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Rhythms Of The Heart

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Participants: Daniel Miller, James Marcum

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00:35 Praise God for I am fearfully
00:37 and wonderfully made. This is a beautiful
00:40 quotation that is found in the Psalms, welcome
00:43 to Wonderfully Made. I am so glad you took time
00:46 out of your busy and hectic schedules to join us.
00:49 Today we're gonna talk about the important
00:52 topic of heart rhythms. My name is Dr. Jim Marcum
00:55 and I am a cardiologist with a Chattanooga
00:57 Heart Institute. And with me today is Dan Miller,
01:00 Dan Miller is a businessman from
01:03 Chattanooga as well, but he's also a consumer
01:06 advocate of health care. And I am so glad
01:09 he's here and our goal today is to talk to you as
01:12 if we were right there in the house with you,
01:14 we collected questions from all over the world
01:17 dealing with this important topic of heart rhythms.
01:21 What we've done is we, hopefully we can cover
01:24 everything of interest and Dan is gonna if we
01:25 talk a little bit to technical Dan is gonna
01:28 sort of correct us and slow us down a little bit
01:31 and he is gonna make this, everyone feels like
01:32 we are right in here living room today talking.
01:36 So Dan with that introduction
01:37 let's get going with the questions.
01:39 Okay thank Jim, the first question is from
01:44 Brenda she lives in Atlanta and she's
01:48 38 years old, she works as an executive secretary
01:52 and her question is this, she has noticed that
01:57 her heart pounds and races at times.
01:59 It usually happens when she is preparing
02:02 to go to bed and it really bothers her,
02:05 okay, what could be causing this?
02:08 Well Brenda, that is an excellent question,
02:11 many people especially in your age group have
02:14 this problem with pounding hearts.
02:16 Dan, have you ever had a problem
02:19 with a pounding hearts? Yeah, yes, I have.
02:20 Now have you ever notice any time of the
02:22 day when this pounding usually occurs?
02:24 Generally in the evenings, generally in the evening
02:27 well that's a common time when pounding does occur.
02:29 And the reason pounding occurs in is,
02:31 there's so much stimuli that goes on during the
02:34 day and at the evening time people start to notice
02:37 and slow down a little bit and they start feeling
02:39 things that they normally wouldn't feel when
02:41 they're too busy during the day.
02:43 Well Brenda, the most common cause of this in
02:47 your age group would be some thing that's
02:50 called premature ventricular contractions.
02:53 Sometimes we just called as PVCs, this is
02:57 very frequently, now how do I know that
02:59 without testing? Well I don't, but the way
03:02 we would test is put, on a fancy device
03:05 called a Holter monitoring device.
03:07 You've heard about a Holter monitoring device?
03:09 No, I haven't. Well let explain a little bit about
03:11 what a Holter monitoring is, that's a
03:13 special device we put on electrodes and we can
03:16 tell every beat of your heart for x amount
03:19 of time, we can measure from 24 to 48 hours.
03:22 And this is one of the most useful tools that
03:24 we have to detect rhythms of the heart.
03:27 Let's put up our first graphic regarding
03:30 premature ventricular contractions or PVCs.
03:33 Many different things can cause these PVC's
03:36 it could be a structural abnormality within the
03:38 heart that is the heart doesn't work well,
03:40 it's either too weak or the valve's messed up
03:43 or some other problem. Caffeine in the United
03:46 States, caffeine is a frequent cause of PVC's,
03:49 there's certain over the counter drugs that
03:51 can cause it, especially those for cold
03:53 medications that have a substance called
03:56 pseudoephedrine. And stress is a cause of PVC's
04:00 and there is host of medical problems that
04:02 cause these premature ventricular contractions.
04:05 So, this is very common problem Brenda and
04:09 getting back to your question I would be
04:12 very curious, if you were my patient whether
04:14 you did have a structurally normal heart
04:16 and I would ask you a bunch of questions
04:18 about the stress and medications you were
04:20 and we probably wanna put a monitor on you.
04:22 Does Brenda's age have any bearing on
04:24 any of this. Well in pregnant years okay
04:28 we think of PVCs as something that's causing
04:32 stress to the heart, right. And that stress
04:34 can come from anywhere, it can come from the job,
04:39 not sleeping while at night, it could cause
04:41 from a substance like nicotine or caffeine,
04:43 it could come from being scared.
04:45 If I scared you Dan today if I will boo,
04:47 you would jump and you might have a PVC.
04:49 Well all these things can cause the heart to skip,
04:53 in this age group another thing that
04:56 we have to keep in the back of mind
04:57 is could this person be pregnant.
04:59 That would put a definitely a stress
05:01 on the heart. What happens physiologically
05:04 when they're under stress you make a hormone,
05:06 and that hormones called Epinephrine,
05:08 and that Epinephrine is usually what causes
05:11 the heart to skipping beat, and one of the
05:13 treatments that we do if the skips are just
05:15 unbearable, we can't do anything as we
05:17 try to block that receptive with medications.
05:19 So, Brenda what could be causing this well back
05:23 to your question, it could be the medicines
05:25 you take and it could be that a rare
05:28 cause be structural abnormality but
05:30 usually in your age group it's just the stress of
05:32 everyday life that's causing the skip beats
05:34 and that could cause for many things, right.
05:36 Alright, let's get our second question then,
05:41 this comes from Mel in Toronto and the speed
05:48 of his heart is about 38 to 42 beats per minute,
05:52 he takes Atenolol, Atenolol for high blood
05:57 pressure and it's making him very tired,
06:01 do you think that he needs a pacemaker?
06:04 Oh okay, Mel, that's a question we hear a
06:08 lot of and before I ask you a question,
06:10 a lot of people don't even know what a
06:12 pacemaker is, have you ever seen a pacemaker?
06:14 I have not. Okay, well I brought a pacemaker
06:16 with me today, and this is a pacemaker
06:19 and it's keeps the hearts going when it's
06:21 not beating strong enough.
06:23 And the way we have this pacemaker is inserted
06:25 right here under the skin and here is a lead that
06:28 goes inside the right ventricular chamber
06:31 and some time we put a lead in the top chamber
06:33 which is the right atrium and this not only beats
06:37 the heart but every single beat that the heart
06:39 does it can monitor. And we have ways on
06:42 a pacemaker we can tell everything
06:44 that's happening within the heart.
06:45 Now what is this made out of him, okay.
06:47 This pacemaker is made of a substance and
06:50 element called titanium which is very stable
06:53 in the body and these are special plastics
06:56 that go in the body the body doesn't react to it,
06:59 so you don't have a bad reaction or anything
07:01 like that. Pacemakers are one of the most frequent
07:04 treatments we have for heart disease.
07:06 Before we had pacemakers when the heart went
07:10 slower and slower and slower, it would just stop.
07:12 Right. And if the heart's not beating we have
07:14 no blood pressure, and one of the first
07:17 pacemakers that went in, I don't know if people
07:19 realize this was a, did you ever hear about
07:21 Alfred Hitchcock? Yes sir. Okay, well Alfred
07:24 Hitchcock had one of the first pacemakers
07:26 and back in those days the pacemakers were
07:28 about the size of my hand and it went in the belly.
07:31 And that's what it took to keep his heart going,
07:34 but through the years as you see the pacemakers
07:36 have gotten smaller and smaller.
07:38 And it's my prediction the some day there are
07:39 gonna be on the size of a computer chip.
07:42 Now can these be monitored any other way then,
07:45 how does the monitoring process work?
07:47 Well we have couple ways we can monitor Dan,
07:50 one of the ways we can do it as with a hand held
07:52 device over, that we can tell every beat that
07:55 the heart has. Another way nowadays we can
07:57 actually download the information that's stored
08:00 in these computer chips on the Internet, right.
08:03 And I can actually see every beat of a patient's
08:05 heart for a long period of time, in addition
08:08 to see how often the pacemaker's used,
08:10 to see when it's wearing out, to see when it's,
08:13 you know the battery might need to be replaced.
08:15 So, you are saying I could be traveling somewhere,
08:17 oh yeah and you could monitor me from
08:20 a long distance. Totally mobile with the
08:22 pacemaker you know another thing the people
08:26 don't realize is some people ask me can I get
08:29 into MRI's and magnetic fields.
08:31 We usually advice not to get in a MRI machine,
08:34 right. Now an MRI machine is a fancy
08:36 machine that takes pictures of you,
08:38 because it's got such a strong magnetic,
08:40 it can pull on that, we don't want it
08:41 to be pulling on someone's heart.
08:42 It's just like in airports and restaurants and
08:44 stuff like that they've got the signs of that.
08:46 Right, you can still go there but it would
08:48 detect metal in you, and the alarms would go off,
08:51 so it's frequently a cause of, especially
08:53 now with all the problems we've had
08:54 at the airports it's a very frequent problem.
08:57 But, you know what we forget to answer
08:58 Mel's question here, yes we did.
09:01 Mel, making you tired, well could the rhythm
09:05 be making you tired is going 38 to 42 beats
09:07 per minute. A normal runs about 70 beats
09:10 per minute, so the rhythm itself might be making
09:13 you tired, or it might be the Atenolol.
09:15 Atenolol is a medication which slows down
09:19 the heart, it's slows down the wiring of the
09:21 heart so that could be making you tired.
09:23 Do you need a pacemaker?
09:24 A pacemaker is needed usually when the heart
09:28 can't generate enough blood pressure to supply
09:31 the brain. So, you might feel dizzy, you might
09:35 pass out, you might feel weak, those are
09:37 symptoms that would say hey I think you might
09:40 need a pacemaker. Let's go up to our
09:42 second graphics, that has to do with when
09:46 a person might need a pacemaker and here
09:47 the indications for a pacemaker, the heart's
09:50 too slow, okay well the mouse is going too slow
09:54 and he's tired well so he's having some symptoms.
09:57 Usually we see dizziness, so that
09:59 might be a reason, conduction disease
10:01 what that means is the actual wires of the heart,
10:03 the batteries, the thing that keeps the heart
10:06 going or disease. And the last thing is sometimes
10:10 people need to take the medications to slow
10:13 the heart down. The medications are so
10:15 important to slow the heart rate that we put
10:18 a pacemaker in just show the patient can take
10:20 the medications. So, sometimes in that
10:23 emphasis those people also need a pacemaker,
10:25 so but Mel is taking a medication which could
10:29 slow his heart. So, the first thing that I would
10:31 do with Mel here is I, Mel, I would stop your
10:34 Atenolol and use a different medication
10:36 to treat your blood pressure and then
10:39 I would put monitor on you, these Holter
10:43 monitors and see how the rhythm's doing
10:45 and see if anymore symptoms occur.
10:47 If more symptoms don't occur I don't think
10:49 I would worry a lot, now another thing
10:53 Dan I might do is I would watch Mel's heart
10:55 rate when he walked. You know lots of people,
10:57 athletics go very, very slow when they're
10:59 not doing anything but if it speeds up when you
11:01 do things that's a great sign, right.
11:04 Now let me ask you a question, okay.
11:06 Do you know many people don't realize this,
11:09 do you know when do think what part
11:11 of the day do you think your heart goes
11:13 the slowest and what part
11:14 do you think it goes the fastest?
11:17 I would say the slowest would probably
11:20 be in my sleep, that's correct.
11:24 Fastest would probably be when I first wake up,
11:28 that's right, if you're not, that's great Dan,
11:30 you're on the top of this if you don't have
11:32 a lot of stress on your or other side stimuli
11:36 like you're getting cut or hit, your heart's
11:39 gonna go fastest in the mornings,
11:41 'cause the hormonal system starts kicking in
11:43 and slows down in fact I've seen people's hearts
11:46 on these monitors run with no problems at all
11:48 run in 20s to 30s at night, it goes pretty slow,
11:52 right and that's when the body is resting,
11:53 the heart has the time to catch up from the day.
11:55 So, Mel good luck with your heart and
11:58 I hope that answered your question.
12:01 Alright, let's go to question number three,
12:04 it's from Robert in Pennsylvania.
12:08 He says, I'm a minister of a 1500 member
12:12 congregation in Pennsylvania.
12:15 We recently had a parishioner die
12:18 after the morning services, what are your
12:22 thoughts on getting an automatic external
12:24 defibrillator, okay. And most of his congregation
12:29 is elderly, so this is really
12:31 something that concerns him.
12:32 Okay, well this defibrillator issue
12:36 is coming up more and more, in the
12:38 Chattanooga area recently we had a young
12:41 person that actually died from one of these
12:44 dangerous heart rhythms, right.
12:46 It's very rare for a young person to have
12:48 these in every year you heard about a football
12:51 player that has one of these abnormal rhythms
12:53 that was otherwise undetectable.
12:56 So, the issue is should everyone in different
13:00 places carry these defibrillators,
13:02 because you can get a defibrillator to a
13:04 person quickly you can literally save many lives,
13:08 right. And economics that is you know should
13:12 these big churches where there's lots of people
13:14 that could potentially have an arrhythmia from
13:17 a heart problem die. Now before I answer this
13:20 question I just want to go over at of all the
13:22 causes of death in America, the most likely
13:25 cause of death is gonna be cardiovascular disease.
13:28 And a lot of people don't realize that 43 percent
13:30 of all deaths in the United States is due to
13:34 cardiovascular disease, right. Now that's greater
13:36 then wars and cancers and infections
13:38 and every thing combined.
13:40 An interesting statistic is if you have a heart
13:43 attack guess how many people you know
13:45 guess what percentage dies before they
13:47 even make it to the hospital from a heart attack?
13:49 I have no idea. 33 percent, most people
13:52 don't think it's that high, right.
13:54 But, if you have a heart attack there
13:55 is a one in three chance that you are gonna
13:57 before you even make it to the hospital.
13:58 That's why these defibrillators are so much
14:02 in the news and so much you know everyone
14:04 is want to talk about him.
14:06 So, thought on it automatic external
14:10 defibrillator, I think this would be an excellent
14:13 thing for your congregation.
14:14 And the training involved really is very simple
14:17 in fact we brought a defibrillator with
14:20 us today. At this point time let me put this on
14:25 you Jim, but you know and we're gonna sort
14:28 of pretend that and the first thing we do
14:31 as we turn, and show everybody how it
14:33 actually work. Right it's not that hard to work
14:34 and you would be surprised how easy it is to work
14:36 and if you are looking at Robert if you are
14:39 looking at this show this evening I want you
14:41 to sort of put this in your back your mind
14:43 for your congregation, lot of people think
14:46 it's hard to work, but it's not very
14:48 easy okay is a device on?
14:50 You turn it on, okay and we are gonna things
14:54 going here, okay I think it's ready to open up.
15:01 You push the button on the front of the machine,
15:04 the device opens up, and you have to hit it again,
15:08 push it one more time.
15:14 Okay this device we're gonna have to get it
15:19 going here, it's suppose to come on here,
15:23 it talks to you actually when it comes on, correct.
15:25 Now we have trainer with me today,
15:27 so let's back up. "Call for help now."
15:30 Here it goes, so this point it's where
15:32 I call for health. "Remove clothing from chest."
15:34 So I would remove my. At this time right,
15:36 you'd laying on the ground and I would take
15:38 your clothing away from your chest.
15:40 We are going to install this on our shirt,
15:43 so you will take your jacket.
15:45 "Pull red handle to open bag."
15:48 So, I would pull this out.
15:50 "Pull each pad off the plastic."
15:53 When you pull that out.
15:54 "And apply pad to exposed chest."
15:57 You'll tear the two pads in half.
16:03 "Remove clothing from chest."
16:06 It repeats that if you, correct,
16:07 if you don't do something right or you can't.
16:09 This one actually has a picture showing us
16:11 where to put the, okay the pad,
16:14 so I would apply that on at that point.
16:16 "Pull red handle to open bag."
16:19 Okay, I would pull this one.
16:21 "Pull each pad off the plastic."
16:24 This one goes under your arms.
16:26 "And apply pad to exposed chest.
16:28 Do not touch patient. Evaluating heart rhythm."
16:35 And this point in time it automatically evaluates.
16:38 "Stand by." Okay. "Preparing to shock.
16:41 Everyone clear." So I'm gonna get out of the way.
16:44 "Do not touch patient, delivering shock."
16:50 Okay, well as you can see,
16:53 was that the first time you've ever done this?
16:55 Yes, it is. Now that was not too hard to put on
16:59 and yet if I really would have had a dangerous
17:01 heart rhythm that potentially could have
17:04 saved my life. And I would really wanted
17:06 this on that young person that day, right.
17:09 You know that happen to collapse in a gym
17:12 and I really want this on because someone
17:14 could have been trained to put this on
17:16 immediately it would have saved his life,
17:18 correct. Now a question we might get is
17:21 can you mess up with one of these?
17:22 I mean can you be shocked accidentally.
17:25 It is. I've never heard it happening and this only,
17:28 the reason it didn't shock me is because
17:30 my heart rhythm was normal.
17:31 But, it's only, it's trained to only shock that
17:33 abnormal heart rhythm which is called ventricular
17:36 fibrillation or ventricular tachycardia, right.
17:39 That's the one you see people over peoples
17:40 heart shocking you know dramatically.
17:44 So, Robert that's how you use these
17:47 and the prize of these defibrillators are coming
17:50 down every year. One of the questions that
17:53 comes up is what about the liability issues?
17:55 You know are you liable if you have one,
17:58 are you liable if you don't have one, right.
18:00 And these are being worked through right now,
18:02 but most people have a short training course
18:05 they have to be basic service support,
18:08 but when I, I talk to people about what do
18:11 they need one of these, I say, we just don't
18:13 choose it not to, for the legal reasons,
18:17 I mean you want to have this to save lives.
18:19 Save somebody's life, you're correct.
18:20 And if you didn't have it what would happen,
18:22 right and what's the worse thing that can
18:23 happen if you mess up? Do it over,
18:26 I would suppose. Right, I mean but if you don't
18:28 even have the machine you know
18:30 someone is gonna, you don't even have that
18:31 change. Exactly, correct and if you don't get
18:32 the paramedics there within five minutes
18:34 and deliver that shock that patient has
18:36 very little ability of having significant
18:39 long term recovery, right. So, Robert there it is,
18:42 that's a defibrillator and we hope you consider
18:46 getting it and if there is anymore questions,
18:49 the people that run these defibrillator companies
18:52 on the websites, this one happens to be one
18:55 then by company called Medtronic, they're more
18:59 than happy to give information on this.
19:02 It's extremely easy, okay now we stop it,
19:04 hope it doesn't go off again, let's not.
19:06 Okay we don't want it to start talking,
19:07 we got to finish this show Dan.
19:08 So, with that, let's go to the next question.
19:14 Lets leave that closed there and the next
19:17 question will be from Lynette in Tennessee.
19:21 The speed of my heart races at times,
19:24 I was at Disney World a few years ago
19:26 and nearly fainted from this rhythm.
19:29 I have two small children and live
19:31 an active lifestyle. This rarely occurs should
19:36 I will concerned? Well, yeah the speed
19:40 of the heart races, you can go ahead
19:42 and put that up if you need to, Lynette,
19:44 this is a good question, in the heart there are
19:47 some times groups of cells that become very,
19:49 very unhappy. And these cells can generate
19:52 a fast rhythm and sort of generic name we give
19:56 for that is a big name it's called
19:57 supraventricular tachycardia, where the
20:00 heart goes real fast and sometimes when the heart
20:03 goes fast like this you don't get blood pressure
20:05 to your head. And that's what makes
20:07 you feel so poorly, one of the things we say
20:11 when it happens okay lay down and
20:14 put your feet up and you can sometimes
20:16 rub on this part of your neck and some times
20:19 this will actually slow your heart down enough
20:21 until you can catch your breath.
20:23 If it continues for a long period of time
20:25 you really need to go to the hospital,
20:28 so we can need a monitor on you,
20:30 or get an EKG to see what this rhythms about.
20:34 Because you don't want to be having this
20:35 rhythm when you go down with your kids.
20:38 That could, a ride at Disney World have
20:41 brought that about. Yeah I guess it's possible
20:45 but usually these rhythms are triggered
20:47 on their own. Most people have these that
20:51 they're doing nothing and then it just comes on.
20:53 Now we do know that there are some triggers
20:55 that make it worse, if you're dehydrated,
20:57 and some times you can take a stimulant
20:59 from the heart, and some of more common
21:01 stimulates that you might see at a theme part
21:03 would be stress from two small kids all day.
21:05 Standing in line, yes if you don't have to
21:07 fast passes, you have to stand in life a lot
21:09 at Disney World. Another thing we talked
21:12 about caffeine and if you get dehydrated.
21:15 If you're not drinking all day don't have
21:16 enough fluid, those are some other things
21:18 that could trigger this rhythm.
21:19 And the people just have it rarely
21:21 I recommend no treatment just monitor,
21:23 but if it happens on a regular basis more
21:25 frequently, we can actually go up inside the
21:28 body and destroy these dangerous
21:30 heart rhythms now with the small about
21:31 of energy, right. And if people don't wanted
21:33 to do that, we can also take medications.
21:35 Now is it a person's fault that they have this,
21:37 that's you know no, not really.
21:40 Most people are just sort of born that way
21:41 and they have these abnormal pathways
21:43 and they have to just live with that, right.
21:45 So, Lynette, good luck with your rhythm
21:46 and if it keeps coming on I would
21:48 go see your health care provider.
21:51 Alright, next question is from Earl in Minnesota,
21:56 okay. He says atrial fibrillation runs
22:02 in my family. I'm 86, my doctor says
22:06 I have atrial fibrillation and he wants to put
22:11 me on a blood thinner. I don't want to,
22:14 okay, what do you think?
22:15 Okay, atrial fibrillation is another one of these
22:20 rhythms of the heart. Now we don't talk much
22:23 about it earlier, but the normal rhythm is called
22:25 a sinus rhythm, right. That means each rhythm
22:27 is generated from the special battery that
22:30 God give us called the sinus nerve.
22:32 That's a normal rhyme, so if it's going too slow
22:35 we called that sinus bradycardia or too slow
22:38 of heart rhythm. If it's going fast we called it,
22:40 tachycardia. Those are normal rhythms
22:42 of the heart, but just going slow for another
22:44 reason, right. Some times you could have
22:47 sort of these missed connections that
22:50 we talk about, and it's coming from the top
22:52 part of the heart this abnormal firing from
22:54 all sorts of funny spots, we call that
22:56 atrial fibrillation. And that's with the top
22:59 part is literally going like this,
23:01 it just squeezing all over, it's not working
23:04 symmetrically with the bottom part of the heart,
23:06 right. And guess what happens to blood,
23:08 if a heart squeezing like a bag of worm where
23:11 it comes through. Squeezed out,
23:13 well it's from of a squeeze out,
23:15 but as much as normal. But, actually when
23:16 it's moving like this you can get blood clots,
23:19 okay, the blood doesn't pass through.
23:21 And if a blood clot gets in there and it passes
23:24 through from the upper chamber to the lower
23:25 chamber and the lower chamber pumps
23:27 that blood clots somewhere it could go
23:29 to the head and cause stroke.
23:32 In fact about 15 percent of all strokes
23:36 in the United States are cause by this rhythm
23:39 atrial fibrillation. So, Earl, that's why your doctor
23:44 what's to put you on a blood thinner.
23:46 He wants to lower your risk of having a stroke.
23:49 Now is there some people that don't get
23:52 a blood thinner, you know yeah if the risk
23:55 of bleeding out ways the risk of the blood thinner
23:58 then you aren't good. And have to have frequent
24:01 monitoring when you're on coumadin.
24:03 Now do you know what coumadin rally is?
24:04 I don't know, what is that?
24:06 Okay, coumadin is rat poison, a lot of people
24:09 don't like to realize it's just a rat poison
24:11 and a lot of people don't like to take it
24:12 because it's rat poison, right.
24:14 But, it has lowered the risk of having a blood
24:17 clot in the body. And in atrial fibrillation
24:20 you have to evaluate the risk of being on the
24:22 blood thinners, whether you can taking the
24:23 monitoring versus the risk of falling and
24:26 bleeding, these are all very important things
24:29 to think about when you're on coumadin,
24:31 but Earl if you came to me and you had
24:33 atrial fibrillation, first of all I would say,
24:37 you know coumadin needs to be considered,
24:39 but the next thing I wanna look is the
24:41 different causes. You know why,
24:42 correct it's a very common rhythm
24:44 and with that my let's bring up the next graphic
24:46 about the causes of atrial fibrillation.
24:49 Okay, remember, this is where the top part's
24:52 going faster then the bottom parts.
24:54 Sometimes it can again be because there is
24:55 something wrong with the heart itself.
24:57 That is there is a structural heart problem,
24:59 you know it might be that it's stretched out,
25:03 it might be the valves are bad, there might
25:05 be an old heart attack. Some thing's wrong
25:07 with the heart itself that's causing it.
25:08 Sometimes you can have a thyroid condition,
25:11 remember the thyroid regulates these rhythms.
25:13 You can have a thyroid abnormality,
25:15 sometimes high blood pressure can actually
25:17 cause high blood, could cause this rhythm,
25:19 atrial fibrillation, because it stretches it out.
25:21 And there's a host of other causes and Earl
25:24 I wanna sort of go though some of those other
25:26 causes with you just in cause you might have
25:29 one of these, again we talked about being
25:32 dehydrated, right, having an infection,
25:34 certain medications can sort of cause it be
25:37 more likely to happen. Just being sick can
25:40 cause it happen, correct. Now one of the things
25:43 the heart likes most is oxygen, okay and we
25:46 found that people don't get enough oxygen,
25:48 so if Earl has a lot of lung disease,
25:51 that could a trigger for this atrial fibrillation,
25:54 right. And in this rhythm you feel pretty
25:56 bad if it's, the heart is going too fast.
25:58 So, atrial fibrillation is one that you usually
26:01 you have to go in the hospital to get it treated,
26:02 so it's a pretty tough thing to have.
26:05 So, I think coumadin is reasonable and
26:07 the other thing you know if we can fix the
26:09 underline cause. You know if Earl if you
26:11 have problems with your lungs is infection,
26:13 you are not getting enough oxygen,
26:14 let's fix that. Right, now do you have to do test
26:20 to balance the amount of coumadin that you're
26:21 getting, can you get too much, could be?
26:23 Yes, you can, we have to frequently check
26:25 the blood to see if the blood is too thicker
26:28 or too thin while in the coumadin,
26:29 because if it's too thin and you bonk your head,
26:31 you could have a very, very serious problems.
26:34 Right, right you know in the slide you also
26:40 mentioned that the thyroid has a lot.
26:43 Yeah. There are a lot of people with thyroid
26:45 problems in the United States, they would
26:47 seems like, yeah, I personally have some
26:51 problems with mine, and so that's something
26:54 that's even beneficial for me to remember, right.
26:58 You can go you know too low, too high,
27:00 thyroid is very common regulator of the heart,
27:02 it regulates the hearts speed.
27:03 Actually, a lot of people don't realize but a low
27:06 heart rate can cause you to have slow heart.
27:10 Now before we close today I wanted to show
27:12 the people we've talked about rhythms,
27:14 we talked a little about the slow ones,
27:16 right, a little bit about the fast ones.
27:18 And today I just want you to get interested
27:19 in your heart rhythm. One other thing I like
27:22 to show you that we brought with us today
27:24 this is a defibrillator, remember,
27:26 earlier in the show we had an external
27:29 defibrillator. Now what an external defibrillator
27:31 is a device that we put on immediately,
27:34 when someone's having a sudden problem with
27:37 their heart. Now this device and people with
27:39 weak hearts or people that have diseased heart
27:41 that needs this technology all the time,
27:43 this can be inserted under the skin and
27:46 it can deliver a shock and this one can
27:47 actually pace the heart anytime it might
27:50 be needed. Well we're almost out of time
27:52 today Dan. I wanna thank you for joining us,
27:54 and I hope that the audience has learned
27:56 something about the rhythms of the heart,
27:58 the fast ones, the slow ones, a little bit more
28:00 knowledge about what to do.
28:02 And we hope that all of you can have hearts that
28:05 never go out of rhythm and we hope that God
28:07 will create new, a new heart, one that
28:10 depends on him daily to keep
28:12 your heart running smooth.


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