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00:01 As you're well aware,
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00:12 I want to spend my life
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00:44 I want to spend my life
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01:00 Mending broken people
01:15 Hello and welcome to another 3ABN Today program.
01:17 Thank you for joining us as you do each and every day.
01:20 And as always, I always like to say
01:22 thank you for your love and your prayers
01:24 and financial support of 3ABN
01:26 as we endeavor to take this
01:28 great gospel of the kingdom into all the world.
01:31 What an incredible time to be alive
01:33 in the closing moments of earth's history.
01:35 What do you think? It is.
01:36 This is an amazing time
01:38 and we're so blessed here at 3ABN
01:41 to be able to highlight different ministries
01:43 that have that vision as well.
01:45 So we can carry the vision of the gospel to all the world.
01:49 What a great segue to thank
01:51 the Three Angels Broadcasting Network
01:53 and we just happened to have,
01:55 well, we can call them guests but brothers and sisters,
01:58 and we'll start with Sandra, Dr. Sandra Duran.
02:01 And then also of course, Dan Houghton.
02:03 And, Dan, you've been on almost much as I have on 3ABN.
02:06 Over the years Dan's been on, Dan's been on a lot,
02:09 but the program today that we're gonna be talking about
02:12 is Three Angels Messages for Kids.
02:15 And so you can imagine that
02:18 we're here at 3ABN we're all excited about it,
02:21 and we're proud of what you're doing
02:23 because that's where our name originated.
02:25 And we'll call you Sandy now, okay?
02:29 Instead of doctor, we could do that,
02:30 but I'm intimidated by doctor profile,
02:32 just call you, Sandy, that'd be fine.
02:34 Fine.
02:35 Now, before I go any further though,
02:38 Sandy, let's talk about who she is.
02:40 Okay.
02:41 Now, she made somebody very well-known.
02:44 She has a brother. That's right.
02:46 Now you probably never heard of him
02:47 but your brother is Mark Finley.
02:48 So if those who never heard of Mark Finley,
02:51 this is his famous sister.
02:52 That's right though.
02:53 That's way it's gonna be from now on after this.
02:55 After this program, they're gonna be saying,
02:57 oh, yeah, let's see Mark.
03:00 Isn't your sister Sandra?
03:01 You know, that's way they'll do it.
03:03 But, so we're very thankful that you're here.
03:06 And the project that you're doing on
03:09 Three Angels Messages For Kids is incredible
03:12 but when we started a network, you know,
03:14 37 years ago, I had this was looking for a name,
03:19 dreamed about it and in the dream
03:21 I saw the world
03:22 and I saw three angels flying around it
03:25 and basically it was like Three Angels Broadcasting,
03:27 each angel was blowing a trumpet.
03:29 So it was Three Angels Broadcasting
03:32 and to tell you the truth, Dan, and you knew me back then.
03:34 I did.
03:35 We met in 1985 when I was telling them
03:37 Big Sky Montana
03:39 when I was trying to tell the story
03:40 and you were recording it.
03:41 And Dan and Karen had their little cassettes players.
03:45 We recorded this testimony
03:46 the first time he gave it at ASI.
03:47 That's right ever, 1985.
03:50 He said he heard it back too one time.
03:52 On either never supported me.
03:55 When I heard that I said,
03:56 oh boy, I will never swear, had to been the Lord.
03:58 But you know,
03:59 there was a miracle in that, Dan.
04:01 Just got to comment on,
04:02 that was supposed to have been free time
04:03 that Friday afternoon.
04:05 And a lady came up with Danny and said,
04:08 "I want to hear this man's testimony,
04:09 but I want a recording of it."
04:11 You remember that? Okay.
04:12 And I said, "Yeah, we can do that,"
04:14 because there's not a meeting on Friday afternoon
04:15 and we'll just go in
04:16 and because I had the PA system,
04:18 I had the recording system.
04:19 And so we made arrangements and then it rained.
04:22 And 250 people show up to here
04:24 you record for that one lady
04:26 and that tape went wild and that started things off.
04:29 It was a tremendous,
04:30 you know to catapult us out there
04:32 so people knew who we were.
04:34 And so incredible so thank you and that just moved on.
04:37 Well, I just was in the right place
04:38 the right time like you have.
04:39 The tape went around the world,
04:42 but I was impressed to build a station
04:44 called Three Angels Broadcasting.
04:46 But I didn't really I was a Seventh-day Adventist raised,
04:49 my mother became an Adventist when I was...
04:52 When actually the year I was born.
04:54 That was 1951.
04:56 I don't mind telling I'm proud of it,
04:57 you know, 1951 year I was born, and,
05:01 so I was raised in Adventist but I could have,
05:04 you know, argued with people about the Sabbath.
05:06 I use that word argue or the state of the dead
05:09 or debated them but really the three angels,
05:11 I just didn't really catch all of that.
05:14 Yeah.
05:15 So once I was impressed to build a station
05:17 and named Three Angels,
05:18 I said I better study the Three Angels' Messages
05:21 and then, of course, I found it's all about Jesus
05:22 and His love for fallen man.
05:25 And so that's what it's all about.
05:26 Amen.
05:28 And nobody does present that
05:29 better than your brother Mark Finley,
05:30 so we're so thankful
05:32 we've working with Mark all these years
05:33 and now I'm glad that we get to work with you.
05:36 Yeah, now we're doing it for kids.
05:37 That's right. So a little bit...
05:39 Why don't we, we're just gonna get into it.
05:41 Maybe, Dan, tell us how this project got started
05:44 and how Sandra got involved, and all that?
05:45 I'll do that,
05:47 but the first thing you got to say,
05:48 Danny, I am so excited about what's happening.
05:50 That I want you to know I wore my happy socks.
05:54 Here's my happy socks if the camera sees that.
05:59 Okay, here we go.
06:00 I just want you to know that I am extremely happy.
06:03 I don't know if you can see that.
06:04 Oh, there they are.
06:06 All right. They got it.
06:07 There you go. They got it.
06:09 But I am so happy and excited about what is happening.
06:12 Now I'll tell you where this started.
06:14 There was a, you know, a group of people that
06:16 started to come together because our friend Rusty McKee
06:18 had been getting honest about hey,
06:20 we got to do something on the Three Angels' Messages.
06:21 At ASI in 2018,
06:24 and you weren't there but you were watching live.
06:26 I remember because we actually had the posters,
06:29 we decided to send posters to every classroom.
06:31 And you have those,
06:32 I saw them back here in the studio.
06:35 We had that and it's the first time
06:36 I can ever remember and I've been to ASI every year
06:38 since '83 until this year.
06:40 This is the first year Karen and I missed.
06:42 But that was the first time
06:43 I've ever remembered people rushing the stage.
06:46 When we finished that basically Rusty and Mark Finley
06:49 and myself were interviewed by Steve
06:50 onstage Sabbath afternoon, the stage was rushed,
06:53 we were done and they wanted to see the pictures.
06:55 And we said okay,
06:56 if we're gonna put these in schools.
06:59 The next thing we need to have some curriculum.
07:02 And so we began a process
07:03 and we had several people get involved,
07:05 good people that were helping us get going,
07:06 but it just wasn't quite jelling right.
07:09 We had to connect
07:10 with the North American Division
07:11 that wanted all the schools to have it.
07:13 And after we had gone for about,
07:15 oh, probably nine months or so we were wrestling with it
07:18 and Mark Finley, Sandy's brother was out
07:21 in California with us for an event.
07:24 He had written the 13 presentations that later
07:26 became three cosmic messages,
07:28 which we recorded here in partnership with him.
07:31 And at that time, we were saying,
07:33 what are we gonna do to get a curriculum done?
07:36 And it just so happened, he said, you know, Sandy,
07:39 my sister is a curriculum specialist
07:41 in Adventist education has written curriculum,
07:43 has been an educator, as a teacher, as a principal,
07:47 as an education superintendent, has written curriculums.
07:50 And so we got on the phone with her
07:52 over the next couple of days.
07:54 And we've been talking with her
07:56 and she was at a point in her life,
07:57 kind of a transitionary point
07:58 and so we said, hey, what would you think about
08:01 joining our team at Heart Research Center
08:03 and helping us found a new ministry called
08:06 Three Angels for Kids?
08:07 That would actually take the Three Angels' Messages
08:10 and make it available in schools.
08:12 Danny, just like you said, you grew up
08:13 in the Adventist Church, but you didn't know it.
08:15 Not really.
08:16 And there's a lot of kids today,
08:18 how do they, how are they gonna know
08:19 what's going on?
08:21 And so basically, we sat down and started talking
08:24 and Sandy will tell you some of her responses to that.
08:27 But bottom line, she's here so, you know, she said, yes.
08:31 But she started with a blank piece of paper.
08:34 And we created
08:35 what we're gonna share with you today from scratch.
08:37 And I will just tell you,
08:38 I'm so gratified with the responses
08:41 we're getting from schools around North America,
08:46 and even there are places,
08:48 there are people you'll hear as we talk about this,
08:50 people from around the world,
08:51 we have people signing up and taking classes on
08:54 Hope Lives 365 website from around the world.
08:57 Two hundred and fifty I think were the last time
08:59 we had 250 people participating.
09:01 So we just since it's really, really awesome,
09:03 but you know, I wanna say one thing
09:05 before we jump into this
09:06 because I'm afraid we won't have time at the end
09:07 if I don't do it now.
09:09 Can I do that? Sure.
09:11 We also were on here with you shortly
09:13 after we did the four posters.
09:15 Right.
09:16 And I had, if you remember that interview,
09:18 you're both doing the same interview,
09:20 we had Larry Blackmer
09:22 from North American Division Office of Education
09:24 plus a couple teachers.
09:25 Well, we had been talking about trying to get art up,
09:30 while we actually created a series of seven paintings
09:33 with Nathan Green on the days of creation.
09:36 You also have a set of those up here back in the hall.
09:37 Beautiful.
09:39 Well, we had a donor, some donor
09:41 I should say some donors that came and said,
09:43 we would like to make those available in schools
09:45 because there's a group of us that say,
09:47 we've got to get our kids thinking,
09:49 there's so many things to distract them.
09:50 We've got to get them visually engaged in thinking
09:53 about such things
09:54 as Three Angels' Messages and Creation
09:56 which is a part of Three Angels' Messages.
09:58 So what we have done is we've made an offer
10:01 and we partnered with
10:02 the North American Division Education.
10:04 They sent a letter
10:05 out to every teacher a year and a half ago.
10:08 And we said, if you want to write a little essay,
10:12 that about why creation is important.
10:14 We will give you a set of these nice chalets
10:17 in a floating frame ready to hang on the wall.
10:19 We've had 220 of those hung, and I think they have pictures,
10:24 like you'll see those on the screen now.
10:26 These are a few of the schools
10:27 that have sent us back pictures of what
10:29 this how they've done it in their schools.
10:31 Well, one of the things
10:33 I just want to say here today is that
10:35 we have just made arrangements
10:36 for an additional 125 sets of these.
10:39 And I wanna give your viewers an opportunity to say, call...
10:44 If you have a church school in your area call and say,
10:46 hey, do we have this set of pictures
10:48 and if you don't be aware
10:49 that there's an email coming
10:51 from your educational superintendent.
10:53 It's gonna give you an opportunity
10:55 and the first 125 schools that respond and do the,
10:58 write the essay are gonna get these free
11:01 to hang in their schools.
11:02 We happen to have this church school here.
11:03 Yes, we do. Inside tract.
11:06 Well, you're one of the first to know,
11:08 but I want people to ask the teachers,
11:10 ask their principal, do we have it?
11:13 If we don't, we need it.
11:14 And it's available at no cost.
11:15 Take just a moment for our viewers
11:17 who are not familiar who...
11:19 I didn't paint these pictures. I didn't do them,
11:22 who, tell us a little bit about the artist?
11:23 Nathan Green is an incredible artist.
11:26 And he paints, in fact,
11:27 there's a picture right over here that
11:29 is one of his in your studio.
11:31 Nathan specializes in bringing things to life
11:35 out of Scripture especially,
11:37 and the Lamb of God
11:39 which is the one you have drawn on the wall.
11:41 But he was commissioned
11:42 about five years ago,
11:43 little over five years ago to create the days of creation,
11:47 one for every day.
11:48 And he has become
11:50 one of the preeminent artists in the world.
11:54 Top three in inspirational art
11:56 and he went from in the last 25-30 years
12:00 he has gone from
12:01 doing illustrations to being
12:02 one of the finest fine art painters.
12:04 And he did these seven
12:05 and we didn't even realize this is how God works.
12:07 We didn't realize we were gonna be doing
12:09 the Three Angels' Messages project after this.
12:12 And now it was all ready to go when we needed it.
12:16 And they are out there, we have them in our colleges,
12:18 all of our universities have access
12:20 to them in a larger format.
12:21 But we're trying to
12:23 draw people's attention to creation
12:25 because that's in the first angel's message.
12:26 Right, yes, yes. But it'd be okay.
12:29 I'm sorry. That's okay.
12:30 I was just gonna say would it be okay
12:32 for our viewers,
12:33 'cause most of our viewers worldwide
12:35 are not part of the Seventh-day Adventist Church,
12:37 probably we're guessing
12:38 95, 98% of our worldwide viewers.
12:41 Sure.
12:42 But the Three Angels Messages short in a nutshell,
12:45 found in Revelation 14.
12:48 And so, let me do this in a sentence or two,
12:51 it's an end times message to the world
12:54 about what's gonna happen.
12:56 You can have peace in the midst of the storm
12:58 if you understand the Three Angels' Message,
13:00 it's God's love story.
13:02 He's giving you in advance
13:04 so you can see into the future, and no matter.
13:06 So I tell people and I've been telling them for years,
13:09 they'll say, talk about the times
13:11 we're living in and all of these things
13:13 and I say, I'm not concerned, I've read the back of the book.
13:16 Said, I've read Revelation,
13:17 I've read the Three Angels' Messages.
13:20 So you may wanna look into that.
13:21 We have information here.
13:23 You're gonna get a lot of information today
13:26 because it's a love message,
13:28 a warning message to a lost and dying world.
13:31 But it gives each and every one of us
13:33 lets us know God loves
13:34 and cares and has a plan for us
13:36 to spend eternity with Him
13:38 and is one of the most beautiful messages
13:41 in all the world because it's really Jesus.
13:43 And Jesus is telling us in beautiful terms.
13:47 So I love the Three Angels' Messages.
13:50 As I said, I used to, I didn't know about that,
13:52 I could knew about dark,
13:53 but to see the love of God
13:55 and how He would foretell that.
13:57 So that we now living in the end times
14:00 can look at and say, wow, thank you Jesus.
14:03 Well, Danny, just response to that.
14:05 That's what this project is all about.
14:08 We want kids being able to understand
14:11 that the back of the book is filled with hope.
14:13 All right.
14:14 And we're very excited about what's happened and,
14:16 and maybe Sandy, whenever you're ready,
14:18 she can share how she responded
14:21 when we challenged her with this idea.
14:22 Okay. Okay.
14:24 Go ahead. Yes.
14:26 So I didn't expect to get this phone call.
14:28 And when I got it
14:30 and I was asked to write this curriculum,
14:32 my first thought was, I don't know if I can do this.
14:35 I mean, to write the Three Angels' Messages
14:37 for kindergarteners and all the way up.
14:40 I was going to actually turn it down.
14:43 And then I said let me pray about this,
14:44 and I prayed about it.
14:46 And that night when I was sleeping,
14:48 a little poem came into my head.
14:49 Okay.
14:51 And when I woke up, I grabbed a pencil
14:52 and I wrote it down exactly how God gave it to me
14:55 and it became our first book,
14:57 and we have a picture of it here that
14:58 we can show you.
15:00 That's the cover and then we have a picture
15:02 of the inside of it.
15:03 But I literally, Danny, I wrote it down exactly
15:08 how God gave it to me in word for word.
15:10 That's this book and kids now love it.
15:12 And we actually have a videotape
15:14 of a couple of kids that when their school
15:16 and you want to tell about their school,
15:17 Dan came on this school
15:19 and the kids had already memorized it.
15:20 They were so excited.
15:22 Whole first grade, the whole kindergarten class
15:23 had memorized the entire book, and they recited it for us.
15:26 You'll see this here, by the way,
15:27 this is the Greenville Adventist Academy
15:29 in Greenville, Tennessee.
15:30 They're teaching it from K through 12.
15:33 Oh, it's great. Yeah, so we'll show the video.
15:35 All right.
15:36 And that was my sign from God that,
15:38 yeah, you can do this,
15:40 because He just gave me that exact poem.
15:42 So I don't know if they wanna put it up.
15:44 And you can see a little video.
15:47 Three angels in the sky.
15:50 Oh my.
15:52 Oh my. Oh my.
15:55 Ready?
15:56 Let's see, again, my story.
15:59 First Angel, give God the glory.
16:05 He's always fair and good and true.
16:10 He'll do what's right for me and you.
16:16 He maybe is in an outer space.
16:20 Now go and tell in every place.
16:26 Second Angel, the city's going down,
16:31 watch out, be safe, get out of town.
16:36 Third Angel, be patient,
16:41 trust Jesus in light and in dark,
16:45 He'll always protect you like Noah in the ark.
16:50 Three angels in the sky to
16:54 show the love of God on high.
16:58 And when their stories said and done,
17:02 we'll all look up and see God's Son.
17:07 So how can I say no to God when He gave me that?
17:09 Good.
17:10 I just wrote it down word for word
17:12 and it just turned into the book
17:13 and now kids are all loving it.
17:14 So I said, "Okay, God,
17:16 I will do this but you have to lead me,"
17:18 you know, of course.
17:19 And so every time I wrote something,
17:21 I didn't know what I was gonna write next.
17:23 I didn't wanna know, it was too scary.
17:24 I mean, pre K, it turned out to be pre K
17:27 through senior year in high school.
17:29 I mean, our final unit,
17:31 we teach the kids how to be an evangelist,
17:33 and they go out and teach this themselves.
17:36 But I didn't even do the grade levels in order.
17:39 Whatever God gave me next, right?
17:40 When I was finishing one grade level,
17:42 I was starting to get really nervous.
17:43 He put it in my head.
17:45 And when it was time to go back and start writing,
17:47 I knew what I was gonna do for the next grade level.
17:49 Wow. Yeah. Yeah.
17:51 Look at how God provided for you.
17:54 He was really giving you that boost their faith as well,
17:59 letting you know that I've got you,
18:01 I'm gonna walk you through this whole process.
18:03 Very validated to my faith, to my faith personally, yes.
18:07 And to take something like the Three Angels' Messages
18:10 which as Danny said,
18:11 most people don't know or don't even know.
18:13 Yeah.
18:14 And to break it down for kids
18:16 like the city is going down, I love that.
18:18 I was like, what am I gonna do for you know,
18:20 Babylon has fallen, you know?
18:22 And we just teach the little ones,
18:24 if there's trouble get out of there.
18:26 Exactly. Get out of there.
18:28 If someone tries to tell you
18:29 to break one of God's commandments,
18:30 get out of there.
18:32 That's all they have to know at that young age.
18:33 That's right. You know?
18:34 You know, what's interesting to me, too,
18:36 is our kids are being
18:38 so indoctrinated in public schools
18:41 with just stuff that is just so anti-God.
18:44 Yes.
18:45 And here we have something that is so biblical that
18:49 we can give children,
18:51 so that they understand what's going on.
18:53 We're giving them truth, counteracting the counterfeit,
18:56 so to speak.
18:57 Yeah. Yeah. So, it's such a blessing.
19:00 And, you know, what's exciting too,
19:02 is we had a school that piloted everything,
19:05 and none of their children were Seventh-day Adventists.
19:08 And those kids loved it
19:09 and wanted to start keeping the Sabbath and everything,
19:12 so it worked even for kids who are not Adventists.
19:15 So it's kind of an evangelistic tool as well?
19:17 Yeah, it is.
19:18 So what about children who are in public schools,
19:22 whose parents want them to have this curriculum?
19:25 Is this available to anyone? You know what?
19:27 Now that you should mention that,
19:30 the ink is barely dry,
19:32 but just before I came here,
19:33 I just finished tweaking this
19:35 to make it really homeschool ready.
19:38 So you'll have to watch our website.
19:39 Be sure you subscribe to our website,
19:43 ThreeAngelsForKids.com because we'll let you know.
19:46 But this homeschool edition is now in production.
19:48 It is. Praise the Lord.
19:50 We want every child, every parent,
19:52 every grandparent that wants to make sure
19:54 their young people you know,
19:56 in fact, the Shema, I got to talk about the Shema.
20:00 You know the Jewish, our Jewish brothers and sisters
20:03 have the Shema
20:04 where they quote Deuteronomy 6:4 our God is One.
20:08 You shall love the Lord.
20:09 The Shema for the Seventh-day Adventist Church is fear God
20:11 and give glory to Him,
20:13 for the hour of His judgment has come,
20:14 the Three Angels' Messages.
20:15 And if we want to give our kids exposure to that,
20:18 we have created the way for that to happen
20:20 so that they're not afraid,
20:22 they're not freaked out about it.
20:23 Sandy will talk about that.
20:25 We're getting feedback that
20:26 this grace filled way of doing this which still calls
20:29 for obedience
20:30 and understanding the big issues,
20:32 the kids are responding and they're not afraid.
20:34 Yes. Yes.
20:36 I've actually had teachers
20:39 come to me when I do teacher training.
20:40 You know, I've done teacher trainings
20:42 all over the NAD already and this has just come out
20:44 and there's such a big interest.
20:46 I've had teachers come to me in tears saying,
20:48 "I wish we had this when I was younger."
20:51 You know because some people
20:52 have grown up with a fear about it, you know?
20:55 I actually created a mission statement,
20:57 if you want to put that up to remind myself
20:59 why I'm doing it.
21:01 And so my mission, I'm here to help students be
21:05 ready for Jesus to come
21:06 and to understand last day events
21:08 in the context of love, not fear.
21:10 Yes, yes.
21:11 And people just love that.
21:13 And we have our poster too if you wanna take a look
21:16 how do you teach
21:18 the Three Angels' Messages to children?
21:19 So if you want to show that poster,
21:21 I've had a lot of people say I wish we have this
21:25 for adults you know, so it's very basic you know.
21:29 Angel one, I don't know can you read it there,
21:31 Dan, if you want to read it?
21:32 I can't, I have to read it clearly.
21:34 I can't see that, I have to admit.
21:37 Danny, we thought Danny
21:39 was the only one but I have to admit,
21:40 I can't read it like if you have a big picture.
21:41 Little small, I don't think viewers can read it.
21:43 Yeah.
21:44 But you know when we say fear God,
21:47 it doesn't mean to be afraid of Him, of course.
21:49 So angel one, how do you teach
21:50 the judgment to little children?
21:52 You teach the judgment, God is always fair, trust Him,
21:56 He will do what's right.
21:57 So it's very broad brush you know.
21:59 Angel two, don't listen to people
22:01 when they tell you to do something wrong.
22:03 Angel three, use your mind to listen
22:05 for God's voice, use your hands to do
22:07 what God wants you to do.
22:09 Be patient, have faith, trust Jesus.
22:11 There's the Three Angels' Messages for kids.
22:13 Yes. There you go.
22:14 See that, to me this is huge because it's a crossover,
22:19 and when I'm talking about that,
22:22 our goal and our mission
22:23 as Seventh-day Adventist Christians
22:25 is to reach the world.
22:26 In 3ABN, we always say
22:27 with an undiluted Three Angels' Messages one would,
22:30 that would counteract the counterfeit.
22:33 So what you're doing is as I mentioned earlier,
22:36 I knew about, heard about three angels
22:38 but kind of scary,
22:40 but we actually two or three years ago
22:42 we commissioned some people to do a literally a music CD.
22:48 But one of the most well-known
22:51 would you say in America,
22:53 maybe around the world gospel, you know, songwriters.
22:56 He said, well, I don't know anything about,
22:59 so I want you to read it.
23:00 Now, of course, it's been,
23:01 he said just such a beautiful message.
23:03 But here's the thing.
23:04 He said, we need this because our churches we go
23:09 and we read everything except that.
23:12 We won't read Daniel and Revelation
23:14 because it's too scary.
23:15 Right.
23:16 So what you're doing is you're showing Jesus
23:19 in Daniel and Revelation
23:20 just like you would get it in John.
23:22 Everybody loves, any denomination.
23:24 They love Matthew, Mark, Luke, John,
23:26 but Daniel and Revelation we're scared of it.
23:29 So what you're doing is you're centering
23:31 this all around Jesus and His love for fallen man.
23:33 Yeah.
23:35 So to me, Dan, this thing should be
23:36 going to church any Christians everywhere,
23:40 I mean, we might look at possibilities
23:42 and even do a program of getting people involved
23:46 from other churches
23:47 because this is so important to get it out.
23:49 I just preached a sermon five reasons
23:51 to celebrate the judgment.
23:52 Okay. Oh, nice.
23:55 And, Danny, you're exactly right.
23:56 We're, you know, we're trying not to jump ahead of ourselves,
24:00 'cause we've done that before and it's not too good.
24:02 But we think that there is unlimited potential for this.
24:06 We're trying to get it in our schools first,
24:08 our homeschoolers, our families
24:09 and I think there are many Christians
24:12 who out there are saying this,
24:13 we have this but we have, but there's something missing.
24:17 Well just maybe we can guide them
24:19 to a little chapter in Revelation
24:21 called Revelation 14.
24:23 Absolutely.
24:24 And we can do it from a very basic level
24:26 for the kids that even adults, you know,
24:28 that poster that Sandy had up a minute ago.
24:30 That's, we boiled it down, you know,
24:32 it takes a lot more work to boil it down to a few words
24:35 than to expand it with lots of words
24:37 and this boil down
24:39 and so we think that it has huge potential
24:41 and only God knows how far this will go.
24:44 I just wanna make sure that we don't stand in the way.
24:46 That's right.
24:47 And their timing, you know,
24:49 it's God and like Him impressing you to do it.
24:50 Yeah.
24:51 The reason we know because we're excited
24:53 because this is life experiences
24:55 that we're experiencing.
24:56 There's another, I won't give his name,
24:58 but everybody would know it.
24:59 Wonder, to me, one of world's most renowned pianist.
25:03 And does gospel music, does, you know, all kinds of music.
25:08 He's been talking to us, he calls us and says,
25:11 we wanna know what's happening,
25:12 and for the future, and he says that
25:15 we're but we're gonna be raptured out.
25:18 We don't have to worry about any of that, right?
25:19 And so when we give him the news, no, it's like,
25:21 oh, no, I don't want to go through the tribulation.
25:24 Are you kidding me?
25:26 You know, we said, "No."
25:27 So we're studying
25:28 and what we're finding out the back of the book,
25:30 that's the most beautiful part of it
25:33 all is knowing the future.
25:35 The Three Angels Messages when you understand that,
25:38 now you go through
25:39 and you're not gonna be discouraged.
25:41 If you think you're not going through
25:42 any tribulation as soon as the devil hits you on,
25:45 ow, this is no fun, I'm gonna back away.
25:48 So knowing the back of the book and reading it,
25:51 so this to me, that's why this thing.
25:53 And, Dan, there's a reason the Three Angels' Messages,
25:56 it's a last day warning message
25:58 to a last generation on planet earth.
26:01 So putting it together,
26:02 whether it's music, like we've done,
26:04 John Lomacang's little book, this for kids.
26:07 And you did a song for children too that
26:09 broke down the Trinity which was really...
26:13 Music is powerful. It's amazing.
26:15 It is amazing.
26:16 The thing that is standing out to me too,
26:20 is that you are actually vindicating
26:22 God's character.
26:23 You're showing who God really is.
26:26 He's not a boogeyman. He's a God of love.
26:30 And you're showing this to children.
26:31 You don't have to be afraid of Him.
26:33 He loves you.
26:35 And so this is so important,
26:36 because it's showing who God really is.
26:39 Yeah, you know, I did, through Hope Lives 365 online.
26:44 I did a whole week of prayer for kids around the world.
26:46 We had over 200 devices tuning in from around the world.
26:50 And I put up some emojis and I asked kids,
26:53 pick one that shows
26:55 how you feel about the judgement,
26:56 and it was anonymous, an anonymous poll,
26:59 and most children picked the crying face.
27:02 And when I was finished with the week of prayer,
27:05 I asked them again, and they picked the heart.
27:07 Oh, yes, yes, yes.
27:10 The impact on kids is amazing.
27:12 And that's one thing.
27:14 You know, Sandy has been training all these teachers.
27:15 And by the way, we have full conferences
27:18 that are deploying this.
27:19 But not everybody is yet because it's pretty new.
27:22 But the impact on kids and I'm really looking forward
27:24 to her continuing to share about that,
27:26 because we want you to see
27:27 what you saw the kids give their recite.
27:30 But there's some other kids
27:31 that have dug into it a little deeper,
27:33 little older, it's pretty amazing.
27:34 Yeah. Just walk us through.
27:36 We're kind of getting, I'm getting all.
27:38 We got a lot of information again to through those pictures
27:40 and videos, whatever you got.
27:42 Yeah, yeah.
27:43 Let's look at the components of what we have.
27:44 So let's take a look at the pre K through two.
27:47 And we have beautiful artists.
27:48 This is a couple from Brazil that is doing all our artwork,
27:52 isn't that beautiful?
27:54 So we have our two, what we call anchor texts,
27:57 God makes a plan and three angels in the sky
27:59 for our pre K through two.
28:00 And we actually have them make paintings.
28:03 And we have some pictures of the kids
28:04 when I was piloting this,
28:06 doing their paintings, and they love it.
28:08 And we have them do crayon resist,
28:10 and we teach them.
28:11 What does it mean to resist?
28:13 Well, I can ask you, what does it mean to resist?
28:16 Or to avoid or... Yeah, yeah.
28:19 So if you're doing a crayon resist,
28:22 if you do your crayon on the paper,
28:25 and then you do a watercolor wash,
28:27 the paper is going to resist the crayon.
28:30 So if you make a white cloud,
28:31 you'll still see that white cloud,
28:33 but the paper will absorb the rest of the color.
28:36 So when we teach them that,
28:37 then we go to the text resist the devil
28:39 and he will flee from you and nigh to God,
28:41 He will draw nigh to you. Yes.
28:42 So we teach them. How do you resist?
28:44 And how do you do a crayon resist?
28:45 And they make these beautiful books.
28:47 And it turns out that parents love them.
28:49 They're their own.
28:50 The books are called Three Angels for Me.
28:52 Okay.
28:53 And so they illustrate and they make their paintings.
28:55 I had one parent that
28:56 like hugged the book close to herself.
28:58 She said, "Oh, I'm gonna keep this forever."
29:00 So that's something about our pre K through two,
29:02 then take a look at our grades three and four.
29:05 We have a story about a little girl
29:07 by the name of Beth and her life
29:09 just keeps tying into
29:10 the Three Angels Messages somehow.
29:12 It starts where she had been
29:14 going to the science fair
29:16 and her poster is blown out of her hands
29:18 and she's crying and she's embarrassed
29:20 and she doesn't want to go back to school
29:21 because her poster is messed up.
29:23 And when she finally goes back,
29:25 the school is clapping, what's going on?
29:28 They have retrieved the poster and they have cleaned it up.
29:30 And the teacher says this is a good introduction
29:32 to the Three Angels for kids.
29:35 I mean the Three Angels Messages,
29:36 I'm saying my own,
29:38 even in my company, I like it so much.
29:40 But anyway, she says, "What do you mean?"
29:43 And then the teacher talks about
29:45 how Jesus takes the mistakes
29:47 that we make and makes it beautiful again.
29:50 And then the little girl has gotten the date wrong,
29:52 she's so, well, that's okay, but I missed the science fair.
29:55 Oh, no, you got the date wrong.
29:56 Oh, that ties into
29:57 the Three Angels Messages as well,
29:59 and then they talked about the great disappointment.
30:01 So it all ties in through the book.
30:03 And I actually have a third and fourth grade teacher
30:05 who wanted to say,
30:06 a little validating something here.
30:08 These are our fifth and sixth grade materials.
30:10 But if we have the video,
30:11 we can show you the teacher that wanted to say something
30:14 about it that was in the pilot that
30:17 really loved it
30:18 when she taught it to third and fourth graders.
30:19 I don't know if you can pull that up.
30:21 Sure. Yeah, yeah.
30:22 Great. All right. Let's take a look.
30:24 There was a lot to love about the unit.
30:26 And I wanna start
30:27 with I loved how you made the Three Angels; Message
30:30 accessible to children.
30:32 I felt like a lot of them had no idea
30:34 what the Three Angels' Message was.
30:36 When we did our initial writing piece
30:39 where they were supposed to talk about
30:41 the Three Angels' Message,
30:42 most of them said, I don't know.
30:44 Yesterday, we read it.
30:46 And a lot of them wrote like
30:48 almost a full page on the things
30:50 that they've learned about Three Angels' Message.
30:52 So they were really able to internalize it
30:54 and understand its meaning.
30:58 A couple of my students were so excited
30:59 about the message that they went home,
31:01 and on their own started
31:03 studying the Book of Revelation,
31:04 and specifically the Three Angels' Message.
31:06 And then a couple of days later,
31:07 one of them came back and he was so excited
31:09 because he went even further and said,
31:11 "There's more, there's more to the story."
31:13 Yeah.
31:15 And I think that was a little boy
31:16 that was not a Seventh-day Adventist
31:17 that was so excited.
31:19 So and by the way,
31:20 that's West Coast Christian Academy.
31:22 That was April Noah, third and fourth grade teacher
31:25 down in Florida, where I live.
31:26 Yeah, yeah.
31:27 And then I think they did show you our fifth
31:29 and sixth grade materials.
31:31 So we can take a peek at those again,
31:32 but those are booklets.
31:33 There are 10 booklets.
31:35 And they are actually in sets of two.
31:37 And so the students read those two booklets
31:40 and then they get a question that has to do
31:41 with the Three Angels' Messages.
31:43 And so they tie it all together.
31:44 And you might be interested to know
31:46 that the first booklet Lost in the Jungle is about
31:49 my brother, Mark Finley,
31:51 when he was a student missionary,
31:53 and he got lost in the jungle
31:54 before the days of internet
31:56 or email or texting or anything.
31:58 GPS. Exactly. Exactly.
32:00 His job as a young student missionary
32:02 was to push somehow to get an ambulance
32:05 through the jungle terminals.
32:06 And I mean,
32:08 they went in the middle of places
32:09 where they were no other human beings.
32:11 Finally, they came across
32:13 some kind of an indigenous tribe there
32:15 and Mark did some kind of a barter
32:17 because he hadn't had food for days.
32:20 And so that we tie into bringing the gospel
32:22 to the whole world.
32:23 Okay.
32:25 And then the companion piece to that is about an older man,
32:28 Abraham LaRue, who brought the gospel to China
32:30 and then we asked them,
32:31 what does it take to be a missionary?
32:33 What does it take?
32:34 You know, and it's not about age, it's for sure.
32:37 You'll notice that there are 10 of those.
32:39 Yes. And that is an important point.
32:42 These are set for a two week curriculum.
32:44 Yes.
32:45 Okay So the teacher can put these in
32:47 into many different slots because it's gonna,
32:49 each one's gonna take at least two weeks
32:51 sometimes they'll stretch if they like it.
32:52 Yeah, that was good that you brought that up.
32:53 Yeah, it's fully endorsed
32:55 by the NAD North American Division,
32:57 sorry about the alphabet.
32:58 But it is fully endorsed by the North American Division,
33:03 they are very excited about it.
33:05 And it's something that a teacher
33:07 can just pick up and for two weeks
33:09 they get a break,
33:10 they can take a breath because we provide everything,
33:13 so it's very easy to do it and it's nice.
33:16 Some people like to do it
33:17 right before Christmas break or something, you know,
33:20 just to have a little time to relax
33:22 and we give you everything.
33:24 I have a heart for teachers
33:25 because I was an associate superintendent for 15 years,
33:27 so we give it to you and homeschoolers
33:29 we have your special edition as well.
33:32 If you want to take a look at grade seven and eight,
33:34 grade seven and eight our sponsors
33:36 said this is the grade level we want the whole enchilada,
33:40 very, a lot of detail in here
33:42 and so we integrated this one with social studies.
33:46 Okay.
33:47 So the students actually do a report
33:50 where they look through history and find a government,
33:54 a time when a government was mixing church and state
33:57 and it didn't go well
33:59 because God is the supreme ruler
34:01 and so they do a comparison there.
34:03 This is the complete message in grade seven and eight.
34:05 Complete. Oh, wow.
34:07 Good.
34:08 Yeah, if you want to show a picture,
34:09 we have a student debate
34:11 and so we have the student's debate,
34:13 can your lawyer and your judge be the same person?
34:15 Okay.
34:17 And then, of course,
34:18 we talk about in the conflict of the ages,
34:21 the conflict of the interest is the best thing
34:24 because our lawyer and our judge
34:25 is the same person,
34:27 he's on our side, he wants us to win.
34:28 That's right.
34:29 Okay, and we have a little clip also from a boy here.
34:32 Again, this is West Coast Christian
34:34 where he did a lot of our piloting
34:36 that just a short little thing that's this little boy
34:39 has to say that
34:40 I think your viewers will like to see.
34:43 I learned about the Three Angels' Messages.
34:46 Now I'm ready for Jesus to come.
34:51 That's precious. Yeah, yeah.
34:53 So that's the elementary school
34:55 and then we have grades 9 through 12.
34:57 When I finished writing the elementary I was like,
34:59 oh my God, I'm gonna be done,
35:00 and they were like
35:02 you need to do one for high school,
35:03 and then I started thinking,
35:04 you know, I don't even know if I told you this,
35:06 but I thought I'm gonna make myself
35:07 make this easier, I'll just call it a micro unit.
35:09 Well then once I did that,
35:11 I ended up having to write four micro units,
35:13 and then one full semester.
35:15 So the last one, we teach you how to be an evangelist.
35:18 What I did is I took
35:19 Mark Finley's Three Cosmic Messages book,
35:21 and I watched all his videos.
35:24 And I'm a qualitative researcher,
35:26 that's I love qualitative, you know,
35:27 you just kind of look at something
35:28 and draw out your themes.
35:30 And I thought,
35:31 what is he doing to make this effective preaching,
35:33 and then we teach the kids, you know,
35:35 have an awareness of your audience.
35:37 You know, all of that.
35:38 And then they go on for and do their own
35:41 Three Cosmic Messages evangelistic series.
35:43 So the high school is where
35:45 we do our deep dives, deep dives.
35:46 Yeah.
35:48 There's one for every year,
35:49 plus the honors unit is that last one,
35:51 for the serious students,
35:53 and it could actually be a college preaching class.
35:56 Oh, yeah.
35:58 It could be a college preaching class.
35:59 On homiletics. On homiletics.
36:01 It lays out all and it shows video examples.
36:03 I just want to say,
36:05 Sandy has recorded these stories and audio
36:06 so it's audio visual, this is not just print.
36:08 Okay.
36:09 And so we will actually show a clip out of the presentation,
36:13 we taped right here 3ABN of Mark preaching
36:15 and it'll say, here's what he's doing.
36:17 Take note of this.
36:19 So you're gonna need to put that component
36:20 into your presentation Nice.
36:21 And this is complete thing.
36:23 So when you're done,
36:24 we should talk to some of the colleges
36:25 about giving some college credit for this
36:27 because it's that good.
36:28 Oh, yeah. Wow.
36:29 Yeah, we have one school that has done it.
36:33 Remember, you suggested that school.
36:34 What was the name of that school?
36:36 That school was
36:37 is one of our supporting ministry schools,
36:38 Steve Dickman's Academy up in Harbert Hills.
36:43 And they actually had their kids
36:45 go out train with this and go out
36:46 and conduct evangelistic series
36:48 using those 13 presentations from Three Cosmic Messages.
36:52 Okay.
36:53 And they have kids from all different countries.
36:54 So they each did it in their own language
36:57 for their language group.
36:58 Yeah. How has this impacted you?
37:01 Me personally, it's been very faith building,
37:03 you know, and I've had some other experiences
37:07 with building my faith through it.
37:08 One thing was that years ago, I wrote a little book called,
37:14 what's the second book now?
37:16 God Made the World,
37:17 God Makes a Plan, God Makes a Plan.
37:19 And when I made that book,
37:21 I chose certain pictures only
37:23 because you know, if you're an amateur photographer
37:25 once in a while you get it right,
37:26 but you can't count on yourself.
37:27 Isn't that right, you know?
37:29 So I had a really good picture of a tiger.
37:31 And I had a really good picture of an ape.
37:33 So I put it in the book.
37:35 Apes Gazed Tigers Blazed.
37:39 Well, when we did this program, we decided to use that
37:42 but we have a wonderful designer,
37:44 Mark Bond is our art designer.
37:46 And so he got some really good professional pictures.
37:49 Well, we put in some Nathan Green pictures.
37:51 And if you look at those pictures
37:53 that you have there on the wall,
37:55 and God is making man who is looking on at the side,
37:59 on one side is an ape, and on one side is a tiger.
38:03 And here years ago, I wrote this little book
38:06 and it said Apes Gazed Tigers Blazed.
38:08 And God was preparing for that.
38:10 So there were so many things.
38:12 And since you asked that,
38:13 I do wanna tell you another one
38:15 that happened was when I wrote the book
38:16 about the little girl, her life keeps becoming
38:20 like something connected to the Three Angels' Messages.
38:24 I thought, I wanna have her dad
38:26 the police officer with a Sabbath problem,
38:29 you know, somebody.
38:30 And I remembered that 30 years before
38:33 at least 30 years before my...
38:34 I guess I'm giving away my age here.
38:36 But there you go. Now it's out there.
38:39 You're among friends. Right.
38:43 My husband's a pastor and a member of his church
38:47 was a police officer with a Sabbath problem.
38:49 And again, this would always
38:50 come to my head in the night when I was sleeping.
38:52 So the next morning, I said, Eric,
38:54 do you happen to remember
38:55 when you had this police officer
38:57 that had Sabbath problems?
38:58 And his jaw was to the floor? I said, what?
39:01 And he said, I have not thought about
39:02 that for decades but yesterday I found the file.
39:05 He gave me the file that thick. Wow.
39:08 And I went through all of that paperwork
39:11 and wrote that chapter.
39:13 So those are three different things
39:14 that I've told you today.
39:16 So it's been very faith building.
39:17 It's been very humbling.
39:19 I tend to be an extrovert and I said,
39:20 it's all Dan's fault, I was quarantined
39:22 before it was even a thing.
39:24 Yes, I've been in a chair writing.
39:26 An extrovert or introvert?
39:27 No I'm a natural extrovert,
39:29 and I've been writing for years now.
39:32 She's been behind that screen, look at that.
39:33 Yeah.
39:35 Before the pandemic even happened,
39:36 I was quarantined because I was writing.
39:38 So it's been very humbling.
39:41 Because it's like, okay, you know,
39:43 you're just behind the scenes, writing, just be good,
39:46 just do it or get out of the chair.
39:48 God's got a work for you to do so.
39:50 So that's been, you know,
39:52 quite an interesting part of it.
39:55 But we've had a big interest not just among church schools
39:57 has been, you know,
39:59 we've had the home school market.
40:00 We even have some pictures of homeschoolers.
40:03 And you know, this has gone so well.
40:05 These are actually the grandchildren
40:07 of our project assistant, this has gone so well.
40:09 We've hired Yvette Cooper to be our project assistant
40:13 and her daughter, Ninea, homeschools her children.
40:16 And so we wanted to show
40:17 these little homeschool children,
40:19 you see the little one and all of that.
40:21 Yeah, so we have a very big interest.
40:23 And again, we have our online classes,
40:28 we have our North American Division endorsements.
40:31 So it's just going in so many directions.
40:33 I don't know,
40:35 should we tell him about the animations at all?
40:36 Well, we can do that in just a second.
40:37 Before we get the animations,
40:39 I think it would be cool to just talk about
40:41 the different experiences you've had, Sandy,
40:43 in the different conferences
40:45 where you've been working with teachers.
40:46 Give a few reports on a couple of teachers?
40:48 Yes, yes, yes.
40:49 That has been very exciting.
40:51 You know, with the pandemic,
40:52 there has been a different kind of response.
40:55 How do you do these trainings, but some ways, you know,
40:58 it works out better,
40:59 because you can do more maybe than you could.
41:01 But I've done some in person.
41:03 And we've done some Zoom meetings with teachers.
41:07 And we do, people are very grateful,
41:09 they are thanking me,
41:10 you know, every time I do this, and actually we do have a video
41:14 of myself doing a Zoom.
41:16 And this was in the Southwest Regional Conference
41:19 and the Southwest Regional Conference.
41:22 I really have to hand it to them,
41:23 because they got behind this.
41:25 This was Buford Griffith, he's from Montana.
41:27 Do you know him? I was in college with him.
41:29 Oh, my goodness. He's a go-getter.
41:31 He jumped right on this thing. I tell you what?
41:33 And he said, we're gonna do it,
41:35 we're gonna do it for everybody.
41:36 We're gonna do a conference wide,
41:37 every teacher is gonna start the school year for this.
41:40 Not only that,
41:41 he said we're gonna get the pastors involved.
41:44 So he said, because they're gonna need
41:46 to work with people and so the pastors
41:49 and the teachers came on Zoom and you know what?
41:52 That was for a whole day practically.
41:55 Because what I did was we had everybody together,
41:58 I gave him the philosophy.
41:59 I gave him the overview,
42:01 and then, okay, pre K through two stay on.
42:03 And we worked with them.
42:04 We put them in separate Zoom rooms.
42:06 They got involved in different activities
42:09 we had them do, and then we would have
42:11 the third and fourth graders.
42:13 Yeah, so we do have the clip.
42:14 Yeah. We should see that.
42:16 The pastor that was validating this whole thing.
42:19 Good.
42:20 Elder Griffin, can I say real quick, man,
42:22 I really enjoyed the presentation.
42:25 I think this is fantastic.
42:27 I can't say enough about it in terms of the value
42:30 it would be for us in children's ministries.
42:33 And I suspect that it's because it's contextualized
42:36 for the kids is gonna benefit a lot of adults too,
42:39 because they'll work their way
42:42 with progressive revelation from understanding the basics,
42:47 moving on up so much success to this program.
42:50 Amen. Yeah.
42:51 That used to be my conference when I was in Dallas.
42:53 Is that right? Yeah.
42:54 Wow.
42:55 And we were pretty impressed with how they jumped on this.
42:58 They recognize you when you do something
43:00 like this you really appreciate it
43:02 when someone recognizes what it is,
43:04 and they did.
43:05 Yeah. Now there's been others.
43:07 I mean, I look at North Pacific,
43:08 I look at you know,
43:10 different areas around our country.
43:12 And teachers, I've...
43:14 Sandy will tell me about the teachers
43:15 and sometimes I will have opportunity
43:16 to hear from them.
43:18 And it's just like, finally,
43:19 we have something that is
43:21 within our own belief structure.
43:23 We're not having to rewrite something
43:24 somebody else did somewhere.
43:26 And this is talking about the core issue.
43:27 Yeah.
43:28 And so that has been very rewarding to me
43:30 and I noticed Sandy as well.
43:31 Yeah, something else I did,
43:34 because I have a heart for teachers
43:35 and I have a heart for teaching children to read.
43:38 You know, I never planned on getting a doctorate
43:41 or anything like that in our family.
43:43 My dad was actually a high school dropout,
43:46 because he was just passed around
43:48 from relative to relative,
43:50 he went to 17 schools in 11 years,
43:52 had a very hard background.
43:53 But then he started
43:55 his own business and everything.
43:56 But I never planned on getting a doctorate.
43:59 But it turned out that
44:00 my own son was struggling to read
44:03 and I was trying to figure my own son out.
44:05 And that's why I went and ended up
44:07 getting a degree in special education
44:09 on the doctoral level.
44:10 So I just have this passion for kids
44:13 that are trying to learn to read
44:14 and teachers that are trying to figure out
44:15 what to do about it.
44:17 So there is curriculum embedded in this is the Bible
44:22 and teaching children to read
44:23 and teaching children to become better writers is all in it.
44:26 And when I did the third and fourth grade,
44:28 you know I'm coming along, I had the idea for this book,
44:31 God put it in my mind.
44:32 In fact, I'm writing a sequel now that He put in my mind.
44:36 I got about five chapters in
44:37 and God said, you know what, Sandy?
44:40 There could be some kids in that class
44:41 that are struggling readers.
44:43 I thought now what am I going to do
44:45 and I was using a tool.
44:46 It's called Flesch-Kincaid that you can put
44:49 any piece of writing in and see what grade level
44:51 you're writing at.
44:53 And the reason I was using it. I don't wanna do that.
44:56 I better be aware what she said.
44:58 Don't be looking me in my book, and grade in on that.
45:01 What would be your guess?
45:03 What do you think that like,
45:04 Reader's Digest or something like that?
45:05 What do you think the average reading level
45:07 for the average person is on?
45:09 That's like a grade level now?
45:10 Yeah. What grade level do you think?
45:11 Like six to eight or something. Yeah, exactly.
45:14 Good for you. Yeah. Yeah.
45:15 Like Reader's Digest anything like that is the seventh grade,
45:18 seventh grade reading level is what's pitched to anything.
45:21 For adults there's usually some grade reading level.
45:23 I haven't been reading that Reader's Digest lately.
45:26 But your average magazine or something seventh grade.
45:28 Yeah.
45:30 So anyway, you know,
45:31 how do I write something for third and fourth?
45:33 So what I did was,
45:34 I read a lot of books on third and fourth.
45:36 So I was thinking like that.
45:38 And then I would write a chapter,
45:39 then I would put it into Flesch-Kincaid,
45:41 and it would tell me like 3.2, okay,
45:43 I'm on, that's third grade, second month.
45:46 But if it was too high,
45:47 then you'd have to do two things,
45:49 you have to take the vocabulary down,
45:50 and you have to take the sentence structure down.
45:53 And then if it was too low, you have to bring it up.
45:55 So I did that for five chapters.
45:57 And the Lord said, well, Sandy,
45:58 you got to write it on a lower reading level.
46:00 Now I'm like, it was bad as Dan,
46:02 give me trained literature.
46:05 So when I did, I wrote those first five chapters
46:08 on a second grade reading level,
46:09 I kept getting it down to very basic vocabulary.
46:13 And then after that, the book is 20 chapters long,
46:16 every time I did a chapter, I did it in third and fourth,
46:18 and I did in second grade.
46:20 Well, then the Lord said that, Sandy,
46:21 there could be some gifted readers in that class.
46:24 I was like, oh, so then I wrote it a third time.
46:27 So if you order our third and fourth grade curriculum,
46:30 it's written on a second grade reading level,
46:32 it's written on a third and fourth grade reading level,
46:34 it's written on fifth and sixth.
46:36 So those multi grade, I've had multi grades,
46:38 somebody in a one rates, one room, say it for me one...
46:42 One room schoolhouse. Thank you.
46:45 Did that curriculum, and every kid loved it,
46:47 like they get so excited about it.
46:49 In those booklets for grades five and six,
46:52 it's the same thing.
46:53 They're written on three different reading levels
46:55 inside the booklets.
46:56 And the reason teachers like it is that
46:58 they don't have to give you a different passage to read,
47:01 we can all talk about the same material,
47:03 it's accessible to everybody.
47:05 Yes. My brain is kind of, going...
47:08 You know, I'm thinking about... Try Writer's Ally.
47:10 On the literacy thing.
47:12 Oh, man.
47:15 If you can't read, you can't do anything.
47:16 Exactly. So this is so critical.
47:19 I'm thinking about people
47:20 who are incarcerated who can't really read,
47:23 who would benefit so beautifully from this on
47:27 so many different levels,
47:28 like you can start them out at a lower level.
47:31 So I mean, this could be an amazing.
47:33 We think, Yvonne,
47:35 we think there are many different applications
47:37 as example some that have already happened.
47:39 We have a school in Madison,
47:40 Tennessee, and our academy there.
47:42 They decided this summer to make it the VBS.
47:44 They crafted it and made it
47:45 a VBS program, Sabbath schools.
47:47 Yes.
47:48 Sabbath schools, or even Sunday schools,
47:51 they write out.
47:52 You know, this could be used
47:54 in a church Sabbath program verynicely.
47:57 So we think that there are many different things
47:58 now that the core has done.
48:00 That's why I've been telling Sandy, okay,
48:01 the core is gonna get done.
48:03 But what you're going to be amazed at what God does.
48:04 Give me one piece of time,
48:06 now that the core is done,
48:07 we're doing the second wave of the core.
48:09 I'm already writing more curriculum.
48:11 And one thing we forgot to tell them
48:13 too was about the international.
48:14 That's right.
48:16 You know, I was at as DESA,
48:19 where you have administrators of education,
48:21 and I met some people from Germany,
48:23 and they became so excited that
48:25 they asked us to do this in German.
48:27 And so we did the third and fourth grade level.
48:30 And I presented this online to Bogenhofen University
48:34 in Austria to the education majors.
48:36 So when the education majors
48:38 in Austria get out into the field,
48:40 that's what they're going to be doing is Three Angels.
48:43 That's great. Yeah and Burton...
48:46 Burton Wattenberg Conference?
48:48 Wattenberg, I think that's right.
48:49 I won't try to figure that one.
48:53 So it's going international, which worldwide take
48:55 the Three Angels' Messages into all the world.
48:58 Jesus said, "Go ye into all the world."
48:59 Now the only enemy we have here today is the clock.
49:02 And so what I want to do,
49:04 now we've done thousands of programs,
49:06 but it's not fair of you two to come in
49:09 and tell u these great stories
49:10 without telling us how we can participate.
49:13 So we need... Sandy go for us.
49:15 So tell us out all of our viewers
49:17 and we can all help you.
49:18 Yes, please go to our website, ThreeAngelsForKids.com
49:24 and you wanna scroll down on that first page,
49:27 and you wanna subscribe to the website.
49:29 So then anytime we put out something new,
49:31 you will be in the know.
49:33 If you click on shop,
49:35 you will see all of our resources there
49:37 and you'll see the grade levels on the left side
49:40 and you just go to your grade level.
49:42 And very soon
49:43 we'll have our special homeschool
49:44 button on there.
49:46 So you wanna go right to ThreeAngelsForKids.com
49:49 You can also go to our Facebook page,
49:52 which is Three Angels for...
49:54 No, Facebook.com/ThreeAngelsForKids
49:58 Facebook.com/ThreeAngelsForKids
50:01 We post things there as those things are happening.
50:04 And we also have classes on HopeLives365BibleStudy.com
50:09 for children, so there's a lot going on.
50:12 So you wanna be sure to subscribe to the website,
50:15 you want to be sure to get over to our Facebook page,
50:17 and look at those classes on Hope Lives 365.
50:20 We also have a free week of prayer videos
50:24 under the resources
50:25 on our ThreeAngelsForKids.com website.
50:29 Now, I just want to say,
50:31 she recorded a complete week of prayer
50:35 that any school can use those videos
50:37 for a week of prayer on the Three Angels Messages.
50:39 Thank you very much. Just about gone.
50:40 We're gonna go to news break in a minute,
50:43 we'll come back with a closing thought.
50:45 But I have one suggestion
50:48 'cause I still want to help some more.
50:50 I like all of this.
50:52 But do you have a Donate button on that website?
50:54 If you don't... Oh, we need to do that.
50:55 We need to put the Donate button.
50:56 You don't, you need a Donate button
50:58 because I know our viewers and when they get behind
50:59 something it's in a big way.
51:00 Okay. So I believe we have...
51:02 You know, I think that might be happening real soon, Danny.
51:04 This is a takeaway from 3ABN today.
51:08 There you go. Thank you.
51:09 Absolutely.
51:10 Donate, I'm happy about all this,
51:12 but I wanna donate how do I do it?
51:14 So on that website we'll be able to do it.
51:16 So listen, thank you so much, both of you for coming.
51:19 And, Dan, you've been for many, many years and going back
51:22 and glad Karen got to see her today too.
51:24 But we're gonna just take what we're gonna do
51:27 is take a little news break, little short break,
51:29 but we'll be back for a closing thought.
51:32 If you would like more information
51:33 about Heart Research Center,
51:35 you can write to them at PO Box. 2377,
51:39 Fallbrook, California 92088.
51:42 That's Heart Research Center,
51:44 PO Box, 2377, Fallbrook, California 92088.
51:51 You can call them at (760) 723-8082
51:55 That's (760) 723-8082 or you can find them online
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