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00:04 and exceeds expectations. 00:06 My name is Jason Bradley, 00:07 and you are watching Urban Report. 00:32 Hello and welcome to Urban Report. 00:34 My guest today is Eric Camarillo, 00:36 President of SALT Outreach Ministries. 00:38 Welcome to Urban Report, Eric. 00:42 Hey, Jason, I'm happy to be here. 00:44 Yes, it's great to have you here. 00:46 Clearly you are no stranger 00:47 to 3ABN's Dare to Dream Network at all. 00:50 You have been here, you know, on several occasions 00:53 and I have been impressed with how God has been leading 00:57 and providing in your ministry, 01:00 and I'm looking forward to diving into that 01:03 and hearing all the miracle stories 01:05 that have been taking place, 01:06 but before we do why don't you just tell us a little bit about 01:09 you, your background and what SALT stands for? 01:14 Yeah, so my name is Eric Camarillo. 01:18 I do have a background as far as my education, 01:22 I got social work a bachelor's degree 01:24 and got my master's in non-profit management, 01:27 and I'm the president of SALT Outreach. 01:30 SALT is an acronym for, Service and Love Together. 01:33 We right now have a mobile day service center for the homeless 01:37 or also referred to as a mobile dropping center 01:40 for the homeless, where we provide 01:42 basic needs to them that includes 01:45 shower through a shower trailer, 01:46 clothing and hygiene product 01:48 through a clothing trailer, haircuts, food 01:52 and other resource and services through our partners. 01:56 Nice, nice. 01:57 So you said shower trailer, and you said clothing trailer. 02:02 I remember you coming on the program 02:04 and you were talking about your need 02:06 for a clothing trailer, a change trailer 02:08 and for a shower trailer and you have it. 02:13 Yeah I will say that honestly 02:17 that shower trailer right there 02:20 was $40,000 we had to raise, 02:22 and if it wasn't for 3ABN and Dare to Dream viewers, 02:26 we might not have been able to raise it. 02:28 I mean just between the viewers on this show we raised little 02:32 over $20,000 from the people that watch this show. 02:35 Wow! And that supports this mission. 02:38 And so, if you know and like I always like to say 02:43 when it comes to helping the homeless, you know, 02:45 a lot of people don't know where to start or what to do. 02:48 You know, a lot of people don't feel comfortable 02:50 giving money directly to those experiencing homelessness, 02:52 but supporting organizations like us 02:55 that provide those direct services to them 02:57 is one great way to support those people 03:00 that are unsheltered right now. 03:03 Yes, yes. 03:04 Now I know, the last time you were, well, I say here, 03:09 but the last time you were on Skype, 03:11 my mother interviewed you and you were telling her 03:15 what was going on the ministry and all of that. 03:18 What are some of the changes that have taken place 03:21 within the ministry since then? 03:24 Yeah, you know what? 03:25 There has been a lot, Jason, it's crazy, 03:29 it's been like night and day 03:30 and we can only give God the credit for that. 03:33 You know when Yvonne interviewed us, you know, 03:39 we had just gotten some initial funding 03:41 from the city of Orlando to operate 03:44 during the Coronavirus pandemic. 03:46 You know, a lot of the organizations 03:48 because they operate inside, 03:51 it wasn't safe for them to operate 03:53 and because many of those organizations 03:55 let's say provide food, 03:57 it wasn't safe for them to gather all of those people 04:00 in one place. 04:01 So us being outside doing things by appointment, 04:05 we were one of the only organizations 04:07 able to operate during the pandemic 04:09 when it first started because you could imagine 04:12 for someone experiencing homelessness 04:13 and everything shutting down, the businesses, 04:15 not being able to get food where they usually get food. 04:19 Not being able to go into different places 04:21 to get resources like a shower or even use the bathroom. 04:25 Yeah. 04:26 It really put them in a tough situations 04:28 and so the city was like, "Let's partner with SALT." 04:30 And we partnered together. 04:32 And they gave us initial funding 04:33 to operate three days a week 04:35 during the pandemic. 04:37 And so, since then, you know, 04:40 we've been operating three days a week. 04:43 We just increased to four days a week, 04:45 and the city of Orlando approved a large grant for us, 04:50 $250,000 to cover us from October to September 04:55 of next year which is huge. 04:57 I mean, really, it's God's way of increasing our capacity 05:01 to serve even more people and do even more, 05:04 so that's exciting. 05:06 That is huge, so you got approved 05:09 for the grant for $250,000. 05:12 You're going to be able to accomplish so much 05:13 with that because all of that stuff cost money, right? 05:19 Getting stuff like a shower trailer. 05:21 What are some of the other things 05:23 that you are looking to do 05:26 that you need to garner support for? 05:30 Yeah. 05:31 And, you know, you're right, when it comes to, 05:34 I was just looking at like last year, 05:37 the beginning of last year we were operating once a month 05:39 maybe impacting 60 to 80 people a month through our operation, 05:45 but now operating four days a week, I mean, 05:47 our impact is almost quintupled from that time last year. 05:52 So definitely the extra funds 05:55 are helping us to make a bigger impact. 05:57 We are hiring, we just hired actually 06:00 a licensed clinical social worker 06:02 who is going help to do case management 06:04 for some of those experiencing homelessness they have, 06:07 you know, mental health issues. 06:10 We are hiring another master's level social worker 06:13 as well to help with case management, 06:14 and we are going to be taking four bachelor level interns 06:20 from the local universities to be able to help 06:23 with case management as well. 06:24 So we can really kind of connect them to the resources. 06:28 You know, once they get those basic needs 06:30 from us connecting them to other organizations 06:32 that can help with those other needs 06:34 that they might have eventually to end homelessness. 06:37 You know, because here in Orlando 06:39 there is a coordinated community effort, 06:41 you know like we might do 06:43 one aspect of serving the homeless 06:45 but then there might be another organization 06:46 does another aspect, 06:47 another organization that does another, 06:49 and we all kind of coordinate our efforts 06:51 to really impact that individual. 06:56 So that's one thing and the other thing too 06:58 is we actually just made a down payment 07:00 on a laundry trailer. 07:02 It's going to have six washers and six dryers to help meet 07:05 that laundry needs that we, that the homeless have. 07:08 Wow. 07:09 That's huge, so a laundry trailer, 07:12 that is huge. 07:15 So you are establishing partnerships, 07:17 you are building partnerships. 07:19 Have any companies helped support 07:22 what you have going on with SALT? 07:26 Yeah. 07:27 So we did have, you know, the city of Orlando, of course, 07:33 was a big entity that's supporting us, 07:37 then we have Orlando Utility Commission 07:40 who donated solar panels to us. 07:42 I mentioned that in Yvonne's interview 07:44 that's been huge to help us cut down 07:46 on that energy cost and that sort of thing. 07:51 We did also have the Hilton support us. 07:54 During the pandemic they helped house 07:57 some of our workers that were working 07:59 and they didn't want to go directly home for the risk of, 08:04 you know, if they did have 08:06 something passing on to their family, 08:07 they are able to go to a hotel room shower 08:09 and get changed and then go home. 08:12 But, yeah, we've had, I mean, many different organizations 08:17 and businesses really contribute 08:19 to this mission in different ways, 08:22 you know, providing food. 08:23 There's organization's named Food not Bombs 08:26 that does vegan food 08:27 for those experiencing homelessness. 08:30 You know, another organization, the Islamic Society of Orlando 08:35 is helping to provide food as well. 08:38 The Christian Service Center which is an organization 08:42 that we are kind of based right now. 08:44 They are also providing lunch every, you know, 08:47 around 12 every day at that site to help support 08:51 what's happening there. 08:53 So it's been exciting to seek 08:55 kind of all this different entities 08:57 from all this different backgrounds 08:58 and organizations come together for the same purpose, you know, 09:03 to be able to meet those needs, to fulfill, you know, 09:05 Matthew 25, right? 09:07 "'I was hungry and you gave me food, 09:08 thirsty and you gave a drink, naked and you gave me clothes. 09:11 I needed a shelter and you took me in.'' 09:13 I mean that's... 09:14 Yeah, I believe it's referring to those experiencing 09:16 homelessness in those verses, you know, 09:19 definitely the help is needed. 09:21 Yes, yes. 09:23 So, man, so you have all these partnerships coming about 09:26 and it creates extra witnessing opportunities as well, right? 09:31 Talk to us little bit about being able to witness. 09:34 I mean, you already doing the practical Christianity, 09:38 you know, Christ method alone. 09:40 But talk to us about some of the witnessing opportunities 09:43 that you have had? 09:45 Yeah. 09:46 I know we're going to be going through the pictures later, 09:50 but that, that was kind of like a, 09:54 really like a prime example 09:55 of what we're trying to accomplish. 09:57 You know, being able to meet those needs and share Christ 10:01 you know, while we're meeting those needs is a huge part of, 10:05 you know, what we're trying to do. 10:06 I know that we just have a partnership 10:09 with a local Adventist Church, 10:10 Lighthouse Community Seventh-day Adventist Church, 10:13 and they actually have a box truck 10:16 that they retrofitted to be a mobile stage. 10:19 And so, they'll actually bring church out there 10:22 to those experiencing homelessness, 10:24 to be able to meet some of those steps, 10:27 that spiritual need that fellowship need 10:29 that they have because a lot of them 10:31 did go to church, but when the church is closed, 10:33 they weren't able to do that. 10:36 They couldn't go online 10:37 and even experience online church. 10:39 You know what I mean? 10:41 So this was something that, 10:42 that was crucial that they missed a lot. 10:44 I mean, the smiles on their faces 10:46 definitely spoke for themselves when we were able to do that. 10:50 And then obviously, you know, we as, 10:54 and I hear from our staff all the time, 10:55 there are those that just need prayer, you know, 10:58 that we're going to pray for. 11:00 And we're actually looking to hire a part-time chaplain, 11:04 calling them a chaplain, that's going to be onsite 11:06 to help meet that spiritual need 11:09 for those experiencing homelessness as well. 11:11 So that's a project that we're actually trying 11:13 to raise money for as well to kind of be there 11:16 for them in that, in that way. 11:19 So that's something that's, that's been working. 11:21 And then there's Patrick, which I'll talk about later, 11:23 I guess when we go through the pictures that story. 11:27 Yeah. You have so much going on. 11:30 One of the things that I'm curious about is, 11:32 how do you pick the location where you're going to take 11:37 the shower trailer 11:38 or where you're going to take the change trailer? 11:41 Like how do you, how do you find that location? 11:45 That's a good question. 11:47 So we used to, we used to kind of go to different areas 11:52 where we felt and one of the crucial things 11:58 I think about a drop-in center in general 12:00 for the homeless is, is, you know, 12:03 being able to meet those basic needs. 12:05 But when you're a mobile like us, 12:07 we can actually meet the homeless where they are. 12:09 And one of the purposes is to engage as many people 12:12 as possible to create those relationships 12:14 and build that trust, to then refer them 12:17 to other organizations to help end homelessness. 12:21 So, you know, we definitely want 12:22 to meet them where they are. 12:24 And so that's what we've been doing. 12:25 We try to pick locations where we feel 12:29 that they are going to be most comfortable 12:32 going to, and currently, you know, 12:36 we just for about a month now, we've been operating 12:39 at the Christian Service Center in Orlando, because that's, 12:43 that's something that's been in the community for ages. 12:45 You know, those that are, 12:48 that are experiencing homelessness, 12:49 they know where that location is. 12:51 I mean, the homeless, the coalition for the homeless 12:55 that has a shelter is maybe two or three blocks away. 12:59 So it's, it's, you know, it's a place 13:01 that they're familiar with that they're comfortable 13:03 with that, you know, 13:05 and that's crucial in being able 13:06 to provide these services and build that trust. 13:08 So that's how we picked that location. 13:12 Okay, good to know, good to know. 13:14 We do have several pictures and so I'd like to start 13:18 putting the first one up now, 13:21 and then you tell us a little bit about 13:22 what's going on in each one of these? 13:25 Yeah. I'm going to share a testimony. 13:28 It's about our friend, Patrick, 13:30 that's him right there holding the door open. 13:32 He's kind of, you know, guiding some volunteers 13:35 that are volunteering there on how to clean the bathrooms. 13:38 He came to us back in, it was late 2018, early 2019, 13:45 and he just came to us to receive a shower, you know, 13:48 and to get his needs met. 13:49 And so, you know, we got to know him a little bit, 13:53 and he was so grateful at being able to receive these services 13:57 that he started to clean the bathrooms 13:59 after each person that showered and used the bathroom. 14:02 And as a volunteer, I mean, he didn't expect 14:05 anything in return. 14:06 So that's just a picture of him volunteering with us. 14:11 If we go to the next shot here. 14:14 That's, this is him working with us as an employee. 14:18 So when we decided to hire people back in March, 14:23 you know, he was one of the first people 14:25 we decided to hire. 14:26 I mean, he's been with us and volunteering with us 14:28 for over a year at that point. 14:29 And he was good at what he did. 14:31 He was a hard worker, so we hired him. 14:33 And at the same time as we hired him, 14:35 we helped to get them off the street as well. 14:37 So he was in a place with AC and a bed 14:39 and, you know, he was comfortable. 14:42 And so that's a picture of him 14:44 and our homeless outreach director, 14:46 Kathy, they just took a picture there after outreach. 14:50 And so, he was a huge asset to our operation 14:53 and helping us to run during Coronavirus. 14:58 The next picture here. 15:01 So what ended up happening is... 15:07 So Pat, he started to limp 15:11 and it was back in about late June. 15:15 He started to limp, you know, people are noticing, 15:17 seemed like he was losing weight. 15:20 And he didn't really know what it was. 15:23 And we didn't, we kind of were urging him to go 15:26 and get it checked out and go to the hospital. 15:29 And finally, in early July he did end up 15:32 going to the hospital. 15:35 And you know, while we all thought 15:37 it was some kind of like pinched nerve or something, 15:40 and, even him, thought it was something like that. 15:43 We find out that he has stage IV lung cancer. 15:47 Oh, man. 15:48 That had metastasized and spread to his hip, 15:51 and that's why he was limping. 15:54 And so the doctors told us, 15:56 one of our outreach workers, Carlos, 15:58 was with him in the hospital 15:59 and he wept when he heard the diagnosis. 16:01 You know, Carlos did. 16:08 And it caught us off guard. 16:09 It caught all of us off guard. 16:11 And he only, he only had a few weeks to live 16:16 is what the doctor said after that. 16:17 And he didn't want to. 16:19 Pat, you know, he's stubborn, 16:21 you know, he didn't want to stay in the hospital. 16:24 He wanted to leave because he wanted 16:26 to say goodbye to people. 16:27 And with the Coronavirus restrictions with visitors, 16:30 he knew that he wouldn't be able to do that. 16:32 You know, he want to spend his last days 16:34 with the people that loved him and thepeople he loved. 16:37 And so that picture where he's in the bed 16:41 that's after he left the hospital. 16:43 We had gotten him a place kind of closer 16:46 to where the people he knows is, 16:49 you know, closer to downtown. 16:52 And that was us kind of with him. 16:54 He actually in that picture 16:56 that was right after his baptism. 16:59 One of his last requests was to be baptized. 17:02 And prior to this, it wasn't just a spontaneous thing 17:05 when he first got shelter with us, 17:08 when he first had a roof over his head 17:11 and a bed, he started to do morning devotionals. 17:13 And so, when you look at his Facebook, 17:16 you can see his little morning devotionals 17:18 that he'll post up on Facebook. 17:20 And he started to spend that time with God. 17:23 You know, and obviously, we would always 17:25 kind of emphasize that aspect that, 17:29 that spiritual aspect with him 17:30 and talk with him and about those things. 17:32 And so, you know, one of his last requests 17:36 was to be baptized 17:38 and since he couldn't move too much, 17:39 he was baptized in the bathtub of that hotel. 17:43 Wow! The pastor came and did that. 17:47 And so, the next picture that we have is about a week 17:52 after that he was moved to hospice. 17:56 That's my wife there sitting with him. 17:59 We both visited, we both went to go visit him 18:02 as soon as he got moved into hospice. 18:04 And you know, there wasn't, 18:07 there definitely wasn't much time left. 18:09 He was on morphine to help ease the pain 18:11 and the pain was like unbearable for him. 18:15 And, you know, we were there 18:17 and we spent some time with him, 18:19 spent a few hours with him and just talking with him 18:22 and, you know, we prayed with him 18:26 and, you know, the next day one of our... 18:31 Her name's Paula Meadow, one of our board members 18:33 and our HR director went to go visit him. 18:37 And as, when she got there, he was unresponsive 18:41 and he ended up passing away while she was holding his hand. 18:48 But, you know, I mentioned the story 18:50 because this is an example of what we want to see 18:56 with everyone that we serve. 18:57 You know, we want to be able to meet 18:59 that need to help get them off the streets 19:01 so they can, they can have a place. 19:03 You know, it's hard, 19:04 when you're living on the street, 19:06 it's hard to be consistent with anything, 19:09 you know, even reading the Bible 19:12 or, you know, it's just, it's hard, 19:15 you know, when someone has that roof over their head 19:19 and they have a bed to sleep in, 19:20 and they're comfortable. 19:22 Now that opens new doors, 19:23 you know, I feel like that spiritual door is more open. 19:27 You know what I'm saying? 19:28 And so, when we're able to meet those basic needs 19:32 and when we're able to then emphasize 19:34 that spiritual component and when it leads to baptism 19:39 and they're able to get off the street 19:41 and they're working, you know, like him, 19:43 he was working with us. 19:45 You know, it's life-changing. 19:47 And we want to see that with every single person we serve. 19:50 And so we're going to create a program in his memory. 19:54 You know, we did an actual memorial service for him 19:56 after he passed. 19:58 I have a picture of that, 19:59 that flyer that we put out on social media. 20:02 Invite all the volunteers and his friends, family, 20:07 you know, and, yeah, it was definitely, 20:12 really emotional, very hard for all of us. 20:14 I believe it. 20:16 Yeah, but he was, you know, he's awesome. 20:19 And I'm happy that in heaven we'll be able to see him again. 20:24 Yes. 20:25 When Jesus comes back, it's going to be so sweet. 20:28 When Jesus comes back to get us, 20:31 that will be incredible. 20:33 Yes. 20:34 It sounds like Pat made a huge, 20:37 you had a huge impact on his life 20:41 and he had a huge impact on your life 20:44 and the lives of others as well. 20:46 That's huge. 20:47 And that's what it's all about is leading people to Christ 20:51 and that practical Christianity. 20:53 And I think that SALT really embodies that. 20:56 Like, I think that you guys, 20:58 as an organization really embodies that 21:01 because you're meeting tangible needs that people have, 21:05 and also witnessing to them. 21:08 And that's powerful. 21:09 I'm so glad that he got baptized, 21:11 you know, prior to his passing. 21:14 Yeah, yeah. 21:16 It was just an awesome day with him that day. 21:22 And, yeah, he definitely did make an impact in our lives. 21:25 We'll always remember him. 21:28 So, yeah. Yes. 21:30 And I know that we have a few more pictures, 21:33 so we'll start going through those. 21:35 I want you to tell us what's going on in these. 21:37 Yeah, so, this is, I want to share this picture 21:40 because this is our staff. 21:42 You saw Cathy, our homeless outreach director 21:43 in the middle there, with the sunglasses is Oscar, 21:47 he's our homeless outreach coordinator. 21:50 And then the other three, 21:51 there are Carlos, Paula, and Natalia. 21:55 They are our homeless outreach assistance. 21:58 They all kind of specialize in different areas like Carlos, 22:01 he cuts hair. 22:02 Paula helps with video. And she was there on the right. 22:06 And then on the left, there is Natalia. 22:08 She helps with data entry. Oh, wow. 22:12 You have to do a lot of data entry 22:14 to track our impact. 22:15 So, but yeah, it's been, they've been a huge blessing. 22:17 They've been on the front lines four days a week 22:20 on serving those, you know, 22:22 that are experiencing homelessness 22:23 and really being, being those people to show 22:25 that love that Christ has for them 22:28 just in person, you know, and that's exciting. 22:30 For sure. Yeah. 22:32 It seems like there's a lot of positions 22:33 that are required for this ministry 22:36 and organization to run? 22:40 Yeah. Yeah. Oh, yeah, for sure. 22:42 Yeah, I mean, it's, I mean, I, even me, I, 22:46 you know, I'm mostly work a lot remote now. 22:50 I mean, there's a lot that happens in the background 22:53 that I have to do. 22:54 The homeless outreach director goes both onsite and offsite, 22:58 does some things in the background as well. 23:00 A lot of meetings have to happen, 23:01 lot of fundraising efforts that need to be done. 23:04 You know what I mean? Yes. 23:05 And it's, you know, putting reports together. 23:08 I mean, there's a lot in the background, 23:10 you know, I think when we think about the ministry 23:12 we just kind of think about that visual 23:17 of maybe someone giving someone something, 23:19 or giving, you know, handing out some food 23:21 or giving out some clothes. 23:23 But, you know, the ministry could also look like 23:26 someone's sitting on a computer. 23:27 Yes. 23:29 You know, and that'spart of, you know, 23:31 what needs to happen to, to keep this running, so. 23:34 Absolutely. Everybody has a part to play. 23:37 Yes. Right. 23:39 We have a few more pictures that I want us to get to, 23:42 because our time is running a little short. 23:44 What do we have here? 23:47 So, yeah, this is recent. 23:49 The mayor of Orlando actually gave us 23:51 a shout out on his Facebook. 23:54 And that right there, that, what he shared 23:57 is a recent news story from two weeks ago 24:00 of the $250,000 grant that was awarded to us 24:03 to continue serving for another year. 24:07 You know, and I just want to say, 24:09 you know, I think, you know, going to even just looking at 24:12 just a story here in the Bible, like Nehemiah, you know, 24:16 who was working for that king, 24:18 you know, that government, right? 24:20 And he had, he saw a gap in the community 24:25 and it encouraged him. 24:26 I mean, he, God had given him, 24:28 you know, he spent time in prayer. 24:29 It was four months from when he prayed 24:32 that initial prayer in Chapter 1. 24:34 And until Chapter 2, 24:36 when he actually asked the question, 24:38 you know, spent that time in prayer 24:39 and fasting and thinking about how to meet this need. 24:42 And then finally he decided to ask the king for support 24:45 and the king who didn't identify as, you know, 24:49 as the follower of the same God, 24:51 you know gave him all the resources 24:54 that he needed to be able to meet 24:56 that need for his people. 24:58 You know what I mean? 24:59 So I just want to encourage anyone that's looking, 25:03 to start something or, you know, 25:06 to make a change in the community. 25:08 You know, Jesus says, 25:10 "Ask, and it'll be given to you, 25:11 seek, and you will find, 25:12 knock and the door will be opened." 25:14 You know, and I truly believe that I think in fundraising, 25:17 you know, just in general you know, 25:20 one of the biggest balls that we drop in fundraising 25:23 is not asking the question, you know, 25:26 and that's a huge part, I just want to comment on. 25:29 Yeah. That's powerful. 25:31 Thank you for sharing that for sure. 25:33 We've got, I'd say about two and a half minutes left 25:37 and I want to know what are some of the needs 25:43 that your organization has currently? 25:46 Yeah, so as you can imagine, 25:50 you know, with increased funding 25:51 it comes increased operation, 25:53 but the increased operation comes increased costs, 25:56 you know, so we're where our annual budget 26:00 has now grown to about 400,000 a year. 26:04 And so, while the city of Orlando funding 26:06 does cover more than half of that, 26:09 we are still responsible for, you know, 26:12 raising another 150,000 for next year. 26:15 So that's something we're really working toward. 26:17 We don't want to decrease in services. 26:20 We want to increase our capacity 26:22 and expand our services 26:23 and meet even more needs in the community. 26:25 So we're going in faith, you know, 26:28 asking God to help meet that need. 26:30 Even our laundry trailer, 26:33 you know, we made a down payment, 26:34 but we still have about $10,000 to go 26:37 to raise the full amount needed for that trailer. 26:40 So it's another thing that we're really pushing for. 26:44 Well, we want to put up your address, 26:47 so that people know how they can get 26:48 in touch with you, 26:49 and if you would just read that to us. 26:52 Yeah. 26:53 So you can mail your tax-deductible donations 26:55 to 100 East Pine Street, Suite 110, 26:59 Orlando, Florida 32801. 27:03 Our phone number is (866) 237-2589, 27:08 or 866-BE SALTY. 27:12 And our website, saltoutreach.org, 27:14 and email address is team@saltoutreach.org. 27:18 Wonderful, wonderful. 27:20 Man, I can't believe our time is just about up, Eric. 27:25 Want to thank you for, you know, 27:27 what you're doing to reach the community for Christ, 27:30 what you're doing to really put on display 27:33 the practicality of the gospel, 27:35 and how you've been so willing to help those in need. 27:39 And thank you for coming on this program 27:41 and sharing today. 27:43 I hope that you at home will get involved 27:46 and support this wonderful ministry, 27:49 and you know what? 27:50 It just wouldn't be the same without you. 27:52 Join us next time. God bless. |
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