Participants: Aaron Chnacy (Host), Steven Radford
Series Code: TNJ
Program Code: TNJ000046
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00:01 The following program discusses sensitive issues.
00:03 Parents are cautioned that some material 00:05 may be too candid for younger children. 00:08 Today we'll meet a gentleman with an amazing testimony 00:11 of what God has done in his life. 00:13 He's been on the program before but this time 00:15 he will be sharing the amazing prison ministry work 00:18 that he is doing. 00:20 Be sure to tune in to today's New Journey. 00:53 Welcome back to the New Journey on today's program, 00:55 we have with us Mr. Steven Radford. 00:58 You seen before on here share his testimony 01:00 but this time he's going to talk heavily about 01:02 the ministry that he is involved in. 01:04 Mr. Radford, we thank you for being on the program. 01:06 It's a pleasure to be here. All right. 01:08 Now there are some people 01:10 even though you have been on here previously, 01:12 that have not heard your testimony. 01:14 Briefly give some of your details 01:16 of where you from, a little bit of your background 01:19 and how you got lead up to what you're involved in now. 01:24 Before I do, let me offer a word of prayer. 01:27 Okay. 01:28 Father in heaven, we invite Your spirit 01:31 that heart in man hear from You and then You will be glorified. 01:35 Thank You for this time to share in Jesus' name, Amen. 01:39 Amen. I'm from Birmingham, Alabama. 01:42 Okay. 01:43 Very early on in my life, 01:45 I begin to drink and smoke 01:49 around the age of about 10 years old. 01:51 Okay. 01:53 And the rest of the drugs that I eventually doing 01:56 throughout my life was kind of like a progression. 01:59 It started with cigarettes and alcohol. 02:02 And it progressed to heroine. Okay. 02:06 Now in between that time, I believe that time 02:08 I was 14 years old, I was alcoholic 02:11 because I was drinking every day. 02:13 I had smoked my first marijuana joint at the age of 12. 02:17 And then I got involved 02:19 in peels and other things in that age. 02:22 I was able to finish high school 02:26 and then I when into the United States Air Force. 02:30 And served for two years. 02:34 I had an opportunity to get out early 02:36 and I took advantage of that opportunity 02:39 because I actually did not like people 02:40 telling me what to do. 02:42 Okay. 02:44 And at that point in my life, 02:46 I dint realize that God has a plan for us. 02:48 Okay. 02:49 But anyway, anyway after I got out of the military, 02:55 I came back to Birmingham. 02:56 Okay. 02:57 And I ran into some old elementary school friends mine 03:02 and to make a long story short, a person died that night. 03:07 And I was on the scene 03:10 at the time of the crime was committed 03:13 and I didn't do anything to prevent the crime 03:16 or did actually take the life and yet I was there. 03:20 Okay. 03:22 And I was questioned about it later on. 03:24 And when I was asked about it, I responded with 03:27 "I don't know" answer. 03:28 Yeah, okay. 03:30 Which is what, you know, 03:31 they do in a world they don't know. 03:32 Yeah. And that I don't know answer. 03:34 They had me to be arrested for murder and trial for murder 03:38 and eventually I received a life sentence. 03:40 Okay. 03:42 Now I have received a life sentence 03:43 in the state of Alabama with the possibility of parole. 03:45 Okay. 03:47 I ended up remaining in prison for 31 years. 03:52 During that time, initially I was angry at everyone. 03:58 Because I thought other people was the cause 04:00 of my situation, my problem. 04:01 Okay. 04:03 And yet, I realize I found out later on 04:05 that other people were in the problem that I was. 04:08 Yeah, okay. 04:10 After I've done 15 years in prison, 04:12 I was placed in a hole 04:14 because I was violating institutional rules. 04:17 Okay. 04:18 They use a hole or segregation as a form of punishment, 04:23 as a form of investigation, or as a form of they keep you 04:28 to have you ahead of the center state 04:29 where you cannot live with the general population. 04:31 Okay, and you kind of living by yourself. 04:33 Right. Isolation. 04:34 And I was on investigation. Okay. 04:37 And doing...Now this is after 04:38 I have been in prison for 15 years. 04:40 For 15 years, I was violating all the rules of prison. 04:43 I was moving prison contraband. 04:46 I had set up stores that had illegal gambling games 04:51 that were illegally selling whiskey, illegal, 04:53 you know, the whole nine yards. 04:55 And but now while I was in isolation, 05:01 I began to reflect on my life. 05:03 It was not actually turning out the way 05:05 that I thought it would. 05:08 I was here in a position that someone was telling me 05:10 when to eat, when to sleep, when I can take a shower. 05:13 You know, everything. What clothes I could wear, 05:16 everything about my life. 05:17 And here I am a person that doesn't like people 05:19 telling me what to do. 05:20 Okay. And that happened every day in your life. 05:22 Every day in my life now. 05:23 And my mom, and I thank God for her today. 05:28 When I was very young, early on 05:31 she tried to get me to accept Jesus. 05:34 Okay. And obviously I chose not to. 05:39 And I ended up, you know, in my situation. 05:41 Okay. 05:43 I mean, yet when I was back in their home, 05:45 I begin to think about there might be another way. 05:48 You know, there might be a better way. 05:50 And I thought about what my mom was telling me. 05:51 Well, I fortunate that when you in isolation, 05:54 they will let you have a Bible. 05:57 And I had a little red New Testament Bible. 06:00 Okay. 06:01 And so I determined that I want something different in my life 06:06 than what I have been getting. 06:08 Why not try Jesus? 06:10 Because I tried everything else. 06:11 Because you tried everything else, try Jesus okay. 06:13 And I didn't know any formal way of prayer 06:15 but yet, you know, I talk to God. 06:19 Okay. 06:20 And you know, it was really new for me to realize 06:26 that when we pray, God hears us and answers our prayer. 06:30 Amen. Sometimes immediately. 06:33 Well, in my particular situation, 06:34 God heard me and answered my prayer. 06:37 - Okay. - Right then. 06:39 Amen. 06:40 And because I asked for forgiveness, I told Him 06:42 that I wanted something new, I wanted to do thing 06:44 differently in my life. 06:46 Okay. 06:47 And I wanted to accept his son, 06:48 Jesus Christ as my Lord and Savior. 06:50 - Okay. - And I did. 06:52 That was in 1989. Okay. 06:55 Later on, I met the founders 06:58 of United Prison Ministry International. 07:00 Richard and Carolyn Bland. 07:02 And one of the first thing they said to me was 07:06 don't trust man and call for somebody 07:09 coming from the street does count unusual. 07:11 You know, and what they did was, 07:13 was back it up with what the Bible says. 07:17 You know, the Bible says us, it tells us 07:18 that in Jeremiah 17 to 5, "If we trust man will curse". 07:23 Yeah, okay. 07:24 And yet, it also give you some hope 07:26 until you but if you trust God, you can be blessed. 07:29 Praise the Lord. So I want to be blessed. 07:31 And so that just told me that I needed to trust God. 07:34 When I began to study what, you know, 07:36 in the Prison Ministry International 07:38 and I eventually was released from prison in 2006. 07:42 Okay, and that was after 31 years. 07:43 That was after 31 years. 07:44 Yeah. Okay. 07:46 And after I was released, I had an opportunity. 07:48 I was given an invitation to come and work 07:50 with United Prison Ministry International. 07:52 So prayerfully, you know, I prayed and asked God for, 07:56 you know, to leading in my life because I found out 07:58 when I make decisions, I make the wrong one. 08:00 Yeah, make the wrong one. 08:02 So I wanted God to lead 08:03 and He led me to accepting invitation 08:06 to work with United Prison Ministry International. 08:08 Okay. And I've been now since. 08:10 Now for those that aren't familiar 08:11 with UPMI or United Prison Ministries International, 08:14 give a brief background of what the ministry is involved in. 08:18 Well, United Prison Ministries International at this point 08:20 is going on 34 years of age. 08:23 Okay. 08:25 That's how long they've been around. 08:26 And they have they too full... 08:29 Well, It's been extended mission, 08:33 spiritual and social. 08:37 Spiritual in the sense that they want to share 08:40 the love of God with incarcerated people. 08:44 And also to share the gospel of Jesus Christ. 08:48 Social in the sense that they want to prepare 08:53 the man or woman to reenter their families as a new person. 08:58 Okay. 09:00 So that they can take the position 09:01 that God had designed from the very beginning 09:04 for man as a husband or a brother or a son him, 09:07 as a priest at home. 09:09 And, and also to direct to them ex or friend 09:16 or friend at churches. 09:17 Okay. 09:19 Because contrary to probably opinion 09:20 all the churches idea are not... 09:22 Yeah, not, not friendly in that manner. 09:24 Now UPMI is just starting a new program, 09:26 this is where we're going to spend a good amount of time. 09:28 As the training transitional program 09:30 or known as a re-entry program. 09:33 What led UPMI to begin this type of program? 09:36 And matter of fact, what is that type of program 09:38 for viewers that aren't aware of it? 09:40 Well training transition can be considered 09:43 also a halfway house. 09:45 Yet we know, it was over man not to 09:48 we're trying to remove 09:49 the thinking of being incarcerated. 09:53 And the things that we all full, 09:54 all full of training and transition. 09:57 We were led to it because we get numerous, 10:00 a lot of letters from people, men and women 10:03 all over the United States, writing us and saying to us 10:07 that I have nowhere to go. 10:10 Okay. I have no job. 10:13 And this, you know, impress me because being in prison, 10:16 you know, I understand that. 10:17 You know, if all your family members are no longer around, 10:21 when you go to prison and you do your time. 10:23 Then when you get out, you really have no support. 10:26 Yeah, no support system. Okay. 10:28 And then we got one letter that was really overwhelming. 10:31 There was one guy that was incarcerated 10:33 in the state of Texas. 10:35 Okay. 10:36 And he had been in prison for like 25 years. 10:39 He had become an Adventist in prison. 10:41 Okay. And got baptized. 10:45 And when he got ready to get out, 10:46 he tried to contact the churches 10:49 and actually no one responded to him. 10:53 And then he went a step further to contact the conference. 10:56 Okay. And still no one could respond. 11:00 As a matter of fact, he even wrote a letter 11:02 to the General Conference. 11:04 Okay. And no one respond. 11:07 And at UPIM, I ended up with that letter 11:10 and when we got it it was actually unopened. 11:13 I didn't bring it today because it's kind of... 11:16 but he basically was saying was that, 11:19 "Thank you, Seventh Day Adventist, 11:22 but no thank you because I understand the day 11:25 that you do not desire acts of friendness 11:29 to sit next to you in your church. 11:32 So as a result. I am going to go to another church. 11:38 A Baptist church where I can be accepted. 11:41 So that I can experience true love of God." 11:44 What he talks about in Matthew 25. 11:45 Oh yeah, oh yeah, most of that. 11:47 And that day I really just, you know, impressed me to, 11:50 wow, we are missing something here. 11:52 Yeah, yeah, yeah, that's exactly right. 11:54 Now the training transition program 11:56 is entitled The Remote House. 11:58 Yes. 11:59 Talk a little bit about how you got the name 12:01 based out of the cities of refuge in the Bible. 12:03 Give some details of that. 12:05 Well, in the book of Names, chapter 35. 12:07 Okay. 12:08 God told Moses to his establish six cities. 12:11 Yes. 12:13 Three on one side of the Jordan and three on the other. 12:17 One of those cities 12:18 were eventually established in Ramoth in Gilead. 12:22 Okay. 12:23 Now, and it was ordained of God. 12:25 Remote House is ordained of God. 12:28 Okay. 12:29 We were led to establish something 12:33 that was spiritually connected. 12:37 Remote House here that's our primary goal 12:40 is to associate or provide 12:43 spiritual growth, spiritual development, 12:47 so that, you know, the men and women 12:49 that do not have it can have an opportunity 12:52 to know Jesus as a Lord and Savior. 12:54 For those that do, that they can come to know him 12:57 better in the truth of his word. 12:59 It's interesting that Yahweh use the cities of refuge 13:03 as an example. 13:05 Because part of the aspects of the cities of refugees, 13:08 if a person was accused of murder, 13:11 they could run to the city of refuge 13:13 and receive a fair trial. 13:15 And it's interesting that some of the people 13:16 that you are dealing with are ex murderers, 13:19 they are ex convicts, things like that. 13:21 And it's like they can come to this house for refuge. 13:24 And to learn of God and to get fair treatment 13:26 and things like that. 13:27 Well, when you hear the word "refuge," 13:29 it actually means a place of safety. 13:32 Now in the Bible, the people 13:35 that were able to go to the city 13:36 were people that have that had committed murder unaware. 13:41 Yeah. That was right. 13:42 Or something happened that they didn't know 13:44 or they didn't intend to do. 13:45 Now, dealing with the word refuge, we wanted a place 13:49 where people could come, where they would not feel 13:54 they destroyers of society. 13:55 Okay. 13:57 So they would feel secure in their environs 13:59 and their environment. 14:00 Okay. And so they will feel safe. 14:02 So we, you know, God gave us Ramoth 14:06 as a house of refuge 14:08 Now there's three phases of ministry. 14:10 Three phase of ministry, and you said 14:12 this is the preventive phase, the redemptive phase, 14:14 and the post incarceration phase. 14:16 Talk about each one of these phases. 14:18 Well, initially, 14:21 Prison Ministry had been made to understand 14:24 what it entails is going into prisons 14:28 and worshipping with the men and women that are there, 14:32 sharing the gospel, you know, the word of God. 14:33 Okay. 14:35 And yet, God has shown us 14:36 that it extends a little farther than that. 14:39 There is the preventive phasing. 14:42 In other words, there are people that are living lives, 14:46 lives out there now 14:48 and the things that they are doing is 14:50 going to lead them to prison. 14:53 However, we understand today 14:55 that United Prison Ministry International 14:57 can do something to affect that group of people. 15:00 Okay. 15:01 Then of course, there's a redemptive state 15:03 where we are already, you know, primarily involved in. 15:06 And that's gone into the prisons. 15:08 As a matter of fact, we go to prisons 15:10 on Sabbath evening on Sabbath. 15:12 Okay. And then we go Mondays. 15:15 And then we'll go into a kind of jail now, 15:18 a home church on Sunday. 15:19 Okay. 15:21 And then of course, the men and women get out of prison. 15:25 And so that's post incarceration phase. 15:27 Now to prevent it, they're redemptive 15:30 in the post incarcerated phase so... 15:32 We want to be able to work and in a complete... 15:34 Yeah and the whole aspects of it. 15:36 That's good. 15:38 If somebody was to come 15:40 to your program to Remote House, 15:43 what kind of programs do you offer them 15:47 when they're reintegrating back into society? 15:49 Well, we have established a job training program. 15:55 We have a farm that's called Verbena Hills 16:01 and Verbena Hills farm is being used as, 16:05 as I said, a job training program 16:07 where men can come and they can work in a garden. 16:12 They can work with soil of the earth. 16:15 They can work with what God has given us 16:17 in order to be able to produce something. 16:20 Okay. You know. 16:23 Dirt is kind of like the blood, you know, 16:25 if the blood is not a good thing the body that... 16:28 Yeah. Exactly. 16:30 Plants get their blood from the dirt. 16:34 So if the soil is good and their produce can live 16:39 and, you know, and thrive. 16:41 Exactly, exactly. 16:43 So it's an opportunity for some discipline. 16:45 You know, it's an opportunity like I said, 16:48 to be able to work with your hands 16:50 and also completely organic farm. 16:52 Okay. From sea to fruit. 16:56 Okay. 16:57 There is no, no, GMO, no genetically modified organism. 17:02 You know, in a produce, we are producing this. 17:04 You know, it's designed for providing 17:08 locally grown produce for the community that we're in. 17:12 We eat it. 17:13 You know, the lettuce and the squash 17:15 and the zucchini and tomatoes that are grown. 17:18 So you all have all full garden there that people can work in. 17:21 We have a little over three acres there to work in. 17:23 Okay, praise the Lord. 17:25 And you know, and we also have an area where people can come 17:28 and just, you know, pick produce, 17:31 you know, at their leisure. 17:33 Now how could an inmate obtain residence at the Remote House? 17:38 Or if a family member viewing this program, they say, 17:42 "Okay, well, look I want to send my brother, 17:43 my sister, mother, father, 17:45 whoever it is, to this type of program." 17:48 How would they go about doing something like that? 17:49 Well, of course, right now there is a screening process. 17:52 Okay. 17:54 And an application has to be field out. 17:56 And we have an advisory board that reviews application. 18:01 And you know, accept or approve or decline an applicant. 18:05 Now we are not denying anyone opportunity to come. 18:09 We just had that process that, you know, 18:12 to men and women have to go through. 18:14 Okay, okay. 18:16 What is the capacity of the house that you hold? 18:19 We have the capacity right now is for 12 guests or residents. 18:25 Okay, okay. 18:26 So if somebody...if it was an inmate from another state, 18:29 like you mentioned about the gentleman from Texas. 18:32 If a person is not locked up, not incarcerated 18:35 in Verbena, Alabama or anywhere in Alabama, 18:38 can they obtain residence at your program 18:40 or do they have to be an inmate in the state? 18:43 Oh, absolutely. Okay. 18:45 You know, one at the time understand that 18:48 this is not a UPMI effort. 18:51 Okay. It's a world effort. 18:52 Praise the Lord. 18:53 The church, everybody has to be involved 18:56 in order for this to be able to come to the full fruition 18:59 that we decided God has shown us that it can be. 19:02 Okay. 19:03 You know you asked about the things that we offer. 19:06 Not only do we offer jobs or any, 19:08 you know, in the future we want to have councils. 19:10 Okay. 19:11 That will be able to, 19:13 to give classes in things like anger management. 19:17 Financial planning because you have a lot of men and women, 19:20 they get out of prison. 19:21 And they've been out for such a long period of time. 19:24 Some of them have problem of making simple decisions. 19:27 Yeah, that is true. 19:28 So we want to offer, you know, these type of tools. 19:31 Substance abuse counselors. 19:33 You know, we don't have counselor. 19:34 But, you know, we offer healthy eating habits. 19:38 You know, because when people get out of prison, 19:40 they don't have anything. 19:42 So we are providing a place to stay. 19:44 Okay. We're providing the foods. 19:47 We're providing a work environment. 19:50 And we also want him to provide emotional stability. 19:55 Praise the lord. 19:57 What have you noticed 19:58 in working with many people over years 20:01 that has caused people to be repeat offenders? 20:04 Is it maybe they don't have the support system? 20:08 What do you think it is with some people? 20:10 Well, their support system is a part of it 20:13 and it's very important. 20:14 Okay. 20:16 However in my life, 20:17 I found out that 20:19 when you accept Jesus Christ as your Lord and Savior, 20:21 there is a change that comes about. 20:25 You know, you're thinking is transform. 20:27 So God has to, one, you have to allow God 20:31 to change the way that you think. 20:33 Okay. 20:34 You know, because 20:35 as a Christian as a child of God, 20:37 you know, you don't think like, you know, people in the world. 20:40 And the second thing that God showed me is that 20:42 we must change our environment. 20:44 Okay. 20:46 A lot of people have a tendency of going back to the places 20:48 that they came from. 20:50 And when you do that, 20:52 then you pretty much get to same results. 20:54 Okay. 20:55 The recidivism rate, you know, 20:57 just for the state that I come from, Alabama, 20:58 it's like ten people get out of prison, seven return. 21:03 You know, not in my heart, that's not acceptable. 21:06 I know that God's not pleased with that number. 21:07 Oh yeah, oh yeah. 21:09 You know, there's a lot of work 21:10 that many Adventist churches can be doing. 21:12 Yes. And that many are doing. 21:14 Yes. 21:15 To help, to help the rate, maybe decrease some. 21:19 Now you are offering a CHOICES program. 21:22 Give a little details about this CHOICES program 21:25 and what it involves. 21:27 CHOICES is an acronym that stands for 21:30 Concern How Innocent Children Evolve Socially. 21:34 Okay. 21:35 It's the first phase of Prison Ministry, preventive phrase. 21:39 Okay. 21:40 What we want to do is to be able to, as matter of, fact 21:44 we've contacted the superintendent 21:46 in the area of schools where I come from. 21:49 Okay. 21:51 We are all offering our sales, men, women 21:54 that have been incarcerated. 21:55 And also other members of the community 21:58 to be able to go into the schools. 22:01 And not just schools, into the churches 22:04 and whatever institution that we were invited at no cost. 22:09 You know, it doesn't cost anything. 22:10 Nobody's paid anything. 22:12 We want to be able to share with our youth the experiences, 22:18 the pain, the agony, the hurt that we experience 22:23 behind or because as a result of the choices there we make 22:26 with a hope and a pray that it will enable them 22:30 or affect their lives 22:31 that they will make different choices in their own life. 22:34 For a, a ministry or just the average person 22:38 that has the burden of the souls, 22:41 people incarcerated, whatever it may be. 22:43 And they would like to start a program like 22:46 UPMI's Remote House. 22:48 What are some of the steps that a person would need to take 22:51 to do something like that? 22:53 I think the most important thing is that 22:55 we have a love for God. 22:57 Okay, yeah. 22:59 Now and also, we have to have a love of people. 23:02 Oh, yeah. 23:04 I've come to understand, particularly in my life 23:07 that there was a time that I was in love with things. 23:10 Yeah, okay. 23:12 And which we had to have a love for people. 23:13 And, you know, in prayer for to seek God 23:15 for whatever guidance that you need. 23:18 You know, the Bible actually says. it tells us that 23:20 if we lack wisdom, ask God. 23:22 He'll give it to us. He'll give it to us. 23:24 You know, there are avenues and there are partners 23:26 that they can contact to give them 23:28 all the necessary specific 23:30 or peculiar information in doing this. 23:33 We were bless and fortunate 23:34 that UPMI has already established. 23:37 And, you know, God gave us a house. 23:42 A family just awarded us some property in the house and... 23:46 You know, we knew that this was something 23:48 you know that God wanted us to be a part of. 23:50 Praise the Lord. 23:51 So it takes the love of God which is, 23:54 you know, very, very important. 23:56 Okay. And a love for people. 23:57 Okay. 23:59 And that desire, that passion, that compassion 24:02 that you have for people will guide you 24:05 or direct you to spirit of God. 24:07 Okay. 24:08 To where, you know, 24:09 what department you need to talk to 24:11 or of course... Or you contact us. 24:14 We can tell you more, you know, you in more detail. 24:18 Okay, what steps you take. 24:19 Yes. Okay. 24:20 Now I have to ask you this question. 24:22 After 31 years in prison, you come out 24:25 and you haven't gone back to prison. 24:28 What did you implement in your own life to, you know, 24:32 you spent most of your life incarcerated... 24:35 What things did you implement that kept you from going back 24:39 to being another statistic, 24:41 another black man going right back to the penitentiary? 24:44 What if you implement? 24:46 Remember I said earlier there were two things 24:48 that God showed me. 24:49 One was to allow him to change the way that we think. 24:54 And the second thing was to change my environment. 24:58 Okay. 24:59 You know, I realized that 25:01 there was no point in me going around 25:03 people that were drinking and smoking and using drugs. 25:06 And you know, things like that. 25:07 And they should because 25:09 when you don't always get same result. 25:12 So God showed me that I had a new family. 25:15 Okay. 25:16 And my family was into doing this. 25:17 So I went...You know, after I got out of prison, 25:20 I realized that I was an Adventist 25:23 because I believed that Christ is coming again. 25:26 Then I realized it allows a Seventh-day Adventist 25:29 because I believe in the Bible Sabbath day. 25:33 So I had to find a church that my family, 25:36 my church family that was serving God 25:39 according to the truth of his word. 25:41 And I did that, I found a church. 25:44 Okay. 25:45 And then I begin to, you know, with an urgency. 25:49 Okay. 25:50 To, to be involved in God's church. 25:53 Yeah, that very important. 25:55 You know, it's really time for us 25:57 to be about our father's business. 25:58 Exactly, exactly. 25:59 And so, you know, once I, 26:02 as I continue to allow God to change my mind, 26:04 my way of thinking, you know, 26:06 and allow Him to give me the strength to be able to say, 26:09 "No, I'm not going there and change my environment." 26:11 You know, I just try to surround myself 26:14 with people that, you know, 26:15 they serve with the love of Lord. 26:16 Yeah, a lot more positive people. 26:19 What I want to do, 26:20 I want to take me about 30, 45 seconds or so 26:22 and I want to look into the camera 26:24 and I want you to talk to those, 26:26 those individuals that are heading to the streets 26:28 or those that are in the streets, 26:30 the mother and the father 26:31 that have children that are out there. 26:33 Talk to them and give them some words of encouragement. 26:37 You know, I was once doing a ministry in a county jail 26:42 and after that I gave my testimony, 26:45 I think I gave my testimony. 26:47 One of the guys came up and shared with me. 26:50 He said, "Steve, if God will save you, 26:53 He can save anybody." 26:55 So what I want you to hear from that 26:58 is that be encouraged. 27:00 You know, whatever you tried 27:02 obviously has not given you the peace or prosperity 27:04 that you desire in life. 27:06 Try Jesus. He is a guarantee. 27:09 Oh yeah. Oh yeah. 27:11 You know, and even, even looking back on my life, 27:13 and I know for you looking back on your life, 27:17 you had the things where 27:18 maybe you were happy you know one point 27:20 but it never gave you that inner joy, that inner peace. 27:23 And even though things may not go 27:24 right for us every day of the week being, a Christian, 27:27 there's that peace, that inner joy 27:30 that you can't get from anywhere else except Jesus. 27:33 And I'm sure you can attest to that, right? 27:35 Because we have to remember that as ambassadors for Christ, 27:42 God desires of us to display the love 27:45 that we've come to know in Him through His son. 27:48 Okay, okay. 27:49 Folks, we'd like to thank you 27:51 for tuning into the New Journey. 27:53 Please make sure to tune in next week 27:55 for another exciting program of the New Journey. 27:58 Mr. Radford, Thank you so much. |
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