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00:10 >> Welcome back to the second hour of this marvelous program
00:14 core. The vandalism school we're talking with pastor the
00:17 Casper. We have brother Ethan here. And we also have aland
00:21 that are going to share wonderful things that God has
00:23 done in their learning process, but also in hands on. And also,
00:29 you know, the personal relationship with Jesus Christ,
00:33 emphasis of core of end of the school is just marvelous to
00:36 hear that so well.
00:39 >> We have D the director of Korea mental asylum and
00:44 you've been at it since 2018. Yeah. And a person who felt the
00:50 call to
00:52 launch into a school of evangelism in not knowing what
00:56 to do but leaning under the guidance of the Lloyd. And here
01:01 we are to celebrate the SEC accomplishments. We have to
01:05 graduates from in the core event, some school to testify
01:10 about the not only the program but also what it does to your
01:15 personal life. So pray samoyed for among yeah, Kuz right next
01:20 to me right here and even Carpenter. Thank you for
01:24 sticking with us. The second hour and also D. How do you
01:28 feel now that you have seen the Lord guiding and providing now
01:34 there are new plants in new material that you want to share
01:39 with the world. So please.
01:42 >> Spill the beans. But yeah, well, it's a I mean, it's
01:46 heartwarming just to see. And it's humbling to see what
01:49 God has done for over 50 young adults since we started 5 years
01:53 ago. It's been incredible and so are our burning conviction.
01:58 Is we want more people to have this experience. Yeah. And so
02:02 young people are still invited. We're just expanding the tent
02:04 stakes in the age range, too. Any 18 year-old adults and over
02:09 and so even mature adults can come. There's lodging, on-site
02:12 soul. We're on the same campus as Blue Mountain Academy.
02:15 And so there's dorm rooms accessible to us. The academy's
02:19 one side of the dorm. They have open rooms in the other side of
02:22 the dorm. So we use those and the evening cafeteria. And the
02:25 conference office is on the campus, our classrooms there,
02:28 our offices are there. And so it's expanded now to
02:32 international students. It's open to all adults. It's
02:36 shorter. So it's less of a time commitment that you have to
02:38 make. And it's also less expensive and soul. We're doing
02:42 what we can to make it as attractive and accessible as
02:44 possible. And then my wife and I have also taken a call to
02:48 Pastor 2 churches in Pennsylvania and soul. He's
02:51 also busy. So we will oversee the program, but day-to-day
02:54 operations. We have some great staff that are coming in that
02:56 will do that. So also do some teaching. So my wife will have
03:01 the students working in our churches will be around a lot.
03:04 So it's great, but it's a cool that we're expanding and
03:07 growing what's happening in Seoul, the same principles that
03:09 core teaches to students to take back to their local
03:13 churches. We will be using in churches in the Pennsylvania
03:16 Conference as pastors and will have students that come
03:20 alongside us in that journey, the man. So for those who want
03:24 who still want that extended disciple ship of 9 months that
03:28 we have been having for the first 5 years, it's still an
03:31 option. So you'll graduate just before Thanksgiving and starts
03:35 August 18. You graduate November 17, like a week before
03:38 Thanksgiving. And then you've got some time off until the new
03:42 year. And if you're interested in organic agriculture or or
03:45 medical missionary work or hygiene and cooking vegan
03:48 cooking, we're developing a partnership with Even Valley
03:50 Institute. So people can be able to have that opportunity
03:54 and we'll still disciple them from afar. So we'll call them
03:57 to meet with them once a week or every 2 weeks. Pray with
04:00 them, figure out what's going well, what's not going? Well,
04:03 we'll be continuing. Education classes will take and they're
04:06 continuing their professional development, which is really
04:08 Cool X. And we've built a partnership with the Abide
04:12 Network. This doctor Jennifer Jill Schwarzer's ministry and
04:15 our students are receiving mental health coaching training
04:19 so they can become mental health coaches. My wife just
04:21 launched a mental health coaching business. I'm doing
04:23 this very thing and it's incredibly powerful news.
04:26 Rich Blessing fact. Doctor Jennifer Jill teaches next week
04:29 for us for that. And I'm so we've built that into the
04:32 curriculum. So lots more professional development is
04:35 being offered as well. And some people think like with the
04:38 school like this tie, like I don't feel called to be a
04:41 pastor. A Bible worker doesn't matter. You have to be a pastor
04:45 by worker to come to court. Allen is in real estate and he
04:49 is taking that those gifts and talents that he's developed and
04:52 he's brought them into the work. He's doing any also aside
04:55 projects he's doing in ministry now as a result of that,
04:57 the starting a halfway house and a teen center, which is
05:01 really excited to tell us about that. Yeah, so we'll hear more
05:04 about that in just a little bit. And so, but it is going on
05:07 the Bible working potentially pastoral ministry in Seoul.
05:10 It's there's different tracks for different folks. So avenue,
05:15 just
05:16 4 missions are avid S a AFM avon's frontier. We've we're
05:22 working on an agreement with them that our graduates can go
05:26 into the mission field even so if they feel after they lay
05:28 that foundation with core, that's another opportunity.
05:32 If you want to be a pastor revival worker, you can shadow
05:34 of pastor while by working in go to school next. So you have
05:38 to not go to school. If you come to court to spend those 13
05:41 weeks, maybe an additional 6 months, get right back in
05:44 school and continue your journey. And so we're really
05:47 excited about this next step and we would love for more
05:50 people to have the experience. That's what we've done. It
05:53 praise the Lord.
05:54 >> Now I think we'll say that's not maybe at the end this.
05:57 Well, you mentioned during the break, something.
06:00 >> Free on the Web site. Yes, free. Yes. About the
06:04 everybody loves free. So we're in the process of getting core
06:07 online available to people. So if you can't come in person
06:11 to a process, we're finishing but are 3 angels messages class
06:15 were offering for free? Anybody can take it. So when you go to
06:18 our website core evangelism dot Com C or E evangelism dot com,
06:24 a banner shows up as soon as you go to the website, he just
06:27 click that banner and offers are 3 of those messages class
06:29 for free. You can watch all the modules. And so that's our gift
06:33 to you. If you'd like to go deeper in your faith experience
06:36 and want to see the heart of God in the midst of the 3 as
06:39 messages class, you can tune in and get that for free. Get a
06:42 taste. And if you like what you hear, sign up for the full 13
06:46 week program and come join us.
06:47 >> Mastic pretty hard so they can do that right after this
06:52 program is over.
06:53 >> Yeah, they get a good night's rest. Your brain is a
06:55 bit more fresh. New start first thing in the morning. Haman.
06:59 Very good.
07:00 >> Well, I would like to invite you all to just admire the
07:06 message inside and they know it's going to be an
07:10 instrumental interpretation of this message that is so
07:14 intense. But it's s it all in Christ alone. And this is going
07:19 to be shared by Jamie George H.
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08:59 >> Fat 10. I owe you and the love. Cry highs, too.
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11:21 >> A man Jamie George in Christ alone. And if you would like to
11:24 invite him to one of your offensive end of this campaign
11:27 week, a prayer, we need to have a concert. He saw a person that
11:32 loves to share about the Lord and he's got a wonderful
11:35 testimony as well. That's right. So you can find him on
11:38 Facebook or contact us at 3ABN will share that information
11:41 with you. So I have been tense of a new kind of in
11:44 Pennsylvania. He was just 2 churches near us recently.
11:47 Excellent and interesting because we were somewhere
11:51 traveling one time and we heard that he was in the area as
11:53 well. He goes, he gets around. Thanks so much for that.
11:57 Well, so we heard something about a halfway house and the
12:00 Lord a leading you to do that. Can you tell us about that
12:04 island? Yes, so I really did not want to leave core last
12:07 year. But haha on our spring break. I was praying to God.
12:11 I said, what do I do after core
12:15 and seems like at Home Sohn said, hey, you know, open up a
12:19 halfway house and then 2 more people. The same day that I got
12:24 home said, hey, you need to open up. A halfway house has
12:26 sent a hand. I actually talked to someone then.
12:29 >> And they said that the the whole nation is in need of
12:32 faith-based halfway houses for people to live together in a
12:36 Christian community that they can just grow together in faith
12:40 and be good.
12:42 And so I really took that partly because I have a real
12:45 estate backgrounds like, like, you know what, I can do that
12:48 because I can build houses and remodeled. And and I can
12:53 minister to him, too, because I want to do not just to real
12:56 estate, but I now want to do also ministry in my
12:58 professional life and a man prays to Lord. Yes, what is the
13:03 plan with the halfway house who can be there? So for my first
13:06 house, I'm going to be there. I'm going to the manager and
13:09 then I'm going expand. And then they have other managers for
13:12 each of the house is what I'm going to start in North Central
13:15 West Virginia, where I'm from and then hopefully expand to
13:17 other states, accessible praise the Lord.
13:21 >> Theresa Mud. Now this is different because this halfway
13:24 house that is a Christian base. Yes. So what are what is that
13:28 like? The the program like? So the program?
13:32 >> They're going to go to pretty much church services
13:35 okay, every week. And also they have to go to celebrate
13:38 recovery, which is a faith-based recovery program,
13:41 OK? And they're going to be have to go to that at least
13:44 once or twice a week. And there's also a work
13:47 requirement. And then they also have to just not get any
13:50 trouble at all came very good.
13:53 >> And this is just type of surfaces. Our offer to what
13:57 type of? Yes.
13:59 >> So mainly people who are coming out of prison or
14:02 recovery services, or does anyone who just wants to remain
14:06 in a house that without any alcohol being used to just like
14:11 a good house and that that they can pretty much I have brothers
14:15 that they can grow together with and just have have good
14:20 wholesome fellowship with each other and just get through this
14:23 life, knowing that Jesus loves them and that will do anything
14:27 from that. We can just all support each other, the man to
14:30 man an employee to lie. Even we heard about awesome testimony
14:34 that you're going to share with us. Please go ahead. Sure.
14:37 So from the program, I think the one us referring to earlier
14:43 there was a lady that I studied with this last year, which was
14:48 the result of
14:50 previous work.
14:51 I'm one of the
14:54 >> outreach instructors and helpers in the program is a
14:57 mess. Isaiah. He was a student at core a couple of years ago
15:03 when he was canvassing who knocked on the ladies Dr.
15:07 It went from just a book to Bible study, could got a I
15:12 think she got a sense of crisis. And then after that was
15:15 interested in Bible studies, he studied with her. But after the
15:19 program, she had not made a decision, you know, for a
15:23 fuller understanding of Christ, right? And and so I was at the
15:27 program and Isaiah told me he said
15:31 there's this Lady, Jacqueline,
15:32 I I think, should be open to studying more. She was really
15:35 excited about what we were studying mom, but we didn't,
15:39 you know, get to a decision point. And so myself and my my
15:44 study partner, we reached out to her. We're like, hey,
15:48 we're doing studies. Do you like to study with us? And she
15:51 was like absolutely loved. The study also raises. And so
15:55 we studied with her. And then we had an evangelistic series.
16:01 We invited her to the evangelistic series. She came
16:03 to that as well. And she had at that point, I believe she had
16:09 made a decision for baptism. She wanted to get that highest.
16:12 But obviously when you start to learn new things yet to get a
16:18 brand new conception of the Bible, there is many things
16:21 that you may need to learn before you fully make that
16:24 decision and get baptize me. And so after the program,
16:29 she continued to get disciple ship from the local church,
16:33 which was, I think, really special because, again, we see
16:36 that process of one person to the next to the next of
16:40 disabling. Yes. And as by workers as people who are
16:44 disciple wing,
16:45 it's really, really important for us not to just disciple
16:49 people, but to, you know, work with a local church to
16:53 encourage them, the other church members in the church to
16:56 continue with that stifling. And ultimately because of all
17:01 of those links in that chain of events that she just got
17:04 baptized a couple of months ago, quite a lot.
17:08 >> We're also planting the seeds seen, you know, the Lord
17:12 gives the the increase. So it takes a village so many.
17:18 I received a letter from one of our viewers and a one of the
17:23 network's one of the 10 network's Street pm Half
17:26 history being Latino and they have Spanish programming.
17:30 And this mother and this daughter, adult daughter were
17:34 watching 03:00PM and Latino and Davis at the first church.
17:39 So they they were like so excited about this in the first
17:45 church and because they have learned so many things that
17:48 Michael foot truths in the Bible. But when they went to
17:51 the change, they say they were not welcomed in. It was a cold.
17:57 Everybody was senior clerics in and what not to make said,
18:01 give it another chance to give it another try. And I visited
18:05 them and long story short. They went back and it was
18:09 totally different to his site. So welcoming and everything.
18:12 But Satan wants to discourage right. But the church decided
18:17 to nurture these people see and they are there today. And the
18:21 happened baptized today, man. So praise the Lord for those
18:26 stories. A man praise the Lord.
18:28 >> Something I'd like to share on that point is when when
18:32 you're in a church, you know, I think we've all heard the
18:34 stories of people going to a church and it wasn't a good
18:37 experience, right? They felt like it was cold. My experience
18:41 has been that a lot of times. It only takes one or 2 people
18:45 to make that difference between whether it's a cold church or
18:48 warm. And so if you can be, you know, for our viewers at home,
18:53 you can be that person. Is that warming foot to make someone
18:57 else? Those are really warm church right now. Maybe it was
19:00 just one person, a person who is warm for maybe 2 people.
19:04 3 people write, you get that perception just from a couple.
19:08 >> We've got a world famous creator. One of my church is
19:11 just a lovely human beings teams, teddy, just the sweetest
19:14 guy. When someone comes in, he is so happy. You're there wants
19:18 to make sure you're well cared for and makes a big difference.
19:22 >> A man who defame and but I can see how core evangelism
19:26 school yeas is actually a a team for the local church.
19:31 Yeah, I mean, because
19:34 we all as the commitments and obligations of the everyday
19:39 life, we can't be, you know, doing the follow up every day
19:43 like a core. Eventually some students do. So they do the in
19:48 introduction and they do the work they to the Bible studies
19:52 and then they bring other people from the local churches
19:55 to be friend. That person, a new form, a family that takes
19:59 me back to the halfway house that when you come in, you take
20:03 these people in and these people, they're coming out of
20:07 press or she's simply need a family environment of the
20:12 Brotherhood, the sense of belonging, and that opens up
20:17 their heights to hear more about Christ.
20:21 >> So pretty. And that's what courted for me. Because when I
20:23 came in, they took me in as family and I felt like his
20:26 family priest. Yeah, like I did not want to leave cells like
20:29 Manuel there go another year or I create this environment for
20:33 myself and have my own disciples. And so I felt like
20:37 God was really saying, hey, you know, you just need to get out
20:39 there and do it. And so that's what that's what I'm doing.
20:42 And I'm on to make disciples. And I want to create the
20:44 atmosphere that we can on the increase. They've been asked a
20:47 second time. I hear him here, Allan, say that I did not want
20:51 to leave. That's a I don't know how you can get a better and
20:53 our side. Well, in another endorsement as we've had
20:56 multiple siblings go through the program. So we've had one
20:59 person come into their siblings. Like all I want to
21:02 come, that's happened. Our first year someone came and
21:06 their siblings saw the change in their siblings and they came
21:10 happened a second time. And then some came at the same time
21:13 with 5 people from my wife's church come at the same time.
21:16 We basically stole the whole. You know, you don't. They came
21:20 and got rain bike or in someone's back. My wife stayed
21:23 with me, but with that, but the relationship started after the
21:28 program. But Horton said clear and carry on. But yes, so those
21:34 we've seen that a lot. And so we had one story of a young man
21:38 came as a median turn. And we we had him involved in outreach
21:43 in classes and stuff, too. And his life was so
21:46 dramatically change that his dad started to experience
21:49 revival. It was getting Bible studies to people and doing
21:53 literature outreach. So he's, you know, more and more mature
21:55 adult who works for university. And he's out giving out free
21:59 controversies in San Bernardino, alongside college
22:01 students because the revival that this an experienced and so
22:05 they have quadruplets, the son was one of them threat. And one
22:08 of the sisters decided to come because of the changes on her
22:11 brother behind him. And now she's on fire for ministry.
22:15 She came the same year that Ethan Allen came and it's on
22:18 fire for the Lord in a spin. That's been a big endorsement
22:21 to us that people don't want to leave for one in 2 because
22:25 usually, you know, like siblings like if my brother or
22:27 my sister didn't like, I want to do it right is what if it's
22:30 changing their life so dramatically that they want to.
22:33 And we're seeing multiple families experience reliable
22:36 source earring because we have a big emphasis on mental health
22:39 as our students are beginning to experience healing and grow
22:43 and learn things. Yeah, the fascinating to me is we're
22:46 seeing stories and we're hearing stories that their own
22:49 families making intentional decisions to get therapy,
22:52 to work their processes, to experience reconciliation and
22:55 so forth. It's been so cool that not only is revival
22:58 becoming contagious, but even he leaves becoming wages race
23:02 to lull because of this gospel emphasis of righteousness by
23:06 faith and mental health altogether. It's leading to
23:08 real change in in significant ways and is reviving churches
23:13 to lower. Now you mention the the mental health aspect.
23:17 Do you see that some need Torre court to do that? Absolutely.
23:21 I mean, it was a big need in my own life personally, which is
23:23 kind of why I got incorporated into just my own preaching and
23:26 teaching ministry. But again and going all these different
23:29 academies, there are so many questions and issues of dealing
23:32 with anxiety and depression and loneliness and discouragement
23:35 and having unhealthy views of God and the views of
23:38 themselves. And so I just felt like it would be important for
23:42 us to incorporate all of these principles together because the
23:45 topic of mental health is not something that's like
23:48 secular in karnal and worldly. God cares about her feelings
23:54 cares about our emotions. God cares about our ability to
23:58 think true. Thoughts in the clink clearly called the spirit
24:02 of truth. Yes. And I say he says the whole head is sick,
24:05 right? And that we've taken refuge in lies. Isaiah 61 when
24:10 Jesus announces he's calling in Luke Chapter 4 in the temple.
24:14 The hand of the scroll of Isaiah. The first thing Jesus
24:17 turns to his eyes is 61 and says the spirit of the Lord.
24:20 God is upon me to preach good tidings to the poor, to heal
24:24 the broken-hearted us set the captives free to get in the oil
24:27 of joy for morning. Yeah. And the spirit of of of debt of
24:32 gratitude for the spirit of heaviness and to proclaim the
24:35 acceptable year. The Lord Jesus is announcement was I came here
24:38 to heal people. Yes of their broken hearts of their
24:41 loneliness. Other discouragement and I came to
24:45 proclaim acceptable year. The Lord, as we mentioned
24:47 earlier, there are many people calling 3ABN who don't have
24:50 assurance of Salvation. Yes, Jesus came to proclaim the
24:53 acceptable year of the Lord that we are excepted in the
24:57 beloved ephesians one. And so for us, we feel like these
25:00 things are inseparable that the 3 angels messages, right,
25:04 assist by faith and mental health. These all have overlap.
25:07 It's not some side. We're tangents. They all are arment
25:11 together. The latest in a message, the root issue,
25:14 the latest. The message is you're miserable. You can see
25:17 it. You're not who you think you are emotionally
25:20 psychologically, spiritually and otherwise. And you need
25:23 counseling the testimony. The true witness is you need
25:26 counseling. And so our goal and our objective is to help people
25:29 see who they really are, who God really is and to give them
25:33 tools to appropriately handle these issues in the biblical
25:37 fashion because sometimes we just say the most ridiculous
25:41 things will just pray harder and have more faith in the new
25:44 person is going to go away while we don't tell people to
25:47 pray away a broken leg, we tell them to go see a doctor.
25:49 We don't tell people to have more faith when they have a
25:52 stomach ulcer. We tell them to go see a gee, I dark rye.
25:56 It's okay for someone to see a biblical counselor to help the
26:00 work through how the human mind works to receive healing in
26:02 road work through that, then our ministers should be
26:05 informed in these topics. And so we're developing
26:08 emotionally intelligent cry centered missionaries who will
26:12 go in all forms of ministry man is making a big impact,
26:15 students or or or
26:16 >> growing tremendously as result of a man, you mentioned
26:20 different students to have gone different places that tell us
26:24 about
26:25 the first wave of students and their experience and where did
26:28 they go and what are they doing? Certainly, yeah, we
26:30 have. So one of the people is in year one.
26:33 >> He went from core to eventually help with the byword
26:38 preparations for it is written. And so in Minnesota, he was
26:41 helping to prepare churches all around the conference to do
26:44 evangelism that eventually got her b***, Oklahoma Conference
26:48 of our board coordinator there. And now he's a pastor who also
26:51 Courtney Survival work side of things. We have students who
26:55 are just they went back to schools to summer, studying to
26:57 be teachers. One of our former students works in media.
27:01 It is written. That's all from your one. We've got people who
27:04 are photographers, nurses, videographers of multiple
27:08 people studying to be pastors. Even Sarah, a Allen is in real
27:13 estate. So we have a broad net of what people do when they
27:17 finish. One of our graduates last actually 2 of our
27:19 graduates from 2 separate years, one from last year and
27:23 that girl, his brother's life was changing. She decided to
27:25 come. She went intended vetch if that's an avid this culinary
27:29 school in Norway and at the same year that she went to that
27:33 one of our student from 2 years ago joined her. And so one of
27:36 those students is even valley running, helping to learn about
27:39 hygiene and cooking and the other girl. She's an Australia
27:42 working at the center of influence with her with her
27:45 experience. So it's your your track is not limited. When you
27:48 come to court, you have to be a pastor. You can do anything for
27:52 Jesus and now you have the skills to do. So the man,
27:55 a man.
27:56 >> I think that the mental health is very important
27:59 because a lot of people say your question, how could you be
28:03 depressed? Your question, how could you be discouraged?
28:06 So we're a question. Why are you in just about the Bible
28:09 says the interests over nothing, you know, not even the
28:13 birds in the air worry about anything. So why are you
28:16 worrying? So we have a lack of training, if you will, in these
28:22 areas. And some may think I'm here the mental health. Well,
28:28 it's been talked about across the board
28:32 in the world, not just in the United States of America,
28:36 and it doesn't need that needs to be tended to. I can
28:40 understand how a healthy mind is a healthy heart and you can
28:44 focus in the things that
28:48 you know that are important. But we are called to do so.
28:52 When you go to these program, you have an MOU program.
28:56 That is 6 weeks, 13 weeks, 13 ways. Okay. So you call for the
29:01 mental health as well in those 13 weeks.
29:05 >> Still cover the AVMA some s it we still deal with mental
29:07 health. So we're trimming the program down from 300 hours
29:10 curriculum, 230. So we still have a majority of the
29:14 curriculum. Students can often buy access to the additional
29:19 files that they want to. That's an option. Students who
29:22 do the internship track will go through that remaining part of
29:25 the curriculum just by being in terms because we'll have
29:28 continuing education. That's part of it.
29:30 And so, yeah, people will still get the full experience of the
29:34 mental health coaching process, the the training for that is
29:37 built into the curriculum. And so, yeah, we deal with the
29:39 ominous message, practical ministry and mental health all
29:44 at the same time. It's all in all incorporated, even just the
29:47 way that we address certain classes, those teams are woven.
29:49 And so as I mentioned, my wife is a mental health coach.
29:52 She started her own business to do that and is creating
29:55 resources, says she's done a book-in other things and it's
29:58 creating classes and doing webinars to help people learn
30:01 how to do that is somewhat she's teaching in that process.
30:04 She shares with her students think sometimes we do worship
30:06 with him on that and we counsel, we work with our
30:09 students. So we spend a lot of time. You're asking that the
30:12 differences earlier were very intentional and spending
30:15 quality time with her students to help them work their story.
30:18 Whatever issues come up when we needed to know to administer
30:21 discipline, we don't just get your act together. You need to
30:24 fix this. We figure with the root issues. Are we spend the
30:28 time we asked the questions, we don't jump to conclusions.
30:31 We stop. We listen. We check in with them. What are the actual
30:34 route issues? And by doing that, the students are
30:38 completely different at the end because someone's finally
30:41 teaching them how to process their thoughts in a healthy
30:43 way. Figure out why they're doing what they're doing is
30:46 just correcting external behavior. We're dealing for
30:48 root issues of Billy systems and then empowers him to learn
30:51 how to think critically with the class critical thinking.
30:55 I had actually use your brain to think for yourself and work
30:58 through stuff because it's very easy, especially within the
31:01 conservative environment. We get told what to do. A lot
31:04 of that that were not given the why behind these things.
31:07 And so when they leave conservative avenues homes
31:10 against conservatism, a conservative after this.
31:12 But we understand in some of those principles were just told
31:15 what to do. And then we go to secular colleges or even have
31:19 this colleges and people say, why do you do that? And our our
31:22 kids have no good answer for that. That's a good question.
31:27 And so then they say what doesn't make any sense and then
31:29 they hear some Bible tax or something else. And they were
31:31 never really taught how to own their faith. They were never
31:34 thought taught how to think critically. And so we're doing
31:37 a lot of that, the programs. And so they're just better
31:41 prepared for life as a result of going through the courts,
31:44 not just had to win the argument. Bible school, right?
31:47 Like 3 or more all encompassing, OK?
31:50 >> No. How are you funded?
31:52 >> That's a great question. So I'm for the first 5 years of
31:56 the program, we've been 100% privately funded. The
32:00 Pennsylvania conference believes in what we're doing.
32:02 And so they are subsidizing part of our program. But we are
32:06 largely dependent upon donor gifts to ensure that we can
32:10 keep hearing stories like Ethan Zohn Allen's and we're a
32:14 Ministry of the Pennsylvania Conference but were privately
32:17 funded to a large degree. A majority of our funding comes
32:19 from outside the conference. They do subsidized part of what
32:22 we do. But and it's really helpful because the gift you
32:25 give to core because we're conference employees are into
32:28 the conference system. Our admin costs are much lower
32:32 because the counting is done by the conference. Right insurance
32:35 is down to the conference. So more of your money is going
32:39 directly to the work and not a lot of overhead rent so that
32:43 that's a big blessing in our partnership. Pennsylvania
32:45 conferences on fire for evangelism and Nash. And
32:49 they've been so supportive of what we're doing. It's been
32:51 such a privilege to work with them. Mary gives or conference
32:54 president. He teaches for core and he's been very, very
32:58 intentional engine in letting the conference know we believe
33:01 in this.
33:02 >> And we want to ensure that it continues. And it's really
33:04 good that you're opening it up to all ages because Sarah folks
33:08 that are retired and it's like beginning a new life. Yeah,
33:12 if you will, breaking away, taking a sabbatical going
33:16 through the studies so they can also get involved. But how can
33:20 people get involved with this program? Is that by church is
33:24 inviting your students, too, you know, to do, though,
33:28 hands-on or how this will work?
33:31 >> Yes, so the way that people can get involved, just go to
33:33 the website. If you'd like to be a student or you think of
33:35 someone who you think would benefit from being a student,
33:38 just go to our website core evangelism dot com and that's
33:42 where you can. You can find out how to become a member of the
33:45 program had actually be a student.
33:47 And again, we have an early Bird special. If you apply
33:49 before, April 1st, you can save $250 on your tuitions. So if
33:54 you know of people would benefit sets the biggest way
33:57 people can get involved, obviously, by donating to the
33:59 program, a tax-deductible gift. They're furthering the disciple
34:03 ship of young and old alike. That's also a big blessing,
34:06 a benefit. And then another way people can get involved is
34:09 sometimes action that sometimes I get calls all the time.
34:13 People in Bible workers, not every student goes to court,
34:17 will buy work. But even as one of them, he's going to be
34:19 outstanding. Bible worker buddy spoken for somebody already
34:22 called and Allen is deeply involved in lay ministry and
34:26 his church is and what I knew. So yeah, we're going to meet as
34:29 the personal minister's director at my church now.
34:32 Yeah, grazing VOA are they put in the work right away. So
34:36 studies witnessing this guy's doing it for a living but he
34:38 has his hands on a mission. Wow. So but each year there's
34:42 usually some graduates will be interesting, a viable work.
34:45 And sometimes we have previous year's graduates, we can send
34:47 responses to them and see if you're interested. So this is
34:49 the main ways. If you'd like to have some of the core team
34:53 coming, maybe do a training at a church, they can email us
34:57 just at info at core evangelism dot com. We can see what's
35:00 possible. This limited schedule me past ring. It's harder for
35:03 me to get away from them. But we do have support staff
35:06 that could help with some of that. We generally try to
35:09 prioritize our travel for places where we can recruit
35:13 students. So if you feel like you have a church that would be
35:15 open-minded would benefit from that. We speak at youth events,
35:19 you know, conferences and academies and colleges and
35:22 things like that, too. The church is interested in
35:24 inviting some of the staff or for the court to come to their
35:29 church. How long is it is saying Friday Saturday. Yeah.
35:33 What is usually it's going to be like a weekend. Sometimes a
35:36 week of prayer could happen, but most likely be a weekend.
35:39 Up now to the program's 13 weeks. My support staff has a
35:44 bit more time like in the summer or in a little bit
35:45 towards the winter months to do some travel for things like
35:48 that. But then they're working. A local church is part of the
35:51 change we made was my support. Staff is working in
35:54 Pennsylvania Conference church is helping them to grow and
35:57 cheese or evangelistic goals and preparing those churches to
36:00 receive students. We want to make sure that all of us are
36:03 staying fresh, engaging our communities and not just
36:06 administrating a program that's making a big difference.
36:08 We'd also like to stay fresh in touch with our communities.
36:11 So me past ring and my staff doing gospel ministry in
36:14 churches was important to us, too. I want to go to Ethan for
36:18 a moment to ask, you know, what were your expectations?
36:22 >> Upon going to core and how hes going to core either
36:27 amplified your perspective or changed your perspective?
36:31 Bowman said.
36:34 >> As far as expectations go, I don't know all of what all of
36:38 my expectations are for going into it. I guess I thought,
36:41 you know, is going I was going about God is going to learn how
36:44 to share my faith. And I think I I probably looked at it
36:50 in large part kind of like
36:53 learn the doctrines are and how to defend the faith and what
36:56 not. And that the program.
36:59 It definitely exceeded my expectations. I do remember
37:03 thinking like whatever my expectations I they've been
37:05 exceeded
37:07 because you have the aspect of all the classroom learning just
37:12 absolutely invaluable. But you also have the aspect of being
37:17 able to apply that in the real world in real time. But it's
37:21 not just something I that I'm going to apply after. The fact
37:25 is something that I get to apply as I'm learning to write.
37:29 And that's a huge thing came up. Probably the single biggest
37:34 as I look back, especially now setting
37:38 everything aside.
37:40 The single biggest thing I think that made it. The biggest
37:42 impact for me
37:44 was that
37:46 I was there and I was actively sharing my faith,
37:51 the firemen that
37:53 had the expectation that I would be doing something for
37:57 the Lord that follow through with that because you set
38:00 aside, although there's things break, right. I think that's
38:04 ultimately what's what's most important, mom,
38:08 you want to learn how to do the right methods. All of those
38:11 things are important right at the end of the day, if you
38:15 aren't actually, you know, boots on the ground, working at
38:19 the Lord, fighting in the Army roared, then you're not
38:23 fulfilling what we talked earlier in the 28.
38:28 And so, yeah, that the the practical aspect of it was a
38:33 big, important thing for me. And then, of course, I don't
38:37 want to diminish just the practical hands-on learning as
38:40 well. I still refer back to my notes. You know, if I'm working
38:45 on a somber note saying I try to we have all of the
38:51 recordings and we have what? So, yeah, all the classes get
38:54 recorded. You get access to that. So obviously, you know,
38:58 you can only retain. I think they see you retain like 10% of
39:02 a serving here, right? All right. You can go back and we
39:06 listen to that. That's huge. And I refer back to, you know,
39:09 all the teachers, if they had to sell this, if they had
39:12 different documents for the class, my regularly refer back
39:16 to those things. And I find that even now as I'm preparing
39:20 bible studies in sermons and things like that to be a very
39:23 valuable resource, not for just myself, Im an amen.
39:28 >> But that is definitely a commitment. Yes, and you know,
39:30 you guys both are committed it. You didn't go to play and the
39:36 curse to me that
39:38 if a young person might be interested in studying in,
39:42 is there a what is called?
39:50 >> That's called Case Cause Cancer ship to its sponsorship.
39:53 Yeah. So we're working on developing or the student fund
39:57 to help with some of that. That's also one of the ways
40:00 that people can help us. If you say like, hey, I can do
40:03 it. I don't know when you can go, but I believe in what
40:05 you're doing, you can contribute to the were the
40:07 student fund to ensure that more people like Ethan Allen
40:11 can have that experience. When a student is excepted,
40:14 we give them a fundraising letter that they can share with
40:16 family friends, their church and so forth. This makes a big
40:19 difference. Yes, we've already written for than that explains
40:22 with the program, does not our letterhead. My contact
40:25 information is there of people have questions. And many times
40:28 students will do that this year with all kinds of folks.
40:30 And that helps them to kind of meet their goals. The $7,000
40:35 that covers all their food, the entire length of the program,
40:38 older lodging and all of the practicum and all that. All of
40:41 that stuff said, Tim, it's all built in so they don't need to
40:44 worry about what they're going to eat the entire time. They're
40:46 fit every meal every day through the tuition that
40:49 they're paying. You know, you said you were talking about 9
40:52 months currently year. Yeah.
40:55 >> Well, I I did some quick math here. And in this it's a
40:59 program that's compared to others. That's it's a portable,
41:03 very much most programs around the $6,000 Mark when we did 9.
41:07 >> So we did a nine-month model its 13,000. And when you do
41:11 that kind of ratios were actually quite a good deal.
41:14 And we feed you some programs don't feed you get to future
41:16 self. And for the 13 week model, the 7,000 that includes
41:21 the food. And so that's a competitive rate. When you can
41:24 figure all that in it to worry about stressing what you're
41:26 going to make or whatever the cafeteria cause, some delicious
41:29 vegan and vegetarian food, it all covered for you to do a
41:32 very great job. And so that's that's old. Built in.
41:35 >> You just said cafeteria food hits a professional culinary
41:40 company that runs it. So it's not a, you know, a lunch lady,
41:43 Judy or something, you know, whipping up only Sloppy Joes or
41:46 something like theirs. No offense to any Judy's. That's
41:49 what I know. God bless you. Thank you for your service.
41:53 Haha. But in this context of this is this is a professional
41:56 company that runs the cafeteria, but that also which
42:00 is great.
42:01 >> And so yeah, and then the other big thing for the program
42:03 is that they learn from some of the brightest minds in the end,
42:05 Mister Church. As I mentioned, Gary gives our conference
42:08 president. He teaches Doctor Eric Walsh is one of our
42:11 teachers. He just taught unapologetic, say couple weeks
42:13 ago. Sebastien Braxton Pastor Nathan Runner Jennifer Jill
42:17 Shores are Pastor Chris Holland,
42:19 Lance Wilber Rico Hill. They got programming on DARE to
42:22 Dream Network. I'm Scott. Julie Grizz will help to teach
42:25 our cross-cultural witnessing component had Mister refugees
42:29 and immigrants. I'm Elise hard Bolt and Rhonda Field and many
42:33 others. I still teach. Obviously my wife teaches as
42:35 well. And so we've got some brilliant minds and you have
42:38 this church that are really kind of helping them to to go
42:40 deep.
42:42 >> You just mentioned something that triggered a question and
42:45 how do you reach the must tomorrow here in the United
42:49 States? We're getting so many people of that faith. So do you
42:55 teach that cultural?
42:57 >> So part of our curriculum has cross-cultural witnessing
43:00 its Scott and Julie Griswold. He helped her in the B****
43:03 Study Center for a while. They spent a lot of time in
43:05 Thailand in in the southeastern area. So we give them
43:09 principles on how to engage cross culturally. So it's not
43:13 this exhaustive list of came slums. Here's your formula in
43:16 Buddhist. Here's your formula. It's learning how to make
43:19 connections with people on a friendship level, learning how
43:22 to kind of accept the good aspects of their culture and
43:24 meet them where you can learn how to kind of draw a line in
43:26 the sand and certain aspects of culture and had to engage them.
43:29 So the first mission trip we did was to Cuba. The last 4
43:33 that we've done have been with Scott and Julie Griswold and
43:36 their minister reach the world next door, which is part of a
43:38 safe time in history. Former minister in the refugees in
43:41 Houston, Texas. And so part of our goal is long term in the
43:44 internship option where people could choose like a
43:48 cross-cultural witnessing track and whether that would be in
43:51 Texas or somewhere else will have multiple tracks for
43:54 students to choose if they want to do the internship and
43:56 potentially something like that could be another option.
43:58 So much saying, you know, field experience, you mention that
44:01 core
44:03 one of the object, this, of course, is to help people
44:07 develop this who that is and and the personal relationship
44:11 with Christ. How do you accomplished and how do you
44:14 help the student reach that experience a personal
44:18 relationship with God? So the classes play a big role in that
44:22 of continually putting before them who God is and who they
44:25 are. It's the steady drumbeat. We just keep swinging that
44:28 gospel acts every class for 300 hours. And there's these
44:33 moments. The each student has where they get it right.
44:35 They think the or sometimes they get it. But then they kind
44:38 of fall back to those old thought patterns are not good
44:40 enough. Would God save me? And we just keep that steady
44:42 pressure of the gospel in every single class. Tell your story.
44:46 We had a student had this recurring dream of the second
44:49 coming. And it wasn't really a good dream is a nightmare
44:52 because every time he had this dream of the second coming,
44:55 he would see his family lifted up and his feet would stay on
44:58 the ground. Just thought he would never be good enough.
45:02 He wasn't going to be saved. But he felt like I can't really
45:05 do anything else all to stick around. But he was miserable.
45:07 Many people feel that way and he goes to the core program.
45:11 He goes or classes. We're reading different books as part
45:14 of the programs like Lessons on Faith by Jones Wagner, the book
45:18 Steps To Cry Steps, a person revival by Omaha Beal and he's
45:22 reading different books. He's studying different aspects
45:25 with Israel's messages. Classes really gospel centered and
45:28 helps people find assurance of salvation in that message.
45:32 And he goes through these classes and he has the dream
45:34 again later in the school year, he thought on or this is going
45:37 to go. And the second coming is happening, she says, is coming
45:40 in the clouds and his family is raised up
45:44 and then he saw himself joining them well, and and God was
45:48 doing work for him internally subconsciously, where he's
45:51 finally realizing that God accepts me, that man's and we
45:56 have so many stories like that of our students having
45:58 breakthroughs in finding assurance of salvation based
46:01 upon solid biblical teachings. Not just God loves you, but
46:05 that every one or 2 people get so scared. We when we start
46:08 talking about Jesus too much people start to wonder if
46:11 they're going to be Biblical Adventists and that's absurd.
46:14 Haha, that's just absurd. Others are no reason why you
46:16 can't be a solid Biblical Adventist and at the same time
46:20 be incredibly gospel centered and that was the cold that God
46:23 is giving 3 Ellen White to our church. And that's what our
46:26 mission has been as a program where we keep seeing it.
46:29 Amen. Amen to that question about it.
46:32 >> You know, how does the program helps someone to
46:34 develop a personal relationship with Christ? All sheriff for me
46:38 personally, one of the big things that really helped me
46:41 was we do morning worships in each student. There's kind of a
46:45 rotating cycle where each student has a share 15 minute
46:49 concise morning worship with the whole class. And
46:53 so you get a lot of practice, you know, up front in front of
46:57 your your cost per year. So the thought is not too
46:59 scary. But, you know, just your friends really
47:03 presenting a short message from the word and having to do that.
47:09 You know, it forces you to study, you have to study in
47:12 order to have something to present. And so rather than
47:16 having say, you know, you could have a program that says
47:19 got to spend 30 minutes in your Bible every morning. I don't
47:21 think that would be a very good thing. But if you say, OK,
47:24 we're going to have an expectation that each person is
47:27 going to learn how to share worship rain. When you have
47:29 that expectation, it really encourages un forces you to
47:33 study your bible. And it's really ultimately that personal
47:36 study of the Bible and personal prayer.
47:39 >> That develops a personal relationship with Christ.
47:42 Yeah, you meant it and knowing that God is safe and
47:45 accessible, not looking over my shoulder waiting to push the
47:48 red button or there's a lot of that unlearning. That's part of
47:51 the curriculum in that process so that they recognize that I
47:54 can be open with God about the things I'm feeling that things
47:56 are anxious about the things I'm concerned about and by
47:59 opening up those lines of communication and putting them
48:03 in environments where the hearing spiritual things all
48:05 day, they're connecting with other spiritual people for
48:07 studying the word to share with others. They have to pray.
48:10 They recognizing canvassing their desperate need of Jesus
48:13 because it's scary, you know, at times and I mean, with a new
48:17 iteration of the program is just a Bible working for
48:20 assists. But for those who still want canvassing
48:22 experience, we have an option for them. They can cameras the
48:24 summer before car core starts. So we have that option for
48:28 them. Pennsylvania conference has a canvassing program this
48:31 looking for students right now. And so someone feels a call to
48:34 engage in literature, evangelism in their 25 to 18 or
48:37 17. They can do that to 6 reach out to core. We can connect you
48:41 with them. But so that that process of being dependent upon
48:45 God, you see him work. Yes, so we surround them with this kind
48:49 of all encompassing net of spiritual classes, spiritual
48:52 people counseling. We pray over them and pray with them and
48:56 help them work through their journey meant. But then they're
48:58 studying for themselves, a man and it just comes alive like
49:00 you can't spend time in the word of God in prayer and not
49:04 change my in especially if you're seeing God, is he really
49:07 is and how accessible and intimate he is finished as a
49:10 whole nother level in so many part.
49:13 >> You have a question of well, I want it now and to see if the
49:17 ladies First Island, I know he have a lot to share and ever,
49:24 everybody here is a one world and so many details in our
49:30 lives that we can share with the Lloyd has transformed this
49:34 area my life and this area of my life. What can you share
49:38 with our young people watching admiring that and deciding that
49:45 relationship with the Lord and that transformation? They want
49:48 to be free. I mean, not free because the they were there in
49:54 prison, but freed from their sand from their past live and
49:59 just renew their life.
50:01 >> Yes, so if you actually look into the viral hit states,
50:04 how to deal with every problem you may face in this world,
50:08 if it just talks about how soon is the cause, the root of all
50:12 problems and Jesus is the solution. So if you actually
50:16 implement that into your life completely year, everything is
50:20 going to come much bettors can complete its going to change
50:23 everything about you to make you complete and whole a man
50:26 there. Yeah, we actually part of our mission trip this last
50:29 year.
50:30 >> Was to Houston, Texas to minister to refugees and Allen
50:33 came to visit because he spent last summer at so he went on
50:36 the mission trip during core and it was such an impactful
50:39 experience this summer. He went back to that Mission Field
50:42 while spent the whole summer ministering to refugees since
50:44 the law. Then we had our students for this year come
50:47 because he knew the area so well, Scott Julie asked him to
50:49 join again and we did this mental health focused health
50:53 fair in a Cambodian largely Cambodian community and where
50:59 there are a lot of refugees there. And we did a health care
51:01 with practical steps that had to improve your mental health.
51:04 And Allen are in the spiritual station and he had this
51:06 beautiful process. Explain to them what you did on this
51:09 beautiful and practical. So we I wrote down different
51:13 things that someone might face in their life say like that.
51:15 >> Presha none or anxiety on any any negative emotion or
51:21 thing that we could face. And then I looked out Bible
51:24 verses and I put it down the table, too. So you pick up
51:28 something that's like like anxiousness. And there's a
51:32 Bible verse that they could pick that would offer that
51:34 would that would help heal that. And for for anything you
51:38 can think of they're God tells us he is there for a scene and
51:43 it just would without God. We're missing a lot, as you
51:47 recall, just a practical way helping people who are
51:49 Christians.
51:50 >> Realize that the Bible is full of practical ways. God
51:53 want you to be healthy. He want you to have a sound mind and to
51:56 be happy and there are principles and promises in his
52:00 word that can help to meet those practical needs. Such a
52:03 beautiful, simple way to go about. It is such a blessing.
52:06 >> Manly men meeting the needs of the people. And that's right
52:09 that we have very little time here and we're going to ask
52:13 eaten first, would you mind looking at the camera with the
52:16 little line on and say, can you say to somebody that's
52:20 wondering, should I go to court or not? What in your experience
52:24 of this? I encourage to go to court because what?
52:29 >> So for myself, the you know, there's different reasons why I
52:35 decided to come to the program. But ultimately why I came to
52:39 the program and why I'm absolutely sure that it was a
52:43 good decision was because it was a real solid opportunity
52:49 for me to on my faith, find my calling mining opportunity to
52:53 make change in the world manso.
52:56 If you're thinking, you know, I don't know what God wants me to
52:59 do, but I know God wants me to do it. Like earlier we talked
53:02 about Matthew. 28 Jesus said go therefore and make disciples of
53:06 all nations. That's a message that Jesus gave for you
53:10 personally. And core was an excellent opportunity for me to
53:14 learn how that message that Jesus give us
53:18 could be applied to my own life. Amen. Amen. How about
53:22 you, Ellen? Do you say to somebody I encourage you to go
53:24 to court to be a cause, but because it's going to change
53:28 your life. Haha, every part of your life for the better.
53:34 But I mean concise. Very alert. Yes. Well, finally, we need to
53:40 get the address again. Yeah. Would you help us with that?
53:42 Absolutely. So our website is Www dot core evangelism dot
53:47 com.
53:48 >> If people would like to give like a donation via check,
53:52 you can give online on the website. If you'd like to give
53:54 I check on you can to send the check 2 to a core CRE dash
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54:11 mailing addresses actually on the website. So if you want to
54:14 know information news, click the donate section. Should take
54:16 you there, too. If you have any issues is something we just
54:19 read on our website. You have any issues. Just e-mail us call
54:22 us. We're happy to follow up with it. If any snags show up
54:26 are happy to kind of get that sorted out. But yes, core
54:29 evangelism dot com. You can e-mail us at info at the core
54:33 of Angela was dot com and you can call us at 4, 8, 4,
54:38 232-9239, or you can text us and core is not just for young
54:43 people. That's for all adults. International students and just
54:47 a 13 week commitments and early Bird specials, $250. If you
54:51 apply by April 1st yesterday, Casper.
54:55 Somebody has a distorted picture of God, too.
54:58 What can you do to help them understand that you pictures
55:01 distorted? This is the right picture would say if there's
55:04 this sense, I was kind of the way we tell our students if the
55:07 the overall emotional picture you get when you think about
55:10 God as a friendly face and not a smiley face, you're probably
55:13 not talking about the God of Scripture. And the scriptures
55:16 teaches that Jesus in John 13 verse one heading loved his own
55:20 who are in the world. He loved them to the end. Jesus love you
55:24 to death. Literally. He thinks the world of you. He is head
55:27 over heels in love with you. And heaven was not a place to
55:30 be desired while you were lost. And so Jesus see something of
55:34 incredible value in you. And he wants you to see that to
55:38 the entire story from Genesis to revelation is the unfolding
55:42 of this story of God's desperate desire to be face to
55:46 face with you once again and what we're about at the core
55:49 programs to help people find that in scripture and had to
55:52 intelligently communicate that to the world around them.
55:55 Allen's doing that, Ethan is doing that. Multitudes of our
55:58 students are doing that today because they decided to commit
56:02 a chunk of time in their life. This is just 13 weeks, right?
56:05 Even if it's 9 months, that's a small portion of your life.
56:08 But it's invaluable because what God can do in that season
56:11 will make you so much more effective for the rest of your
56:14 life. For the kingdom is not time wasted is not interrupting
56:18 or education. It's time well spent. And then you can go
56:21 right back to school. You can go right back to your job and
56:24 keep doing what you're doing. But now with a solid mission
56:27 will focus in the tools and the confidence to do it. Well,
56:30 a man, thank you so much. Well, the that in a very
56:33 encouraging, I think
56:35 you can.
56:37 >> Say goodbye to our people that have been with us and
56:39 radio and TV. I just ask you to pray for all these young men
56:43 and women who are seeking to imitate Christ speed like
56:46 Christ and to be transferred to have that that intimate
56:51 relationship with Christ. So support core evangelism
56:55 school. So that being so young people can go out and preach
56:59 the gospel making disciples.
57:01 >> And Jesus will be backed. We'll see you next time.
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