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00:03 we're living in unprecedented times. 00:05 Join us now for today's special program. 00:12 I want to spend my life 00:18 mending broken people. 00:23 I want to spend my life 00:29 removing pain. 00:34 Lord, let my words 00:39 heal a heart that hurts. 00:44 I want to spend my life 00:50 mending broken people... 00:55 I want to spend my life 01:00 mending broken people. 01:14 Hello and welcome to another 3ABN Today program. 01:17 We're so glad that you've joined us today. 01:19 You know, we always look forward to spending this 01:21 one hour with you each and every day. 01:23 And thank you so very much 01:24 for allowing us into your living room. 01:26 Or maybe you're driving the car and looking straight ahead, 01:29 right? down the road and listening to 3ABN Radio. 01:32 We're just so glad you are part of the 3ABN family. 01:35 And we just thank you so much for your prayers 01:37 and financial support for the ministry of 3ABN. 01:40 Because it's because of you 01:42 that we are able to get this gospel around the world. 01:44 And you're making a difference in somebody's life for eternity. 01:48 Isn't that an incredible thought? 01:50 You're making a difference in someone's life 01:52 for eternity. Praise the Lord for that. 01:54 But we have an exciting program today, don't we? 01:56 Looking forward to... oh, I don't know... spending time 01:58 with our family. Can I say that? Absolutely! 02:01 I always love the Today program - me too! 02:02 because we get to feature testimonies and ministries 02:05 and see what God is doing in and through the lives 02:08 of individuals and ministries all over the world. 02:11 And we have... I was going to say... one of the oldest 02:14 television ministries. But this does not mean that 02:17 the people here on this set are old. Yeah! No. 02:19 OK, we just want to make that clear right off the bat. 02:21 So we have Pastor Shawn Boonstra 02:23 and his beautiful wife Jean. 02:25 Shawn, of course, is the speaker/director 02:27 for Voice of Prophecy and his wife Jean is Assoc. Speaker. 02:30 And we're just so delighted to have you both here 02:33 at 3ABN. Love your heart for evangelism - that's right - 02:37 and the ministry of Voice of Prophecy. So welcome. 02:39 Hey, thanks for havin' us. 02:40 I notice I didn't get the appel- lation beautiful but you did. 02:43 Ahh... It never seems to come out. 02:48 You know, you've been a long-time friend of course 02:50 of the ministry of 3ABN. Yes! Of course the Voice of Prophecy 02:52 as well. You've been at VOP for what? Ten years? 02:55 Not quite. Nine now. I think it's about nine years. 02:57 Yeah? 2013. Yep... yeah. 03:02 Very good. Before we get into more of what's happening 03:04 'cause there's a lot of exciting things happening at VOP 03:07 tell us something that maybe someone at home... 03:09 They see you on stage and Discovery Mountain 03:12 Jean you are there, 03:13 so tell us something that maybe someone at home 03:16 wouldn't really know about you guys. Maybe your family. 03:17 You have some kids. Yep. We do? We do! 03:21 Have kids? Yeah, two! Two daughters. 03:23 OK. We had a big family event recently. 03:25 Our oldest daughter got married. 03:27 So that was really... You all don't look old enough to have... 03:31 I like the guy, too! Yeah. For decades you wonder... 03:34 It's like somebody's going to come around and ask 03:36 for my daughter's hand. Right. Nope, I already don't like him. 03:39 But I like this guy. I LIKE this guy! 03:41 So... Yeah, he's studying for the ministry, so... 03:44 Yeah, that's great. Well that's a big event. 03:47 It was. It was a fun, wonderful celebration. 03:49 Then you have a younger daughter then? 03:52 So our younger daughter is still in college. 03:54 Yes. She's on the West Coast studying 03:56 and so kind of figuring out. She's changed her major 03:59 I think three times, so I'm not exactly sure 04:01 where she'll land but she can figure it out. 04:03 I'm still workin' on mine, too. 04:06 We all are. You know life is a journey. Yes! 04:08 True. So tell us: what is Voice of Prophecy? 04:11 Maybe someone watching is saying 04:13 "I'm not really familiar with Voice of Prophecy. " 04:15 Tell us a little bit about the origin of Voice of Prophecy 04:17 and what the ministry is about. Voice of Prophecy 04:19 Voice of Prophecy: 1929 a preacher by the name of 04:21 H.M.S. Richards who is from Loveland, Colorado. 04:25 We moved the ministry back there. 04:28 Just 8 years ago we moved it there. 04:30 Yeah. He got a burden. He thought, you know, radio 04:33 was pretty new-fangled technology. 04:35 The Internet of the 1920's. 04:36 And he thought we ought to be preaching on there. 04:40 And there was some resistance back in the day. 04:42 "No, it's too new-fangled. It's probably the devil's tool. " 04:44 And that kind of stuff. Right? Yeah. 04:46 Probably the devil's tool. And so he started. 04:49 He started making sermons in a chicken coop 04:51 and then running the recordings down to 04:54 KNX Radio in Los Angeles. 04:55 It was called Tabernacle of the Air. 04:58 It was very old-timey and eventually more sophisticated. 05:01 So it's been on the air continuously since 1929. 05:04 Wow! Yeah. So it started out radio. Yep! 05:07 When did it switch to TV? We didn't switch. 05:10 I think we added television. 05:13 And that's very recent. 05:15 That's really... I mean off and on there have been 05:18 television programs as part of Voice of Prophecy 05:21 but really it's been what? The last two years? 05:23 As a regular weekly thing it's just the last couple of years - 05:26 yeah - we added that. 05:28 It's tricky, too, because now... We do it at once. 05:30 I don't have the bandwidth to do both 05:32 and live on the road 05:33 to do radio and TV so we... 05:36 we had an older... older? it's not that old... but 05:39 I had a one-hour talk radio show 05:41 that we dispensed with, and now I do one show in two. 05:44 So I've gotta think all the time: "OK, 05:46 don't use visuals because it's pointless... 05:51 most of the audience is on radio. 05:52 Right. Well you do similar, right? 05:55 You know, you tape the program and it's on 3ABN Radio. 05:58 Similar concept, yeah. 05:59 You have to think you know: "They can't actually see 06:01 what I'm holding up. " So tell us about the facility 06:03 then in Loveland, Colorado, because you said 06:04 you recently moved there in the last 10 years or so. 06:06 So tell us what you have there. 06:07 Oh, we're in an old bank building. 06:09 OK. And it's Chase Manhattan Bank 06:12 that'd been sitting empty for a while. 06:14 The VOP had been in Los Angeles for a long time 06:17 and it had fallen on some hard times for a little while. 06:19 And somebody asked us: "Hey, are you guys willing to go 06:23 there? " And I said: "It's on hard times... NO. " 06:25 It's like: "NO, I'm not going to go there. " 06:28 By the next morning you said: "You're going to go, 06:30 aren't you? " I said: "Oh yeah. It's like 06:32 the next morning... I do. 06:34 Yeah. I'm very stubborn but I repent fast. 06:38 And so I said: "You know we're not going to stay 06:41 in the Los Angeles area. Families can't afford to live here 06:43 any more... young families with kids. 06:45 So we moved to Loveland, CO, which turns out that's where 06:48 the founder was born, went to school, started preaching 06:50 in those hills there. Wow! 06:52 And I walk... On my way to work every morning 06:54 I walk past the lake where he was baptized as a kid. 06:56 That's really special... it really is. Yeah! 06:58 So we're in an old bank building. We put the little TV 07:01 studio in what used to be the vault. 07:03 Yep. And the radio studio... we found a guy... 07:07 You know, it was a little bit in tatters 07:08 but we found a guy Ruben. Ruben, I know you'd be watching. 07:11 I love you man. Amen. 07:13 He was like a CBS radio station night manager. 07:15 We called him and he said: "Yeah, I'll come. " 07:17 And I said: "Have you ever built a radio studio? " 07:19 "No... but I will. " Wow! And he did! 07:21 It's like: "How about a TV stu- dio? Ever built one of those? " 07:23 "No... but I will. " We've got a great team. Amen! Wow! 07:25 Great people to have like that. 07:27 So we operate in a bank, and if we run out of funding 07:29 the new bank is right next door 07:31 and the basements share a wall. 07:36 Yeah. Enough said, right? 07:39 I just said that on TV so now I'm... Now we know. 07:44 I love that! 07:45 So tell us: with the COVID pandemic a lot of things have 07:49 been affected, even television ministries and radio ministries. 07:53 So what has happened to VOP during that time? 07:55 We like to say we're not really a media ministry. 07:58 We do it because it reaches hearts. People can hear about 08:00 Christ, but we're an evangelistic ministry. 08:03 It's what we eat, sleep, and breathe. 08:04 And so that's just one of our tools, and if you dare call it 08:07 a media ministry in our office it's like: "Nah, nah, nah, nah, 08:10 that's not what we are. " So we had developed plans 08:15 we were going to host 1,000 simultaneous evangelistic 08:18 meetings across America. A thousand? Yeah. 08:20 Well here's why. I thought: "You know what? 08:23 For years the Lord has blessed us with all the nice toys. " 08:26 We have great resources. You're in a media ministry. 08:29 I've worked at several. And when I was a church pastor 08:32 I didn't have any of that stuff. So basically giving the store 08:34 away: if I have it, you have it. 08:36 You get the same resources and how about I do this. 08:39 You've never held evangelistic meetings? 08:40 Why don't we open all up on the same night? 08:42 I'll hold worker's meeting on Zoom every morning. 08:44 Wow! And do a thousand. 08:46 So we were 10 days into that and churches were excited. 08:48 Man, we had the first 250 or 300 meetings going 08:51 and ten days in it all gets shut down 08:55 and everybody gets sent home. 08:57 Springs of 2020... and the churches are impacted. Yep. 09:00 And some lingered to the bitter end 09:02 till the state said "Go home. " And some had baptized a few 09:06 already 10 days in. Oh wow! BUT 09:09 it's OK. We've been biding our time and we're kicking that ball 09:12 down the field again right now. But it wiped out 09:14 our most ambitious project ever... COVID. 09:16 It just shut us down. Um-hmm. 09:17 Yeah. But it didn't shut VOP down! 09:19 Oh no, no, no. So then what did you do? 09:22 That obviously is like "Whoa! " A big wrench so to speak. 09:25 So what did you do to re-group? 09:26 A couple of things... a couple of things. 09:29 And I almost don't dare say one of them out loud. 09:30 But we thought: "This isn't over. " 09:33 Everybody was excited. We're going to kick 09:35 the ball down the field again. 09:36 And we're doing that this year because it seems to be now. 09:39 But what if we can't have live meetings the way we have? 09:42 Maybe this is a new normal for quite a while. 09:44 Some pandemics last a decade. Um-hmm. 09:46 So we've been working on a virtual platform... 09:49 a virtual evangelistic platform. 09:51 Smart. Yeah. And you know "Why don't you just use Zoom, 09:53 Shawn? " Well Zoom doesn't behave like a church. 09:55 Doesn't have greeters in the lobby. 09:57 So you can present; there's a greeter or somebody who can 09:59 talk to you and pray with you. 10:01 When you have an altar call people can actually go 10:03 into one of the breakout rooms with one person 10:05 and pray together. Yes! And the nice thing 10:07 I think about this is I've been watching. 10:10 If you have an unpopular opinion these days, 10:12 you're gone. So I don't want to rely on Zoom 10:14 or Facebook or any of those so we're just gonna own one. 10:17 We're just building one that we can use. 10:19 Oh, I love that! Wow! That's great. 10:21 So you can't kick us off. Yep, can't kick us off. Really good. 10:23 Yeah. I get threatened to be kicked out all the time... 10:26 That happens all the time. 10:28 I've been kicked out of great places. 10:29 You know, praise the Lord for that, though. For people 10:31 you know, your team. You're able to tap into that skill level 10:34 to do that. Um-hmm. That's really smart. 10:36 Praise the Lord. Yeah. 10:38 So I'm noticing here on your... You're not wearing a tie. 10:42 Mr. Danny you know... he doesn't wear a tie. 10:44 He wore a tie for the wedding. 10:46 That was... I had no choice! 10:48 Documentable. I had no choice. 10:51 So Jean, your husband's wearing a logo on his T-shirt. 10:55 I never do that. You don't? OK. 10:56 It says Authentic. That's our new program at the VOP. 11:02 And people can watch it right here on 3ABN. 11:05 So it's your new baby... you should talk about it. 11:07 This is mine? Yeah! 11:09 I... I don't know... We had that talk radio 11:12 that went for an hour. It was going OK - um-hmm - 11:14 but I've had this burden. I know where I come from. 11:17 I still call myself a recovering heathen. 11:20 That's what I am: a recovering heathen. 11:21 I'm saved; I'm good with Jesus 11:23 but I'm still in recovery - wow - for sure. We all are! 11:27 Yeah... it's a process. 11:29 What do the people that I left from the old life 11:32 think about every day? Where do they dwell? 11:35 And it's all the big, deep existential questions. 11:37 What do all human beings in all generations 11:39 and all cultures hold in common? 11:40 Why am I here? What's the meaning of life? 11:42 Hmm! Is there anything out there? 11:44 Are the philosophers right at the university I'm studying at? 11:47 That when I die that's it? Lights out? 11:49 There was no purpose to this? 11:50 So we're doing the deep existential questions. 11:53 But the branding isn't deep existential. It's not Plato. 11:56 And it's like OK... I said to the team: 11:58 "This has to... We're going to deal with these questions 12:01 that everybody struggles with in the quiet of the night. " 12:03 Why do I hurt? Why do I... Right. 12:06 We're going to talk about that. My background was in political 12:08 science and philosophy and economics. 12:11 Yeah, OK. I thought: "No, I had to read all those books. 12:13 May as well use them. They're all reading them 12:15 and so let's talk about it. " 12:17 Let's talk about what Plato actually said. 12:19 Let's talk about what Immanuel Kant actually said. 12:23 But let's do it in street language. Let's not 12:26 make this a seminar at the college 12:29 because that's boring. Right. And so the branding is for 12:32 what I call "Joe Six-Pack. " 12:33 "I've done work; I'm goin' home. " 12:36 And so I kept... The logo... We kept workin' on that 12:39 for a little bit. But let me give you the flavor of the show. 12:41 Right? Sounds good. Can we run the Authentic opener? 12:45 Yeah. I think that's video #1. 12:47 OK. Let's go to that roll right now. 13:19 Love that program! That'll grab your attention. 13:22 It will. Such a great opener! 13:24 We air it, of course, here on 3ABN. Yes we do! 13:27 5:30 PM Central every Saturday afternoon. Amen. 13:31 I'm so grateful for the partnership with VOP. 13:33 But tell us about the response that you're getting to this 13:35 program. We get response here at 3ABN. Oh yeah, good response. 13:38 Tell us about the response you're getting. 13:40 It's... So far we got a couple of responses. 13:43 One was: All right... the saints: 13:45 "Where's your tie? " OK, I get it... I get it. 13:50 I've always hated ties! 13:52 I finally... It's not new. No. All right. 13:55 But you did wear one for your daughter's wedding. 13:57 For the wedding? Yeah, OK: we wore one. 13:59 But you know what is it Ezekiel says? That God condemns 14:01 anything that makes a man sweat. 14:03 And a tie does? 14:06 But the responses, though, have been good? 14:08 It's doing exactly what we prayed it would do. 14:13 And I'm getting letters... I got a letter the other day 14:15 from... Oh, she's out East. 14:20 I won't say her name... I'll protect her. But it's like: 14:22 "All right. You said the following about Richard Dawkins 14:24 and Douglas Adams. I think you got it wrong. " 14:26 And I checked... I got one of the things wrong. 14:28 She was completely right. So I wrote her and I said: 14:30 "I was wrong. " And then she said: "But 14:33 OK, this is different than most Christian programming 14:36 I listen to. " She is... She thinks she is 14:38 an atheist. She's not. Wow! 14:40 She said: "This is different and I listen every week. 14:43 This is my go-to. " And she is starting to write a letter 14:47 every month. And that's starting to happen. 14:49 It's starting to trickle in from everywhere. 14:51 It's like: "Hey, this is different and you're talking 14:53 about what I worry about. " 14:54 Yeah. "And you speak our language. " 14:56 Yeah, unfortunately I do. That's kind of a double-edged sword. 15:00 I do speak their language. I'm an ex-heathen. 15:02 I'm a recovering heathen. 15:04 And I know what they're learning in college. 15:06 I know what they're reading. 15:07 I thought: "Let's talk about it. " And then I'll dare them 15:10 to read the Bible because I say: "You know there's more 15:12 in here than where you've been drinking. " 15:14 The show always ends: "Come on, man, just read it. 15:16 Quit reading books about it; just read it. " 15:18 Just read it. So again, some of the topics that you cover? 15:21 Oh my goodness! What have we done? 15:23 We do a lot of philosophy, a lot of history. 15:26 So recently we talked about Ayn Rand 15:28 and her influence on America and philosophy in politics 15:31 and why she died as miserable as she did 15:34 and what she had right and what she had wrong. 15:36 You can always tell people somebody did something right. 15:38 They're not wrong about everything. 15:40 Right? They're not wrong about everything! 15:42 That's true absolutely. Her big thing was 15:45 "I own me... you don't own me. " 15:47 OK, there's some truth to that. I believe God owns me. 15:49 But I also at the same time I don't believe I own you guys. 15:52 I don't get to run your life. 15:53 So she's right about that. What's she wrong about? 15:55 Just about everything else... but we unpack that. 15:58 And I was an Ayn Rand disciple as a young man. 16:01 I used to go to the club meetings and all that stuff. 16:04 Really? So I knew this stuff. 16:05 So we did that and people write in and say: "Man, 16:08 I knew something bothered me there. I knew there was 16:09 a dead end there somewhere. " I said: "Yeah, now 16:11 watch: here's where you're going to 16:13 find what I was talking about today. " 16:15 Right. Wow! Yeah. So that one and 16:17 we do Immanuel Kant and the early apologists. 16:20 We do a lot of history and then we do some current events. 16:22 I just did a show that's comin' out soon on 3ABN. 16:25 Thank you. On flat earth theory. 16:27 Why do people get all bonkers on the earth has gotta be flat? 16:30 'Cause I hear all kinds of can I say "wack-a-doodle. " 16:32 I hear all kinds of "wack-a-doodles" running around. 16:34 And so we talk about that. 16:35 Why do we do this as Christians? 16:37 And here's... I'm not really talking to the Christians. 16:39 Right. So why do we do this? The gospel's profound 16:41 enough that you don't have to come up with weird to sell it. 16:45 And then when I'm doing that I tell the story of the 16:49 demon-possessed girl following Paul: "Hey! 16:51 Servant Lord; servant Lord. " This is what you're dealing 16:53 when you do the weird stuff. Stop doing the weird stuff... 16:56 this is profound enough. Not really for the saints. 16:58 The audience goes: "Oh, they know they're a little weird. 17:01 What else is this guy going to admit? " Right! 17:03 Hmm. And they listen. 17:05 Amen. Well thank you for not being afraid. 17:07 Oh, I'm pretty afraid. 17:09 No... I mean you know because sometimes people 17:11 may want to steer clear of that. 17:12 Well you know, it's just kind of comfortable. Let's just kind of 17:14 hit the main topics of Christianity and that's it. 17:17 Yeah, thank you for that. That's great. 17:19 Yeah, we've received a good response here at 3ABN. 17:20 Absolutely. It's a great niche because 17:23 we need to reach the secular minds. We do. We need to reach 17:25 the atheists; we need to reach the intellectuals, 17:27 the philosophers. That's really important. 17:29 So... switching gears I'm going to Jean here. 17:32 Discovery Mountain is an incredible radio series. 17:38 I just want to say my nephews watch it 17:40 and we get to comparing notes. 17:42 They live in North Carolina and they love it. 17:44 They say: "This is just like Adventures in Odyssey. " 17:47 They love the program! So tell us: what was the 17:49 impetus behind the program? And tell us about 17:52 what the series is like. OK. 17:53 Well, Discovery Mountain is an audio adventure for families 17:57 is what we like to call it. 17:58 So it started about five-ish years ago in 2017. 18:02 So... I can't believe it sometimes that this new baby 18:06 is now over 5 years old. 18:08 But we enjoy it. It's a half-hour weekly program, 18:12 audio program, and it's on 3ABN Radio. 18:15 Can get it right here too. Oh yes. 18:16 So what was the impetus for it? 18:19 Well, when we joined the Voice of Prophecy 18:22 you know it started as a radio ministry all those years ago. 18:25 And my kids have grown up lis- tening to Adventures in Odyssey. 18:29 And there wasn't a lot of other material out there 18:33 similar to Odyssey, and I have to admit I even 18:36 had a few problems with a few of the things in Odyssey. 18:38 And I thought: "You know, we as a radio ministry 18:42 need to create an audio program for kids. " 18:44 And I thought: "We should create one 18:46 like the kind that I wished when my daughters were young. " 18:49 What would I have wanted my daughters to listen to. 18:51 So that's where it started, but really the core of it 18:54 was to fit into the whole plan of evangelism 18:57 we have at Voice of Prophecy - yes - 18:59 which Shawn shared already. 19:00 Everything we create is not just to be interesting 19:03 and entertaining... it's to fit into that plan. 19:07 So we very intentionally built Discovery Mountain 19:10 in that way. Yeah. Um-hmm. 19:12 I love that. And you have Blue Birdie, 19:15 Jake, and you know all these characters that you 19:18 need to learn and identify with 19:20 and learn character-building stories. 19:22 And the most important character? 19:24 And the VERY MOST IMPORTANT character? Chaplain Simon! 19:26 Sean voices his character. 19:28 Twenty seasons... I've been there four times. 19:31 He's overseas. He gets sent overseas all the time. 19:34 I know what's happening here. 19:35 I'm going to get written out. 19:36 Twenty season? Yes... seasons. 19:39 Incredible! Yes, five years/20 seasons. 19:41 So we have four six-part story lines every year 19:47 and we call those a season. 19:48 And then in between those full stories we have 19:51 new content every single week. 19:52 So every week there's something fresh. 19:55 And we can actually show your viewers what it looks like... 19:57 what Discovery Mountain looks like. 19:59 You know, it's an audio program. We felt it was important to 20:01 create a beautiful visual aspect of it, too. 20:05 Something we launched recently 20:08 was the Discovery Mountain Club as well. 20:11 And... What's that? Yeah... 20:13 So that is a membership portion of the program. 20:18 And the reason we did that was we wanted the main program 20:21 to be completely free for anyone 20:23 who would ever want to listen to it. 20:25 We wanted it to stay evangelistic 20:27 so there was never someone who couldn't listen because of... 20:29 because they had to pay for it. Yeah. 20:32 Sure. Oh, that's great! Yeah. So in order to continue to 20:35 keep that completely free and accessible to everyone 20:37 we created some member-based content. 20:40 And we're doing some fun stuff in there. 20:43 We have Jake as the main character. Yes. 20:45 And he's also our employee Ruben that Shawn referenced earlier. 20:49 He's the voice of Jake. 20:51 So you use your employees to help let's say design stuff 20:54 but also voice stuff. Oh absolutely! 20:56 Yeah... we work them way past labor laws. 20:59 If you work at VOP, you're going to get asked to do 21:02 a voice on Discovery Mountain. 21:04 And they can be one of the characters. Yeah absolutely! 21:06 Yeah. Can you tell us a little more then? Yes. 21:08 So within the club, there are like five programs right now. 21:11 Hopefully more in the future 21:13 that are unique to the club members. 21:15 So we have Jake has a podcast as Jake. 21:18 Then we have bedtime Bible stories... 21:20 just telling Bible stories that are very calm 21:22 with very soothing music. Ohh... 21:23 For parents, of course, of younger ones 21:26 to help soothe them to sleep and things like that. 21:29 Again it just fits the whole reason 21:33 for Discovery Mountain, keeping the main program evangelistic. 21:36 And then we created a VBS as well to kind of complete that... 21:40 Vacation Bible School! Yeah. Discover Mountain VBS. 21:43 To kind of finish that cycle you know, so then... 21:47 The idea is the person in the local church 21:50 listens to the program, becomes familiar with it. 21:52 They invite their friends and family to listen with them. 21:54 And then the local church would host an event. 21:57 Ideally Discovery Mountain VBS or any family-oriented event 22:00 and then they invite people to come to church with them. 22:03 Oh wow! And so... And it looks beautiful 22:06 if you want to show the photo of what the VBS looks like. 22:09 It's visually very beautiful. Oh yeah! 22:11 RESCUED. Yeah, so it's just... That's how... that's how this 22:16 kids ministry - this kids program - fits into everything 22:19 we're doing at VOP. 22:21 That's great. So we're going to be talking about 22:23 the website multiple times throughout the program. 22:25 We're already like 20 minutes in already. So what's the website 22:28 people can go to get like the VBS or sign up for the club? 22:31 Umm... discoverymountain.com 22:34 And then for anything else VOP related it would be: 22:38 If you go to VOP.com can you find Discovery Mountain 22:41 there? Oh yeah, you can find everything we do there. 22:43 Resources. Yeah, um-hmm. Do you have some video on demand 22:46 there or not at? Oh yeah. No... Authentic is there. 22:48 I don't know if we have the older stuff there, 22:50 but we put that up there every week. 22:52 And yep... there's plenty to watch, there's plenty to study. 22:55 There are free Bible courses there for anybody. Just click 22:57 on the study tab. What's the website again? 23:00 The website? I just kicked the table. 23:02 Did everybody hear that? 23:04 And the crew warned me not to do this. 23:06 You're good. 23:07 What's the website again? 23:09 VOP.com or voiceofprophecy.com 23:12 OK... both work. Both work. Yeah, both work. 23:14 That's great. So I want to ask you about this 23:16 Discovery Mountain. We're talking about our nephews 23:17 and stuff. Yep. So let's say you've got someone that says: 23:20 "You know, I'm 100 yrs. old. " 23:22 We've got someone that's like over 100. 23:24 Can they sign up? Or it's just for kids like... 23:26 Oh no! It's for anyone. 23:27 Are you serious? Even me at 46? 23:29 Absolutely. OK.. I can sign up. 23:31 That's awesome; that's good. 23:33 You know, what I love when I get to get out and meet people 23:36 is people who tell me they listen to Discovery Mountain 23:38 from all age groups because the stories are timeless. 23:41 Jesus told stories and they can be appealing to all of us. Yeah. 23:45 Tell us about some of the response. 23:46 I know we talked about response with Authentic 23:48 but tell us about response from Discovery Mountain 23:51 from kids or adults or how are they impacted 23:54 by the series? I have the BEST mail 23:56 because we get cards and colored pictures 23:59 from kids and families listening but also teachers. 24:02 Teachers really enjoy using the programs in their classrooms. 24:06 My favorite story, which I would love to tell you in detail 24:09 but I'll just mention to you, is a man named Easy. 24:13 Oh! And he's 35. He's visually impaired. 24:15 He was born blind and he connected with us 24:18 when another podcast that high- lights different audio programs 24:21 interviewed us and Easy heard about Discovery Mountain. 24:24 And he fell in love with it 24:27 and started connecting with us online. 24:29 And then he asked if he could audition to be a voice 24:32 in the program. We said: "Of course! 24:34 Of course you can. " Oh! And so he came out. 24:36 He did a voice; he did great. 24:37 And I actually wrote a whole character for him. 24:40 So now we have Chris in Discover Mountain 24:42 who's visually impaired in the program 24:44 and Easy voices him for us. 24:46 Isn't that special! 24:48 That really is. We all just love Easy 24:51 and it's neat to actually connect with someone 24:53 who has been impacted by the ministry. 24:56 Praise the Lord! So who writes the scripts? 24:58 I... I've done 90% of them. 25:02 You know how hard your wife works 25:05 'cause that's a lot of work! A lot of work to put that 25:07 together. And a great job... a great job! 25:09 'Cause we've heard a lot of stories in our household too. 25:12 You know, Discovery Mountain. Yeah... great job! 25:14 Yeah. Great lessons' great evangelism. 25:16 Because of the creativity but yet great evangelism. 25:18 I love what you said. I just want to remind you 25:20 one more time. The website is VOP.com 25:24 We'll put that up for you. 25:26 There you can find all about 25:27 the ministry of Voice of Prophecy. 25:29 You can check out Discovery Mountain. 25:31 You can sign up. You can watch the Authentic video series. 25:35 You can donate and support the work and ministry 25:38 that they are involved in right now. 25:40 We're switching back to Pastor Shawn. And let's 25:42 talk about Discover Seminars. Tell us what that's all about. 25:46 What are you doing with that? Yeah, I started in ministry 25:50 holding six-week evangelistic campaigns. 25:53 It's hard to believe next year I think is my... 25:55 I'll have completed 30 years on the sawdust trail. 25:58 Wow! In ministry! 26:00 That is incredible. You can see bags under my eyes. 26:03 No, you all look good. 26:04 Well it's a lot of preservatives. 26:08 A little varnish every morning. Vegetables... like vegetables. 26:10 Vegetables! They shellac my face in the mornings. 26:16 No. So we've got like the world's oldest and biggest 26:20 Bible school. That's our primary outreach. 26:22 Then over here we've got... I do 6- week evangelistic campaigns. 26:25 But what's in between? What could a church 26:27 invite a community to that isn't a huge commitment? 26:30 Doesn't scare anybody... church members or guests. 26:33 And Discover Seminar is like 4 or 5 meetings maximum. 26:37 We create video that they can be proud to show their friends. 26:41 They're not going to... You know, sometimes we're scared. 26:43 Let's bring friends to church. What are they going to see? 26:44 Right. Yeah. We put a lot of effort into it 26:48 so it can compete with anything on Netflix or History Channel 26:51 or all that kind of stuff. Umm. 26:52 But half an hour of documentary. 26:54 But that's not the point. The point is next 26:56 that the local church leaders lead a Bible study for 45 min. 26:59 to explore what they just heard. Nice! 27:01 Then after 4 or 5 meetings 27:03 Jean and I will come on camera and say: "Hey, 27:04 if you like what you studied now it's the tip of the iceberg. 27:07 Wait till you see what else these people study. 27:09 We're starting Wednesday night. " 27:11 And so it opens a Bible study in the church. 27:13 So we've done about... We're working on #5? 27:15 Um-hmm. Right now: Number 5. Yeah, it comes out 27:19 in April of 2022... Spring of 2022. Wow! 27:22 Yeah. Exciting? So what are some of the 27:24 documentaries? What are some of them about? 27:25 And I think we have a couple trailers for some of them. 27:27 I brought all of them but we can't do that! 27:30 But the first one we did was called Shadow Empire. 27:35 And we did the life of Constantine the Great. 27:38 Where he came from. Born to a virgin incidentally. 27:41 He parallels the life of Jesus right up to a point. 27:44 It's uncanny how that works. 27:46 But then when... What we focus on 27:48 is like the story where Israel asks for a king. 27:51 God says: "This isn't what I want for you 27:53 but I'll let you do it. " 27:54 And then Israel gets into trouble: they asked for a king. 27:57 Well, Christianity did exactly the same thing. 27:59 "We want a king" 'cause they couldn't handle 28:01 the disputes in No. Africa and the Arian dispute. 28:04 And so: "Hey, maybe you know, this emperor's friendly 28:08 so let's invite him in. " 28:09 We invited him in and it never was the same again. 28:11 What we did in this series was just say: "Hey, 28:13 have you ever had a funny feeling something's wrong with 28:15 Western Christianity? " 28:17 And the whole world said: "Yeah! We know there's something 28:19 wrong with it. " So instead of arguing we confirm it. 28:21 "You're absolutely right. Something went off the rails. 28:23 The Bible predicted it would happen 28:24 and want to know what else it says? " 28:28 Wow! And so you agree with people. 28:30 You agree with people wherever you can consistently do it. 28:32 "You're right... something DID go wrong. " 28:34 Yeah. So that was the first one: Shadow Empire. 28:36 We've done a bunch since. Celtic Christianity. 28:38 What would happen? A Pale Horse Rides. 28:40 What would happen if Christianity grew up 28:42 in a bubble outside of what Constantine did 28:44 out on an island somewhere? What would that look like? 28:46 What if all they had was a Bible? 28:48 What would they look like? And we found out the Celts 28:50 were Sabbath keepers and they even had rules for 28:52 identifying the Spirit of Prophecy. 28:55 We went on location. Found their old homes 28:58 and scriptoriums out on the islands. 29:00 Wow! And so we've done 29:03 then one on the second coming, and the most recent one we did 29:05 American in Bible Prophecy. 29:07 We ran that for two years because with the pandemic 29:09 and the election that followed all the churches were packed. 29:12 The response has been... 29:15 Let's... Let's do Final Empire. I think that's #4. Final Empire. 29:19 This is the one on America in prophecy. 29:21 Get the look and feel of what these look like. 29:22 OK... let's go to that right now. 29:34 The United States is the greatest nation that has ever 29:37 existed in the history of the world, 29:39 but the rise of the Republic was no accident. 29:43 It was formed out of hundreds of specific events 29:46 that started over 3,000 years 29:49 before the creation of our Constitution. 29:52 With such calculated history 29:54 could the birth of this nation 29:56 be just coincidence? 29:57 Or did the hand of God 30:00 direct the formation of the new world? 30:04 Explore the annals of history and discover the tapestry 30:08 of events woven together to construct a brand new empire. 30:13 Uncover the true reason Columbus set sail 30:17 into uncharted waters. 30:19 How the fall of Constantinople set the stage 30:22 for the creation of our nation hundreds of years 30:25 before its inception. 30:28 See the Bible's warnings for our nation today. 30:31 As we follow the events that shaped America 30:34 you will see the evidence that we are a country 30:37 founded on the principles of religious liberty 30:39 and hear what we need to do to maintain our freedom today. 30:55 That's incredible! The cinematography 30:58 and the trailer. That's amazing! 31:00 So if churches or individuals or homes want to connect 31:04 and say: "I want a study group;" "I want to do this" - right - 31:07 how do they do that? You have to do it that way. 31:09 These are designed so that people have to meet people. 31:12 There's no other way to do this event. 31:13 You're going to have to invite people to your home 31:15 or your church. VOP.com 31:17 and you can find those or DiscoveryCenters.com 31:20 That's where our resources for churches that we're 31:22 partnering with like the 1,000 find this stuff. 31:26 But it is an option for people to run in their home 31:28 with a small group. So the church event is one option 31:32 and the small group in your home is a great option too. 31:34 And do you pay for that? Do the churches pay 31:36 to connect with this and they reach out? 31:39 Minimally. Perfect. Like mini- mally. We make it affordable. 31:42 We do raise our own funds so I can't give it away 31:45 for free or I would. I would totally give it away. 31:47 No, but it costs money to do this. It does! 31:49 To do it quality. And we want it to look like something 31:53 you'd be proud to bring your friends to. 31:54 You don't have to be scared of how goofy it's gonna be. 31:57 Correct. I mean I'm goofy, but the show 31:59 is not too goofy. Now we're gearing up for 32:02 probably my favorite of all time The Serpentine Prophecy 32:06 which releases in 2022. Umm! 32:08 Tell us about that. So what's that about? 32:09 Well, every time we go through a crisis 32:11 whether it is I, II World War, 32:13 the influenza epidemic, 32:16 the Great Depression, Fukushima in Japan 32:19 interest in spiritualism goes through the roof. 32:21 One in six Americans think the dead talk to them. 32:23 One in six... and they've heard the dead talk to them. 32:25 Seriously? One in six. 32:27 So it's gone through the roof and we know the time is right. 32:30 But we're going to tell a story that few people have ever heard. 32:33 Sometimes we see series on spiritualism and we start 32:35 with the Fox sisters. Great story, but everybody starts 32:37 with the Fox sisters. I've gone digging through primary sources 32:40 all the way back to ancient Egypt and before that 32:43 and figured out where Plato got his ideas. 32:46 And we're going to tell the story from the very beginning 32:49 and show a thread that runs through every world religion 32:52 outside of the Abrahamic religions... every single one. 32:55 And then we're going to end the series 32:57 I spend the night in the most haunted bedroom 33:00 in America, and we have an over-night Bible study 33:04 on "Can the dead speak to me? " in that room. 33:06 Oh wow! And I won't tell you whether or not 33:08 something happened. People will have watch the series. 33:11 I brought the trailer for this. 33:13 I brought the trailer for this. Number 5: The Serpentine 33:16 Prophecy this is called. This one I'm so excited... 33:18 I'm pumped up! All right. Let's go to that roll right now. 33:32 A disturbing thread tying the present to the past. 33:50 Thing that move behind the shadows. 33:59 Are there dark influences 34:08 that have been quietly driving us 34:10 from the dawn of civilization? 34:23 The story you weren't supposed to hear. 34:39 That is incredible. Wow! It is SO needed - oh yes! 34:44 especially in these last days of earth's history. Um-hmm. 34:45 There is so much spiritualism that is rampant. 34:47 There is so much confusion about what's happening 34:50 so praise the Lord that you all are willing to tackle 34:52 these topics and bring that to people so that 34:55 churches and groups can share it with people. 34:59 Praise the Lord! That's in- credible! This one is really... 35:01 I'm really pumped about this one. This one... We're going to 35:04 just tell a story, and churches can be comfortable. 35:06 We are just going to bring people to the point where they 35:08 start to question themselves. And all of these are designed 35:10 that way. Not to tell anybody they're wrong... 35:12 just to raise just enough that people start saying 35:15 "Wait a minute... what if I'm wrong? " 35:17 And that's the best place for people to be. 35:19 You can't badger people into the kingdom of God. 35:21 You can't argue them in. 35:23 But if they start to question their own assumptions 35:25 then you can have a Bible study. 35:26 Umm! And that's what these are designed to start. 35:29 So have you received response then on some of these 35:32 documentaries? It's been going remarkably well. 35:35 Shadow Empire... I just heard from the Bixby's up in... 35:39 I met them this past summer. 35:41 They... He had been in Christian Science for a little bit 35:45 and he was a science major and so on. 35:47 He said: "Shadow Empire, man, that got me. 35:49 It started the Bible study. We started studying 35:51 and six months later... " He actually... 35:53 Hey guys: the shoes you gave me I'm wearing them right now. 35:56 If you're watching, the shoes you gave me 35:59 I've got 'em on right now. 36:00 I love these shoes. 36:02 But yeah, and for Final Empire on American prophecy 36:05 I heard from a West Point graduate recently 36:07 saying: "This is astonishing. " West Point? Yeah. 36:09 Wow! See, we raise stories. In every one of these 36:13 I guarantee there's going to be something 36:15 that you've never heard. Right. 36:16 I can almost guarantee it. 36:17 I spend years writing them to make sure of that. 36:20 And there are components like why did Columbus really 36:23 cross the sea? Had nothing to do with the earth being flat. 36:26 Nobody's ever believed the earth was flat. 36:28 We've known the circumference of the earth since 36:31 Eratosthenes, 400-500 BC. We've known. 36:34 No, no, no... he writes in his journal 36:37 I read Columbus' journals: "The Lord is sending me over 36:40 this way to hasten the second coming. " 36:43 He thought to go get armies in Asia to help kick the Muslims 36:46 out of Jerusalem so Jesus could come. 36:48 But he kept writing in his journal: "I'm being sent; 36:50 I'm being sent; I can't resist this. 36:52 Somehow this is going to hasten the second coming. " 36:55 What does he do? Open up the earth where the woman can flee. 36:59 Wow! That is amazing! Yeah... so that's in there. 37:01 I mean we just find stuff that... This stuff used to be 37:04 taught. In the 19th century - yes - Christians knew this stuff 37:07 and we've forgotten it. 37:09 So I want to go back to something you just said. 37:10 I know you want to talk about the Bible study aspect too 37:12 of Voice of Prophecy, but you said you spend years. 37:15 I caught that... years. Wow! Years researching and writing 37:19 this. Yeah. Some of them are the product 37:21 So this is your passion. I mean you're passionate about this. 37:22 You're passionate about accuracy, too. Um-hmm. 37:25 I can testify to the books on his bookcases 37:29 in his home office and his VOP office. 37:32 I mean there's a lot... a lot of research that goes into 37:35 what is created. 37:37 I hated history right up until I became a Christian. 37:40 Really? What's the point? You know? 37:42 When did you become a Christian? How old were you 37:43 when you became a Christian? Twenty? You were 20... I was 21. 37:46 You were like 22. 37:47 Way back when before the world was in color. 37:51 All right. I think I was back there with you. 37:52 So you said then you hated history? 37:55 Well yeah... what's the point of history class? 37:57 I had to take Canadian history and sorry fellow Canadians 38:00 it's the most boring history on earth. 38:02 You're too polite... nothing ever happens. 38:04 Be nice. We love you our viewers and listeners in Canada. 38:08 Oh, I'm allowed to say that. I'm allowed to say that. 38:11 I... Why are you passionate about this? 38:14 Because suddenly it doesn't mat ter who wrote the history book. 38:16 Once you see God's prophetic plan 38:19 it doesn't matter who the characters are. 38:21 God, without violating their free will is nudging them 38:23 in the right direction. I don't care if it's a Roman 38:25 senator... I don't care who it is. 38:27 And suddenly I found out this three angels' message 38:30 that we teach and believe 38:31 you can't hit the bottom of it. 38:32 Every book I've read, every primary source... 38:35 It doesn't matter if it's a thousand years before Christ 38:38 and he's living in Egypt somehow they're all agreeing 38:40 with this and showing that God has been nudging this 38:42 in the right direction all along. 38:44 Yeah. So I'm addicted now. 38:46 What am I in there? I sleep four hours a night. 38:49 I just can't stop reading this stuff. 38:50 So he's probably lost count of his books! 38:53 Wow! That's incredible. That's a bit of a problem. 38:55 I don't know if there's a book support group 38:57 but I probably could use one. 38:59 But you know what? God's taken that passion 39:00 and that drive and that energy 39:03 and God's using it to reach people that would otherwise 39:06 never be reached with the gospel so thank you. 39:08 That's really powerful. 39:09 I want to skip around here just a moment. OK. 39:11 We're going out of order a little bit. That's OK. 39:13 But Jean, I want to talk... I know Voice of Prophecy is 39:15 an evangelistic ministry clearly 39:16 but talk to us about Rescue Home for Little Girls. 39:20 That's incredible... and your humanitarian outreach. Wow! 39:22 Tell us about that. Yeah, the humanitarian element 39:26 of ministry: I mean that's how Jesus taught us 39:29 to care for others and to preach. 39:31 And we take that very seriously at VOP 39:34 and a project that's very close to my heart 39:37 is called Azadi Home. And Azadi means freedom. 39:40 And it's a rescue home in Bangalore, India, 39:43 where women and girls really 39:46 who have been rescued from sex trafficking - 39:49 oh wow - have a chance to live and rehabilitate. 39:52 So this became a project of Voice of Prophecy 39:55 when in I think it was 2015 39:58 I was in India with our daugh- ters meeting our sponsor child. 40:01 Our sponsor daughter/sister. 40:03 And we met a woman named Anita right there in Bangalore. 40:07 And this is her ministry, this is her passion... 40:09 Anita and her team. 40:11 They go out and they literally break down doors 40:15 and pull these young women out of these situations. 40:18 Sometimes... And they have to be very cunning 40:21 and get there right on time because the people who 40:23 are using these women will hide them. 40:26 So they have to... they have to break into floors 40:29 to look in places where these women might be hid 40:32 and they pull them out. Oh wow! 40:34 And when Anita first had this passion and this ministry 40:37 with a team of big guys who help her... 40:39 She's my age and she's my size 40:40 so she obviously has some big guys helping her. 40:43 What's the age group of the women that are being rescued? 40:46 So primarily they're young. 40:49 Teenagers? Teenagers through mid-20's. 40:52 But there are some that are as young as 8 years old. 40:54 Oh! And there are some who are a little bit older 40:56 which is heartbreaking. Yes. Yeah. 40:59 And when she first started rescuing these women 41:01 the only option was to take them to a government rehabilitation. 41:04 Government center. It wasn't even a rehabilitation home. 41:07 Sometimes it was a jail. 41:09 But at least they were out of immediate harm. 41:12 Sometimes the men and women are involved in trapping them 41:17 into trafficking as well sadly. 41:20 They would show up at these government institutions 41:23 and try and tell a fancy story like: "Oh that's my sister. 41:25 I'm her uncle. " And they would get them back out. 41:29 So the rescue home Azadi Home 41:32 is truly a safe rehabilitation opportunity 41:35 for these women. They are told about Jesus. 41:38 They are taught a trade and a skill. 41:41 They find them jobs in the community where they can begin 41:44 to use those trades and skills. 41:46 And what I love most recently about Azadi... 41:49 It holds about 20 women at a time, and they kind of 41:52 cycle through... It's also now a place 41:56 where women who become pregnant and want to keep 41:59 their babies with them can keep their babies with them. 42:03 There are 5 children at Azadi now. 42:05 Five little ones! And they are trained. 42:07 They bring a preschool teacher right into the home. OK. 42:11 The kids never have to leave; it's very safe. Good. 42:14 And they are able then to have a completely new lease on life. 42:18 And as you would expect the mothers 42:20 are happy to be rescued themselves. 42:23 They are beyond happy - yes - to see the potential 42:26 for their children to have a normal and healthy life. 42:30 How many women can you take in Azadi Home? 42:33 Is there like a limit as far as? Yeah. 42:35 They have a limit. It's about 20 women at one time. 42:38 And so the idea is to help them through. 42:40 How long do they stay before they have job opportunities 42:42 and training and all that? How long would they stay? 42:45 It varies depending on what the needs are. 42:47 But recently a young woman who'd been there about 2 years 42:51 they were able to graduate her and launch her out into the 42:54 world and she was able to go back to her home village. 42:56 Oh wow! And so that was powerful to see. 42:59 I mean our entire ministry was in tears 43:01 hearing that story and reading that story. 43:04 So are there ways then that people can support? 43:06 'Cause all this costs money. We're taking evangelism. 43:08 Absolutely; absolutely. This all costs. 43:09 So is there a way then that people can donate at VOP.com? 43:13 Definitely. We have infor- mation about Azadi Home there. 43:16 So go to VOP.com? Yes. And there's a give button. 43:18 There's a give button and we need your help! 43:20 OK, so you'll see a give button at the top. Yep. 43:23 And then just click on that and there'll be an option. 43:24 You'll find the details there and you can find the home 43:26 and that kind of stuff. 43:28 If that's where you'd like it to go we can make that happen. 43:31 Yeah, and as you would expect there are no photos, no videos. 43:33 We want to keep the girls safe and protect their privacy. 43:37 I love that, yeah, because 43:39 these are the marginalized. These are those in society that 43:41 Jesus loves exceedingly and yet no one else is looking after 43:45 them. So praise the Lord God put that in your heart 43:47 to do that. I love that! Well I can't believe our time 43:50 is going. Let's talk about the Bible School. Yes. 43:53 Let's talk about that as far as the Bible School 43:55 and VOP and what's involved. 43:58 Well that, of course... We've talked about multiple things. 44:00 The Bible School is a vital piece of everything 44:03 that happens. The Bible School started in 1942... 44:07 not long after VOP started. 44:09 Bible School of the Air, Fordyce Detamore. 44:11 Yeah, that's right! 1942! 44:14 Um-hmm. Just the year before I was born. 44:18 We know that's not true. 44:21 I'm doin' the math and I'm thinkin' that's... 44:23 Well, anyway OK... So tell us about the Bible School. Yeah. 44:26 So what is the Bible School? 44:27 So it really operates at the local church level. 44:33 So what the Bible School does is it allows a local church 44:37 to minister to the communities 44:40 to invite people to study the Bible. And then it's actually 44:43 run right out of the local church. 44:46 And so right here in North America 44:48 there are 2,200... maybe a little bit more. 44:51 We're running 2,200 Bible Schools in North America 44:52 right now. 2,200 Bible Schools 44:54 that are kind of you know spread out throughout North America 44:57 centered in a local church. 44:58 And it really becomes a vital part of our evangelistic mtgs. 45:03 too. I won't actually hold an evangelistic meeting unless 45:06 there's been a Bible School running in that town 45:07 for a year or two. So how does it work? 45:09 Well, a number of ways, right? Yeah, go ahead. 45:12 There's correspondence. People can do it old-school 45:14 correspondence. You can give out cards in the community. 45:16 We'll help you set one up. 45:17 You can also go online now and tailor it to your own church 45:20 and have your church members work online with people. 45:23 And your website can be custom- ized to what you do in your town 45:26 and your event and that kind of thing. Yes! 45:27 And it's in 100 languages. 45:30 Forty I think. A hundred and forty languages? 45:32 No 140 countries; 100 languages. We just added 60 more languages. 45:34 I know, we just concurred. I'm sorry. Our director's 45:36 probably watching. I know it's a whole lot of languages 45:39 we just added. But our newest language 45:40 is Inuktitut... the language of the Inuit up at the North Pole. 45:45 I've been working up there for about a decade now. 45:48 I've been making trips up there to see what's up there 45:51 and now we need a Bible School. 45:53 That's really an unreached people group right here 45:55 in North America so we're very... So there are cards 45:58 that people can go in the community and hand out. 46:00 And then what happens? OK, so then the card is sent back 46:02 to VOP or to the local church? It can be both. 46:05 It's however the church wants to set up. 46:07 VOP is our headquarters so you can set it up... 46:11 When you sent out the card it can have our address on it. 46:13 Comes back to us. Our staff will grade those lessons 46:16 and send them back. OR you can put the address 46:19 of your local church and then your local church 46:21 is a Discover Bible School right there. 46:23 It can do the follow-up and have the correspondence - 46:25 yeah - with the local church. Either/or. That's incredible. 46:28 And we'll provide the training and the materials are all there. 46:30 And you get real relationships. People get a lot out of this 46:33 because you're not just looking at their lesson 46:35 you're passing little notes back and forth. "Wow! 46:37 You really have great insight here. " 46:38 "Would you pray for me? My daughter's dying. " 46:41 You get those letters - wow - and so we have a team that 46:43 does do lessons from all over the world in the office 46:46 but it's better if your church runs one. 46:49 So we've got 2,200. We've got room for 2,201. 46:53 So hurry and sign up! 46:55 I had no idea that you all had 2,200 Bible Schools. 46:57 Yeah, right here in North America. That's incredible! 46:58 So if people want their church to be involved in a Bible School 47:01 they just go to VOP.com? VOP.com and ask us about it. 47:04 Perfect. Bible Studies. Look at biblestudies.com 47:07 if you want to see what's available for Bible studies. 47:09 We've got I don't know 11 or 12 courses now in that set. Um-hmm. 47:12 Yeah, you know in fact we can even go more personal than that. 47:17 You or I... Greg, you could start your own Bible school 47:20 if you wanted to. Really? Just out of my own home? 47:22 You could... absolutely. 47:24 So there is a website and we could put that image up 47:27 for our viewers who might want to see that. 47:28 It's BIBLESCHOOLS.COM 47:30 Very easy to remember. 47:32 So when you... If you have a burden to do this 47:35 to minister to people personally 47:36 maybe you don't have a church that can do this 47:39 you go on there and after a couple of steps 47:41 you can set up an online Bible School 47:44 that any one of us can run right from our home. 47:48 All you need is a computer and an Internet connection. 47:50 Incredible! It's really wonderful. 47:51 OK... so I'm sitting at home and I'm saying: "I'd like to 47:53 sign up for this and I'm really interested in that. 47:56 I could maybe do it from my house 47:57 but I'm not sure I know all the answers 47:59 so if someone sends it back how do I? Do I have a cheat 48:02 sheet that tells me what's the right answer? 48:04 Or how does that work? " So the online one 48:07 everything is all on the computer and so you would 48:10 be able to basically automatically grade. 48:12 And essentially yes, we would set you completely up 48:15 for success in every way. Nothing is left to guess work. 48:18 Yes. So we do have viewers and listeners right now 48:21 that are saying: "You know what? I'm trying to find God 48:23 but I don't even know how to study the Bible. " 48:25 "What you guys are saying is pretty neat, but it sounds like 48:27 I've gotta get involved in some type of a group. " 48:29 Is there a way that someone right now at home 48:31 can? Absolutely. Yep... go to VOP.com 48:34 You've heard that website before: VOP.com 48:37 Look at the study tab. 48:38 We've got all kinds of resources there. 48:40 Go to BIBLESCHOOLS.COM 48:41 If you're curious about what this Book says, 48:43 what the big deal is, 48:46 we've got all the tools you need to get started in your own home. 48:48 Read this like you would read any other book on the bookshelf. 48:51 You'll understand what you're reading. 48:52 It's at your time in your home, your way. 48:56 Nobody's going to intrude on your life. 48:58 But go ahead: VOP.com Click on the study tab 49:01 and we'll set you up with all the resources you might need 49:04 to just learn what this Book says for yourself. 49:06 Look... you might still say: "I don't know if this is for me. " 49:09 But you don't know that till you read it, 49:10 so we'll help you read it - that's awesome - 49:13 and then you make up your mind after you've read it. 49:15 And it's free... it really is free. 49:18 We just want you to have this. 49:19 I just want to say we believe in the ministry of VOP. Oh yeah! 49:23 100 percent. We believe in what God is doing 49:25 in and through Pastor Shawn and Jean 49:27 and the entire team there. 49:29 We want to put up that website one more time: VOP.com 49:33 If the Lord has put it on your heart to help support 49:35 the evangelism that's going on 49:38 or the Bible Schools 49:39 or you want to become involved in that 49:41 maybe you want to support the school... not school but 49:45 home for girls there in India. 49:48 Whatever God is putting on your heart right now 49:51 we want to encourage you to just go on the website. 49:56 and become involved in evangelism 49:59 and help support the ministry of Voice of Prophecy. 50:02 I know we're almost going to a break here shortly 50:05 but what are some plans for the future? 50:07 Hmm. Well, we're re-launching the 1,000 meetings. 50:11 And we've got a new mini-series after Serpentine 50:15 that I don't know if I dare even leak it 50:18 but... Yes! Go ahead! No... that's OK. 50:22 I just kicked the table again like a pro. 50:24 Yeah... no, no... we've got a few more. 50:26 There are some subjects we may explore. 50:28 Why did Islam really rise and take over 1/3 of the globe? 50:32 OK! I'm workin' on that one. 50:34 That won't come out in the next year 'cause I'm still 50:37 in the... BUT Discovering Revelation 50:40 is our series that you can run at your church. 50:43 We'll have 1,000 of them. Praise the Lord! I'm begging God 50:46 a thousand of those in the near future. Amen. 50:48 And then what else is happening? 50:49 Oh, I'm going back to Canada for my 30th year of evangelism. 50:52 I'm going to hold a campaign downtown Calgary. 50:54 With a live audience? In-house audience? Yeah. 50:56 That's the plan. Wow! Currently. 50:59 So I thought: "Eh, round out 30 years. " 51:01 It's like full circle, and now if I die... perfect. 51:04 I can die right on the final night. 51:06 We're praying God gives you many more healthy years. 51:08 Both of you. You're a great team. 51:10 You know, and God just... You guys are here for a purpose 51:13 and a reason. You know, you think about your testimony 51:15 of what God has done in your lives 51:17 and think about the impact that both of you are making, 51:20 your family is making in this world it's phenomenal, isn't it? 51:22 It's a humbling thought when you think about 30 years 51:25 in ministry. Yeah. Thank you as Jill mentioned 51:28 for all that you do because evangelism is not easy. 51:31 Right? No. It's work. 51:32 It's a lot of work but it's also rewarding, isn't it? 51:36 Yeah... absolutely. 51:37 What we're going to do right now is actually go to 51:39 a quick newsbreak then we'll come back 51:42 for some closing thoughts from Pastor Shawn and Jean. |
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