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Series Code: TDYFW
Program Code: TDYFW200009S
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00:01 I want to spend my life
00:07 Mending broken people 00:12 I want to spend my life 00:18 Removing pain 00:23 Lord, let my words 00:30 Heal a heart that hurts 00:34 I want to spend my life 00:40 Mending broken people 00:45 I want to spend my life 00:51 Mending broken people 01:09 Hello, and welcome to 3ABN Family Worship. 01:11 My name is John Dinzey. 01:12 I'm glad to be with you during this hour, 01:15 where we will be 01:16 sharing together from God's Word. 01:18 And we have some of the members of the 3ABN family, 01:22 which it's an extension of your family. 01:24 So I'd like to start out on my left 01:25 with Sister Francine. 01:27 Welcome. Thank you. 01:29 I'm glad to be here. I appreciate it. 01:31 And you do a wonderful work with the kids' channel. 01:35 Tell us about that? 01:37 Well, there's a lot of programming 01:38 going on with the kids programming 01:40 and right now with what's going on. 01:42 We're also having the lessons for the kids. 01:44 So definitely, we're having a lot of fun 01:46 and we have a little new addition coming. 01:48 Praise God. 01:50 Well, next to you is your husband Jason Bergmann. 01:54 Welcome. Good to be here. Thank you. 01:56 Thank you for allowing me 01:57 to be a part of this great time. 01:59 Amen. Amen. 02:00 And you work in what aspect of the 3ABN ministry? 02:05 So I'm part of the accounting finance area. 02:08 So I enjoy numbers. 02:11 And so, really good group of people 02:14 and it's good to be here and be a part of 3ABN, 02:18 especially during this time. 02:19 I'm seeing all those 02:22 who are donating to 3ABN, it's a true blessing. 02:25 So, and just happy to be a part of it 02:28 and seeing what we do here, it's just a blessing. 02:32 Thank you so much, 02:34 and going to my right Sister Nancy O'Brien. 02:36 Welcome. Thank you. 02:38 It's nice to be here. 02:39 I always enjoy Family Worship on Friday night, 02:42 so it's good to be here. 02:43 Thank you. Amen. 02:45 Tell us a little bit about what you do for 3ABN family? 02:48 I am a trust officer in the Plant Giving 02:51 and Trust Services department. 02:53 So we work with people 02:55 that are interested in trusts and annuities, and wills and... 03:02 All those things. All those things, yeah. 03:04 Well, we have heard from Joe O' Brien, 03:07 tell us a little bit about what you do and welcome. 03:09 Thank you. 03:11 I guess I started here around 1999 03:14 and have been in the pastoral department, 03:17 started with Johnny 03:18 with just the two of us for a while. 03:20 That's right. And love what I do. 03:23 It's a good job to be able to go 03:25 out to the world and share, 03:28 answering questions from the good old Word. 03:31 Thus saith the Lord because He really is healing 03:34 and points the direction and how to get there. 03:39 I love it. Amen. 03:40 We worked for many years 03:42 in the pastoral ministry department 03:43 and I always enjoyed your passion 03:45 as you speak to people and pray with them. 03:48 Speaking of prayer, we're going to go to the Lord 03:50 in prayer right now 03:52 and I'm going to ask Pastor Joe O'Brien 03:53 to lead us in prayer. 03:55 Our Father in heaven, this morning, 03:57 we look to being together, one with you. 04:02 It's important, Lord, 04:04 that having been made in Your image, 04:06 having fallen, 04:08 that Your love has provided for us a Savior, 04:12 who's paid the price 04:14 and that we have the opportunity 04:16 to once again become your sons and daughters 04:20 and walk with You, according to Your will. 04:23 Help us Lord along the way and in this meeting today here, 04:27 we want to share some of the points 04:30 that are necessary and useful in being restored, 04:34 being redeemed, being sanctified 04:37 for the future, new heaven and new earth. 04:40 And we thank You for being with us, 04:42 and helping us to share those thoughts 04:44 that are important for this time. 04:47 And we thank You in Jesus' name, amen. 04:49 Amen. Amen. 04:50 Amen. Amen. Thank you so much. 04:53 Well, today we're talking about something very important. 04:56 What I believe is 04:57 and that is sons and daughters of God. 05:00 And we have to start, 05:04 what you would say where the problem started. 05:08 It was God's intention that we would live 05:13 eternally happy being children of God, 05:16 but sin entered into the world. 05:18 We're going to take a brief look at Genesis Chapter 3, 05:22 because it tells us the story, 05:24 I would say, very briefly 05:26 of how sin entered into the world. 05:29 Well, there was the enemy, 05:30 I'm going to give a little summary before that. 05:32 There was the enemy, Lucifer, 05:35 wonderful, beautiful angel that rebelled in heaven 05:39 having no reason whatsoever, 05:42 but that desired that which did not belong to Him. 05:47 And not only was he not happy, 05:51 he tried to create that same unhappiness 05:55 in the other angels and a third of the angels, 06:00 for some reason or another, 06:04 sided with Lucifer to cause rebellion in heaven. 06:09 I don't know if any one of you wants 06:11 to give something brief about the rebellion in heaven. 06:15 And what do you, 06:21 what the Lord has shown you there about the rebellion? 06:23 I mean, there was really no reason whatsoever. 06:28 I do remember hearing somebody mentioned something about 06:32 when you want to sell an idea to somebody 06:34 that you have to somehow make them believe it's theirs. 06:40 I've heard of salesmen, that some people 06:43 some they say when you show up to somebody's house, 06:45 they don't know they need what you have. 06:47 So you have to somehow let them believe, 06:50 lead them to believe they have a need, 06:52 even though they don't think they did. 06:54 And so, any thoughts? I see you sharing them. 06:59 It surprised when I gave it thought 07:01 that in heaven, this war, there was no bloodshed. 07:07 And then it occurred to me 07:09 that the war was a war of words, 07:12 and thoughts, and ideas, and beliefs. 07:16 And obviously, Satan has said, 07:20 "I will be as the Most High," 07:23 which means he wants to be worshiped. 07:26 And with that in mind, things started to look 07:29 a whole lot different when I read Scripture. 07:33 So he craved, he desired the worship 07:35 that God that rightfully belong to God. 07:40 There's a wonderful song out there 07:41 that is called God and God alone. 07:44 And it's a beautiful song, beautiful words, 07:46 but let's go to Him coming to the earth. 07:51 He came to the earth to try to gain 07:54 more supporters for His cause. 07:56 Genesis 3:1-10. 08:00 And I would like to read, 08:02 let's say the first five verses and, 08:05 Sister Francine, 08:06 if you would read the next five, 08:08 and then we will talk a little bit about it. 08:10 Now it says in Genesis 3:1, 08:13 "Now the serpent was more crafty or subtle," 08:16 the King James Version says, 08:18 "than any of the wild animals the Lord God had made. 08:22 He said to the woman, 08:24 'Did God really say you must not eat 08:27 from any tree in the garden?' 08:30 The woman said to the serpent, 08:32 'We may eat fruit from the trees in the garden, 08:35 but God did say you must not eat fruit 08:38 from the tree 08:39 that is in the middle of the garden, 08:41 and you must not touch it, or you will die.' 08:45 'You will not certainly die,' the serpent said to the woman, 08:48 for God knows that when you eat from it, 08:51 your eyes will be open and you will be like 08:54 God knowing good and evil.'" 08:57 "So when the women saw that the tree was good for the food, 09:01 that it was pleasant to the eyes 09:03 and the tree desirable to make one wise, 09:06 she took it for its fruit and ate. 09:09 She also gave it to her husband with her, 09:11 and he ate. 09:13 Then the eyes of both of them were opened, 09:16 and they knew that they were naked, 09:18 and they sewed fig leaves together 09:21 and made themselves coverings. 09:23 And they heard the sound of the Lord 09:25 God walking in the garden in the cool of the day, 09:28 and Adam and his wife hid themselves 09:31 from the presence of the Lord 09:32 God amongst the trees of the garden. 09:35 Then the Lord God called to Adam, 09:37 and said to him, 'Where are you?' 09:41 So He said, 09:42 'I heard your voice in the garden, 09:44 and I was afraid 09:45 because I was naked, and I hid myself.'" 09:49 Very good. Thank you very much. 09:51 Any comments about these verses that we read? 09:54 There's a lot packed in there. 09:55 There's a lot packed in there, yes. 09:59 I was thinking about verse 4, I believe it is, it says, 10:03 "And the serpent said unto the woman, 10:06 'You shall not surely die.'" 10:07 And I once asked myself, 10:11 why didn't he just say you shall not die? 10:15 This is a war of words. 10:16 He put that word in there surely. 10:18 You should not surely die. 10:21 Maybe just a little bit, 10:23 or maybe it's different than you think. 10:26 And so, I looked at that a little closer 10:29 and thought to myself, 10:30 this is the beginning of spiritualism. 10:33 We hear people talk about spiritualism as a bad thing. 10:36 And what is it and where did it come from? 10:38 Well, what he's saying is, 10:41 "You shall not surely die." 10:44 He's saying, "You don't surely die." 10:50 When you die, you don't die. What are you talking about? 10:52 That's spiritualism. You still live. 10:54 What are you talking about? He says, "You don't surely die. 10:59 If you don't surely die, your spirit lives on." 11:02 That is spiritualism, believing that you don't die, 11:04 that you're immortal. 11:06 And the Bible says only God is immortal. 11:09 So then, actually, 11:13 we are believing Satan instead of God. 11:15 You shall not surely die. 11:18 You got a choice, 11:20 you're going to believe you die or you don't die. 11:21 Is God right or Satan right? 11:23 And if you believe in spiritualism, 11:26 that when you die, you live on somehow surely. 11:30 That's spiritualism 11:31 and you're believing Satan that you don't die. 11:35 So something I noticed in verse 9, 11:39 where Francine read, 11:41 "Then the Lord called to Adam and Eve 11:44 and said to him, 'Where are you?'" 11:47 You know, when I look at, when I consider that question, 11:53 God knows the end from the beginning. 11:58 And for him to ask the question, 12:00 where are you, He already knew that 12:04 something had drastically changed the relationship 12:08 between His children. 12:11 And for him to ask, I'm sure His heart 12:15 was just devastated but understanding that 12:20 the plan of salvation is now needs to be enacted. 12:26 And I just see that here's a relationship 12:29 that was close that they were eager to run to Jesus 12:33 and then from eager running to a hiding. 12:39 And that, boy, I tell you from a parent perspective, 12:43 you know, I play hide and go seek with my daughter 12:46 and you know, it's all fun and games, 12:48 but when you're talking about your creation, 12:50 who was eager to see you to a point 12:53 where they're afraid of you now, 12:55 that was hard. 12:58 It must have been hard. 12:59 And for me, their eyes were opened. 13:02 And as a parent, like you were saying, 13:05 we want to protect our daughter, for example, 13:07 and I don't want her eyes always opened on evil, 13:11 what is bent, what is evil. 13:13 And so, yes, their eyes were opened, 13:16 but was it for the good? 13:18 And then it comes back to 13:21 when Amanda specifically a little too quiet 13:24 or something like, you have that relationship 13:27 with her, you know, something's amiss, you know, 13:30 and it's because of that relationship. 13:31 And she knows when I'm coming up the stairs 13:34 or, you know, when mommy's coming, 13:36 she knows, you know, she's doing something 13:38 because she's lately, she's at that age 13:40 where she wants to experiment with things. 13:42 And so she's going through my cupboards 13:44 and grabbing some things 13:45 and trying to mix things and, you know, 13:47 which is a good thing, 13:49 but she knows there's certain things 13:50 she's not supposed to get into. 13:51 And so, you know, 13:53 when she has that guilty conscience, 13:54 mommy already knows something's wrong, 13:56 like there's that atmosphere 13:58 because of that relationship and that's the same with God. 14:01 God already had that relationship, 14:03 and so did Adam. 14:04 And he knew God was coming. 14:07 And he had that guilty conscience of, 14:09 "I've done something. 14:11 And there's this separation of that we've done." 14:14 And even when my daughter will do something like that, 14:18 that she's not supposed to, it's hurting the trust 14:21 that we have for each other, you know, 14:23 and it's also making that barrier 14:26 and so you have to almost reinstate, like, 14:28 she has to earn that trust back to be able to do that. 14:31 And I think that's what God's working on here 14:33 is working back for our salvation. 14:36 Definitely. 14:38 Yes. Thank you very much. 14:39 When you mentioned guilt, 14:41 I just, it hit me that all of us 14:45 when we sin, we feel guilt. 14:49 And you don't have to be a Christian to feel guilty. 14:54 I mean, this is powerful stuff. 14:56 So when we feel guilty, what happens to me, 14:58 I mean, my experience is that 15:02 you don't want to see God right away, 15:04 maybe a couple days later might be better 15:06 because you forget about these things, you know, 15:08 so it's a little easier to go back to Him. 15:11 And so I began to realize 15:14 this is the spiritual war. 15:18 God wants us to be righteous, 15:19 Satan wants us to be wrongteous. 15:22 I want to coin that word 15:23 because if there's up, there's down... 15:25 That's a new word, isn't it? 15:26 If there's up, there's down, if there's hot, there's cold, 15:28 if there's righteousness, there must be wrongteousness. 15:31 But anyway, so the point is that 15:34 when you sin, when I sin and you feel that guilt, 15:38 you don't want to see the boss, 15:39 you don't want to see your best friend, 15:41 because not right now, maybe in a day or two, 15:44 but I've come to understand that 15:46 this is a war and because it's a war. 15:50 If I were to tell a lie, and wait a day or two, 15:53 it might be easier. 15:55 But Satan's got that time on his turf. 15:58 He's still messing with you, okay? 16:01 And when I would say a lie, if I were to tell a lie, 16:05 the best thing you can do 16:07 is fall on your knees one second after 16:09 and say, "Lord, don't leave me. 16:12 I'm sorry, forgive me. 16:15 Let's be buddies again, let's be friends." 16:17 And do that as quick as you can, 16:18 because the time from you've done it, 16:21 to the time that you get around to get in friendly 16:23 with your boss, is Satan's time. 16:27 Don't let him have it, 16:28 take it away from him immediately. 16:30 You know, and also anybody must have love Jesus. 16:35 I mean that love relationship is there. 16:37 And when they sinned, 16:39 I'm sure they felt guilt, but it was also guilt that 16:41 they had hurt someone they loved. 16:44 I mean, I remember as a teenager 16:45 saying something to my mother that after I said it was like, 16:48 and I saw her face, it was like, 16:50 "Oh, I didn't, you know, I'm so sorry, I said that." 16:53 Because when you love someone, you know that it's the hurt 16:57 that you've caused them 16:58 that causes you the terrible feeling. 17:00 Amen. 17:02 So the question is, is feeling guilty a good thing? 17:06 Is it a good thing? 17:08 It can be. 17:12 Actually it can be. It actually can be. 17:13 And that's the hardest thing 17:15 is when you feel guilty is to say, I'm sorry. 17:17 I mean, even for our daughter 17:18 at two or three years old that was, 17:20 that's the hardest thing for her to do sometimes 17:23 is just to say, I'm sorry. 17:26 You know, and there's other times 17:27 it comes quickly. 17:29 But there's other times it's like, 17:30 I'm not that sorry like, 17:31 you know, and sometimes we're not. 17:33 As human beings, we're not sorry. 17:35 Now, I'm hoping that they were very sorry, 17:37 especially with the ramifications 17:40 of what we see here. 17:41 I'm sure they must have had that guilt. 17:43 And that, you know, being sorry for sin. 17:45 And that's the step of reconciliation, I guess. 17:50 You know, it's interesting that as we look at this, 17:53 there are many things that we can bring out, 17:55 but I believe there's a great possibility 18:00 that there was more conversation 18:03 between the serpent and Eve 18:05 before they got to this question, 18:07 "Did God really say you cannot eat 18:08 from every tree of the garden" 18:09 because I can't really, I mean, I don't meet people 18:12 that I just met and say, 18:14 "Hey, did God really say, you know." 18:15 No, there was possibly some more conversation, 18:19 but the Bible is giving us 18:21 the main discussion 18:26 to lead to what happened. 18:28 And so it's interesting that 18:34 the serpent says, 18:38 "For God knows when you eat from it, 18:40 your eyes will be open and you'll be like 18:42 God knowing good and evil." 18:43 Now, to some degree, I believe that, you know, 18:47 they want it to be like God, they admired Him. 18:50 But now, the way 18:52 the serpent presents this thing, 18:54 it's like, you know, 18:56 it seems like God doesn't love you 18:58 enough to give you more than what He's given you, 19:01 because He knows that when your eyes are open, 19:03 you're going to be knowing good and evil and seem to paint, 19:07 if I say that way, 19:09 like knowing evil was a good thing. 19:11 I mean, if I say, if I say to you, 19:14 "Jason, you're going to be like God, 19:17 knowing good health and really bad health." 19:21 It doesn't sound as good, does it? 19:23 Or knowing disease, 19:24 knowing health and knowing disease, 19:26 it doesn't sound as good. 19:27 But apparently, Eve's curiosity 19:30 was heightened to say, 19:34 "Wow, must be something good to know, 19:36 good and evil." 19:38 And so, I think you wanted to say something 19:41 about this aspect of the, 19:44 that she had to evaluate what He said, 19:46 "Wait a minute, if I eat of the fruit, 19:49 I will be like God, knowing good and evil." 19:52 Well, the first thing that crosses my mind is that 19:56 this was Satan's problem in heaven. 20:00 He was in the Eve's position. 20:01 He wanted more, 20:03 he wanted to be like the Most High. 20:05 And he figured, well, that'll work for Eve too. 20:07 I can tell her she can have more. 20:09 And in the process of that, there's a... 20:15 I think it's verse 6 in Genesis 3:6. 20:18 Okay. 20:20 "And when the woman saw that the tree was good for food," 20:23 that's the carnal part, the physical part. 20:26 And I read that numerous times until one day, 20:29 it occurred to me, she saw something. 20:33 What did she see? 20:36 Well, in the Hebrew language, the word saw is raah. 20:41 And raah is defined as to be caused to see, 20:47 to be shown, 20:50 and to be exhibited to you. 20:54 Exhibited, she saw something. 20:57 So we could probably consider the likelihood 20:59 that Satan took a bite. 21:03 And guess what? He didn't die. 21:07 Whoa, maybe he knows something, 21:11 maybe he know something about this good and evil thing 21:13 is what I wanted a little bit of that. 21:16 In any event just real quickly to bring out that, 21:19 she took the fruit thereof and did eat 21:21 and gave it also unto her husband. 21:24 And he did eat. 21:25 Now when she went to give it to her husband, 21:27 there was already a bite gone. 21:29 I mean, she was probably... 21:31 He knew that she had eaten it, and she was not dead. 21:35 So it wasn't as easy to criticize and say, 21:38 "Well, these people weren't paying attention." 21:40 No, there was something more going on there 21:41 than we realize, you know. 21:43 So in any event, though, 21:44 that's just the carnal perspective. 21:46 The spiritual perspective is that Satan, 21:51 it says in the end of time, 21:54 God's people will keep the commandments of God 21:56 and have the Spirit of Jesus, 21:57 but it also says 21:59 they will not have guile in their mouths. 22:01 This is an experience of guile 22:05 using words cleverly that sound 22:07 like the truth based on God's Word, 22:11 but there's guile there. 22:13 This is brilliant. Be careful. Thank you. 22:16 You know, as we were reading here, 22:18 I saw something that 22:19 I've never really thought about before. 22:21 And I'm going to say just to, 22:24 not that I'm going to make a comment about it, 22:26 but it's interesting to me. 22:28 Notice verse 9 and 10, 22:30 "But the Lord God called to the man, 22:32 'Where are you?' 22:34 He answered, 'I heard you in the garden 22:37 and I was afraid because I was naked, so I hid." 22:41 So one of two things have to be happening here. 22:44 He is, God is talking to Adam by himself 22:49 or Eve stayed behind for some reason, 22:54 because he only answered for himself. 22:57 I was naked. He didn't say, we were naked. 22:59 He said, I was naked. It's very interesting. 23:03 And so, I'm sure you have heard that 23:08 Adam and Eve before sin were robed, 23:12 they were wearing a garment of light. 23:16 It's very interesting when you consider that 23:20 they sewed fig leaves together to make themselves a garment. 23:25 And part of this shame is I'm not wearing 23:28 the garment You gave me anymore. 23:32 I'm wearing something else, you know. 23:35 So there's the guilt aspect of it. 23:38 I don't want to face God, 23:39 I've done something He told me not to do. 23:42 And, of course, 23:43 then there are the consequences. 23:45 But here, there's this mercy 23:50 offered to both Adam and Eve and I'm sure that 23:53 because of time we are not able to talk 23:55 about the whole thing. 23:56 Genesis Chapter 11. 23:58 This time I'm going to read verses... 24:01 I'm going to read five verses. 24:05 And then, Mrs. O'Brien, 24:10 if you read them unto verse 19 when I stop. 24:13 "And he said, 'Who told you that you were naked? 24:15 Have you eaten from the tree 24:17 that I commanded you not to eat from?' 24:20 The man said, 24:21 'The woman you put here with me, 24:22 she gave me some fruit from the tree and I ate it.' 24:26 Then the Lord God said to the woman, 24:28 'What is this you have done?' 24:30 The woman said, 24:32 'The serpent deceived me, and I ate.' 24:35 So the Lord God said to the serpent, 24:37 'Because you have done this, 24:39 cursed are you above all livestock, 24:42 and all wild animals, you will crawl on your belly, 24:45 and you will eat dust all the days of your life.'" 24:50 "And I will put enmity between you and the woman, 24:52 and between your seed and her seed. 24:55 He shall bruise your head and you shall bruise his heel. 24:59 To the woman He said, 25:00 'I will greatly multiply your sorrow 25:03 and your conception. 25:04 In pain, you shall bring forth children. 25:07 Your desire shall be for your husband, 25:09 and he shall rule over you." 25:12 Then to Adam He said, 25:14 'Because you have heeded the voice of your wife, 25:17 and have eaten from the tree 25:18 of which I commanded you, saying, 25:20 You shall not eat of it,' 25:22 cursed is the ground for your sake, 25:25 in toil you shall eat of it all the days of your life, 25:28 both thorns and thistles it shall bring forth for you, 25:32 and you shall eat the herb of the field 25:34 in the sweat of your face, you should eat bread. 25:37 So you return to the ground for out of it 25:40 you were taken for dust you are, 25:43 and to dust you shall return.'" 25:46 Thank you very much. 25:47 Any comments about these verses we read? 25:50 Anything stand out to you? 25:53 If you got an hour. No, not anymore. 25:57 Wow. 25:59 Well, there's blessing and curse. 26:00 God, the sons and daughters of God, 26:04 the people He created holy in His own image 26:08 were to live righteous and be blessed 26:12 on and on and on for eternity. 26:15 And we the sons and daughters of God, made another friend. 26:21 And that friend gives bad advice. 26:24 And the result for that is not blessing. 26:28 The judgment, God is a perfect judge 26:30 is that there's blessing for righteous choices 26:34 and there's curse for wrongteous choices. 26:39 But in any event, 26:41 the things that God gave to them, 26:44 the thistles and the childbirth problems 26:47 and things like that, 26:50 is a learning tool to realize there is a better way, 26:55 I want to go back. 26:57 And the sons and daughters of God 26:58 are on their way back. 27:01 That's one thing I sense. Thank you very much. 27:04 To me, I mean, what you were reading earlier 27:06 and just before we started reading the second section, 27:10 it is interesting to me that 27:12 we see that they were reflecting Christ, 27:15 God's light really 27:17 because they had a robe of light, 27:19 righteousness and then all of a sudden 27:20 that light is no longer there, 27:22 which is why they realized that they were naked. 27:26 They were no longer reflecting His character and yet 27:29 and that is what God wants to do 27:31 is still have us shine His light 27:34 even in His character. 27:36 And when I think about how God wants to do it, 27:41 He says how much He has chosen us. 27:44 I mean, it's almost as if we are adopted, 27:47 if I want to say it this way, 27:48 because when you have your own children, 27:52 you have given what God has given you based, 27:55 you know, because it's already biological. 27:58 But adoption is where God has actually chosen you. 28:02 God has already chosen Adam and Eve, He formed them. 28:06 And then coming back later on, 28:08 I mean, I've got some other texts here, 28:10 but where God is calling us as His sons and daughters, 28:14 I mean, He's almost adopting us 28:16 and He wants us to come back to Him. 28:18 And we store that light that we chose to separate from Him. 28:24 Yes, it's true. We chose to separate from Him. 28:27 You know, it's very interesting that they were told, 28:33 sometimes when we read it, I think most people in the day 28:37 that you eat of it, you will surely die. 28:38 Some people say, 28:40 oh, they were supposed to die that day. 28:41 You know, it's interesting 28:43 when I can almost see Adam and Eve, 28:48 when the Lord talks to the serpent and says, 28:51 "And I will put enmity between you and the woman," 28:56 and notice, 28:57 "and between your offspring and hers," in King James says, 28:59 "Your seed and hers, 29:01 he will crush your head and you will strike his heel." 29:03 It's almost like I could see Eve look at Adam. 29:06 Did you hear that? 29:08 I'm going to have a seed, an offspring. 29:10 So, right there's it's good news already. 29:12 Wait a minute, this is not going 29:13 to end today, you know. 29:15 And so, then the description, you know, 29:18 thorns and thistles are coming and, 29:21 wait a minute, 29:23 there's talk of life continuing. 29:27 And eventually, of course, 29:29 in the sweat of thy brow you'll return to the dust. 29:31 But they saw hope. 29:33 And this is God extending mercy to them. 29:35 One thing here, interesting. 29:38 When Adam and Eve sinned, 29:40 we don't see in the Bible that they were out looking for God, 29:42 we need to talk to God about this, 29:43 you know, they were hiding. 29:45 God came to look for them. God came to search for them. 29:49 And this is a marvelous God. 29:51 And the same way that God was looking for Adam and Eve, 29:55 went to meet with them, for those of us 29:57 that have separated 29:59 from the Lord God is looking for us. 30:01 And wanting to get call us back to Him, 30:05 to restore the relationship that we should have with Him. 30:09 We can't stay here in Genesis, we have to move on 30:11 because the separation happened. 30:14 And Adam and Eve, they became estranged children. 30:20 And no longer were they able to have 30:22 the joy of face to face communion with God. 30:27 God had to withdraw Himself for their sake 30:32 because what we understand is that God is, 30:36 His Holiness would consume sin in them. 30:41 And then if having the sin in them, 30:45 any thoughts about this that you would like to share? 30:48 Well, and it reminds me of Moses, 30:51 how Moses was asking to see God, 30:54 I believe it was in Exodus 33, 30:56 and how he wanted to see who God was and again, 30:59 God is reaffirming that you cannot see Me. 31:02 I mean, I need to put My hand, 31:03 you know, and He's giving provision 31:07 so that He can see, it's a part of His glory. 31:11 But again, it's just showing that 31:13 we need to have His character and yet, 31:16 at least Moses had that desire of wanting to see God. 31:20 Yes. Amen. 31:21 I think we should have that desire too. 31:26 And there's that beautiful song face to face, 31:29 I shall behold Him. 31:30 Job expressed something similar, 31:34 where he says in the latter rain, 31:35 I will see him. 31:37 I'm trying to remember how it's worded, 31:39 but maybe I will look for it as, 31:40 if someone is, as somebody, 31:42 someone sharing information but here in Isaiah 59, 31:46 I just like to go to that one really quick 31:47 just to highlight what happens 31:53 if we hold on to sin, 31:56 this is I would say clearly brought out in Scripture 32:02 that what happens with sin. 32:05 And Isaiah 59:2, "But your iniquities 32:10 have separated you from your God, 32:13 and your sins have hidden his face from you, 32:15 so that he will not hear." 32:17 You see, it's us that separate from Him, not Him from us. 32:22 But He has to for our sake withdraw, 32:26 I would say for a little while, 32:29 because we will see Him face to face. 32:33 Anything that you would like to share concerning 32:35 these verses here and sin separating us 32:37 from God and God's, 32:39 because we need to move now to God's desire 32:42 to restore us to Him. 32:45 I do have some... 32:48 While you're thinking about that, 32:49 I do have some verse that I like to share 32:51 to highlight the fact that Adam and Eve 32:53 were God's children and this is in Luke Chapter 3, 33:00 and if we read the genealogy there of Christ is mentioned, 33:07 there are two genealogies of Christ. 33:09 One is in Matthew Chapter 1. 33:12 But then there's one in Luke Chapter 3 33:15 which does something a little different. 33:17 In Matthew, it starts from Jesus 33:19 was the son of Joseph 33:21 and it goes backwards, but here in Luke, 33:25 it goes 33:30 all the way to Adam. 33:32 And so we're going to read the last three verses 33:36 of Luke Chapter 3 and that's verses 36, 33:39 37 and 38. 33:41 "The son of Cainan, the son of Arphaxad, 33:44 the son of Shem, the son of Noah, 33:46 the son of Lamech, 33:47 the son of Methuselah, the son of Enoch, 33:50 the son of Jared, the son of Mahalalel, 33:54 the son of Cainan, the son of Enosh, 33:56 the son of Seth, the son of Adam, 33:59 the son of God." 34:01 And so it tells us here that Adam was the son of God, 34:06 and Adam being the son of God. 34:08 Here the woman is not mentioned, 34:10 Eve was the daughter of God. 34:13 So Jesus came to restore the blessing of us 34:18 being sons and daughters of God. 34:20 And this is where we want to focus on now, 34:22 sons and daughters of God. 34:23 Any scriptures you want to share 34:25 about that or thoughts? 34:27 Interesting, 1 John 3:1. 34:32 And it says, "Behold, what manner of love 34:35 the Father has bestowed upon us, 34:38 that we should be called the sons and daughters 34:40 or sons of God, therefore," and this is interesting, 34:44 "therefore the world knoweth us not, 34:47 because it knew him not." 34:49 Basically what it's saying is, if you go back to being 34:53 a son or daughter of God, 34:54 if you go back to living the law of God's government, 34:59 as we started out doing, 35:01 the world isn't going to think much of you, 35:05 you're going to be a standout 35:06 and they're going to be throwing tomatoes at you. 35:10 You know, it's interesting. 35:13 And we should understand that 35:14 and I'm glad you brought that out 35:16 because it was sin 35:19 and disobedience to God's commands 35:23 that brought us into this situation. 35:26 We should not expect that we will continue a life of evil 35:30 and disobedience in for eternity. 35:34 God wants us to be willing 35:37 to put an end to a life of sin, 35:39 through the power that He gives us, 35:42 so that we can live in harmony with Him 35:45 and in harmony with our fellow men. 35:47 Johnny, the next verse verifies that. 35:50 Okay. 35:51 So we just read, you know, 35:53 1 John 3:1, verse 3 says, 35:56 "And every man that hath this hope in him, 36:01 to purify himself even as he is pure." 36:04 We're just going home. 36:06 We're going back to what we were meant to be. 36:08 You know, there's angels that have two-thirds are holy, 36:12 they've never sinned. 36:13 They aren't going to sin, and we're being invited 36:16 to come home and walk the streets with them. 36:20 And that means to be restored 36:22 or like you said, Francine adopted. 36:25 We're going home. 36:27 Now, we're going to join them and be pure. 36:31 And there won't be any more thistles. 36:35 The scripture that came to mind when Francine said adopted 36:37 was in Galatians 4:4-7, 36:45 it says, "But when the fullness of the time had come, 36:48 God sent forth His Son, born of a woman, 36:51 born under the law, 36:53 to redeem those who were under the law, 36:55 that we might receive the adoption as sons 36:59 and because you are sons and daughters, 37:01 God has sent forth the Spirit of His Son into your hearts, 37:05 crying out, 'Abba, Father.' 37:08 Therefore, you're no longer a slave, 37:11 but a son, and if a son 37:13 than an heir of God through Christ.'" 37:16 Wow. Marvelous. 37:18 Yeah. Powerful. 37:20 Powerful indeed. Yes. 37:22 Powerful, powerful indeed. 37:23 And so, this is something I would like to bring out 37:28 because somebody may be listening, 37:32 watching and they wonder, 37:34 "Oh, no, I'm just too evil, too wicked." 37:38 You know, the sacrifice of Christ on the cross. 37:42 Provision has been made so that the worst person 37:47 like Paul claimed I am the chief of sinner, 37:49 I am the worst of them all. 37:52 Provision has been made through the sacrifice of Christ. 37:54 Reality the Bible points out 37:56 that Jesus took the sins of the whole world upon Him 38:00 so that any individual no matter 38:02 how sinful they have lived 38:04 can have eternal life through Jesus Christ. 38:08 So if you are wondering there, can I be included in that? 38:12 Yes, yes, God wants you to be His child. 38:16 And so I encourage you to make a decision 38:18 to be a son or a daughter of God. 38:21 And to back that up, 38:22 there's a couple of verses I really love. 38:24 One of them says, 38:26 "He who is forgiven the most, loves the most." 38:31 And another one says, 38:35 "The last on earth will be first in heaven." 38:38 So don't ever scratch your name off the list. 38:41 What's interesting 38:43 that I see in all this is here, you know, 38:47 God's glory is a refiner, and sometimes you know, 38:53 we think that you want to do the exact opposite of, 38:57 you know, it gets hot when you go to a fire. 39:00 But there's purity, 39:03 and when we go towards Christ, we learn more about Him. 39:06 And we understand His love and we experience His love. 39:11 And that's the refining. 39:13 So anybody can come to Jesus, no matter what. 39:16 And He'll attract you to Him 39:19 if you're willing to be refined, 39:22 and to be a son and daughter of God, which is amazing. 39:27 You know, when you look at 39:28 Shadrach, Meshach, and Abednego, 39:30 they went into that fire. 39:33 And what was amazing is the purity of Jesus 39:36 with them took anything 39:39 that was restrictive off of them. 39:43 And that's what happens when we go to Jesus, 39:45 all those things that we may 39:49 or shouldn't do those things that have restricted us 39:53 are now being released when we go towards Christ. 39:56 And we're refined 39:58 and we get renewed in our mind in the direction 40:00 that we should go because He gives us that light, 40:03 not only physically 40:05 but also mentally which is credible. 40:09 Amen, amen. Amen. 40:13 What reminds me is again that love 40:15 and that relationship with others 40:17 and in especially if we can show 40:18 that relationship with others. 40:20 In Ephesians 4:2, it says, 40:22 "Be completely humble and gentle 40:24 and be patient bearing with one another in love." 40:27 We always want to have that love, and I don't know 40:29 if somebody else wants to look up 40:32 1 Peter 4:8. 40:34 But I don't know you want to look that up? 40:39 Thank you, Mrs. O' Brien. 40:43 But it says, I mean, we want to love each other 40:46 because when we love each other, 40:47 we have that love of Jesus. 40:51 That should overpower any sin that we already have. 40:55 If you can read that. Yes. 40:57 Thanks. 40:58 "And above all things 40:59 have fervent love for one another, 41:02 for love will cover a multitude of sins." 41:04 Amen. 41:06 And so even though in our sinful nature, 41:09 we can turn to God. 41:10 Amen. 41:12 In John 1:12, he even says, 41:16 "But as many as received Him, 41:19 to them He gave right to become children of God, 41:22 to those who believe in His name." 41:25 You know, and it just takes faith to believe. 41:29 And because I mean, there's, there's no proof that 41:32 we can say, "Oh, yeah, 41:33 I've got this certificate that says, 41:35 "I'm a child of God." 41:37 But we have to accept it on faith. 41:39 But he says, "There's many as received Him, 41:42 He gives them right to become children and God." 41:44 Amen. 41:45 And that's powerful, because there's so many people 41:48 in the world today that feel like 41:49 they don't have parents or, I mean, 41:51 I know there for a while I didn't feel like 41:54 I had a role model, 41:55 somebody that I could call father 41:57 so whenever I pray, I often used the word father 42:00 because to me, that shows a relationship. 42:03 To me that's the most special word for me 42:07 is to be able to call Him my father 42:09 and so many people are hurting that 42:11 they don't have that, 42:13 that relationship that they want to be 42:14 able to feel like somebody 42:16 is taking them under their wing, 42:17 looking out for them, 42:19 I mean looking out for their well being. 42:21 And that's what God's always doing. 42:22 And sometimes when the hardship comes, 42:24 we don't realize that God is really looking down, 42:27 trying to protect us. 42:29 Amen. Amen. Amen. 42:31 There's one verse I'd like to read 42:32 because right in the midst of all this, 42:34 sons and daughters of God 42:35 and adoption is 42:39 Galatians 4:5, 42:45 it covers a lot. 42:47 It says, "The redeemed them that were under the law," 42:52 that's us, "that we might receive 42:55 the adoption of sons, 42:58 and because you are sons when you are adopted, 43:02 God has sent forth the Spirit of His Son into your hearts." 43:07 And it goes on and says, 43:09 "Wherefore thou are no more a servant, 43:12 but a son, and if a son, 43:15 then an heir of God through Christ." 43:20 So we're going to inherit everything we lost, 43:23 which includes an eternal life. 43:26 That's something. 43:28 Well, you know, bringing out this thing 43:30 about being an heir is, 43:33 it's a marvelous thing to consider that God wants to, 43:39 for us to understand that 43:41 we are joint heirs with Jesus Christ is like what? 43:44 Me? 43:46 You know, and therein is the marvelous 43:51 love of God displayed for us in different ways 43:55 God is trying to help us understand. 43:58 You know, you remember the time 43:59 when the disciples said to Jesus, 44:02 "Teach us to pray," 44:03 as John also taught his disciples. 44:05 And Jesus said to him, 44:07 "After this manner, therefore pray, 44:09 our Father, which art in heaven." 44:12 You know that, 44:13 that's an endearing term to say our Father, 44:16 which art in heaven, and He wants us to understand 44:20 I am your Father, you are My children. 44:24 And I see God loving us so much 44:27 and providing for us and it's such a wonderful thing 44:33 to realize that, you know, we... 44:36 He twice tried to help us understand, 44:39 you are not alone. 44:41 I will be with you always even to the end of the world. 44:43 I will supply your needs. You are My children. 44:46 Ask and you will receive 44:48 and ask that you join me before, you know. 44:52 And so, we have great privileges, 44:55 great opportunities. 44:57 And I do remember this little story 45:01 somewhere reading in, 45:03 and there was this little boy on this hill. 45:06 And there was this ship out there, 45:08 this boat and he was calling over there, 45:11 like, come here like come here and somebody was watching him, 45:14 he says, "Little boy, don't you know that 45:19 they don't have time to be stopping for every little boy 45:22 that is waving at them." 45:25 And soon that boat started turning 45:28 come in this way coming towards him 45:30 and the person is amazed and stayed there watching, 45:35 wandering, is this boat really coming this way 45:37 for this child and the boy ran too close to the water. 45:42 And then he said, "Dad, dad, dad." 45:44 The captain was his father. 45:46 When he saw his son calling for him, 45:48 he said "Yes, I'm going to my son." 45:51 And that is the way God is, you know, 45:54 we can call upon Him anytime 45:57 and He is listening attentive 46:00 and becoming a father, 46:04 you know, you learn many things, 46:06 I say, you know, 46:07 I'm going to learn more about God by having children. 46:10 So I remember times when as when they were little, 46:15 even now I recognize their voice 46:16 when they were little. 46:17 And they were playing 46:19 and we were talking with other people, 46:21 all of a sudden you hear a bang and a cry, you know, you know, 46:26 it was your child, then you run over there 46:28 to help out, see what's going on. 46:30 And so the same way, you know, 46:33 God can pick us out among the millions 46:36 and know it's you, the moment you start saying, 46:40 my Father which art... 46:42 Oh, that's my child. He knows us by name. 46:45 And that's what God wants to communicate to us. 46:48 You may remember Dr. Meshach Samuel, 46:50 I'm sure you do. 46:51 You didn't meet him. 46:53 But anyway, when he was coming 46:54 to the Thompsonville Church, 46:56 he said something that I remember and he said it, 46:59 you know, in India, I don't know 47:01 if there are millions and millions of so called gods, 47:05 including trees and animals 47:07 that they deemed them as God. 47:11 But he says in all of those ideas 47:14 and concepts of God, 47:16 they don't have what Christianity has, 47:19 and that is that God is our father, 47:22 and that we can have a relationship with Him. 47:25 You know, I look at our Heavenly Father, 47:27 and, you know, 47:30 there's, I don't know if you've ever thought it, 47:31 but I think how, what are the characteristics? 47:34 What are the ways that I can grow to, you know, 47:40 be or have that characteristics of God 47:43 and when you look at some of the things 47:45 in Galatians 5:22 and 23, you know, 47:50 it kind of gives like the roadmap 47:52 of our Heavenly Father, and how good He is 47:57 and you know, when you look at the fruits 47:59 of the Spirit in 22, it says, this, 48:03 the fruits of the Spirit is love, joy, peace, 48:06 long suffering, goodness, kindness, 48:08 faithfulness, gentleness and self control. 48:12 And I look at being an heir of God. 48:15 And you think, 48:17 well, these are some of the attributes 48:19 of being an heir of God. 48:21 Amen. 48:22 And when you look at 48:23 these attributes, I mean, of course, 48:25 love is basically the foundation of everything. 48:28 Without love, there's nothing and how it shows that God is 48:34 joy, God is peace and long suffering. 48:37 And it builds an understanding of the character 48:40 and how God thinks and looks at things 48:44 and His attributes, and how, 48:47 when I look at my life, I'm like, 48:49 wow, there's some things in there 48:51 that I think I need to work on and I really need His help. 48:55 But, you know, that's part of like climbing that ladder 48:59 of growing with the Lord and understanding 49:03 and being part of His kingdom and being that heir, 49:07 but without acknowledging Jesus as our Savior, 49:12 all this is meaningless unless we accept Jesus. 49:16 But then we have this roadmap on the character 49:20 that God wants us to have. 49:22 And to be that light in a time that we're living in, 49:26 that there's lots of things going on, 49:28 there's a lot of pain, there's a lot of suffering, 49:31 there's things that people do to each other. 49:34 And then you look at the character of God 49:36 and you're like, 49:37 "Wow, this is totally different than what's going on." 49:40 Yes. Amen. 49:42 So thank you very much. 49:44 You know, it's interesting there that verse 26, 49:47 the last verse in Galatians 5. 49:51 It says, "Let us not become conceited, 49:53 provoking one another, envying one another." 49:56 And that's what happened to Lucifer. 50:00 He became conceited and envious. 50:04 And there was that God gave, gives us freedom of choice. 50:09 We can choose to be happy 50:11 and have salvation through Jesus Christ, 50:13 or you can also choose to be lost. 50:15 And God wants us to be happy. 50:18 And the scriptures, so many scriptures 50:21 that come to mind. 50:22 And there is 2 Peter Chapter 3, 50:25 "God is not willing that any should perish." 50:29 You know, you ask a mother or a father. 50:31 Okay, which one of your children 50:33 are you willing to lose? 50:34 Which one are you willing to give up? 50:36 No, none. They're all precious. 50:39 You love them all. You don't want to give up one! 50:43 And so this is God. 50:45 God is not willing that any should perish, 50:47 but that all should come to repentance 50:49 and become His children. 50:50 I see the time has escaped us. 50:53 And we're going to start where we started. 50:55 I mean, yeah, we're going to start again 50:57 where we started with Sister Francine, 50:58 and we're going to go 50:59 each one by one to share something 51:01 as a final comment because our time is running. 51:04 Anything final you would like to say about 51:07 being sons and daughters of God, 51:08 perhaps even how you feel, 51:12 or some scripture that you would like to share? 51:16 For me, I'm just so thankful that 51:18 God deems us as valuable and wants us to be His sons, 51:22 His daughters for Him, and that 51:24 nothing we can do can separate us from God 51:27 if we allow Him to live in our hearts 51:29 and so it's, 51:34 I just think of John 15:12, 51:36 "My command is this, 51:38 love each other as I have loved you." 51:40 He has that unconditional love for each of us. 51:43 And so, just have that faith 51:45 that God wants you, He loves you. 51:48 Amen. Amen. 51:49 Jason? 51:50 So you know, I've been reflecting 51:52 on the character of God a lot. 51:54 And I was looking at this 51:57 and I'm so grateful that God loves us even though 52:01 we're really not worthy of love, 52:04 except through Jesus Christ 52:05 and our Heavenly Father and Jesus wanting us 52:10 to be a part of Him. 52:12 And He, when you look at 52:14 how He's the kindness and the goodness 52:16 and how He wants to build that relationship, 52:19 and how, you know, in Exodus 20, 52:22 it talks about the Ten Commandments and how, 52:25 you know, the first three, you know, 52:27 talks about how our relationship with Him 52:30 and being a jealous God. 52:31 I'm so glad He's a jealous God, that He loves us so much that 52:36 He put everything on the line for me, for you. 52:40 And then the last six verse 52:43 talking about the relationships, 52:45 you know, as brothers and sisters, 52:47 how do we grow together, 52:49 some of the things we should not do, 52:51 some of the things we should do, 52:53 and then the Sabbath that kind of brings it 52:55 all together, the fourth commandment, 52:56 and how we, you know, 52:58 God has given us this plan of salvation. 53:01 And this law that I used to think that, wow, 53:03 the Ten Commandments or this law 53:05 was a terrible thing 53:06 and attaining the character of God was difficult. 53:09 But then the more you look at the refining that 53:12 God does in our lives, He gives us that 53:15 ability only through prayer and studying the Word 53:19 and understanding the Lord more and focusing on 53:22 what He wants us to do. 53:24 So it's just an awesome that He's willing to work with, 53:27 even me. 53:28 That law wasn't necessary 53:30 only because we broke right the relationship, 53:34 then God brought that the laws, the Ten Commandments. 53:37 Amen. Thank you so much. Sister Nancy? 53:41 I think the thing that has touched me 53:43 the most is that God is a personal God. 53:46 He wants us to come to Him on a intimate basis. 53:51 And that scripture that I had read where it says, 53:55 and this is Galatians 4:5, "Because you are sons, 53:59 God send forth the Spirit of His Son 54:01 into our hearts crying out, 'Abba, Father.'" 54:04 Well, Abba is like, today we would say, daddy, you know, 54:08 that's what He wants us 54:10 to have that relationship with Him 54:14 is on a personal intimate level. 54:17 I mean, He's God, He's Almighty God 54:18 and yet He wants that. 54:20 Amen. Amen. 54:22 Joe? 54:24 We were made in the image of God 54:25 and we were keeping His commandments 54:27 and everything was right. 54:30 And in John 14, he says, 54:33 "He that keep my commandments, my commandments and keep... 54:37 He that hath my commandments and keepeth them." 54:40 So he's qualifying it. 54:41 Come home, get back where you used to be, 54:44 "And he it is that loves me, 54:48 and he that loves me shall be loved of My Father, 54:53 and I will love him." 54:55 It's a big family reunion of love, 54:59 but the commandments are the qualifier. 55:01 If you love Me, keep My commandments. 55:05 Amen. Thank you so much. 55:06 And we have good news to end with in Revelation Chapter 21. 55:11 And we like to begin in verse 1, 55:13 Revelation 21. 55:16 "Now I saw a new heaven and the new earth, 55:21 for the first heaven, 55:23 and the first earth had passed away. 55:26 Also there was no more sea. 55:28 Then, I, John saw the Holy City, 55:32 New Jerusalem, coming down out of heaven, 55:35 from God, prepared as a bride adorned 55:39 for her husband. 55:41 And I heard a loud voice from heaven saying, 55:43 'Behold, the tabernacle of God is with men, 55:48 and he will do well with them, 55:49 and they shall be his people. 55:52 God himself will be with them and be their God. 55:55 And God will wipe away every tear from their eyes 55:59 and they shall be no more death, nor sorrow, 56:03 nor crying, there shall be no more pain, 56:06 for the former things have passed away." 56:10 Praise God. 56:12 A glorious future, a wonderful blessing 56:15 is waiting in store for each and every one of us. 56:18 And so, I would like to encourage you, 56:20 if you have not joined the family, 56:23 join the family, make a decision to be a child, 56:27 a son, a daughter of God, 56:30 because He longs for you to be a part of His family. 56:34 And God is waiting for your decision. 56:38 And I hope you'll make it today, right now. 56:41 And so as we end, I like to thank Francine, 56:46 Jason Bergmann's and Nancy O'Brien, 56:50 and Joe O' Brien, thank you so much 56:51 for your participation and sharing. 56:53 And, of course, 56:55 we from our family to your family, 56:56 we want to thank you for joining us 56:58 and being a part of Family Worship. 57:00 We welcome your prayers. 57:03 And we thank you for your financial support 57:04 that makes possible bringing programs like this one 57:07 and others to help the people 57:10 prepare for the coming of Jesus Christ 57:12 when He will redeem us and join us together 57:17 and that we can have fellowship with Him and with one another. 57:20 And like we read, no pain, no sorrow, no sin, nor death. 57:25 Wonderful future for us. 57:27 So, I end with give your heart to the Lord Jesus Christ 57:30 and you will have joy, happiness and peace 57:33 that begins in this world and continues forever. 57:35 God bless you. |
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