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Series Code: TDYFW
Program Code: TDYFW210035S
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00:02 I want to spend my life
00:08 Mending broken people 00:12 I want to spend my life 00:19 Removing pain 00:24 Lord, let my words 00:30 Heal a heart that hurts 00:35 I want to spend my life 00:40 Mending broken people 00:46 I want to spend my life 00:51 Mending broken people 01:09 Hello and just a great big old welcome to each and every one. 01:11 We're glad you join us for 3ABN Family Worship. 01:15 I tell you this, this is exciting subject 01:17 and I know you're going to be, 01:18 you're going to need a pencil and paper and a pen 01:20 and jot some of the things down that the Holy Spirit gives 01:23 each one of us and maybe in your mind too 01:25 of how to overcome the enemy. 01:27 I realize that's a subject that many people have covered 01:30 over and over. 01:31 But really I looked at it and I've kind 01:33 of put a star by it to say this is a very, 01:35 very important subject because every day 01:38 the enemy is out to kill, steal and what? 01:40 And destroy. 01:42 So by the grace of God, we're going to look in the Word 01:44 of God today, examine scripture line upon line, 01:47 precept upon precept. 01:48 And we're going to find out 01:50 how we can be more than conquerors 01:52 through Jesus Christ. 01:53 Praise the Lord. Good. 01:54 I need that every day in my life. 01:56 Maybe you do too. 01:57 And we're going to present that as the Holy Spirit 01:59 gives us utterance of the Word today. 02:00 Amen. 02:02 I'm glad to have my wife with me, 02:03 Chris, it's good to have you today right by my side. 02:05 I am glad to be here. 02:07 We always say all the time, you're my balancer. 02:08 You keep me balanced up all the time. 02:10 I get a little carried away and excited sometime 02:12 and she taps me or knees me or something like that, 02:14 so, you know. 02:16 Don't let him fool you. He does the same to me. 02:20 Yeah, I think I probably do at times. 02:22 Okay, I can do like this at times. 02:23 It doesn't do any good. 02:25 But we're glad that you're here today. 02:26 We've got some exciting people with us today. 02:27 Oh, I am happy. And so, yeah. 02:29 I'm very excited. 02:30 I know, you're so excited that I'm not even going to try 02:32 to introduce everyone. 02:33 I'm going to let you do it because you got some thoughts. 02:35 You got some things that you maybe in time, 02:37 maybe not now, but in the moment 02:39 you're going to, we're going to share some things 02:40 because we are excited about. 02:41 I don't want to call them guests, 02:43 I want to call them family. 02:44 They are family. We are family. 02:45 These are people we want to share eternity with. 02:49 We just want to do it. 02:50 We want to just never be separation, no division, 02:53 just be together all the time. 02:54 It would be a wonderful time when we see Jesus. 02:56 That's right. 02:58 So let me just turn it over to you and you just do 03:00 what you want to do. 03:01 I want to first say to those of you at home, 03:03 we want to spend eternity with you as well. 03:05 That's what this is all about. Yes. 03:07 So anyway, I'm very, very excited about our guests today. 03:11 I think for the first time on a Family Worship, 03:14 is this not correct? 03:15 We have Linda and EJ Clark or Eddie Clark. 03:19 In calling either one, I guess you answer by either one. 03:21 I answer by Chrissie or Chris or Christine or Christina, 03:25 so anyway. 03:26 I also call him cowboy, 03:28 so if someone must call him cowboy. 03:30 You answered, you answered honey. 03:32 That's true. Yeah, sweetheart. 03:34 Yes. Yes. I know I do that. 03:36 Anyway, I have known Linda for a few, 03:38 I don't even know how many years now 03:40 but she has been a blessing. 03:42 She is in the health ministry work and as a Master Herbalist 03:46 and we are so thankful that she has chosen 03:49 to move close here to 3ABN and to be in our area. 03:54 I tell you, 03:55 I wish they were ready to see patients because Eddie was just 03:58 kind of saying, "Boy, we haven't been here very long 04:01 and been keeping them busy." 04:02 But there's so many things that 04:05 and so many needs that we have in this area. 04:07 Amen. 04:09 In fact, I met another family yesterday that want 04:10 to meet you. 04:12 They may have gone by, but I think you may have 04:13 shut down early, which is good 04:14 because they're working in the cold right now. 04:16 Yes. And she needed to get out of that cold building. 04:20 But I know the Lord's going to warm it up soon. 04:23 And things are going to be much smoother. 04:25 We're excited to have you. 04:26 So, Edie, tell us a little bit about yourself 04:29 and maybe some of the things you like to do in your ministry 04:32 and then we'll let Linda. 04:33 Well, we were both born and raised in the church. 04:37 And in my later teenage years 04:40 I left and she stayed closer in the church than I did. 04:44 But we've both been married and divorced. 04:47 And coming up on 17 years ago, 04:51 will be when we got married. 04:54 And shortly after that we started her herbal business 04:58 and ministry. 04:59 So we've been doing that 15 or 16 years 05:02 and the Lord has been very gracious to take us to a number 05:06 of different places to witness with the health message. 05:09 We spent a little over a year and a half in Arkansas, 05:13 in northwest Arkansas doing ministry there. 05:16 Was very blessed, have some wonderful friends from there. 05:19 Amen. 05:20 And if any of them are watching, hello. 05:22 Well, I should mention too. 05:24 And a lot of people even in our church, 05:26 they know you by 3ABN Radio. 05:28 We have a Linda and Eddie Clark, 05:30 what is the name of that program? 05:32 It's about 15 minutes long. 05:34 Natural Remedies for Good Health. 05:36 Yes. So they know you by the sound. 05:38 And many of our folks at home 05:40 probably know you from seeing you. 05:41 We've been on 3ABN, you've been on the Today program. 05:45 And I know that you've also been at ASI 05:47 and probably the GC. 05:49 So there's probably a lot of people that say, 05:51 "I know them." 05:52 So that's neat. 05:54 We always tell people that going to ASI 05:57 is really our only vacation. 05:58 Yet we work so hard when we go to 3ABN. 06:01 But we meet people like you, and it's a high. 06:04 It's a high, we're on a high there. 06:06 We call it a working vacation. 06:07 We always come home so blessed. 06:09 Good. Praise the Lord. 06:11 We are looking for a blessing today. 06:12 And at the end of our table 06:15 is a very special precious couple that we love dearly. 06:19 We haven't got to see you. 06:20 We spend a whole lot of time. 06:22 I tell we had them over for dinner one night 06:24 and it was like a prayer meeting, wasn't it? 06:25 The Lord was so good. I think we did that. 06:28 So good. 06:29 And they've come to visit us over Behold the Lamb 06:31 a few times. 06:33 We love that. 06:34 But it's Angela and Ian, 06:36 and I'm going to look at this name 06:37 so I don't mess it up, Vandervalk. 06:38 There you go. Vandervalk. 06:40 Is that German? Dutch. 06:41 Dutch. Yeah. 06:42 Oh, how do you say it in Dutch? How would you? 06:44 Vandervalk. Vandervalk. 06:45 It's just the same in English. 06:47 I was thinking like with the Dutch accent. 06:50 No, no. That's funny. 06:53 But Angie and Ian both work here at 3ABN. 06:58 They're generally behind the scenes. 06:59 But I know by the grace of God that they're coming in front 07:03 of the camera more and more. 07:04 And we have a story to tell. 07:07 But I'm going to hold off to maybe question number one. 07:10 And see if we can, you know, kind of open that up 07:13 and unpack that a little bit. 07:15 Because it's such a blessing 07:17 what the Lord has done in your lives and is continuing to do. 07:21 And this is something defeating 07:23 the enemy that I know you guys realize that you have to do 07:26 each and every day, right? 07:28 Oh, absolutely. Amen. 07:29 So why don't you tell us just a little bit real quick. 07:31 What do you guys do? 07:32 Angie, let's start with you. What do you do here? 07:33 So I work at 3ABN, 07:35 and I usually run camera or do makeup. 07:38 Okay. And I love it. 07:39 It's a blessing. All right. 07:40 You're not making us look like clowns or anything. 07:42 No, no. She just kind of pad. 07:43 She kind of gets rid of the shine, a little bit. 07:45 Yes, that's right. Yeah. Pad the shine off a little bit. 07:47 I actually love it because she likes to come 07:49 and get all my frizzies down. 07:51 And I can say, okay, you've got about an hour. 07:55 Brother Ian, how about you? 07:57 Well, I started off here, running camera. 07:59 But now I'm a floor director. 08:00 And it's just such a blessing to be a part of this ministry 08:03 and just to work with everybody that comes through here. 08:06 It's amazing. 08:07 Amen, and I look forward to for you telling everybody 08:09 where you came from, 08:11 what you were doing for many years, 08:12 what you thought you'd continue to do, 08:14 but how you defeated that. 08:16 God had a different plan, didn't He? Amen. 08:17 Okay. 08:19 I think evangelist some time because every time I see 08:21 a Land Rover, I know it's for me. 08:26 But Angie. Angie, I tell you. 08:30 It's a blessing to be here today. 08:31 And we're going to be first of all, 08:33 we're going to get into the Word. 08:34 So we always we have to pray. Absolutely. 08:36 We pray before and we're going to pray during 08:38 and we're going to pray right now. 08:39 Brother Ian, we ask that you would offer a word of prayer, 08:43 please. Absolutely. Thank you. 08:44 Dear Heavenly Father, Lord, we just as always, 08:47 we thank You for this day, for the Sabbath day. 08:50 And we thank You for all the many blessings 08:52 that You have given each and every one of us. 08:54 There are so many things that we need 08:55 to be thankful for, things that we see 08:57 and even things that we don't see where You're at work, Lord. 09:00 And, Lord, we just ask that You, 09:03 we invite You here to be a part of this family worship, 09:05 we invite Your Holy Spirit to speak through us. 09:08 Remove ourselves from our speech, Lord. 09:11 We just want You to come in 09:12 to work through us because we know 09:14 that there are those, you know here, 09:16 where we need to hear what each person 09:18 is going to say that it may help us grow stronger in You 09:22 Father and help us see Your love 09:24 and Your mercy and Your grace. 09:25 Yes. 09:27 And, Lord, just be with this family worship 09:28 and we just love You. 09:30 We thank You and we praise You. 09:31 In Jesus' name, amen. Amen and amen. 09:34 So they know our subject already. 09:35 We're talking about how to overcome the enemy. 09:38 And so to me, that's just so important because every day 09:42 to me, it seems like it's Battle Royale. 09:45 You know, because the enemy is not just coming at us. 09:48 You know, like this, pestering us a little bit or challenge. 09:51 I mean he's doing as the Bible would say, 09:53 you know, a roaring lion. 09:54 We heard it since we were just small, roaring lion. 09:56 That means he wants to devour, he wants to finish us off, 09:59 and only by the grace of God 10:01 that we're still standing today. 10:02 Thank God for those angels of heaven, isn't that right? 10:05 Thank God for the protection 10:07 of every day because the enemy especially hates those 10:10 who are presenting what is true and present truth. 10:12 And so today this is recalled to me as old subject, 10:16 but it's still present truth. 10:18 Honey, I want you to read the first paragraph. 10:20 And then let's get into some questions 10:22 and whatever else you have on your little heart today, 10:24 because I think this is a very important paragraph in here 10:29 that will set the stage for what we want to talk about. 10:31 Okay, this is taken from Darkness Before Dawn 10:34 and it's on page five, paragraph one and it reads, 10:37 and many of you may have read it elsewhere as well. 10:40 The great controversy between Christ 10:43 and Satan that has been carried forward for nearly 6000 years. 10:48 This is what I thought was so important, 10:50 is soon to close 10:53 and the wicked one redoubles his efforts to defeat the work 10:57 of Christ in man's behalf 10:59 and to fasten souls in his snares, 11:02 to hold the people in darkness and impenitence. 11:06 Impenitence that means that they don't have any sorrow 11:11 or any regret for their sin. 11:13 So it, you know, without that repentance, 11:15 he wants to hold them there till the Savior's mediation 11:19 is ended, and there is no longer a sacrifice for sin 11:23 is the object which he seeks to accomplish. 11:27 So when you look at that the words that come out 11:30 until His mediation is done. 11:32 Can someone kind of explain a little bit about that, 11:35 till His mediation is done? 11:37 You know, what is Christ doing today? 11:39 Is He doing anything? 11:41 Or is He just saying, "I'm going to come back?" 11:43 Is He our mediator? 11:44 That's another subject in itself to get in, 11:46 to begin to unwrap that. 11:48 We give you 10 seconds, get started. 11:50 He is our mediator. Okay. 11:53 He's working in our behalf right now. 11:55 One day, what? 11:56 He's going to stand up, Revelation 15:8 11:57 and smoke fills the temple. 11:59 And that means it said, not another soul will ever come in. 12:01 So the enemy's trying to keep us busy 12:03 until I like the word probation closes. 12:06 I mean, that's, sometimes people get little apprehensive, 12:08 say, you know, only Adventist misunderstand that term. 12:11 No, a lot of people understand when probation has ended, 12:14 that you know, something, we're all on probation, 12:16 are we not in this life, you know, whether it's a lot, 12:18 a lot of years, or just a few years. 12:20 And one of these days Christ going to say it's ended. 12:24 So the devil then is trying to keep all of us busy. 12:27 Maybe a question would be even in good thing, 12:31 is it possible he can keep us busy, 12:32 even to some things, it's kind of good within, 12:35 not wrong to do but as long as he keeps us off track. 12:38 That's right. 12:39 He keeps us busy so we don't have time to study. 12:41 Exactly. 12:43 How do we have time with the Lord? 12:44 It's like, even in church, 12:45 when people like volunteer for so many things, 12:48 it's like, are you even having a relationship with God? 12:51 Oh, good. Okay. Yeah. 12:52 So I feel like and that goes for me too, 12:54 because I work so much. 12:56 Yes. And then I'm so tired. 12:57 I'm like, and then you go home, 12:59 you have to take care of the house, 13:00 take care of your children. 13:01 That's right. 13:03 And then I'm like, when do I have time for God? 13:04 I read a little devotional, but it's like, 13:06 is that really enough? 13:07 Like, I need more, I need more bread. 13:09 Amen. I need more food. 13:10 Good. 13:12 So I need to really pray about that in my own life. 13:14 So do we all. Yeah. 13:16 And that's actually part of the answer to number, 13:19 question number one, may I go ahead and read that? 13:21 Yeah, go ahead, and then we'd discuss, sure. 13:23 So why has Satan been so successful in confusing 13:25 so many people 13:27 and I just want to read this quote that goes right 13:28 along with you, because neglect of Bible study 13:32 and prayer is one of the ways that he confuses the minds 13:34 of the people. 13:36 And that is when we're too busy. 13:38 You know, I've been feeling that myself here lately. 13:41 And so he'll tell you Sunday. 13:42 That was one thing. 13:44 We haven't even had a Sunday off in weeks. 13:46 And I said, today I am spending time 13:49 and I spent several hours in study and prayer. 13:52 And I could feel the difference, praise God. 13:55 Amen. 13:56 But one thing that I read even on Sunday was Satan well knows 14:00 that all whom he can lead to neglect prayer 14:04 and searching of the scriptures will be overcome by his attack. 14:09 So if we are neglecting prayer 14:11 and we're neglecting our studies, 14:13 we're going to be overcome. So that is got to be vital. 14:17 It's got to be number one in our lives. 14:19 So how do we rearrange our schedules? 14:22 As Angela mentioned, we're so busy 14:25 and Satan wants to keep us busy to the point 14:28 where we don't personally study and I hear a number of people 14:31 frequently say, "Well, I listen on the radio 14:35 or I download sermons or I'm always listening." 14:38 Yeah. 14:40 But the personal one on one with the Lord 14:42 and our own personal Bibles. 14:44 That has to be paramount. 14:46 That's what sets the foundation. 14:48 And I want to add to that, 14:49 because I've been doing that a lot. 14:51 I listen to a lot. 14:52 You do learn a lot. 14:54 But I have noticed because I'm listening 14:58 so much that things are changing in my mind. 15:02 Well. 15:03 And so I had to get back and open the physical books, 15:06 open the physical Bible and begin to study again. 15:10 It doesn't take the place. 15:11 It's still good. Right. 15:13 It's still good. 15:14 It's still something, praise God for all the information 15:17 we've been given right now. 15:19 Amen. 15:20 You know, especially in the times that we're living in. 15:21 I just pray, 15:23 I pray for different ones that are standing up for truth. 15:25 Yes. 15:26 And, you know, praise God for these people. 15:28 And that's what He's calling all of us to do. 15:30 How do we keep, you know, 15:31 we're talking about a balance here, 15:33 because I feel like sometimes I'm out of balance with lot 15:36 of things, because so much is going on there. 15:39 Linda and Ian, you, everybody just throwing things here 15:41 because, you know, again, doing the work that we do, 15:45 and then I feel like, I can't neglect 15:48 the study of the Word of God, because we're always preparing 15:50 for something which is a real blessing. 15:53 If we are preparing that means we're in the Word. 15:55 We know we have things to get accomplished, 15:57 you know, down the road. 15:58 So we're studying, we're in the Word of God. 16:00 But then sometime, as I said, "Oh, and how do we do this, 16:02 there's only so many hours in the day." 16:05 And then you find yourself, you know, 16:06 getting up at 2 o'clock in the morning or 3 o'clock 16:09 or 4 and going 4-5 hours in study of God's Word, 16:12 and then go and do physical work all day. 16:15 And then, you know, we're separated. 16:17 So sometimes we find it, 16:18 I do, I find it difficult even in ministry. 16:22 I usually don't get to 16:23 and that's not trying to feel sorry. 16:25 It's just things I've tried to deal with over the years. 16:27 You know, I don't get to ride with her to church. 16:29 We have to take two vehicles. 16:31 I'm going one way, she's going another 16:32 pickup grandkids different thing. 16:33 I never get to sit with her basically unless someone else 16:37 and it's very rare, you know, we sit together during church. 16:40 We're going two different directions. 16:41 She's going to ministry lot of time, 16:42 I'm going other places and visit and then come night. 16:45 She knows she has to be back in the Word if we get home. 16:48 I've got to get back into the Word. 16:49 So we might do a little by supper. 16:52 And then back in the day and pretty soon I look 16:54 and she's already in bed. 16:55 She's already, you know, I mean, so just, 16:58 how do we balance that? 16:59 Well, the first thing that I wanted 17:02 to bring up was and this goes along with exactly 17:06 what we're talking about, and this comes from Patriarchs 17:08 and Prophets. 17:09 You know, there was somebody who we all know, 17:11 Eve who had the same issue. 17:14 And it goes along by saying here 17:15 that the angels had cautioned Eve to beware 17:17 of separating herself from her husband. 17:19 How many times when have we separated 17:21 ourselves from our bridegroom, from Jesus 17:23 when we get caught up with everything? 17:25 You know, we just open up that window for evil to, 17:28 kind of, you know, step in 17:29 and just leave that door cracked just enough, 17:31 and that's all he needs. 17:32 And it goes on to say though, 17:34 while occupied in their daily labor in the garden with him, 17:38 she would be in less danger from temptation 17:40 than if she were alone. 17:42 But it goes on to say, 17:43 but absorbed in her pleasing task, 17:46 she unconsciously wandered from his side. 17:49 So it's the same thing. 17:50 You know how we're all part of a ministry, 17:52 we're all trying to work for God, 17:53 but sometimes we can get so caught up in that, 17:56 that we lose that connection. 17:57 Even though it's a pleasing task, just as Eve had, 17:59 she had a pleasing task, 18:01 but we've lost sight of that connection. 18:03 She wandered away and we've wandered away, 18:04 even though we're doing something that's pleasing 18:06 and good for God. 18:07 Yeah. 18:09 I want to say, from my perspective, 18:11 even though we may not sit together, 18:14 not that I would switch that 18:15 because there's probably nobody with him. 18:19 I mean, they're on camera, I used to be directing. 18:21 And there he doesn't have a bigger amen corner. 18:24 Well, maybe one or two other ladies like puts in competition 18:28 and they're cheering, but I'm still with him, 18:31 you know, in spirit. 18:32 Oh, absolutely. Yeah, that's true. 18:34 So there is a little bit of a difference in that perspective. 18:36 And, you know, I still find 18:39 even if we're in two different rooms, 18:41 studying or whatever, 18:42 I still find comfort that he's in the house, period. 18:44 Yes. Amen. 18:46 You know, so but we try, we try to sneak. 18:48 You said that just the other day, didn't you? 18:49 I did say that. 18:51 Yeah, she said the other day, 'cause I said, and she said, 18:52 "Well, you need to spend more time to study?" 18:54 And then she would be gone. 18:55 Okay, she's gonna leave me some day. 18:56 Do some work, you know and I said, "Well, honey, 18:59 I said, you're going out there to study. 19:01 You are going to be there two or three or four hours. 19:02 I won't see you anyway. 19:04 Or I'm going to be down here preparing for something, 19:05 I won't see anyway. 19:07 So if I just slip out and go do some other things, 19:08 and then come back. 19:10 It'll be comforting to know that you're in the house. 19:12 Well, I did not quite like that. 19:14 Did you win? I did win that win. 19:17 It's true though. Thank you, Ian. 19:19 Yeah. 19:20 Now then, before we get too far into this, 19:23 I want to throw it back to Ian and to Angie, 19:26 because back in I think maybe September, 19:29 was it September possibly or maybe just about October? 19:32 October. October of 2019. 19:34 We met them in Georgia. 19:36 And there was a process of defeating the enemy. 19:40 I know that a lot of the viewers 19:42 have seen you on other programs. 19:44 But this is the first time that we have been together. 19:48 And when we first met you, 19:50 things were not as they are now. 19:52 Amen. Not as they are now. 19:54 So I want to throw this ball back over to you 19:57 and we'll jump in every now 19:59 and again because I know some of it. 20:01 But I want to hear it from you guys. 20:03 You guys tell us how did we meet you? 20:06 Well, that's a long story, but we'll try to make it short. 20:10 Go ahead. It's a blessing. 20:11 Oh, absolutely. 20:13 We should have made this a two part. 20:14 Yeah. It needs to be. 20:15 Yeah. 20:17 But you know my wife was at the time 20:18 she was in the church 20:20 and she was very much a part of God 20:22 and loving Jesus. 20:25 Me, not so much. 20:27 You know, I was in the army at the time. 20:28 And I think I'd been serving what 11, 20:31 I think was about 10 or 11 years at that point. 20:34 And, but God was not a part of my life 20:38 as much as my beautiful wife here tried 20:42 to show me God's love. 20:43 And she prayed for me for so many years. 20:46 I mean, 11 years, I think 20:47 is what it was that she prayed for me. 20:49 And there are so many difficult times in our marriage. 20:51 And, but, yeah, when we met you, 20:54 it was a critical moment in my life, 20:56 because there was a lot happening. 20:58 And I was going downwards. 21:00 I mean, I was talking to somebody yesterday, 21:03 it was pretty much the Nebuchadnezzar effect, 21:05 you know, I was hitting rock bottom. 21:07 And it was really tough. 21:09 But my wife kept praying for me 21:11 and she had me come to an evangelistic series 21:14 that Pastor Kenny, 21:15 that you were conducting at a small church 21:17 just right down the road from us. 21:19 And, you know, previous to that I had slowly been, 21:23 you know, putting, getting my foot in the door at church 21:25 and I was a little more attentive. 21:27 You know, that's a whole another story in its own. 21:29 But how we met you guys was at that church. 21:32 And that was a pivotal moment, 21:33 because I know that the Lord was using you, 21:36 Pastor Kenny, in a way that other preachers, 21:40 other pastors, other people could not reach me. 21:42 There was something in that moment. 21:44 Praise God. 21:46 And I just, I remember specifically that when you 21:48 asked for, you know, you gave an appeal at the end of it. 21:51 And you know, that if anybody wanted to change their life 21:54 and they wanted to feel that love of Christ, 21:56 you know, just to stand up. 21:58 In that moment, I couldn't do it. 22:00 Because all I could hear was, how horrible of a person I am. 22:04 And the things I've done in my past 22:06 and what I've done in the army and, 22:08 you know, what I've done, you know, to my wife. 22:11 Yes. 22:14 So I know the Lord used you for sure. 22:16 Praise God. Amen. 22:17 And it was just... 22:18 That first night, I couldn't stand up, not that first night. 22:21 But when I explained to my wife what had happened, 22:24 she knew I was in that spiritual battle. 22:26 We decided we'd come see you again. 22:28 And we did the following night. 22:30 And that's when I made that decision 22:33 where I wasn't going to listen to what Satan 22:35 was trying to tell me. 22:37 Amen. Because he was trying to keep me down. 22:38 He was, he didn't want me to overcome. 22:41 He wanted me to stay where I was at 22:43 and that was staying away from God 22:45 and believing that I'm not worth it. 22:47 And, you know, but I didn't let him have that victory. 22:50 And I chose to stay on that day. 22:51 And that's when, you know, my entire life changed. 22:54 And I thank my wife, I thank for all the people 22:57 who have stuck with me and I thank you, 22:59 Pastor Kenny, for allowing God to use you 23:01 because it changed my life. 23:03 And it was several nights, and on the Sabbath, 23:07 our very last Sabbath. 23:09 Yep. 23:10 We had been told and there was some 23:13 communication difficulties because this was a community, 23:16 a Korean church. 23:18 And we had been told that there was another church 23:20 that was going to allow us to baptize. 23:22 So we had a few people ready for baptism. 23:24 And while we were thinking we were ready for that, 23:28 you and pastor began to talk 23:29 while the rest of us were eating 23:31 and they were in their own world for several hours. 23:34 Oh, we were. Yeah. 23:36 It was about two, two and half hours. 23:38 Yeah. Standing in the hall. 23:40 I remember that, like he's wasting his time. 23:42 We didn't know anybody was coming and going. 23:44 And he really, truly, 23:47 because you shortened this a lot, 23:49 because I know that they continued to work 23:52 night after night in the struggles. 23:54 It fits exactly what we're talking about. 23:57 One of the ways that he does, 23:58 he works with all diligence to control the minds 24:01 of the worshipers. 24:03 He was working with all diligence 24:05 because he doesn't mind it as long as we sit there 24:08 and we're nonchalant, nothing's really happening. 24:10 But when a soul begins to say, "What must I do to be saved?" 24:14 When he begins to say, 24:15 "You know, maybe that is a better life." 24:17 And he knew he was leading, losing you. 24:21 He began to work harder and you were really struggling. 24:24 And that's what this program is all about. 24:27 How he, how to defeat the enemy, 24:30 how we can stop this confusion. 24:32 And what would you say to people? 24:34 I know you said you came back a second night, 24:36 but what happened in your mind that made you say, 24:39 "Okay, this is enough, I'm breaking that tie." 24:42 You know, my... 24:44 I actually talked to my wife about this recently. 24:47 And this is kind of difficult for me to say so forgive me. 24:50 But for the majority of my life, 24:53 I always felt like I wasn't good enough. 24:55 And it was, I can take that all the way back to my childhood. 24:59 And there were just pivotal moments in my life 25:01 where things had happened. 25:03 And I just never felt good enough. 25:04 I always felt, you know, I couldn't achieve 25:07 or and then especially when it came to God 25:10 and everything that I had done, I mean, I was a drinker, 25:12 I was a smoker. 25:13 I had done drugs, 25:15 you know, I did some terrible things in our marriage. 25:18 And, you know, how could God love a person like that? 25:21 And so all my life, I just felt like, how am I, 25:24 I'll never be good enough. 25:25 And that's what I kept hearing those nights, 25:28 you know, at your evangelistic series, 25:30 just, you're never going to be good enough. 25:32 You can't do it. And, but it was, it was a fight. 25:35 It was really a struggle. 25:37 It wasn't just a mental, I mean, it was physical. 25:39 There was everything was trying to... 25:41 You felt that pressure that Satan used to keep you down. 25:45 I remember the moments that I wanted 25:46 to make that commitment, 25:48 I could feel a pressure on my chest. 25:50 Yes. 25:52 And almost as if I couldn't, you know, 25:53 I could breathe, but it was much more shallow than normal. 25:58 You know, my legs seem to get heavy, 26:00 the palms start to sweat. 26:01 Yeah. Everything was coming after me. 26:03 And then with, I really, I can sit here as clear as day 26:07 and tell you that I would hear, "You're not good enough. 26:10 Look at what you've done. 26:11 Look at who you've hurt and the people that you love 26:14 who you've hurt." 26:15 Yes. But it got to that moment where it just... 26:18 I mean, it had to be Holy Spirit driven. 26:20 Amen. You heard the voice of God. 26:22 And Pastor Kenny kept calling you. 26:24 Oh, yeah. 26:26 Yeah, Pastor Kenny. 26:27 I know God was working 'cause you stalled and stalled. 26:29 You were just, it's like you're just pulling him in. 26:32 It was a miracle. 26:34 It was, I still remember clear as day, 26:36 you walking up and down the aisle and saying, 26:39 "I know that there's somebody here who hasn't done it yet." 26:42 And I don't know if maybe you saw 26:44 the look in my face those couple of nights. 26:45 And you just knew that I was going through that struggle. 26:47 Maybe you did, maybe didn't. 26:49 But the fact is, I knew that the Lord was working on you 26:52 and just buying me time. 26:54 He was just by me because I can honestly tell you right now 26:57 that if I didn't change my life that day, 27:00 if I didn't make that commitment that day, 27:02 I probably wouldn't be sitting here in front of you right now. 27:04 This is a two-hander. Amen. 27:06 This is, Angie, pastor says you leave, 27:08 put one hand down to my knee. 27:09 Amen. Amen. 27:11 Because that is what this is all about. Yes. 27:14 Mrs. White talks about plucking a soul out of the fire. 27:17 And that's what was happening. 27:19 The devil was putting the pressure, 27:20 his angels were holding you down. 27:22 But God was saying, He was giving you the strength. 27:25 And I know you had to have heard Him speaking too, 27:27 perhaps through an audible voice, 27:29 but it was the Spirit of God speaking. 27:31 Absolutely. 27:32 I know, the Lord was working through Pastor Kenny, 27:34 because like I said, he just keep buying time and saying, 27:36 "I know there's somebody." 27:39 And eventually, you know, God just gave me that strength 27:42 to stand up and make that commitment. 27:43 And from that moment on we spoke, 27:45 you know, on Sabbath. 27:47 Yes. 27:48 And I don't know if you remember, 27:49 but I was still a smoker at the time. 27:51 Yes, I did. 27:52 And the pastor of the church that we were going to, 27:55 he didn't want to baptize us because I was still smoking. 27:59 But that was a blessing in disguise too. 28:01 Because I think God was testing me a little bit. 28:04 He wanted to see how committed I really am. 28:06 Because I know a lot of times when we're, 28:08 when we get into something, into trouble, 28:11 what's the first thing that any of us do, even non-Christians? 28:14 God help me. Yes. 28:15 You cry out to God, "God, you know, just get me through this. 28:18 And I promise I'll change." 28:20 You know, and I can't even tell you 28:21 how many times that I had done that. 28:23 And I think this time He wanted to know, 28:25 "Okay, you know, okay, Ian. 28:27 Are you really committed to Me?" That's it. 28:29 Amen. 28:31 And so I quit smoking and I quit everything. 28:32 Praise God. 28:33 And, you know, doesn't mean the attacks don't stop. 28:35 But this time I have God in my heart. 28:37 Amen. And things are little easier now. 28:39 Amen. Amen. 28:40 You know like Sister Linda, that some of the things 28:41 that we've been talking about how to overcome the enemy. 28:43 And he's explained it so well. 28:45 Amen. Tremendous battle, right? 28:48 When the person changes their life 28:50 and turns it over to Christ. 28:52 That's when the enemy really, 28:54 when you're making that decision, 28:55 that's when he was sitting on your chest if I might say. 28:57 Oh, yeah. He was getting into your mind. 29:00 And, you know, and then this is how it's done by committing 29:03 ourselves to Jesus Christ. 29:05 You know, in your experience, you work with a lot of people. 29:08 And you see, they come for one thing, 29:10 but I know you guys give them a little something else. 29:13 How do you do that? 29:16 We just influence them with prayer. 29:18 Yes. And we encourage them. 29:20 Amen. 29:22 Because when it comes to diet, 29:23 particularly I talk to people about their diet 29:25 and lifestyle all day long. 29:28 They have to be encouraged. 29:29 A lot of times, things that people need 29:30 to give up are things that they already know. 29:33 They just need the encouragement. 29:35 They need prayer. 29:36 And every person I speak with, 29:38 we always end into it with prayer. 29:41 And most the time at the end, 29:43 when their struggles you can always hear 29:45 the tears in the background. 29:47 Yeah. 29:48 We're living in perilous times 29:49 and people are so incredibly sick. 29:51 See, what you're bringing out is to me 29:52 is exciting because some people just they don't get it. 29:54 And I'm slow a lot of things, I'm just, 29:57 I'm slow on and I need to learn and relearn. 30:00 But our lesson really brings out. 30:01 Again the enemy is trying to put off us 30:04 making that decision. 30:05 And one of the way he does it 30:07 is by benumbing our senses through appetite. 30:11 Right. 30:13 So if he can get us to, you know, 30:14 continue to do some of the things 30:16 maybe we did in the world, it's very difficult for us 30:18 to make spiritual decisions because 1 Corinthians says, 30:21 "Spiritual things are spiritually discerned." 30:25 So, you know, that's a battle I'm sure you see 30:27 all the time because people 30:28 who are coming maybe say it nicely, 30:30 maybe abuse the body and sometimes the thinking 30:33 is very more difficult. 30:36 And I think we've all abused our body from time to time. 30:38 Oh, yes, yes. And we all need that encouragement. 30:41 Yes. 30:42 But by prayer, we get the Lord's help. 30:46 All things are possible to those who believe, 30:49 and we spend time with God in prayer we can overcome. 30:52 We can be overcomers in everything. Yeah. 30:54 Maybe this is backtrack a little bit, 30:56 but how is appetite a snare of the enemy? 31:00 Well, the enemy has a pit for everyone to fall into, 31:06 and that's exactly where he found me is in a pit. 31:10 Matter of fact that's how come 31:12 we changed into the health field 31:13 because of my own illness. 31:16 And I knew when I got sick 31:18 that I knew that I was at fault. 31:21 So I went to the Lord, saying, 31:23 "Lord, I realized that I'm here, 31:25 I realized that I have violated the laws of health and, 31:31 but I don't know how to get from here 31:32 to where I need to be. 31:34 So you're going to have to meet me where I'm at." 31:35 And He is so gracious 31:36 and He meets everyone where they're at. 31:39 Amen. That's right. 31:40 We actually talked to a lot of people 31:42 that go through exactly what you did. 31:45 But it's through their diet because so many people, 31:48 they, they look at their diet and they say to themselves, 31:51 "I can't change that." 31:54 My taste buds, the way I'm built, 31:56 the, you know, the things my body craves 32:00 and so many people 32:02 that she counsels ministers too, 32:06 they come from the exact same place, 32:08 it's just from the perspective of diet. 32:10 I mean this is so real, 32:13 you know, just two weeks ago, 32:15 missing things is part of the family through marriage, 32:18 blah-blah, whatever else. 32:19 And I'm very familiar with him and with his brother 32:23 and his brother would say, 32:24 he had a problem with diet and you know, 32:26 thing he'd take, he liked to eat 32:28 and his brother would always say, 32:30 "I tell you I'm afraid for my brother. 32:31 I'm afraid, he always said, 32:33 he's going to eat himself to death." 32:34 And you're thinking, well eat yourself to death, 32:35 what do you mean? 32:37 He can't control his appetite, blah-blah. 32:39 And so this went on for years and a couple of weeks ago, 32:43 he left a little note, 32:44 as he killed himself that he can't, 32:47 he can't, he can no longer get out of his chair, 32:50 he can't go to the restaurants and eat like he wants to eat. 32:53 Now, it brings tears to your eyes, you think about it. 32:56 And he couldn't eat and do what he was used 32:58 to doing for so many years, 33:00 that it kind of destroyed his mind and his thinking. 33:02 He said, "If I can't do those things, 33:04 if I can't do what, I'm just going to kill myself." 33:06 And he did. How sad. 33:08 You know, we're seeing more addictive behavior. 33:12 As time goes on, sin becomes more prevalent in the world. 33:15 And also, the vitality of man is getting less and less. 33:19 Yes. 33:21 And addictive behavior is everywhere. 33:22 My little brother, he died as an alcoholic as well. 33:26 And I remember we had sent him to one 33:28 of those institutions to, 33:30 so that he could get cleaned out and get a fresh start. 33:33 And they gave each person that came there a cup 33:36 to put up at the top 33:38 and if they were cleaned for a whole year, 33:39 then you can come back and claim that cup. 33:42 And the walls were just lined with cups 33:45 of people that had not come back to claim their cup. 33:47 But my little brother says, "Mom, I am going to be coming, 33:51 going back to collect that cup." 33:54 He was not one that came back to collect the cup. 33:57 But he died in the Lord and of that I'm very happy, 34:00 but I understand the devastation 34:02 when you cannot trust your own promises to the Lord. 34:07 You feel like they're like ropes of sand. 34:09 You can't get from here to there. 34:10 You can't. 34:12 You don't even know where to start the first step. 34:14 And so I see that, I hear that on the phone. 34:16 And the Lord is so gracious 34:19 and He helps us make that first step. 34:20 Sometimes we need outside help. 34:23 But the Lord is so gracious to help us 34:25 make that first step, if we can make that first step. 34:27 Actually, He's already made that first step 34:29 but if we can join Him. 34:31 So it takes more than good intentions. 34:34 Yes. 34:36 I talk to a lot of people who have good intentions 34:37 were going to do it, but he had good intentions. 34:40 I believe when he said, I'm going to go back 34:42 and get that cup. 34:43 Yes. I believe he meant that at the time. 34:45 He did. 34:46 But circumstances as the enemy, you know, 34:48 begin to continue to work and he'll put it off one day 34:51 and then put it off a week and two weeks there. 34:53 You know, we live in a time where we're at the end. 34:57 We don't have maybe those weeks and months 34:59 and years that we think we had to fool around 35:01 if I might say. 35:03 We need to have more than good intentions is to like you stand 35:06 and just simply say, "God, by Your grace, 35:08 by Your strength, I'm going to follow You." 35:11 And the Lord expects us to copartner with Him. 35:13 That's true. 35:14 We have a part to play when people call 35:16 and they just want one pill shot to heal 35:19 a whole myriad of things. 35:22 You know, I remind them that, you know, 35:23 let's look at your diet here. 35:25 You know what other things that we need to do as well. 35:28 And so we have to copartner with the Lord in every aspect 35:31 of our life. 35:33 You've already said it but say it again. 35:34 Appetite will affect our thinking. 35:37 Is that true? Yes. 35:39 Simply put. 35:40 Yes, our lifestyle, diet and lifestyle. 35:42 Okay. Absolutely. 35:43 The Bible says, "Whatsoever you eat, 35:47 whatsoever you drink..." 35:48 That's right. 35:50 Paul was very specific about those two items. 35:52 And then he adds, "Whatsoever you do, 35:55 do all to the glory of God." 35:56 And so that's one of the things that we always tell people 35:59 when we do seminars, 36:00 it's not salvation by diet not at all, but Jesus said, 36:05 "If you love Me, keep My commandments." 36:07 Yes. 36:08 And one of His commands has to do with our diet 36:11 and our health, whatsoever we eat whatsoever we drink. 36:14 Amen. Helps us defeat the enemy. 36:16 Okay. 36:17 Pastor Kenny, I realize this is taking just 36:18 a little bit different direction, 36:20 but one of my doubts that I had is we decide 36:24 who influences our thinking, who, by how we spend our time. 36:29 I know when my husband I first got married 36:31 and I know this is not, this is something that really 36:33 touches everybody because we've all done this 36:35 and that is watching television. 36:38 Do you remember when we were younger? 36:41 We had, you know, we heard a lot about subliminals. 36:45 And now we don't hear about it so much. 36:47 But if when we were younger, 36:49 we heard about all these subliminal, 36:51 subliminal messages coming through television that we, 36:56 you know, we thought well that was conspiracy theories 36:59 way back then, but if it was true back then, 37:02 what do you think is going on now? 37:03 Okay. 37:05 What are we seeing now or not seeing it, 37:07 but we're subjecting ourselves to these influences 37:10 without even knowing it. 37:11 Amen. And that to me is scary. 37:14 My husband and I when we first married, 37:16 we watched every night, we watched this program 37:19 and we do reruns three hours. 37:21 We didn't realize how much time we were wasting 37:24 until we didn't do it anymore. 37:26 We felt definitely impressed to give it up 37:29 and then once we gave it up, we're like, wow, 37:32 where do we have the time to spend 37:33 all that time on television. 37:37 It's crazy. 37:38 When I was a little girl, one time, 37:40 we, my father and my sisters 37:42 and I were arguing over a TV program 37:45 and my dad got angry and he came in and picked up 37:48 the TV and took it out off the back porch 37:50 and threw it out in the field. 37:52 And we were like, wow. 37:54 And after he was gone, we went and plugged it in 37:56 and it still worked. 37:59 You know, I think what we're doing here 38:01 is bringing this home. 38:02 Yes. 38:03 Because the more we begin to study how he does this, 38:06 how he confuses people, 38:08 you'll find that the enemy is in everything. 38:10 He is in everything. 38:12 You begin to study about food and how it's manufactured. 38:16 Some of it shouldn't even be considered food, 38:18 but they actually study what to put in, 38:21 how much to put in to make you addicted to those products. 38:25 And so I feel like 38:26 the enemy has had his hand in every aspect. 38:29 Very much so. 38:30 There's other things that we kind of talked about 38:32 false teachers in the churches, 38:33 how he can misrepresent people. 38:38 You know, there's a lot of people that come 38:39 to the church and he works through to misrepresent 38:42 and to falsely accuse other people. 38:44 All these things are tactics to keep us from being saved, 38:49 and to keep us on his side. 38:52 Perversion of God's Word. 38:53 We are really, really, really experiencing that 38:58 and the time in which we're living. 38:59 In fact, you've got all of these different Bible 39:02 translations now. 39:03 But if you notice, they may sound the same in a lot 39:07 of places but there's some key issues especially 39:10 when it points out who and what the beast power 39:12 is and overcoming sin that have been changed. 39:15 Mercy. And it's not by the grace of God. 39:18 So we want to stick to like the King James Version 39:21 and I think next to that might be the New King James Version 39:24 to find out what truth 39:26 is because those are the closest to the written, 39:29 the original written document. 39:30 So there's so much going on. 39:34 So let's look into question number two. 39:36 How may we establish 39:38 what is true with all this confusion? 39:41 It's important. Amen. 39:42 And all these things and people they're picking up, 39:43 they think they're reading the right thing 39:45 and it's leading them astray spiritually. 39:47 Yes. How can we know what is truth? 39:49 How can we establish that? 39:52 God's Word is the truth. 39:53 Jesus says in John 14:6, "I am the Way, 39:56 the Truth and the Life." 39:58 Amen. So the word is alive. 40:00 You just have to pick it up, and read it. 40:03 That's right. 40:04 I think we started that in the beginning 40:06 towards the end that you just have to pick it up. 40:08 It's alive. It really is. 40:10 There's a key there though because a lot of people study 40:13 the Bible just to look for ways to get around things 40:16 or to make their own point, to twist it to say 40:19 what they want it to say, but what I have studied 40:23 and what we have all experienced here at this table 40:26 is we need to study the Bible with a humble 40:30 and a teachable heart and mind. 40:33 Amen. Not my will but Thy will be done. 40:37 Amen. 40:38 We need to open it up because the Bible 40:39 is a two-edged sword just as Christ said, 40:41 "It's going to cut, it's going to separate, 40:43 it's going to divide." 40:44 My dad, my stepdad used to say if we don't allow Him to cut 40:47 the dross off now, someday it'll be burned off. 40:52 So what God is doing through His Word is He's recreating us. 40:56 And sometimes it's a little difficult and we have to learn 41:00 to allow the Bible to... 41:04 What's the word I'm looking for? 41:05 The Bible to interpret itself, here a little, 41:08 there a little, line upon line, precept upon precept. 41:11 And we need to learn to do studies, 41:13 because sometimes we can just read through 41:16 some of the stories and we think now, 41:18 Lord, what did that have to do with my salvation 41:20 or my walk with You? 41:22 Now, there's a lot of times you may go back later 41:25 after you've done some studies and say, 41:26 "Oh, I get it, because they went through that. 41:30 I understand that because that may be a trial 41:33 that I may go through 41:35 and You're teaching me to stand." 41:37 So it's beginning to learn to hear His voice in all 41:40 of the Word because the whole Word points to Jesus. 41:43 That's it. 41:44 If a man wants to know what's truth, 41:47 if his will is to know the truth and what John 7:17, 41:51 you know, God's going to make that truth known to them. 41:53 So first we have to want to know what is truth. 41:56 Amen. 41:57 Not try to study to try to defend some kind 41:59 of a position that you have on something. 42:02 But when I open the Word of God, I really, 42:04 I want to know, what is truth? 42:07 Because truth is that which what John 7:17, 42:12 Thy word is truth, in 17... 42:14 Sanctify them through Thy truth Thy Word is true. 42:18 So sanctification or preparation from heaven 42:20 comes by knowing what is true. 42:22 So I understand it's not by twisting and, you know, 42:26 trying to make truth a lie 42:27 but then I'll make it to heaven. 42:29 It's by knowing what really is truth that changes my insides. 42:34 In Psalm 42:36 119:151-152. 42:41 This goes along with what Chris was saying in regard 42:43 to precept upon precept, line upon line. 42:45 Yes, yes. 42:47 It says, "Thou art near, O Lord, 42:49 and all thy commandments are truth. 42:52 Concerning thy testimonies, 42:53 I have known of old that thou hast founded them forever." 42:58 Something that's really popular nowadays is, 43:01 well, that was biblical truth back then, 43:04 you know, and whenever back then was 43:05 that's when back then was, but today what the Bible 43:09 is meaning is. 43:11 And so, and, of course, people do it with Sister 43:14 White's writings as well. 43:15 Yeah. 43:16 But when God speaks through His testimonies, 43:18 through His prophets... 43:20 Amen. It stands forever. 43:21 I love it. 43:23 I think what he's saying is that now 43:25 people are taking opinions of people over the Bible, 43:30 over the Spirit of Prophecy 43:31 and we need to test everything according to the Bible. 43:34 We need to test things according 43:35 to the Spirit of Prophecy. 43:37 Amen. And that's where you find that in Isaiah 8:20? 43:40 Yes. To the law and what? 43:41 To the law and testimony. 43:43 Go ahead, to the law and testimony, and they speak what? 43:44 I'll say right here. 43:46 If they do not speak according to this word 43:47 is because there's no light in them. 43:49 How much light? None. 43:50 None. No. 43:52 Somehow we think eight or nine out of 10 is good enough. 43:54 Most people say, well, they're saying some truth. 43:56 If you're listening to something, 43:58 I'm gonna say it right now, if you're listening 43:59 to something that there's error in it, 44:01 you're listening to what the devil has to say. 44:04 Soon as we detect what is error, 44:07 it's time for us not to listen to it anymore. 44:10 Not to go listen to it... Amen. 44:12 Because the enemy is involved with it. 44:14 God doesn't want us to do that. 44:15 Jesus, how important it was, Matthew was it, 20 something? 44:19 Matthew 22:29, Jesus said, 44:21 "You do err in not knowing 44:24 the Scripture because they're the power of God." 44:26 Amen. Sometimes the church lacks power. 44:28 We lack power in our own life because we err in Scripture. 44:32 Yep. Amen. 44:33 And if we, you know, study to show ourselves 44:35 approved unto God, He's going to do great things. 44:36 You know, speaking of, sorry, Chris. 44:37 No, go ahead. 44:39 Speaking of the opinions of man, 44:40 wouldn't that also include science? 44:42 Oh, absolutely. 44:43 Haven't we glorified science to the point that you know, 44:47 we have science on this side and science on that side 44:50 and that's why people are confused, 44:51 is there everything is science for them. 44:53 Science just hasn't caught up to the Bible yet. 44:55 There you go. 44:57 Science needs to agree with the Bible, 44:59 once we understand where the Bible came from. 45:01 You know, 2 Peter 1:21 tells us 45:03 the Bible came from holy men as God spake 45:08 and they were moved by the Holy Spirit. 45:10 So who is the ultimate scientist here? 45:13 Right. It is God. 45:14 Amen. 45:16 And so when we're dealing with science, 45:17 just like anything else in our lives, 45:18 it needs to fit the Bible. 45:21 It needs to live up to the light of the Word of God. 45:24 If it doesn't, then there's no truth in that either. 45:27 Amen. 45:28 You know, so we need to, I know years 45:30 ago because there's so many good books out there 45:33 that a person could read, 45:35 but most of the time between he and I, 45:38 it's just the Bible and the Spirit of Prophecy. 45:41 It doesn't mean we don't look at other good books. 45:43 Linda has a good book on health. 45:45 I just shared that with someone a few weeks ago. 45:48 But we have to focus mostly upon 45:52 what we know that the Holy Spirit 45:54 is behind and what He wrote. 45:55 And in part of the answer to this question, 45:57 the Lord took me to Proverbs Chapter 2. 45:59 And you can find a lot of things in Proverbs Chapter 2. 46:02 But I just want to just kind of maybe glean just a few 46:06 of the aspects of Proverbs 2:1-11. 46:09 It says, "Receive my words, hide my commandments with you." 46:13 I'm just kind of, proof, you know, going over it quickly. 46:18 Verse 2, "Incline thine ear unto wisdom, 46:21 apply thine heart to understanding." 46:24 So God is giving us direction. 46:26 He's telling us, "You want understanding? 46:28 Here it is. 46:29 Apply your heart to it, and I'm going to give it to you." 46:32 Hide my commandments in your heart and in your mind, 46:35 as the Bible talks about. 46:37 Amen. 46:38 "Yea, if thou criest after knowledge," 46:40 you want to know what knowledge is, 46:41 "and liftest up thy voice for understanding." 46:46 Where do we find it? We find it again in the Word of God. 46:49 "If thou seekest her as silver," 46:52 would it be searching the Bible for those gems, 46:55 those precious, expensive gems of truth, 46:59 "and searchest for her as for hid treasures." 47:02 Verse 5, "Then thou shalt understand 47:04 and fear the fear of the Lord." 47:07 You know, a lot of times we take that out of context 47:10 but it's reverence, it's respect. 47:13 Yes. 47:14 It's even knowing how He's gonna take care 47:16 of us in His love and in His mercy 47:17 and in His grace and find the knowledge of God. 47:21 Will we be able to understand God in all things? 47:23 No. He's beyond finite... 47:25 Yes, it's true. 47:26 That's what the Word says, "For the Lord giveth wisdom out 47:29 of His mouth cometh knowledge and understanding." 47:32 Where do we find that? 47:34 I mentioned when we moved up here, 47:35 you guys recently moved up here from Georgia. 47:38 When we moved up here, we had 65 acres, 47:42 we still have 65 acres in this home, 47:44 and I felt like 47:46 we had been preparing it for living off the grid, 47:50 so to speak, you know, not to the point 47:52 where it should be, but we were doing things 47:54 to do that. 47:55 And when we... 47:56 The Lord began to speak to Kenny 47:58 and to Danny about moving up here closer to 3ABN, 48:02 I thought, oh, wow, is these those boys, 48:06 are they just having this idea to help prove me 48:10 and make me move up here? 48:11 Is this really God? 48:13 And I've been praying and praying and praying. 48:15 And then one morning, I just spent like two hours in prayer 48:20 and crying and asking God, is this Your will? 48:23 You know if this is just some strange idea that they've got 48:26 to be together, you know, where do You want us, Father? 48:31 Amen. 48:32 And I once I finished, I said, "Now I know just 48:34 as we were just reading here, I know that You speak to us 48:37 through Your Word." 48:39 Yes. "Please speak to me." 48:40 Amen. And I kid you not. 48:43 A verse that probably I may have read 48:45 before because there are several like it 48:47 but it never hit home like this time, the very first word, 48:50 the very first verse I read was, 48:52 and in the land, is it found in Deuteronomy, 48:55 that thou goeth to possess, I will bless thee. 48:59 Amen. Wow. 49:00 So I knew with my daughter having moved in next door, 49:04 my grandbabies there for the first time close to me, 49:07 the land, the house, everything I had to leave, 49:11 because there's no better place than where God wants us. 49:14 But if you want to know what knowledge is? 49:16 You want to know where wisdom is? 49:18 We searched the Word of God. 49:19 Understand righteousness, judgment and equity 49:23 and every good path. 49:25 And you guys again at home can go back 49:26 and read that for yourself. 49:28 Read it a little closer. 49:30 Let's look at number three real quick. 49:32 How can we deal with our own personal doubts 49:35 and overcome them? 49:37 Okay, we've been talking a little bit about this already. 49:39 Let's just start and kind of go around a little bit. 49:43 If you got a little answer a little something on that one. 49:45 You know, it's... Any thoughts. 49:48 That's one of the most difficult things really. 49:50 It's your own personal doubts, your own personal fears. 49:53 Okay. 49:55 At least in my case that's been so hard for me 49:58 to overcome those things because for so long, 50:00 like I mentioned earlier, 50:01 I always felt like I wasn't good enough. 50:03 So when you've had this pattern of thinking for the majority 50:06 of your life and now you have to change it. 50:08 Yeah. You can't change it on yourself though. 50:11 You cannot do it. 50:12 You have to claim God's promises 50:13 what He says about you. 50:15 That's actually something I'm going through right now 50:17 for myself is I want to see, what does God say about me? 50:20 Yes. 50:21 You know, because I don't like how I see myself 50:23 and that needs to change. 50:24 Yeah. I hear you. 50:25 But the only way that can change is through Christ. 50:27 Amen. 50:28 You know, He calls us, you know, a light to the world. 50:30 He calls us the salt, you know, so. 50:32 And if you just keep reading His Word, 50:35 you see His promises everywhere of how much He loves you, 50:38 of how much He cares for you. 50:40 You know, what is it? 50:41 There's no greater love than this than to give 50:43 one's life for your friends. 50:45 He's done that for me. Amen. 50:46 He's done that for you. He's done that for all of us. 50:48 And it's so hard to grasp sometimes. Yes. 50:51 But I think when you really focus on that, 50:53 when you look to what Jesus actually went through for you, 50:56 what He suffered for you, 50:58 before you even were in this world, 51:00 He knew what you were possibly going 51:02 to do based on your decisions. 51:03 Yes. 51:05 He took that for you, that pain, that suffering, 51:07 just so you could be happy, 51:09 just so you can live in His love, 51:11 that you can live in His grace. 51:12 Amen. That's good, yes. 51:14 And that's the only way because I'll be honest, 51:16 I've done counseling, I've had counselors, 51:19 I've had psychologists, I've did it through the army 51:22 and they give you, you know, things to practice. 51:24 And yeah, they may help for a little while, 51:26 but eventually, you need Christ. 51:29 Amen. 51:30 It's not going to work, you know, maybe temporarily. 51:33 And if it does, it's probably false 51:35 and you're just kidding yourself. 51:36 There you go. You need Jesus in your heart. 51:38 You need to really, really accept Him. 51:40 What you're talking about, what your experience, 51:43 what you're expressing, I hope everyone at home is hearing it. 51:46 It's because it's real. 51:47 It's not just reading a book. No. 51:49 It's not just claiming empty promises. 51:52 There is power. Power. 51:54 Power. Absolutely. 51:55 He wants to open all of heaven. 51:57 He would pour out all of heaven for just one soul. 52:00 Amen. 52:01 To give them the power to overcome 52:02 but it's our choice, He will never force His will, 52:05 the enemy forces. 52:07 Oh, yeah. We're seeing that in our world today. 52:10 The enemy is forcing things 52:12 that people do not want in their lives. 52:15 Amen. But God never forces. 52:18 That's right. Amen. 52:19 He woos, He calls. 52:20 As she prayed for 11 years, that's why you had the spirit 52:23 of the whole of the living God, 52:25 touching and moving in your mind 52:27 and urging you to something better. 52:30 And you know what? You're not alone. 52:31 There's a lot of us that have felt unworthy. 52:33 And I... 52:34 One of the things that my wife did for me 52:36 and that she showed me the forgiveness of Christ. 52:38 Amen. 52:39 It was, you know, she loved God so much that she didn't want 52:42 to do her will because believe me. 52:44 I wanted to leave you. 52:46 She wanted to run, you know, but she never did. 52:49 Her love for God was greater. Yeah. 52:51 And she always said, "You know, Lord, 52:53 let Your will be done not mine." 52:55 Yeah. And she showed me the forgiveness of Christ. 52:58 So that alone, you need Christ, 53:02 you need God but you also you need that, 53:04 that community, you need those people to help you. 53:06 You've also just shared another thing. 53:08 It takes both of you working together. 53:10 There you go. 53:12 Even though you were on the outside, 53:13 she was holding on to Jesus. 53:15 If she hadn't held on, it would not have worked. 53:18 And eventually, if you hadn't come in, 53:20 it still may not have worked. 53:22 But because both of you working together 53:25 and began to put Christ first, 53:27 then the marriage could be healed. 53:29 Amen. But we had to make... 53:31 We had to make that choice. 53:32 And that's what comes down to, you have to make a choice. 53:34 It's a choice. 53:36 You're either going to go left or you're going to go right 53:38 but I can guarantee you, 53:39 the only way that is right is Christ. 53:41 Amen. That's the only way because you can't describe it. 53:44 You can't... No. 53:45 You can't tell somebody what it's like, 53:48 you have to experience it. 53:49 And the only way you do is by giving up 53:51 what you're comfortable with. 53:53 That's right. 53:54 So what should we see when we, as we say, 53:55 look in the spiritual mirror? 53:57 If I see myself every time I'm in trouble. 54:01 Who should I see? You should see Jesus. 54:03 Should see Jesus in there, isn't that right? 54:06 Let this mind be in you which is also in Christ Jesus. 54:10 And again, it's prompted, I look, I see a total failure, 54:13 you know, but when you look to Christ, 54:14 you see total victory. 54:16 That's right. 54:17 And that's what that devil doesn't want us 54:18 to sense that or feel that. 54:21 He wants us to focus in on our sin, 54:23 our unworthiness instead of the worthiness of Christ. 54:26 It's what you were talking about while ago, 54:27 unworthy, we're not good enough. 54:30 And we can always say, remember, in this life, 54:32 we will never be good enough. 54:34 There's nothing we can say, 54:36 nothing we can do to be good enough to inherit 54:38 the kingdom of God. 54:40 It's all about Christ and He was good enough. 54:43 He gave His life and I by faith 54:45 accept that called righteousness by faith. 54:48 I appreciate you, those words, Pastor Kenny, they're so great. 54:52 One of the things that when I was ill, 54:54 I focused in on the success 54:56 of my getting well was claiming God's promises. 55:00 Amen. 55:02 So if you want to bring it home, 55:03 you got to do the repetition of the promises, 55:04 even when you don't feel them, you don't feel like 55:07 if you are worthy of them, 55:09 you claim them every day. 55:10 Their repetition will become vital to you 55:13 and that's where your success becomes real. 55:16 If you're talking darkness and gloom, what happens? 55:19 That's where you're going. 55:20 It's exactly where you're going. 55:21 So that has to be cast off by the grace of God. 55:24 Every time we say anything with doubt or doubt scripture, 55:28 we've sowed a seed and that seed will spring up 55:31 and produce a harvest somewhere in our life. 55:34 So we have to be careful by the grace of God 55:36 to monitor our words 55:39 and our actions because we're planting seeds 55:41 all along and we don't want that. 55:43 We want the light of the gospel. 55:45 We want the light of truth, 55:46 we want the power of God in our life. 55:48 We're down to less than two minutes, honey, 55:49 may be a couple of quick thoughts here, 55:51 isn't that right? 55:52 I quit, I'm talking too much. 55:54 I wish that we had more time because, Angie, 55:56 I know that I could throw this one back at you 55:58 because by believing you built your faith. 56:01 Amen. 56:02 You know, and your faith was strengthened as you saw 56:03 the power of God working. 56:05 He is just amazing God, 56:07 like, even when we were at that little tiny church, 56:10 it was a little tiny church and Pastor Kenny was there. 56:14 God just has a sense of humor. 56:16 When I don't know if you remember 56:18 where everybody came in, you get a prize 56:19 if you're there and stuff. 56:21 And we, you called our name, and we got the Desire of Ages, 56:24 the big one but we already had it. 56:26 So Pastor Kenny gave us, you know what he gave us? 56:29 He gave us a 3ABN pen. 56:31 How funny is that for God to give us a 3ABN pen? 56:34 Look where we're sitting right now. 56:36 All right. 56:37 God knew what He was doing. Yeah. 56:39 I mean, to take somebody like us, 56:40 to bring us here, it's just God's awesome. 56:43 Amazing. And God's amazing. 56:44 Wonderful. 56:46 You know, I want you to think about this as we begin to close 56:47 because we've got to wrap it up. 56:49 But I also read this week that no man 56:51 is safe for a day or an hour without prayer. 56:55 Think about that. 56:56 A day or an hour we often think about in the morning, 56:58 in the evening, but start talking 57:01 to Him throughout the day. 57:02 Be in constant prayer. 57:04 No man is safe for a day or an hour without prayer. 57:07 Not even a second, isn't that right? 57:08 Amen. 57:10 Well, we just want to thank each one of you. 57:11 Yeah. Thank you. 57:13 Amen. 57:14 You just put out some things was just to me was awesome. 57:15 Good food for thought. 57:17 The Holy Spirit was working with each and every one. 57:18 And again, we want thank you for joining us here at 3ABN. 57:21 You know, this is just exciting subject because we realize 57:24 there's power in the name of Jesus. 57:25 There's victory in the blood of the Lamb. 57:27 Thank you for joining us today. 57:29 We pray the Holy Spirit's plant something in your heart 57:31 and in your mind. 57:32 Until next time, God bless you. 57:33 We'll see you. Amen. |
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