Wonderfully Made

Heart Disease Pt. 2

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Participants: Neil Nedley, Rise Rafferty

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00:35 Welcome to "Wonderfully Made"
00:37 Today, we have an exciting program for you
00:39 Dr. Neil Nedley is here with us today...
00:41 He is an internal medicine physician,
00:43 and I'm your host, Rise Rafferty
00:45 Dr. Neil, tell us a little bit about what
00:48 a typical day is for you as an internal medicine physician
00:53 Well, internal medicine has to do with adult diseases of
00:57 the internal organs, Rise
00:59 And so, I deal with heart, lung, gastrointestinal tract,
01:03 kidneys... anything that is an internal organ.
01:06 And, we're often called in when the internal organs are
01:10 kind of working against each other...
01:12 So, I spend a lot of time in critical care units
01:15 The cardiologists will come in, for instance, and say...
01:18 "Boy, those lungs need to be drier"
01:21 And so they will give Lasix, or a medicine like that
01:26 and the kidney doctor comes in, and says...
01:28 "Boy, that just affected my kidneys that I'm dealing with...
01:31 Those kidneys are going to fail; we need more fluids
01:33 in this patient"
01:34 And so often, there needs to be someone that can put all
01:37 those internal organs together and weigh the benefits
01:40 versus the risks.
01:41 So we spend time in critical care units and hospitals
01:44 to a large extent.
01:45 Probably half of my work is done in a hospital setting.
01:49 The other half of my work is done in an outpatient setting.
01:52 And, it's often referral-based from family practitioners...
01:55 people that can't get their blood pressure under control
01:57 despite being on multiple medications,
02:00 people whose cholesterol and triglycerides are still sky-high
02:04 and they're taking medicines,
02:06 and the medicines aren't working...
02:07 Their diabetes isn't under control,
02:09 and they're going to have to go on insulin...
02:11 and so, how can we prevent this?
02:14 And so, often, the internal medicine physician is sought out
02:19 for those types of difficult cases.
02:22 The other cases that we deal with are the
02:23 difficult to diagnose cases. Hmm
02:26 And that is... someone has severe fatigue,
02:29 they just can't get up and go, and no one has been
02:31 able to figure it out.
02:32 They've had thyroid testing.
02:33 They've had other types of tests,
02:35 and there is no cause that the family physician found out
02:41 in the routine workup of this.
02:43 And so, that's just one symptom,
02:45 it may be headaches that don't go away, etc.
02:48 And so, the more difficult to diagnose patients
02:50 we also deal with.
02:52 So there is a lot of variety in a day's time,
02:53 as you might imagine in dealing with these internal organs,
02:57 and that's what makes my day very exciting actually...
03:01 I enjoy every aspect of my day, and being an
03:03 internal medicine physician,
03:05 and a lot of that has to do with the variety of my day.
03:09 And I've had to recently, because I enjoy it so much,
03:14 and I enjoy a lot of other things too, limit myself
03:17 so to speak... We're not taking anymore new patients,
03:20 for instance, in the outpatient setting...
03:23 just because I enjoy it so much, I could probably
03:26 do it 20 hours a day... Wow!
03:29 But, such as it is, I do have kids to raise, and I
03:35 enjoy being with my boys,
03:36 and I enjoy other aspects of life as well.
03:39 And wives need time too. ABSOLUTELY! That's right.
03:42 Well we are so glad that you're taking this time to,
03:45 instead of maybe seeing us in your private practice,
03:47 you're going to help educate us right now on
03:50 something that, from hearing you talk,
03:51 I think you're very qualified to share with us...
03:54 and even though, maybe you're not a cardiologist specifically
03:57 focusing on the heart, you're internal medicine,
04:00 it seems like you take a step back, and you're able to look
04:02 at the bigger picture, and maybe how one argument
04:05 affects all the others, and visa versa
04:07 That's correct... we look at the root causes of disease as well
04:11 Cardiologists will try to take care of a blockage,
04:15 or something like that... diagnose a blockage
04:17 But the internist is going to take a step back and say...
04:21 "What caused this blockage to begin with...
04:22 and how can we prevent more of them?"
04:24 Very good, I love that kind of stuff... let's get into it!
04:27 All right! Well today, we are speaking about the heart
04:30 And, of course, you can't live without one.
04:33 You have to have that heart pumping blood through the body
04:37 in order to sustain and maintain life.
04:40 And the problem with the typical American diet is
04:43 those arteries start to close off over time.
04:47 And, they close off due to cholesterol, high saturated fat
04:51 ...not enough fiber in the diet, the wrong types of protein
04:55 And maybe other factors like stress, or genetics,
04:58 or lack of exercise, or diabetes... all these things
05:02 can have an independent role in causing these arteries
05:05 to start to close off.
05:07 But over time, the average person, 40 years of age,
05:10 already has significant blockages.
05:13 And by the time they are 55, they might start
05:15 getting crushing chest pain when they exert themselves
05:19 and that might be the first sign...
05:20 Hopefully it IS the first sign, because 1 out of 3 people
05:23 their first sign of having heart disease... sudden death
05:28 Wow... And you know, when I was 20 years old,
05:30 I used to think that 40 was, you know, getting up there...
05:33 was old, but now that I'm pushing 40,
05:35 I realize that's still very, very young...
05:37 too young to have those kind of problems...
05:38 Yeah, absolutely too young, and by the way,
05:41 well I'm talking about average American having some
05:43 blockages at 40, we have had heart attack victims
05:47 in their late teens.
05:48 It's not uncommon anymore, particularly with the way
05:51 teens are eating...
05:52 For them to already have type 2 diabetes,
05:55 and have significant coronary disease
05:58 And so, we have taken care of 17, 18 and
06:01 19-year-olds with heart attacks.
06:03 Is that a global situation that's taking place?
06:06 Or, do you feel like that's primarily Western?
06:09 No, it's not global, fortunately.
06:11 I mean the third world countries still don't have that early on
06:15 The third world countries tend to exercise more.
06:18 They don't have the nice forms of transportation that we have
06:21 And they tend to eat a little better.
06:23 They eat more fruits and vegetables
06:25 because they're cheaper than eating meat and
06:28 the high fat dairy products.
06:30 But, here in America, primarily due to the expanding
06:34 waistline of teenagers, and the things causing those
06:37 expanding waistlines are getting into the blockages in the heart
06:40 Sometimes I even wonder if our advanced technology hinders
06:44 people from really taking care of themselves adequately
06:48 For example, I met a few people who, their cholesterol may be
06:52 very high, but not to worry... "I can always get a
06:56 quadruple heart bypass surgery. "
06:58 Yes... Oh, and that gives a false sense of security.
07:02 A lot of people think, "Well, you have blockages...
07:04 let's take care of the blockages, and lets do
07:06 the bypass. "
07:07 And, yes, I even recommend bypass for some individuals
07:12 that need the bypass surgery
07:14 But, they haven't thought about the downside
07:18 of the bypasses far enough in advance in most cases.
07:21 So what are these downsides?
07:24 Well, an obvious downside is the cost of it... over $50,000
07:29 And in some hospitals, over $100,000 is what
07:31 you're going to be paying for bypass surgery...
07:34 You say, "Well, I have good insurance, so that will
07:36 cover most of it, so that's not that down for me"
07:39 Well, there is a downside that we really can't take
07:42 care of for cost, and it has to do with the way
07:44 bypass surgery is done.
07:46 We have a heart model with us today,
07:48 and if you were to notice here, this is a heart that actually
07:53 went through the bypass surgery.
07:56 We have, in the middle, a bypass graft that's taken
08:00 right from this red blood vessel, which is the aorta
08:04 and it goes down into the left anterior descending artery
08:08 Then we have another bypass that is going into the
08:13 circumflex artery, and you can see that here more on the
08:17 back portion of the heart.
08:19 And then we have a bypass that is going into the right
08:24 coronary artery.
08:26 And so, these bypasses, if you take a closer look here at the
08:31 aorta... In order to make these bypasses go past the blockages,
08:35 there actually has to be little holes bored in this aorta
08:40 in this major blood vessel that comes out of the left ventricle
08:43 And then in order to put the patient on the
08:46 heart/lung machine, there will be a hole that is made in
08:50 the aorta itself, another bored hole, to put the patient
08:54 on the heart/lung machine so that the heart can be
08:56 stopped and so the surgeon can do his delicate work
08:59 in putting in these bypass grafts.
09:02 What people haven't figured out is that aorta inside has
09:06 a lot of plaques in it...
09:08 cholesterol atherosclerotic plaques...
09:10 And so, when these holes are bored in,
09:13 there's a nice, little grinder that does it,
09:16 but it is bringing these cholesterol plaques upstream
09:20 and where that tends to affect is, of course, the brain.
09:25 And so, well over 90% of patients, Rise, have a
09:28 decline in the function of their brain as a result
09:32 of undergoing bypass surgery.
09:33 So something is dislodged... these plaques are dislodged
09:36 and start flowing with the blood... flowing with the blood
09:40 They're kind of broken up into fine, little pieces,
09:42 but they go upstream and they cause a swelling of the brain
09:45 And they can actually close off some of the small
09:51 arterial capillaries there in the brain itself causing little
09:57 tiny, mini strokes.
09:58 So these may not necessarily cause a limb to become useless
10:02 or you still may be able to talk and
10:05 function normally apparently.
10:07 Yeah, actually, you know, the family believes that dad
10:10 is as good as new because he's talking
10:13 He hasn't had the stroke.
10:14 Now, you can have a stroke from doing this as well...
10:16 I should mention... About 1% of patients
10:19 will have a major stroke as a result of
10:21 undergoing this procedure.
10:23 But the other, well over 90% won't have the major stroke
10:28 ...but they will have a decline in their cognitive function.
10:31 And so, that means that their IQ isn't quite as it used to be
10:36 ...Their memory may not be as well in recalling events,
10:41 particularly more recent events that have occurred since
10:44 the bypass surgery.
10:45 And then they can actually get into some
10:48 lapses in judgment as well.
10:49 A very good decision-maker after a bypass surgery
10:52 may not be near as good a decision-maker because it
10:55 can affect the frontal lobe of the brain.
10:57 And when you consider over 90% have neurological deficits
11:01 as a result of undergoing this procedure,
11:03 you really need to prepare to NOT have this procedure
11:07 which is what this program is about... Absolutely!
11:10 Or if you have had the procedure already, to try to prepare
11:14 for not having it again because so many people
11:16 have to go in for repeat bypass surgeries because they
11:19 haven't taken care of the original problem that
11:21 caused these blockages to begin with.
11:22 Well let's get to that root cause...
11:24 Well that root cause is atherosclerosis.
11:28 And that comes from cholesterol, and cholesterol is a major part
11:34 of what produces those blockages
11:36 And so cholesterol is not found in
11:38 fruits, grains, nuts or vegetables... no cholesterol
11:43 So eating the plant foods, particularly eating
11:45 plant foods whole that have all the fiber in it
11:47 is going to significantly help prevent these blockages, Rise
11:52 Meat, milk, eggs and cheese, they all have cholesterol..
11:55 they are high in saturated fat...
11:57 that's what's going to produce the blockages over time.
12:00 And a lot of people think... Well, the solution to it is
12:03 to go from regular cheese, to low fat cheese;
12:08 to go from chicken to taking the time to scrape the fat
12:13 and the skin off the chicken...
12:15 And to maybe even get so austere as drinking skim milk
12:20 and then... "I'm going to make those changes, and
12:23 my arteries will be fine. " Well, not true...
12:26 And that diet is better, not to say that it's just as bad
12:31 it's slightly better.
12:32 And statistics show that you do slightly better
12:35 than on the typical American diet,
12:37 but you're not making the dramatic improvement
12:39 that you could make in actually opening up these arteries
12:42 through lifestyle.
12:44 Actually, the first graphic we have with us is actually
12:49 produced by Dr. Ornish... it's a cartoon
12:52 of doctors and nurses, and you can see what they're doing there
12:57 and mopping up the floor...
12:59 But, not matter how much work they do in mopping up that floor
13:02 the problem isn't going to be solved until the faucet
13:06 is turned off. That's right.
13:07 And that faucet is controlled by the patient...
13:11 In other words, what they're putting into their bodies
13:13 what they're doing with their bodies
13:15 And doctors and nurses in hospitals are going around
13:18 doing bypass surgeries, doing stents, doing angioplasties,
13:23 trying to open up these blockages
13:25 But, very little is done in regards to the cause
13:28 of the blockages which is the atherosclerosis...
13:30 And someone needs to turn that faucet off to help
13:34 the doctors and nurses out on this endless task of getting
13:37 rid and trying to bypass blockages or angioplasty them
13:41 And unfortunately, I know my father is a physician,
13:45 and he was always so frustrated in trying to help his patients
13:49 because he realized he was so limited in being able to help
13:53 them really make the changes that they needed to make
13:56 And so really, ultimately, it's our choice, isn't it?
13:59 Our choice is really powerful in relation to our health.
14:03 That's right... even Abraham Lincoln said...
14:04 "You can't help men permanently unless they
14:09 do something for themselves. " Right!
14:11 And so, these fixes really are temporary...
14:15 You know, the bypass surgery is a temporary fix,
14:18 angioplasty and stents... a temporary fix.
14:21 Unless we take care of the underlying problem,
14:23 it's coming back... That's right People need to be motivated
14:26 And I think that that's what we're doing here...
14:27 You are educating us to MOTIVATE us to maybe make
14:30 some of these choices.
14:31 Yeah, absolutely! I mean, once patients find out
14:34 the great benefit of changing their lifestyle,
14:36 they're much more apt to do it.
14:37 ...And a lot of people don't know about it.
14:39 They simply think that, you know, this is the best
14:42 they can do, and they just hope that their blockages
14:44 don't come to the other places. Um hm
14:46 But if they knew of the benefit...
14:49 In fact, I think for many doctors,
14:51 they carry a paternalistic attitude... because they know
14:56 about some of these things, but they don't necessarily
14:58 tell their patients because they think...
14:59 "Well, it might be too hard for the patients to do this. " Right
15:02 I let my patients decide.
15:04 I tell them what is the ideal program.
15:08 I'll also tell them what the American Heart Association
15:11 Program is... where we just scrape the chicken fat off
15:15 and use lower fat cheeses, etc.
15:18 And then, they can choose a program in between...
15:21 But then the expected results, if we do each of those 3 things,
15:25 and then, of course, it's their decision to make,
15:27 whatever decision they make, I'm glad to support them in
15:30 that decision, and glad to work with them on that.
15:34 But many patients have no clue how much better
15:37 they will get by significantly changing their diet.
15:41 Well the next graphic we have, Rise, actually is
15:44 of the American Heart Association diet and what it
15:47 does after bypass surgery.
15:49 These are patients who had bypass surgery...
15:51 And 3 years after their bypass surgery, 41% of them had
15:56 progression of their coronary artery disease.
15:59 Now notice, this is a significantly lower fat diet
16:02 The top of the screen there says 25% fat
16:05 200 to 250 mg of cholesterol
16:08 The average American is eating
16:09 about 400 mg of cholesterol a day
16:11 And maybe closer to 40% fat. Yeah, 35 to 40% fat.
16:15 And so, this seems like a significant improvement to them
16:19 At 5 years, 65% had progression, 7 years 77% had progression
16:25 And after 10 years, 85% of patients on this diet had
16:29 progression of their coronary artery disease.
16:32 This is why repeat bypass surgery needs to be
16:35 done 10 years later in many individuals.
16:38 And then they're confused...
16:40 They said, "Hey, you know, I lowered my fat intake,
16:42 I lowered my cholesterol intake ... why is this happening?"
16:47 And finally, a physician by the name of Dr. Ornish,
16:50 got involved and he said, "I think if we do more in
16:54 changing the diet, we might actually be able
16:57 to change this course. "
16:58 So there's like this sliding scale... where here is
17:01 maybe the typical American diet... with all the fatty,
17:06 high cholesterol foods, meats
17:08 And maybe here is a diet that you're advocating,
17:10 and people can make these changes, but they're going to
17:14 see results in relation to the changes they make. Absolutely
17:18 So, if they slide over here, they're still going to see
17:20 improvement the closer they get this way,
17:22 but not the improvement necessarily that they could have
17:24 Not the improvement that they could have.
17:26 Well, Dr. Ornish put them on a low fat, vegetarian diet...
17:30 Got rid of the cholesterol in the diet.
17:33 And the effects were significant
17:36 If you look at the next graphic that we have,
17:40 you can see that the bad cholesterol... the ones in red
17:44 Of course, Dr. Ornish, did a control group like any
17:46 good scientific study has...
17:48 The low fat vegetarian people were in red,
17:52 so at 151 is when they started their diet,
17:55 and they went down to 95 in a rather short period of time.
17:59 The blue is the control group that was put on the
18:02 American Heart Association diet.
18:05 So you can see, the LDL cholesterol, the bad cholesterol
18:08 went from 151 to 95 just by diet and lifestyle alone.
18:12 And the other group went down 9 points. That's phenomenal
18:16 And, of course, when you get those results,
18:18 you're going to see significant results.
18:20 Dr. Ornish showed that about 90% of his patients
18:26 actually had an improvement in the blockages in the
18:29 arteries in their heart just by lifestyle.
18:32 So they didn't have to have bypass surgery.
18:34 They didn't have to have the angioplasty because
18:37 instead of getting that, they were randomized to a
18:40 lifestyle program, and their arteries started opening up
18:43 just with the lifestyle program. That's fantastic!
18:46 Then, in addition to that, what was amazing...
18:49 is their symptoms improved.
18:50 The reason why they had the heart caths to begin with
18:53 was due to the fact they were having chest pain.
18:55 And, if you look at the next graphic there,
18:59 I think you will see the significant improvement that
19:02 occurred in chest pain.
19:04 Again, the group in pink or red is the vegetarian group
19:09 At the beginning of the study, they were having
19:11 5 episodes of chest pain per week...
19:13 At the end of the study, less than 1
19:16 In fact, less than a half... 0.45
19:18 The American Heart Association group had 2 episodes of
19:22 chest pain per week to begin with,
19:23 but at the end of the study, 6 episodes of chest pain.
19:27 And the dramatic difference that occurred there
19:30 actually occurred within 3 weeks in the vegetarian group.
19:34 And this is what confused the researchers in this study
19:37 because they thought, "Well, it's going to take a year
19:39 to reverse the changes in the arteries,
19:43 and why are we seeing their chest pain go down to nothing?"
19:46 In fact, we find this in our Lifestyle Center...
19:48 We'll have people that cannot walk across the room
19:50 without having chest pain.
19:52 And in 3 weeks at the Lifestyle Center,
19:54 they'll be walking 5 miles, and they'll be OFF of their
19:57 nitroglycerin, and they're not having chest pain!
20:00 The same person with the same arteries now getting better
20:06 blood supply in a short period of time.
20:09 The difference is the fact that the vegetarian diet is
20:12 so much higher in arginine.
20:14 Arginine which is an amino acid.
20:17 Yes, it's a protein building block, an amino acid,
20:20 and arginine gets turned into substance in the body
20:23 called nitric oxide
20:26 Nitric oxide you might recognize the name... right?
20:28 Nitric oxide is what nitroglycerine also gets
20:33 turned into... So, patients when they take
20:35 nitroglycerin are trying to improve their nitric oxide
20:37 levels to cause a relaxation of the arteries.
20:41 The arteries are not just like lead pipes that come
20:43 to our faucets...
20:45 They actually are flexible because they are
20:47 muscular organs
20:48 And if we get arginine in them, high amounts of arginine will
20:52 increase that nitric oxide, and relax the arteries,
20:55 and that will improve the blood supply to the heart.
20:57 And so, a vegetarian diet being much higher in arginine is going
21:02 to produce much better blood flow even before the blockages
21:05 start going away on angiogram.
21:08 And, our next graphic actually shows the foods that are
21:11 high in arginine, and you can see red kidney beans
21:15 at the top... 2.6 grams, an excellent source of arginine
21:19 Garbanzos even higher yet... sometimes called chickpeas
21:23 Lentils an excellent source of arginine
21:25 And notice soybeans are way up there.
21:28 But even higher yet are pumpkin seeds... That's amazing
21:32 a very high source of arginine and will produce relaxation
21:37 in the arteries and really get better blood supply.
21:40 And how does that compare maybe with the protein that
21:43 comes from animal sources then...
21:44 That's what they were comparing was the 2 sources of
21:47 Yeah, the protein from animal sources are higher in lysine
21:50 lower in arginine, and there is a little bit of arginine
21:54 in animal protein but not near enough to get
21:57 the nitric oxide levels there.
21:58 You always hear about protein with body builders
22:00 and we always hear that, you know, the protein that
22:03 comes from meat is going to be the perfect protein.
22:05 But here we see there are differences between the
22:07 proteins, but it's actually to your advantage
22:10 to get protein from a vegetable source.
22:12 Yeah absolutely. The amino acid ratios are much better as far
22:16 as conducive to circulation and health...
22:20 And actually, to some extent, even endurance in the muscles
22:23 themselves.
22:25 Well, the amazing thing also, about the program
22:28 the "Lifestyle Heart Trial" is what Dr. Ornish did...
22:31 is the fact that it was not just diet alone
22:36 There were some other factors in the "Lifestyle Heart Trial"
22:38 that seemed to produce the benefit.
22:40 That's right... Doesn't Dr. Ornish talk a lot about
22:42 love, and the power of intimacy in affecting our heart.
22:47 And that was kind of interesting how he got involved in that...
22:50 but he was involved in animal research as well
22:53 And they were feeding different types of diets to rabbits,
22:57 and what they noticed is that the diets were important
23:02 in the rabbits...
23:03 Cholesterol hurts rabbits' arteries just
23:06 as much it does ours.
23:07 But they notice there was a difference as well besides
23:11 just diet, and the rabbits that were on the bottom cages
23:15 actually had much better circulation and didn't get
23:18 the blockages as fast as the rabbits on the top cages.
23:21 All right... what was the difference?
23:23 Well the top cages were too high for the ones who were
23:27 paid to feed the rabbits...
23:29 And they liked the rabbits, the ones who were feeding them
23:32 so when they would feed them, they would take the rabbit out
23:34 and pet the rabbit a little bit,
23:36 and kind of cozy up to the rabbit, or hold it,
23:39 and that type of thing...
23:40 where they couldn't reach the rabbits on the top cages,
23:42 they could just put the food in and that was it. No contact
23:45 And so that little bit of intimacy, so to speak,
23:50 and contact with a human being actually helped the
23:53 rabbits' circulation.
23:55 And now we know that to be true in human beings.
23:57 That's why men who have a successful marriage,
24:01 and even women as well, actually have less
24:05 coronary artery disease and better circulation.
24:07 I think people can even be involved sometimes
24:10 in marriage and lack the intimacy... Oh absolutely...
24:12 And lack that semblance of love and reap the benefits
24:16 I guess, from having a depth...
24:19 Yes, absolutely, and so it's not just being married,
24:22 but having a successful marriage where you
24:27 really have a relationship. Um hm
24:30 So that's an important factor...
24:32 Social support in other ways outside of marriage
24:35 can also be important.
24:37 Any physical exercise... you know,
24:39 the "Lifestyle Heart Trial" involved significant
24:42 physical exercise 3 hours per week as a minimum
24:46 of exercise and we know that's important for the heart
24:51 And also stress control...
24:53 an important component of heart health.
24:56 Yeah, and I think that all those things tie in with
25:00 living a balanced life.
25:01 A lot of people don't exercise,
25:02 or experience a large amount of stress because
25:06 they're workaholics, or they just feel the pace,
25:08 and they're running with it
25:09 And what's required, I think, sometimes is just that we
25:13 step back and say, "I'm going to take charge of my life again
25:16 and not let all these external things at work dictate
25:20 how I'm going to spend my time everyday. "
25:22 Absolutely! We're suffering from that.
25:24 Yes, we need to be in control of our own schedules
25:27 as much as possible... instead of our schedules
25:29 in control of us, and that's an important component
25:32 of overall health.
25:33 So we may think that we're gaining time now
25:36 by working all the time, but really, we're losing
25:38 time because it can shorten our life as you've been
25:40 explaining to us. Yes! Absolutely!
25:43 And so that really gets into the intricacies of
25:45 stress control as well.
25:47 And, you know, interestingly it's not just the amount
25:50 of stress, but how we cope with that stress
25:53 that's also important.
25:54 Another interesting study on stress showed that
25:57 if we are able to counteract the stress,
26:01 in other words, respond to it...
26:02 You know, everyone has deadlines in their life... for instance
26:05 And interestingly, people with more deadlines actually
26:08 have better health, if they are responding to those deadlines
26:14 and it's not JUST the fact that you have a lot of deadlines
26:18 that's going to produce ill effect, but whether you're
26:21 responding to it.
26:22 It's the STRESS that we CANNOT respond to, or we don't know how
26:26 to respond to it... that is the most adverse on the body.
26:31 And that's what's going to produce the significantly
26:33 higher adrenalin levels which are going to significantly
26:38 actually worsen blood pressure,
26:40 cause the blood pressure to go up, as well as cause
26:42 the cholesterol to be deposited in the arteries.
26:46 So when it comes to heart health,
26:47 there's a whole picture of stress, diet, love, intimacy
26:55 that if we incorporate, our heart will immediately
27:00 respond to as we saw in that trial.
27:02 It immediately responds to all the sudden shifting away
27:05 from maybe our unhealthful lifestyle practices,
27:09 and just 3 weeks of that kind of change in our life,
27:13 we would see a dramatic difference.
27:14 Yes, just 3 weeks.
27:16 And, you know, you can plan that change.
27:18 There is material written about this to show you how to
27:22 do it step by step, or you could go to a lifestyle center
27:25 There are lifestyle centers around the country now
27:28 that actually specialize in taking 3 weeks out of your life
27:31 You have a vacation there,
27:32 and you find out exactly how to do this and incorporate it
27:35 into your life.
27:36 Unfortunately, it seems like we can get all the education we
27:40 can get and yet ultimately, it's up to us to turn
27:44 that faucet off.
27:45 Ultimately it is up to us, and that's where it gets into
27:49 how to change permanently, and change positively.
27:54 A lot of people don't know how to do that, but we do
27:56 teach people how do that on subsequent
27:59 "Wonderfully Made" programs.
28:00 Well, we will look forward to that, Dr. Nedley
28:02 Thank you so much for being with us today.
28:04 It's been my pleasure, Rise
28:06 I think we can take home the message to turn off that
28:08 faucet and do it with a smile!
28:11 Until next time...


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