.
19:54 And the girl said, "Mommy, daddy wants you."
19:57 And I said, "I'm right here. I'm right here."
19:59 And I think, you know what I told God?
20:00 I said,
20:02 "God, if you are going to do this
20:04 and you're going to take my husband,
20:06 because this is in Your hands,
20:08 I said, You are God's Supreme.
20:09 I'm asking you one thing,
20:12 could you please let me be with him,
20:13 not at the grocery store, not out running an errand,
20:16 not out getting something out of the car,
20:19 not in the bathroom.
20:20 Let me be with him."
20:22 And the Lord said, "I'm gonna do that for you."
20:25 I felt it.
20:26 And all of us was around him.
20:28 Micah was on FaceTime
20:30 and we were all there with him,
20:33 his children, his godson.
20:35 I was there holding his hand and I said, "Sleep."
20:38 And he said,
20:40 "Now, do you remember what I told you?"
20:41 And I said, "What?"
20:43 He said, "Don't mess up. I'll see you when Jesus come."
20:46 And he said,
20:48 "You are not allowed to date or remarry."
20:50 And everyone started laughing.
20:51 He was still in that good state.
20:54 And then I looked at him.
20:55 I said, "Arthur, just sleep now, just sleep."
20:59 And I kissed him.
21:00 And while I was kissing him
21:05 and my baby, Aaron,
21:07 she just said, "Daddy, daddy."
21:10 And I said, "Daddy's gone."
21:12 So they took care of me.
21:15 And I recognized that
21:17 I had to take a moment and step back.
21:19 And even during the whole process,
21:22 after he passed, there's so much involved.
21:25 You're just moving so quickly. Absolutely.
21:28 And you don't even have a time to...
21:29 I did grieving.
21:31 No, because you're taking care of all the,
21:34 the whole process,
21:35 all the application of the services,
21:39 making sure this is done right, that is done right.
21:42 But I still had a support system.
21:44 I wasn't even gonna try, you know what I did?
21:47 I hired an event coordinator, Joanne Fuller,
21:50 one of my sisters of my church.
21:52 She does events.
21:53 And I said, "I need you
21:54 to handle the entire funeral service,
21:57 the entire repass, be in everything,
22:00 pick up the programs.
22:02 I knew to step back and focus on my children and I.
22:06 Because I felt the stress, I felt the anxiety
22:10 and I felt the depression
22:12 because that first day him not being there.
22:16 And so I was able to say, I know now how to step back.
22:21 I know now through this, how to say no.
22:24 Let's talk about time management.
22:27 People need to understand
22:29 how to use their time management
22:31 and understand the importance
22:33 because you see it in the hospital.
22:34 Absolutely.
22:35 Let's talk about that?
22:37 So, I do believe that you have to have a schedule,
22:39 you know, and again, setting boundaries
22:42 comes with that whole piece of managing your time.
22:46 There's only 24 hours in a day.
22:47 You have to sleep, you have to eat.
22:50 And so sometimes, you know,
22:51 you have to put those things in your calendars,
22:53 it's time to eat, it's time to take my medication
22:55 depending on what your lifestyle is.
22:57 And so it's really important to say,
22:59 I'm only gonna see a certain amount of patients today.
23:01 I'm only gonna see,
23:03 do a certain amount of activities
23:05 because sometimes you'll get invites in your inbox.
23:07 You know, you look up and you're invited to say,
23:08 you have three events that you are supposed to attend today
23:10 or six events that you're supposed
23:12 to support tomorrow.
23:13 It's like, wait a minute.
23:14 Did I commit to all this?
23:16 Yes.
23:17 And so, managing your time
23:18 and not letting time manage you.
23:21 Can you say that again?
23:22 Absolutely.
23:24 Learning to manage your time
23:25 and not allowing time to manage you.
23:27 I love it. Love it.
23:28 Absolutely.
23:30 So, in every situation, you know,
23:31 this, this can be, you know, regarding time management,
23:33 stress, whatever.
23:35 I have a saying,
23:36 "Is this going to mess me up or bless me?"
23:40 Real simple. Real simple.
23:42 What I'm putting into my temple,
23:43 what I'm eating when it's time to eat,
23:44 is this going to bless me up or mess me up?
23:47 Now, we're both vegans.
23:49 Absolutely. Yes, you know.
23:50 What was your determining factor
23:52 of becoming a vegan?
23:53 Why? Well, you know what?
23:55 Years ago I was diagnosed with sarcoidosis
23:58 and that's a disease of the pulmonary system.
24:01 And it affects different people in different ways,
24:03 but it affected my pulmonary system.
24:05 And so in order for me to heal myself,
24:09 because I do believe that God gives us everything
24:11 that we need to heal ourselves.
24:12 Sometimes we don't want to acknowledge it,
24:14 but we have it.
24:15 And so I had to make a conscious decision
24:17 and my son is a health enthusiast.
24:20 And so he sat me down one day and he says,
24:21 "Mom, you know, you've got to eliminate
24:24 a lot of this stuff out of your diet
24:25 in order for you to be totally well."
24:27 And he says,
24:29 "And we're not gonna have this conversation again,
24:30 when you're ready."
24:31 He says, "I'm not talking to you as a mother,
24:33 I'm talking to you as a patient,
24:34 as someone that I love
24:35 and you're coming to me for help."
24:37 And so it took me a few years.
24:38 So I started eliminating things,
24:40 you know, out of my diet.
24:41 I had already eliminated the pork,
24:42 I had already eliminated the steak,
24:44 but the hardest thing for me was the seafood
24:45 'cause I love seafood, mainly salmon.
24:47 And so, once I made that conscious decision,
24:50 had already eliminated the milk products.
24:52 And I said to myself, you know, I want to live long,
24:56 but I don't wanna just live long.
24:57 I wanna feel good. I wanna live to be well.
24:59 Live to be well. I wanna live to be well.
25:01 And so I made a conscious decision
25:03 to begin to eliminate some other things.
25:05 And so when we were over in Kenya last year,
25:08 we lived with a family and they were all vegans,
25:11 they grew everything.
25:12 And so they said,
25:14 "You can't bring any meat in my home."
25:15 You can't, you know, they had a lot of stipulations
25:17 about what could take place.
25:18 And I said, "You know what?
25:20 This is a good time,
25:21 you know, for me to completely
25:22 make this commitment to myself."
25:25 And I tell you, since I've made that commitment,
25:27 my life has just changed.
25:28 I mean, I just, I feel vibrant.
25:31 I mean, I feel like I can go out
25:33 and conquer the world.
25:34 You know, it's just an amazing feeling for me
25:37 of spiritually, mentally, emotionally, and physically.
25:40 Live to be well. I live to be well every day.
25:42 When I was diagnosed with breast cancer
25:45 and my oncologist said,
25:47 when he came back for my follow-up,
25:49 he said, because I'm not using sugar.
25:52 Now let me say this.
25:54 I was sitting in the corridor
25:55 when Arthur was taken in on April 28th,
25:59 when he called me, he said, "I'm not feeling well."
26:01 I was in church that Saturday came home.
26:04 I said, "Well, let's go to the hospital."
26:06 Took him, we were there till after midnight.
26:09 And from that point I was sitting there
26:12 and I know it was a spirit of the Lord.
26:14 I need you to become a vegan.
26:16 And I was like, I'm not the one sick,
26:20 not knowing two and a half years later,
26:23 I would be diagnosed with breast cancer.
26:25 And the doctors told me,
26:27 because again, it affects everybody differently,
26:30 but because I removed
26:31 so many things out of my diet,
26:33 he said, you are going to be totally healed,
26:36 you're safe
26:37 because you've changed your diet.
26:40 And so I praise the Lord.
26:42 We have a short time left.
26:44 Let's talk about live to be well?
26:46 Live to be well. Live to be well.
26:48 So how do we do that?
26:49 Yeah.
26:50 So, you know, making sure
26:52 that you're taking good care of yourself.
26:53 Yes. You know, taking time out for yourself.
26:55 Yes.
26:56 You know, being the best version of yourself,
26:57 loving yourself more than you love anybody else
27:00 after God, you love myself.
27:02 You love yourself.
27:03 'Cause the Bible says, love thy neighbor as thyself.
27:06 So, I can't love my neighbor unless I love myself.
27:08 Absolutely. Right.
27:09 Absolutely.
27:11 And so you have to remind yourself every day,
27:12 you know, by looking in the mirror
27:13 and telling yourself
27:15 today is gonna be a wonderful day,
27:16 better than it was yesterday,
27:17 but not as great it's gonna be tomorrow.
27:19 I'm gonna love myself today more than I did yesterday,
27:22 but not as much as I'm gonna love myself tomorrow.
27:24 I'm gonna take care of myself today
27:26 more than I did yesterday,
27:28 but not as much as I'm gonna take care of myself tomorrow.
27:31 So when we put all those things in place,
27:33 we can begin to live well because that's of God.
27:37 That's of God's.
27:38 Sickness and disease is not of God.
27:39 No, it's not.
27:41 And living to be well is of God.
27:43 I wanna thank Dr. Portia for being here.
27:45 You are beautiful.
27:46 You are my girlfriend, my sister in Christ.
27:50 I'm so proud of you earning a doctorate degree.
27:52 It's all God. May God continue to use you.
27:55 Yes, it is God.
27:56 It is important for us to live to be well.
27:58 How do we do that?
28:00 God first, taking care of yourself,
28:02 setting boundaries
28:04 and remembering that God is our everything.
28:07 I'm Dr. Kim, God bless.


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