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Participants: Amy Wellard, Cherie Lon Fernandez

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00:16 Welcome to "Wonderfully Made"
00:18 Today on the program we have Dr. Cherie Lon Fernandez
00:21 to talk to us about the hot topic of PMS
00:25 Welcome to the show Dr. Cherie Lon
00:27 Thank you for inviting me.
00:29 PMS, now it's NOT all in your head.
00:32 PMS - premenstrual syndrome
00:34 Actually, this was first coined around the 1980s, I believe,
00:38 in Britain which is my home country,
00:40 and many times women were caught and accused of being
00:44 guilty of various crimes and their excuse was...
00:48 "Officer, I had premenstrual syndrome...
00:50 I was about to start my menstruation"
00:53 And so it became criminal cases;
00:54 it became known in criminal conversations.
00:56 So, tell us a little bit about PMS,
00:58 and how many women are affected by this?
01:01 Oh, it is some 20 to 50% of women that suffer from this,
01:07 and many just do it from day-to-day thinking that it's
01:12 just a regular thing actually...
01:14 But it can be SO SEVERE that the woman really is
01:21 incapacitated... and it can even go to what you call the
01:27 "premenstrual dysphoric disorder"
01:33 When the woman is now clinically affected by
01:36 depression, she has clinical depression associated
01:40 with these premenstrual problems of bloating,
01:44 or headaches or irritability, and she's always tense,
01:49 she is always sad or depressed, always anxious,
01:55 and excessively irritable...
02:01 Very high irritability at this time just prior to menses,
02:07 and that's what PMS is.
02:10 So it's affecting almost half the female population
02:14 at some time in our lives.
02:16 And of course, whatever affects her also affects him, right? Yes
02:20 So if we have any male viewers, and I'm sure we do,
02:22 and I hope we do, please stay with us
02:24 because you're going to learn, today, some things that
02:26 could really help you to help the special lady in your life.
02:29 So when a woman goes to the doctor with PMS-type symptoms,
02:33 typically, what would the doctor be looking for?
02:36 PMS - there is no blood exam for it, you know.
02:41 So the doctor usually will say...
02:43 Maybe if you didn't go to your doctor - if they haven't gone
02:47 to their doctor yet, it would help them to know that
02:51 before you go to your doctor, so that you just go
02:53 straight and have your help right away,
02:56 it would be necessary that at
02:58 LEAST you get 2 months of charting of the menstrual cycle
03:03 and all the manifestations.
03:04 Every day you say this... "Today, this is what happened. "
03:08 Tomorrow and the next day - EVERY detail of the
03:12 menstrual days - up to the next menses and the next.
03:16 So a total of 2 cycles, you chart down
03:19 ALL your manifestations,
03:21 and then the doctor can work on that.
03:24 Okay, so you would even include things like -
03:27 When I started to open the refrigerator
03:29 and eat everything inside,
03:30 and how I got irritable with my husband,
03:33 every symptom, not just physical discomfort.
03:37 Yes because PMS is BOTH physical and emotional.
03:42 When we have menses, we probably have just a little
03:45 emotional problem - this is because of the pain...
03:48 But this one is NOT because of the pain,
03:50 NOT because of bloating, not because of that,
03:52 that's only one-half of the manifestation.
03:54 The other half, which is really very problematic,
03:58 is when she starts to have emotional problems.
04:01 I think we can all relate to that...
04:04 At some point in our lives PMS seems to affect us...
04:07 especially as we get older,
04:08 maybe because of hormonal imbalances. Yes
04:11 Certainly I can relate to that personally.
04:14 I actually had PMS, probably at least 5 years...
04:18 But, we're going to talk about some of the solutions
04:20 that have really helped me. ... That would be good
04:22 So tell me a little bit about the hormones...
04:24 What's really going on, and when we talk about
04:26 hormonal problems, exactly what is it?
04:29 Is it too much progesterone?
04:30 Is it too much estrogen?
04:31 What is it? There are 2 schools of thought
04:38 I got it - 2 schools of thought;
04:41 one school says that there is too much estrogen
04:45 The other school of thought says TOO MUCH progesterone.
04:50 But the thing is, it's whether it's progesterone or estrogen,
04:55 there is always too much of one.
04:57 Also then, there is a relative imbalance between the 2 hormones
05:02 So when there's a relative imbalance between these
05:05 2 hormones, you know, these hormones you already know,
05:09 I cannot say enough of this - it's very important.
05:12 ALL cells of the body are affected by the female hormone.
05:16 I mean for the female body.
05:17 It's affected by the female hormone.
05:22 Especially our brain, it's soaked with
05:25 receptors for the estrogen and the
05:28 progesterone. Really, I didn't know that.
05:30 When you have the estrogen and progesterone problems,
05:33 it affects the hormones in our brain
05:36 like serotonin and beta endorphins.
05:39 you know, these substances in our brain - neurotransmitters
05:42 that affect how good we feel about ourselves, okay?
05:46 Or how SAD we feel about ourselves.
05:48 The endorphins, now are they
05:50 what we call the "happy hormones?" Yes!
05:51 So I'm guessing the beta endorphins would be diminished
05:54 during the PMS phase.
05:56 Is that why we start feeling miserable and sad? Yes
05:58 So it really is physiological the reason that we feel sad
06:02 and depressed.
06:03 There is a physiological reason behind it.
06:07 So it's not just all in our minds?
06:09 That's good news, that's encouraging!
06:11 So, how can you tell without a blood test necessarily
06:16 that you have PMS... because there was no
06:18 blood test, as you said.
06:20 Yes, it is important, therefore, that you know your plotting
06:24 of your daily activities and whatever happens...
06:28 it's important that you put this down because
06:31 the manifestations are the ones that WILL give the doctors
06:35 the diagnosis that you're having PMS.
06:39 Now the rise in PMS, so maybe it's not really rhythm,
06:44 and it's just that we're more aware of it
06:45 because of the culture we live in.
06:47 We're very conscious about health issues,
06:48 and help is more readily available than it was
06:51 100 years ago, but the rise in PMS seems to correlate
06:54 with the rise in obesity in women.
06:56 Is there a hormonal connection with the obesity?
07:00 Yes there is... lifestyle has so much to do with
07:03 every part organ and system of our body,
07:08 but mainly there are more obese people - what you said
07:14 Now obese people have more fat in the body...
07:19 Unfortunately, FAT can be converted into ESTROGEN
07:26 in the body.
07:28 So you are ovulating, so you are having your
07:31 menses regular and you have your normal estrogen,
07:34 but you have your fat producing even MORE estrogen!
07:37 So then you have more estrogen than your body can handle.
07:41 More estrogen than your brain cells can handle
07:44 because your fat cells can convert this cholesterol
07:51 into estrogen.
07:53 And the more estrogen you've got floating around,
07:56 the more PMS symptoms - Very interesting
07:59 So one of the indicators would be to try to lose weight
08:02 as much as possible. Very, very important!
08:05 Okay, so how can you tell which of your hormones
08:09 is out of balance if, say you're at the ideal weight
08:12 Obviously, you're not producing more estrogen than you should.
08:15 Can you assume that it's too much progesterone
08:17 or you're progesterone dominant?
08:21 That's why they have these 2 schools and they cannot decide
08:25 They cannot decide which is which!
08:27 Personally, I believe that it's the progesterone that's high
08:32 that causes it, but it's not for me to say...
08:35 I'm only one little ant. Why do you believe that?
08:40 It's because progesterone is released in the second half
08:44 of the cycle... Which is when we get the symptoms.
08:46 That's when you get the symptoms. Right
08:48 But the thing is, the lowering of the estrogen,
08:51 even if progesterone is there...
08:53 So if you have a person who is on the slim side,
08:56 it might be progesterone is the predominant thing.
08:59 If you have a person who is on the heavy side,
09:02 it could be that this were estrogen
09:05 being the predominant thing.
09:07 Okay, so either way, we're not going to be getting
09:09 shots of the compound that we have too little of. No-no
09:11 So either way, we've got an imbalance,
09:13 and so what we need to do is really think about
09:15 how we can correct this imbalance throughout the month
09:18 so that when it comes to ovulation and the phase
09:21 just preceding menstruation, we can breathe a sigh of relief
09:24 and so can our husbands and boyfriends,
09:27 and not have to leave the house!
09:29 They know when... "She's getting it again"
09:32 "It's that time"
09:34 "It's that time, I have to tighten my belt"
09:37 Okay, so let's talk about lifestyle management...
09:40 What can we do that's really going to
09:42 not only eliminate, hopefully, most of the symptoms,
09:45 but make us feel better?
09:47 We cannot overemphasize food being really a very big
09:53 portion - I mean cause of all our problems,
09:57 so especially when you say "salt"
10:01 This is for the physical part of it yet.
10:03 Salt tends to keep water in your body.
10:09 So, you get congestion, you get bloatedness.
10:12 So therefore, in the middle of your cycle,
10:15 when you start in the middle of your cycle,
10:17 day 14- if you would want to say - you know that you're
10:20 going there - start controlling your salt intake -
10:24 so that the end would be you won't be keeping
10:28 too much water, you won't get so much bloating,
10:31 you won't get too much congestion.
10:33 So you're not just talking about table salt,
10:35 and adding it to the food, but you're talking about the
10:37 hidden sodium in canned foods. Yes-yes
10:40 Almost all our processed foods contains sodium.
10:42 If you look on your labels you find that. Yes
10:44 Make it a habit to always look how many grams of sodium
10:49 you have in your food, because it's really a lot hidden
10:53 Right, and cutting down on pretzels, all those crinkly bags
10:57 Okay so salt is one of the main culprits. Yes!
11:00 SUGAR - the opposite!
11:03 Sweet food - well, I don't know about you,
11:06 but I do have a sweet tooth!
11:08 It's hard to get the control, but you have to develop habits.
11:15 You have to develop a pattern of thinking that...
11:17 "This is not good for me around this time"
11:20 ...It's never good for you anyway.
11:22 But EXTRA CARE in the second half of your cycle
11:26 because that's when it can wreak havoc the most.
11:33 And again, there's sugar in many
11:35 of our supposedly savory products.
11:37 Yes, besides when you have a lot of sugar,
11:39 it leaches you of your vitamins and minerals.
11:42 In order to metabolize all the sugar to make it
11:46 available to your body and get rid of it or whatever,
11:49 store it somehow, you will need more vitamins and minerals...
11:53 So then you would be leaching your body of that.
11:55 So imagine how bad you would be feeling
11:57 towards the beginning of your menses...
12:00 you know - towards the end of your cycle.
12:03 On that sugar point, what about artificial sweeteners -
12:06 ...sorbitol, aspartame? Yes
12:10 The problem with especially aspartame is it inhibits
12:17 or rather it is something that grabs or - no it's not grab...
12:22 It gets in the way of tryptophan.
12:27 tryptophan is the precursor for the serotonin,
12:31 the good hormone. That's makes you feel good!
12:32 Yeah - the feel-good-hormone serotonin comes from tryptophan,
12:38 and aspartame inhibits tryptophan
12:41 from becoming serotonin.
12:43 So you're going to feel even worse after using
12:45 artificial sweeteners like aspartame.
12:47 Unfortunately, we don't want to gain weight,
12:49 we go to aspartame but it works on our
12:52 tryptophan - serotonin problems happen.
12:55 Okay, so we need to be reading labels,
12:57 making sure we know what we're consuming.
13:00 All that hidden sugar, there's so much hidden sugar
13:02 in our diet, you'd be amazed.
13:03 Okay, what about spicy foods?
13:05 Oh! Can you imagine!
13:07 I can imagine, I love spicy food.
13:10 I can eat spicy food but I KNOW right after
13:14 I eat spicy food, I become...
13:16 you know - you become tense and irritable.
13:19 And imagine what it's doing in your tummy,
13:21 and does in your intestines.
13:23 It is something that EXCITES you!
13:27 Makes you even MORE sensitive...
13:29 So you get irritable, even your brain becomes
13:32 irritable brain.
13:34 So you become what you eat. Yes - FIREY
13:39 And if we're already naturally a little bit fiery,
13:41 we certainly don't want to make it worse.
13:45 Other facts that can exacerbate the problem...
13:47 ALCOHOL also leaches us of our vitamins and minerals,
13:54 and it's stored in fat...
13:56 So, it's not helping you one bit - you know.
13:59 And caffeine too - it causes your sympathetic nervous system
14:08 to be working overtime.
14:10 And it also, the same way as sugar does,
14:14 the same way as alcohol does,
14:16 it also leaches you.
14:18 In order to get rid of these, in order for your body to
14:20 work by the stimulation of the caffeine,
14:23 you are using up your stored vitamins and minerals...
14:27 And it's very important for us to refrain from taking
14:30 these substances.
14:33 When you talk about the sympathetic nervous system,
14:35 I always used to think... Well, sympathetic sounds like
14:37 it relaxes and giving you sympathy,
14:39 making you feel better, but it's actually the opposite.
14:42 It's the parasympathetic that calms you down.
14:45 Sympathetic is one that makes you GO - you're ready to FIGHT!
14:50 That's the one that's highly stimulated at this
14:52 phase in the cycle.
14:53 You don't want to... Okay, I got it!
14:56 So, now let's talk about
14:57 chocolate again... that's another one.
14:59 We talked about that on the last program.
15:00 That is personal to me because I used to be a
15:03 chocoholic... Oh you did? I did.
15:05 I could eat a bag of chocolate. Really?
15:07 Tastes good! I think I was the same.
15:12 So what's wrong with taking chocolate
15:14 to relieve some of the symptoms?
15:15 I mean - what are the negatives?
15:17 OH, not everybody loves dark chocolate besides,
15:21 and nobody wants chocolate without sugar.
15:23 It's too bitter...
15:24 But it's the dark chocolate that they say is good...
15:27 The lesser the sugar - yes, they say because it's
15:29 rich in magnesium, but there is other stuff
15:32 that they put on your chocolate -
15:34 ...the sugar and additives and whatever that
15:40 in the end you would rather not have the chocolate.
15:43 Okay, so what's the alternative?
15:44 For everything we're giving up,
15:45 there's got to be something better!
15:49 We said chocolate is rich in magnesium.
15:55 Of course vegetables - green leafy vegetables
16:00 are very rich in magnesium, very rich in calcium,
16:03 very rich in manganese; all good for the PMS.
16:06 So I'm just going to eat them when I'm having the symptoms?
16:09 NO - you've got to have them
16:10 Again, prevention - prevention is better than cure!
16:14 You've got to have a stock of it before so that
16:17 your body can have it.
16:18 You don't look for it when you need it.
16:20 It's already there because you were
16:22 taking care of your body BEFORE it even happened.
16:25 And of course, you've got all the other benefits
16:26 from the vegetables including
16:28 fiber to relieve constipation and so on. That's so true!
16:31 So you mentioned earlier about tryptophan...
16:33 This is the precursor to serotonin. Yes
16:36 It helps us to feel good.
16:38 Where can we get that tryptophan from so we can feel good?
16:43 Pumpkin seeds is one of the richest plant foods
16:51 that has tryptophan.
16:53 And many of the seeds, you know, the small ones;
16:57 sesame, sunflower, chia, flaxseeds - they are very rich,
17:05 and all the other legumes and nuts are rich.
17:11 So if you have a balanced diet, even of the plant food,
17:16 you know - from the plant food,
17:18 you would have enough tryptophan to help you.
17:21 So are there any other ways that we can maximize
17:23 the serotonin level besides the diet?
17:26 You've got the diet all sorted out and everything is going well
17:29 Oh - SUNSHINE!
17:31 Sunshine really helps you;
17:33 it brings up your serotonin level.
17:35 EXERCISE!
17:37 Exercise is VERY important.
17:39 It helps, you know, your well-being
17:42 which practically is your better endorphins,
17:46 and your serotonin.
17:47 Sleep early so that your body can work and recover,
17:50 and make these hormones - you have to make these things.
17:53 And as we mentioned earlier, many of us are overweight...
17:56 I, myself, was very overweight at one time in my life,
17:59 and I'm sure that contributed
18:01 to my PMS problems. Me too Oh really, you too?
18:05 Yes, I don't want to think about it,
18:06 but it WAS there - it was there at one time.
18:10 Okay, so we want to encourage those of you that are watching
18:13 Maybe you want to lose a few pounds,
18:14 losing them will really help EVERY aspect of your life,
18:18 not just the premenstrual syndrome,
18:20 as symptoms that you may be experiencing but many other
18:23 aspects of your overall health as well.
18:26 So, are there any other exercises that
18:28 you could recommend specifically to help us to relax
18:31 It's really very important that
18:33 you have REGULAR moderate exercises.
18:35 Don't push yourself beyond your limit, that's important...
18:39 And stretching and relaxing because you're stressed now,
18:45 so you get to do relaxing exercises and deep-breathing
18:51 exercises so that you have more oxygen to your brain.
18:54 Even deep-breathing already helps regulate
18:57 your circulation throughout your body.
18:59 And what about hydrotherapy?
19:03 I'm just wondering because PMS is a syndrome
19:06 that lasts for 2 weeks or so,
19:08 so it's really half of a woman's life.
19:10 Is there any hydrotherapy she can use
19:12 during those 2 weeks that will help it to be eliminated?
19:17 I believe... I'm convinced that hot foot baths
19:25 yes - like for the menstruation is very good.
19:28 Then if you can do it every day
19:30 around the time you are having your menses.
19:33 But you could have, prior to that,
19:35 you could have hot and cold shower...
19:38 Every day, every morning, I believe that every morning
19:41 if you have a good shower - hot and cold;
19:45 3 minutes of hot and 30 seconds of cold;
19:50 like 3 or 4 changes.
19:53 This gives you... it's like making your body
19:57 be ready for whatever is coming throughout the day
20:01 for all your systems.
20:03 It sounds very stimulating. Yes, it is!
20:05 It helps your body come to par, you would say,
20:07 and optimum work in its optimum.
20:10 It's simple actually.
20:11 Turn to shower to hot for 3 minutes;
20:13 and then turn it down to 30 seconds,
20:15 then turn it hot again for 3 minutes, turn it down...
20:18 3 to 4 in the first half of your cycle that would be
20:22 really good, then you could have your
20:23 hot foot bath towards the second half of your menses.
20:26 Okay, what about sitz baths?
20:28 I mean, we hear about sitz baths.
20:30 Yes, if your bloating is really bad,
20:33 then you could have your sitz bath.
20:34 You know, you have your big tub and you sit down
20:38 into the tub and it should be deep - up to your navel...
20:43 deep in the tub, your butt goes into the big tub
20:46 that is ICE COLD! 15- 1-2-3... 15 seconds!
20:53 No, it is one of the best things that can help you
20:57 with your bloating - one of the BEST things!
21:00 How does that work physiologically?
21:02 It constricts all the blood vessels
21:05 and it makes the blood go to your circulation.
21:07 Then your bloating, your problem here will just subside.
21:13 You'd be wide awake after that kind of treatment! Yeah!
21:16 Now what about herbal agents?
21:18 This is the bit that you and I love,
21:20 we love studying about herbs.
21:21 So lets tell our viewers which herbs can really, really help,
21:24 and I have my own experience with this as well.
21:26 One of the best herbs - you know I'm not really an
21:31 herb specialist but I read Hoffmann, I read Duke
21:37 and one of the things that stuck in my mind is
21:40 you know 3 or 4 herbs and you know them WELL,
21:44 especially those that are easy to come by with - you know
21:48 And I think chasteberry or Vitex, ginkgo and dong quai
21:56 ...you have a conglomeration of 3 working together.
22:00 The mixture of ginkgo, dong quai and chasteberry
22:04 is very, very effective for PMS.
22:09 It's because they work on your hormones. Right
22:13 So they get to the CAUSE of the problem
22:15 rather than just dealing with the symptom. Yes
22:17 And just for our viewers, to clarify that the
22:19 chasteberry is otherwise known as the Vitex.
22:22 It's actually the same herb; so it's sometimes marketed as
22:25 Vitex, sometimes it's chasteberry,
22:27 and if I could just share at this point...
22:29 I had severe PMS, as I've mentioned,
22:31 and I'm not a herbalist, I can't recommend,
22:34 but this is what I did... I can tell you what I did.
22:36 I took a cup of the Vitex berries, the chasteberries,
22:40 put them in quart of water and just brought them to the
22:43 boil and then simmer for 20 minutes...
22:45 and then strained off the berries keep the liquid,
22:48 and it's a concentrate, and I added some
22:50 blackstrap molasses to make a whole quart
22:52 of the concentrate and keep it in the fridge...
22:55 And I would just take 3 tablespoons twice a day
22:57 throughout my cycle and I got results right away.
23:00 Absolutely NO symptoms, nothing - it was amazing!
23:04 So I just want to share that because I REALLY know
23:06 and I have confidence that these herbs
23:07 really do... Yeah, they do work.
23:09 We see a lot in Wildwood doing these things.
23:12 You've seen these herbs, a lot of women who suffer
23:15 from PMS - they do well after they take the herb.
23:20 But I have to say... You have to do all the rest
23:24 of the lifestyle changes.
23:25 Okay, you can't just use the herb like a drug.
23:28 Usually the herb is something that we fall back to
23:33 like you would do Tylenol or an antidepressant drug.
23:38 But that's not the way it's supposed to be...
23:40 because regular lifestyle would already even help you.
23:44 You might not even need your herbs anymore
23:47 if you were really doing your lifestyle changes
23:50 with real conviction.
23:51 Right, that's a very good point,
23:53 Dr. Cherie Lon that it's very easy for us to just take herbs
23:57 as though they were a medicine just like we would a drug,
23:59 and think it would take care of our neglecting other areas...
24:02 But you know, there really is a blessing in the Scripture that
24:04 if we, in Deuteronomy 7, that if we diligently hearken to
24:09 all these judgments or laws that God has given us...
24:12 and you've really described to us what are the laws that
24:15 God has put in our body to govern us that we may be well
24:18 the promise is that He will bless the womb. Yes, He will.
24:21 And everything associated with the womb,
24:23 which of course, is PMS...
24:25 So we can just take that blessing, take that promise,
24:27 along with doing all we can and expect the Lord
24:30 to really bless us.
24:31 I can truly say that's what He has done in my experience,
24:34 and I'm very thankful.
24:36 Well, Dr. Cherie Lon, is there anything else that you feel
24:38 that our viewers would really benefit from knowing
24:40 regarding PMS - maybe you can give a word
24:42 for the husbands out there.
24:44 The husbands who need to know how to take care of her.
24:48 Yes, you see, a woman - Let me re-phrase...
24:53 God created Eve to be Adam's helpmeet, right?
25:00 It's not that she was supposed to lord over him.
25:03 He got her from the rib, because she was supposed
25:06 to be somebody he was to love.
25:11 So she can only be a helpmeet to him only as much as
25:17 he is supportive to her!
25:19 OH, that's a very interesting point!
25:21 So how can she help him if she's writhing in pain,
25:26 she's crying like mad.
25:28 The husband says - "You're not functioning,
25:31 you're - you're you're!
25:32 It cannot be - the husband has to be supportive of his wife,
25:35 understanding all these...
25:38 And supporting her - okay... "Honey, let's go walking"
25:42 "Honey, let's drink our water"
25:43 "Honey, let's sleep early"
25:45 "Honey, let's eat this, instead of this"
25:48 And he's going to get the benefit too! EXACTLY!
25:50 Not only his wife, both of them! Right
25:53 Imagine having your wife's endocrine system working well...
25:57 yours would too!
25:58 If you don't take care of your woman,
26:00 she won't take care of you!
26:02 Okay, but what about taking care of yourself?
26:04 How are you going to take care of yourself when it comes to
26:07 food and wanting to snack and...
26:09 Oh, because we feel bloated and we're usually overweight
26:16 and you want to lose weight because you know losing weight
26:18 will help you, then you start dieting - going into dieting.
26:23 Is that the answer?
26:25 Oh, maybe, but you know what we usually do is...
26:28 We don't eat, you know?
26:31 Today, I'll only eat an apple.
26:34 And then, you're depriving yourself of the nutrients
26:37 your body needs for the day.
26:39 And finally, when your body is saying - "I NEED FOOD"
26:43 and you've not eaten for some time, drinking water,
26:46 only lemon water and just this little food,
26:49 just this little ice, what do you call this...
26:52 juice drink to lose weight.
26:55 But you're really, really hungry.
26:58 What are you going to do? Danger!
27:01 Because then, when you see food you...
27:03 then you start eating and make up for
27:06 the food that you didn't eat for how many days...
27:09 That's going to just ruin EVERYTHING.
27:12 When you don't eat regularly, which is really the key.
27:17 Don't deprive yourself of eating.
27:20 Just eat the right amount and eat regularly.
27:24 We eat regularly - A LOT!
27:27 Regularly and moderately and a balanced diet,
27:30 but never deprive yourself, it will make problems.
27:35 So that's the key!
27:36 Regularity and temperance in all things.
27:39 Thank you Dr. Cherie Lon.
27:40 And thank you viewers for joining us today.
27:42 Please remember, God has promised to
27:45 bless the fruit of your womb
27:46 as you diligently hearken to these principles.
27:49 God bless you.


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