Participants: James Marcum & Danny Miller
Series Code: WM
Program Code: WM000386
00:01 The following program presents principles
00:03 designed to promote good health and is not 00:04 intended to take the place of personalized 00:06 professional care. The opinions and ideas 00:09 expressed are those of the speaker. 00:12 Viewers are encouraged to draw their own 00:13 conclusions about the information presented. 00:37 The psalmist David says praise God for 00:40 I'm fearfully and wonderfully made. 00:43 What a great Psalm to have. 00:46 I wanna welcome you to Wonderfully Made. 00:48 I'm Doctor Jim Marcum and I want to 00:49 thank you so much for inviting us into 00:52 your home to be with you, 00:53 to listen to the health message. 00:56 Today we have an interesting topic. 00:58 I'm a cardiologist; normally I don't talk 01:00 about fields outside of cardiology but today 01:03 we're gonna talk about integrative medicine. 01:06 I find this very fascinating and it's 01:08 growing by leaps and bounds across America. 01:11 And here with us to discuss 01:12 it is Mr. Daniel Miller. And I wanna thank you 01:15 for joining this Dan. Thank you Jim. Listen, 01:17 while you're here today? Tell me little bit about 01:20 Heartwise Ministries. What's that all about? 01:22 Heartwise Ministries is a ministry that has been 01:26 started as a result of the books that you 01:29 have been writing. It was founded in 2005. 01:33 And it's based on truth, biblical principles of 01:39 truth, biblical principles of health, 01:42 so and so forth, truth, love and then healing. 01:46 Heartwise Ministries is a ministry that approaches 01:52 people with the different thought process, okay. 01:55 One that does away with say guilt, so and so forth. 02:00 So it starts with truth, correct, 02:02 and truth leads to love. Now I see a lot of 02:06 people talking about love in this world. 02:08 Okay but you know talking about it and showing 02:10 love is two, two different things, 02:12 two different readings, correct. 02:13 One of my definitions of love is putting 02:16 someone else's interest about yourself, right. 02:20 Okay, and of course the opposite of love 02:21 we see is selfishness, correct. 02:23 And we see a lot of that. Now part of the 02:26 truth is not believing lies, correct. 02:29 You know, and I see that all the time in healthcare. 02:32 You know some people believe in a low fat, 02:34 high fat will work better for you, 02:36 or take this vitamin or this herb will do 02:39 better than you, right. And I also see that 02:41 damaging the body because they believe 02:42 for instance if you believe that a 02:45 cigarette was gonna get you better. 02:46 If you really believe that, that would damage you, 02:49 correct, 'cause of course the cigarette's gonna 02:51 damage you. Well you can also take these, 02:53 the health principles into the spiritual world, 02:55 right. Now can you imagine if you believed, 02:58 for instance if you believe that you 02:59 had to earn your way into heaven. 03:02 That was a perfect example and it damages, 03:05 your burnt. You know, you thought processes 03:07 and that's exactly what Heartwise Ministries 03:10 is trying to get across, a ministry that approaches 03:15 things from a very basic simple direction. 03:18 And that's, I think God wanted our healthcare 03:22 to be simple, right. And there is more to 03:24 healing than just healing a physical body. 03:27 You know healing the spiritual self is what's 03:29 happening in the mind. With that in mind 03:31 Heartwise Ministries gathers questions that 03:34 people might have from all around the world. 03:36 And if you might happen to have a question, 03:38 make sure you get your questions into us. 03:41 We're now on the web at heartwiseministries.org. 03:45 www.heartwis eministries.org. 03:48 you can send your questions and what we do 03:50 is we group them around topics 03:52 and we try to answer these questions 03:54 from a biblical perspective. 03:56 Some people around the world don't have anyone 03:58 with healthcare knowledge or background 04:00 to go to, to give them a biblical perspective. 04:03 Very good, that's very good, yes. Okay. 04:05 Let's start with the first question. 04:07 Okay, the first question is from 04:09 Anne in Tampa, Florida. Okay. 04:11 I listen to the radio a lot, 04:13 especially on Sundays. I listen to Deborah Ray 04:16 and Robert Scott Bell, okay. I usually listen, 04:21 it says loosely listen, okay. 04:25 They talk about integrative medicine. 04:27 This is very interesting. I'm not sure I know 04:31 what this is, what is your take on this? 04:33 Okay, that is a great question and because 04:36 many people now are using integrative medicine 04:41 to take care of themselves. 04:42 Another word for it is sometimes they call it 04:44 complimentary medicine or some people 04:47 call it alternative medicine. 04:49 But I'm not sure that it really is alternative 04:51 medicine Dan. And let me sort of explain 04:53 to Anne what my take is on it? Years ago 04:58 when someone was sick, and the doctor there 05:01 used to sort of minister to all their needs. 05:04 Their physical needs, their spiritual needs, 05:06 or emotional needs, usually use all sorts of 05:09 tricks of the trade, right. And there wasn't 05:11 as many trick "tricks" as a trade as 05:13 there is now, right. Now I was trained in 05:18 traditional medicine where we use a lot of 05:20 pharmaceuticals, and unfortunately many 05:23 are just trained in that discipline. 05:25 But if you think about pharmaceuticals there 05:27 and pharmaceuticals change the chemical environment 05:30 in their body. Now there's other ways that 05:33 can also change the chemical environment 05:36 in the body. Now let's think, can you think 05:37 of one that would change the chemistry 05:39 of the body Dan. I would think positive 05:41 thought process. Exactly, your thought, 05:43 your mental outlook. Your mind is a very 05:45 powerful tool for you. Right, and one 05:47 example of that is the placebo effect, 05:50 correct. You know if you believe you're 05:51 gonna get better, one in four to five will get 05:55 better. That's pretty high percentage actually. 05:57 Yeah, and that's a lot of this is you know 05:59 it might be that the medicine is working, 06:01 it's that belief that you're being healed 06:03 that's working. Correct, right. Similarly not only 06:05 placebo effects but we've also shown that 06:07 in patients that healing touches occur. 06:10 Whether you know if I touch you and you believe 06:12 in me and I say Dan you're gonna get better. 06:14 This is not a problem, it's gonna be gone tomorrow, 06:17 right. There is a powerful belief just to have that 06:19 reassurance that all of a sudden 06:21 that symptom is gone. Being told by somebody 06:23 that knows what they're talking about 06:24 that is very powerful. For instance I deal with 06:27 a lot of people with chest pain, and sometimes 06:30 I can come to them and I know beyond a shadow 06:32 of a doubt that this chest pain is not coming 06:34 from the heart. I know it's coming from stress. 06:37 But by doing a test or proving it to them 06:39 you know I can say I give them that assurance. 06:42 This you know you are assured, your chemistry 06:44 gets better when you have assurance, right. 06:47 Now so we talked, you know other ways you can 06:49 change your chemistry, you know getting back 06:51 to that, you can change your chemistry by exercise, 06:53 correct. The food you eat. How well you rest. 06:59 Your spiritual status. I think a lot of things 07:01 even down to the relationships that 07:03 you have with friends, exactly 07:05 family and so and so forth, I think they have 07:06 major impact on how you feel in your life. 07:09 So all of that you know comprises health. 07:12 So anything that changes your chemistry 07:14 can be effective by this integrative medicine. 07:16 For instance the herbs you know integrative 07:18 medicine uses a lot of herbs in their use. 07:22 But herbs are very similar to medicine, 07:24 they change the chemical environment, correct. 07:26 Some people out there are using magnets 07:29 which I don't believe, I don't think that 07:31 changes your chemical environment. 07:32 They've done studies on that? Yes, they have done 07:34 studies on the magnets. The studies have not shown 07:37 that they have any proven clinical benefit 07:39 other than maybe a placebo benefit, right. 07:42 What are other things acupressure, 07:45 chiropractor you know manipulating bones, 07:46 correct, massage for instance you know if 07:49 you know the other day you told me you had 07:51 a kink in your shoulder, okay. When it's massaged, 07:54 the body releases chemicals that help 07:57 you now for instance if someone hurt your 07:59 arm what's the first thing you do. 08:00 You rub, rub it, when you rub it you releases, 08:03 natural healing substances. 08:05 So that's the very important, right. 08:07 A lot of people don't realize that you can 08:09 change your chemistry just by laughing. 08:11 You know if you get a good belly laugh. 08:12 What does that cause? It releases endorphins, 08:15 okay. You'll get a lot of endorphins so I tell 08:18 people to just; you know go around 08:19 laughing especially if you're in pain. 08:21 How do endorphins work? Endorphins are the 08:23 natural pain killers that the body produces. 08:27 It's sort of the natural stress hormone. 08:28 That's basically what we're talking about it. 08:30 Yes, yeah is exactly, so in my take on 08:33 integrative or complementary medicine and 08:36 would be anything that changes the body's 08:38 chemical from whatever means 08:41 is seen as integrative medicine. 08:43 I'm putting a bunch of these modalities together, 08:47 we've got this integrative approach and I think 08:49 this is the best way if you can rule out 08:51 what's true and what's not true, correct. 08:54 So I have this problem of you know you see all 08:56 these ads on the paper Dan, I met the Millvina 08:59 you know this is guy touting you know 09:00 high clarets, have you heard that one, yeah. 09:02 What is that all about? Well I think we got a 09:04 question that will approach that. 09:06 Well we'll talk about. 09:07 We may be hearing a little bit. 09:08 I'm not sure if I wanna go there right now. 09:10 Well I don't wanna go but the point is your hear 09:13 about these things. Exactly, let me ask you 09:14 this, what are some of the negative and the positive 09:17 outcomes of integrative medicine? Well some of the 09:20 positive outcomes is it merges the truth in a 09:23 lot of different worlds, right. 09:25 Okay for instance, if you can accomplish the 09:28 same thing without taking any medication 09:30 with the side effects. Let's say you can 09:32 lower your blood pressure and cut your 09:35 stress down by regular exercise and proper 09:37 rest and drink enough water wouldn't that be 09:40 better than taking a blood pressure medicine, yes. 09:42 Well that could be an integrative approach, 09:44 and how about for chronic back pain? 09:46 If you can see a chiropractor that could 09:48 manipulate certain ways and release medications 09:51 or deep massage that could you know help 09:54 the pain that way, wouldn't that might be 09:56 better than a pain medication, right. 09:57 It gets to the core of the problem. 09:59 But likewise integrative medicine I think also has 10:02 to work on someone's spiritual side. 10:05 I believe so. Because you know you talked about 10:06 all those things that damage, so I think 10:08 that in knowing the truth and that's what 10:10 I've done looked at, well how do you know the truth? 10:12 Well I go back, you know I try to go back in all 10:15 these decisions go back to the Bible, 10:16 the real source of truth. And prayer and the 10:19 Holy Spirit helping you through your problems. 10:21 Exactly, because you know, I admit the more 10:23 you learn, the less you know. 10:26 And I feel like as all these areas I know 10:28 so much less now than I used to, 10:30 I almost feel humbled. And the only way I can do 10:32 it is you know look at the data 10:34 that's available, right. Pray about it, ask about 10:37 what the truth and let God really 10:39 lead me in love, right. But you know that's 10:41 one thing that I think is a universal healing, 10:44 that is the word love. You know God is love 10:47 I mean. Of course yes biblically, 10:49 God is a principle. You know gives us, 10:50 gives you that assurance and I think that's 10:52 a healing force in itself, right. 10:54 But those are all the components and it makes up 10:57 integrative medicine and more but I think 10:59 we're gonna hear so much more about this because 11:01 I think people want to get 11:02 at the cause of their diseases. 11:05 They're tired of taking pills, they're tired of 11:07 having procedures that they 11:09 want to be whole again. And this is an alternative 11:13 way to do that. Right, and I think you're gonna 11:14 hear a lot more about this over the next 11:16 couple of years. Right, and let's go to, 11:18 to the next question. This is from Allen 11:21 in England, okay. Allen says my home is in 11:25 England, in London. My cholesterol level 11:28 has been high for several years, okay. 11:31 I have taken numerous medications but they 11:33 mess up my liver function. Are there ways to lower 11:37 cholesterol other than medication? Okay. 11:39 I guess my question to you right after that 11:41 would be what's cholesterol, 11:44 and how does that effect us, 11:45 how would it effect us? That's good, okay. 11:47 Well cholesterol is a substance that's made 11:50 up of lipids or fats, and unfortunately in 11:53 the last several years our diet has changed 11:56 to the point where we're taking in too much fat. 11:59 You know I talk about fast food but now 12:02 it should be called fat food, right. 12:04 You know 80 million people are eating 12:06 this stuff everyday. And we don't exercise 12:09 as much to burn off our fats, so the fats have 12:11 to go somewhere. I know a fellow the other day 12:14 that I bumped into and I says, well 12:16 how do you eat. And he says well you know I eat, 12:19 he ate at Hardee's some biscuits and gravy, right. 12:22 At lunch he has a burger, some hamburgers, 12:24 at night he didn't get off work till about 8'o clock 12:27 at night. So he had his big meal at night. 12:29 You know heavy stuff, right, right. 12:30 And usually had some ice cream with the meal 12:33 at night and then he went to bed. 12:36 Is this something that you recommend? No. No. 12:38 I don't recommend that stuff. 12:40 But anyway if you think about, now he didn't know 12:42 about it, bless his heart, yeah, yeah. 12:43 And I was trying to you know give him a 12:44 glimmer of truth, but if you do this over and over, 12:46 this cholesterol or fats have to 12:48 be stored somewhere. Well unfortunately it's 12:51 being stored in the arteries of the heart 12:53 which can cause cardiovascular disease, 12:56 in the artery of the necks; it could cause all 12:59 sorts of problems. Not to mention that 13:01 if you take this caloric inputs sooner or later 13:03 you're gonna be obese, right. So my approach 13:07 to him was, this is what cholesterol does, 13:08 it clogs up your system. So now Allen's question 13:12 was is there ways to lower his cholesterol 13:13 without taking a medication, correct. 13:16 Now most of the cholesterol medicines 13:17 out there are called Statins, okay and they 13:20 do work in the enzyme systems in the liver and 13:24 they can cause abnormalities 13:26 in the liver function. So that's why if you're on 13:28 a Statin, you usually have your liver checked 13:30 every so often, right, on depending what that is. 13:33 Well he can't take it safely 13:34 'cause it hurts his liver. 13:35 Now other things can bring down cholesterol nicely. 13:37 And this is where you know you sort of 13:39 integrate different approaches. Correct, 13:42 such as exercise. Do you ever view 13:45 exercise as a medication? I believe very possibly. 13:49 Yeah. I mean physiologically exercise 13:51 does a number of good things for the body. 13:53 It lowers blood pressure; it loses weight, 13:54 cuts your stress level, so exercise 13:56 would be treated as a medication. Right, 13:59 eating correctly, that's kind of a no brainer there. 14:02 Well but that's hard in our society. 14:04 Well yes, we have. I don't know what they eat 14:05 in London, England but I'm sure that their 14:08 diet is not that dissimilar from 14:09 what we're eating here, right. 14:11 And there are some other natural herbs. 14:13 Let me talk about couple of those, okay. 14:15 A lot of people don't know that soy products, 14:18 soy products can lower your cholesterol, 14:21 okay soy products. Such as soy milk, soy milk, 14:26 soy beans, soy butter, anything that's made 14:29 of soy that can lower, okay. There ae these 14:32 substances in India, they do something for 14:34 ear called a Guggul gum, right. 14:37 It's Guggul and that helps lower cholesterol there. 14:39 Now there is one that you hear a lot about 14:41 call red yeast rice. That lowers cholesterol but 14:44 it has the same compound that our statins have 14:47 in it, right. So it can also affect your liver. 14:50 So Allen that you would probably 14:51 one he wouldn't want to take. 14:52 Right, now let me ask you this. 14:58 Taking these natural products along with 15:01 medications that he is already on, 15:03 would that cause any conflict? It could, 15:06 it could because you know remember 15:08 upfront we said all of these things you put in 15:11 your body from whatever stimulus you can, 15:13 they can always change your chemistry. 15:16 So if you change your chemistry with the 15:17 medication, change it with herbs, sometimes 15:20 they could both work together and harm 15:22 you even more, right. So I do these herbs as 15:25 similar to prescription medications. 15:28 So he has got to be very careful about what he 15:30 might use as, that you mentioned that 15:31 as an alternative. Yeah because some of these 15:33 can be very dangerous, but you know, 15:34 we know that exercise is not gonna hurt, no. 15:37 We know that soy products on your food. 15:39 And you know there are some nuts that are been 15:41 down very protective, specifically the two that 15:44 I really highly promote is walnuts 15:46 and almonds, correct. And in some studies 15:48 they have lowered the chance of having a 15:50 heart attack by up to 50 percent. That's a huge. 15:53 You know but you don't hear as much 15:54 about eating nuts. You know you hear about 15:56 taking a statin which lowers it too, right. 15:59 But you know, well the statin is a easy way to go. 16:01 Right, but now think about this, diet for years 16:04 changes the body's chemistry. 16:06 Now we talked about soy lowering cholesterol, 16:08 nuts helping you, water is a tremendous thing 16:11 to take too for treatment of disease right, right. 16:14 Okay, let's move to next one. 16:17 Okay this next question comes from 16:19 Carter in Tennessee. Does Coenzyme Q10 16:23 make you heart stronger? My grandma told me 16:26 I should be taking this, 16:28 I don't have heart problems. 16:30 My grandma also says 16:32 I should take tons of vitamins. 16:34 He says help. Oh you know. What is Coenzyme Q10? 16:38 Oh Coenzyme Q10 is a substance that's naturally 16:41 released by the body that helps muscle function. 16:45 When should it be used? Well if there is a 16:47 deficiency in Coenzyme Q10 it uses. 16:50 It's never been proven to help heart beat 16:52 stronger but a lot of people think 16:54 it might work, right. And that's what 16:55 interesting about integrative medicine Dan 16:58 is most of the studies have never been done, 17:01 because there is no one who will fund the study, 17:03 to study whether this therapy works better 17:05 than this therapy and actually see how the 17:07 interactions occur, right. But back now I do 17:10 use Coenzyme Q10 sometimes. 17:12 For instance if I had a person that had high 17:14 cholesterol and they started having muscle 17:17 soreness, I might give him Coenzyme Q10, right. 17:20 Some athletes that have muscle soreness deplete 17:23 Coenzyme Q10 they benefit from it, correct. 17:25 If a person did have a weak heart and 17:27 there was nothing else to do, I don't think 17:29 it would hurt any and if few studies 17:31 have suggested that it might do some good. 17:33 Now why would an athlete deplete that? 17:35 Well because they use up their muscle. 17:38 You know you just, they exercise all something 17:40 I don't do but they exercise all the time 17:42 they get soreness, right. You know soreness 17:44 in their muscles that's they are tearing 17:46 their muscles down, right. But now getting back 17:48 to her question about, tons of vitamins 17:51 I mean lots of people take 17:53 tons of vitamins now. 17:55 And what I've been telling people is, 17:56 you know there's lot of supplements out there 17:59 for vitamins but God made that if you eat 18:01 fresh fruits, grains. You get balanced diet. 18:03 Right with the wide variety of colors, 18:05 right, you get all of the nutrients that you need. 18:08 Now conversely, a lot of people don't eat that way. 18:11 Right, well it's very difficult. 18:13 And in those people that don't eat that way 18:14 I do think they benefit from taking 18:16 vitamin supplements, right. 18:18 Now lot of people think though that you 18:20 are better absorbed if you eat your vitamins, right. 18:23 Let me ask you this, yeah. Is it possible 18:26 that there are other supplements out there 18:28 that do make the heart stronger also. 18:29 Oh yeah, there are supplements out there 18:31 some we know about, some that we don't 18:33 know about, correct. That are out there that 18:35 make the heart stronger in different 18:37 types of ways, correct. 18:38 Okay that was a good question from Carter. 18:41 You know another side comment, 18:44 there was a generations differ I believe 18:48 on vitamin intake. Oh yeah. I know the older 18:51 generation seem to push vitamins on 18:53 and the newer generation seem to go for the 18:56 medication. But you know the newer 18:58 generation probably eats worse than the 18:59 older generation now, correct. 19:01 You know they don't use much fruit, 19:02 fresh vegetables, salads that get all the 19:05 vitamins that you need, right. 19:07 Okay, next question. Over the last few years 19:11 my blood pressure has been running high. 19:13 I took a prescription medication but it 19:15 made me nauseated and weak. Are there 19:18 any natural measures I can take to lower my 19:21 blood pressure? This comes from 19:23 Stephanie in New Zealand. 19:24 That's a great question Stephanie and I get 19:27 that all the time. The medicines that you 19:30 take none of them are free. They all come 19:32 with some baggage; they all come with 19:33 side effects, correct. You know it does one 19:36 thing but it alters your chemistry just we've 19:38 talked about. Unfortunately when I 19:40 talked to people about lowering their 19:41 blood pressure naturally Dan. What do they 19:43 do? Well sometimes they don't like it. 19:45 For instance the first thing I like people to do 19:47 is I cut out all the substances that can 19:50 make you blood pressure go high, right. 19:51 I ask them if they smoke, consider not smoking. 19:54 Caffeine raises up the blood pressure. 19:57 How about stresses in life. 19:58 Stress in life raises blood pressure, 20:00 salt or sodium content, right. 20:02 And a lot of people say oh I don't salt my food, 20:04 but they eat a lot of canned foods, correct, 20:06 packet foods, processed food, all of them 20:08 have sodium in it. So, first I say well can you 20:11 exercise do this can you do the rest first. 20:13 You know unfortunately most people say 20:16 I don't want to do that I'd rather take a 20:17 medicine. It's the easy way out. 20:19 Now that's a sad state, you know and I say 20:21 well you know our bodies weren't 20:23 design to take all this. They were design 20:25 for this natural health that God did, 20:28 and we break these laws more 20:30 bad things happen, right. 20:32 So, I try it you know to meet him with rest, 20:34 and let's pray about this, why don't we try 20:35 to do a walking program. You know one of the 20:37 things that causes high blood pressure 20:39 is a condition condition call sleep apnea. 20:42 Right and what is sleep apnea? That is a condition 20:46 where people don't get enough air at nights, 20:48 like they are going under water. 20:49 And they don't have enough air they come up usually 20:51 because an obstruction in the airway. 20:54 So, then begin tired all the time from 20:56 lack of sleep causes high blood pressure 20:59 then is what you are saying? Well I'm saying 21:01 the condition call sleep apnea because 21:03 your tissues made to renew at night, right. 21:06 Well when tissues don't renew at night 21:08 that puts stress on the body. 21:09 The stress hormones that we talked about 21:12 in other shows, right, the epinephrine the cortisol, 21:15 all those things raise blood pressure. 21:17 So, I think any stress on the body 21:20 can raise blood pressure. 21:21 If I punched right here your blood pressure go up. 21:23 If you stay awake for two, three days 21:25 that will put stress on it, right. 21:27 So, I try to cut back all those external stress even 21:30 a bad relationship could raise blood pressure. 21:31 Yeah I can see that happen. 21:33 So, these are things that I would work on 21:35 naturally first now is there natural herb 21:38 or anything like that I guess 21:39 that's what she is asking too, 21:41 but if you think about it Dan 21:42 that's the same as taking a medicine. 21:44 Yeah and then you run in the same conflict 21:47 that Allen had from England. 21:49 Let me ask you this would major lifestyle 21:52 changes having effect on high blood pressure. 21:56 Yeah in major lifestyle checks would 21:59 help greatly for the good. 22:00 Now one of things I tell people 22:02 do you take a day of rest, right. 22:04 Do you sleep well at night, 22:05 do you take vacations. 22:07 These could all be treated for, are you happy 22:09 with your job, correct. I see the people that 22:11 retire from an unhappy job situation, 22:13 and their blood pressure comes right down. 22:15 Right, but what are some of the things that 22:17 she can do, maybe from a lifestyle perspectives 22:21 such as reading, or you know prayer possibly, 22:26 introducing that into her life and allowing the 22:28 Holy Spirit to come into her life and 22:31 make changes in her life from biblical. 22:35 Well now you are getting at the core problem 22:37 because you are giving her the you know the power 22:39 through God, to physically make these changes 22:42 that she does knew to come back to the truth, 22:44 right that he designed us to be, right. 22:46 So, I think that as you know God and how he has 22:49 designed us and how is to work, if you can 22:51 get back to that model, you know it's gonna. 22:54 Then allows you to naturally take care of. 22:56 And it gives you greater chance of healing 22:58 naturally without depending on extra. 23:00 Now, do I use blood pressure medicines? 23:02 Yes I do, but is it my first choice? 23:05 No it's not, right. But, that's what integrative 23:08 medicine is using all these techniques. 23:09 Some people for instances relaxing music 23:12 can bring the blood pressure down, right, 23:13 therapeutic massage, correct. 23:15 You know all of these things can sort of relax 23:18 the body and other you know 23:20 for men it might be playing golf, yeah. 23:22 But, this is what integrative medicine 23:24 is all about. For some people it would. 23:27 Yeah, you don't want me to play golf. 23:29 No, it doesn't relax you. You know we miss 23:31 one part of our question also is she made 23:34 the comment that her prescription 23:36 medicine made her nauseated and weak. 23:40 Why would she be getting sick to her stomach 23:42 because of her prescription medicine, 23:45 is it too strong a prescription? 23:47 Well remember all these medicines weren't 23:49 made naturally for the body, right. 23:52 It might be this is just upsetting her system, 23:54 the system trying to throw it off and it says 23:56 no, this is a side effect and almost every 23:58 medication out there the side effect 24:00 one of the side effects is nausea, correct. 24:02 And every medicine I know almost can 24:04 cause you to be sick at your stomach. 24:05 That's why if you have to take a 24:07 medicine we try sometimes 24:08 to try to take it with the meal, right. 24:11 But, now I think you are understanding, 24:12 and I hope the audience is understanding 24:14 what this integrative medicines about. 24:16 It's taking the best of many different worlds 24:20 looking at the Bible, different principles. 24:22 Looking at the Bible and seeing if we can stay 24:23 within God's laws and God's precepts 24:25 and coming up with a treatment plan. 24:27 Correct all these natural laws. 24:31 Alright, the next question, 24:34 herbs been around for years and are 24:36 prefer to many medications. 24:39 What do you think about hawthorn 24:41 for a weak heart, okay. What is hawthorn anyway? 24:43 Hawthorn is a natural herb okay that's usually 24:47 a leaf and especially in Germany they use 24:50 this a lot for weak hearts and it actually makes 24:53 the heart squeeze stronger and pump better. 24:56 So, this is a very known herbal treatment 25:00 in certain countries and in United States. 25:03 It's actually safer than some of the medicines 25:05 we use to make the heart squeeze stronger. 25:07 One of the medicines we use to use is a lot 25:09 call Digoxin, right. Well hawthorn in some 25:13 studies is shown it work just as good as that 25:15 with less toxicities as it causes less problems. 25:19 So, I think this is another example that 25:20 in the herbal realm, but you do have to 25:23 to treat this like medicine. 25:24 This one has been studied, right. 25:26 And one of the things that I've been going 25:28 over is this integrative medicine. 25:31 Well this is an article that was written in 2005 25:35 that actually is gone over every study on 25:37 these herbal supplements, right and actually 25:39 shown which ones work, which ones don't work. 25:41 So, there are other supplements then that 25:45 would benefit her besides the hawthorn. 25:47 Well its according if its just for the weak 25:49 heart you know hawthorn would. 25:51 Remember we talked little bit about Coenzyme Q10, 25:53 right. Yeah, well such ginkgo maybe. 25:56 Well the ginkgo below but it might help a little 25:59 bit because you know different ones 26:01 are for different things, okay. 26:02 Like for instance you know ginkgo and some of 26:04 them might be use for as it more of a 26:06 stimulant thing of that, okay, okay. 26:07 But there are also some bad ones too out there. 26:09 So there is just either alright, right. 26:14 Alright let's go to number six, this is from 26:18 Debby in Indiana, okay. She says I take 26:21 Coumadin because I had a blood clot 26:23 in my lungs. What herbs should I avoid. 26:26 Okay Debby excellent question. 26:28 What is Coumadin and what do they use it for? 26:30 Okay Coumadin is a blood thinner, okay. 26:33 Some people even have called it rat poison Dan. 26:36 And it's used to help prevent clots 26:38 from forming in the body. 26:40 For instance a blood clot that goes through 26:41 lung is called pulmonary embolism, alright. 26:43 Remember the reporter that was in Iraq 26:45 that was in a tank all day. 26:47 Because his legs are like this, he got pulmonary 26:49 and that's why I'm gonna stretch 26:51 out my legs right now. 26:52 But, you know he got a blood clot it went to 26:54 his lungs he died immediately, right. 26:56 So, people have that it helps breaks up 26:58 the clots, clots anyone, so people with strokes 27:01 need to take certain types of Coumadin. 27:02 Well Coumadin is a blood thinner no one 27:04 likes to use it. I use it in a condition called 27:07 atrial fibrillation, okay but Coumadin is 27:09 one now there are many medications 27:11 that are not herbs especially that we 27:14 don't want to be using Coumadin. 27:15 There is too many to list. 27:16 You mean use with Coumadin? 27:18 No, we don't to use them, so any herb you might 27:20 be taking there is a big list of those 27:22 to look at, okay. To see which ones might be. 27:24 So the interaction between the two 27:26 are very dangerous. Right, so I think 27:28 that this field of integrative medicine 27:30 is very, very fascinating. And its continuing to 27:34 grow by leaps and bounds, it is, it is. 27:36 But, I think as we learn more about this 27:38 I think the key thing I like to tell our audience 27:40 today is get back to the Bible and make sure 27:44 as you ask the Lord about this treatments 27:46 see if you can read about it. 27:47 Find out as much as you can, see if it makes 27:49 sense physiologically. Make sure its not 27:51 harming anything, that probably is main point. 27:53 And first do you no harm, correct. Okay, 27:55 I think all this is very important. 27:56 And as people do this I think more and more 27:58 people, physicians are gonna use this 28:01 integrative approach. 28:02 We hope this program has been useful to you 28:04 and thank you for joining us today 28:06 for you're fearfully and wonderfully made. |
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