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Series Code: TDY
Program Code: TDY220041A
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00:04 I want to spend my life
00:10 mending broken people. 00:15 I want to spend my life 00:21 removing pain. 00:26 Lord, let my words 00:31 heal a heart that hurts. 00:36 I want to spend my life 00:42 mending broken people... 00:47 I want to spend my life 00:52 mending broken people. 01:06 Hello and welcome to 3ABN Today. 01:08 My name is John Dinzey and my wife Idalia 01:10 is with me. And we are excited about this particular program 01:14 because it is a program about witnessing, Idalia. 01:18 That's right, and we're all called to "Go ye. " 01:22 Right? So I will go. 01:24 And will you join us? Will you say: "I will go" 01:28 and put into practice different ways of witnessing 01:33 to those around you in your community? 01:36 Even your own family at times, right? Um-hmm. 01:38 That's right. We have a guest that is 01:41 an active person in many ways. 01:44 So you're going to find out about this because he is 01:46 the co-founder of F5 Challenge 01:49 and also the co-founder of ARME Bible Camp. 01:52 Welcome, Dr. Calvin Kim. 01:54 Thank you so much. Great to be here with you guys. 01:56 Thank you so much. And you are Dr. because 01:59 you are in what area of medicine? I practice dentistry 02:02 in Olympia, Washington. 02:03 Excellent! Excellent! Well we're going to find out 02:05 a little bit more about Calvin 02:07 and also about the F5 Challenge. 02:11 That sounds very interesting: F5 Challenge. Um-hmm. 02:14 I know most people like a challenge. 02:16 And so we encourage you to listen carefully 02:19 and also you may want to jot down information 02:22 because you may be interested in participating 02:25 in this way of reaching out to people with the Word of God, 02:30 reaching out to people with the gospel. 02:31 Um-hmm. That's right. 02:33 Many times we hear of people that want to do something 02:35 for Jesus. "What can I do? I'm so old 02:38 or I'm so limited. " 02:41 But you know, the Lord gives different opportunities 02:44 and sometimes we need to think outside the box. 02:47 Sometimes what works with one community 02:50 doesn't work for another. 02:52 So there is a community of people 02:54 that I cannot reach but because of your skills 02:58 and your God-given talents you can reach. 03:01 So we're going to learn about how to put into practice 03:04 this gift for soul-winning. 03:07 And before we do all of that 03:09 we're going to go to the Lord in prayer. 03:10 And we want to ask you to remember to pray 03:13 for the requests, and we encourage you to join 03:16 3ABN Prayer Warrior team. 03:18 We have prayer warriors in practically... in every country 03:22 in the world. Amen! And so we just encourage you 03:25 to participate in ministry by praying for people. 03:28 And when you pray for others you are also blessed. 03:32 But for now we encourage you to join us 03:34 as we go to the Lord in prayer. 03:37 Our loving heavenly Father, 03:39 we thank you, Lord, for Your great mercy and Your kindness. 03:43 We thank you, Lord, that we can call upon You at any time 03:48 of the day. There's no time when the doors are closed 03:52 or You are out to lunch. We thank you, Lord, 03:55 that You are always available. 03:57 And we pray that as we are participating in this program 04:01 You will bless us with Your Holy Spirit. 04:03 Bless Calvin with a message that You know Your children 04:08 need to hear. We also ask for You to consider every request 04:12 that has come to 3ABN. 04:14 You know every person; You know every need. 04:17 And no need is too small, no need is too great. 04:21 And we ask You, Lord, to bring to people 04:24 that which they need most. 04:26 There are people with financial challenges. 04:29 People that are facing illnesses 04:32 and they need strength and they need healing. 04:35 We pray, Lord, that You will provide strength and healing. 04:39 Some are ready for healing now; some may need to wait. 04:41 So we pray that You will help them to continue 04:44 looking unto Jesus, the Author and Finisher of our faith. 04:48 And we ask You, heavenly Father, to be with all those 04:50 that are praying for their loved ones. 04:53 Some of them are out in the world in great danger. 04:56 We ask for Your holy angels and Your Holy Spirit to 04:58 reach out to them, protect them, 04:59 but for Your Holy Spirit to draw them back to Jesus. 05:03 We ask for a blessing for all that are listening to this 05:07 program. And we ask for all these things in the holy 05:10 and blessed name of Jesus. Amen. 05:13 Amen. Amen. 05:15 Well, we'd like to read a Bible scripture for you at this time. 05:18 And Idalia, if you will help us with the scripture reading. Yes. 05:22 III John 1:2 says: "Beloved, 05:25 I pray that you may prosper in all things 05:28 and be in health just as your soul prospers. " 05:33 Amen. Well this is the disciple/apostle John 05:38 writing a letter with a wonderful message. 05:41 And Calvin, what would you like to share about this particular 05:45 verse... why it appeals to you. 05:46 You know, I love it that... we hear God's heart speaking 05:50 to us: He wants to see us prospering. 05:53 A synonym for this is to thrive. 05:55 Yes. And He equates it right there with our spiritual 05:58 wellbeing that He wants us to be in good health. 06:00 You know, years ago I really suffered with health problems 06:04 at a young age, and it was the hardest year of my life. 06:06 But looking back it was probably the greatest blessing 06:09 because I learned a valuable lesson that a lot of people 06:11 don't learn until later on in life 06:13 and how valuable our health is. 06:14 And the reason why is for that one year 06:17 my wife was like a single mother that year. 06:19 I was checked out. I was con- sumed with my health problems. 06:22 One of my favorite quotes goes like this: 06:25 "He who has his health has 1,000 dreams or goals. 06:28 He who does not have his health has only one dream or goal 06:31 and that's focusing on trying to get better. " 06:33 And so because of that that has really lended itself 06:36 to me being very passionate about health 06:39 and I see how it correlates with our spiritual life. 06:41 Amen; amen. Well, we want to know a little bit more 06:45 about F5 Challenge. And this is going to be 06:49 very very interesting... impacting as well. Um-hmm. 06:52 And also, young people - really everybody - 06:56 that's right! everybody needs to pay close attention. 06:58 But before we get into that we do have a song 07:02 that we'd like to share with you. 07:04 An inspiring song. Idalia, can you help us with that? 07:08 We're going to have an instrumental interpretation 07:10 by Jaime Jorge. 07:13 And this is entitled El-Shaddai. 07:31 OK... if you clap you have to sing. 07:34 El-Shaddai, El-Shaddai, 07:39 El-elyon na Adonai, 07:43 Age to age You're still the same 07:48 by the power of the name. 07:52 El-Shaddai, El-Shaddai, 07:57 Erkamka na Adonai 08:02 We will praise and lift You high 08:06 El-Shaddai. 08:11 Through Your love and through the ram 08:15 You saved the son of Abraham. 08:20 And by the power of Your hand 08:25 turned the sea into dry land. 08:29 To the outcast on her knees 08:34 You were the God who really sees. 08:39 And by Your might You set Your children free. 08:47 El-Shaddai, El-Shaddai, 08:52 El-Elyon na Adonai 08:56 Age to age You're still the same 09:01 by the power of the name. 09:05 El-Shaddai, El-Shaddai, 09:10 Erkamka na Adonai 09:15 We will praise and lift You high 09:19 El-Shaddai. 09:24 Through the years You made it clear 09:28 that the time of Christ was near. 09:33 Though the people failed to see 09:37 what Messiah ought to be. 09:42 And though Your Word contained the plan 09:46 they just could not understand. 09:51 Your most awesome work was done 09:56 through the frailty of Your Son. 10:03 El-Shaddai, El-Shaddai, 10:07 El-Elyon na Adonai 10:12 Age to age You're still the same 10:16 by the power of the name. 10:22 El-Shaddai, El-Shaddai, 10:26 Erkamka na Adonai 10:30 We will praise and lift You high 10:35 El-Shaddai... 10:40 We will praise and lift You high 10:45 El-Shaddai. 10:58 Amen! Thank you very much. 11:00 That's Jaime Jorge. Loves to play the violin. 11:03 It's an instrument that speaks as well. 11:06 And we encourage you to also if you want to know more 11:10 about Jaime Jorge, you can find him easily on Facebook. 11:13 And he's a person that has a wonderful testimony as well. 11:16 I'm sure that you'll be blessed if you invite him to participate 11:20 in an event whether it be an evangelistic campaign 11:22 or just a concert you will be blessed. 11:25 He's got many wonderful stories to share as well 11:29 about the preaching of the gospel. 11:30 Talking about preaching of the gospel 11:32 we'd like to ask Calvin what would have led you to share 11:35 the gospel with others? 11:37 You know, it's good to find a lot of metaphors 11:40 about the brevity of life. 11:42 That life is to fragile and fleeting. 11:45 And as a practicing dentist 11:47 everything that I do in my office is temporary. 11:49 It's provisional. Um-hmm. 11:52 I think C. T. Studd, the missionary to China said it best 11:54 "Only one life... 'twill soon be past. 11:57 Only what's done for Christ will last. " 11:59 And so I try to keep that in the forefront 12:01 so that's a guiding principle for everything that I do. 12:04 Let's focus on the things that really truly matter 12:06 in lieu of how short life is. 12:09 Praise the Lord! 12:10 Great message! That's right. 12:12 I'd like to find out: you're co-founder of 12:16 F5 Challenge. F5? Does that mean only 5 people can participate. 12:22 What does F5 Challenge mean? 12:24 Great question. If you don't mind, I'm going to share 12:26 with you how this ministry got started. Please do! 12:28 It was never intended... I got a phone call out of the blue 12:31 in the spring of 2016 by Pastor Ron DuPreez. 12:35 He's a well-known Adventist. 12:36 A pastor, theologian, & an active runner. 12:39 People who know him they know how much he loves to run. 12:40 And because I love doing things like that 12:42 he called me out of the blue and he asked me if I wanted 12:44 to run the Grand Canyon as a fundraiser for his church. 12:47 That's a 48-mile run from South Rim to North Rim 12:50 back to the South Rim. 12:51 And when he asked me I thought: "This sounds absolutely 12:54 amazing and miserable all at the same time. " 12:57 And because I'm into this kind of thing 12:59 I knew it would take me about 4 months to train for this. 13:01 Four months! Yeah, I'm a very social person 13:03 and I live by the motto "Misery loves company. " 13:07 So the idea of just me and Pr. Ron training for this 13:10 and doing this by ourselves was not as exciting 13:12 as "Let's get other people to come in. " Right. 13:14 So I was at a conference. 13:15 I was helping to organize a certain conference 13:18 and I was talking to the volunteers 13:19 and I shared the idea with them. 13:21 And I couldn't believe how many of these young adults 13:23 wanted to come. They didn't want to run the Grand Canyon... 13:26 they just wanted to come for an adventure. 13:28 Yes. Um-hmm. A road trip... camp out. Yes. 13:31 And one of them said: "We're going to have to get in shape 13:33 for this. " They wanted to hike just a few miles 13:35 of the Grand Canyon. And that night I had an epiphany. 13:38 I thought: You know what? These young people 13:40 they want an adventure. " That's right. 13:41 "They want connection. They want to go out and do something. " 13:45 Um-hmm. And so we started brainstorming about a name. 13:48 And we're like: "Pastor Ron, want's fundraising? " Yes. 13:50 "Faith is always the basis for everything we do. That's right. 13:52 There's going to be fitness involved, so that's F3. " 13:55 Um-hmm. And then you know what we decided? 13:57 As more people got excited we're like: "People don't want 13:59 to have to fundraise to come to an event 14:01 so let's drop the fundraising. " 14:02 So the first F is faith. 14:04 Fellowship, Fitness, Fortitude, and Fun. 14:08 Which correlates with spiritual, emotional, physical, mental, 14:12 and social: the five components of human wellbeing. 14:15 And so because we want to focus on being complete as humans. 14:20 So that's where the name comes from. Excellent! I like it. 14:21 Now I like F5 Challenge! 14:24 Well, it's exciting that the Lord put that in your heart 14:27 to get other people involved. 14:29 Whenever there's something good we want to share with others. 14:32 There's a passion that drives you. 14:34 So all of a sudden you have all these people 14:37 interested in attending. I'm so glad you said that 14:42 not everybody was there to do the run. That's right. 14:45 But we all want to feel like a sense of belonging - 14:49 if I could say that word - belonging together. Yes. 14:52 And yes, that misery likes company is true! 14:57 We will take the challenge. But what does F5 make 15:01 sense in ministry today? 15:03 So that summer what we did is we set up a Facebook group? 15:07 We set up a free website and a lot of it was just 15:10 word of mouth. Yes. And so we had people that wanted 15:12 to actually start training to get in shape for this 15:14 which really was exciting for me 'cause if I can motivate 15:17 other people... Right. You know sometimes when you have a goal 15:19 it's easier to get motivated to train. 15:22 Yes. But there were two things that happened that summer 15:24 that was a real game changer for me. Um-hmm. 15:26 Now at that point I was the director of a ministry called 15:29 ARME Bible Camp. We'd bring people together. 15:31 It's all about the revival work. Right. 15:33 I met a friend of mine I hadn't seen for many years 15:37 and we had gone on a mission trip before. 15:38 She was not a Seventh-day Adventist. 15:42 Right. And I got her to go hiking with us. 15:44 On the second day of our hike she started asking us 15:47 about what we believe. 15:48 And when I dropped her off at her car - 'cause it was 15:51 parked at my house - she said to me: 15:53 "I'd like to take you up on that offer for Bible studies. " 15:55 And that was very exciting to me. Praise the Lord! 15:57 All I did was invite her to go hiking - 15:59 I didn't invite her to come to church - yes - 16:01 and now she's asking for Bible studies! Amen! 16:03 Two people that summer messaged me, and what they said 16:06 is basically: "I'm not religious... can I come? " 16:09 Um-hmm! They wanted to come to the Grand Canyon because 16:11 they heard about the adventure. Yes; right. 16:14 So I was like: "Wow! This is amazing. " 16:16 We have an Adventist get-together, and because I was 16:18 used to organizing conferences 16:20 it wasn't just come and camp out. 16:21 You know, let's have guest speakers. 16:23 Have Pastor Ron give a presentation. Right. 16:26 Let's have fellowship; let's do all these things 16:28 and then on Sunday would be the big adventure day. Right. 16:31 And so we planned this whole weekend. 16:32 And I was like: "This is so unique! " 16:34 Because being part of ARME Bible Camp - 16:37 which was a wonderful ex- perience - it's really designed 16:39 for Adventist people. Um-hmm. 16:40 Or if you're studying the Bible with someone - right - 16:42 it's really not for somebody to just invite your neighbors 16:44 to come. The same thing with many of our Camp Meetings 16:48 and our conferences in our church that are wonderful 16:50 to attend. They're really not designed to bring 16:52 non-religious people. Right. 16:53 And so anyways we had that weekend event. 16:56 Now a lot of people sometimes get intimidated by 16:59 F5 when they hear about these big adventures. 17:01 But I want to clarify that. That weekend because we had 17:04 all kinds of people coming we set up 5 different levels 17:06 of adventures. All right. One for the couch potato. 17:10 Come and hike 5-6 miles, 3 miles, whatever you want. 17:12 The next one was about 12 miles. 17:14 Another one was down all the way to the river and back up. 17:17 Thirty people participated in the rim to rim 17:20 which was just half way which is 23 miles. 17:22 Wow! And 8 people attempted the 48-mile rim to rim to rim 17:26 of which 2 got sick but 6 of us completed that run. 17:29 EXCELLENT! Wow! And when we were done 17:31 people said: "We want more! " 17:33 That's when we thought: "You know what? 17:35 Let's turn this into a ministry 17:38 'cause we can really focus on friendship evangelism. " 17:40 Um-hmm. And a place where you can actually invite 17:44 non-Adventist people - yes - to actually come and be a part 17:46 of something. This is wonderful because you have like you said 17:50 included people that are at different levels of fitness. 17:53 And some just want to do something and get out. 17:56 Because you know you talk about: "Well, 17:59 you have something for the couch potato. " 18:00 And so there are people that: "Yeah... I'll go. " 18:04 Because after a while you have to say to yourself 18:06 "How much... how long can you be a couch potato? " 18:09 Eventually you'll listen to the Holy Spirit's voice 18:13 and get off that couch and go out and do something. 18:15 So this is wonderful. And so we kind of have heard you 18:19 already but can you tell us what the goal... What is the 18:23 goal? It appears to be it's not just health. 18:27 But also how would you put it in a nutshell? 18:31 The ministry is all about friendship evangelism. 18:35 Years ago I discovered how powerful friendship evangelism 18:38 is, and I wanted to share a quick story. 18:40 I like to join the local running groups in my city. 18:43 And sometimes when I go there's always a new person 18:45 who kind of showed up for the first time. They don't really 18:46 know anyone. So I like to go towards those people. 18:49 There was a young man, and his name was Charlie Rocket. 18:53 And he was a very fast runner. 18:55 One of the things that every runner wants to do 18:57 is become a faster runner. 18:58 No runner ever said: "You know what? I'm too fast. " 19:01 Everybody wants to be able to run faster or run longer. 19:03 So I said: "Charlie, will you help me to become 19:05 a faster runner? " Oh wow! 19:07 And so we quickly became friends. 19:08 Anyways I said: "You know we're going hiking. " 19:11 And I invited him to go hiking with me with my church group. 19:14 But because of the timing and the location 19:16 I went on a whim and I said: 19:19 "You know what? It'd be easier if you came to church with me 19:21 and then go hiking. " 19:22 And he agreed. Oh, wonderful! 19:24 Not too long afterward he sent me this e-mail: 19:27 "A dear and wonderful friend of mine who's not even in the 19:30 church recommended that I confess to you 19:31 the depression that I can't work through. 19:33 Training and helping people being the encouraging coach 19:36 is probably the only thing that is keeping me sane. 19:38 While I know I can help you succeed 19:40 I am fighting a mental illness that admitting 19:41 would even shame my wife. 19:43 I can't help you if I'm not a model for your own success. 19:46 I want to support you so much. 19:48 I've been bragging to my friends how I met this wonderful 19:50 individual whose life I can help change. 19:52 I think I need to be in your church. 19:54 Wow! Maybe I shouldn't be telling you this. 19:56 The suicide helpline guy was a disaster. 19:58 Can I confide in you without being judged? 20:01 I feel your church and you might be the only ones 20:03 that I can confide in. 20:05 But I don't know where to turn except the church. 20:06 Your congregation - even for one day - helped keep me alive. " 20:10 Wow! "I'm sorry to unload this on you 20:11 because you wanted a running buddy and have inherited 20:13 a suicide. " He was apologizing 20:17 and I was praising God that God allowed me to cross paths 20:20 with this young man who was realizing his need for Jesus 20:23 in his life. And so I just share this story 20:25 to underscore the power of friendship evangelism. Amen! 20:29 And so that's what we're all about. 20:31 Our internal motto... We say internal because we don't 20:33 advertise this publicly... is fitness for witness. 20:36 Using our fitness and our health that God has given us 20:38 to make connections with other people. 20:41 Because the thing is that when you have something in common: 20:44 a shared hobby or passion or even a shared experience 20:48 together it will forge an instant connection. 20:51 That's right. And I found that having something in common 20:53 will bypass cultural barriers - 20:56 yes - age barriers... social, economic, 20:58 all the different barriers and instantly it will form a bond. 21:02 And so that's one of the primary purposes 21:05 of what F5 is all about. 21:08 You have people coming and they're coming because 21:10 they want to go hiking. 21:11 They want to go rock climbing or some of the activities 21:14 that we're doing or biking or stand-up paddle boarding. 21:17 And the thing is when they come 21:18 you know once you are engaging in activity you kind of 21:21 just let down your guard. Yes. 21:22 And I like to think of it as a spiritual Trojan horse. 21:25 OK. We want to disarm people 21:27 'cause they're not coming thinking oh we're going to start 21:30 thumping them over the head with a Bible. Right. 21:32 Now they know we're a Christian organization - 21:34 right - which is why they'll be like: "You know I'm not 21:36 religious but can I come? " And we're like: "Yes! 21:39 Of course, come. " And they come and what they find is 21:41 "You know, these people: they're not drinking. 21:43 They're not gambling. They're not doing these things 21:45 but they're having such a good time! 21:47 Like who are these people? " 21:48 And later I'll share some testimonies 21:50 that come out of our ministry. 21:52 Praise the Lord! You know, Idalia, I was... 21:55 The first... It's like the Lord put all this together 22:00 the first one that you did - Yeah - 22:02 to let you know: "Calvin, this is something 22:07 that transforms lives and you need to move forward 22:09 with this. " I mean, how many did you say 22:12 joined you on the first one? 22:14 So it was five months just word of mouth 22:16 and 110 people showed up at the Grand Canyon. 22:17 So it was word of mouth. There were no posters 22:20 in different places... there were no ads. 22:21 Facebook and some little stuff we're doing on Facebook mostly. 22:25 Excellent! Praise the Lord! 22:26 I'm pretty sure you're asking yourself at home 22:28 "How can I get involved? " Sometimes we feel limited. 22:32 We cannot climb but you know what? 22:34 We can just support an activity by providing water 22:39 or if you have a passion for cooking then 22:42 you can provide the meals. And there's always a place 22:45 for you in God's work - that's right - so don't be discouraged. 22:48 Be encouraged because the Lord is giving you 22:51 a unique opportunity to reach out to people. 22:55 Calvin, what do you think draws people to your ministry 22:59 F5 Challenge? Great question! 23:01 You know, it's because loneliness is an epidemic. 23:05 People are lonely. Today people are tied behind their 23:07 phone screens, computer screens, and people want 23:10 genuine face-to-face connection. Yes! 23:13 I'll share a quick testimony. Please do. 23:43 This former Adventist is now fully committed 23:46 back in the church and now active in ministry. 23:48 I'll share one more testimony. 23:50 "What F5 means to me? A lifeline. 23:53 Initially joining F5 was a fun activity 23:55 adventure group as I enjoy the outdoors 23:57 and this provided a great group to join 23:59 and fun adventures with a Christ-centered attitude. 24:01 This connected me back to wanting and nurturing 24:03 my relationship with God as it had waned for 20+ years. 24:07 Now these adventures have morphed to "evangeliving. " 24:10 It's a word for living a life of evangelism 24:13 which just brings more joy and gratitude 24:15 as I look for ways to serve and brings souls to Christ. " 24:18 Amen! It's just an example of people 24:20 they're just looking for relationships. 24:23 They're not interested in spiritual things 24:24 and at this time it's timing. 24:26 At this time if you start presenting and trying to 24:28 you know thump them over the head with a Bible 24:30 they may not be interested. But they are interested in 24:31 engaging with people, and slowly what we do is 24:34 use this to... I like to think of it like 24:37 a spiritual Trojan horse 24:39 to disarm people. Yes. 24:42 And then once they're down and they're open... 24:44 And you know, there's a Framingham study 24:46 that goes like this: the people that you hang out with - 24:48 the 3 or 4 people that you hang out with - 24:50 there's a 50% chance you're going to become like 24:52 the people you hang out with. 24:54 If you hang out with people who play video games all day, 24:56 there's a change you're going to become a video game player. 24:57 That's right. But you hang out with happy active fit Christians 25:01 who are outdoors having a good time 25:02 there's a good chance that you're going to want to become 25:05 like that. Amen. That's right! That's right! 25:07 This is definitely something that will interest a lot of 25:11 university-age young adults to do. 25:15 And of course, adults alike. It's an activity for everyone. 25:18 And that is the beauty of ministry: 25:21 that you can reach people of different walks of life. 25:25 That's right. One thing I wanted to say also 25:27 is that the Lord has used you to initiate 25:32 this ministry F5 Challenge but also you work as a team. 25:37 It sounds like you become a family... 25:40 an intimate group of people that you're there for each other. 25:44 And there's not a better place that people feel 25:48 you know like "You care about me. " 25:51 "You give me your time. " 25:52 You know, time is more valuable than money at times 25:56 because nobody gives you the time. But here you are 26:00 with this ministry. It's a very personal ministry - 26:02 that's right - so the Lord bless your ministry. 26:05 I'd like to see some pictures. 26:07 We like to see pictures... that's right. 26:08 Great. Yeah, some of these 26:11 are pictures from some of our active events. OK. 26:13 Every year we do one flagship large event 26:16 but almost every month there are events going on. 26:19 So if you go on our Facebook group 26:21 click on events and you'll see events coming. 26:23 This was one of our largest group events. Wow! 26:25 Now, why do people want to come? Another reason why is 26:28 we're going to places like Yosemite Half Dome. 26:31 Lake Tahoe... that's Lake Tahoe. 26:32 Joshua Tree; the Grand Tetons. 26:35 Wow! We go to places that people actually want to go to. 26:37 Yes. When I was a part of ARME Bible Camp 26:39 the way we draw people to come in is with big-name speakers, 26:42 right? People want to hear the speakers. 26:44 Well at our event they're coming because they all want to 26:46 go see Zion National Park. Amen. 26:49 So the place becomes part of the drawing of the attraction. 26:53 The fellowship as well. 26:55 And you have people coming from different aspects 26:58 or different places but they join together 27:01 and then they form a bond. 27:03 They get to know one another 27:04 and the relationship continues after the event. 27:08 You know, we talk a lot about fellowship in the church, right? 27:11 Right. So when you go to a lot of these conferences 27:13 they're wonderful. But you know what you do? 27:15 You sit in seminars all-day long. And if you're social 27:18 when you're in line for meals you might get to meet and talk 27:20 and mingle with people. Right. But if you're not and you're shy 27:23 you may not. What we did is we decided 27:25 let's have less meetings and more interactive activities 27:28 as some of these pictures will highlight 27:29 some of the things that we do at our events 27:31 where before our meetings we do a lot of icebreakers. 27:35 Breaking up into groups you're making friends. 27:38 Yes. Constantly going outdoors and doing things. 27:42 There's nothing like... You go on a hike with people 27:44 you don't know for 2-3 hours 27:45 and you naturally just become friends with each other. Yes. 27:47 So if you come to a F5 event 27:49 you will leave with minimum 10-20, 30 new friends. 27:52 Um-hmm. So do you have? Have you noticed 27:55 in these events that you've participated in 27:58 that as people are walking or running 28:02 they help one another along the way? 28:05 All the time... all the time. 28:06 So glad you asked about this. 28:08 So a young man was invited to come 28:10 who has muscular dystrophy? 28:13 He's in a wheelchair - oh wow - since he was 15 years old. 28:16 So you can imagine how difficult life becomes 28:18 when you're diagnosed with muscular dystrophy. 28:20 He married the woman of his dreams 28:22 and many years later she left him because he was 28:25 no longer the man that she had married. 28:27 And they had a child together. 28:29 And so in his 30's you can imagine 28:32 he was in a very very dark place in his life. Yes. 28:35 He came, and when he came his sister asked before he came 28:38 were there any hikes that we could take him on 28:40 in a wheelchair. And when I looked into it 28:42 at Zion National Park there were some paved trails 28:44 you could take disabled people on. 28:46 But I thought: "Let's do something spectacular for this 28:48 young man. " And I said to my team: 28:50 "What if we take him to the top of Angels Landing? " 28:52 So Angels Landing is one of the most famous hikes 28:55 in the world. Probably one of the top 10 most famous hikes 28:57 but it's also considered one of the top 10 most dangerous 28:59 hikes in the world - oh wow! because 29:00 there are cliffs literally on the side, that drop off. 29:03 Wow! Our team is made up... We've got 29:05 rock climbers, and so you know we said: "Let's take him up 29:07 there. " So we put him in the wheelchair 29:09 and we wheeled him up as far as we could go. 29:11 And once we got to a point where we could no longer 29:14 push him, using harness, ropes, carabiners clipping in 29:18 we carried him. Took turns carrying him all the way 29:21 to the top of Angels Landing. That is marvelous! 29:24 The day before when we were doing our practice 29:26 hike when we took him up to a certain spot 29:29 as soon as we sat him down he just had tears coming down. 29:32 Wow! Because it had been years since 29:35 he ever got to experience something like this. 29:37 We weren't expecting this but it made the news. 29:39 It even made Inside Edition. 29:41 It became a big deal. 29:43 Wow! Now this completely changed his life 29:47 to find that these people cared so much to do this for him. 29:50 Amen! And now he's one of our team members. 29:52 He's active in ministry. Loves the Lord. Amen! 29:55 And even though he can't move well physically 29:58 he knows that he can be used by God 29:59 to move peoples' hearts and minds. Amen! 30:02 And so it's a beautiful story. 30:03 But another thing I want to highlight about the story is 30:05 we had a team of 32 people to accomplish this. 30:09 There are people on our team who have a legitimate fear 30:11 of heights. Oh wow! Yes? 30:13 OK. I mean... even people... there's cliffs on both sides. 30:16 Yes. But you know, during the entire adventure or experience 30:20 I cannot recall one person 30:22 who mentioned or made any comment about their fear 30:25 of height. And why is that? 30:27 It's because everybody was focused on taking Shue 30:30 to the top. 30:31 And you know I think it's just a great analogy 30:35 for our Christian walk. Um-hmm. 30:36 You know, we're inundated with worries and anxiety. 30:39 But when we focus our attention on helping others 30:41 reach heaven, so many of the things that we worry about 30:45 are so trivial and insignificant 30:47 that we can forget about them. 30:49 So the focus I think is helping others to reach their goals. 30:52 You know, this is wonderful. You mentioned that 30:55 people that are not necessarily Christians or Adventists - 30:59 SDAs - join you and they go ahead and participate 31:05 in this even though they know I'm participating 31:07 with a Christian group of people. 31:09 So it's not like they are going to say: "I had no idea 31:12 you guys were going to talk about Jesus Christ. 31:14 I'm just disappointed. " But no... they are aware. 31:17 They know about this but they still come. 31:19 Yes. I'll tell you about one gal. She's a dentist. 31:22 She just saw the story on the news and she went: 31:24 "Who are these people? I want to be a part of them. " Awesome! 31:27 And then she actually came to one of our main events. 31:29 And sometimes she'll message me 31:30 because she's got health problems and she'll be asking me 31:32 for prayer and I share it with the team. 31:34 And so it's incredible just the people who want to be a part 31:37 of this. So what's the best part of F5? 31:40 Hands down it's the relationships. 31:43 Yes. You know, you could give me a free first-class ticket 31:46 to Fiji by myself - um-hmm. 31:48 I'd rather be in the desert with all my friends. 31:50 Right? Oh yes. And so it's really the relationships. 31:53 Coming together and having a mission together. 31:56 Something greater than just serving ourselves. 31:59 Right? This world is all about me, me, me 32:02 and here we're coming together. 32:03 And so you know in addition to these adventures 32:05 we do mission trips. Yes! Peru. One of our teams just 32:09 did a whole thing on health for a Camp Meeting. 32:12 And so we do a lot of different activities. 32:14 The overall big picture is we want to use the blessings 32:18 that God has given us to be a blessing to others. 32:21 In Desire of Ages, it says speaking of Jesus: 32:23 "From His earliest years, He was possessed of one purpose: 32:26 He lived to bless others. " Yes! 32:28 And as followers of Jesus that's our purpose in life: 32:31 to be a blessing to other people. Yes! 32:33 I want to read one quote from the Spirit of Prophecy. 32:35 Please do. From Evangelism page 122.4. It says: 32:50 And when I came across this I said: "Wow! " 32:52 This is what F5 was. We hadn't planned this to be a ministry. 32:55 But you know what? It's kind of different and out 32:57 of the common course of things. 32:59 Another quote that I really love about Jesus' methods 33:03 'cause He was a master evangelist. 33:04 He knew how to reach people, right? That's right. 33:06 And it says: "Jesus found access to minds 33:09 by the pathway of the most familiar associations. 33:12 He disturbed as little as possible 33:14 their accustomed train of thoughts by abrupt actions 33:16 or prescribed rules. He honored man with His 33:19 confidence and thus placed him on his honor. " 33:21 Just not too long ago 33:23 I was at the recycling place throwing my cardboard. 33:26 There was a man with a Boston Marathon finisher's jacket. 33:29 Oh! I knew exactly what that jacket meant. 33:31 It meant he finished the Boston Marathon. Right. 33:33 And I just walked by and I said: "Hey, 33:35 great job on the Boston Marathon. " 33:37 He lit up - of course - 33:39 and instantly he was like my best friend sharing stories. 33:41 That's all it took. We had some- thing in common. That's right. 33:44 And at the end I had a Great Controversy in my car. 33:47 It's one of my favorite books to hand out. 33:48 I handed this book to him. I'll probably never see him again 33:50 but who knows? We made a connection. 33:52 I got to give him a Great Controversy. 33:53 Who knows? Only in heaven will we know. 33:56 That's right. Ours is just to sow seeds 33:58 and share the love of Jesus. Um-hmm! 34:00 So the 5F Challenge... Maybe somebody has just joined 34:03 in and they're "Wow! What is this F5 34:05 when we hear F5? " Can you tell us again what F5 is. 34:09 So... the five F's. 34:12 So the first F is faith. 34:14 Second is fellowship. 34:16 Fitness, fortitude, and fun. 34:19 It's easy to remember because the second letter is a vowel: 34:21 A, E, I, O, U. 34:22 So it correlates with the spiritual, which is 34:24 most important. Emotional... fellowship. 34:27 That's what fellowship does. Yes. 34:28 And then fitness... our physical wellbeing. 34:31 Fortitude... we want to challenge people 34:34 to get out of that status quo. Right? Yes. 34:36 And that's what happens when people come to the event. 34:38 They may be a couch potato but they're seeing people 34:40 literally running through the night doing a 48-mile run. 34:42 And they might not shoot for that, but they might 34:44 be like: "You know what? Next time maybe I'll shoot for 34:46 the 10-mile hike. " Yes... right. 34:48 And so we want to inspire people. 34:49 And then the last one is social. So that's fun. 34:53 You know, God created us to be social. 34:55 And so one of the things when you come to our events 34:56 is we want to have a fun time 34:58 but use that for the purpose of winning souls. 35:01 That's right. Praise the Lord! 35:03 Do you have more pictures to share with us? 35:05 Yeah, let's pull up some more pictures that we have on there. 35:08 So, after we took him - Shue - on the Zion hike... 35:14 Yes? We took him on his first half marathon. 35:17 And we took someone else who had muscular dystrophy? 35:19 I like to think we could become like the Make-A-Wish Foundation. 35:22 Make peoples' adventure dreams come true. 35:25 And when Shue asked: "Hey, I'd like to go rock climbing. " 35:28 Well if you want to go rock climbing, the most famous place 35:31 to go rock climbing in the world is El Capitan. 35:33 So we said: "Let's take him to El Capitan. " 35:35 And so we climbed about 500' of El Capitan with him 35:38 and we had a special electric ascend. Obviously 35:40 we can't physically... It's kind of hard to climb with him. 35:42 We had a special electric ascendive device 35:45 that we used to haul him up there 35:47 and so we gave him... And it's breathtaking! 35:48 When you're on El Cap - yes! the famous rock 35:50 and just seeing... It was one of the most incredible experiences. 35:54 You know what? I love rock climbing, 35:56 but there's something special about giving somebody else 35:58 who would never be able to have the opportunity. 36:01 That's right! An unforgettable experience 36:04 for a person like that. Yes. 36:06 Well... I was going to say 36:09 when we help those that cannot help themselves 36:13 it is so rewarding to our faith, to our daily walk. 36:19 And you know, there are folks that just cannot do it. 36:22 It may not be that they want to go up El Capitan 36:26 but that they just need... Their needs are so 36:30 peculiar. So please: let's take time to 36:33 know the people around us and let's be humble 36:37 and ask the Lord to use us to serve and fulfill the needs 36:41 of the people around us. 36:42 Because that is ready and well available to everyone. 36:47 So these pictures... you know a picture says a million words. 36:51 Right? So these experiences really are heart-moving. 36:56 Now what are the biggest challenges that F5 faces 37:01 as a ministry? I'm so glad you asked. 37:03 So the best way to join F5 is to join the Facebook group. 37:06 It's called F5 Challenge members 37:08 and you press if you want to join. 37:09 And anyone is welcome to join. 37:11 Um-hmm. And it's really for all ages. 37:14 We have one 2-year-old little baby kid coming with 37:16 their family. It doesn't matter what age you are 37:19 since we want to be all things to all people. 37:21 Yes. But the big challenge is when someone joins 37:23 a lot of Seventh-day Adventists grew up in a bubble 37:25 where all their friends were Seventh-day Adventists. Yeah. 37:28 You see this very commonly because you know what? 37:31 You'll see people posting on their Facebook wall 37:33 as if all their friends are Seventh-day Adventist. 37:36 That's right. But that's not the case. That's right. 37:38 When you post something on Facebook you need to be 37:39 very careful because you may have a co-worker 37:42 or a relative who's not Seventh-day Adventist 37:44 and they're reading what you're writing. That's true. 37:45 And so the thing is that 37:47 we want to feel gracious with people. 37:49 And you know, today we live in such a divisive world. 37:52 Satan is good... he's been doing it since 37:54 the beginning: divide and conquer. 37:56 I mean there are so many divisive issues 37:58 that when you post your position on a certain topic 38:01 you may gain favor with 50% of your friends 38:03 and the other 50% you just lost credibility with them. 38:06 Exactly. So one of my biggest things is 38:08 trying to get people to under- stand about how to be engaged 38:11 in friendship evangelism. 38:12 So one of the challenges is they just come on 38:15 and they just assume that we're an SDA group 38:17 and everybody's Seventh-day Adventist. 38:18 I like to tell people we're like Pathfinders for all ages. 38:21 That's right! BUT when they come on there and they're posting 38:25 comments and stuff - uh huh - and you know we as SDA's 38:28 have a beautiful sub culture but it's a strong sub culture. 38:31 Oh yeah. And so the thing is 38:33 some of us don't realize that. 38:35 And sometimes we can come across looking pretty strange and weird 38:39 to the rest of the world. 38:40 That's right. Sometimes we have to delete comments - 38:42 yes - which would be totally normal amongst us - right - 38:46 but you know when we've got... On our Facebook group 38:48 I'm inviting my friends who are rock climbers from the gym 38:51 and my running group 'cause I'm taking them on adventures. 38:53 They want to be on the group because they want to see 38:55 the pictures afterward - yes - and they make friends. 38:57 Right. You know, I've got friends. Before joining F5 39:00 they may have never known a single Seventh-day Adventist. 39:02 There's a gal I met in the airport. 39:05 She overheard me talking. 39:07 She came up to me and started talking. 39:08 And we connected instantly because we were both into 39:10 triathlon. She's been to a number of our events. 39:13 Amen! And the thing is she's got 20, 30 SDA friends. 39:18 That's wonderful! That's great! Yes! 39:20 However, sometimes we may say things. 39:22 And so my thing is is when I get a platform 39:24 like being here which is a HUGE blessing 39:27 where I can really share with an audience 39:29 to let them know what F5 is really about... 'cause I cannot 39:31 share this on our Facebook group - right - 39:33 because we've got all these people who are non-believers 39:35 on there. That's right. And so the thing is 39:37 that we don't want them to know it. 39:39 Like for example, a well- meaning SDA might put on there 39:42 Fitness for Witness. I'm like No, No, No... 39:44 that's our internal motto. 39:45 That's not what we advertise publicly. 39:47 First and foremost, it's all about making connections. 39:51 Right. And so that's one of the things. 39:53 And we want everyone to know 'cause from the outside 39:55 some people think this is just a group of SDA's 39:58 who just get together and all they do is have fun. 40:00 Um-hmm. You know what I mean? Right. 40:01 But we have a deeper purpose than just having fun - 40:03 That's right - for the purpose of making connections. 40:06 So I'll share an example of a testimony. 40:09 Please do. This gal... she was just a climber in my gym. 40:12 A rock climber. And I invited her to come 40:14 with us to one of our big events. 40:18 Now she was driving with us. We had a long road trip 40:21 and within just a few hours of course the conversation 40:25 turned into between her and one of our very well-meaning 40:27 members about why you should eat meat and why you shouldn't 40:30 eat meat. Now can you imagine? 40:32 I'm just kind of like: "Uhhh. " 40:34 You know, when you give someone Bible studies 40:37 which is something I'm passionate about doing 40:38 that's a topic we talk about towards the end, right? Right. 40:41 NOT one of the first topics. 40:43 But you know it's a topic that you know 40:46 our church often with good intentions 40:49 you know gravitates towards quickly. Right. 40:51 And I'm just literally like wanting to just disappear 40:54 in my chair, you know what I mean? Yes. But anyway, 40:56 she had a great time. 40:57 She came back to another event and then she just sent me this 41:00 message. And she said: 41:27 Praise the Lord! And like this just sums it up. 41:29 You know, it would be very difficult for me to say this 41:31 to somebody in my rock climbing gym: "How would you like to go 41:33 to church with me? " Exactly. You like people to go church... 41:35 especially where I come from in the Northwest 41:37 it's a very secular area. 41:39 Right. As soon as they know you're a Christian, sometimes 41:42 there is already kind of this guard up there, right? 41:45 But instead: "Hey, come out and have fun with us. " 41:47 'Cause I had invited her to go hiking 41:48 and so she had warmed up. She came to our event 41:50 and so you know... 41:52 That's right. This just kind of sums up. 41:54 Is F5 Challenge one event a year and that's it? 42:00 Or is there more? 42:01 Our main flagship event is once a year. 42:04 It's usually towards the end of the Summer 42:06 or beginning of the Fall but every month we have events. 42:09 OK. And any member can put on their own event. 42:11 For example let's just say you join. 42:14 And you go: "You know, I'm going to be backpacking 42:16 in Yosemite for 3 days. Who wants to come join me? " 42:18 And you can set it up right on our Facebook group 42:20 'cause you just click a tab. Any member can. 42:22 So there's local events coming on. There's big events 42:25 coming on. There's mission trips going on. 42:26 We do service activities. 42:28 What we want to do is because on our FaceBook group 42:31 there's about probably about 4,800 members. 42:33 Wow! We want this to be a platform. 42:36 So like Build and Restore Intl. I know they've been on here 42:38 interviewed. Where they need people for their mission trips 42:41 they advertise on our group and say: "Hey look! " 42:43 So we want to have... Let's mobilize these young adults 42:48 who are healthy and happy and who want to use their gifts 42:52 that God has given them for service. Um-hmm. 42:54 And so that's another thing that we want to do with our 42:56 ministry is a surplus of people who can go on mission trips? 43:00 Idalia said something earlier that I'd like for our... 43:03 those that are listening to consider. You know 43:07 this... your group, they have a passion for the outdoors 43:11 and climbing and hiking and even running. 43:17 But perhaps somebody that is listening 43:21 has a passion for another area. 43:23 And she said: "You can turn that into ministry. " 43:26 So ask the Lord how you can turn that which you like to do 43:30 into a ministry. Because you put that quote 43:34 and you read it that said that we need to find new, 43:38 unusual, and unique ways to reach out to others. 43:42 And F5 Challenge is something unique 43:45 but it's for everyone. So you don't have... is it? 43:49 It's not only for single people? 43:50 It's for everybody, is that right? It's for all ages. 43:53 All ages. Now we get a lot of single people coming 43:56 'cause it's a great way for the single adults to meet 43:57 other single people. We've even had couples get married! 44:00 Yeah, what a great place! Know what I mean? 44:03 So it's not a singles only and it's not a singles retreat 44:05 but we definitely get a lot of singles who are coming. 44:07 I love what you said because 44:09 you know some people love quilting. 44:11 They love gardening. 44:12 So find what you love to do 44:14 and use that to connect with people. 44:16 So I just love how you underscored that. 44:18 Amen! Amen! Well, what is the best way to get involved? 44:23 The best way: One is you can check out our website 44:26 which is F5Challenge.org - OK - 44:28 but the best way really is just join our Facebook group. 44:31 Now I understand some people are not on Facebook group 44:34 but we found Facebook group to be the best because it's very 44:36 interactive. People can go to an event & then post their pictures 44:39 and then the friends that they met are commenting. 44:41 And you can constantly see your friends that you met 44:44 and stay in touch through Facebook 44:46 and the next time you go too. 44:47 There are some people who have told me the only reason why 44:50 they're on Facebook is because of F5 Challenge. 44:52 Look at that! 'Cause so much of what's on social media is 44:55 negative. Right. You get constant complaining 44:58 and divisive issues. Yes. When you go on our F5 Challenge 45:01 there's nothing but positivity. Excellent! 45:03 We don't talk about the things that are divisive. 45:04 It's all about fitness... encouraging one another. 45:07 People put up inspiring stories. 45:09 And so it encourages people, yeah. That's wonderful. 45:14 Where do you see your ministry let's say in five years? 45:18 You know just recently it's really starting to take off 45:20 with people and so we want to continue doing this. 45:23 We love the mission projects aspects of this. 45:26 There's so much need out there. 45:28 There are people who are struggling, 45:30 and so even on a one-day project we'll go to someone's house 45:32 and just help them. And so we want to continue to see this 45:36 growing and we want to see it growing in other parts of the 45:38 world as well. It's starting to pop up in other places 45:40 of the world. OK. So you have your European chapter? 45:44 Your different chapters of the ministry? 45:46 All over the world. Exactly. 45:48 So you say we... how many people form like a core group 45:52 of team members that are part of the organizing 45:55 and planning for these events? OK. 45:59 We have a team of about 25-30 on our team. 46:02 And we have a board; we're a legitimate 501c3. 46:05 I stepped down last November. I've got so much on my plate 46:09 so I'm on the board and I work with the new director. 46:11 We have a new director, Rolando Fulgencio, 46:13 who's doing an amazing job. 46:15 And the thing is: after being a director for 5 years 46:17 sometimes it's good to have new leadership come in. Yes! 46:19 So while I'm still actively in- volved, he's got amazing vision. 46:23 And now what he's done is he's brought in a whole 46:26 new set of leaders to join our existing team. 46:29 Excellent. And so right now we're in the works, 46:30 and I don't know what the exact number is, but our team 46:32 has probably almost doubled or tripled at this point. 46:35 Amen! Because there's something about when you bring someone in 46:39 and they have buy-in and they're part of the team - 46:42 leadership team - they're more active. 46:44 And so yeah, we're excited about the future. 46:47 You've had so many activities and meetings. 46:51 So many folks. There has to be one that stands out the most. 46:57 Not your favorite but one that has marked your life. 47:00 Which one has that been? 47:03 Hands down for me it was the Zion National Park 47:06 adventure. OK. Not only was it the most beautiful place 47:09 to be and the people had such an amazing experience. 47:11 It was really... I've been on a lot of incredible adventures, 47:15 and of all the adventures that I've done there was nothing 47:19 like taking Shue to the top of Angels Landing. Wow! 47:22 The people in the park had mostly all heard about it 47:26 and it was just abuzz. We weren't expecting this. 47:29 Just a funny story. You know, the tourists there 47:32 are seeing this, right? Yes. I mean it's crazy. 47:35 we're literally carrying... They're getting out of the way 47:37 and we're carrying him all the way to the top. 47:38 You've gotta imagine how much work that is. 47:40 Yes. Every 500 ft. or so... 47:42 300 ft. we'd swap and take turns. 47:44 And so the people are seeing this. Now 47:46 one of our directors was getting married the next week. 47:49 OK. So I told him: "Why don't you bring your 47:52 tuxedo and your wedding outfit 47:53 and go to the top and take wedding pictures? " 47:55 Which they did. And so I heard the rumor was 47:57 "there's a wedding at the top of Zion National Park 48:00 and their friends had to get their disabled friend to the top 48:03 to get to the wedding. " That was fun! 48:05 But the thing is truly that was life-changing for a lot of us. 48:08 Yes. That was the most amazing experience 48:11 for me personally. Amen! Amen! How encouraging! 48:14 How encouraging! Well I do pray God's blessing 48:19 over your ministry and I pray for you at home as well. 48:23 I know you want to be used by the Lord 48:25 and what a privilege to be able to listen to how the Lord 48:30 is using a peculiar ministry, a peculiar way of reaching 48:33 to others and fulfill the needs... not only physical 48:37 but emotional and mental and spiritual needs 48:41 of those around us. 48:43 And those that we have not met yet, right? That's right. 48:47 So the Lord will bring those people to your group. 48:51 The important thing is to have a purpose. 48:53 That's right. And we're going to share the contact information 48:56 for the F5 Challenge group in a moment, so please get ready. 49:00 As I said before if you don't have a pen or something 49:03 or if your pen all of a sudden fails, try to get your phone 49:05 or something and take a picture of the screen if you can. 49:08 But there are people listening on radio, so we encourage you 49:11 to record... you can even record what we are saying 49:14 so that you can have the information you need 49:17 to get in touch with the F5 Challenge and participate 49:22 and encourage people to do something like this. 49:26 This is marvelous. And you even said that 49:29 members can organize their own event. 49:32 Have you seen that happening? All the time! 49:34 All the time? You know, we have two types of people, right? 49:37 Some people are just naturally leaders - 49:38 right - but the majority are followers. 49:40 But the ones who lead set up an event 49:42 and they'll do it over and over again. 49:44 And it's fun. It's very rewarding to set up an event 49:46 and have people come. And so, yeah... 49:49 And we are all about mentoring other people 49:51 and encouraging them. And sometimes they just need 49:52 to be asked. Like: "Hey, why don't you do this? " 49:54 "Why don't you lead a group and go do this? " 49:56 And all of a sudden: "Oh, I was asked! " 50:00 Yes!. And they're inspired to do that. Excellent! 50:02 This is marvelous! This is a wonderful opportunity 50:04 and I am glad that you know when you mentioned this 50:07 you said that even couch potatoes joined. 50:10 And you know, there's also the different aspects 50:15 of an event that: "Hey, maybe you can't go the full 50:17 distance. You can do part. " Right. And I like that 50:21 because you were giving many people an opportunity 50:25 because not everybody can do like for example you said 50:29 48 miles but they can do part of it. 50:32 You know, they can do a little bit of it. 50:33 So this is great. Yes, he did mention you could do 50:35 two miles, three miles, eight, you know. Yes. 50:38 The important thing is to take a step forward. 50:41 That's right. That's for everyone. That's right. 50:44 Well, our time is just about up for this segment. 50:47 And this has been a marvelous marvelous experience. 50:50 Calvin has many things more to share. 50:52 And we are going to take a break and share the contact info 50:58 so that everyone that wants to take part 51:03 and know more about F5 Challenge can get the info you need. 51:08 Also, they may even want to know: "Hey, how... how do I get 51:13 started with something like this? " 51:15 Have you had any invitations for example to churches 51:18 to share about some of these experiences? 51:20 Absolutely. Any opportunity we get 51:22 we try do our best to accommodate them. 51:24 We've been able to go to like Holbrook Indian School 51:26 and do a whole weekend event for the students there. 51:29 As I mentioned, we had a team that was just at the Penn. Conf. 51:33 Camp Meeting putting on a whole event. 51:35 We were just at the NAD their called conference. 51:38 Yes. Six thousand attendees 51:40 and we were putting on the exercise segment for them, 51:42 morning exercises. And so, yeah, something that we love to do. 51:45 Excellent. Well we'll be back in just a moment. |
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