Participants: Stoy Proctor, Allan Handysides
Series Code: WM
Program Code: WM000346
00:01 The following program presents principles
00:03 designed to promote good health 00:04 and is not intended to take the place of 00:08 personalized professional care. 00:09 The opinions and ideas expressed 00:10 are those of the speaker. 00:12 Viewers are encouraged to draw their 00:14 own conclusions about the 00:15 information presented. 00:36 Hello, my name is Allan Handysides 00:38 and it's a pleasure to be with you here 00:40 today on this program of Wonderfully Made. 00:42 We live in a very interesting world. 00:45 We live in a world where advertising 00:47 can make all sorts of claims and perhaps 00:51 one of the largest growing industries 00:53 is that for food supplements 00:56 and alternative types of medication. 00:59 I think as we considered this sometimes 01:02 we have difficulty in separating fact 01:04 from fiction. It's not always 01:07 easy to know what is truly 01:08 a remedy or maybe a snake oil panacea 01:13 that suppose to cure everything that may ail us. 01:17 Today I am very fortunate to have 01:19 with us here on our set Stoy Proctor 01:21 who is a nutritionist. He is actually the 01:24 chairman of the General Conference 01:26 Nutrition Council, he is an associate member 01:29 of the General Conference's 01:30 Health Ministries Department. 01:31 He is also an adjunct professor 01:33 at the Loma Linda School Public 01:35 Health and he is going to be discussing 01:37 with us some of these food supplements. 01:41 Stoy, it's a real privilege to be with you 01:44 and have you on the screen. 01:45 My pleasure being here. Thank you. 01:47 You know the Stoy has told that about 01:49 500 years ago Shen-Nung was 01:52 the emperor of China and he, 01:56 I believe was the gentleman who was responsible 02:00 for introducing herbal remedies 02:03 into Chinese medicine. 02:04 It said that he took over 365 different varieties 02:11 of herbs. One per day. 02:13 Probably one per day, 02:15 but one day he turned green and died. 02:19 What could have happened to him? 02:20 Unfortunately we don't know 02:22 which of those herbs, 02:24 was the toxic one and that is precisely 02:27 the dilemma that we are facing today 02:29 even though Chinese medicine is based on his, 02:33 biology. We don't know 02:36 what it was that turned him green 02:38 and today the question 02:40 is how do we separate, 02:42 what is good from what is bad? 02:47 So I am going to ask you 02:48 how do you tell the difference, Stoy? 02:50 Well, it's difficult, the US Food and Drug 02:55 Administration back in 1994 passed 02:59 the Supplement and Health Education Act 03:02 and they have defined some of these 03:05 terms such as; drugs and supplements 03:08 and a supplement basically is any vitamin, 03:12 mineral, amino acid or protein, 03:17 some type of plant enzymes, 03:20 herbs and what's interesting to be called 03:23 a food supplement, 03:24 they can even include organs of animals 03:28 like beef liver, beef spleen, 03:32 goats you know ears 03:34 or they can put all these kinds of supplements. 03:37 A few years ago I was visiting 03:39 a friend of mine then they were very excited 03:41 about his new supplement 03:42 and these people were total 03:44 vegetarian and I said well, 03:46 what's in this supplement 03:48 if doing such great things for you? 03:50 And He said, I don't know, 03:51 well, I said, give me the bottle, 03:52 let me read this, and I read bottle 03:53 and there was liver extract, 03:56 there was spleen extract from beef 04:00 and other animals and they were so shrugged 04:05 but you know that's a problem, 04:06 it can contain all these things 04:08 whereas a drug now, there is very specific. 04:13 A drug is can be some of the same substances, 04:16 some synthetic but it must be used 04:20 for medicinal purpose or medical purposes, 04:22 and what's the difference is that 04:25 a drug must undergo extensive testing 04:28 and they must prove beyond 04:30 the reasonable goal that this drug is going 04:33 to be beneficial and not harmful. 04:34 And it undergoes certain reviews 04:40 by peers of specialist in that particular 04:44 area where as a food supplement does not 04:47 have to go through any these tests. 04:49 So we the consumers how do we find out about 04:57 a food supplement I mean what, 04:58 what guidance could you give to us 05:02 if we are going to be looking 05:04 at a food supplement and to say you know 05:06 how do we find out this is good 05:07 or this is not so good, 05:08 this maybe harmful? 05:10 Where do we get that information? 05:12 Now it's interesting and that's a good question, 05:15 you know, when you maybe given Cipro 05:18 or some of the antibiotics 05:20 or some of the drugs it was in the package 05:22 you will have a long list of things 05:25 it will do for you. 05:26 Some of the things that are been observed 05:28 in another people. None of this has 05:30 to be done with the supplement. 05:32 Now in 1994 when they passed this act, 05:35 they required although it isn't heavily enforced 05:38 but they required a product, 05:42 a food supplement product to contain 05:45 at least seven factors. 05:47 Number one; the active ingredient 05:50 must be identified, especially less Antoni 05:53 or Salt Primal somewhere it must be identified. 05:56 And number two, there must be, 05:59 they must tell you how many capsules 06:01 or how many teaspoons or how many milligrams 06:04 it must be, quality must be measured. 06:07 There must be a structure and function 06:11 claim on each of these products 06:13 and this is what's most interesting 06:15 and these products must say that 06:17 this product was not evaluated by the Food 06:20 and Drug Administration. Number two. 06:23 It has to say that on the product. 06:24 On the product, it suppose to not all do, 06:26 some do, some don't. 06:27 I also must say that this product is not intended 06:32 to diagnose or treat or cure the disease. 06:37 Now then why should I take it, 06:41 if it, it hasn't been evaluated by the FDA, 06:44 if it tells you it's not intended to cure 06:47 or to treat or to cure, 06:48 so there is a problem there 06:50 but anyway the Food and Drug 06:51 Administration does have some power 06:53 in that area. 06:54 Also, so as a consume you must, 06:57 you must look to find these seven qualification 07:00 I am got through all seven yet. 07:02 Also they must tell you if there is any 07:05 health claim on there. 07:07 They might be able to say on there that, 07:10 that this calcium supplement has been shown 07:14 to improve the bone, 07:16 strength of the bones 07:17 and maybe reduce the risk of osteoporosis. 07:20 They are allowed to make some claims 07:23 like they are providing there some 07:24 resource to back it up. 07:25 Now that's for a specific ingredient. 07:29 Yes, specific ingredient. 07:30 But that does not necessarily apply. 07:31 That's exactly right. 07:32 To the total package. No, no. 07:33 Is there other words they may write 07:35 on the benefits of say there is some iron 07:39 and it may say this is good 07:40 for an iron deficiency. Right. 07:42 But of course it could only be, 07:43 maybe only 1 milligram or a ½ milligram. 07:46 It may not be very much on there 07:47 but the FDA does have some jurisdiction 07:50 over that area. Another thing 07:51 is very important is that they should give you 07:54 the name and address and contact number 07:57 so you can ask for more information. 07:59 So if you find a product that meets 08:02 all this seven criteria it at least 08:04 it's gone a long way to give you 08:06 some information. It still doesn't tell you 08:09 what is really gonna do for you 08:11 and it still doesn't have to provide you 08:13 the scientific research to prove it 08:16 like a drug does. You know I have a friend 08:19 he told me that because we travel a lot, 08:21 he said to me I want to give you 08:23 this medication so I said, well, 08:25 what it is? He said, oh, 08:26 it's a Chinese medication, 08:28 I said, but what's in it? 08:29 He said I don't know it's called pao jiang 08:31 or something. So I looked at it 08:32 of course it has only got Chinese letter 08:33 on this I couldn't read what it is. 08:35 A little, a little vial of dark brown 08:39 things it smells to me is that got some liquors 08:41 in it but I really can't tell what's in that. 08:44 This is what you mean by being able to 08:46 at least identify what it is 08:49 and even identify who is manufacturing it. 08:51 I can't even tell from looking at this 08:53 who is manufacturing it so. 08:54 But see if it was manufactured 08:56 and sold in United States. 08:57 They would have to put it in English, 08:59 not just Chinese. So that's one 09:03 interesting, advantage 09:04 we have in the United States. 09:06 Are there any other steps that are important 09:08 for these manufacturers for instance, 09:10 let's say I decided that 09:11 I wanted sell a peppermint extract. 09:16 And that it was very good for burping or it 09:19 was good for gases. 09:20 Could I go around to manufacture 09:23 this stuff put it on the market, 09:25 put my address on their, 09:26 put the ingredients in that, 09:29 do I have to do any registration or 09:30 am I just free to do that? 09:32 Well, you are supposed to register the product 09:35 if it's a new product that it's not 09:38 on the market since 1994. 09:40 There is only one problem, 09:42 nobody has a list of the products 09:45 they are on the market in 1994. 09:48 The botanical or the supplement companies 09:51 don't have the FDA, 09:52 doesn't have it. So it's quite difficult 09:56 and I suppose that's why the Food and Drug 09:58 Administration say you are going to have 10:00 to approve that and so if there ever 10:02 caught on it and examine the FDA 10:05 may say to them, wait just a minute, 10:08 this is a new product 10:09 and you have not registered it. 10:10 So there is at least, It's on the books, 10:13 but it's because the Food and Drug 10:16 Administration has, their under staffed, 10:18 they are not able to check out 10:20 all these claims. It is really on the, 10:23 it's responsibility of the maker 10:26 and the distributor to proof 10:28 that this product will do what it says. 10:31 But most of these studies we don't have 10:35 that kind of information. 10:36 You know I read a very interesting report 10:39 it was actually one of the Canadian journals 10:42 that I read it and they talked about 10:44 the products that they had looked at. 10:46 They said that they examine 20 products 10:49 I believe. Ginseng was one of the products 10:52 they we were looking at. 10:53 And they said that they could find 10:55 the several things, one that the amount of 10:57 ginseng in each product varied that's between 11:01 the different makers. 11:02 But also within the actual one 11:05 may cut the quantity varied. 11:07 They also found that they were quantities 11:09 of lead and mercury of varying amounts 11:12 in the different products and then they found 11:15 that there maybe a many different kinds of 11:17 additives or what possibly could be called 11:21 pollutants if you were expecting a pure compound 11:24 in these preparations. Is there some kind of 11:28 regulation about the standards 11:31 and the quantities of these preparations? 11:34 Unfortunately no, and that's a problem 11:36 with some of the herbs that there are 11:38 several problems. Number one; 11:39 the dosage or the amount in a protein in that, 11:43 let's say a teaspoon or 10 milligrams 11:45 is the active ingredient is not always 11:48 the same but remember they should identify 11:50 what the active ingredient is and they should 11:52 say that there are so many capsules 11:54 in the little bottle or package or whatever. 11:57 But they don't have to say how much of the 12:00 active ingredient is in there and so that's the 12:03 problem and not only the Canadian study 12:05 but good house keeping, 12:07 University of Arkansas 12:08 I have in my notes here of several companies 12:10 that there are reports of research 12:13 where they have examine these products 12:14 and there are different amounts. 12:16 Now there are few companies 12:18 that do have standardized dosages 12:20 and so you can counter 12:22 and what's nice about a few companies. 12:24 They have some little research out there 12:27 and let's say in the research they gave people 12:31 the Valerian, let's say that's something 12:33 that suppose to help people sleep better 12:35 at night like for insomnia and they may say well, 12:39 so many milligrams of this per capsule 12:41 were used in the study and so they will put on 12:44 their box, on their package. 12:46 The same amount of milligrams 12:48 are to be taken you know before bedtime 12:51 or something like that. 12:52 So there are some companies will do that. 12:53 Many companies do not and so there is 12:55 just no standardization. 12:57 Another problem is as you've mentioned 12:59 the purity is not also required 13:02 where we have and when we have a drug 13:05 you know you can, 13:06 you know like aspirin for instance. 13:08 You know exactly how much of the active 13:10 ingredients in aspirin or some of the other 13:12 drugs because there are strictly ready, 13:14 they are strictly regulated. 13:15 But when it comes to the supplement 13:18 or the purity is not regulated, 13:20 is not required and so we may have 13:23 different amounts, some don't have any 13:25 for instance they found that some the weight 13:28 control or weight management products 13:31 contain amphetamines that's a highly 13:34 stimulating affect. They will find in others 13:37 contain some other drug like caffeine 13:40 and you know it makes you think you are 13:43 being picked up and got a lot of energy with, 13:44 the supplement industries they talks 13:46 a lot about energy you know this will give you 13:48 lot of energy. Well, sometimes 13:50 this energy is coming from caffeine 13:51 or some other stimulant. 13:52 So that's at least two problems in the area 13:56 and of course another problem is that 14:01 then it's unlike the drug area 14:04 if the company that manufactures a product 14:07 if they get several complains about people 14:10 dying or if people got heart attack 14:13 or if they got liver toxicity, 14:16 liver malfunction they don't have 14:18 to report that, where as a drug company does. 14:21 You know I really want to be sure that 14:23 our viewers don't get the idea 14:26 that we think that drug companies 14:27 are just fine and that manufactures 14:30 or food supplements are just wrong. 14:32 Oh! No wrong. 14:34 That would be a very gross misconception, 14:35 you have some, you have some, 14:36 for instance think about you know 14:37 we have just seen the Vioxx, right, 14:39 has been withdrawn from the market. 14:41 Now Vioxx has been known for about 2 years 14:45 to be associated with some problems 14:48 but those problems are being kind 14:49 of kept under wraps. 14:51 Eventually when it became obvious 14:53 to the manufacture that become concern 14:56 and so Merck then withdraws it's product. 14:58 Celebrex at the present time is under scrutiny 15:01 because it belongs to same family 15:03 of Cox-2 inhibitors that the Vioxx does. 15:08 Is there any mechanism or any requirement 15:12 that side effects, adverse reactions people 15:17 that maybe die or if there is some 15:20 type of problem that is recurring with 15:24 a given product? Is there some requirement that, 15:26 that be reported to an agency that control? 15:31 No, and now we have a recent on the other side 15:35 of the coin here we have Ephedra which 15:37 is the dietary supplement that suppose you know 15:40 have some abstracts. Stimulatory effect and even 15:43 after they recommended that would be pulled off 15:46 the market it was still available. 15:47 But the difference between a 15:49 supplementary drug enlisting my experience 15:52 now that under, that those drugs 15:55 underwent a lot of study. 15:57 Now maybe not enough study because 16:00 the FDA has been force to bring these 16:03 new drugs, pain killers 16:04 and all kinds of drug out in the market, 16:06 maybe before the time but remember 16:09 this supplement industry is suppose 16:11 to have research to back up their claims 16:13 or back up why they are selling, 16:14 why people are buying them but sell them 16:17 are they require to all the person can do 16:20 if they have complaints is reported to their 16:22 medical caretaker and that care taker 16:24 will call the FDA and if they have enough 16:27 complaints then the FDA may turn around 16:30 and say alright you must, 16:31 let me see your result, 16:33 let me see your research to prove that 16:35 this is the weight control object 16:37 or it just stamina or it helps you sleep 16:39 or whatever. But the requirements 16:42 are very loose and the reason is 16:46 and it's a same way I am trying to say 16:48 but the supplement companies as well as 16:51 drug companies both have powerful lobbies 16:55 that influence the senators 16:57 that make the law. Now I am interested 16:59 that you talk about the food supplement 17:01 companies and you talk about the drug companies 17:04 as though they are two separate entities 17:06 but it's well known is that the manufactures 17:10 of many of the supplements 17:11 are the same companies that are manufacturing 17:14 regular pharmaceutical which we are call 17:16 them drugs. 17:17 And some of the drugs are herbs, 17:19 are natural products of the earth. 17:21 And, but those companies have two sets 17:23 of rules they sort of almost schizophrenic 17:26 there or have a split personality. 17:29 When they complain with FDA regulations 17:32 and on the other side they are getting away 17:34 with doing things that they don't require 17:36 all the research, all the money that 17:38 goes into development of the product, 17:40 and yet that the same companies, 17:41 so really what seem to me that there isn't a 17:44 great deal of moral difference between 17:48 a drug producer and the supplement producer 17:50 in many of this situation would you agree 17:52 with that or do have their. Yeah, 17:54 I think morally that would be right 17:55 but I think the drug companies halved 17:57 that DFD has more power to enforce 18:00 the law of the research and so on to prove that 18:05 they have more merit than placebo 18:08 for instance. Now you know 18:09 we've talked about then 18:11 what we are saying here is that the policy 18:14 or the policing of the validity of this agent 18:18 is the responsibility of the manufacturer. 18:21 Now I don't know of any industry 18:24 I mean we have gone through 18:25 turmoil in the last 4, 5 years is industry 18:28 has been seen not to be able to control 18:31 regulate it self. That's right. 18:33 And yet here we are having 18:36 a product that are, people are taking them 18:38 and we are expecting those companies 18:41 that manufacture them to actually be monitoring 18:44 and regulating themselves. 18:46 What advice would you give to a consumer 18:49 as to how that consumer can look at the claims 18:55 that are made of certain products 18:57 and ascertain for themselves as whether 18:59 a product has value or not because 19:01 there maybe very good products out there. 19:03 Well, many of the food supplements 19:05 are good products. Many of these things 19:08 are helpful you know vitamins are certainly 19:11 helpful and some of the, 19:13 some of the herbs have some problems 19:15 and may be we will have just a few minutes 19:17 to all go over maybe some of those herbs 19:20 have some scientific basis 19:21 for their efficacy. But really 19:24 the consumer is in dilemma. 19:26 I personally would, would use the internet, 19:29 I would go to a national database 19:32 like the National Library of Medicine 19:35 and check in there public PubMed. 19:38 PubMed is something you just type into your, 19:41 to search engine and you will get 19:44 all and then once you get into PubMed 19:47 then they will ask you for your topic 19:49 so you put valerian, sauce pepper asternia 19:51 or whatever you want put in there 19:53 and then they will give you all the studies 19:55 that have been done scientific studies 19:57 pre-reviewed that have been in there. 19:58 Now some of things I think here we have 20:01 got some experience you try this on a product. 20:03 Just last week, just last week, 20:05 I decided that I wanted to look up 20:08 glyconutrients. Now glyconutrients 20:11 are a newer product that is being promoted by a 20:15 certain company I am not going to mention 20:17 the name of the company nor the product. 20:18 But I thought well, the claims are that 20:21 there is an enormous amount of body 20:24 of research to support this so I thought well, 20:26 I would like to read that research 20:28 because I have actually 20:29 I have a niece who said to me 20:31 what do you think of this product 20:33 and I said, well, 20:34 I don't know much about it. 20:35 And she said that, 20:36 have you read the research? 20:37 And you know it was important for me 20:38 to read the research so I went to PubMed 20:41 and I got two articles, two articles. 20:45 One was the effective glyconutrients 20:47 on white blood cells in a test tube, 20:50 not in the body, not in the overall, 20:52 not in humans, not in humans, 20:53 not in even in rats but it was in the test tube 20:56 so I looked this. The other one was 20:58 someone along the same lines. 21:00 isolated singularity I thought well, 21:02 surely this is not capable of giving me 21:07 all the research so I went to some journals, 21:09 I went to the New England Journal of Medicine 21:11 which is one of the premier journals, 21:14 nothing it said you have found zero comment. 21:18 So then I thought alright well, 21:19 I better go to a nutrient journal 21:20 I went to the general nutrition, 21:21 zero results I thought maybe 21:24 this is animal physiology 21:26 so I went to animal physiology, 21:28 cellular physiology, zero written, 21:30 I thought maybe it's plant physiology 21:32 so I went to a plant physiology journal, 21:33 zero written. I went then, 21:36 instead of that I thought well, 21:37 maybe it's influencing stem cell 21:39 they have talked about how it may 21:41 empowers stem cell. 21:42 I went to the journal stem cell research, 21:44 zero written so in other words, 21:47 you are saying go to PubMed 21:48 I find these two isolated articles 21:50 but the people who are promoting this, 21:51 telling me that's a mountain that should 21:54 tell you something. 21:55 In fact, the same product now I am aware 21:57 what product it says I call the company 22:02 and I says you know, you say you have 22:03 scientific research to back up your claims 22:05 I would like some of them I have received 22:08 a stake of literature a half inch thick. 22:09 I read through there and these consensuses 22:13 of scientists agree, scientists agree 22:15 but I found no report in a science, 22:20 Reputable Scientific Journals. 22:22 In the literature they sent me 22:24 so I think this is one thing we can do 22:26 but at least that's why we've got to do, 22:28 we've got try out, 22:29 try to find out what the active ingredient is, 22:31 find out what the health claim and find out 22:33 from a reputable source like PubMed. 22:36 If there is any research to back it up. 22:38 So self-praise is no recommendation. 22:42 And testimonial, testimonies are something 22:45 that are use very often to promote 22:47 a product, you know, 22:48 and they gets some big names like you know 22:50 big scientist or some famous doctor 22:52 or some one like that. 22:54 But really if it's not their field 22:56 of study and labor, and study and interest 22:59 it really means nothing and one person you know 23:04 seeming to benefit from a product, 23:07 it doesn't mean that is going to help 23:09 the next person. You need a larger group 23:12 of people so that's another thing 23:14 you want to see, if you want to see 23:16 if this is done on a large number of people 23:18 and reported more than one in repeated 23:21 and verified more than one, 23:23 more than one study. 23:24 Its like line is pulling came out 23:26 with the mega dose of vitamin C 23:28 for everything it ails you and for a while 23:31 there people were taking these grossly 23:34 exaggerated doses of vitamin C, 23:36 not the vitamin C is a bad thing. 23:38 Would you say Stoy that there is room 23:40 for taking a regular supplement of any kind? 23:42 I would if some reason you are traveling 23:46 overseas like I know that you do, 23:48 I would take a regular supplement 23:50 not a mega dose of any other vitamins 23:52 or minerals but a regular supplement 23:54 because you can't always eat the type of food 23:56 you want and you can always eat 23:58 when you want it so maybe in some cases, 24:00 maybe a case where a child won't eat, 24:03 you can't get him to eat, 24:05 you might want to get him a supplement, 24:06 maybe during pregnancy, 24:07 the woman would take a supplement, 24:09 maybe if they are older folks 24:12 they are not assimilating their vitamin B12 24:15 even though they are taking vitamin B12 24:18 supplement are source of food well I say, 24:20 they may want to take some. 24:22 So there is a exceptional cases 24:23 but I think for the most part we should get 24:26 our vitamins and our minerals, 24:27 our protein, our carbohydrates and foods. 24:31 In fact, if you spend the money, 24:33 at this particular product 24:34 we are looking at it was a hundred 24:35 and some dollar for one 24:36 bottle of that or bottle of this $160 24:39 for that I mean if you took say the $60 24:43 that you are spending on this food supplements 24:46 and you put it into saying yes, 24:48 I think we will buy the blueberries 24:50 even though they are expensive, yes, 24:51 let's get the raspberries even though 24:53 they are little bit more expensive 24:55 then we could afford and I think that people 24:57 who spent maybe $15 or $20 a week more on their 25:02 grocery bill would probably 25:04 get a much healthier approach unnecessarily 25:07 looking for. Another problem 25:09 we have Allan is that, 25:11 that since there has not been a lot of research 25:14 done on this supplements we don't know 25:16 what the interaction is with other supplements, 25:19 the interaction is with other drugs, 25:22 the interaction is with other foods. 25:25 Well, of course. We don't know 25:26 what those are, we know some 25:27 of those interactions are problem 25:29 like grape fruit food use. Yeah. 25:31 It should leave and cholesterol 25:34 lowering medication, that's right, 25:35 and there are some other interaction. 25:37 But even worse for surgery, 25:38 when I was doing surgery I used to be very, 25:40 very concern that I had a complete list 25:42 of everything that patient was taking 25:44 because it's dreadful to get in there, 25:46 cut open the patient's abdomen say 25:49 we are operating in the pelvis and you got this 25:51 constant oozes and you're saying 25:53 how do you stop this oozing only to find out 25:56 later that although when you got to be 25:58 on a medication they said, 25:59 no, they have been taking some product, 26:02 that increase blood circulation. 26:04 Now we have a couple of minutes left 26:06 here Stoy that. Are there are 26:07 some good point? There are some good points? 26:08 We need to talk about them, 26:09 why don't we talk about it, okay, 26:10 I mean I think that there is for instance 26:12 we've mentioned in another program about 26:15 Supramental for people have 26:16 prostatic hypertrophy. 26:18 I think that there is a fair amount of 26:19 evidence that that's a useful herb. 26:21 I think cranberry juice is very good, 26:25 not as a treatment but as a preventative 26:29 against urinary tract infections. 26:32 Many of mild women who would have 26:33 repeated urinary tract infections, 26:35 I would encourage them to take cranberry juice 26:37 because I think there is a body of evidence 26:40 that shows the cranberry juice is fairly successful. 26:42 And Garlic is one of those supplements 26:44 now that they have concentrated but garlic 26:46 in a regular part you know when you are 26:48 cooking yourself is one thing but the 26:51 Cleveland Clinic, cancer clinic is saying 26:53 you shouldn't be taking garlic 26:54 if you are talking certain 26:56 other medication for cancer 26:57 and so there is some contraindication 26:59 to some of these supplements 27:01 where is in the food itself probably 27:04 since it's not any one ingredient 27:06 is concentrated. It's not gonna 27:09 give you problem. I think there are some 27:11 others besides sarsaparilla. 27:12 Ginger is good at one. 27:14 Ginger! Well the pregnant women 27:15 should not take ginger, that's right, 27:17 you know there is a need to approach 27:19 this subject in a very definitive way, 27:23 in a way that. Saint John's Wort, 27:25 St. John's Wort again ST. John's Wort 27:29 has been tested in many different situations. 27:31 It doesn't work for everybody. 27:33 It might work for some. 27:34 It might work for some. 27:35 Now do we have time 27:37 to discuss some of the things? 27:39 that have been shown to be a real problem. 27:41 We really don't. We don't. 27:42 We really don't have time but 27:43 what we do have time to do is to say 27:46 to our viewers that they should be 27:48 aware of what it is they are taking. 27:50 Stoy, I would like to thank you today 27:53 for being with us. My pleasure! 27:55 This is being interesting discussion. 27:56 And to our viewers I think that you may 27:59 have heard enough not to praise a particular 28:03 supplement nor to negate a particular supplement 28:06 but to realize that you need to be aware. 28:08 It's our sincere desire that you should 28:11 be aware and being good health. So enjoy. |
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