Participants: Neil Nedley, Rise Rafferty
Series Code: WM
Program Code: WM000373
00:35 Welcome to "Wonderfully Made"
00:37 Today, we have an exciting program for you 00:39 Dr. Neil Nedley is here with us today... 00:41 He is an internal medicine physician, 00:43 and I'm your host, Rise Rafferty 00:45 Dr. Neil, tell us a little bit about what 00:48 a typical day is for you as an internal medicine physician 00:53 Well, internal medicine has to do with adult diseases of 00:57 the internal organs, Rise 00:59 And so, I deal with heart, lung, gastrointestinal tract, 01:03 kidneys... anything that is an internal organ. 01:06 And, we're often called in when the internal organs are 01:10 kind of working against each other... 01:12 So, I spend a lot of time in critical care units 01:15 The cardiologists will come in, for instance, and say... 01:18 "Boy, those lungs need to be drier" 01:21 And so they will give Lasix, or a medicine like that 01:26 and the kidney doctor comes in, and says... 01:28 "Boy, that just affected my kidneys that I'm dealing with... 01:31 Those kidneys are going to fail; we need more fluids 01:33 in this patient" 01:34 And so often, there needs to be someone that can put all 01:37 those internal organs together and weigh the benefits 01:40 versus the risks. 01:41 So we spend time in critical care units and hospitals 01:44 to a large extent. 01:45 Probably half of my work is done in a hospital setting. 01:49 The other half of my work is done in an outpatient setting. 01:52 And, it's often referral-based from family practitioners... 01:55 people that can't get their blood pressure under control 01:57 despite being on multiple medications, 02:00 people whose cholesterol and triglycerides are still sky-high 02:04 and they're taking medicines, 02:06 and the medicines aren't working... 02:07 Their diabetes isn't under control, 02:09 and they're going to have to go on insulin... 02:11 and so, how can we prevent this? 02:14 And so, often, the internal medicine physician is sought out 02:19 for those types of difficult cases. 02:22 The other cases that we deal with are the 02:23 difficult to diagnose cases. Hmm 02:26 And that is... someone has severe fatigue, 02:29 they just can't get up and go, and no one has been 02:31 able to figure it out. 02:32 They've had thyroid testing. 02:33 They've had other types of tests, 02:35 and there is no cause that the family physician found out 02:41 in the routine workup of this. 02:43 And so, that's just one symptom, 02:45 it may be headaches that don't go away, etc. 02:48 And so, the more difficult to diagnose patients 02:50 we also deal with. 02:52 So there is a lot of variety in a day's time, 02:53 as you might imagine in dealing with these internal organs, 02:57 and that's what makes my day very exciting actually... 03:01 I enjoy every aspect of my day, and being an 03:03 internal medicine physician, 03:05 and a lot of that has to do with the variety of my day. 03:09 And I've had to recently, because I enjoy it so much, 03:14 and I enjoy a lot of other things too, limit myself 03:17 so to speak... We're not taking anymore new patients, 03:20 for instance, in the outpatient setting... 03:23 just because I enjoy it so much, I could probably 03:26 do it 20 hours a day... Wow! 03:29 But, such as it is, I do have kids to raise, and I 03:35 enjoy being with my boys, 03:36 and I enjoy other aspects of life as well. 03:39 And wives need time too. ABSOLUTELY! That's right. 03:42 Well we are so glad that you're taking this time to, 03:45 instead of maybe seeing us in your private practice, 03:47 you're going to help educate us right now on 03:50 something that, from hearing you talk, 03:51 I think you're very qualified to share with us... 03:54 and even though, maybe you're not a cardiologist specifically 03:57 focusing on the heart, you're internal medicine, 04:00 it seems like you take a step back, and you're able to look 04:02 at the bigger picture, and maybe how one argument 04:05 affects all the others, and visa versa 04:07 That's correct... we look at the root causes of disease as well 04:11 Cardiologists will try to take care of a blockage, 04:15 or something like that... diagnose a blockage 04:17 But the internist is going to take a step back and say... 04:21 "What caused this blockage to begin with... 04:22 and how can we prevent more of them?" 04:24 Very good, I love that kind of stuff... let's get into it! 04:27 All right! Well today, we are speaking about the heart 04:30 And, of course, you can't live without one. 04:33 You have to have that heart pumping blood through the body 04:37 in order to sustain and maintain life. 04:40 And the problem with the typical American diet is 04:43 those arteries start to close off over time. 04:47 And, they close off due to cholesterol, high saturated fat 04:51 ...not enough fiber in the diet, the wrong types of protein 04:55 And maybe other factors like stress, or genetics, 04:58 or lack of exercise, or diabetes... all these things 05:02 can have an independent role in causing these arteries 05:05 to start to close off. 05:07 But over time, the average person, 40 years of age, 05:10 already has significant blockages. 05:13 And by the time they are 55, they might start 05:15 getting crushing chest pain when they exert themselves 05:19 and that might be the first sign... 05:20 Hopefully it IS the first sign, because 1 out of 3 people 05:23 their first sign of having heart disease... sudden death 05:28 Wow... And you know, when I was 20 years old, 05:30 I used to think that 40 was, you know, getting up there... 05:33 was old, but now that I'm pushing 40, 05:35 I realize that's still very, very young... 05:37 too young to have those kind of problems... 05:38 Yeah, absolutely too young, and by the way, 05:41 well I'm talking about average American having some 05:43 blockages at 40, we have had heart attack victims 05:47 in their late teens. 05:48 It's not uncommon anymore, particularly with the way 05:51 teens are eating... 05:52 For them to already have type 2 diabetes, 05:55 and have significant coronary disease 05:58 And so, we have taken care of 17, 18 and 06:01 19-year-olds with heart attacks. 06:03 Is that a global situation that's taking place? 06:06 Or, do you feel like that's primarily Western? 06:09 No, it's not global, fortunately. 06:11 I mean the third world countries still don't have that early on 06:15 The third world countries tend to exercise more. 06:18 They don't have the nice forms of transportation that we have 06:21 And they tend to eat a little better. 06:23 They eat more fruits and vegetables 06:25 because they're cheaper than eating meat and 06:28 the high fat dairy products. 06:30 But, here in America, primarily due to the expanding 06:34 waistline of teenagers, and the things causing those 06:37 expanding waistlines are getting into the blockages in the heart 06:40 Sometimes I even wonder if our advanced technology hinders 06:44 people from really taking care of themselves adequately 06:48 For example, I met a few people who, their cholesterol may be 06:52 very high, but not to worry... "I can always get a 06:56 quadruple heart bypass surgery. " 06:58 Yes... Oh, and that gives a false sense of security. 07:02 A lot of people think, "Well, you have blockages... 07:04 let's take care of the blockages, and lets do 07:06 the bypass. " 07:07 And, yes, I even recommend bypass for some individuals 07:12 that need the bypass surgery 07:14 But, they haven't thought about the downside 07:18 of the bypasses far enough in advance in most cases. 07:21 So what are these downsides? 07:24 Well, an obvious downside is the cost of it... over $50,000 07:29 And in some hospitals, over $100,000 is what 07:31 you're going to be paying for bypass surgery... 07:34 You say, "Well, I have good insurance, so that will 07:36 cover most of it, so that's not that down for me" 07:39 Well, there is a downside that we really can't take 07:42 care of for cost, and it has to do with the way 07:44 bypass surgery is done. 07:46 We have a heart model with us today, 07:48 and if you were to notice here, this is a heart that actually 07:53 went through the bypass surgery. 07:56 We have, in the middle, a bypass graft that's taken 08:00 right from this red blood vessel, which is the aorta 08:04 and it goes down into the left anterior descending artery 08:08 Then we have another bypass that is going into the 08:13 circumflex artery, and you can see that here more on the 08:17 back portion of the heart. 08:19 And then we have a bypass that is going into the right 08:24 coronary artery. 08:26 And so, these bypasses, if you take a closer look here at the 08:31 aorta... In order to make these bypasses go past the blockages, 08:35 there actually has to be little holes bored in this aorta 08:40 in this major blood vessel that comes out of the left ventricle 08:43 And then in order to put the patient on the 08:46 heart/lung machine, there will be a hole that is made in 08:50 the aorta itself, another bored hole, to put the patient 08:54 on the heart/lung machine so that the heart can be 08:56 stopped and so the surgeon can do his delicate work 08:59 in putting in these bypass grafts. 09:02 What people haven't figured out is that aorta inside has 09:06 a lot of plaques in it... 09:08 cholesterol atherosclerotic plaques... 09:10 And so, when these holes are bored in, 09:13 there's a nice, little grinder that does it, 09:16 but it is bringing these cholesterol plaques upstream 09:20 and where that tends to affect is, of course, the brain. 09:25 And so, well over 90% of patients, Rise, have a 09:28 decline in the function of their brain as a result 09:32 of undergoing bypass surgery. 09:33 So something is dislodged... these plaques are dislodged 09:36 and start flowing with the blood... flowing with the blood 09:40 They're kind of broken up into fine, little pieces, 09:42 but they go upstream and they cause a swelling of the brain 09:45 And they can actually close off some of the small 09:51 arterial capillaries there in the brain itself causing little 09:57 tiny, mini strokes. 09:58 So these may not necessarily cause a limb to become useless 10:02 or you still may be able to talk and 10:05 function normally apparently. 10:07 Yeah, actually, you know, the family believes that dad 10:10 is as good as new because he's talking 10:13 He hasn't had the stroke. 10:14 Now, you can have a stroke from doing this as well... 10:16 I should mention... About 1% of patients 10:19 will have a major stroke as a result of 10:21 undergoing this procedure. 10:23 But the other, well over 90% won't have the major stroke 10:28 ...but they will have a decline in their cognitive function. 10:31 And so, that means that their IQ isn't quite as it used to be 10:36 ...Their memory may not be as well in recalling events, 10:41 particularly more recent events that have occurred since 10:44 the bypass surgery. 10:45 And then they can actually get into some 10:48 lapses in judgment as well. 10:49 A very good decision-maker after a bypass surgery 10:52 may not be near as good a decision-maker because it 10:55 can affect the frontal lobe of the brain. 10:57 And when you consider over 90% have neurological deficits 11:01 as a result of undergoing this procedure, 11:03 you really need to prepare to NOT have this procedure 11:07 which is what this program is about... Absolutely! 11:10 Or if you have had the procedure already, to try to prepare 11:14 for not having it again because so many people 11:16 have to go in for repeat bypass surgeries because they 11:19 haven't taken care of the original problem that 11:21 caused these blockages to begin with. 11:22 Well let's get to that root cause... 11:24 Well that root cause is atherosclerosis. 11:28 And that comes from cholesterol, and cholesterol is a major part 11:34 of what produces those blockages 11:36 And so cholesterol is not found in 11:38 fruits, grains, nuts or vegetables... no cholesterol 11:43 So eating the plant foods, particularly eating 11:45 plant foods whole that have all the fiber in it 11:47 is going to significantly help prevent these blockages, Rise 11:52 Meat, milk, eggs and cheese, they all have cholesterol.. 11:55 they are high in saturated fat... 11:57 that's what's going to produce the blockages over time. 12:00 And a lot of people think... Well, the solution to it is 12:03 to go from regular cheese, to low fat cheese; 12:08 to go from chicken to taking the time to scrape the fat 12:13 and the skin off the chicken... 12:15 And to maybe even get so austere as drinking skim milk 12:20 and then... "I'm going to make those changes, and 12:23 my arteries will be fine. " Well, not true... 12:26 And that diet is better, not to say that it's just as bad 12:31 it's slightly better. 12:32 And statistics show that you do slightly better 12:35 than on the typical American diet, 12:37 but you're not making the dramatic improvement 12:39 that you could make in actually opening up these arteries 12:42 through lifestyle. 12:44 Actually, the first graphic we have with us is actually 12:49 produced by Dr. Ornish... it's a cartoon 12:52 of doctors and nurses, and you can see what they're doing there 12:57 and mopping up the floor... 12:59 But, not matter how much work they do in mopping up that floor 13:02 the problem isn't going to be solved until the faucet 13:06 is turned off. That's right. 13:07 And that faucet is controlled by the patient... 13:11 In other words, what they're putting into their bodies 13:13 what they're doing with their bodies 13:15 And doctors and nurses in hospitals are going around 13:18 doing bypass surgeries, doing stents, doing angioplasties, 13:23 trying to open up these blockages 13:25 But, very little is done in regards to the cause 13:28 of the blockages which is the atherosclerosis... 13:30 And someone needs to turn that faucet off to help 13:34 the doctors and nurses out on this endless task of getting 13:37 rid and trying to bypass blockages or angioplasty them 13:41 And unfortunately, I know my father is a physician, 13:45 and he was always so frustrated in trying to help his patients 13:49 because he realized he was so limited in being able to help 13:53 them really make the changes that they needed to make 13:56 And so really, ultimately, it's our choice, isn't it? 13:59 Our choice is really powerful in relation to our health. 14:03 That's right... even Abraham Lincoln said... 14:04 "You can't help men permanently unless they 14:09 do something for themselves. " Right! 14:11 And so, these fixes really are temporary... 14:15 You know, the bypass surgery is a temporary fix, 14:18 angioplasty and stents... a temporary fix. 14:21 Unless we take care of the underlying problem, 14:23 it's coming back... That's right People need to be motivated 14:26 And I think that that's what we're doing here... 14:27 You are educating us to MOTIVATE us to maybe make 14:30 some of these choices. 14:31 Yeah, absolutely! I mean, once patients find out 14:34 the great benefit of changing their lifestyle, 14:36 they're much more apt to do it. 14:37 ...And a lot of people don't know about it. 14:39 They simply think that, you know, this is the best 14:42 they can do, and they just hope that their blockages 14:44 don't come to the other places. Um hm 14:46 But if they knew of the benefit... 14:49 In fact, I think for many doctors, 14:51 they carry a paternalistic attitude... because they know 14:56 about some of these things, but they don't necessarily 14:58 tell their patients because they think... 14:59 "Well, it might be too hard for the patients to do this. " Right 15:02 I let my patients decide. 15:04 I tell them what is the ideal program. 15:08 I'll also tell them what the American Heart Association 15:11 Program is... where we just scrape the chicken fat off 15:15 and use lower fat cheeses, etc. 15:18 And then, they can choose a program in between... 15:21 But then the expected results, if we do each of those 3 things, 15:25 and then, of course, it's their decision to make, 15:27 whatever decision they make, I'm glad to support them in 15:30 that decision, and glad to work with them on that. 15:34 But many patients have no clue how much better 15:37 they will get by significantly changing their diet. 15:41 Well the next graphic we have, Rise, actually is 15:44 of the American Heart Association diet and what it 15:47 does after bypass surgery. 15:49 These are patients who had bypass surgery... 15:51 And 3 years after their bypass surgery, 41% of them had 15:56 progression of their coronary artery disease. 15:59 Now notice, this is a significantly lower fat diet 16:02 The top of the screen there says 25% fat 16:05 200 to 250 mg of cholesterol 16:08 The average American is eating 16:09 about 400 mg of cholesterol a day 16:11 And maybe closer to 40% fat. Yeah, 35 to 40% fat. 16:15 And so, this seems like a significant improvement to them 16:19 At 5 years, 65% had progression, 7 years 77% had progression 16:25 And after 10 years, 85% of patients on this diet had 16:29 progression of their coronary artery disease. 16:32 This is why repeat bypass surgery needs to be 16:35 done 10 years later in many individuals. 16:38 And then they're confused... 16:40 They said, "Hey, you know, I lowered my fat intake, 16:42 I lowered my cholesterol intake ... why is this happening?" 16:47 And finally, a physician by the name of Dr. Ornish, 16:50 got involved and he said, "I think if we do more in 16:54 changing the diet, we might actually be able 16:57 to change this course. " 16:58 So there's like this sliding scale... where here is 17:01 maybe the typical American diet... with all the fatty, 17:06 high cholesterol foods, meats 17:08 And maybe here is a diet that you're advocating, 17:10 and people can make these changes, but they're going to 17:14 see results in relation to the changes they make. Absolutely 17:18 So, if they slide over here, they're still going to see 17:20 improvement the closer they get this way, 17:22 but not the improvement necessarily that they could have 17:24 Not the improvement that they could have. 17:26 Well, Dr. Ornish put them on a low fat, vegetarian diet... 17:30 Got rid of the cholesterol in the diet. 17:33 And the effects were significant 17:36 If you look at the next graphic that we have, 17:40 you can see that the bad cholesterol... the ones in red 17:44 Of course, Dr. Ornish, did a control group like any 17:46 good scientific study has... 17:48 The low fat vegetarian people were in red, 17:52 so at 151 is when they started their diet, 17:55 and they went down to 95 in a rather short period of time. 17:59 The blue is the control group that was put on the 18:02 American Heart Association diet. 18:05 So you can see, the LDL cholesterol, the bad cholesterol 18:08 went from 151 to 95 just by diet and lifestyle alone. 18:12 And the other group went down 9 points. That's phenomenal 18:16 And, of course, when you get those results, 18:18 you're going to see significant results. 18:20 Dr. Ornish showed that about 90% of his patients 18:26 actually had an improvement in the blockages in the 18:29 arteries in their heart just by lifestyle. 18:32 So they didn't have to have bypass surgery. 18:34 They didn't have to have the angioplasty because 18:37 instead of getting that, they were randomized to a 18:40 lifestyle program, and their arteries started opening up 18:43 just with the lifestyle program. That's fantastic! 18:46 Then, in addition to that, what was amazing... 18:49 is their symptoms improved. 18:50 The reason why they had the heart caths to begin with 18:53 was due to the fact they were having chest pain. 18:55 And, if you look at the next graphic there, 18:59 I think you will see the significant improvement that 19:02 occurred in chest pain. 19:04 Again, the group in pink or red is the vegetarian group 19:09 At the beginning of the study, they were having 19:11 5 episodes of chest pain per week... 19:13 At the end of the study, less than 1 19:16 In fact, less than a half... 0.45 19:18 The American Heart Association group had 2 episodes of 19:22 chest pain per week to begin with, 19:23 but at the end of the study, 6 episodes of chest pain. 19:27 And the dramatic difference that occurred there 19:30 actually occurred within 3 weeks in the vegetarian group. 19:34 And this is what confused the researchers in this study 19:37 because they thought, "Well, it's going to take a year 19:39 to reverse the changes in the arteries, 19:43 and why are we seeing their chest pain go down to nothing?" 19:46 In fact, we find this in our Lifestyle Center... 19:48 We'll have people that cannot walk across the room 19:50 without having chest pain. 19:52 And in 3 weeks at the Lifestyle Center, 19:54 they'll be walking 5 miles, and they'll be OFF of their 19:57 nitroglycerin, and they're not having chest pain! 20:00 The same person with the same arteries now getting better 20:06 blood supply in a short period of time. 20:09 The difference is the fact that the vegetarian diet is 20:12 so much higher in arginine. 20:14 Arginine which is an amino acid. 20:17 Yes, it's a protein building block, an amino acid, 20:20 and arginine gets turned into substance in the body 20:23 called nitric oxide 20:26 Nitric oxide you might recognize the name... right? 20:28 Nitric oxide is what nitroglycerine also gets 20:33 turned into... So, patients when they take 20:35 nitroglycerin are trying to improve their nitric oxide 20:37 levels to cause a relaxation of the arteries. 20:41 The arteries are not just like lead pipes that come 20:43 to our faucets... 20:45 They actually are flexible because they are 20:47 muscular organs 20:48 And if we get arginine in them, high amounts of arginine will 20:52 increase that nitric oxide, and relax the arteries, 20:55 and that will improve the blood supply to the heart. 20:57 And so, a vegetarian diet being much higher in arginine is going 21:02 to produce much better blood flow even before the blockages 21:05 start going away on angiogram. 21:08 And, our next graphic actually shows the foods that are 21:11 high in arginine, and you can see red kidney beans 21:15 at the top... 2.6 grams, an excellent source of arginine 21:19 Garbanzos even higher yet... sometimes called chickpeas 21:23 Lentils an excellent source of arginine 21:25 And notice soybeans are way up there. 21:28 But even higher yet are pumpkin seeds... That's amazing 21:32 a very high source of arginine and will produce relaxation 21:37 in the arteries and really get better blood supply. 21:40 And how does that compare maybe with the protein that 21:43 comes from animal sources then... 21:44 That's what they were comparing was the 2 sources of 21:47 Yeah, the protein from animal sources are higher in lysine 21:50 lower in arginine, and there is a little bit of arginine 21:54 in animal protein but not near enough to get 21:57 the nitric oxide levels there. 21:58 You always hear about protein with body builders 22:00 and we always hear that, you know, the protein that 22:03 comes from meat is going to be the perfect protein. 22:05 But here we see there are differences between the 22:07 proteins, but it's actually to your advantage 22:10 to get protein from a vegetable source. 22:12 Yeah absolutely. The amino acid ratios are much better as far 22:16 as conducive to circulation and health... 22:20 And actually, to some extent, even endurance in the muscles 22:23 themselves. 22:25 Well, the amazing thing also, about the program 22:28 the "Lifestyle Heart Trial" is what Dr. Ornish did... 22:31 is the fact that it was not just diet alone 22:36 There were some other factors in the "Lifestyle Heart Trial" 22:38 that seemed to produce the benefit. 22:40 That's right... Doesn't Dr. Ornish talk a lot about 22:42 love, and the power of intimacy in affecting our heart. 22:47 And that was kind of interesting how he got involved in that... 22:50 but he was involved in animal research as well 22:53 And they were feeding different types of diets to rabbits, 22:57 and what they noticed is that the diets were important 23:02 in the rabbits... 23:03 Cholesterol hurts rabbits' arteries just 23:06 as much it does ours. 23:07 But they notice there was a difference as well besides 23:11 just diet, and the rabbits that were on the bottom cages 23:15 actually had much better circulation and didn't get 23:18 the blockages as fast as the rabbits on the top cages. 23:21 All right... what was the difference? 23:23 Well the top cages were too high for the ones who were 23:27 paid to feed the rabbits... 23:29 And they liked the rabbits, the ones who were feeding them 23:32 so when they would feed them, they would take the rabbit out 23:34 and pet the rabbit a little bit, 23:36 and kind of cozy up to the rabbit, or hold it, 23:39 and that type of thing... 23:40 where they couldn't reach the rabbits on the top cages, 23:42 they could just put the food in and that was it. No contact 23:45 And so that little bit of intimacy, so to speak, 23:50 and contact with a human being actually helped the 23:53 rabbits' circulation. 23:55 And now we know that to be true in human beings. 23:57 That's why men who have a successful marriage, 24:01 and even women as well, actually have less 24:05 coronary artery disease and better circulation. 24:07 I think people can even be involved sometimes 24:10 in marriage and lack the intimacy... Oh absolutely... 24:12 And lack that semblance of love and reap the benefits 24:16 I guess, from having a depth... 24:19 Yes, absolutely, and so it's not just being married, 24:22 but having a successful marriage where you 24:27 really have a relationship. Um hm 24:30 So that's an important factor... 24:32 Social support in other ways outside of marriage 24:35 can also be important. 24:37 Any physical exercise... you know, 24:39 the "Lifestyle Heart Trial" involved significant 24:42 physical exercise 3 hours per week as a minimum 24:46 of exercise and we know that's important for the heart 24:51 And also stress control... 24:53 an important component of heart health. 24:56 Yeah, and I think that all those things tie in with 25:00 living a balanced life. 25:01 A lot of people don't exercise, 25:02 or experience a large amount of stress because 25:06 they're workaholics, or they just feel the pace, 25:08 and they're running with it 25:09 And what's required, I think, sometimes is just that we 25:13 step back and say, "I'm going to take charge of my life again 25:16 and not let all these external things at work dictate 25:20 how I'm going to spend my time everyday. " 25:22 Absolutely! We're suffering from that. 25:24 Yes, we need to be in control of our own schedules 25:27 as much as possible... instead of our schedules 25:29 in control of us, and that's an important component 25:32 of overall health. 25:33 So we may think that we're gaining time now 25:36 by working all the time, but really, we're losing 25:38 time because it can shorten our life as you've been 25:40 explaining to us. Yes! Absolutely! 25:43 And so that really gets into the intricacies of 25:45 stress control as well. 25:47 And, you know, interestingly it's not just the amount 25:50 of stress, but how we cope with that stress 25:53 that's also important. 25:54 Another interesting study on stress showed that 25:57 if we are able to counteract the stress, 26:01 in other words, respond to it... 26:02 You know, everyone has deadlines in their life... for instance 26:05 And interestingly, people with more deadlines actually 26:08 have better health, if they are responding to those deadlines 26:14 and it's not JUST the fact that you have a lot of deadlines 26:18 that's going to produce ill effect, but whether you're 26:21 responding to it. 26:22 It's the STRESS that we CANNOT respond to, or we don't know how 26:26 to respond to it... that is the most adverse on the body. 26:31 And that's what's going to produce the significantly 26:33 higher adrenalin levels which are going to significantly 26:38 actually worsen blood pressure, 26:40 cause the blood pressure to go up, as well as cause 26:42 the cholesterol to be deposited in the arteries. 26:46 So when it comes to heart health, 26:47 there's a whole picture of stress, diet, love, intimacy 26:55 that if we incorporate, our heart will immediately 27:00 respond to as we saw in that trial. 27:02 It immediately responds to all the sudden shifting away 27:05 from maybe our unhealthful lifestyle practices, 27:09 and just 3 weeks of that kind of change in our life, 27:13 we would see a dramatic difference. 27:14 Yes, just 3 weeks. 27:16 And, you know, you can plan that change. 27:18 There is material written about this to show you how to 27:22 do it step by step, or you could go to a lifestyle center 27:25 There are lifestyle centers around the country now 27:28 that actually specialize in taking 3 weeks out of your life 27:31 You have a vacation there, 27:32 and you find out exactly how to do this and incorporate it 27:35 into your life. 27:36 Unfortunately, it seems like we can get all the education we 27:40 can get and yet ultimately, it's up to us to turn 27:44 that faucet off. 27:45 Ultimately it is up to us, and that's where it gets into 27:49 how to change permanently, and change positively. 27:54 A lot of people don't know how to do that, but we do 27:56 teach people how do that on subsequent 27:59 "Wonderfully Made" programs. 28:00 Well, we will look forward to that, Dr. Nedley 28:02 Thank you so much for being with us today. 28:04 It's been my pleasure, Rise 28:06 I think we can take home the message to turn off that 28:08 faucet and do it with a smile! 28:11 Until next time... |
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