Participants: Yvonne Lewis (Host), Andre Blake, Cordell Thomas, David Massey
Series Code: UBR
Program Code: UBR000011
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00:01 Entertainment is big business filled with violence,
00:04 materialism and promiscuity... stay tuned to find out 00:08 how two guys are reclaiming 00:10 the Film Industry for Christ... 00:11 My name is Yvonne Lewis and you're watching 00:14 Urban Report... 00:37 Hello and welcome to Urban Report... 00:40 today my guests are David Massey and Andre Blake 00:43 partners in Urban Christian Entertainment... 00:47 Welcome David and Andre... 00:49 Welcome... Hey Yvonne, how are you? 00:52 Oh great... it's so good to have you guys here 00:54 I finally get to meet you... 00:56 we e-mailed back and forth 00:58 and I've never seen you... 00:59 and I finally get to see you today... 01:01 it's great to match your face to the voice 01:03 Likewise... same here... same here... 01:05 Yeah, we're just happy to be a guest on Urban Report... 01:08 Yes, yes, yeah... because we've talked but we've never met... 01:13 Tell me, first of all, what is Urban Christian Entertainment 01:18 tell us what that is... 01:19 Urban Christian Entertainment is a professional 01:22 Production Company and we... kind of came up with the idea... 01:26 David is in the Film Industry on a day-to-day basis... 01:30 and I'm kind of on the periphery 01:32 and we met some years ago and came up with the idea 01:35 that we wanted to put a product out there that... 01:39 really we can be proud of... 01:40 when you look at many of the films that are 01:43 being made today and over the last several years 01:47 some of the ways that they were portraying the youth 01:51 and many of the different situations... 01:53 the various decisions that they were making... 01:56 we weren't necessarily all that happy with... 01:58 while some of it may be realistic... 02:00 there are other choices that they can make... 02:03 and there are other consequences 02:06 good and bad 02:07 that can come about as a result of that... 02:08 so that's how it kind of came about... 02:10 And we really wanted, Yvonne, to supply the youth 02:14 our audience with alternative movie choices... 02:17 that would bring them closer to God... 02:19 and at the same time achieve personal growth... 02:23 so our movies offer... spiritual solutions 02:26 through the following methods of empowerment... 02:29 we want to engage our youth to develop 02:31 Christian behavior and conduct, 02:34 we want to inspire the youth 02:36 to reach their fullest potential... 02:38 by demonstrating responsibilities 02:40 and duties to themselves their family... 02:42 and the Community... and we also wanted to offer 02:45 unsaved youth... moral choices that would 02:47 bring them closer to God... 02:48 This is so good... and it's so important... 02:51 I've seen your films and I see 02:55 that you are doing just that... all the goals that you 02:58 are talking about... you're doing just that... 03:01 and it's so... it's so great because like 03:03 you were saying Andre... while these scenes that we see 03:07 might be realistic... we want to offer them 03:09 better alternatives as you were saying David... 03:12 we want to give them something better... 03:15 something different and yet use the medium 03:18 of the movies... I mean, why not use films... 03:21 people are looking for Christian entertainment... 03:25 and so... and movies that... films that inspire... 03:29 not just entertain but inspire as well... 03:33 so that is really, really good, let me switch gears a little bit 03:37 and find out a little bit more about you guys 03:39 Andre just said that 03:42 David is in the Film Industry... 03:44 tell us David... what do you do in the Film Industry... 03:46 Well, for the past 15 to 20 years, 03:50 I have produced documentaries and short films 03:54 and worked on commercials... 03:56 I have shot 2 documentaries in Africa... 03:59 one... I shot in Ghana on the Women's Movement in Africa 04:03 and I'm a product of Film School... 04:06 The America Film Institute years ago... 04:09 and I have a short film entitled "The Last Breeze of Summer" 04:12 that was nominated for an Academy Award... 04:14 in the Live Action Shot Category... 04:18 Wow! congratulations... 04:20 Andre has been a little... when he says peripheral... 04:24 Andre has some credits to his name also... 04:27 Andre has worked at Disney... in Marketing for what... 04:32 about 15 years? 04:33 Ten years in the Finance Accounting Department doing... 04:37 supporting some of the marketing ventures 04:39 and what have you... so, I've always kind of 04:42 had my hands close to Film... but David is the real expert so 04:48 See, when we call them "Suits" because he has the "Suit" 04:52 He has the suits... yeah... I like it... I like it... 04:56 and so you guys... how did you hook up... 04:59 how did you join ventures? 05:01 We'll give you the short version but we have family ties... 05:05 but we ended up going to the same Church... 05:09 and found out... about our family ties... 05:12 and then we started talking... 05:15 and as our interests kind of became known... 05:18 we just drew closer together 05:20 not only in terms of our interests but as friends also... 05:24 so, it's been about 12 years since we met... 05:29 And, you know, we are parents also... 05:31 and so... as we were having these discussions 05:34 after Church about the lack of material out there, 05:39 for our Youth to watch... we just said, 05:42 "You know what... we have the skill set... 05:45 why keep complaining about it, 05:46 let's do something about it... 05:48 and so... we tried our first hand at a short film 05:51 called, "Keeping the Sabbath" and it was about a 05:55 High School Basketball player, whose game 05:59 happens to end up on the Sabbath... 06:01 and it's a Championship Game... 06:03 he plays on the summer league 06:05 so most of the games were on Sunday and Monday... 06:08 but the Championship Game had to be moved to 06:11 the Sabbath... and that was our first venture 06:15 and after that... we decided... and we came up 06:18 with some other topics always trying to address 06:21 what Youth are going through... 06:23 and some of the issues that they are confronting... 06:25 and that's when we came up with four other titles... 06:28 Higher Note... Taking A Stand... 06:30 The Spiritual Divide... and Thing for the Bling... 06:34 You know what's so great is that you guys 06:37 have taken your gifts at what you do for a living 06:40 and you are really taking those same gifts 06:45 and using them for the Lord, and that's is just... 06:47 that's so wonderful because there's such a need 06:50 for what you're doing... 06:51 there's such a need for really good quality 06:54 entertainment... and films that inspire... 06:58 tell us a little bit about the themes of each of these movies 07:01 you just talked a little bit about keeping the Sabbath... 07:04 what is "The Spiritual Divide" about? 07:08 Well, our protagonist is Jenny Harris 07:13 she lost her husband due to a sudden heart attack 07:16 and she becomes financially disadvantaged... 07:19 and so... consequently... she's forced to relocate 07:23 to Los Angeles... with her sister... 07:26 and she's a single mother now... she has a young daughter 07:31 and a young son... and her sister also is 07:36 married to a doctor or a lawyer 07:39 and she also has two children 07:43 and so the kids are around the same age... 07:46 but the family... when they move in with the sister 07:49 you find out that the one sister has... 07:54 what's the best word to use... backslidden a little bit... 07:57 and so we really set up a situation where 08:02 Jenny who raised her children in a Christian environment, 08:06 she wasn't really prepared for the head-on collision 08:10 when the secular world and the Christian world collide... 08:14 Hmmm... Hmmm... and so, we kind of take the 08:16 two families... and we mirror through 08:19 some of the scenarios... how the Christian families 08:22 handle some of the dilemmas and issues that they run into... 08:26 and how the family... let's just say... 08:29 that's not going to Church on a regular basis 08:31 or does not have that relationship with God... 08:34 how they handle the situations, that is so good... 08:38 again it's a situation that... where people can 08:43 kind of see themselves... and that's really, really important 08:48 and that's what I noticed... in your films... 08:50 you set up... kind of a conflict-resolution-type deal 08:55 and that's so good... because you show... 08:58 just how people can 08:59 find a way out as well... 09:01 and another thing that you have that's great 09:03 you have the Study Guides that accompany your films... 09:07 so that... if Churches and Youth groups want to 09:10 use these films... as jumping-off places 09:14 for dialogue... they can do that... 09:16 tell us about the Study Guides 09:17 and how that came to be... 09:19 Andre... tell us about that... 09:20 So, one of the first things that we noticed 09:24 as we were doing our films... was that... 09:28 a lot of our Youth don't necessarily have 09:31 a lot of engaging dialogue with adults... 09:35 they have with other youth... and then when they do talk 09:38 to many of the adults... it's not necessarily a very 09:42 comfortable or very sharing-type situation... 09:47 so, we felt that we needed 09:49 some type of a catalyst and so the Study Guide 09:52 can be broken into four different parts... 09:54 four different lessons if you will... 09:57 and so... the first lesson is really 10:00 an attempt like a Film 101 10:02 where you go through and identify 10:04 some of the main characters... who's the protagonist, 10:06 who's the antagonist, what's the theme of the film... 10:10 so it kind of gets the audience... the youth grounded 10:14 in terms of the key elements of the film... 10:17 and then the second... the next two lessons... 10:19 two and three... really what we do is... 10:23 we highlight various scenes that bring about 10:26 certain themes... within the film... 10:29 and then we have discussion points... 10:31 questions as well as Biblical references... 10:33 for those scenes... and then... 10:36 the last section... which we call "e-skills" 10:39 and "e" stands for Evangelism, what we do is 10:43 we go out and we put other youth on film 10:47 after they've watched the film 10:49 or they've discussed the film... 10:51 and we get questions from them... 10:53 because we want realistic questions 10:55 from other youth... 10:56 because when many of our Church-attending youth 11:01 they're in School or various situations... 11:04 they're getting asked questions every day... 11:07 especially if they're comfortable 11:08 showing their faith... and so... when those questions 11:11 are posed... we leave it up to the student 11:14 to answer those questions in a very realistic way... 11:19 and that gives them the opportunity to really 11:21 try to hone their skills... and build their confidence 11:24 in terms of what they really believe... 11:26 and so... those are the four sections of the Study Guide... 11:30 Wow! this is so... I'm loving this 11:33 because this is so important that our youth can 11:37 not only learn more about... 11:38 about the Lord and about just... 11:42 living the Christian life... it's like 11:44 "Practical Christianity" 11:45 so they can actually apply these things 11:48 but not only that... they can then share it... 11:51 so then they get involved in evangelism... 11:54 on a larger scale... and that is just so... 11:57 that is so important for our young people 11:59 to be able to... not just to know Jesus 12:01 for themselves... but then to share Jesus... 12:04 that is such a great thing... what are some of the 12:06 challenges that you guys face with what you're doing? 12:10 Well, I would say, right now, our biggest challenge is 12:14 really getting the word out there 12:16 and getting our brand out there, 12:19 not having the public view us as just a film company... 12:24 we really feel that we're offering tools... 12:27 Hmmm... we feel that we're offering 12:29 opportunity for... if you just take the family 12:32 setting... for parents and their 12:35 children to have dialogue... to discuss 12:38 many of the things... hopefully in a comfortable way 12:41 that many are facing... 12:43 and then, possibly come up with answers... 12:46 or at least be more comfortable 12:48 in looking for answers... and so, that's really 12:51 it's an experience that hopefully will 12:54 will kind of fold into the naturally flow of family life 12:57 and that's really what we want to get out there... 13:01 Yeah, we're trying to... we're trying to get it to 13:05 Youth Leaders... anybody who deals with the Youth 13:08 because we feel that these movies 13:11 with the Study Guides work on a number of... 13:15 in a number of venues... AY... Adventist Youth 13:18 we have one Church that's using it to actually 13:22 bring in... some of the Community Youth 13:26 who are not maybe going to Church on a regular basis 13:29 or have a relationship with the Lord, 13:30 and so they're actually having Movie Nights... 13:33 and then... using the Study Guide 13:36 to introduce Christ... to these Youth who are 13:41 who are in the Community and 13:43 or maybe be live around the Church 13:45 but maybe don't attend the Church... 13:47 Oh, that is great... that is great... 13:50 Thank you so much for being with us... 13:52 tell us quickly how can our people contact you 13:56 if they want your films to be shown in their Churches 14:00 how can they contact you... 14:01 Well, our website is UCEmoviesthatmatter. com 14:10 Great... So, that's 14:11 UCEmoviesthatmatter. com Great... thank you so much 14:15 may God bless you... we're going to be showing 14:17 your movies... your films on Dare to Dream... 14:20 so, we want our viewers to stay tuned... 14:23 know that we're going to be showing their movies 14:27 UCE movies on Dare to Dream, so watch the website 14:31 to find out when and where... Thank you again... 14:36 We are really blessed today 14:39 to also have with us 14:41 Cordell Thomas... the Host of "Take it to the Bank" 14:45 Come on up Cordell... come and join us... 14:48 So nice to have you... 14:50 It's good to be here... good to be here... 14:52 Cordell, you are taping... you just came from your taping 14:56 you're a busy man... I'd like to think so, yes, yes. 15:00 You just came from taping Take it to the Bank 15:02 your second season here... with Dare to Dream... 15:06 and one of the things I wanted to ask you about... 15:09 and you just talked about it today... 15:11 is that whole idea of the poverty industry... 15:15 and how... these larger institutions 15:19 take advantage of... 15:21 of the poor... 15:22 could you tell us a bit about that 15:25 and then I'll talk to you some more... 15:27 but just... tell us a bit about 15:28 how the poor are taken advantage of 15:31 by these larger industries... 15:33 It's interesting... the variety of different ways 15:35 you would consider that our institutions 15:37 would look out for the poor in a more dramatic way 15:40 but they don't... we look at banks that 15:42 are looking more so at profitable customers 15:45 they are looking now... there's a recent article 15:48 that came out that said that... Banks are now targeting 15:50 individuals that have a 100,000 dollars 15:53 worth of investments and or assets with that Bank... 15:55 they think that they're more profitable 15:57 and they're looking at finding new ways 15:58 to charge customers that have lower Bank-account levels 16:05 in their accounts... so, you find that they're 16:07 trying to... they're businesses... 16:08 they are there to make money and they're looking 16:10 at different ways of finding ways to make money 16:12 and it doesn't seem fair... that they're looking at 16:15 those that are in poverty to make the money off of... 16:18 it's a large industry... 16:19 It is... one of the things that I noticed is like... 16:22 when I go to certain areas 16:24 of the Country... the Urban areas... 16:26 you can find a liquor store 16:28 on almost every corner, you know... pawn shops... 16:32 all of these different... Rent-a-Centers... 16:34 for furniture... and I just think that 16:37 the poor are taken advantage of, because they're poor... 16:41 what are some of the ideas that you have 16:46 about just changing your current circumstances... 16:50 how can you... you look at where you are... 16:53 how can you move from where you are... 16:55 to another level? How can you do it? 16:58 There are two ways... one... I ask people to do is... 17:00 change the way they think... Hmmm... 17:02 don't look at yourself 17:03 as a part of the Poverty Industry... 17:04 look at yourself as a "work in progress" 17:06 Okay... and then once you begin to think 17:08 of how God thinks of you as an individual... 17:11 then you begin to understand that if I look at 17:14 where I am currently... then I can develop a roadmap 17:16 to where I want to be... there was an article 17:18 that I shared a couple of times now... that talks about, 17:21 "Poverty is an Industry that lasts 17:23 over the span of generations" so if we don't stop that 17:26 right now... then it will last for several other generations... 17:31 Like a cycle of poverty... It's a cycle... yes it is... 17:33 Okay... so you change the way you think... 17:36 Hmmm... hmmm... and what does that mean exactly 17:38 to change the way I think... like... I mean... 17:41 how can I change the way I think... 17:42 I'm just... you know figuring it out myself... 17:44 No many people... that's a very good question 17:46 because it's not really theoretical 17:49 it's... if you change the way you perceive yourself 17:51 Ah... Look at yourself more as a gift 17:55 of God... God is looking at you as a special person 17:58 but then... it takes more than just thinking that I'm better... 18:02 it's says, "I'm a work in progress... " 18:03 so "work in progress" means that there are different steps 18:05 I have to take... to get through that roadmap 18:08 I say... if you have a destination, 18:10 then you want to start saving 500 dollars a year... 18:13 a 1,000 dollars a year, it means that you have to have 18:17 your budget in place... 18:19 assess where you're at from a debt standpoint... 18:21 and I hammer this home... 18:22 Hmmm... hmmm... if you don't have a budget 18:23 you really don't know where you're at... 18:25 and that means you don't know where you're going. 18:26 That is so true... you know... okay... 18:29 so a lot of people... including yours truly... 18:33 just kind of resist that whole concept of a budget 18:36 but if you don't have a budget, how do you know 18:39 what you have left... once you've paid your bills... 18:43 you don't even know... you're just kind of going flying 18:46 by the seat of your pants... so, you're saying 18:48 that one of the first things you really need to do... 18:50 is... do a budget... and you said... 18:53 I saw you on Take it to the Bank... 18:56 you also said that a budget is 18:59 your income minus your expenses equals your budget... 19:05 Correct? A budget is basically looking at 19:07 yes... I look at... exactly how much money I bring in 19:10 Hmmm... hmmm... I pay check order 19:12 or what the case may be on a monthly basis... 19:13 Hmmm... hmmm... then I look at... 19:14 how much money I spend on a monthly basis... 19:16 and the money that I have thereafter... 19:18 gives you an idea of where you're at... 19:20 and that is basically a budget... 19:22 I know where I'm at now, now and if I spend more... 19:25 and that's a major problem that people don't realize 19:28 is they're overspending and there are warning signs 19:30 it means that I'm overspending 19:33 I don't have money right now so I'll charge gas... 19:35 or I'll charge an expenditure to buy clothes for the kids... 19:39 Hmmm... and that shouldn't be the case 19:41 you are putting off payment of something now 19:43 because you don't have the funds to pay for it in cash... 19:46 So, that's a warning sign right there... 19:48 It's a warning sign... that when you're using your 19:50 credit card to buy food or gas 19:51 or whatever... Hmmm... hmmm... 19:53 that's a warning sign... 19:55 It's a warning sign... it tells you that there is a concern 19:58 and then secondarily... many people who are doing well, 20:01 don't carry or don't maintain budgets... 20:04 they wing it... because I know that I'm making 20:06 more than I'm spending... so, I don't need a budget... 20:10 Hmmm... hmmm... and then in the end... 20:12 the Bank will tell me how much I have... 20:14 Right... but... Banks make mistakes 20:16 more than people realize... Ahh... 20:18 so it is incumbent upon you... to make sure 20:20 you're reconciling your Bank accounts on a monthly basis 20:23 You know what... that is so true... 20:24 because... let me tell you a quick story... 20:26 you know... they have this organizer thing... 20:29 I'm not going to say... what or anything... 20:32 I won't say the brand... but... you get a 30-day trial... 20:36 and then they start charging you monthly... 20:39 well, I got one for me and one for a friend... 20:43 and they hit my account 20:47 several times in one month... 20:49 and I was horrified... because I'm always looking 20:51 on on-line banking all the time... 20:53 just to check and see... where I am... and all that... 20:56 they hit my account... over and over again... 20:59 and I called them and said, "You guys have charged me 21:01 300 or 400 dollars so far this month... 21:03 for this one thing... I'm supposed to get... 21:06 the payments are supposed to come out twice a month... 21:09 one for the first one... in the beginning of the month 21:11 and then... at the end of the month 21:13 they were hitting my account several times a month 21:15 and if I weren't monitoring that I would be there 21:18 writing checks with insufficient funds... 21:22 or using my card and getting embarrassed... 21:25 so, one thing that you must do is check that... 21:28 if you're online... doing online banking... 21:30 you have to check that account consistently 21:33 because the Banks will make mistakes... 21:35 Yes, they will... they will make mistakes... 21:38 What about those who are considered "poor" 21:40 and they have credit cards... what would you 21:43 what would you tell them to do 21:44 as far as using those credit cards is concerned? 21:47 Well, I'd say... the first thing I would do is 21:49 say... "You have credit cards, I would hope that 21:51 you don't have them all maxed out to the limits... " 21:53 that's number one... because what we see 21:56 is a cycle that you spend money on interest 21:59 and of course... if you miss a payment... 22:01 the interest rate goes up, Hmmm... 22:03 you're dealing with more on paying back that credit card 22:07 than you can pretty much handle... 22:08 if you have a budget you understand how much 22:10 money is going out to pay for credit card payments, 22:12 and then you can see... I'm paying 40 percent 22:15 of my total income on credit card bills 22:18 as opposed to having that money 22:20 to put towards the typical expenses that I would need... 22:23 It's really important to be proactive... isn't it... 22:26 and not reactive? You know, it's a difficulty 22:28 when you talk about under-served Communities... 22:30 and you talk to individuals in these Communities... 22:32 I have sat in Welfare Offices 22:34 I have sat in... doing my due diligence 22:36 to find out what's going on in those environments... 22:39 it's pretty horrendous how people are treated... 22:41 when they are under-served or perceived as poor... 22:44 Hmmm... hmmm... so we try to change the 22:45 labels of these individuals... you're not really 22:47 a "poor individual" you're just an individual 22:49 that's a work-in-progress... Hmmm... 22:51 if you will take a moment... 22:52 and assess where you're at now... 22:54 how much money do you have coming into your 22:57 household? And they'll find out that it's 22:59 actually a little bit more than they think it is... 23:01 if you talk with the kids... if you talk to the... 23:03 everyone that's in that household... 23:05 and then... let's take a look at how much is going out... 23:07 people don't realize how much is going out... 23:08 and once you understand that you can make adjustments 23:12 and cut back in this area... 23:14 many people have cell phones, 23:16 and land lines... 23:17 do you need both... ask yourself the question 23:20 because typically they're going to reach you 23:22 one way or the other... many people may not need cable 23:25 they may want to watch TV 23:28 instead of bringing that bill 23:29 they can watch it on hulu. com because they have many 23:31 different resources to do it... or 3abn. org 23:33 Yes... indeed... or D2Dnetwork. tv 23:36 or Dare to Dream network 23:38 and I think you can actually pull up those TV channels 23:40 on hulu Yes... Yes, indeed... 23:41 so, the context is... if we assess where we're at 23:44 and understand what we can to bring ourselves in line 23:47 with finances... and you can start by saving a $100 a month 23:51 and then... grow that... it's amazing what happens 23:55 when you're able to be successful one month 23:57 Hmmm... and two months... and I give you 23:59 the 21-day Program... if you can assess yourself 24:03 and maintain a process of managing a budget... 24:07 and watching every single expense you put out 24:11 I would ask you to do it for a week... 24:13 it's amazing where the money goes... 24:15 You don't even know right... I mean, sometimes you just don't 24:18 I noticed that... especially some of my relatives 24:25 that are younger mothers... they'll go to... 24:27 I won't say the name of the fast-food chain... 24:31 they'll go to a fast-food chain and buy "dinner" 24:35 for their kids... and spend way more 24:37 than they would have spent if they had just cooked the meal 24:39 That's correct... it just adds up... so quickly 24:42 And then you're dealing with a cycle though 24:44 because they would have to then grab a bus and go about 24:48 10 to 15 miles... for a location that has a store 24:55 or a chain that has healthy foods... 24:57 vegetables and fruits and those types of things... 24:59 Right... instead what we're finding 25:01 is that... they're walking down the streets 25:02 and sending their kids to a liquor store down the street 25:04 or whatever... or the "Stop-and-Go Mart" 25:07 or whatever they have... those Marts at the gas stations 25:10 and buying the things that are there... 25:11 and they are buying the foods that are not as healthy 25:13 and spending a lot more for those foods... 25:15 Yes... so they're in a difficult 25:17 situation... Yes... 25:18 but there are things that are happening right now 25:21 there's a non-profit in Chicago 25:22 that she's just developed a process where it's bringing 25:26 the quality foods to Communities on a bus... 25:29 Oh... so, we're having these major 25:31 make-overs of buses... that are carrying fresh fruits, 25:34 and vegetables into those Communities 25:36 and look for that... now.. because you will have access to 25:39 more healthy foods and the like very soon, I'm sure... 25:42 Oh, that's so important because some of these stores 25:45 if you go into the local stores... 25:47 the produce is terrible 25:49 I mean, it's not fresh... and we have, of course, 25:52 I have to say this about Dare to Dream... 25:54 we have "A Taste of Paradise" which deals with 25:58 raw-food preparation... and lots of produce 26:01 fresh fruits and vegetables but if you live 26:04 in the urban centers... a lot of times 26:07 you don't have access to those fresh fruits and vegetables 26:10 so, now, you're telling us... that there is a whole new... 26:13 a bus that's going to be coming through different 26:16 urban centers with fresh produce and good foods 26:19 and people will be able to access that... 26:22 That's correct... that is so great... 26:23 before we close... is there anything 26:26 that you would like to share with those that are 26:30 a work-in-progress... to let them know 26:32 the importance of giving... and giving in tithes and offerings 26:37 even if they only have 20 dollars 26:39 sharing that... giving that back to the Lord 26:42 giving... and also donating to 26:44 different Organizations such as Dare to Dream... 26:47 but not just Dare to Dream 26:48 but the importance of giving... 26:51 The importance of giving comes from a dramatic experience 26:53 I had with a more mature lady over in the Midwest... 26:57 Hmmm... hmmm... but what the story is 27:00 that she was on a fixed income, she had retired... 27:02 Hmmm... hmmm... and basically had figured 27:04 a way that she can continue her giving 27:06 on a yearly basis even on a fixed income... 27:08 and what she did was... 27:09 she chose to shut down areas of the house 27:11 that she doesn't use... during the winter time... 27:14 and save that money on the gas and use that to pay... 27:17 now the importance of tithe is not about you 27:21 or about God... it's about that giving... 27:24 the importance is... getting into the idea 27:27 of giving back... Hmmm... 27:29 it starts the mentality of saving 27:31 and making sure you're supporting those things 27:33 that God wants you to support 27:35 and those things that help His Kingdom succeed... 27:38 Wow... you know I can keep you here all day 27:41 but we've got to go... thank you so much 27:43 for being with us... I'm honored to be here... 27:44 and make sure you come back... I will... I promise... 27:47 Well, that's it... you've heard from our guests 27:51 from the Film Industry and Cordell Thomas... 27:55 with our money management, thank you so much 27:59 for being with us today... we are so blessed to have you... 28:02 You know... that it wouldn't be the same... 28:04 without you... |
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