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00:03 male announcer: It is the best selling book in history. 00:05 No volume ever written has been more loved and quoted, and its 00:10 words, sometimes simple and sometimes mysterious, should 00:14 always be studied carefully. 00:16 It is the Bible, the Word of God. 00:19 Welcome to "Bible Answers Live," providing accurate and practical 00:24 answers to all your Bible questions. 00:28 This broadcast is a previously recorded episode. 00:31 To receive any of the Bible resources mentioned in this 00:34 broadcast, call 800-835-6747. 00:39 Once again, that's 800-835-6747. 00:44 Now, here's your host from Amazing Facts International, 00:48 Pastor Doug Batchelor. 00:50 Doug Batchelor: Hello, friends. 00:51 Welcome to "Bible Answers Live." 00:52 Would you like to hear an amazing fact? 00:55 Theodore Roosevelt, the 26th president, was probably among 00:59 the most remarkable US leaders. 01:02 After all, you don't get your head on Mount Rushmore without 01:04 a good reason. 01:06 Roosevelt came from a wealthy family, but his character was 01:09 forged through many difficult experiences. 01:12 His father, who he loved very much, died before he was 20. 01:16 Then Roosevelt survived the tragedy of losing his young wife 01:19 and his own mother to illness on the same day in 1884. 01:24 He survived malaria, exploring a tributary of the Amazon, and 01:28 a year hunting in the wilds of Africa. 01:30 He survived an extremely dangerous military charge in 01:33 Cuba in 1898, for which he won the Congressional Medal of 01:37 Honor, and he survived an assassination attempt in 1912 at 01:42 point blank range, and he went from the assassination attempt 01:45 bleeding, and delivered a speech. 01:48 In 1906, Roosevelt was the first president to win the Nobel Peace 01:51 Prize, persuading Japan and Russia to end a conflict. 01:55 Roosevelt had a virtually photographic memory. 01:58 Historians say he could recite long sections of poetry verbatim 02:03 over a decade after he read the passages. 02:06 Roosevelt was also a prolific writer, authoring 35 books, 02:10 including an autobiography, and writing an estimated 02:13 150,000 letters. 02:16 The president continued his hobby of boxing well into 02:19 his presidency. 02:21 Roosevelt was blind in one eye after a boxing injury in the 02:23 White House, so he switched to jiu-jitsu instead. 02:28 The popular teddy bear was named after President Theodore 02:31 Roosevelt because he refused to shoot an old bear. 02:35 Teddy Roosevelt is recognized as a key figure in creating the US 02:38 National Park System and was also the father of the modern 02:42 US Navy. 02:43 He sent the American Navy on a worldwide tour in 1907 as a show 02:47 of strength. 02:49 Probably his ultimate achievement was connecting the 02:51 eastern and western hemispheres by building the Panama Canal. 02:56 Even his opponents agreed he was a man of remarkable energy, 03:00 determination, and courage. 03:03 Now, he was not a perfect man, Pastor Ross. 03:06 I think his daughter said that he had a little bit of pride, 03:09 and he wanted to be the bride at every wedding and the corpse at 03:12 every funeral, the center of attention, but he was a very 03:16 brilliant man and a very courageous man. 03:19 He was somewhat fearless. 03:21 And you know, I think about when Moses was dying, he encouraged 03:25 Joshua to be courageous. 03:28 Leaders need courage. 03:29 Christians need courage in this day and age. 03:33 I think about the verse when God spoke to Joshua after Moses 03:36 died, and this is Joshua 1, verse 9. 03:39 Actually, you can read verse 5 through 9, 03:41 but this is just verse 9: "Have not I commanded you? 03:45 Be strong and of good courage; do not be afraid, or dismayed, 03:50 for the Lord your God is with you wherever you go." 03:53 What a wonderful promise. 03:54 Don't be afraid. 03:55 Jesus said, "I am with you to the end of the world." 03:58 Friends, maybe you are intimidated by the devil, 04:01 by sin, by friends that are not a good influence, and you'd like 04:04 more courage to stand for your convictions. 04:07 We've got a free offer that talks about that. 04:09 Jean Ross: We do. 04:10 The book that we have this evening that is our free gift to 04:12 anyone who calls and asks is called, "Compromise, Conformity, 04:15 and Courage: Biblical Principles for Living a Courageous 04:19 Christian Life." 04:20 If you'd like to receive that book, all you need to do is call 04:22 and ask. 04:24 The number is 800-835-6747. 04:26 That is our resource phone line. 04:28 Again, it's 800-835-6747. 04:31 Ask for the book, it's called, "Compromise, Conformity, 04:33 and Courage." 04:35 You can also dial #250 with your smartphone, say "Bible Answers 04:38 Live," and then you can ask for it that way as well. 04:42 Well, Pastor Doug, we've got a number of folks who are standing 04:44 by with their Bible questions, but before we go to the phone 04:47 lines, let's start with prayer. 04:49 Dear Father, we are so glad that we have this opportunity once 04:52 again to be able to study Your Word. 04:54 The Bible is truth, and Jesus said, "You shall know the truth, 04:57 and the truth will set you free." 04:59 Thank You, Father, for this opportunity to study together, 05:02 and we ask Your blessing in Jesus's name, amen. 05:05 Doug: Amen. 05:07 Jean: Our first caller this evening, we've got Glen and 05:09 Linda listening in Ohio. 05:10 Glen, Linda, welcome to "Bible Answers Live." 05:13 Glen: Thank you for taking my call and welcome from 05:16 Bethel, Ohio. 05:18 Doug: Thank you. 05:19 Glen: You know, there are those who believe that three, four, 05:22 maybe as many as five of the trumpets of Revelation have 05:26 already been blown, like the First World War and Second World 05:30 War, and Chernobyl, to mention a few. 05:33 But my question is, the trumpet of Matthew 24, the trumpet of 05:39 Thessalonians 4, and the seventh trumpet of Revelation, are they 05:45 the same trumpet? 05:46 That's my question. 05:47 Doug: Oh, okay. 05:49 Well, the trumpets that are spoken of in Matthew chapter 24 05:54 and in 1 Thessalonians is really talking about that trump that 05:58 calls forth the dead to life. 06:00 Now, the seven trumpets that you find in Revelation, they're-- 06:04 now, keep in mind, Revelation is a panorama of church history 06:08 from the First Coming, when the book is given, to the 06:11 Second Coming. 06:12 We're what we call historicists in our interpretation. 06:15 So you are correct that these trumpets have been being 06:19 fulfilled in segments of history. 06:23 Pastor Ross, yeah, one thing I've heard is, it's very 06:26 simplistic, but you've got a number of sevens in Revelation. 06:30 You've got seven churches, seven seals, seven trumpets, and 06:34 there's, of course seven plagues. 06:35 But the seven churches kind of give a religious history from 06:38 the First to the Second Coming. 06:40 The seven seals, more of a political history; and the seven 06:43 trumpets, something of a military history. 06:46 And so the last trumpet is the final battle where Christ comes. 06:51 Keep in mind seven trumpets were blown before Joshua took the 06:55 Promised Land, and as the seventh trumpet is blown, and 06:59 then Jesus, our Joshua, he comes and recaptures this world and 07:05 creates a new promised land, so to speak. 07:07 So, they are different, but I think you've just finished some 07:12 Daniel lessons, huh? 07:14 You have one on the trumpets. 07:15 Jean: We do, we do have some stuff on the trumpets. 07:18 Not available here yet, but really, you find the trumpets in 07:21 Daniel, sorry, Revelation chapter 8 and 9. 07:25 And as you mentioned, Pastor Doug, they do emphasize certain 07:27 issues of judgment or war. 07:29 And according to Bible prophecy in Revelation in particular, 07:32 we're living in that seventh trumpet even now with the 07:35 various current events, things happening in the world. 07:38 Under the seventh trump, but it says the nations were angry and 07:42 time of the dead that they should be judged, talks about 07:45 war and just anger. 07:48 Well, we see that all happening in our world today, and that 07:50 leads into Second Coming of Christ. 07:52 Doug: That's right. 07:53 Well, thank you so much, Glen and Linda. 07:56 And we appreciate your call. 07:57 Jean: We've got Elizabeth listening in Arizona. 07:59 Elizabeth, welcome to "Bible Answers Live." 08:01 You're on the air. 08:03 Elizabeth: Hi, my question concerns Malachi chapter 4, 08:07 verse 6. 08:08 This passage terrifies me. 08:12 Doug: Okay, let me read that for our friends. 08:14 I'm going to read 5 and 6 because they kind of 08:17 go together. 08:18 Well, verse 4 says: "Remember the law of Moses, which I 08:21 commanded him in Mount Horeb for all Israel, with the statutes of 08:24 judgment--the statutes and judgment. 08:26 Behold, I send you Elijah the prophet before the coming of the 08:29 great and dreadful day of the Lord." 08:30 Now let's stop there real quick. 08:32 Both these two characters, and this is the last chapter in the 08:36 last book of the Old Testament. 08:39 If you're in your Bibles and you turn the page, now you're in the 08:41 New Testament. 08:43 In the next book of Matthew, Mark, and Luke, Moses and Elijah 08:47 appear to Jesus on the Mount of Transfiguration when he's with 08:51 Peter, James, and John. 08:53 And Jesus said John the Baptist, to some extent, was 08:56 a fulfillment of a return of Elijah. 08:59 But he wasn't the final example. 09:01 He said Elijah will come, and Elijah has come. 09:05 So John was at least a partial fulfillment who paved the way 09:08 for a great revival. 09:09 But before the Lord comes again, it says, "He'll turn the hearts 09:13 of the fathers to the children," now in Malachi chapter 4, verse 09:16 6, "and the hearts of the children to the fathers, lest I 09:20 come and strike the earth with a curse." 09:23 Well, this is telling us that, for one thing, Jesus said in the 09:26 last days, the love of many will grow cold, and that means even 09:29 love in families where, you know, you see epidemic divorce 09:33 and a lot of families are growing up without the father. 09:37 The message of Elijah is going to bring revival and more 09:41 familial love into the home. 09:44 But it's beyond that when it says, "The hearts of the fathers 09:46 to the children," you know, that it seems like there's always 09:48 been a generation gap. 09:49 You can read about Plato and Aristotle talking about the 09:52 generation gap in their days. 09:54 So it seems like the older people that have a little more 09:57 wisdom, they just aren't able to connect with the younger, and 10:00 the younger think the older ones are stodgy and they're just 10:03 too slow. 10:05 But it's talking about the younger believing in the 10:08 teachings of the older, the younger people returning to the 10:12 faith of the fathers, and the fathers listening to the energy 10:17 of the younger. 10:18 So there's also that happening here. 10:20 He says, "Lest I come and strike the earth with a curse." 10:23 Well, don't let that frighten you. 10:25 We know that when Jesus comes, the dead in Christ are going 10:28 to rise, the righteous are caught up. 10:30 When the world is struck at the Second Coming, the saved don't 10:34 have to worry about that. 10:35 Jean: All right, thank you, Elizabeth. 10:37 We've got Alan in California. 10:38 Alan, welcome to "Bible Answers Live." 10:41 Alan: Good evening, gentlemen. 10:42 Calling from Bakersfield, California. 10:44 Doug: Thanks for calling. 10:45 Alan: All right, my question is regards Proverbs 13:22. 10:49 The back half of that says: "The wealth of the wicked is reserved 10:53 for the righteous." 10:54 Now, is the wealth obtained illegally or immorally or both, 10:59 or what's the wealth and who's the wicked? 11:02 Doug: Yeah, okay. 11:03 Well, wicked, of course, are anybody who is living a life of 11:07 rebellion against God and disobeying God, they're living 11:09 lives of sin. 11:11 And wicked is actually a word kind of reserved a little more 11:13 for those not struggling with temptation, but those who have 11:16 given over to it. 11:18 They have no problem stealing to get wealth or being unscrupulous 11:23 and--or grinding down, James talks about the rich who have 11:27 ground down the poor to get their riches and taken advantage 11:30 of people. 11:32 And so, people who accumulate wealth like that, they think 11:35 they're going to pass it on to their heritage, but often what 11:38 happens is, it's lost and the righteous somehow end up 11:42 getting it. 11:43 So, it's just saying that the posterity of the wicked, the 11:48 wealth does not go to them, those who have gotten it, 11:50 illegal gain, so to speak. 11:52 Jean: And I think it's also referring to the wise, those who 11:55 have wisdom, self-control, who plan, who organize, well, they 11:58 usually have something to leave to their children. 12:00 But those who are just living for self, it seems that they 12:03 squander their money and there's nothing left. 12:06 We've heard of all kinds of stories of people that have won 12:09 a tremendous amount of money, maybe they won the lottery 12:11 or something. 12:12 And in a few years, they're broke. 12:14 They've spent it all. 12:15 Doug: Or in debt. 12:17 Jean: They've just wasted away their money. 12:18 And I think that's the point that's being emphasized here 12:20 versus wisdom and just foolish selfishness. 12:23 All right, thank you, Alan. Quentin in Florida. 12:25 Quentin, welcome to "Bible Answers Live." 12:27 Quentin: Hello. Doug: Hi. 12:30 Quentin: Yes, I wanted to know if, in the Bible, does it talk 12:33 about unfallen worlds, and if so, did Satan tempt them as well 12:38 when he got kicked out of heaven or was it just Earth? 12:41 Doug: Yes to both questions. 12:44 Are there worlds besides our planet? 12:46 Well, yeah, God, you know, God has lived for eternity. 12:49 The idea that He didn't do anything or create anything 12:52 until He got to our world is kind of, I think 12:57 limited thinking. 12:59 You can look in the Bible. 13:00 Let me give you some scripture. 13:02 It says in Hebrews chapter 1: "God, who at various times in 13:06 various ways spoke in time past to the fathers by the prophets, 13:10 has spoken in these last days to us by His Son, whom He appointed 13:14 heir of all things," now listen, "through whom He made 13:17 the worlds." 13:19 He didn't make just the world, but He made worlds. 13:22 And you can read in Revelation about everyone in heaven 13:25 and Earth. 13:26 And then in Job it talks about there was a day when the sons of 13:29 God came to present themselves before the Lord. 13:31 Satan came and God said, "Where'd you come from?" 13:33 "I came from the Earth." 13:35 Well, they're having a meeting somewhere in heaven. 13:36 They're not on Earth. 13:38 So, yeah, God has unfallen creatures. 13:41 Did the devil tempt them? 13:42 Yeah, I think everyone had an opportunity to listen to Satan's 13:47 protests against God. 13:49 And the devil made his case and tried to tempt them, but the 13:53 only world that fell is our world, and it's like the parable 13:57 where Jesus said a man had 100 sheep, and they're all safe in 14:01 the fold, but he left the fold to look for that one lost sheep. 14:05 That's our world. 14:06 That's us. 14:08 And so Christ came down, become one of us to save us. 14:11 Jean: You know, we got a study guide that talks about the 14:12 origin of evil. 14:14 Where did the devil come from? 14:15 It doesn't directly talk about, I think, the other intelligent 14:18 beings, but it does talk about the angels that had 14:20 an opportunity to choose who they would obey. 14:22 It's called, "Did God Create a Devil? 14:24 The Origin of Evil." 14:26 And for those of you who have never received that study guide, 14:28 if you want to call, we'll be happy to send it to you. 14:30 It's 800-835-6747, and you can just ask for that study guide. 14:35 It's called, "Did God Create a Devil?" 14:37 You can also dial #250 on your smartphone, say "Bible Answers 14:41 Live," and you can ask for it by name. 14:44 Doug: You know, I was just also thinking, I've got a YouTube. 14:47 If anyone just goes to YouTube, "Is There Life on 14:49 Unfallen Worlds?" 14:51 or "Did God Create Other Worlds?" 14:52 And there's a whole bunch of scriptures we give on that. 14:54 Jean: All right. Andi in Georgia. 14:57 Andi, welcome to "Bible Answers Live." 15:00 Andi: Hello. Hi, pastors. 15:03 Doug: Hi, how are you doing? 15:04 Andi: Well, my question is, why do men always get, like, all the 15:09 glory for all the important stuff they do, but why not women 15:13 in the Bible? 15:14 Doug: You are correct that the Bible is mostly what you call 15:18 patriarchal, and that things go through the fathers. 15:21 It often tells about the birth of the sons, but not always 15:24 the daughters. 15:25 But you do have people like Ruth, who's a hero, and Esther 15:29 who's a hero, and Sarah and Rahab and so there are women. 15:35 Jean: And then, of course, in the New Testament, you get to 15:37 Mary, who is a hero in the Bibl, you have-- 15:41 Doug: She's the first one to see the resurrected Jesus. 15:43 Jean: Yeah, Mary Magdalene. 15:45 You've got Mary the mother of Jesus, yup. 15:47 And then you've got Elizabeth, which is the mother of John 15:50 the Baptist. 15:51 So, yes, women are spoken of quite a bit in the Bible, 15:54 although, you know, women weren't going into battle in the 15:57 Old Testament. 15:58 Although they did--you have Miriam, the sister of Moses, 16:02 so even all the way back there-- 16:03 Doug: Yeah, she saved her brothers. 16:05 Jean: That's right. 16:06 Doug: Good question. 16:08 Thank you, Andi. 16:09 Jean: All right, we've got Steve in Oregon. 16:10 Steve, welcome to "Bible Answers Live." 16:12 Steve: Hello, can you hear me okay? 16:14 Doug: We do, loud and clear. 16:16 Steve: All right, thank you. 16:17 First, I wanted to ask if you ever had the opportunity to meet 16:22 Fred Cornforth up here in the Northwest? 16:27 Doug: You know, that name sounds very familiar. 16:29 And so there's a possibility I have, but, yeah, as I get older, 16:34 my name files start to get fuzzy. 16:37 Steve: Well, he was a true messenger of the gospel in the 16:41 Pacific Northwest here, so. 16:43 Doug: I probably met him because I've been traveling North 16:46 America for 40 years and I did some camp meetings up there, 16:49 so I think I probably did. 16:51 Steve: My question is that Revelation 14:20, the end of the 16:58 chapter, "And the winepress was trampled outside the city, and 17:04 the blood came up out of the winepress up to the horses' 17:09 bridles, for one thousand six hundred furlongs." 17:15 And my question is why 1600 furlongs? 17:21 Why not 7 furlongs or 144 furlongs or 40 furlongs? 17:28 There's so many numbers that are so prevalent in the Bible. 17:34 Doug: Right, well, and 16 is also a number that is one of 17:42 the numbers that is divisible in the Bible. 17:45 You can read about in Isaiah, it says, "I've trodden the 17:49 winepress alone, and the peoples, and no one was with me, 17:51 for I've trodden them in my anger, and I trampled them in 17:55 my fury." 17:56 That's Isaiah 63:3. 17:58 So, Revelation, when you read about it, is referencing 18:01 something in the Old Testament prophets. 18:03 Pastor Ross, you got any thoughts on that? 18:04 Jean: Yeah, maybe just it represents complete destruction 18:07 of the wicked if you read through the whole passage. 18:09 It's talking about the wicked finally being destroyed at the 18:11 end of the 1000 years. 18:13 It talks about them being destroyed. 18:14 The winepress is trodden outside the city, that is the new 18:17 Jerusalem, and they mount their attack upon the New Jerusalem. 18:20 Of course, fire comes down and devours them. 18:22 So this is very symbolic. 18:24 The 1600 furlongs, people have wondered what that could be and 18:29 it is interesting, the actual number there. 18:31 Someone suggested there is a reference in the apocryphal book 18:35 of Enoch, it's not in the Bible, but it's a book where it 18:39 describes the slaughter of the wicked and describes their blood 18:43 as being a river. 18:44 And it would go all the way up to the bridle of the horse and 18:48 even covering the chariot behind the horse. 18:51 So it's just this very symbolic picture of complete destruction 18:55 of the wicked. 18:56 The wicked shall be no more after this. 18:58 Doug: And it tells us that the city of God has 4 sides and it's 19:01 4 square and 4 + 4 + 4 + 4 is 16. 19:06 So they're surrounding the city of God, yeah. 19:09 Jean: Oh, that's good. 19:10 All right, well, thank you, Steve. 19:12 Great question. 19:13 We've got Giovanni in Idaho. 19:15 Giovanni, welcome to the program. 19:17 Giovanni: Hi, good evening pastors. 19:19 How are you? 19:20 Doug: Doing well, thank you for calling. 19:22 Giovanni: Excellent. 19:23 All right, my question is, in Matthew chapter 2, verse 16, in 19:29 the New King James Version, it says Herod put to death all the 19:34 male children, but in the King James Version, it says he put to 19:40 death "all" the children, and to me that seems to be kind of 19:44 a significant difference, and I was just wondering which one is 19:48 more accurate. 19:50 Doug: Well, I'd say the King-- the New King James is more 19:53 accurate, and I think what they're doing is there are 19:54 different words that are used for children in Greek, and you 19:57 can have, you got--you got niño in Spanish, and that would be 20:01 a boy. 20:03 Niña would be a little girl. 20:04 And so, I think in the Greek this might be in some 20:07 manuscripts a--it's the masculine which would make sense 20:10 because they're looking for a coming king and it was a male 20:14 and the Jews did not have any female kings or queens that were 20:20 ordained and so Herod thought let's kill all the male children 20:23 like the king of Egypt who killed all the male children 20:27 that were born or tried to throw them all in the river. 20:30 Jean: All right, thank you. 20:32 We do have a book talking about the Bible and various Bible 20:35 translations and manuscript. 20:36 It's called, "The Ultimate Resource." 20:38 And anyone wanting to learn more about the Bible, where it came 20:41 from, you can get the book and read it. 20:43 It's called--just call and ask. 20:45 It's 800-835-6747. 20:47 The book is called, "The Ultimate Resource." 20:49 Also, you can dial #250 on your smartphone. 20:53 We've got Cami in California. 20:55 Cami, welcome to "Bible Answers Live." 20:57 Cami: Good evening, Pastors. 20:58 Thank you for taking my phone call this evening. 21:01 Doug: We're glad you called. And your question tonight? 21:03 Cami: My question is dealing with 1 Samuel chapter 16 and 21:10 verse 14. 21:11 Could you please shed light on that or-- 21:14 Doug: Yeah, let me read it for our friends that are listening. 21:17 It says, "But the Spirit of the Lord departed from Saul, and 21:20 a distressing spirit from the Lord troubled him." 21:23 And you would think--you might be wondering, why would God take 21:27 away his Spirit and send a diabolical or an evil spirit? 21:32 You know what it says just before that. 21:34 It says that "the Spirit of the Lord," if you look in verse 13, 21:38 "Samuel took his horn of oil and anointed him," David, "in the 21:42 midst of his brothers; and the Spirit of the Lord came upon 21:44 David from that day forward." 21:46 And you never hear where God took the Spirit away from David. 21:50 In fact, David prays in Psalm 51, "Take not thy Spirit from 21:53 me," as it was taken from him before him, he's implying. 21:57 But Saul kept rejecting God. 22:00 And when he drove away the Spirit of God, God's Spirit is 22:03 light and good. 22:05 And when you reject light and good, what happens when 22:08 light goes out? 22:09 Automatically darkness comes in. 22:12 So it wasn't that God said, "Okay, all the devils come on, 22:14 take over Saul." 22:15 When God was driven away, the natural occurrence is for the 22:19 evil and darkness to come in. 22:22 Jean: All right. Thank you, Cami. 22:25 Well, we've got Julie in California. 22:26 Julie, welcome to "Bible Answers Live." 22:29 Julie: Hi, Pastors, and thank you for taking my call. 22:32 My question is Isaiah 19:18 through 25. 22:37 I'm just wondering, is this passage prophetic? 22:42 I mean, it talks about then the Lord will be known to Egypt in 22:45 that day and all this. 22:47 And in verse 25, it says, "Blessed is Egypt, my people." 22:51 So I thought--I always understood that Egypt was cursed 22:55 and that it was a symbol for sin, you know, like in Exodus 20 22:59 where God says, "I brought you out of the land of Egypt." 23:03 In other words, "I saved you from your sin. 23:05 So now that I've saved you from your sin, please do these 23:09 things," okay, so I'm just curious about this passage. 23:13 Doug: Yeah, well, it's a great prophecy. 23:14 I think it's talking about the future. 23:16 Egypt has sort of a mixed history with Israel. 23:19 Keep in mind that Abraham married an Egyptian named Hagar, 23:26 that when there was a famine they always went to Egypt, that 23:28 it was in Egypt, Israel grew to a great nation. 23:31 Now one of the kings came along, you know, God blessed 23:34 Joseph in Egypt. 23:35 He became great in Egypt. 23:37 An evil king came along and then oppressed them. 23:40 But, first one that Solomon married was a daughter of Egypt. 23:44 So there's an interesting relationship. 23:46 Typically, Egypt means the world. 23:49 God said, "Don't go back to Egypt for horses," and there 23:53 was, you know, king of Egypt killed Josiah, one of the great 23:57 kings of Israel. 23:58 So there was, like, an off and on relationship. 24:00 This is a prophecy saying the day will come when those who had 24:04 been their enemies are going to embrace the Lord and that even a 24:08 place like Egypt, they'd be calling on God. 24:11 That partially happened with the Jews in Alexandria. 24:14 There was a great Jewish settlement there, but I think 24:17 the biggest fulfillment of this is in the future when the world, 24:20 the whole earth is full of the knowledge of God, even Egypt. 24:25 Jean: Okay, next caller that we have is Bob in Kentucky. 24:28 Bob, welcome to "Bible Answers Live." 24:31 Bob: Hi, good evening, gentlemen. 24:33 My question this evening is, who did Jacob wrestle with 24:38 in Genesis? 24:40 I've heard different theories, and my pastor even mentioned 24:42 that it might have been the Lord Jesus. 24:46 I don't know if they say it was God and--or an angel of God. 24:51 Doug: Yeah, it's an interesting story. 24:53 So it says a man appeared and he's wrestling with this man. 24:56 Later, he realizes it's a supernatural being 'cause 25:00 he touches him and says, "Let me go." 25:01 And Jacob says, "I'm not going to let you go unless you bless 25:04 me," because he thought, "This is the Lord." 25:07 And then later Jacob says, "For I have seen God." 25:11 Well, no man has seen the Father, but Christ often 25:13 appeared to the patriarchs, and so this would be a Christophany 25:16 where Jesus saw Christ before His incarnation. 25:20 And so many believe this was the pre-incarnate Christ. 25:25 Jean: And you have Jacob here representing this wrestling, 25:28 representing the people of God. 25:30 You go back a little bit in the history of Jacob, when he was 25:33 fleeing from his home, and he prayed and there was a ladder 25:36 that he saw in the dream representing Christ. 25:40 And the promise was, Lord, if You bring me back here in peace. 25:42 And so during this time of wrestling, he's claiming those 25:45 promise, claiming the promise that God had forgiven him, that 25:48 God had accepted him. 25:49 His faith was tested. 25:50 Esau was coming with an army to destroy him. 25:53 Similar to the experience of God's people at the end of time, 25:55 where they will have to claim the promises of God and hold on 25:58 to Him by faith. 26:00 Doug: Amen. 26:01 Jean: I'm looking at the clock, Pastor Doug. 26:02 I don't think we have time 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school, I went to college and then after college I 27:13 went into the dance world and became a dancer. 27:18 Got married late in my life, but at the right time. 27:22 He also grew up as a Catholic. 27:24 My husband worked as a software salesperson in New York City. 27:29 We woke up early that morning of 9/11 and I said to him, I said, 27:33 "Why are you not going to the city today?" 27:34 He says, "Look at this day, it's beautiful." 27:36 He says, "I really want to spend the day with you and the girls." 27:40 Just as that first plane hit the towers, he dropped to his knees 27:44 and he said, "Thank God, because I was supposed to be up in the 27:50 second building today." 27:52 So we changed our lives. 27:54 We found our place in the mountains in West Virginia. 27:58 My eldest child was born on Christmas Day, so that was 28:01 always very special until Christmas Day 2 years ago, my 28:06 husband died on our kitchen floor. 28:08 My youngest child and I worked for about an hour, doing CPR, 28:14 but living so remotely as where we live, there was 8 inches of 28:18 snow on the ground. 28:20 The emergency vehicles could not get to us. 28:22 We lost him that day. 28:27 Ten days after my husband died, the gray water system was 28:32 pouring out underneath the house. 28:33 I called the plumber up and I asked him if he remembered my 28:37 husband, and he says, "Oh, I do remember speaking with him." 28:40 I said, "Well, he passed away on Christmas Day." 28:43 And he says, "I'll be over tonight." 28:45 The whole underneath the house was replaced. 28:47 Said, "How much do I owe you for today?" 28:49 He says, "Let me think. 28:53 Nothing." 28:54 And I just hugged him and he says--he says, "How would you 28:58 like to come to church on Saturday?" 29:00 And I said, "Saturday?" 29:02 We ended up going to church on Saturday and his wife gave us 29:06 the Amazing Facts Bible Studies, and we couldn't get enough 29:09 of it. 29:11 When the girls and I heard the story of Doug Batchelor and "The 29:14 Richest Caveman," his story inspired all of us that, you 29:19 know, you can walk with God and talk with God and have 29:23 a personal relationship with Him. 29:25 The girls and I had decided that we were all going to get 29:27 baptized together. 29:29 That was a beautiful moment that I wish their dad was there 29:32 because I think he would be really proud that they chose to 29:35 give their hearts to Jesus that day. 29:38 I want to say thank you to Pastor Doug for all the facts 29:44 that he shares and his knowledge. 29:47 It has helped all of us grow closer to God. 29:51 ♪♪♪ 30:10 announcer: You're listening to "Bible Answers Live" where every 30:13 question answered provides a clearer picture of God and His 30:17 plan to save you. 30:19 So what are you waiting for? 30:20 Get practical answers about the good book for a better 30:23 life today. 30:27 This broadcast is a previously recorded episode. 30:30 If you'd like answers to your Bible-related questions 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31:38 Doug: Well, now keep in mind, some people think that means 31:41 that Jesus, when He's on the cross, didn't really die, but 31:44 that He entered another realm of limbo or purgatory, where He 31:48 preached to people who died during the flood, to give them 31:51 another chance. 31:53 This is not at all what this verse is talking about. 31:55 You have to back up and read a little bit. 31:57 Verse 18. 31:58 Let me read it. 32:00 This is, by the way, 1 Peter 3:18. 32:02 "For Christ also suffered once for sins, the just for the 32:04 unjust, that He might bring us to God, being put to death in 32:08 the flesh but made alive by the Spirit," capital S. 32:12 By whom? The Spirit. 32:14 He went and preached to the spirits in prison, so Christ 32:17 through the Spirit preached to the spirits in prison, who 32:21 were disobedient. 32:22 When did this happen? 32:24 "When the divine longsuffering waited in the days of Noah." 32:27 God's longsuffering, the Spirit preaching, days of Noah. 32:31 Peter is referring to Genesis 6, verse 3, where God says, 32:37 "My Spirit will not always strive with man. 32:38 His days will be 120 years." 32:41 Through that same Spirit that raised Christ from the dead, 32:44 God spoke to the people imprisoned by sin. 32:48 Spirits imprisoned by sin. 32:49 It's not talking about ghosts in prison. 32:51 It's talking about people imprisoned by sin back in the 32:53 days of Noah when He was longsuffering with them. 32:56 It's not Jesus going down to Hades somewhere and preaching. 33:00 Jean: All right. Thank you, Simon. 33:03 We've got Nathan in Canada. 33:05 Nathan, welcome to "Bible Answers Live." 33:07 Nathan: Good evening, Pastor Doug. 33:10 I love your content. 33:11 I've been listening to you for many years. 33:14 Doug: Thank you, Nathan. 33:16 We're glad you called. 33:17 Nathan: I have a question. 33:18 Past few years I've been, just to put it short, I've been 33:21 struggling with laziness and just feeling depressed. 33:26 I mean, I used to be like very faithful and believing, I used 33:30 to believe in God, but, you know, recently, maybe since I 33:35 went to university, I've been really doubting that. 33:40 It crippled my productivity, like being able to work and 33:45 enjoy what I do, has just been like crushed. 33:49 I missed out on some opportunities in my university. 33:54 It, you know, I've just been managing. 33:58 I didn't--I haven't really had any aspiration or any, like, 34:03 grand meaning, you know. 34:06 It's just something that, you know, it made me depressed 34:09 and lazy. 34:11 I feel optimistic and I want to return back to that. 34:15 I just don't know with doubt, having to do with doubt, the 34:18 depression that hangs down. 34:21 Doug: Well, let me give you a few thoughts. 34:24 First of all, some depression can be caused by things 34:27 physiological or chemical. 34:30 You can be sleepy and it can bring on depression, if you're 34:32 not getting enough rest. 34:34 You can have some chemical imbalance or in the diet that 34:38 can bring on depression. 34:40 Some people, if they have a lot of sugar in their diet, the high 34:43 from the sugar then brings on a low later. 34:46 So it could be physiological. 34:47 It could be a spiritual battle. 34:49 Now, the devil will take advantage of our 34:52 physical weakness. 34:53 That's when he came to tempt Christ when He was hungry. 34:55 So if you already have some physical problem, the devil will 34:58 try and make the most of it, and it can be--compound 35:00 your depression. 35:01 "Faith comes by hearing and hearing by the Word of God." 35:05 The more you hear the Word of God, a little hearing, a little 35:08 faith, more hearing, more faith. 35:10 God's Word is encouraging. 35:12 The Bible says in Romans chapter 5, "When we had no strength, 35:16 Christ died for us." 35:18 And so remember that He died for you when you're weak. 35:21 He says, "Take My yoke upon you." 35:24 Surrender to Jesus. 35:25 Believe that He died for you, that He came to you, that He 35:28 wants you to be saved. 35:29 He loves you desperately. 35:31 And the more you look at Him, the more you'll love Him. 35:34 The more you love Him, the more excited you'll be about 35:36 serving Him. 35:37 And that's the greatest motivation in life, whether 35:40 you're doing it at work or full-time ministry. 35:43 When you fall in love with the Lord, you got a bright future 35:46 and you're going to be wanting to share that with others. 35:48 Jean: Absolutely, and of course, it's always good to share 35:51 your faith. 35:52 That kind of helps motivate you and encourage you too. 35:54 Doug: Now, we have a book called, "When the Brook Dries 35:56 Up," that deals with discouragement. 35:58 We'll send you a free copy. 36:00 Jean: The number to call for that is 800-835-6747. 36:03 You can ask for the book, it's called, "When the Brook 36:06 Dries Up." 36:07 Again, that's 800-835-6747. 36:10 You can also dial #250 on your smartphone and just ask for it 36:14 by name. 36:15 Robert in Nevada. 36:16 Robert, welcome to "Bible Answers Live." 36:18 Robert: Thank you. 36:19 Hello, Dr--Pastor Doug, Pastor Ross. 36:22 Doug: Thank you. 36:24 My question is this, I have heard that during the days of 36:28 Jesus, that wine could be dehydrated when they went 36:32 on trips. 36:34 And I wonder if that somehow would explain the miracle of 36:38 Jesus turning the water into wine at the wedding feast, 36:43 that's in the Bible. 36:44 Doug: That what they did, yeah, when they filled those cisterns 36:47 with water, it had dehydrated wine in them, kind of like 36:50 Kool-Aid at the bottom, and then it turned into wine. 36:53 Is that kind of the idea? 36:55 Robert: Yes, yes, yes. 36:57 Doug: Yeah, no, it's pretty clear from the text that they 37:00 were out of wine, dehydrated or otherwise, but it wasn't 37:04 fully dehydrated. 37:05 It used to be a syrup, actually. 37:07 It wasn't like freeze-dried. 37:08 And--but no, they were out of wine. 37:11 He told the servants, "Fill the pitchers with water," and all 37:13 the servants knew there was nothing in those pitchers 37:15 but water. 37:17 And He said, "Now pour it out." 37:18 And it wasn't only wine. 37:19 He didn't say, "Oh, this is made from concentrate. 37:21 It's no good." 37:22 The head of the feast said, "This is the best wine. 37:25 Where'd you get fresh wine?" 37:27 They could taste that it was fresh wine, and it wasn't the 37:31 wine season. 37:32 So, it was a miracle. 37:34 Matter of fact, John says this was the first miracle. 37:36 If Jesus had only added water to dehydrated grape juice, then it 37:42 wouldn't have been called a miracle. 37:43 It would have been mixing concentrate. 37:46 Jean: Yeah, the Bible also says that the sticks--the six stone 37:49 water jugs that Jesus used, that were used for purifying of 37:52 the Jews. 37:53 So those jugs weren't used for wine, they were actually used 37:57 for water and purification of cooking utensils and the like. 38:01 So it was profound. 38:04 And that's probably why the governor of the feast said that. 38:06 He said, "You kept the best to last." 38:07 So probably up to that point, they had some sort of dehydrated 38:11 kind of syrupy stuff. 38:13 But then, wow, the grape juice that Jesus made was so fresh. 38:17 They were amazed, "Where did you get this from?" 38:18 Doug: Yeah, it's interesting. 38:20 The first miracle of Jesus, He turns water to wine and He gives 38:24 human--humanity at a marriage fresh wine. 38:29 And of course, Christ, the first thing He does is Adam and Eve, 38:31 He's at a marriage, right? 38:33 And then, the last thing Jesus does, He tastes sour wine that 38:38 is given to Him on a pole that we gave Him. 38:41 And so He gives us pure, we give Him sour, He trades places 38:44 with us. 38:46 It's like a blood transfusion. 38:47 He takes our bad blood and He gives us His pure blood. 38:49 So, the whole gospel's in there and it was a miracle. 38:53 Jean: All right, thank you, Robert. 38:54 Next caller that we have is Aiden in Arizona. 38:57 Aiden, welcome to the program. 38:58 Aiden: Oh hello, Pastors. Doug: Hi. 39:03 Aiden: Hello. 39:05 Hey, my question is in Galatians chapter 4, verse number 6. 39:14 Verse 6, if you'd like to read that. 39:16 Doug: Okay, "And because you are sons, God has sent forth the 39:19 Spirit into His Son--in your hearts, crying out, 39:22 'Abba, Father.'" 39:25 Would you like me to explain that? 39:27 Aiden: Yeah, yeah, the spirit of his sons into your hearts. 39:31 That's one of my questions. 39:34 Doug: Yeah, well, you know, the--Christ sent the 39:38 Holy Spirit. 39:39 And the goodness of God leads us to call out for God. 39:43 And it's a--He's talking about a father-son love relationship. 39:48 Abba was a very simple form. 39:50 It's like Papa, and it's, you know, God's--Jesus said, "When 39:54 you pray, say, 'Our Father.'" 39:57 That was profoundly intimate for the Jews to say, "Our Father." 40:00 And that, Jesus is telling us that the Father loves you, not 40:05 just the Son, but the Father so loved the world He gave His Son. 40:09 And so it's here in this verse, you've got the Father, the Son, 40:13 and the Spirit all in that one verse. 40:15 Jean: Does that help, Aiden? 40:17 Aiden: Yeah, that does, because this is a part of the 40:21 New Testament, right? 40:23 Doug: Yes, Galatians. 40:24 Aiden: Yes, yes, and so that's what I was wondering, 40:28 yes, 'cause I was just wondering there on the New Testament where 40:31 He said He would write it in our hearts. 40:34 Doug: Yes, that's part of the new covenant. 40:36 Aiden: Yeah, it's part of the new covenant. 40:39 And so, yes, that's what I was wondering what the Spirit of His 40:42 Son was, in our hearts. 40:44 Doug: Yeah, well, of course, that's the Holy Spirit that 40:47 Jesus said. 40:48 He said, "I can't, you know, I'll be with you in the 40:51 Holy Spirit. 40:52 Wherever you go, I'm with you." 40:54 And He's in you. 40:56 Jean: You know, I'm looking for that book, Pastor Doug, "Why the 40:58 Old Covenant Failed." 40:59 And it actually talks about the new covenant and explains how 41:02 God writes His law upon the heart of those who love Him. 41:05 We'll be happy to send it to anyone who calls and asks. 41:07 The number is 800-835-6747. 41:11 You can ask for the book. 41:12 It's called, "Why the Old Covenant Failed." 41:14 And also dial #250 on your smartphone, you can ask for it 41:17 that way as well. 41:19 Gerald in Michigan, Gerald, welcome to "Bible Answers Live." 41:22 Gerald: Hey, Pastor Ross, Pastor Doug. 41:25 Doug: Evening. Gerald: Good evening. 41:28 Pastor Doug, I just want you to know, I was in a bad way for 41:31 a long time and when I was in prison, by accident, 41:36 I programmed 3 ABN into my TV and "Amazing Facts" was on, and 41:41 I surrendered my life to the Lord that night, and I just got 41:45 baptized yesterday. 41:46 So thank you for your program. 41:47 Doug: Amen, now you said "by accident." 41:49 Do you really believe it was an accident? 41:51 Gerald: Well, I say it was an accident because I didn't know 41:55 that that channel was there, but-- 41:57 Doug: But God arranged that, and I'm--praise God, we're just 42:00 rejoicing with you. 42:01 That's wonderful, Gerald. 42:03 Gerald: That's awesome. 42:04 Okay, it's been said that we-- everybody has a guardian angel. 42:11 I was wondering, when a person dies, does that guardian angel 42:14 go to someone else, or is it possible that they guard the 42:17 gravesite or wherever that person dies until that person 42:20 raises with Jesus? 42:22 Doug: Let me tell you an amazing fact. 42:25 Squirrels have an incredible memory. 42:28 They bury nuts all summer long, all fall. 42:32 They know where every nut is buried. 42:35 How they do that, I don't know, but they know. 42:37 Same thing with woodpeckers. 42:39 Angels mark the grave of people they've cared for through 42:42 their lives. 42:44 I think angels are ministering spirits. 42:45 They're busy. 42:47 They probably would get bored, you know, sitting--an angel 42:49 standing 6000 years by the grave of Abel. 42:52 They've marked the place and they'll be there for 42:53 the Resurrection. 42:54 God may have them engaged doing something else in the meantime, 42:57 but I'm sure they're--they like activity as much as we do. 43:01 And they haven't forgotten the spot where the nuts are buried. 43:05 So, you don't have to worry. 43:07 But do they take on another person? 43:10 I don't know, we're kind of delving into some 43:12 speculation there. 43:14 Do we have guardian angels? 43:15 I think the Bible supports that 'cause it says that "their 43:18 angels do behold the face of My Father and the angel of the 43:22 Lord," Psalm 91, "encamps around those that fear Him." 43:25 So I do think we have guardian angels. 43:28 Jean: All right, and of course, if guardian angels standing 43:31 guarding the tomb, now, of course, there were probably 43:33 angels guarding the tomb of Christ when he was in the tomb, 43:36 but when a person dies in faith and, you know, they are buried, 43:41 there's no real reason to guard the body any longer. 43:44 Doug: What if they're cremated and scattered in the ocean, 43:46 where they going to go? 43:47 Jean: God's going to create with a new body, so, it's not 43:51 so important-- 43:52 Doug: What will the angels do if their ashes were scattered. 43:54 What would they guard? The ocean? 43:55 Jean: That's right. And I think they get reassigned. 43:57 I mean, there's a lot of people in the world and so-- 43:59 Doug: If I was an angel, I'd want to be busy. 44:02 I always thought it'd be tough to be like the guard of the 44:05 unknown soldier just march back and forth, but they do a great 44:09 job in their drill. 44:11 Jean: All right, Deanna in Illinois. 44:13 Deanna, welcome to "Bible Answers Live." 44:14 Deanna: Good evening. 44:18 So my question is, what is the biblical significance of the 44:23 number 7 and number 10 and also multiples of number 7 as in 44:30 Daniel chapter 9, the 70-week prophecy? 44:33 Doug: Yeah, yeah, well, the 7 is, there are meanings, most 44:38 scholars believe, to Bible numbers, and I think I'll get 44:41 into it real quick, but just before I forget. 44:43 We have a website, Bible Prophecy Truth, and there's 44:46 a place here, it's got a key on Bible numbers and their 44:49 meanings, if--I think that's where it's at. 44:52 Seven is a number for a complete cycle, a perfect cycle. 44:55 God made the week in--made the world in seven days, and it's 44:59 a cycle. 45:00 You find in Revelation, several cycles of history. 45:03 You get the seven churches, seven trumpets, seven plagues. 45:06 You get the seven seals, seven thunders, how many seven eyes. 45:12 You get seven spirits. 45:13 Come on, Pastor Ross, I'm leaving half of them out. 45:16 Jean: There's a lot of sevens, yes. 45:17 Doug: A lot of sevens in Revelation. 45:18 But--and it's talking about the perfection of God. 45:22 A 12 often represents the church: 12 apostles, 12 tribes, 45:26 12 judges, 12 foundations in the New Jerusalem with 12 gates 45:30 and 144,000. 45:32 The church is going to eat 12 kinds of fruit, 12 times a year. 45:35 Then you've got the number ten is the law. 45:38 And, you know, you get the ten lepers that were healed. 45:43 A woman has ten coins, but she loses one. 45:46 Forty is a generation, usually, in the Bible, a lot of forties. 45:50 So 3 is a--3 1/2 is a like, 3 1/2 is usually a time of 45:54 apostasy so it's half of 7. 45:56 It's like it's interrupted. 45:58 Six is the number of man in the Bible. 46:00 Jean: Five is often associated with doctrinal teaching because 46:03 of the first five books. 46:04 So number two is the old, the law and the prophets, 46:08 two witnesses. 46:09 So yeah, that's a great--that's a great study, the numbers in 46:11 the Bible. 46:13 All right, Luther in Tennessee, welcome to "Bible Answers Live." 46:17 Luther: Hey, well, thanks for taking my call. 46:20 Who are the 24 elders in Revelations? 46:23 I'm a bit confused about that. 46:26 Doug: Yeah, it's interesting. 46:27 We just were talking about numbers. 46:29 You said the 24 elders. 46:30 The key to understanding Revelation is you look in the 46:34 Old Testament, and it's true often in the reign of David and 46:38 Solomon that their leaders were divided in 12s, 2 times 12 46:43 is 24. 46:44 And so, but who are these 24 elders? 46:49 Some wondered if they were the saints that were resurrected in 46:53 Matthew 28 with the resurrection of Christ that ascended 46:56 to heaven. 46:57 I think it's more likely that they are leaders of unfallen 47:00 worlds that they represent, they might represent unfallen 47:05 districts of the universe, I don't know, but you know, it 47:08 tells us there was a day when the sons of God came to gather 47:10 with the Lord. 47:12 There's this assembly around the Lord. 47:13 Adam was to be the ruler of this world. 47:15 He was called the son of God. 47:17 And so it may be leaders of unfallen realms that are around 47:24 the throne of God. 47:26 Jean: You know, we do have a verse in Isaiah 24, verse 23, 47:29 that I think is used or referenced in Revelation chapter 47:32 4, talking about the 24 elders. 47:34 It says: "Then the moon shall be confounded, and the sun shall be 47:37 ashamed, when the Lord of hosts shall reign in Mount Zion, 47:41 in Jerusalem, and before his ancient or elders gloriously." 47:46 So here in the Old Testament, we have a reference to the Lord 47:48 surrounded by the elders, and Revelation gives us the numbers: 47:52 24 elders. 47:53 So, as Pastor Doug mentioned, scholars believe, many scholars 47:56 believe that it could symbolize those sons of God that you read 47:59 about in the book of Job or the representatives of the 48:02 unfallen worlds. 48:05 All right, thank you, Luther. 48:06 We've got Phil and Joan in Arizona. 48:08 Phil, Joan, welcome to "Bible Answers Live." 48:11 Joan: Hi, thank you for your Odyssey 2024 in New York and in 48:14 the '90s, I believe. 48:15 Thank you for historical prophecies. 48:17 Enjoyed them both. 48:18 We're both--we're both baptized. 48:20 And my question is, why was there an immediate punishment 48:25 where the wicked are stubble in Malachi 4, and why in Revelation 48:30 comparing it to Revelation 20, and they're in the lake of fire 48:34 for a short period of time. 48:36 There's a--why wouldn't they just be eliminated quickly like 48:40 they were in Malachi 4, the wicked? 48:42 Doug: Well, there's two times the wicked are burned up. 48:45 I know it sounds kind of harsh, but Malachi I think is talking 48:48 about when the Lord comes, as you read in Thessalonians, 48:52 Pastor Ross will help me find, 'cause I get 1 and 2 48:54 Thessalonians verses mixed up. 48:56 But where it says that the wicked are destroyed by the 48:59 brightness of His coming. 49:01 When the day of the Lord comes, you read in 2 Peter chapter 3, 49:05 "The Day of the Lord will come as a thief in the night, in 49:07 which the heavens will pass away with a great noise, and the 49:10 elements melt with a fervent heat." 49:12 That's where it burns it like stubble, burn up, and the 49:16 elements will burn up. 49:18 That's talking about when Jesus first comes. 49:20 The judgment that you read about in Revelation is after the 1000 49:23 years when the wicked are then cast into the lake of fire. 49:26 They're punished according to what they deserve, so they're 49:28 kind of two different fires. 49:30 Jean: The verse you're referring to, 2 Thessalonians chapter 2, 49:32 verse 8. 49:33 It says: "Then that wicked shall be revealed, and 49:35 the Lord shall consume with the Spirit of His mouth and shall 49:37 destroy with the brightness of His coming." 49:39 Doug: So it's the brilliance of His coming is--and the Lord's 49:42 coming is a consuming fire, the Bible tells us. 49:45 So when Jesus comes, the righteous are resurrected or 49:48 caught up to meet the Lord. 49:50 The wicked are destroyed by the brightness of His coming. 49:52 They'll be stubble at that time. 49:55 They're later resurrected and judged according to their works, 49:58 and then they're cast into the lake of fire, and 50:00 that's separate. 50:01 Jean: Okay, next caller that we have is Bear in California. 50:04 Bear, welcome to "Bible Answers Live." 50:07 Bear: Good evening, my friends. 50:09 How are you tonight? 50:10 Doug: Good, I know another Bear. 50:12 There's not many out there. 50:13 How you doing? 50:14 Bear: Yeah, I know we're far and few between. 50:17 My question is, I know throughout the Bible, Jesus had 50:22 several names and when Mary was told that she was going to have 50:28 a baby, to name Him Jesus. 50:31 Did Jesus have an official name in the Old Testament? 50:37 Doug: Well, are you talking about like when He appears to 50:40 Abraham or--the only thing I can think of is when God said, 50:46 you know, I am that I AM. 50:48 And then you've got that sacred name of God that is Yahweh and 50:52 some people call it Jehovah. 50:55 It's we're not exactly sure how to pronounce it, 50:57 the Tetragrammaton. 50:59 And, so there's a sacred name of God, but even in the Old 51:06 Testament there's a couple of Joshuas and they are types 51:09 of Christ. 51:10 Joshua was a prophet and a general that led them into the 51:13 Promised Land, and there was a high priest named Joshua that 51:16 led them from Babylon back to the Promised Land. 51:19 Christ is our high priest, our general, our prophet. 51:22 So in that sense, He's also called the Son of David. 51:25 So He's got some symbolic names, you know, He's called the 51:28 Almighty, the provider in Mount Moriah, God will provide. 51:34 So, yeah, a number of names in the Old Testament are used, 51:38 so I'm not sure if I'm answering what you're asking. 51:41 Bear: Well, I've got a flyer from you about Michael 51:45 the Archangel. 51:46 Doug: Oh, okay, yeah. 51:47 So, yeah, that's another name. 51:50 One of the names for Christ is Michael, and that means who is 51:54 as God. 51:56 Now we're not saying, I always got to clarify with people, 51:58 we do not believe that Jesus is an angel. 52:00 He is eternal God. 52:03 But when He appeared in the Old Testament, like when this 52:06 majestic warlike being, this angel appears to Joshua, the 52:10 angel says, "Take your shoes off, this is holy ground." 52:13 We're not supposed to worship angels. 52:16 And it says, "The Lord Himself will descend from heaven with 52:18 a shout and the voice of the archangel." 52:22 Michael the Archangel is one of the spiritual names for Jesus in 52:24 the Old Testament, and you know that because it says in 52:27 Revelation 12 that "the dragon and his angels," now the dragon 52:31 is a symbolic name for the devil, "fought with Michael and 52:34 His angels." 52:36 Michael's a symbolic name for the leader of good, 52:37 that's Jesus. 52:39 So yes, that is one of the names, correct. 52:42 I wasn't sure if you were looking for one of the Hebrew 52:44 other names. 52:46 Jean: You know, we have a book. 52:47 It's called, "The Name of God." 52:48 Doug: And we got one, "Who is Michael the Archangel?" 52:50 Jean: That one too, yeah, two books. 52:51 Doug: We'll send you two for the price of nothing. 52:52 Jean: That's right. 52:54 The number to call is 800-835-6747. 52:57 That is our resource phone line. 52:58 You can ask for the book, "The Name of God," or "Michael the 53:01 Archangel," and we'll be happy to send it to anyone who calls 53:04 and asks. 53:05 You can also dial #250 on your smartphone. 53:08 Say "Bible Answers Live" and you'll be able to receive the 53:10 book that way as well. 53:12 Carl in Georgia. 53:13 Carl, welcome to "Bible Answers Live." 53:16 Carl: Yeah, I got a question on the feet washing. 53:20 I noticed many denominations don't do it, yet when Jesus says 53:25 you ought to do this, to me, that's a very 53:28 strong recommendation. 53:30 Is there a basis why more denominations don't practice it? 53:36 Doug: Well, I agree with you that they should, because the 53:38 command, He says, "If I wash your feet, you ought to wash one 53:41 another's feet." 53:43 His command there is just as explicit about the commandment 53:46 of "As often as I drink it--as you eat and drink it, you do it 53:49 in remembrance of Me." 53:51 So, the commandment's equally clear. 53:55 People in Bible times, they used to, you know, walk around 53:59 barefoot on dirty roads and their feet needed 54:01 regular washing. 54:02 You come to someone's house, now you wash your hands 54:04 before you eat. 54:05 Back then they washed their feet and their hands because their 54:07 feet often had to go on the same roads as the animals, and it 54:10 didn't bring the best smell into the house. 54:12 So some people say, "Well, that was just a tradition 54:14 from the ages. 54:16 We don't need to do that anymore." 54:18 But a lot of, you know, biblically careful churches 54:22 still practice that. 54:23 Our church practices that. 54:25 I think it's interesting that even in the Catholic Church, 54:27 I think once a year, the pope washes someone's feet or a few 54:29 people's feet. 54:31 I don't know if he can do it now he gets older, but that used to 54:34 be a tradition because they recognize it's a command 54:36 in the Bible. 54:38 Not that the pope's our best example for everything, 54:42 but anyway, so I know Primitive Baptists still do and a number 54:44 of other churches. 54:46 Jean: Okay, next caller that we have is Janelle in New York. 54:49 Janelle, welcome to "Bible Answers Live." 54:50 Janelle: Hi, how are you? 54:52 Doug: Doing good. 54:54 We got about a minute before we're out of time, 54:56 so your question? 54:57 Janelle: Yes, so, I had a dream when I was younger, and 55:01 this dream I've seen Jesus and He had a garment on, and it 55:07 had--the garment that He was wearing was the garment that the 55:12 high priests wore in the Old Testament, which is the Urim and 55:15 the Thummim, I think I'm pronouncing it right. 55:18 So I see this verse and it's Ezra chapter 2, verse 63. 55:26 And I want to know if this refers to Jesus as the high 55:29 priest in heaven, and what He's wearing. 55:32 Doug: All right, let me read this for our friends listening. 55:34 "And the governor said to them that they should not eat of the 55:37 most holy things till a priest can consult with the Urim and 55:41 the Thummim. 55:43 Those were the two sacred stones on the shoulder of the 55:45 high priest. 55:46 And when they were in doubt about what to do, sometimes they 55:49 would pray and they'd look, and it's, evidently, it's--there's 55:53 still some mystery about this, Pastor Ross, but it seems like 55:56 one of the stones would glow. 55:58 And it was kind of like a yes or a no answer that they'd get, 56:03 doing this. 56:04 I remember when one of the priests fled from King Saul, he 56:08 took the ephod with him that had the Urim and the Thummim, and 56:11 David would consult it before he went into battle. 56:13 He had--Abiathar had that with him, and it would guide them 56:17 about what to do. 56:18 Now they don't know if the thing made a sound or hummed or 56:20 glowed, but somehow they'd ask a question, and one meant yes and 56:23 one meant no and, yeah, and Christ is, of course, 56:27 our high priest. 56:28 He's wearing the breastplate in Revelation chapter 1, but I'm 56:31 not sure it says anything there about the Urim and the Thummim. 56:34 So it's a symbol for the high priest here. 56:36 Jean: Our next caller is James in Minnesota. 56:38 James, we got about a minute. 56:40 You're on "Bible Answers Live." 56:41 James: Hello, Pastors. 56:42 This is for Pastor Jean Ross. 56:45 The Protestant reformers and pioneers believed that the seven 56:49 heads of the Roman beast in Revelation 17 were the seven 56:53 different forms of Roman government: kings, consuls, 56:57 decemvirs, triumvirs, dictators, emperors, and popes, which is 57:01 a unique element of their kingdom. 57:03 I've heard your understanding that the seven heads are seven 57:06 kingdoms that have persecuted God's people. 57:10 But can you please show me what other example you can give where 57:15 another kingdom has other kingdoms as their head? 57:19 Shouldn't there be another biblical example? 57:22 Jean: Yeah, let me summarize that real quick. 57:25 The Bible does say that the seven heads represent kingdoms, 57:28 seven kingdoms as well. 57:30 And the principal kingdoms that persecuted the people of God, if 57:32 you go back just using the prophetic books of Daniel and 57:34 Revelation, you go back to the time of Babylon. 57:37 Babylon, even before that you can go to Syria, but Babylon, 57:40 Medo-Persia, Greece, Rome, and then the papal power for the 57:43 1260 years, and then there is a revival of persecution just 57:47 before Jesus comes. 57:49 And so we don't have time to get into all of those details, but 57:51 that's sort of a summary. 57:53 Doug: We got a lesson on it at our website. 57:56 Hey, thanks for listening, friends. 57:57 We're out of time. 57:59 God willing, we'll study His Word together with you again 58:01 next week. 58:05 announcer: Thank you for listening to today's broadcast. 58:08 We hope you understand your Bible even better than before. 58:11 "Bible Answers Live" is produced by Amazing Facts International, 58:15 a faith-based ministry located in Granite Bay, California. 58:20 ♪♪♪ |
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