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00:02 we're living in unprecedented times. 00:05 Join us now for Today special program. 00:12 I want to spend my life 00:18 Mending broken people 00:23 I want to spend my life 00:29 Removing pain 00:34 Lord, let my words 00:39 Heal a heart that hurts 00:44 I want to spend my life 00:50 Mending broken people 00:55 I want to spend my life 01:00 Mending broken people 01:15 Hello, I'm Shelley Quinn 01:17 and we welcome you to 3ABN Today. 01:20 You will be very glad 01:24 that you watched this program. 01:26 Today, we're excited to announce 01:29 that we have a new series. 01:32 A series, I'm not gonna tell you the title yet, 01:35 but a series that will sound an alarm, 01:41 but also give a solution 01:43 to a problem that is ubiquitous, 01:47 it's everywhere. 01:49 And this new series is so relevant to our time. 01:54 It is something that is important for adults, 01:58 for teenagers, for young children. 02:00 And it's something you need to know. 02:03 So we're so glad that you've joined us. 02:06 And let me introduce you to someone 02:09 that I've come to love over the last 02:12 as a brother in Christ over the last week, 02:15 just getting to know him better. 02:17 And that is Scott Ritsema 02:19 who is the host of our new series, 02:22 Digital Disconnect. 02:23 Scott, we're so glad that you're here today. 02:26 Shelley, the feeling is mutual when I'm at 3ABN, 02:29 I feel like I have come among family. 02:31 And what a wonderful time we've had this week 02:33 with the programs that God has led 02:35 and opened the door 02:37 and really inspired us to seek solutions 02:40 during these really difficult times 02:42 with our media use and our kids' media use 02:45 Digital Disconnect. 02:47 Yes. And it's something that... 02:49 just go ahead, we'll tease to this just a little bit. 02:52 Digital Disconnect, 02:53 if you had to say, 02:55 okay, this is what the series is about in 50 words or less, 02:59 what would you say this series is about? 03:02 Everywhere I go 03:03 people are saying the same thing. 03:05 Our kids are struggling with media. 03:07 We don't seem to know how to get a handle on it. 03:10 So what is the true nature of the problem 03:12 and what are God's solutions to our media addictions, 03:16 our mental health crisis, and our day to day struggles 03:20 with finding the right balance 03:22 in using media to God's glory 03:24 and not getting captured by the worldly media 03:27 or the addictions of these days. 03:28 Amen. And addiction is a powerful word. 03:31 It's not Scott's word. 03:34 You are going to see in this program, 03:38 there are so many studies. 03:39 What I appreciate about Scott is 03:41 he's been doing this for many years. 03:43 He stays current, 03:45 but there are many industry studies. 03:48 There are many psychiatrist 03:50 and different groups, medical groups. 03:53 And even within the industry itself 03:55 who are sounding an alarm saying, 03:58 boy, we didn't expect this. 04:00 There is not just for the children. 04:02 There is an addictive element in it 04:05 that absolutely influences us too. 04:09 Before we jump into this, 04:11 Scott, I know how much you love music. 04:15 We know how much you love music. 04:17 And today we have with us Pat Koh, 04:21 and she's on the piano. 04:22 She will be playing "Seek Ye First." 07:43 Thank you, Pat. That was beautiful. 07:45 Well, if you're joining us just a little late today, 07:48 our special guest is Scott Ritsema, 07:52 who is the founder and director 07:53 of Belt of Truth Ministries. 07:56 But we've heard of you, Scott, for so long, 07:58 and you've actually been here a couple of times before, 08:01 but we've heard of your teachings. 08:04 So we were so excited 08:06 to have you come do this new series. 08:08 Now, before we get into the series 08:11 and talk about that, 08:12 let's let our audience get to know you. 08:15 Tell us a little bit about growing up. 08:17 Was it a Christian home? 08:18 What kind of kid were you? 08:20 I was blessed to grow up to know the Lord Jesus. 08:22 I grew up in a Christian home and went to Christian school. 08:26 And so I never remember life without knowing of the Lord God 08:30 and the creator God. 08:31 Was it a Seventh-day Adventist Christian home? 08:33 I grew up in a Christian reformed home. 08:35 So it was Bible believing 08:37 and came to a knowledge of the seventh day Sabbath 08:39 later in life, 08:40 which was just an added blessing 08:42 as I grew into a knowledge of the truths for our time 08:45 in these last days. 08:46 But, you know, I remember as a kid being told that, 08:49 see the clouds up in the sky, 08:50 you know, Jesus is gonna come on the clouds of heaven. 08:53 So I guess I've always been an Adventist, 08:55 believing in the advent. 08:57 Okay. 08:58 So what kind of a kid were you? 09:00 Well, early on, it was, all was good 09:03 and teachers were happy 09:06 with my participation in school. 09:07 And so on teenage hood 09:09 is where I got in the wrong crowd 09:11 and got involved 09:12 with the wrong types of activities 09:13 and really went down the road of rebellion 09:15 against God's will in my life. 09:17 And ironically, 09:19 my theology was all twisted out. 09:20 I thought that I was still saved 09:22 and a Christian, even though 09:24 I was just totally living in rebellion against God 09:26 and knowing that I was open rebellion 09:29 and the music I was listening to. 09:31 And so, I really needed to have a repentance 09:36 from that worldliness 09:38 that I had gotten into playing in a rock band 09:42 and watching whatever movies I wanted to. 09:44 So, you know, a lot of it was media. 09:46 I think a lot of people's story 09:47 when they get into worldliness 09:49 is they need to repent of their media use 09:52 to really come into a relationship 09:55 with Jesus Christ 09:56 and I wasn't during, during those years. 09:58 So it was a dark period in terms of the spiritual life 10:03 and praise God, He can bring you out of, 10:06 even several years of that, that I was in. 10:09 And He plucked me out of the world. 10:11 Yeah. 10:12 I always tell people when I rebelled, 10:14 He chased me down. 10:15 Exactly. 10:17 So when did you really grow into that personal connection 10:21 that you have with the Lord. 10:23 Now, when did you become a Seventh-day Adventist? 10:25 How did you become 10:27 a Seventh-day Adventist Christian? 10:28 Those two questions really do connect, 10:30 that personal relationship with Jesus Christ 10:32 that deep love of God 10:34 and wanting to serve Him 10:35 with all my heart and with all my life came 10:37 at the same time that I was coming into 10:39 the Seventh-day Adventist movement, 10:40 because the picture of God's love 10:43 that was portrayed and given 10:45 as I understood 10:46 what's going on between Christ and Satan 10:48 and why is there evil and pain and suffering 10:50 in the universe? 10:51 And is God all powerful and all loving at the same time 10:55 and helping to sort out those questions 10:58 of why is there pain and suffering? 11:00 And God has a solution 11:02 and how the enemy is the one responsible 11:04 for the pain that exists, 11:07 and then understanding the nature of the second death 11:12 and hell fire 11:13 and what that really is about and what it's not about. 11:16 And so a picture of God's love really was being revealed to me 11:19 as I came to understand Bible truth, 11:21 as I understand it today. 11:23 And that just makes you love God more. 11:24 Amen. 11:25 So when you went to college, your major was, 11:28 you had a double major 11:29 of history and political science? 11:31 History was the degree in undergrad. 11:34 And then in my postgraduate, my master's, 11:36 it was history, political science, economics. 11:38 And economics. Yeah. 11:40 So I know you're married three kids. 11:42 Tell us a little bit about the family? 11:43 Oh, that's the fun part. And then your early career? 11:45 Yeah. 11:46 My wife and I have three kids, two boys and a girl. 11:50 How old are they? 11:51 They are nine and seven and three. 11:52 Okay. 11:54 And, so we love being outdoors together, gardening. 11:56 We live in the country, we're so blessed 11:58 to homeschool our kids 11:59 and just be able to be together a lot. 12:01 And they say hello by the way, to you, 12:04 they missed seeing you this time. 12:05 But early career I was a teacher. 12:09 I taught high school, 12:10 I taught history, government economics. 12:12 And that was a great joy. 12:14 I still, am interested in history 12:16 and things that pertain to current events 12:19 and political science issues. 12:20 So got into teaching Bible 12:24 later on in my teaching career. 12:25 And that was around the time 12:27 that I was coming to a knowledge of the truth 12:28 as I understand it today, the truth as it is in Jesus. 12:31 So that was a great joy to be able to teach Bible 12:34 at an academy level. 12:36 And so that was the, I guess what you'd say, 12:37 the early career. 12:39 I love the story that you shared 12:40 during the production of the series 12:42 when you were telling about being in Israel. 12:44 Tell that real quick about the children being told. 12:47 Okay. 12:48 At the very last minute, no media, tell us that? 12:50 Yeah. Okay. 12:51 So the music teacher takes the students on a music tour, 12:54 a mission trip. 12:55 He's there planning the event 12:57 and it's gonna be over spring break. 12:58 And then another week, and well Scott, 13:00 would you like to come? 13:01 You're the Bible teacher. You can do chaplain duties. 13:03 Would I like to come, it was Ireland. 13:04 Wow. 13:05 My wife's always wanted to see Ireland. 13:07 Can she come? 13:08 And so we'll have an experience serving God together 13:09 in that beautiful country. 13:11 Well, the music teacher broke it to the students 13:13 about a week before 13:14 you're not bringing your phones. 13:16 And they had almost a revolt, 13:18 because you know, 13:19 we're so addicted to these devices. 13:21 These young people could not live. 13:22 They could not live without their phones. 13:23 How we're gonna call our parents. 13:25 Well, we'll have a device, we'll have one phone. 13:26 Everybody can take turns, call their parents on it. 13:29 And so anyway, they went on the trip. 13:31 We had a fabulous time, wonderful time 13:33 ministering in the country of Ireland, singing. 13:35 The students sang beautiful music 13:37 in beautiful places. 13:38 And there were miracles that we witnessed. 13:40 And then at the end we had a little debriefing session. 13:43 Everybody sits in a circle and we talk about 13:44 how God has blessed and how we've grown together 13:46 and grown closer to Him 13:48 and students are sharing, raise your hand and share, 13:50 you know, what do you appreciate? 13:52 What most stands out to you? 13:53 And I couldn't believe it, 13:54 after all the amazing things we went through. 13:56 The number one comment 13:57 that I heard again and again from students 13:59 and not the only comment, 14:00 but it was the most frequent thing 14:02 they said was 14:03 Mr. Kay, we thank you 14:05 that you made us keep our phones at home. 14:06 So after that, 14:08 it's like you come out of the grip 14:10 of that addictive cycle, 14:11 where you're in that anxiety and fear of missing out 14:15 as they call it on social media, 14:16 you have smartphone loss anxiety disorder, 14:19 as they call it in science publications. 14:21 And they get a couple of weeks to just detox from it. 14:24 And they are so appreciative 14:26 that you took that away from them for their good 14:29 and you grow together. 14:31 They said, we, we, 14:32 our relationships are better deeper. 14:34 We feel like we have more fun. 14:36 And we're not all sitting on our phones 14:37 doing our own thing. 14:39 That's fabulous. 14:40 Now is this are instances like this, 14:43 and I haven't asked you this yet, 14:44 but how did you make a switch from being a history teacher, 14:51 a Bible teacher 14:53 into the Belt of Truth Ministries 14:57 that you founded? 14:58 Was the impetus in part 15:02 for the Media on the Brain series 15:05 that Scott does? 15:07 Was this from your experience with young people? 15:10 Absolutely because I saw my own students 15:12 just getting deeper and deeper into the problems of media 15:16 and, you know, I promote media use, 15:17 we're using media now. 15:19 Our ministry is in the media production ministry. 15:21 We have, we do DVDs and stuff. 15:23 So it wasn't like 15:24 we shouldn't be utilizing screens and tools 15:27 to God's glory. 15:28 You know, that would be a problem 15:29 equivalent to the problem we face 15:31 if we weren't preaching the gospel using media. 15:33 So, but I did see them in worldly media 15:37 and just negative dynamics and cycles 15:40 that they were finding themselves in. 15:41 So I wanted to share with them 15:42 and I was gathering information, 15:44 pulling information together to share with them. 15:45 And so that actually one thing leads to another 15:47 and local pastors are asking me to preach on the same topic 15:50 'cause all the families and all of us need this, 15:52 it's not just the young people. 15:54 And then that leads to camp meetings 15:56 at the conference level, 15:57 and then many churches that were at the camp meeting say, 15:59 can you do the seminar for us? 16:00 Can you do the seminar for us? 16:01 So Media on the Brain, as you mentioned, 16:04 was birthed out of that experience 16:05 of ministering to young people and seeing their own needs. 16:09 And people become liberated 16:10 by information that is empowering. 16:12 It's not condemning, it's not preaching at them. 16:15 It's, you know, this is the, 16:16 these are the effects of this media, 16:18 scientifically, factually, 16:19 and here are the tools and the choices we can make 16:22 to break free from that. 16:23 So it was a great joy 16:25 to go into full-time speaking ministry 16:26 on the heels of that. 16:27 You know, and I believe you said 376 churches before COVID? 16:31 Yes. Can you believe that? 16:32 He spoke at 376 churches before COVID struck, 16:39 if I'll say struck. 16:41 And now you do some virtual seminars 16:44 and camp meetings and things. 16:47 Tell us just a little bit 16:50 about your Media on the Brain and you started that 2012? 16:56 Yep. Okay. 16:57 Yeah, 2012. 16:58 I mean, we were already deep into it 17:00 as far as, you know, social media smartphones, 17:02 but mainly Media on the Brain 17:05 was focusing on the worldliness of the entertainment industry. 17:09 And so it was, you know, we wanna be sanctified. 17:11 We wanna... 17:12 The Bible says come apart and be separate, 17:14 saith the Lord, 17:15 touch no unclean thing and I will receive you. 17:17 And it also warns us in Romans 12 17:20 that we should not be conformed to this world, 17:22 but we can have the joy of being transformed 17:24 by the renewing of our minds. 17:25 Amen. 17:26 And so, that's not some legalistic standard, 17:28 that's a joy to step into that newness of life 17:31 and find the freedom from the need to, 17:33 and that's my own personal testimony, 17:36 the need to watch the game. 17:37 I know, I can't miss the latest soap opera 17:39 or whatever it is you might be into. 17:42 That's a freedom, right? 17:43 And so Media on the Brain was more focused 17:45 on finding freedom from the worldly media. 17:48 Okay. 17:49 As the years went on, 17:51 as I'm preaching that at churches, 17:52 2012, '13, '14, '15, '16, 17:55 the smartphones are becoming taking more of a hold 17:57 and social media being a bigger deal, 18:00 video game addiction deepening, 18:02 child development being affected even more, 18:04 and a lot more research and studies being done 18:07 on the effects of media 18:08 that hadn't been done yet in 2012. 18:10 So there was just a need to continue it, 18:12 you know, at first I thought, 18:13 hey, we'll do this media seminar 18:15 for a little while 18:16 and people are waking up 18:17 and they're gonna get it, right? 18:19 Well, not so, the culture just kept getting 18:20 more and more immersed 18:22 and mental health consequences started manifesting themselves. 18:26 So yeah, that kind of brought us up 18:28 to more recent years. 18:29 Okay. And that series was Media Mind? 18:32 Oh, yeah. In 2019, The Media Mind. 18:35 The Media Mind. 18:36 I didn't intend to do a second series on media. 18:38 It's like, you know, we covered it, 18:40 but it's there still with so much information 18:43 coming out in those years 18:44 about the harmful effects 18:46 and the big tech Titans 18:48 and the engineers in Silicon Valley themselves 18:51 coming out and saying, 18:52 you know, we don't do it that way 18:54 in our homes with our children 18:55 and several whistleblowers coming out of that industry, 18:59 just a whole lot more 19:00 that really needed to be delivered to people, 19:02 to give us that stronger, wakeup call 19:03 that we can raise the standard and find more joy in Christ. 19:06 You know, we have in our pastoral department, 19:09 I think they get calls. 19:11 I know weekly probably more often than that, 19:14 but people are calling, saying my child has changed. 19:18 My child is really into video games. 19:21 They have become rebellious. 19:22 They won't do this 19:24 or their schoolwork is suffering 19:27 and it's not, you know, we think of gamers, 19:30 people who are spending sometimes 24 hours 19:35 or longer on a video game. 19:38 But what is interesting 19:41 is we see that 19:43 even I will confess, 19:45 I gave my niece when she was, 19:48 I think it was her when she was nine years old, 19:51 I got, I was looking for a toy. 19:53 I wanted to be educational. 19:55 And I bought her an educational, 19:58 I won't say the name of it, 19:59 but it's a little kind of like an iPad. 20:02 And it was promoted as, this is so wonderful. 20:06 That Christmas Eve, that Christmas night, 20:10 she was in her bed early. 20:12 I mean, she wasn't in bed. 20:14 She was laying on her bed and she was on that. 20:16 And I went in and tried to interact with her. 20:19 She was a different child. 20:21 She wouldn't look up, she wouldn't give eye contact. 20:24 And I thought what have I done. 20:27 Now, we know from the statistics 20:31 we know from things that are being published 20:34 in scientific journals, 20:35 there is a true problem with addiction, 20:40 addiction to iPhones, addiction to the internet, 20:43 addiction to social media, 20:45 and it tearing at the fabric of society. 20:49 Absolutely. 20:50 But this is one of the reasons 20:52 we decided to do Digital Disconnect, 20:56 not as he said in a condemnatory way, 21:00 but in a way to show you, there's joy in life. 21:04 So let's talk a little about the series itself? 21:08 Yeah. 21:09 The first five programs kind of are grouped together, 21:13 and these programs are titled how to be human again. 21:17 The hearts of the children, media and the child brain, 21:21 anti-social media. 21:24 And this is your brain on media. 21:27 Give us for those who are watching, 21:29 why would they wanna watch Digital Disconnect? 21:32 What are they going to learn 21:34 about how media affects children? 21:37 They're gonna learn a ton. 21:38 In fact, if there's a fault in my presentation, 21:40 style is too much, 21:42 but I just really want people 21:44 to have the full quantity of information 21:45 that we can get through 21:47 'cause it's not just somebody's opinion, right? 21:48 It's not old some speculative thing. 21:50 It is, as you mentioned, scientific journals 21:52 quotes from the industry. 21:53 When you get into this as your Brain on Media, 21:55 that was the last one you mentioned 21:57 that program number five 21:58 and the addictive aspects of these, 22:00 the diagnostic and statistical manual 22:02 of the psychiatry community 22:03 labels media addictions. 22:05 And so that's something that's accepted in the industry. 22:07 It's not rhetoric 22:08 or somebody using flowery language. 22:10 It's a real serious problem. 22:11 There are so many scholars, researchers, 22:14 child development experts, industry insiders, 22:16 who are saying the same thing. 22:18 So when we hear them say it, 22:19 then it's not just somebody and their idea, you know. 22:23 I've got kids, so I think everybody wants 22:26 what's best for the children. 22:28 And that's kinda what really tugs at our hearts first 22:30 and foremost of all. 22:32 I mean, we could all make changes in our media. 22:33 We could all do experiments and try something different 22:36 and see if the way that our mind works 22:38 changes the whole work. 22:39 The whole crew... 22:41 I have to tell you, the whole crew, me included, 22:42 everybody is sitting there and listening to you 22:44 as you're recording these programs, 22:46 and then people are going well, I'm under conviction, 22:48 I'm under conviction. 22:50 Yep, I'm under conviction too. 22:52 So when you talk about it is really an addiction. 22:57 What kind of effect does this have 23:01 this constant internet, 23:02 it's the constant being on the phone 23:05 and even social media has really become a big one. 23:09 What effect does this have on the brain? 23:12 And particularly in the social aspect, 23:15 how does that affect children? 23:17 Well, if you talk about the brain regions, 23:18 we're looking at a lower prefrontal cortex function 23:22 because of the over stimulating effect of these media 23:24 on the developing brains of children 23:26 and an overactive limbic system, 23:28 which is going to lead to more problems 23:30 along with self-regulation 23:32 of behavior of mood, outburst, 23:35 the lizard brain, exactly more animalistic outbursts 23:38 and emotional, and even lustful the appetites. 23:41 And we all have that. 23:42 So when we talk about the child's brain 23:44 and the effects on the developing brain, 23:46 it's especially pronounced for them. 23:49 And they're at critical windows of development 23:51 where you don't want to disrupt and interrupt 23:53 what's supposed to be developing properly 23:55 in the right balance, 23:56 but in a way, all of our brains are developing, right? 23:58 Because they're always changing. 24:00 Every thought we think, every word we say, 24:02 every program we watched 24:03 like this, or a worldly one, 24:05 or what we read if we read this book or that book, 24:08 the way we think, the choices we make, 24:10 all our reacting back upon our own brain 24:13 and forming our characters. 24:15 So when you ask 24:16 how it affects the child's brain, 24:18 it's going to do that to all of us, 24:19 maybe to a lesser extent than the children, 24:21 but then it will manifest in behaviors and emotions 24:25 and mental health conditions 24:27 that you might not have known were the cause, 24:28 were caused by the media 24:30 or impacted in part by the media. 24:32 Depression is one of the first things 24:34 people notice. 24:35 An addict to anything, 24:37 if you're addicted to anything, 24:38 it increases depression. 24:40 We talk about attention span, 24:42 remember the Time Magazine article, 24:44 you have a shorter attention span 24:45 than a goldfish. 24:46 We'll get into that in the series. 24:48 But that's a function of lower prefrontal cortex ability, 24:53 lower attention span. 24:54 We're seeing skyrocketing rates of stress and anxiety 24:59 and all of these different mental health conditions 25:02 that are diagnosed in psychiatry circles. 25:05 But also people have subclinical level. 25:07 You know, I just feel low. 25:09 I don't qualify for an addiction. 25:10 I'm not seeing a specialist. 25:12 You know, I don't have depression, 25:13 but maybe I'm feeling lower than I otherwise would 25:16 if I wasn't on social media three hours a day, right? 25:19 Or if the child wasn't playing that video game 25:21 for an hour a day? 25:23 So it takes its toll measurably, 25:25 and everybody sees it anecdotally, 25:27 you saw it in your niece in one night. 25:28 I mean, that's quite something. 25:30 Or you mentioned the social. 25:31 You said, especially socially. 25:33 That's a big one. 25:34 I mean, I've talked to daycare professionals 25:36 and I've looked at researchers 25:37 who interviewed preschool teachers 25:39 and the data is coming in 25:40 and probably the most significant effect on children 25:43 is a lowering in their emotional intelligence. 25:46 That's the sociability, 25:47 the eye contact, 25:49 the language of verbal, nonverbal communications 25:51 is being lost on a generation that stares at a screen 25:54 instead of seeing the face of mother 25:56 and the babysitter 25:57 being the screen 25:59 and the devices captivating their attention, 26:01 not just hyper stimulating the brain 26:03 and affecting it in all those ways, 26:04 but it's what they're not getting. 26:06 When they're on the screen, 26:08 they're not getting the interaction 26:09 with mom and dad, with grandma and grandpa 26:11 with kind of life we used to live socially. 26:13 That's why we call it anti-social media 26:15 in episode four, 26:17 because these types of devices really do reduce 26:20 the ability of children 26:21 to engage socially, emotionally. 26:23 The Bible says the love of many will wax cold 26:26 in the last days. 26:27 So I guess you could say 26:29 that's a fulfillment of prophecy 26:30 'cause the ability to empathize 26:32 and feel other people's feelings 26:33 is a form of love. 26:34 And, you know, Scott, 26:36 my husband and I were in Dallas 26:37 a few years back at Christmas time 26:39 in the mall 26:41 and the three young girls, 26:42 probably all around the age of 16 26:45 walked past us. 26:46 And two of them are laughing and having the best time 26:49 and the other little girl's on social media. 26:53 And so I said, bless her heart. 26:56 She's artificially connected. 26:58 She thinks she's connected. 27:00 She's missing out on all this fun 27:02 'cause she's like this. 27:03 Well about almost an hour later, 27:06 same little group of girls passes by, 27:09 the other two girls 27:11 are just practically slapping their thigh. 27:14 They're laughing so hard. 27:15 And the one girl is like this. 27:17 Yeah. 27:19 I do believe, 27:21 I've talked with a lot of people 27:23 who have gone on a media fast 27:26 and it has made a big difference 27:28 in a growing up slide. 27:30 Absolutely. 27:31 But you're quoting from industry experts 27:36 who are prescribing for children 27:39 with ADHD, anxiety, depression, 27:42 they prescribe a media fast. 27:45 And what happens? 27:46 Dr. Victoria Dunckley, professional psychiatrist. 27:49 She gets hundreds of children and adolescents 27:51 comes to her practice 27:52 and she's treated hundreds of them 27:54 with a media fast 27:55 to see how their mental health conditions might resolve. 27:58 Three weeks of a completely screen-free life 28:02 for these children. 28:03 It is strict, three weeks, no media, 28:05 not even good media used for good purposes. 28:07 We're just getting off of it entirely for three weeks. 28:09 And then after that, 28:11 we can see what kind of things we can add back in. 28:12 It's the program that she puts them on. 28:15 Eighty percent of her children and youth 28:18 who are diagnosed with mental health disorders. 28:20 So these are the hardest cases. 28:22 Eighty percent of them 28:23 have the majority of their symptoms disappear. 28:25 And half of them have all their symptoms disappear. 28:28 It is truly amazing. 28:29 And so, it's no surprise that the tech executives 28:33 and the engineers in Silicon Valley 28:35 who know how these devices are affecting children, 28:38 particularly the interactive screen time, 28:40 the iPad games, the video games, 28:42 the playing on the phone, 28:43 they said to a person almost 28:46 it's a consensus in Silicon Valley, 28:48 according to one New York Times report 28:49 where they looked into this. 28:51 These people, who are making the apps, 28:53 making the devices, 28:55 making these addictive platforms 28:57 don't have their children on them. 28:59 Some of them famous names who came out in interviews 29:01 and said the same thing, but it's not just the biggest, 29:04 most famous people. 29:05 It's the people my age who have kids who are the, 29:07 you know, tech gurus, 29:09 the wizards of digital pharmakia, 29:11 who are crafting these concoctions for us, 29:13 that their children aren't touching the devices, 29:15 their daycare providers, 29:17 their nannies rather are signing contracts, 29:19 You know, I will not, 29:21 you will not have my kid on a device, 29:22 give them the Play-Doh, get in the sandbox and that. 29:25 Nor will you be on a device in front of my child. 29:28 Exactly 'cause it's second hand screen time, 29:29 you understand. 29:31 A secondhand smoke, isn't it? Yeah. 29:32 That's amazing. 29:34 But you know what? 29:35 I remember reading that 29:36 and what surprised me in Silicon Valley was that 29:40 in their high schools, 29:43 they were so limited to their computer access, 29:48 their internet access. 29:50 And now they've done studies to show that 29:55 actually there's a difference 29:57 between electronic reading 29:59 and reading where you turn a page 30:03 and it affects your cognitive ability even. 30:05 Tell us about that? It sure does. 30:07 We get into that in number 10, 30:08 episode 10 of Digital Disconnect, 30:10 people of the book in the age of the app, 30:13 that's also pulling from the Media Mind Series, 30:15 but we get into the question of you just raised it, 30:19 same text on a screen versus a book. 30:22 The reading comprehension is superior in the book. 30:25 They get deeper, more analytical, 30:27 critical thinking, engaged in the brain 30:29 when you're turning pages 30:30 and you're in that analog version, 30:32 you know, the old school, 30:34 the way we have trained our brains 30:35 to read on digital platforms 30:38 is we are actually better fact chasers on there. 30:40 So there's an advantage. We don't toss it all out. 30:43 You'll see, some of my information 30:44 in the series is quoting 30:45 from books I've read 30:47 and some of it is quoting from online articles 30:48 that I've searched out, 30:50 and great I like the internet, but kids in school, 30:53 the Silicon Valley people are sending them to the schools 30:56 that prohibit educational technology 30:58 until older ages. 31:00 Yes. Okay. 31:02 So now let's talk a little bit about transform, 31:05 because I wanna say something, 31:07 I just wanna keep making this point. 31:10 There is nothing negative about Digital Disconnect. 31:14 Amen. 31:15 Scott, you are a dynamic and anointed speaker, 31:19 glory to God, 31:20 but what he's focusing on is the joy of the Lord, 31:25 bringing people back into the joy of the Lord. 31:28 And episode number six 31:31 is transformed by the renewing of our minds. 31:36 Talk to us about that? 31:37 Well, it kind of connects with episode one, 31:39 how to be human again. 31:41 You know, God created Adam and Eve in the garden. 31:43 He created us with a certain design template 31:46 for our brains and bodies and social interactions 31:48 and spiritual interactions 31:49 and how we will thrive, how we can know Him, 31:53 how we can walk with Jesus, 31:54 how we can be in the family and in the church 31:57 and have all of God's designed for living 31:59 that can be restored and renewed. 32:01 In fact, one of my favorite definitions of redemption 32:04 that Jesus brought out 32:05 in His perfect life that He lived 32:07 and His sacrificial death on the cross 32:09 and His present work in the heavenly sanctuary 32:11 redemption can be summed up 32:13 with all of the merits of Christ, 32:14 restoring the image of God in man. 32:17 Amen. 32:18 And so we can get back 32:20 to how to be human as God designed it 32:22 in this digital age, 32:23 where we have become so subsumed. 32:26 I mean the average person 32:27 touches tabs and swipes their device 32:28 2,316 times per day. 32:31 Let me stop because you know what? 32:33 I'd never heard the word subsumed. 32:35 I heard consumed, exhumed you name, assumed. 32:39 Subsumed means that 32:40 you are just basically drawn into absorbed 32:45 into something else. 32:46 You're immersed in it. 32:48 And that's what happens with people on that. 32:51 Take the video game addict, he's on there all night. 32:54 What is it about that virtual place 32:57 where he's being inducted, invited, 33:01 enticed into a counterfeit reality 33:04 for 40 hours a week. 33:05 Five million Americans are playing 33:07 40 hours of video games a week. 33:08 That's amazing. 33:10 But they, you know, I've heard brain scientists say 33:13 they were hired to make it addictive. 33:15 It was purposely addictive. Yeah. 33:17 Well, I quote industry insiders in the series 33:19 who video games designers themselves, 33:22 who will not play several of the video games, 33:23 'cause they know how addictive it is. 33:25 They know the industry is designed 33:27 just like the casinos where, 33:28 I mean, this is a massive scandal. 33:30 One famous video game designer said 33:31 the video game industry 33:33 is the cigarettes of this century. 33:34 Meaning it's the scandal waiting to break. 33:36 And we all look back and go what were we thinking? 33:39 But the good news is transformed, you asked, 33:41 I didn't really get to that. 33:43 We can be transformed, 33:44 everything we've done bad to our brains, 33:47 God can renew. 33:48 And so that's the hope and the promise and the, 33:51 and it's not just a long shot, 33:53 you know, it's not just a pipe dream, 33:54 it's a scientific reality. 33:56 And, of course, a spiritual biblical promise 33:59 that when we return to God's way for living, 34:01 when we try something else, 34:03 we will find the fruits of it 34:05 will be maybe what we never thought and imagined. 34:08 I mean, when you see these kids 34:10 that go on a media fast 34:11 and their parents just throw up their hands, 34:13 what are we gonna do with them? 34:14 And then they're transformed. 34:15 I mean, we've had people write to us 34:17 like our kids are in this dark place 34:19 and we encourage them to do the media fast. 34:22 And here's the program. 34:23 Here's how you can do your evenings. 34:24 And three weeks later, 34:26 one month later, two months later, 34:27 people are saying, you've got a whole new kid 34:29 and it's just getting the right balance in there 34:32 and the spiritual power. 34:33 You know, you think about what Paul wrote, Romans 12:2, 34:36 "Do not be transformed to the... 34:39 I mean, do not be conformed to this world, 34:41 but be transformed by the renewing of your mind." 34:46 Amen. 34:47 And I guarantee you, 34:48 there's nothing that better renews the mind 34:52 than the biblical truth of God. 34:54 Absolutely. 34:55 Let's talk about, we got into a couple of programs, 34:57 media manipulation, 35:00 and the high priests of a new religion. 35:03 Let's talk about that for a minute? 35:05 That's the heavy stuff. 35:06 It gets pretty intense at that point. 35:07 If you thought the first ones are heavy, 35:09 those turn out to be light. 35:10 But you know, even before I answer that, 35:12 one of the things, 35:13 when you talk about the media fast 35:14 and the renewing of the brain 35:16 is not just getting rid of things 35:18 and what you're not doing, 35:20 but making sure to fill our lives 35:23 and fill our children's lives 35:25 to the brim and overflowing with all the good stuff. 35:29 So I never would want to just leave the impression 35:30 that just removing something so we got... 35:32 And what some of the good stuff 35:34 that parents are sitting out there saying what? 35:35 Relationships, nature, service, books, music, 35:41 entrepreneurial endeavors, cooking, building things, 35:46 kids doing their chores, 35:47 getting outside, climbing trees. 35:48 Kids being kids. Yeah, being kids. 35:50 The average 11 year old today has never climbed a tree 35:52 or the majority of 11 year olds 35:54 have never climbed a tree in the UK. 35:55 That blew my mind. 35:57 Now, I'm sorry, I didn't answer. 35:58 I gotta get into this question 'cause it's a big one. 36:00 Media manipulation, 36:01 you know, we were talking before we started 36:03 and you said, 36:04 Scott, we are a part of a vast social experiment. 36:08 Yes. 36:09 And I said, you're absolutely right, Shelley. 36:10 That's exactly what it is unknowingly. 36:12 And it's an experiment 36:14 we got signed up for without knowing. 36:16 We're consuming a product, 36:17 not knowing 36:18 what it will give us an overdose, 36:20 not knowing that it was addictive. 36:22 There's a lot of adults 36:23 who are addicted to their phones. 36:25 So media manipulation is really putting it mildly 36:28 and we're not talking about good uses of media. 36:31 When we discuss media manipulation 36:33 in the high priest of the new religion, 36:35 that's what they call themselves, 36:36 by the way. 36:37 That's makes for a nice, interesting title. 36:39 But that was Bertrand Russell, 36:40 who said that Hollywood 36:42 is the high priest of a new religion 36:43 because they will conform 36:45 into uniformity of thought 36:46 the value system of the young people, 36:48 and what they believe about fashion 36:50 and what they believe about love. 36:51 And this was a generation and a half ago 36:53 that they were already establishing this. 36:55 You can go back to the 1920s, 36:56 the founder of modern public relations, 36:59 the founder of modern advertising 37:00 and popular culture. 37:01 He was a nephew of Sigmund Freud. 37:03 So he knew about the mind and he said, 37:05 we can control the group mind 37:06 and they won't even know about it. 37:08 So he was very open and blunt in his book, Propaganda 37:12 about the agenda that they were up to 37:14 over a hundred years ago. 37:15 And we're still living in that world. 37:16 You get whistleblowers who come out of big tech, 37:19 who say we are in a position of controlling 37:22 what a billion people are doing right now. 37:24 And it's the most vast 37:26 and systematic control of human attention 37:29 in human history. 37:30 And so only if Edward Bernays could have had that, 37:33 you know, he had very primitive tools, 37:35 but we're talking about hypnotic elements 37:37 being used in the media, 37:39 through Hollywood, through the music industry. 37:41 And it goes deep in terms of deceptions, 37:44 in terms of the great controversy 37:45 that we find ourselves in. 37:47 Well, the thing that I've read about, 37:50 and you can correct me if I'm wrong, 37:51 but what I've read is when we are really thinking, 37:55 and I think you brought this out, 37:56 that when we're using our frontal lobe, 37:58 where the will, where the worship. 37:59 Yeah. 38:01 There's beta waves to the brain. 38:03 Exactly. But what happens is when we... 38:05 I love Scott talks about amusement. 38:08 Muse means to study and think on something. 38:11 A is the absence of studying and thinking. 38:14 So amusement. 38:16 When we go into this, 38:18 uh, we're watching these television movies, whatever, 38:23 what they are doing is 38:25 they're purposely doing things to put you not in the beta, 38:30 but to have the alpha waves. 38:33 And that's when you're open. 38:35 I mean, I remember studying, I interviewed someone who was, 38:40 had been in the new age 38:41 and they said, you know, 38:42 the whole idea of meditation is to get to an alpha wave. 38:47 The whole idea of marijuana, 38:49 it medically induces an alpha wave. 38:52 You're opening yourself up, 38:54 but the people here that are doing this, 38:56 they want to, because they wanna channel spirits. 38:59 When you open yourself, when you're in an alpha state, 39:03 you are open to suggestions from outside. 39:08 Yeah. That's absolutely true. 39:09 And some of them admit in quotes 39:10 that we go over in the series. 39:12 They say, we are trying to open people's souls 39:14 so that we can preach into their soul 39:15 what we want to say. 39:17 And it's like, wow, you couldn't make this up, 39:19 the kind of real nefarious scheme 39:21 that's been at play for again, for generations. 39:24 And now, as we approach 39:25 the final days of earth's history, 39:27 you can see that this system that's been built to deceive 39:31 can be utilized by Satan in his final deceptions. 39:34 So I believe it's pivotal critical, crucial 39:37 that we come apart and be separate now 39:39 from those systems of control 39:41 that we use media to God's glory. 39:44 You know, this, this platform isn't inducing 39:45 some sort of altered state of consciousness 39:47 because it's thoughtful, it's slower paced. 39:50 Whenever a parent, I talk to parents about, 39:51 well, what kinds of media at what ages, 39:54 you know, I always say, 39:55 you know, as they get older, if the program is nature paced, 39:59 it's not like cartoons and flashing images at them 40:02 and over stimulating their developing brain, 40:04 you know, you and I having a conversation, 40:05 it's like, we're in people's living room with them. 40:07 You know, it's a nature paced thing. 40:09 So it's not that screens are bad, 40:11 but we do need to be very serious 40:13 about trusting Hollywood, 40:15 trusting the advertising industry, 40:17 trusting the music industry. 40:18 And dare I say, even trusting big tech 40:20 as we utilize their platforms to get the message out, 40:23 that's more sticky and more difficult. 40:24 Some people are just blessed 40:25 by completely getting off of social media 40:28 because it's hampering their mental health 40:30 and they do a fast and after the fast they go, 40:32 wow, I feel way better. 40:33 I'm just gonna stay off. 40:35 But when it comes to Hollywood, 40:36 I think we know where we need to stand as Christians 40:39 on the Lord's side. 40:40 Well, you know, 40:43 people my age, when I say, 40:45 wow, the world has changed in 10 years, 40:48 little girls are no longer, 40:49 you see a little girl, that's 10, 40:51 she looks 16 the way they're dressing, 40:53 the way they're doing. 40:54 And you think what is going on? 40:57 Well, Hollywood has inundated that age group. 41:02 And we have one program 41:04 was called the spirit of the entertainment industry. 41:07 And these little girls often idolize stars 41:12 that are dressing a certain way, 41:14 doing a certain thing. 41:16 And parents or many parents 41:19 are just kind of losing control. 41:22 Kids don't have childhood anymore. 41:24 They don't play with little dolls. 41:26 They play with other things. Yeah. 41:28 So talk about the spirit of the entertainment industry. 41:32 You made some really fascinating, 41:36 we talked about 41:38 what the song writers are doing 41:41 and how many of them said, 41:45 I just channeled this song. 41:46 Yeah. Oh, yeah. 41:47 They say, people think we wrote our songs. 41:49 No, we were, we just happened 41:51 to have been awake when it arrived 41:53 and we are just a medium and another one says 41:56 I was an open temple filled with many spirits 41:58 that would pass through me. 42:00 And, I don't know who writes the songs. 42:03 Several of the actors talk about 42:05 how this is how I see acting. 42:06 You know, my body is a carrier for the spirits of the dead. 42:10 They believe that inhabit me. 42:12 And I mean, it's just quote after quote after quote. 42:14 You can say like one or two people 42:16 were into some weird things 42:17 and it wouldn't be worth necessarily doing an expose on, 42:20 but when you see like the biggest names 42:23 and a bunch of them, 42:25 and then one of them comes out 42:26 with kind of a whistleblowing mindset 42:28 and doesn't wanna get all her friends in trouble 42:30 but you remember the quote from Fairuza Balk, 42:32 the star of the witchcraft movie 42:34 where she goes, 42:35 yeah, a lot of entertainers 42:36 are very much into this witchcraft, 42:39 and they don't mention their names of course. 42:40 So some of them do brag about it to the media 42:42 and admit it, I guess, 42:44 but many of them are doing the very same things. 42:47 And so we get a sample and a window 42:49 into the entertainment industry 42:50 by those who have spoken about it. 42:52 But then Mrs. Balk tells us a lot more 42:55 than those people are into it. 42:57 Yeah. 42:58 Well, and it's just something, 42:59 we're just trying to give you a wakeup call 43:01 cause sometimes some parents are very good 43:05 about watching, controlling or regulating 43:09 I should say what their children watch. 43:12 Other parents they've got HBO 43:15 and the parents are in one room on the TV 43:18 and the kids are watching something on HBO 43:20 that is mind boggling to think. 43:23 I mean, it would be troublesome to me, 43:25 but for a child's brain, it's amazing. 43:28 Let's, I've got to, 43:30 we're running out of time so fast. 43:32 Programming 11 was amazing to me. 43:36 Program 11 is called the lust trap. 43:40 And we are going to, well, not we, 43:43 but Belt of Truth Ministry 43:45 Scott is going to offer a digital download 43:50 of materials to get people out of this. 43:54 But talk about the lust cascade? 43:57 Uh, the lust cascade. 43:59 Well, it's new term. 44:00 You won't find that one necessarily in the public, 44:02 the science publications, 44:03 but people talk about the stress cascade. 44:05 And as I was studying into the brain 44:06 and how lust works, 44:08 it's like its step-by-step 44:09 and it's like getting onto an on-ramp on a highway 44:12 where when you let the first, 44:13 you know, toe hold of the devil in 44:16 it leads to a cascade of events, 44:18 a domino effect of events in the brain 44:20 that leads to sexual immorality. 44:22 And so the first step in the lust cascade 44:24 is just the fact that the visual impetus, 44:27 the visual temptation is recognized, 44:31 but that step one, it isn't avoidable. 44:34 But step two is when it's dwelt upon 44:36 when it's pondered, when you behold that, 44:38 when you seek out more like it, 44:40 when you, when you ruminate that in the brain, 44:43 at that point, 44:44 you're heading down the lust cascade 44:45 and it changes 44:47 how the prefrontal cortex is working 44:48 and able to overrule the thoughts and impurities 44:51 that are entering in. 44:52 And pornography is a big deal even among Christians. 44:58 Yeah, 50% of Christian men admit that they are addicted. 45:02 And that's the ones that admit. 45:03 So this is a deep, 45:05 and that's why it's like we did a 30 minute program, 45:06 28 minute program in a series on media. 45:09 I'm like we gotta talk about lust 45:11 somewhere in there, 45:12 but didn't really do it justice, frankly. 45:14 And so I appreciate you saying, 45:15 "Hey, let's reach out to people 45:17 that are struggling deeply with that." 45:19 And so there's, 45:20 I got six hours on the topic of lust 45:22 'cause there's so much research, 45:23 particularly geared toward men 45:25 and the male brain and finding freedom, 45:27 the program for how to really break free 45:29 and find victory with a capital V. 45:31 And even though, 45:33 some of this research 45:34 has been done for men's brains, 45:35 let me tell you something, 45:37 I've talked with too many women who've called here 45:39 who have the same problem. 45:41 It's a problem that crosses gender. 45:44 And it is something that 45:46 the kinds of the information you present 45:49 will help both a male and a female. 45:52 Boredom and the Bible, 45:54 you have the best little video waiting, 45:58 he had some great video clips we couldn't use them all, 46:01 but of a family that went on a media fast. 46:04 And this little girl said she was probably 14, 15. 46:08 She said, wasn't boring at all. 46:10 And she even, we didn't get to there, 46:13 it was a portion of a long video, 46:15 but she said, 46:16 now I can go out and read my Bible for two hours. 46:19 And I just love it. 46:20 And I get so much out of it. 46:23 Why does a media fast eliminate boredom 46:26 with the Bible? 46:28 When you're addicted to something, 46:29 the pleasure receptors of the brain are numbed. 46:31 Dopamine receptors are shutting down 46:34 and the brain is just seeking for the quest of that addiction 46:36 or something like it to replace it. 46:38 At which point 46:40 you can't be satisfied and happy 46:41 and find joy in life 46:43 unless you are getting that thing. 46:44 And so when you remove that thing, 46:46 now life starts coming alive 46:47 and everything can become joyful, 46:49 including the Bible. 46:50 So people find it struggle to get into the Bible. 46:52 They think the problem is the Bible, 46:54 or they think I'm the problem. 46:56 No, no, it's just, there's a state in the brain 46:58 that is making it so that you're having a hard time, 47:00 really relishing the sweetness of the honey. 47:03 That is the word of God, 'cause you're sated. 47:05 The Bible says a sated man loathes honey. 47:07 So if you're sated with the worldliness 47:09 sated or satisfied or satiated with the over stimulating, 47:13 hypes entertaining culture. 47:15 You remove that 47:17 and the sober realities of life, 47:18 like God's Word, 47:20 like relationships walking in nature, 47:22 the beauty of a rainbow. 47:23 I mean, you name it, all the pleasures of life 47:25 really start to be perceived by the brain. 47:28 And they've shown in brain scans. 47:29 When somebody gets off their addiction, 47:31 they become happier. 47:32 So you just start to enjoy everything more, 47:33 especially the sweetest thing of all the Word of God. 47:36 So that young lady lived that, 47:38 her brain was changing over 30 days. 47:40 And she says now I can go out and sit outside 47:43 and read the Bible for hours and enjoy it. 47:45 And she says the media fast 47:47 life has not been boring at all. 47:49 'Cause you got to fill those spaces 47:51 with other things. 47:52 If you're just twiddling your thumbs and you're like, 47:53 I'm on a media fast staring at a blank wall, 47:55 watching paint dry, 47:57 you're gonna go find some media. 47:58 You're gonna slip up and not follow through. 47:59 So you've gotta have a plan before you start a fast. 48:02 Amen and amen. 48:03 We do want to take this opportunity be, 48:07 you know, you might want to have Scott 48:09 come to your camp meeting or your church 48:11 or come to a conference for you. 48:13 We're going to put his address up 48:15 in just a moment, 48:16 how you can get in touch with him. 48:18 But I wanted to take a moment to show. 48:19 I think it was Media on the Brain, 48:21 is that the one. 48:23 We had Media on the Brain and Media on the Mind, 48:25 these are, how many are in each series? 48:28 Media on the Brain was the one that we did starting in 2012, 48:31 that one's six DVDs. 48:33 And the Media Mind is five DVDs. 48:36 And the graphic there 48:37 is showing the overview of these two series. 48:40 So that's, this is 11 parts. 48:42 The download there, the digital download free offer 48:45 is for anybody 48:47 who just contacts our ministry and says, 48:48 we'd like that 'cause last time I was here, Shelley, 48:51 we offered a digit, a DVD to mail them. 48:54 And you got a few viewers. 48:56 As we said, while supplies last, 48:58 supplies didn't last very long. 48:59 So we started sending people out the digital download 49:02 instead of one free DVD that we sent last time we said, 49:05 well, since they don't get the physical DVD, 49:07 we're gonna do four. 49:08 So the digital download is a four part overview 49:12 of the 11 part DVDs 49:15 that I hold in my hand. 49:16 So I appreciate being able to share that. 49:18 And then tell us about the beltoftruthministries.tv? 49:24 beltoftruth.tv is, 49:26 if you wanna watch all of this stuff 49:28 and all of our stuff on parenting 49:30 and on overcoming lust 49:31 and dealing with issues of true education, 49:35 current events and prophecy. 49:37 Boy, I could just spend the next 10 minutes telling you 49:39 all the different topics we tackle. 49:41 'Cause you know, early on we did Media on the Brain 49:42 and we were like, 49:44 what should we call this ministry 49:45 that God is calling us into? 49:46 We have these invitations to go to churches, 49:48 somebody recorded for us and said, 49:49 we're gonna make it a DVD for you. 49:51 We said we could call 49:52 the Ministry Media on the Brain, 49:54 but there's so much more truth to talk about. 49:56 I don't wanna just talk about media. 49:58 So there's so many other seminar topics. 50:00 So Belt of Truth was as vague of a name 50:02 that we could come up with. 50:03 Just truth, anything true, 50:05 we will talk about it 50:06 as the Lord leads us and inspire. 50:07 So beltoftruth.tv 50:09 is where people can view all of our seminars 50:11 and all of our material. 50:13 He came off of one program 50:15 as we were producing this he finished 50:17 and I said, I think that's one of my favorite programs, 50:19 but he had broken into preaching. 50:21 I said I bet you're doing prophecy seminars now. 50:24 And he said, well, I'm very much into prophecy 50:27 and current events. 50:29 So I know that you are doing some of that as well. 50:32 So we are just so very excited to have this resource, 50:39 this program, Digital Disconnect. 50:43 I want you to watch for the hours 50:46 when it is gonna be viewed, 50:48 because this is something I would recommend. 50:51 I mean, everybody's going to benefit from, 50:53 did you know you quoted and correct me if I'm wrong, 50:58 but I think some of those quotes 51:00 from industry experts 51:02 were saying that media, the phone, the games 51:07 is more addictive than cocaine. 51:08 Oh, yeah. 51:09 That was Dr. Nicholas Kardaras, 51:11 he's author of the book, Glow Kids. 51:12 And he said, I have treated hundreds of heroin addicts 51:16 and screen addicts 51:17 and it's easier to treat a heroin addict 51:19 than a screen addict. 51:20 Dr. Dunckley talked about 51:22 how the hyper stimulating video games and stuff 51:24 are a stimulant like caffeine, cocaine, amphetamines 51:27 along the same lines. 51:29 There are many more quotes along those lines. 51:31 I know, you are gonna absolutely learn so much 51:35 from this series, 51:36 but if you want to get in touch with Scott, 51:40 we wanted to put up his address roll, 51:43 so that you would know 51:44 how you can get in touch with his ministry. 51:52 If you would like to contact 51:53 or know more about Belt of Truth Ministries, 51:56 you can write to them at 11333, Backus Road, 52:00 Lakeview, Missouri 48850. 52:04 You can also call them at (616) 238-5058. 52:11 That's (616) 238-5058. 52:16 You can visit their website at beltoftruthministries.org. 52:20 That's beltoftruthministries.org. 52:24 You can also email them 52:25 at beltoftruthministries @gmail.com. 52:29 That's beltoftruthministries @gmail.com. |
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