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00:00 >> If you had to say
00:01 goodbye to her 00:02 for a little while, 00:04 but in the end, everthing was 00:06 going to be okay, 00:08 would that be all right 00:09 with you? 00:11 That question was 00:14 deep. 00:15 It was thought provoking, 00:18 but it was also reassuring. 00:22 [theme music] 00:25 ♪♪ 00:59 [calm music] 01:02 ♪♪ 01:05 >> Welcome to 01:05 It Is Written Canada. 01:06 Thank you for joining us. 01:07 Some losses in life 01:09 are self-inflicted, 01:10 and some losses come 01:12 at us unexpectedly. 01:14 What do we do 01:16 when we are faced with the loss 01:18 of a loved one? 01:20 When life is totally 01:22 out of control? 01:24 What do we need to know 01:25 about God at times like these? 01:30 >> Why does He choose 01:31 to not answer prayer sometimes? 01:34 And how do we handle 01:35 the loss of a child 01:37 when we stand helplessly by? 01:39 What does God want us to know 01:42 about Him 01:43 at times like these? 01:46 Today on It Is Written Canada, 01:47 our special guest is 01:49 Pastor Bill Spangler, who knows 01:51 all about loss. 01:52 He has led churches 01:54 in the maritime provinces, 01:56 British Columbia and Alberta, 01:58 retiring from ministry 01:59 in 2020. 02:02 He has a bachelor's degree of 02:04 theology and a master's degree 02:07 in divinity, and has trained 02:09 and is certified 02:11 as a family mediator 02:13 and life coach. 02:15 >> Bill is married to 02:16 Gwen Yosako and they are parents 02:18 to two daughters 02:20 and enjoy two grandchildren. 02:22 and enjoy two grandchildren. 02:23 Bill is the author of the book 02:25 Lessons From the Wilderness, 02:27 a catalog of life's lessons 02:29 that are useful to anyone 02:31 seeking personal growth and 02:34 skills for making relationships 02:35 skills for making relationships 02:36 work. 02:38 >> Bill, thank you for 02:39 joining us on 02:40 It Is Written Canada today. 02:42 >> It's my privilege 02:43 to be here again. 02:44 Thank you for inviting me. 02:46 >> Pastor Bill, in your book, 02:48 you speak about 02:50 different losses 02:51 that you experienced throughout 02:53 your wilderness journey. 02:55 Can you tell us about 02:57 a loss that you suffered 02:59 that had nothing to do with 03:01 you causing it? 03:04 >> Yeah, the sad reality of 03:05 life on planet Earth is that 03:07 we all deal with loss. 03:10 Loss comes unexpectedly, 03:12 abruptly. 03:14 Sometimes we see it coming 03:15 and we can't stop it. 03:18 And so losses come in a 03:19 variety of things. 03:21 And so I think it's a good topic 03:22 to talk about. 03:25 I was fortunate, we were 03:27 fortunate enough to have 03:28 two girls. 03:30 Like every family, we─ 03:33 pastor's family, we moved around 03:34 a bit and they had to face... 03:38 ...changing schools and 03:39 changing homes, and─ 03:41 but they weathered it well. 03:42 They were great. 03:44 And as they got older and 03:46 graduated from high school, 03:47 went on to college, 03:49 Karen became, 03:51 our younger daughter, 03:52 became a graphic design artist. 03:55 And Kristen, our older daughter, 03:58 went to school to become a nurse 04:00 and spent time 04:02 working with children 04:04 in hospital at 04:05 Loma Linda, California, 04:07 and then moved to 04:08 and then moved to 04:09 Seattle, Washington, 04:10 where she was a nurse at the 04:13 Seattle Children's Hospital. 04:15 She did a lot of IV therapy. 04:18 She was a specialist at that. 04:19 She was a specialist at that. 04:20 And they would call her to do 04:23 IVs on little preemie babies. 04:27 And... 04:28 ...one woman described it as 04:30 Kristen could put 04:31 an IV into a rock if she had to. 04:34 She was just an expert 04:36 at finding those 04:37 tiny little veins and 04:39 make it work and 04:40 I heard good stories about 04:43 some of the work that she did. 04:46 So as life 04:47 goes along, 04:49 one day, we woke up 04:51 to a new reality. 04:54 She had some tests done 04:56 for something that was 04:57 a concern to her 04:59 and came to the hotel 05:01 where we were staying in Seattle 05:03 and announced that, 05:05 "The test didn't go well. 05:07 I have more tests 05:08 this afternoon. 05:12 But it doesn't look good." 05:14 So we waited around 05:15 for the next 24 hours 05:17 to see what would happen. 05:18 And she... 05:21 ...came the next morning 05:22 as a result of 05:23 getting those test results 05:25 and... 05:28 ...she told us that, 05:29 "I have stage four cancer." 05:33 And, of course, none of us were 05:34 prepared for that. 05:36 That was in August of 2018. 05:39 We didn't know what that meant. 05:40 We didn't know where it went 05:42 from there. 05:43 We didn't know what 05:44 the future held or anything. 05:45 It was just all so fresh. 05:48 But the first day when she came 05:50 and told us that 05:53 the test didn't go well, 05:54 I have more tests to take 05:56 this afternoon, 05:57 at that very same time, in the 05:59 middle of that conversation, 06:01 I had a 06:03 thought go through my mind 06:04 that I don't know that 06:06 it was a voice, 06:08 but it was such a 06:09 clear, ringing message that I 06:10 take it that it was from God. 06:12 I immediately felt it was 06:13 God speaking to me. 06:16 And the message was this: 06:18 "You've been praying 06:19 for this girl. 06:21 Trust Me. 06:22 I've got this." 06:24 That was the 06:26 clear, clear sentence 06:28 in my mind. 06:30 So I didn't know 06:31 if that "I've got this" message 06:34 was, "I'm going to heal her..." 06:38 ...or if the message was, 06:40 "I've got this," meaning 06:43 "Don't worry. 06:44 Everything is in My control." 06:48 So I took courage from that 06:50 that I shared with the family 06:52 immediately afterwards. 06:53 I said, "I just feel 06:55 very strongly to tell you this. 06:58 So let's find out 06:59 where this goes." 07:02 So three weeks later, 07:03 I was back in Seattle 07:06 for her first... 07:09 ...chemo infusion. 07:11 I stayed around with her 07:12 for a couple days to make sure 07:14 that she was okay. 07:16 And we went for a lunch 07:18 before I got on the airplane 07:19 to go home and had a 07:21 great, great chat, 07:23 just about 07:25 reality of life and... 07:29 ...she was so optimistic. 07:31 "I'm going to beat this. 07:33 Everything is going to be 07:34 good because I'm going to 07:35 do what it takes to beat this. 07:37 I'm going to be 07:38 a cancer survivor," 07:39 was her message. 07:41 And we sat in the window of a 07:42 little cafe that she liked and 07:44 watched people on the street 07:46 and she was just very 07:48 philosophical about life and... 07:52 ...you know, she's facing 07:53 the battle of her 07:54 whole journey. 07:55 And she pointed to a lady 07:58 on the street. 07:59 I still distinctly 08:00 remember this. 08:01 And that lady was struggling 08:03 with something, 08:05 a health issue of some kind, 08:06 and she said, 08:08 "I have no right 08:10 to judge that lady. 08:11 I don't know her story. 08:13 I just need to love people. 08:15 I need to love her, too." 08:17 And that was her message 08:18 that was awakening within her. 08:22 So she took all the treatment 08:23 that she was scheduled to take. 08:26 She changed her lifestyle. 08:28 She did everything 08:29 that she could to 08:31 take care of her health. 08:34 As I said, that was in August. 08:37 At Christmas time, we were 08:38 all together and she said, 08:40 "Let's not spend money on 08:42 ourselves this Christmas. 08:43 Let's make memories. 08:44 Let's do something for 08:45 somebody else." 08:47 She was just in a whole new 08:49 She was just in a whole new 08:49 space of life and wanted to 08:52 do what we could to... 08:56 ...connect as a family 08:57 and be together. 08:58 She had a good spirit 08:59 about it all, she... 09:02 ...she was struggling, 09:03 but I didn't know it. 09:05 If she cried herself to sleep 09:07 at night, I didn't know that. 09:09 Because with me, with all of us, 09:11 she was always as optimistic as 09:14 she could possibly be. 09:15 Some days were harder than 09:16 others, sure, but 09:17 she had a good spirit. 09:20 But the sad story is that 09:22 13 months after her diagnosis, 09:24 she passed away. 09:27 September of 2019. 09:30 And we were left to 09:33 deal with that. 09:35 Another incident that happened 09:38 about a month before she 09:39 passed away. 09:41 I was awake in the night 09:42 and I was thinking about her, 09:44 of course, and I 09:45 was praying about it and 09:48 another clear message, 09:49 sort of the same as 09:50 the first one, it was just 09:51 a thought that was so 09:52 ringing clear that I knew 09:54 it wasn't from me, 09:56 but I don't know 09:57 that it was a voice. 09:58 It was just so clear. 10:00 And the question was, 10:03 If you had to say goodbye to her 10:05 for a little while, 10:07 but in the end, everything was 10:09 going to be okay, 10:11 would that be all right 10:12 with you? 10:14 And in the context 10:15 of everything, 10:17 that question was 10:19 deep... 10:21 ...it was thought provoking, 10:23 but it was also reassuring. 10:27 I took from that that 10:29 we may lose her here... 10:32 ...but that it's going to be 10:34 okay in the end. 10:36 And so are you 10:38 able to 10:40 see that on the other side, 10:43 and if you have to 10:45 experience the loss of her 10:47 for a little while, 10:49 could you be peaceful 10:50 about that? 10:53 There was a song that 10:54 came to me during 10:57 her sickness. 10:58 She loved music and she was 11:00 always sending us, 11:01 "Listen to this song, 11:02 listen to this song." 11:03 And it was always some 11:05 uplifting about her 11:08 walk with the Lord and 11:10 this song came to me 11:12 one night I was awake and 11:14 searching for music, 11:15 and I found a song called 11:18 "Even If." 11:19 And it brought me such courage 11:22 because it was a question─ 11:24 sorry, it was not a question, 11:25 it was a statement of... 11:29 ...somebody saying, 11:31 "Lord, I want You to do this. 11:33 I need You to do this. 11:35 But even if You don't, 11:37 my hope is still 11:39 only in You. 11:40 That's the only place I have." 11:42 And... 11:44 ...so when I heard that 11:46 question, if you had to 11:47 give her up for a little while, 11:49 but in the end, everything was 11:51 going to be okay, would that be 11:53 all right with you? 11:55 That song just blends so nicely 11:57 with that question, that 12:00 I can't control everything, 12:02 but even if You don't 12:04 come through and do the things 12:05 that I want You to do, 12:07 I still can only 12:09 cling to You. 12:10 I can still only 12:12 hang onto You. 12:13 So she... 12:16 ...passed away at 12:17 40 years of age. 12:19 Not long before she passed away, 12:20 she said... 12:23 "I always hoped that, 12:24 of course, that I would get more 12:26 years, 60s and 70s, at least. 12:30 I guess I'm only gonna get 12:31 about 40. 12:33 But I have watched 12:35 kids pass away at ten." 12:38 And so her work with children... 12:42 ...saw loss as 12:45 families went through that 12:46 experience with their children. 12:48 She was aware of those things. 12:51 She was a nurse with feelings, 12:53 but she also had strength. 12:56 And she did her work well. 12:58 And so she sort of took it 13:01 philosophically like 13:03 this is my story, 13:05 and I get 40 years. 13:07 Well, we continued to hope, 13:08 of course, 13:10 that something would change. 13:12 In fact, I still remember even 13:15 the morning 13:16 or the noon, she passed away 13:17 at noon. 13:18 That morning 13:20 I was thinking... 13:23 ...That door could open 13:25 into this hospital room 13:27 and a doctor that we've 13:28 never seen before could come in 13:30 and take her by the hand 13:32 and say, "Little girl, 13:33 get up," 13:35 just like Jesus did. 13:38 I'm saying that that would be 13:39 Jesus. 13:40 He could come in 13:41 and do that if He chose to. 13:44 And I was hoping that He would. 13:48 But it didn't happen. 13:49 And she went to sleep. 13:53 So there's a loss that 13:55 we had no control over. 13:58 We just had to deal with it. 14:00 We just had to work with it. 14:02 And... 14:03 ...I recognize that 14:06 I'm not the first father 14:07 or we weren't the first parents 14:08 to lose a child, 14:10 and we won't be the last. 14:11 And it's life on planet Earth. 14:14 It's existing here 14:16 where we don't wanna be 14:18 in a place where we have to 14:20 go to hospitals like that, 14:22 or go to graveyards or 14:24 say goodbye when we don't─ 14:25 when we're not ready to. 14:26 It's not fair, 14:28 but it is what it is. 14:31 And so... 14:33 ...finding strength 14:34 in God that... 14:36 ...even if 14:38 it doesn't change, 14:39 I still cling to You. 14:41 That's what we're left with. 14:43 And that's what's given us 14:44 a hope and a strength. 14:49 >> Bill, I'm so sorry. 14:50 It's very─ 14:51 death is very painful. 14:53 And... 14:54 ...I know it was very hard 14:56 for me because I lost my dad 14:58 last year in August. 15:01 And... 15:03 ...I had to see my mom, 15:04 you know, go through the 15:05 grieving process. 15:07 And I spoke to someone 15:08 and they said, "You know, when 15:10 you lose a spouse, 15:12 it's almost like you have to 15:14 rewrite your future 15:16 because you were looking 15:17 forward to spending 15:18 your future together." 15:19 So you have to change and, 15:21 you know, navigate a new future. 15:24 And then for those of us 15:26 who have lost parents, 15:28 it's like a part of your 15:30 past is gone, 15:32 you know, because they were 15:33 so much a part of your past. 15:35 But when you lose a child, 15:37 it's so painful because 15:40 now your future 15:42 and your past is gone, 15:43 you know? 15:45 And so it's very, very painful. 15:47 >> It's just not right. 15:50 It's not the way it was ever 15:51 designed to be. 15:52 >> Yeah, mm-hmmm. 15:54 But like you said, 15:55 we have hope that 15:58 we're gonna be together again. 16:01 >> Yeah. 16:01 So, René, those two statements, 16:04 "You've been praying for this. 16:06 Trust me, I've got this." 16:09 "If you have to say goodbye 16:10 for a little while, 16:11 but everything's gonna be okay. 16:13 Would that be okay?" 16:14 Those two things 16:15 go together to me, 16:17 telling me that God is saying... 16:20 "...I know what you're gonna 16:21 go through, but hang on. 16:22 I've got this. 16:23 Even if... 16:25 I've got this. 16:26 Everything is in My hands." 16:31 >> Thank you Bill, so... 16:34 ...in your book, 16:36 you speak about, 16:37 you know, when we 16:38 experience these losses 16:40 and on this wilderness journey, 16:42 there's some days that 16:44 are really dark 16:46 and some days are less dark, 16:48 and some days are good 16:50 and some days are not so good. 16:52 How did you navigate 16:54 all those changes, 16:56 the ups and downs 16:57 and the roller coaster? 17:00 >> Well, 17:02 René, for me, 17:03 understanding the big picture 17:06 of where... 17:09 ...God is and God's plan 17:11 for this world and the fact that 17:12 we're completely off track is 17:14 what keeps me grounded, 17:16 in that He had a plan, 17:17 and He has a plan, 17:20 and we're on a detour 17:22 of His original plan. 17:26 So many philosophical 17:29 or spiritual journeys 17:32 are a quest for 17:33 how to find God. 17:35 "I gotta do this. 17:37 I have to do this. 17:38 I have to go here. 17:39 I have to do these checklists, 17:42 so that I can find God," 17:44 whereas the Bible tells 17:46 the story of God coming 17:47 to find us 17:49 and to be with us. 17:50 In fact, the Bible says that 17:52 He became flesh and 17:54 dwelt among us. 17:55 Or in some more modern versions 17:58 of the Bible, it says 17:59 He made His home with us. 18:02 So He's telling us by that 18:04 that I know you're going through 18:06 hard times. 18:07 I know that there's grief. 18:09 I know this isn't the way 18:10 I wanted it or you want it, 18:13 but I'm not gonna let you 18:14 do it alone. 18:15 I'm gonna come and be with you. 18:17 So He came to this world 18:19 and He put on flesh, 18:21 and He walked among us, 18:22 and He got tired, and He got 18:23 sleepy, and He got hungry, 18:25 and He was bullied, 18:27 and He was... 18:29 ...harassed and 18:30 all the things that 18:32 go through life. 18:33 And His loved ones died. 18:36 And He saw friends that 18:38 their loved ones died 18:39 and He experienced death. 18:42 So He knows what we're 18:43 going through. 18:44 And He's saying, 18:45 "You're not gonna do this alone. 18:47 I'm here. 18:49 I'm with you. 18:50 I get it." 18:52 And... 18:53 ...He resurrected 18:55 some people. 18:56 Not everybody that died, 18:58 but He resurrected some. 19:00 Which tells us, 19:01 "I have the ability to do that. 19:04 So when I promise you 19:05 that your girl will come back," 19:07 He's not saying, 19:09 "You can hope that I'm 19:10 strong enough to do this." 19:11 He's already proved that 19:12 He is strong enough to do that. 19:16 And so 19:18 I journey through 19:20 this part of 19:21 our lives 19:23 with a courage and a strength 19:25 that Jesus identifies with me. 19:29 He's not asking me to come to 19:30 heaven and find Him, 19:31 He came from heaven to earth 19:33 to show Himself and to 19:36 give Himself and to say, 19:38 "Bill, trust Me, 19:40 I've got this." 19:42 That's what has given me 19:44 a strength beyond anything else. 19:46 And I think also 19:48 I've already 19:49 sort of touched on it, but 19:51 if we can step back from 19:54 the graveside of our loved ones 19:56 or the hospital bed of our 19:57 loved ones, and instead of 20:00 shaking our fist at God 20:01 and saying, "Why don't You 20:03 hear my prayer?" 20:06 step back one step and say, 20:08 "It's bigger than me. 20:09 It's bigger than my family. 20:12 It's bigger than my Kristen. 20:14 It's... 20:15 It's a world gone wrong. 20:18 It's a... 20:20 ...chaotic mess here. 20:22 And He's going to fix it." 20:25 So He told a parable of a... 20:29 ...a man who planted seeds 20:30 in his field, 20:31 and his friends came and said, 20:33 "I thought you planted 20:34 good seeds in your field." 20:35 "Well, I did." 20:37 "Well, there's weeds coming up." 20:39 And he said, 20:41 "An enemy did this." 20:44 So when He created the world, 20:45 He created it perfect, 20:46 He created it for... 20:49 ...for us to live forever, 20:50 to never see death, 20:52 to never see cancer, 20:53 to never see crash, 20:55 to never see any disease. 20:59 But an enemy came and deceived 21:01 and got us going on 21:03 the wrong direction. 21:06 And, so they said, "Well, 21:07 should we pull the weeds out?" 21:09 "No, let them grow 21:11 till the end, and in the end, 21:12 we're gonna put the weeds 21:13 in one place 21:14 and the wheat in another place, 21:16 and then everything will be 21:18 separated forever." 21:20 So I'm, we are, 21:23 all of us, 21:24 waiting for that day 21:26 when one day 21:27 it's going to be all over. 21:29 But in the meantime, 21:31 there may be another trip 21:32 to a graveyard. 21:34 There may be another trip 21:35 to a hospital. 21:38 We don't know, we don't know. 21:41 Our our greatest strength 21:43 would be to just to hang on 21:44 to the one who said, 21:46 "Trust Me, 21:47 I've got this." 21:49 That's what I think 21:50 the message for us that Jesus 21:53 wanted to bring to us is, 21:54 "I'm with you. 21:55 It's not easy. 21:57 There's gonna be tears. 21:59 I'm with you. 22:00 But one day 22:02 all tears will be wiped away." 22:04 And we just wait for that. 22:07 >> Thank you, Bill. 22:08 This grief and this 22:10 sorrow, it goes on, 22:12 and we're in this 22:13 wilderness experience. 22:15 Does it ever come to an end? 22:16 And when do we know 22:18 that it's come to an end? 22:20 >> Yeah. 22:21 My personal 22:22 wilderness journey... 22:24 ...I don't know 22:25 when it comes to an end. 22:26 I... 22:28 ...entered this, due to 22:30 experiences in my life, 22:31 I'm going, navigating not quite 22:34 the life I expected 22:35 and wanted, chose, 22:36 but by choices, 22:39 I ended up where 22:41 I'm learning these lessons that 22:43 I'm experiencing. 22:45 I don't know when that actually 22:46 ends, because I think that 22:48 we are all learning lessons 22:50 all the time 22:52 from everything that we... 22:55 ...experience. 22:57 Moses had a distinct end to his. 22:59 God came to him 23:00 at a burning bush and said, 23:02 "I have a job for you to do and 23:03 it's not here in the wilderness. 23:04 Go to Egypt." 23:06 And he... 23:08 ...wasn't sure that that was 23:09 what he wanted to do 23:10 at that point, but... 23:12 ...that was a distinct end 23:14 to his. 23:15 I'm not sure 23:16 where the distinct end 23:17 to my journey is, 23:19 but I know that for all of us, 23:21 for you, for your family, 23:22 for everyone watching, 23:24 for everyone in the world, 23:27 the wilderness of planet Earth 23:30 will come to an end. 23:31 Jesus promised that, "I will 23:34 come again and I will 23:36 receive you unto Myself." 23:38 And the Bible tells us 23:40 happily that 23:42 there is a new place, 23:44 a new future, 23:45 and we will put on immortality, 23:48 and we will live forever. 23:50 So we enter this 23:53 journey of 23:55 life on planet Earth 23:57 not being the way we wanted it, 23:59 but there is an end to that. 24:00 So that's the ultimate end 24:02 to it all. 24:03 I'd like to think that 24:04 there would be a day when we 24:05 get to a certain age where 24:07 all pain goes away. 24:09 But I am not sure that 24:11 that's realistic. 24:13 >> Thank you for that. 24:14 Any final thoughts 24:16 that you have for 24:17 our viewers 24:19 regarding those who may be 24:21 right now going through grief 24:22 and loss. 24:24 What would you say to them? 24:25 >> I would say two things. 24:27 Number one, God sees you. 24:30 He knows you. 24:31 He knows what you're 24:32 experiencing. 24:33 I like to say He knows your DNA, 24:36 and He knows your address, 24:38 and He knows your feelings, 24:39 and He knows your emotions. 24:42 And He says, "I get it." 24:44 I went there to be with you. 24:46 I journeyed 24:48 that journey with you, 24:50 and I'm still with you today." 24:52 That's one thing, 24:53 that you are not alone. 24:55 And then secondly, 24:56 "I have a plan," God says, 24:58 "I have a plan. 24:59 One day 25:01 it's all gonna be behind us, 25:02 and it'll be only the future, 25:04 and we'll look back and think, 25:06 "Well, here we are. 25:07 I guess that chapter is over 25:09 and this is the new one. 25:10 Let's continue and keep going." 25:13 So both ways, God gives us hope. 25:15 I'm with you 25:17 and it's going to get better. 25:19 >> Thank you. 25:21 >> Thank you so much 25:22 for that, Bill. 25:23 So we have come to 25:25 the end of our program 25:27 with you, but before we 25:29 let you go, I wonder if you 25:31 could pray for our viewers? 25:33 There may be someone 25:34 who is experiencing pain, 25:37 who is grieving a loss, who... 25:41 ...has a loved one that is sick 25:43 and that is not doing well. 25:44 So could you please 25:46 pray for them? 25:47 >> I will. 25:48 Father in heaven, thank You 25:49 so much that 25:51 when we go through dark moments, 25:54 wilderness valleys, 25:56 that we don't do it 25:58 by ourselves. 26:00 You are a God who loves to... 26:03 ...be with... 26:06 ...dwell among us, 26:08 experience what we experience... 26:11 ...and assure us that 26:13 we are not alone. 26:14 So to anyone today 26:16 who doesn't know how to get up 26:18 in the morning because of loss 26:19 and because of fear and 26:22 because of grief, 26:24 I just pray for a measure of 26:25 strength from Your hand to them 26:27 that they will be able to say, 26:30 "Even if it doesn't work out 26:32 or hasn't worked out 26:34 the way I want, 26:36 my hope is still in You 26:37 because You are the one that's 26:38 going to bring an end to this. 26:40 We pray, Father, that that day 26:42 would be sooner than later. 26:43 We are tired. 26:45 We are ready to be with You. 26:46 May it happen soon. 26:48 Thank You for the promise. 26:49 In Jesus' name, amen. 26:51 >> Amen, amen. 26:53 Bill, thank you once again 26:55 for joining us on 26:56 It Is Written Canada. 26:58 >> My pleasure to be here. 27:03 >> Friends, whenever life 27:04 doesn't make sense or you're 27:06 feeling down and discouraged 27:09 or even overwhelmed with grief, 27:11 we recommend and you pick up 27:13 this little book, 27:15 Help In Daily Living. 27:18 >> If you're feeling like 27:19 the wheels are falling off 27:22 and your life is 27:23 becoming unglued, 27:24 or if your wheels are 27:25 simply spinning and you're 27:27 not getting anywhere, 27:28 you will find solutions 27:30 in this little book, 27:32 our free offer, 27:33 Help In Daily Living. 27:36 >> Before you go, 27:37 we would like to thank 27:39 all of you who have 27:40 supported the ministry of 27:42 It Is Written Canada 27:44 with your prayers and 27:45 financial contributions. 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