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Overcoming Back Pain

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Participants: Allan Handysides, Stoy Proctor

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00:01 The following program presents principles
00:03 designed to promote good health
00:05 and is not intended to take the place
00:06 of personalized professional care.
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00:11 of the speaker. Viewers are encouraged
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00:35 Welcome to our program today.
00:37 We are so pleased that we can be with you.
00:40 We are indeed most wonderfully made.
00:44 As we live in our bodies and we live our lives
00:48 we find that we sometimes have difficulties.
00:52 And today we are going to be talking about
00:54 a difficulty that has affected probably
00:56 four out of five Americans at least
01:00 in their life time. It's a disorder that
01:03 has caused people to expend billions not just
01:07 millions but billions of dollars in health care
01:10 whether they have had to pay that for paying
01:12 medication or to see their physicians to see
01:15 their chiropractors, health care providers,
01:18 physical therapists. Billions of dollars are
01:21 expended on the topic we are going to discuss today.
01:25 It is a pity that we do have to suffer sometime
01:28 from back pain. With me today I have
01:32 Stoy Proctor who is personally acquainted
01:36 with back pain but he has a success story
01:40 to bring to us. And are hoping that as
01:43 we have our discussion and we discuss the ways
01:46 and means to improve and alleviate back pain.
01:49 You will benefit and be able to apply some of
01:53 these lessons in your own life.
01:55 Stoy, I would like to welcome you to the
01:58 program today. Good to be here.
01:59 Thank you. Stoy could you describe back pain?
02:05 I could my own back pain but I will tell
02:07 you if someone who has had it,
02:09 it's a little difficult to explain yet it's
02:12 you know when you have it.
02:13 There is no question about that.
02:15 It's a pain that usually occurs in the lower part
02:18 of the back maybe the lower part of the after
02:21 the ribs and before the legs top of the legs
02:24 in the lumbar section that's the last
02:27 part of the spine. That's where it starts
02:29 hurting and that's the problem but that's
02:31 not where it stops. You maybe, you maybe
02:34 hurting the and the pain maybe extending
02:37 down your legs it makes you like a headache
02:40 feel bad all over. So if you've had it you know
02:44 you've had it and you don't need a definition
02:46 nor description of its pain. But unfortunately
02:50 I found some ways to not only alleviate my pain
02:54 but really almost eliminate it and
03:00 but as a physician Allan I would like to ask
03:03 you that maybe give us a description of the
03:06 lower spine. And what the potential is for
03:12 problems in that particular area as
03:13 we get older especially? Well, you know our
03:16 vertebral column and that's what we name
03:19 this spinal column. The vertebral column
03:22 it carries more than one function.
03:25 First of all it supports our body and gives us
03:28 the ability to walk erect, to balance
03:32 and it so it has to be flexible
03:34 it has to be able to move.
03:36 Secondly, it is a protective canal that
03:40 protects the nerve of the chief spinal cord
03:43 that is running out of the brain and protects
03:46 those nerve cables that come out of the lower
03:49 end of the spinal column, the spinal cord.
03:54 Now because of those two functions sometimes
03:57 you get a problem between the two of them.
04:00 So if we were to take a single vertebrae,
04:03 which is the single bone. And there are many bones,
04:06 seven in the neck, twelve in the thorax,
04:08 five in the lumbar spine. And then as we go down
04:11 to the sacrum we will find five fused bones.
04:14 And the little coccyx which is just protecting
04:17 the lower portion of the pelvis that
04:19 has a fusion of, in a kid we call that the tailbone.
04:21 Yeah the tailbone and that's exactly right,
04:24 it has three bones that are fused together
04:26 usually there. As we look at this spinal cord
04:29 the problems that are classically seen are
04:33 either in the neck or as you have said
04:35 in the lumbosacral area. Now there are two sorts
04:40 of problems between the vertebral bodies
04:44 of the bony supports there are little cushions.
04:48 These cushions contain a little dense nodule
04:52 of cartilage which acts when we run
04:55 or when we jump that's where we will get
04:57 a little flexibility in our spine, little spongy.
05:00 It's held in place by a circular ring of fibrous
05:04 tissue but sometimes it bulges or protrudes
05:09 or as your doctor may say herniates.
05:12 And if it does that and it presses on a nerve that
05:17 is coming from the back side of the
05:20 support column, it will then cause very severe
05:24 pain both locally and radiating.
05:27 So you'll feel the pain in the area that the
05:30 nerve is distributing now that type of pain
05:33 is made worst when you bent forward.
05:38 There is another sort of the pain that people
05:39 can have in their back or another source
05:41 of pain that people can have in their back.
05:42 And that is arthritis, now it's not
05:46 rheumatoid arthritis and we will talk about
05:49 arthritis in a future program.
05:51 But the pain of the osteoarthritis can also be
05:59 appreciated and an individual who bends
06:01 backwards. So when the person who bends
06:03 backwards and gets pain that is usually because
06:07 of the arthritis in the small joints of the
06:11 posterior position and there are many little
06:13 joints there. And on these little surfaces
06:15 they may become roughening or erroneous
06:18 because of wear and tear. And so we find that
06:22 there are two sorts of pains.
06:23 We have the joint pain or the articular pain
06:26 or we have the nerve compression pain
06:29 that comes from the prolapsing of the nucleus.
06:33 So we have two types, two major types of causes
06:37 for this pain. That's right and the back of
06:41 course you know is different in humans from
06:45 other animals, most animals are walking
06:47 on forelimbs, we are walking on two limbs.
06:51 And so we are transmitting the forces
06:54 of the gravity up the spine where of course
06:58 the forces of gravity in an animal are usually
07:01 transmitted across the spine.
07:04 And so some of our problems are related
07:07 to the fact that we do walk erectly
07:10 and we stand tall we hope. So we better
07:13 if we walked on arm for rest. I don't think so,
07:15 no, no, I am not saying that but I am just
07:18 distinguishing the differences between
07:20 as we find in other. The weight, oh the
07:21 gravitational weight. And the forces that
07:23 are applied to the spine. Now there's some other,
07:27 there's some other causes, you have
07:28 mentioned two major causes but there's another
07:31 you know lifestyle causes that might contribute
07:35 to back pain. Like I am thinking of weak muscles.
07:41 Yes. Is that a, is that a problem?
07:44 Well, I think that in a society such as we have
07:47 in North America, very often we live a
07:50 sedentary lifestyle. So sedentary lives.
07:53 And that means that we don't strengthen
07:56 our backs and our exercise is not good.
07:58 Many times we are sitting at a desk I mean
08:00 if you seeing us sitting on the stools
08:02 and then we, you know, we tend to stoop
08:05 a little bit, to slump a little bit.
08:06 I know being a student for I must have studied
08:09 for may be 14-16 years of studying.
08:12 Bent over the desk that tends to make
08:15 you become stooped and your muscles
08:18 don't get the workout that they really need.
08:22 In Africa, when I was in Africa I wouldn't see
08:25 the complaints of back pain nearly as commonly
08:28 because many Africans were very physically
08:32 active and mobile and so there muscles
08:36 were much stronger, and that's very
08:39 important thing. The other thing is
08:41 of course 60% of North Americans are obese.
08:46 And if you have ever watched a pregnant lady,
08:50 I have watched many pregnant ladies being
08:52 an Obstetrician. They would walk into my office
08:54 with what I used to call the proud gate
08:57 of pregnancy. Leaning back a little,
09:00 putting her shoulders back the tummy of course
09:02 is protruding with a gravid uterus,
09:05 they got all the contents of the fluid
09:06 in the placenta, and the baby in there.
09:08 And so they would walk back and they were
09:10 really not proud. But the balance.
09:12 They were getting trying to get the balance.
09:13 They were trying to get balance, now you put
09:15 obesity there, you know if somebody has a big
09:17 beer belly or sometimes it's not a beer belly
09:20 it just sometimes a bread belly you know.
09:22 Or it just sometimes any kind of belly that shows
09:25 they are eating, eating too many of calories.
09:26 Yes, people who are like that they can have
09:28 back pain. Women too can have back pain
09:30 from obesity associated with large breasts
09:35 and they will often get an upper back pain
09:38 or shoulder pain from that.
09:40 So there are many different.
09:41 There are some others too contributing to sports.
09:43 What part of sports play in this type of pain?
09:49 There is a difference between a sport
09:54 in general and exercise in general.
09:56 Of course, you want exercise just to play
09:58 a sport well but many sports are
10:01 competitive sports. And contact sports.
10:03 And contact sports. And really we pay an
10:07 awful price. I saw a young man walking
10:10 through the office just the other day
10:12 and I said to him my goodness have you hurt
10:13 yourself, you got a limp. He said I have had
10:16 a knee replacement but I said. Young man?
10:18 Young man, I said how old are you?
10:20 He said, I am only 45. I said that is dreadful,
10:23 you must have played sports.
10:24 He said yes he played a lot of sport.
10:27 And you the tackling the contact it causes
10:30 damage. And yes injuries sustain to the back.
10:33 In fact, nurses in particular have a lot
10:37 of back problems because they often
10:39 lifting patients, and, so improper lifting.
10:42 Improper lifting, we will talk about that
10:44 little later. We will talk about that little later.
10:45 Now, you know what amaze me as I was preparing
10:49 for this program tobacco, how does tobacco
10:53 play in this? I am not quite sure how tobacco
10:58 plays in this but it does play. I have not a
11:01 slightest doubt that people who smoke have
11:04 worst spectrum. It seems as those the coughing
11:07 maybe throws there back out sometimes.
11:09 Another reason that they maybe have
11:12 it is because of the osteoporosis we know
11:15 that there is a loss of bone in the people
11:17 who smoke. And so it maybe that their bones
11:20 are not as strong but coughing and most
11:23 smokers have a chronic cough seems to
11:25 exacerbate the back pain. Anything to do with
11:28 lack of circulation because tobacco
11:30 constricts, restricts circulation?
11:32 Well, of course once imagination can go wildest
11:34 to what it could be but I really don't matter.
11:36 Anyway we just know that appear that's one thing
11:39 you shouldn't be doing if you want to avoid
11:41 the back pain. Now alright let's suppose a person
11:45 has back pain when do I know to go
11:49 see my physician? Most back pain that
11:54 is of significance is either severe enough
11:58 or chronic enough that you begin to say you
12:01 wanna do it. I mean just think about yourself
12:03 you had back pain. I actually stood it
12:06 as long as I could. Yes and what did you do?
12:08 And after few days then I said look it's not
12:10 getting any better so I have got to do
12:12 something so I want to see a doctor.
12:14 And I believe you gave him an ultimatum.
12:16 Well, that was my second doctor, oh I see.
12:19 The first doctor was a regular physician,
12:21 and that's what can you do for me?
12:23 Well you use some painkiller.
12:24 Well I tried that for a few days and that
12:27 didn't help and mean it you know
12:28 it helped reliving the pain but as soon as the,
12:31 wore off I still had the problem yet,
12:33 I said well I have heard of doctors of osteopathy.
12:37 That they I heard that they may,
12:39 I was a little concerned about a chiropractic
12:42 so I said well I was to go to the doctor
12:43 of osteopathy and see what they will say.
12:47 And this was not my first episode I had you know
12:51 pain last maybe my pain last for a few days
12:55 to a few weeks. And finally I get over
12:58 it but then I couldn't come back again.
13:01 And it was getting really disgusting.
13:03 Because I didn't think anything was structurally
13:06 wrong a herniated disc or pinched nerve
13:10 or something like that. I just knew I was hurt it,
13:12 in fact it got so bad that I that I would have
13:14 to lay right flat on the floor and I will go
13:17 into that just in minute what some of these.
13:18 You won't lie on the floor here.
13:19 No, I won't lie on the floor here but I have
13:21 to lay on the floor. And then he would take me
13:22 maybe an hour get up off the floor when I need
13:25 to get up. And how old are you?
13:27 I was about eighteen. Oh, my goodness!
13:29 And so I went to this doctor, who is a DO
13:33 and I said you know I have been struggling
13:36 with this long enough. I am going to give you
13:39 on treatment one of his visit to help me
13:43 and we can't I think, I am gonna have to go
13:44 with surgery. He says well I don't know I can't
13:49 promise you but I think I can help you.
13:51 So he stretched my muscles little bit
13:54 and then pulled rather my back little bit
13:56 is it alright I have done my part now you gotta
13:59 do your part. Your part is follow these exercises
14:03 do them several times a week maybe at
14:05 beginnings a couple of times a day several times
14:07 a week and in a month or so you are gonna be
14:10 strengthening your muscles enough.
14:12 So that you're, you're not gonna have to come
14:13 and see me again. You were very fortunate
14:16 to go to your physician, yes, who recognized
14:19 the route cause. Rather then just a symptom,
14:22 rather then just giving you I mean
14:23 he couldn't give you all kinds of medications.
14:25 Oh! Yeah in fact the first one did.
14:27 Yeah but you saw somebody who was able
14:30 to say let's look at the route cause
14:32 of this pain and let's address the route
14:35 cause by addressing the route cause he was able
14:37 to give you some good support.
14:40 Now there are some unusual conditions
14:43 and you know not normal conditions
14:45 why that cause back pain too.
14:47 And when we have it we may need to go see
14:51 a doctor what are some of those?
14:52 Well you know there are some serious
14:54 conditions that can cause back pain.
14:56 Beside exercise lack of exercise besides arthritis,
14:59 besides posture and some of those.
15:01 We are talking about here, we are talking about
15:04 forms of back pain that are common.
15:10 But if you've had a history of cancer then
15:13 it would be necessary for you to have your
15:16 back carefully checked and even with some
15:19 investigations because you would want to be
15:21 sure you didn't have maybe as secondary cancer
15:26 or metastasis in the spine. If you've had
15:29 an injury it's very important to check out
15:32 that there hasn't been a broken bone there.
15:35 Some times there are congenital problems
15:37 people can be born with the defective spinal
15:42 structures so that the spine may have slipped
15:46 forward on itself it's a condition called
15:47 spondylolisthesis. Sometimes back pain
15:54 is a result of an injury that may have not been
15:59 noted as being too major. My wife has had
16:02 a lot of trouble when she was a child
16:04 she was tobogganing and the toboggan went down
16:07 it seemed to me like it was going over about
16:09 a 90 degree angle and then there was a perfect
16:12 drop right on to the tip of spine.
16:14 And she has had pain in the coccyx which we call
16:17 coccydynia ever since. So you need to be seen
16:22 for that a sudden acute onset of the pain
16:25 that come suddenly may mean that something
16:27 sudden has happened to the spine.
16:30 So there are many reasons and we would
16:33 recommend very highly that a person with
16:35 chronic or severe back pain should be checked
16:38 by a competent physician, in fact
16:41 probably somebody who specializes in back pain.
16:44 Now what would they do how would they besides
16:47 just looking at you and listening to you,
16:49 complain about all that pain? What could they do
16:52 to sort a look into your back and see what
16:54 is really going on? It might depend on who you got
16:56 to see you know years ago when I was working
17:01 with a back pain specialist in Toronto
17:04 we would do ordinary plain x rays because
17:07 that was the best we had. And we sometimes
17:10 we would look at them and imagine
17:12 or see things on those plain films but to look
17:15 at the spine and come up with a very concrete
17:17 diagnosis is not an easy task.
17:20 Now chiropractors tend to use a lot of x rays.
17:23 And in so doing, they maybe give lot of
17:27 radiation to the back. Today with MRI's
17:33 it's possible to very, very clearly delineate
17:37 the spinal column, and the spinal cord
17:42 and to be able visualize and view many
17:45 of the foramina. Now those are the little holes
17:47 through which the nerves go.
17:49 And to make a very precise diagnosis
17:53 so today depending up on just the nature
17:57 and severity of your pain, the doctors first
17:59 they are going to take a history,
18:00 the history and the follow it with a
18:03 physical examination. He's going to see if when
18:06 he lift you lie down to and he lifts your leg
18:08 if there's a stretching of this sciatic nerve
18:10 if that causes pain. Because as you stretch
18:13 that nerve over maybe a protruding disc
18:15 it will give pain. He may want to know whether
18:19 the pain is when you bend backwards
18:20 when you bend forwards, he looks to see if there
18:24 is muscle spasm because a lot of back pain
18:26 is muscle spasm. A lot of the pain of back pain
18:29 is muscle spasm and that where chiropractic
18:31 or manipulation may very well help that
18:34 muscle spasm. How long if spasm is a problem
18:38 what about muscles relaxants?
18:40 Well they may work but again on the short term
18:44 medication for back pain is really not my first
18:48 choice I would prefer that something more
18:51 definitive be done then just trying to cover
18:53 the pain. Now let we talk about some other
18:55 area that's people have chronic back pain
18:58 that means they have almost continual back pain.
19:00 Now they start out with thyronol, aspirin
19:02 or something like that then they may go to
19:04 the muscle relaxant and then they graduate
19:08 till they are real serious pain medication
19:11 what are some of those and what are the dangers
19:14 of getting addicted? First of all we have
19:16 to understand back pain is a real problem,
19:19 it's really a major problem.
19:22 And people who have a severe pain do look
19:26 for a relief from that pain.
19:27 And when they start getting on to
19:29 the codeinones and the codeines.
19:31 And maybe even the more potent pain relievers
19:34 you know you they are gone to the percocets
19:36 and ended up to the, maybe even opioids
19:39 morphine, there's a real risk of addiction.
19:42 So physicians are very aware of these
19:45 and sometimes patients shot from one physician
19:48 to another. We need to be very careful.
19:50 They are varying prescriptions for more
19:51 than one. More than one, we need to be very
19:52 careful, yes this is where people need to be
19:56 aware of. Alright what about if you really
19:59 have a serious structural problem what
20:01 about surgery? When then how do we know
20:03 that we need a surgery? If there is a
20:06 definitive lesion, if you can find a degenerative
20:11 disc that some people call it or a prolapsing
20:13 of that disc that is compressing a nerve.
20:17 Maybe surgery can remove that
20:21 but there is a lot of surgery that is done
20:23 that doesn't result in benefit so it's a very
20:27 tricky question you have to have somebody
20:28 who is highly competent and whom you really
20:31 trust when you are thinking about surgery.
20:33 Some of the surgery is not reconstructive
20:36 but relatively destructive and that they may
20:39 need to fuse a segment so it just doesn't move
20:43 or bent so that there won't be pain in that zone.
20:47 But when you do that you actually diminish
20:50 the natural function. So surgery has a definite
20:53 place for intractable pain that's pain that
20:56 people can't cope with. And that there is a
20:58 specific lesion for but sometimes the surgery
21:03 is done when it would be better not to have
21:05 been done. That's good, you know I in my own
21:08 case I did need to go into use pains,
21:12 pain medication very long because of this doctor
21:15 who has given me these exercises.
21:17 And you know there are a number of things
21:19 we can do to relieve this pain.
21:21 Perhaps you share with us what the exercise
21:23 were because I think it's good for the
21:24 viewers to see. First of all you know many times
21:27 laying flat on the back on the floor on a rug
21:30 on a carpet or something like that
21:31 will give you pain. But some of the simple
21:34 exercises I wish we can demonstrate them here
21:36 but we can't. But I think I can explain them,
21:38 first of all just stretch out on your back
21:41 and then push your back here that you bottom
21:45 for you lumbar section toward just push towards
21:49 the carpet. And then raise the both legs about
21:52 three or four inches and hold it there.
21:54 The first time you do this you may not be able
21:57 to hold it very long but you will get up
21:59 and when shall you do it 4-5 times.
22:02 You will hold it, you will raise them up 4-5 inches
22:05 hold it up for 10 seconds to count of 10 then
22:08 drop and relax. Do it again for 3 or 4 times
22:10 as long as several times then you could that
22:13 a couple of times a day several times a week.
22:15 And that would begin to strengthening these
22:17 muscles and plus giving you a little relief.
22:20 Another thing you can do is to lie flat on the
22:23 back again and then leave your legs on the floor
22:26 flat on the floor but raise your shoulders up,
22:28 put your head and shoulders up just a
22:30 little bit be sure to keep the head straight
22:32 though just don't be moving the head.
22:35 But you wanna, wanna move all the that up
22:37 together if you can, now at first that's gonna be
22:40 hard to do for some people because those
22:42 muscles are weak that's why you may have
22:44 the back pain. And you don't want to be really
22:46 doing this sit ups a lot of people.
22:48 No that's too strenuous. That's too strenuous,
22:50 yes. Now the thing is to turn over on your
22:53 stomach and do basically the same thing raise
22:56 you head and shoulders together up just
22:58 a little bit up, up a little bit and hold it to
23:02 count of 5 or so and then relax and then try
23:05 that again. And the other is then pull have
23:09 your stomach and your chin on the floor.
23:11 And then raise your legs off while you are
23:15 on your stomach. This is just two very
23:18 simple exercises that will, will help.
23:22 Now the other thing we got a few minutes
23:24 left it might help to strengthening
23:27 your muscles is while we are like we are here
23:30 we can be slumped over or we can straighten
23:33 our back up. Now if you are sitting for long
23:35 periods of time just every few minutes of
23:38 self 15 to 20 minutes take it just strengthen up
23:42 and hold that for just a little bit you start
23:44 strengthen those muscles. When you are sleeping
23:47 maybe sleep on your side and into a fetal
23:51 position maybe put up pillow between your legs,
23:55 your knees so that's something you can do
23:58 while you're, while you're sleeping.
24:01 And another important thing I think is when
24:04 we are lifting objects be sure we use our knees
24:07 to lift our objects not, not the back don't bent
24:10 the back over and then pull up the object
24:13 especially if the object is maybe a foot away
24:16 from your feet. Yes. Be very careful to let the
24:20 knees do lifting. So these are things that you can
24:25 certainly do that simple things you can do that
24:28 might strengthen those muscles and give
24:30 you little relief. When we were married
24:31 my wife insisted because she had been thought
24:33 the importance of the firm bed, she insisted
24:37 that we have a hard bed. And then there maybe
24:38 some of you who are sleeping on a hard
24:41 bed because you have heard that a firm
24:43 bed is important for you. I think that
24:46 what we need to emphasis is not the
24:48 hardness of the bed it's the supportiveness
24:51 of the bed that is important.
24:53 We don't really want to have a sagging
24:57 type of hammock like bed. We bought a cottage up
25:02 in Canada I think you slept in some of those
25:04 Beds, Stoy. The beds came. It's like a hammock,
25:07 with them and the springs are like hammock.
25:09 And when you get in there, there's the bed.
25:11 And we have to take some boards in fact
25:14 I got some of those 4 by 8 boards that
25:17 we trimmed them down. And put those under
25:20 the bed to give the support but then
25:22 we would hope that the mattress
25:23 would be not sagging. That's 4 by 8 feet
25:26 doesn't it? That's right not 4 by 8 inches.
25:28 No, no not that would do really very much.
25:31 Alright. Yes that would be the feet
25:32 and of course we are cutting down to
25:33 about 6 by 3. And so that's important to
25:39 appoint to have is that your sleeping
25:41 should be good. I like the pillow soft coverings
25:44 on a nice supportive mattress because
25:46 it gives you a sensation of comfort and yet
25:50 there is the support. And of course,
25:52 so that means we probably go out
25:54 and buy a 100 dollars mattress right?
25:55 And that will give us all that support?
25:57 No 100 $ mattress won't do it.
25:59 You know when you think about how much
26:00 time you're spending in bed you going to sleep
26:03 maybe a third of your life. So if you live
26:06 for 75 years you gonna spend 25 years in bed.
26:10 And it's a very important investment.
26:12 Oh yes. To get a good bed. And they last,
26:15 and they last. They could last for 20 years maybe.
26:17 you know It was one of the things I found
26:19 and that is flexibility and strength building
26:23 exercises that has helped tremendously because
26:26 especially as we get older and you know
26:28 our range of motion, we lose that range of motion
26:33 unless we keep, unless we keep
26:34 exercising it and keep it, give it
26:36 attention to it. Very important.
26:37 So range of motion is very important in
26:39 flexibility exercises and there is lot of
26:41 flexibility exercises. Another strength building
26:45 exercise now we all know that anaerobic exercise
26:47 is very important but when we are talking
26:50 about the back flexibility and strength
26:53 are more important for back to alleviation
26:56 or prevention of back pain than aerobic exercises.
26:59 But let's not have one or the other
27:02 let's have all three. You know I worked with
27:05 the what is you heard a book called
27:07 The Back Doctor, Dr. Hamilton Hall
27:09 form Toronto. And he wrote a book on that
27:12 and he used to always emphasis strengthening
27:14 the abdominal muscles. And that's becausev
27:17 as you strengthen the abdominal muscles up
27:19 in the front you also strengthen the muscles
27:23 to the front of the spinal column.
27:26 And this way you end up with four muscles
27:30 supporting the spinal column front and back
27:33 very important. I think that we're coming
27:37 towards the end of our program so I would like
27:39 to thank you very much Stoy that you have been
27:43 able to share your own personal experience
27:45 with our viewers. Thank you. Many of the viewers
27:48 will have experienced back pain and will have
27:50 been pleased. And fortunately
27:51 I have been free of back pain for many years now.
27:53 And I can lift anything I can, I am better
27:57 now I was when I was 18.
27:58 Well, that's a wonderful testimony.
28:00 You know we are fearfully and wonderfully made
28:04 and if we will only keep good stewardship
28:08 of our bodies we can exist in very happy
28:13 and a very contended way.


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