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Series Code: TDY
Program Code: TDY200055A
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00:01 As you're well aware,
00:03 we're living in unprecedented times. 00:05 Join us now for today's special program. 00:12 I want to spend my life 00:18 Mending broken people 00:23 I want to spend my life 00:29 Removing pain 00:34 Lord, let my words 00:39 Heal a heart that hurts 00:44 I want to spend my life 00:50 Mending broken people 00:55 I want to spend my life 01:00 Mending broken people 01:14 Hello and welcome to another 3ABN Today program. 01:17 We've been looking forward to spending this time with you. 01:21 Thank you for letting us come into your living room 01:22 or maybe you're driving in your car 01:24 and listening to us on the radio. 01:26 You're part of our family. 01:27 So what a great time we're gonna have here today. 01:30 We're gonna have a lot of fun, aren't we? 01:32 Oh, yes. Yes. 01:34 And why are we? 01:36 We have one of our favorite couples in the entire world 01:42 with an incredible ministry. 01:43 They have been on 3ABN since before I came, 01:47 so we wouldn't say that makes them old. 01:49 It just makes them longstanding friends 01:53 of the ministry here. 01:54 Sweetie. That's good. 01:55 Can we introduce them? 01:57 Let's do it. Yay. 01:58 We have Curtis and Paula Eakins. 01:59 I wanna to introduce myself. 02:01 Yeah. Oh, we? 02:03 Longstanding. 02:04 I like that term, longstanding, mature, yeah, longstanding. 02:08 Okay, I like those. 02:09 Kudos to you. 02:11 Good move. We love you both. 02:13 Oh, for sure. 02:14 You guys are part of the 3ABN family 02:16 I know for sure. 02:18 I know when we came up here. 02:19 I think couple years ago, 02:20 you will say Jill, welcome home. 02:22 Yes. 02:24 You'll be saying, welcome home. Yeah, so. 02:25 I mean, you're part of the 3ABN family 02:27 because you've been a part of this ministry 02:28 coming here for about 25 years. 02:30 Isn't it 24? 02:31 It will be 24 next March. Okay. 02:33 Yeah, That's incredible, next March. 02:35 Yeah. 02:36 In fact we actually meet people who say, 02:39 "I used to watch you when you were 02:40 when I was this really young." 02:42 Really? That's a rude awakening. 02:44 When I was small, I grew up watching you guys. 02:46 Grew up watching you guys. Yeah. 02:49 That would hit me hard. 02:51 Guys aren't getting any older though. 02:52 I mean, you guys still look fantastic. 02:54 Praise Him. Greg. 02:56 Yes, sir. I love you. 02:57 Yeah. We love you too. 02:59 Now, I have to say, you know, you're, 03:00 I consider you kind of another set of parents for me too, 03:02 because you kind of helped raise me. 03:04 When I first came to 3ABN, I was running camp. 03:07 When I first came 03:09 I was actually sweeping floors and stuff. 03:10 And then I moved to production to running camera 03:13 and that was at the Uplink, the original building. 03:15 And they came doing the program Abundant Living. 03:17 Yes. 03:18 And I remember, I was so excited and so pleased 03:21 because I got to run a camera at that point, it wasn't a jib. 03:23 It was up on a high stand. 03:25 And I got to take the food shots 03:27 of Paula and Curtis Eakins and, 03:29 man, I was like, I felt like I was growing up. 03:31 So I tell you, what a blast to work with you guys. 03:34 I know the crew always loves working with each one of you. 03:36 The dynamic that you see on camera 03:39 is the same that you see behind the camera, 03:43 you know, offset, may we say 03:44 and you guys just love each other 03:46 and that's obvious. 03:47 You love the Word... 03:49 It's a bit higher up notch offset with no cam. 03:51 Okay, yeah. 03:52 See, on camera, we kind of subdue 03:54 just a little bit though, 03:55 off camera's little bit more. 03:56 Yeah, because other people are watching. 03:58 So, yes, we try to be, you know, kosher. 04:01 Okay, well, you guys gonna say that. 04:05 We won't go into more detail. 04:07 You know, and this time, though, 04:09 you know, you all aren't doing cooking. 04:10 Usually, a lot of times you're here doing cooking, 04:12 but today is going to be really exciting, 04:13 because this is, 04:15 there's some phenomenal things happening with their ministry. 04:18 And we want to touch on those updates. 04:19 But before we get to that, 04:20 there's some other things we want to talk about too. 04:22 Absolutely. 04:23 I love their ministry. Oh, yeah. 04:25 I love their heart for ministry. 04:26 Amen. 04:28 And we want to go back 04:29 to the very beginning you could say. 04:31 Let's start with you, Curtis. Oh, my goodness. 04:32 So tell us what even made you 04:35 want to get involved in health ministries? 04:37 Why were you even interested in that? 04:39 Good question. 04:41 Think about that for a moment. Okay. 04:43 While you think about it, Paula, should we go to, 04:44 no, just kidding. 04:46 We go to you. I go to Mrs. Curtis. 04:48 This is gonna be a long program, 04:49 I can see this right now. 04:52 Back in the 1950s, all right? 04:55 My grandmother was the Baptist at the time, 04:57 she was studying. 04:58 She felt that 04:59 some of her questions wasn't answered. 05:03 So she saw a magazine called 05:05 "Message Magazine" 05:06 back in the 50s. 05:08 Adventist magazine, she saw it, she read it. 05:11 And she signed off for the Bible studies. 05:13 I think is Voice of Prophecy in California, I think it was. 05:16 Incredible. 05:17 And she send for those Bible studies, 05:19 she realize that 05:20 those Bible studies have all the answers 05:22 that she was asking in those Bible studies. 05:25 From that one Message Magazine 05:28 came four generations of Seventh-day Adventists 05:32 for one Message Magazine. 05:34 So therefore, and so when she joined the church, 05:37 Seventh-day Adventist Church. 05:39 One of the members gave her a book 05:41 because she had some health challenges, 05:42 so colds and fainting spells and that kind of thing. 05:45 So one of the members gave her a book called 05:48 "Back to Eden." 05:49 Oh, yeah. 05:50 I mean, it's a classic, Jethro Kloss back in 1940s, 05:53 I think maybe still in print. 05:54 And she read that book. 05:56 Every time she read the book, 05:57 her lifestyle began to change in a healthier format. 06:01 So growing up, 06:02 as a little boy, six and seven years of age, 06:05 I was spending summers 06:07 with my grandmother and grandfather at the time, 06:09 about six and seven years of age. 06:11 So I got there for the summertime. 06:13 She poured into me some of the health principles 06:16 she had been learning from that book Back to Eden. 06:19 Oh, wow. 06:20 So we had a peppermint plant outside the kitchen. 06:22 Tell me what that was for and long story short, 06:25 one day, I came downstairs. 06:28 My normal habit of eating breakfast, 06:29 come downstairs, 06:31 Kellogg's cornflakes, 06:32 maybe the only cereal back in the 60s. 06:35 And in milk, 06:36 I had a chest congestion and cold, common cold, 06:39 some nasal congestion that morning. 06:41 And when I came downstairs, got the Kellogg's cornflakes, 06:44 put in a bowl, 06:45 and then about to pour the milk into the bowl. 06:48 When I did that, right before I did that, 06:50 my grandmother came around the corner, 06:51 came into the kitchen. 06:53 She said Curtis, this is what she said. 06:55 Now this was over 50 years ago. 06:57 "You cannot have milk today." 06:58 Wow. 07:00 I said, "Why not mother dear?" 07:01 I called her mother dear. 07:02 This is what she said. 07:04 "Because milk has snuck in it." 07:08 Oh. 07:09 So you're like. 07:11 And I said to myself six years old like, 07:14 "If you knew that, 07:16 why am I drinking milk all this time?" 07:19 I mean, it just kind of stunned me. 07:21 As I grew older, and studied on my own, 07:24 I realized what she is trying to tell a six year old child, 07:28 milk is mucus forming. 07:30 Yes. 07:32 Oh, that's what she's trying to tell me years ago. 07:33 As I grew older, 07:35 I began to learn more about healthful living 07:37 studying on my own. 07:38 And then about 23, 24 years old, 07:42 I was reading a book called 07:43 "Counsels on Diet and Foods." 07:46 And there's one statement I read 07:48 that changed my life as far as my eating was concerned. 07:52 Page 389, this is what it says. 07:58 "A religious life can be more successfully gained 08:05 and maintained 08:07 if meat is discarded," 08:09 Wow, meat, 08:11 they continue to quote, 08:12 "For this diet and feeble, " 08:14 that means make sick. 08:15 Here's the thing, the clincher, 08:17 "the moral and spiritual nature." 08:21 When I realized that meat does that. 08:23 Now, if you told me at the age of 23, 08:26 it can increased risk of heart disease, 08:27 cancer, prostate, 08:29 whatever, you know, that would not faze me. 08:31 But when I realized that 08:32 this diet and feebles the moral and spiritual nature, 08:37 that got my attention. 08:38 So the spiritual aspect 08:40 caught your attention right away? 08:41 That got my attention. Yeah. 08:43 That Sunday night. 08:44 No more meat, no more hamburgers. 08:46 That Monday morning I became a lacto-ovo. 08:49 Well lacto-ovo chicco fishel, 08:52 you know, and then that's a power of God. 08:54 Let's interpret that, Paula, 'cause I don't get. 08:57 There be some more jokes coming by. 08:59 Yeah, so then after a while. 09:00 So why not just get rid of the fish 09:03 and chicken too. 09:04 So I became a vegetarian because of that one statement, 09:08 and then evolved into more of a plant-based diet 09:11 from there on for over 30 years. 09:13 But my grandmother planted the seed in me 09:16 as a young child. 09:18 And so she lived a long life. 09:19 She just passed away just a few years ago. 09:22 At the age of 110, with no medication. 09:26 Well, she came on the show. 09:27 I remember that. 09:29 She was 108 then, with no medication. 09:32 So that was my inspiration. 09:35 And I'm involved into health ministry 09:37 because my grandmother planted the seed in me 09:40 in a young early age. 09:42 Now that my wife, 09:43 you have a different kind of story to tell 09:45 as far as how you got into the health ministry as well. 09:48 Are they going to ask me that question 09:50 after you finish? 09:51 Yes, I have plenty of time. Yeah. 09:53 I can talk more but the clock is ticking, 09:55 so would you have something to share too, Honey? 09:58 Well, mine was, you know what? 10:00 I think we just sit back and just kind of let... 10:02 I think there is, yay. 10:04 Oh, no, no, don't get too relaxed. 10:06 We're coming back on this program. 10:07 Okay. 10:09 And so, Paula, actually what about you? 10:10 Yeah, mine's is different in that, 10:12 you know, I've been through a lot of stuff in my life. 10:16 And when I found Christ as my personal Savior, 10:18 and of course, we came into the Adventist movement. 10:23 Yeah. 10:24 The more I studied, 10:26 the more I started reading and seeing things 10:27 about the Sabbath, and how did I miss that? 10:30 And, you know, all those kind of things. 10:32 I also at that particular time was very interested in health. 10:36 Now, how old were you at that time? 10:38 Would this be teenage, 20s? 10:40 I was a young adult, 10:42 when I first started getting a message about Adventism. 10:44 All right? 10:45 And so, with that in mind, I went to a class, 10:48 a cooking class, 10:49 and this was on Counsel on Diets and Foods as well. 10:52 It was way beyond what I wanted to even hear. 10:55 All the stuff that was being said to me, 10:56 all that we had to go home 10:57 and do the homework from the chapters. 10:59 I did a lot of crying, a lot of prayers to say, 11:01 no way I'm gonna get off 11:02 all the stuff they're telling me 11:04 I'm not supposed to eat, that's not gonna work, 11:06 because I'm one of 10 children. 11:07 And so we ate everything 11:08 that wasn't nailed down to the floor. 11:10 When it came to spirituality and learning about health, 11:12 it was like, 11:14 "I don't know about that." 11:15 So I went to this class. 11:17 And when the instructor said, 11:18 "You know, 11:20 the husband is the priest of the home. 11:23 But the mother is the gatekeeper." 11:25 I said, 11:26 "Oh, boy, if I didn't get enough information 11:28 already from Counsels on Diets and Foods, 11:29 and now you're telling me that I'm the gatekeeper." 11:31 And she said, "And by gatekeeper, " 11:33 she kept going, 11:34 "That means that you have the ability 11:35 to either make or break your family's health, 11:38 by what you're feeding them." 11:40 I'm like okay. 11:41 That's a heavy duty responsibility. 11:43 That's a big one. Yeah. 11:44 So all the things that I thought was okay, 11:46 all the things that I have been eating in the past, 11:47 I had to go into some serious prayer to ask God, 11:50 you just need to help me because there's just no way. 11:52 And my daughter at that time, she said, 11:54 "Mom," 11:55 she said, "I don't know why it's a big deal. 11:56 Why don't you just take your books and stuff 11:58 and turn them into healthier recipes, 12:00 you know, just switch things out." 12:02 Out of mouth of babes. 12:03 And it took a lot, I went in the kitchen, 12:05 started working with recipes, I prayed a lot. 12:08 And one of the things that God said to me was I said, 12:11 "Father, how in the world 12:12 are we going to change these diet out?" 12:14 And you know what He said? 12:15 "I'm the creator of all things," 12:17 Paula, 12:18 "You know, just go in the kitchen. 12:20 And I will show you what to do." 12:21 And I just went in here and start working on recipes. 12:23 And I want to say that before that time, 12:26 my family had colds, they were kind of stressed out. 12:30 My son was having a lot of issues in school. 12:33 When I changed the diet out, I mean, everything. 12:35 I mean, I was doing everything from breads to the meats, 12:38 everything from scratch. 12:39 Wow. 12:41 I saw a healing, 12:42 and not just my son and his attitude in school, 12:45 but myself, my daughter as well. 12:47 And that's when I saw that there is a connection 12:50 between what you're eating, 12:52 and also what happens to you later. 12:54 So you saw the healing 12:56 physically as well as emotionally 12:58 or socially or spiritually? 13:00 I wanna say physically, spiritually, 13:02 mentally, and socially, 13:03 I wanna say, 13:05 even to the point of the Lord said, 13:06 you even you look at your children's sleeping habits, 13:10 you need to look at the toys they play with. 13:12 I mean, he went all the way, all the way. 13:14 And I thought about things like 13:15 who would ever think that anything wrong 13:16 with little army men inside of the box, 13:18 toy boxes. 13:20 But he still went all the way, 13:21 he went from health, physically, spiritually, 13:23 mentally, socially. 13:24 So I was actually in school. 13:26 And after I got all excited about it, 13:28 my friends started telling about 13:29 how good the food was tasting. 13:31 The next thing I knew I was telling my pastor, 13:32 can I do some cooking classes here at the church? 13:35 Now, I had no education 13:36 is other than what I have been learning 13:38 right from counsel and other thing. 13:40 And when I began to teach classes, 13:42 people would say things to me like sodium, carbohydrates, 13:45 I just knew how to fix the food. 13:47 And I said, 13:49 "What does that do for you 13:50 from a carbohydrate standpoint?" 13:51 Or they'll say, 13:53 "So what exactly is sodium?" 13:54 And the Lord said, "You need to go to school." 13:56 Wow. 13:57 I said school, and so really, as a little more mature adult, 14:01 I then decided to go back to school. 14:07 When she answered the question, she's cutting more. 14:09 I think she overlooked that. Okay. 14:11 The Lord just really blessed 14:13 because I went through the whole school gambit. 14:15 I was the first person in a row in a classroom 14:17 in the area of nutrition. 14:19 And to the point where I just, I was amazed at the anatomy, 14:22 physiology of the body and what was going on. 14:25 And the schools I went to was not plant-based, right? 14:27 Yeah. 14:29 So when I had my classes on the lab portion, 14:32 I would actually you had to go to the lab quick, 14:34 look on the board to see what's being fixed. 14:36 And me and the girls, I was actually with my team. 14:39 We would go down early, 14:41 get in the class before it got started 14:42 and grab all the foods that were plant-based, 14:44 because you had to fix those foods in your cubicle. 14:46 Oh, my. 14:47 That's how they really kind of learned 14:49 about the fact of plant-based. 14:51 And my teacher at that time, she said, 14:52 "Paula, I don't know what you're doing, 14:53 but I'm gonna tell you right now." 14:55 That was way back then, plant-based is not going to go, 14:57 you will not get a job 14:59 teaching anything in the area of vegetarianism, 15:01 so you could forget that. 15:03 Years later I saw her again, 15:05 with a master's degree 15:07 and teaching plant-based literally. 15:10 Before we talk about how you all teamed up together, 15:12 I want to just maybe you can talk to someone at home 15:14 because you mentioned something to me. 15:17 When you were talking about the transition, 15:19 we started finding out about this new information 15:21 about plant-based, 15:22 there are a lot of tears, a struggle. 15:23 There's someone at home right now 15:25 that may be eating everything that's not nailed down either. 15:27 And trying to figure out what's the first step, 15:29 because we know there's something better 15:30 what do we do? 15:32 Yeah. Go ahead. Yeah. 15:33 For me, I went back and looked at my cookbooks 15:36 that I already had at home. 15:38 And I began praying and asking God, 15:39 how can we switch things out? 15:41 Okay. 15:42 So sometimes people think you have to change everything 15:43 and throw the baby out with the bathwater, 15:45 that's not true. 15:46 You can actually look at recipes 15:48 we call your super foods that you really like. 15:50 And you can actually see 15:51 how can I switch things out for instance. 15:53 Biscuits and gravy I was thinking. 15:54 Biscuits and gravy, you know, 15:56 now we're going to make a whole wheat biscuit 15:57 instead of a white biscuit. 15:59 Okay, we're going to make a gravy 16:00 and this gravy can use a soy milk 16:02 or almond milk or rice milk. 16:04 So the thing is that people think it's so difficult, 16:06 but it's not really difficult. 16:07 Remember now, in the first book of the Bible, 16:09 in Genesis, 16:11 God speaks about the diet, okay? 16:13 So because He speaks about it, and then in Genesis 3:18, 16:15 He goes a step further with a diet. 16:17 So really, I think the Master really knows 16:19 what we're supposed to do. 16:20 Yeah. 16:21 But the biggest thing for us is that 16:23 it's hard for us to make changes. 16:24 Yes. 16:26 And we really have because we love that fried chicken 16:28 and collard greens and biscuits and gravy, okay? 16:31 But we can learn how to really change them. 16:34 We don't have to let it go. 16:36 We have to learn how to make it better. 16:37 Boy, I like that, how do we make it better. 16:40 I love that. Curtis? 16:41 We're not taking anything away 16:43 unless we give them something better in its place. 16:45 That's it. I like that. 16:47 Otherwise, they won't buy into it really. 16:50 It had to be better, better tasting, healthier, 16:54 and cost less. 16:56 That's it. 16:57 She has a gift of cooking. 16:59 It is actually a gift. 17:01 Ellen White said, 17:03 "It is the best gift available is worth 17:08 "ten talents." 17:10 Wow. 17:12 "Ten talents." 17:13 That's amazing. 17:14 So I mean, really just something we do 17:16 every single day that transition. 17:20 And must look appealing. 17:22 So do not put a green split pea burger 17:25 in front of me 17:27 because burger is not green, it's supposed to be brown. 17:29 No, really 'cause we eat also with our eyes, 17:33 and the mouth texture, appeal, the smell. 17:37 All of that has to be in play. 17:38 And God really blessed her with that. 17:40 Oh, absolutely. 17:41 I know my brain would shook, 17:43 'cause that's why I'm sticking with her. 17:44 I mean, look, if she ever leaves, 17:47 I'm going with her. 17:48 Yeah, you guys are a team. Yeah, I'm going with you. 17:50 You guys are amazing. 17:51 Absolutely. 17:53 I just think about the training 17:57 from when you were young, 17:59 you know, your grandmother talking to you and family. 18:03 This is a question for you, Curtis, 18:05 and then get to how y'all got together? 18:07 Talk to someone at home who maybe is a grandparent, 18:11 maybe their grandkids aren't eating well, 18:13 maybe their grandkids 18:15 don't even really walk with God. 18:16 What can they do 18:18 to be an influence in those baby's lives? 18:21 Okay, well, this is my cam, no this might be, okay. 18:26 No, I'm serious, I want to talk to the people 18:28 because a lot of times 18:29 a lot of grandparents are now raising their kids, 18:33 the grandkids, right? 18:34 And so therefore, get them into the kitchen. 18:38 Help them make meals for the family, 18:41 get them really involved. 18:43 We're talking about hands-on really, 18:47 so they know exactly what to do. 18:49 Love it. 18:50 Teach them in a very tender way 18:53 why this is prepared this way as opposed to that way. 18:57 My grandmother taught me. 18:59 She taught me as a young child six and seven years of age, 19:02 why we ate the way we ate 19:05 while spending the summers 19:06 with my grandfather and grandmother 19:08 there in a country in Ohio. 19:10 So I understood not just why I'm eating this, 19:13 but the impact it has on my system as well, 19:18 education that a child can understand, all right. 19:21 So, but get them involved. 19:23 I think my wife, 19:24 she talks about cooking class 19:25 where sometimes more people are, 19:28 it sticks better when you see it, 19:32 even better still when you see it and do it. 19:34 Oh, yeah. 19:36 Hands-on, so get them involved in the transition. 19:38 We say, "Take the children shopping." 19:39 You know, I used to ask my students, 19:41 "Okay, it's time for us to go to the store. 19:43 What are we going to buy?" 19:45 And then I'd say, 19:46 "Okay, we have to have a vegetable. 19:47 All right. Then we have to have a start." 19:49 So they learn those things. So they're now a part of it. 19:51 So they're picking the foods out. 19:52 They're going to bring them home. 19:54 And then, well, I want potato chips. 19:55 Okay, well, how about a potato? 19:57 What are we gonna do with that? 19:58 Well, let's get a baked potato and let's cut it up, 20:00 put it in the oven. 20:02 Let's make potato chips out of it. 20:03 Why? 20:05 So it's not as hard as people make it. 20:08 But you do have to be committed. 20:09 And also when for the grandmother part 20:11 is a spiritual part. 20:12 They're not just learning about foods. 20:14 They're also learning. She was very spiritual. 20:16 She prayed a lot. She talked a lot to Curtis. 20:19 And so that's very important 20:21 because they have to know the other part of it. 20:23 The other part of being healthy is who makes us healthy. 20:26 And why are we healthy? 20:27 And let's pray about that. 20:29 And this is what the children learn. 20:31 They learn from their grandparent, 20:33 and my children, 20:34 of course, learn from me 20:35 because my grandparent wasn't in that and so that's, 20:38 it's all together. 20:39 Yeah, the spiritual aspect, too. 20:41 That's really good 20:42 because they realized the Creator God 20:43 is when He created each one of us 20:45 and He's interested in our health and well-being. 20:46 So tell us how you guys then got together first, 20:48 ministering together 20:50 because I believe Abundant Living 20:51 is one of the longest running programs on 3ABN. 20:53 Do you really think so? Is it really? 20:55 We have the flagship programs like Today program. 20:58 Now we have like you're viewing right now 21:00 and like the Thursday Night Live 21:01 and some other programs, 21:02 but Abundant Living is one of the longest. 21:04 So were you in ministry before you came here 21:05 and started doing Abundant Living? 21:07 Oh, yes, yes. 21:08 So tell us how it all happened? 21:10 Of course, now from a math standpoint, 21:11 I have the short version. Okay. 21:13 My wife has an exhausted version. 21:15 So I'll introduce short version first. 21:16 Okay. 21:18 So it'd be kind of quick 21:19 and they're still adding some pieces 21:21 that I'm leaving out, maybe on purpose. 21:23 So when we were growing up, of course, I began my study, 21:28 my own personal study as well. 21:30 And then I took a course and became a naturopath, 21:33 doctor of naturopathy. 21:35 Lot of people ask, you know the initials after our name. 21:37 Mines is N.D, hers is M.S. 21:40 Someone came up to say in excess, 21:42 well, what does that stand for? 21:44 N.D is North Dakota, hers is Mississippi. 21:47 They would say, 21:49 oh, now let them student just for a little while, 21:52 then I clarify that later on. 21:53 That's why I get my kicks. All right? 21:55 So now that you know, but yeah, I got the course, 21:57 doctor of naturopathy, 21:59 it specializes in lifestyle medicine. 22:01 All right? 22:03 But my main thing coming up and studying research, 22:07 it's like at the point 22:09 where everything can be cured by taking herbs. 22:13 I mean, everything just taking herbs, herbs only. 22:16 And I knew that I was unbalanced. 22:19 And I need somebody 22:20 who knew something about nutrition. 22:23 So I asked my mom, I said, 22:24 "Mom, who in this church, Huntsville Church, 22:28 know something about nutrition?" 22:29 She said, "Oh, there is a lady 22:30 who just graduated from Alabama A&M. 22:32 She has her master's degree in nutrition. 22:34 Her name is Paula, missed her last name." 22:37 I said, "Oh, maybe you can check her out 22:38 and call her see if you know she can, 22:41 you know team up with you to do some classes." 22:43 Wow. 22:44 So I call her I said honey. 22:46 Well I didn't say honey at first, 22:47 but the honey was coming but not the first call. 22:51 That was a priceless expression, right? 22:54 Yeah, I didn't say honey at first, 22:55 but a few calls later became honey, 22:57 you know, whenever that kind of slipped out. 22:59 But I said, 23:01 "I want to start a medical missionary workshop 23:04 on the campus of Oakwood College." 23:06 Oh, wow. All right? 23:08 The new girls don't wait all at the time. 23:11 And so this early 90s, I guess. 23:13 And I'll do the herbal part. 23:16 Why don't you do the nutrition part? 23:19 Now this is gonna be once a month, 23:21 two hours from 12 to 2. 23:24 And your response was what, Honey? 23:27 I don't come cheap. 23:30 And I said that because... That was a laughing moment. 23:32 But that is what she just said. 23:34 I said that because, remember, now my background is nutrition. 23:38 And I have not dealt in herbal medicine. 23:41 So when I thought about herbal medicine, 23:43 and plus the fact that 23:44 Curtis played around a lot, okay? 23:46 Not that much. 23:47 So when he said to me, 23:49 "I want you to team up with me." 23:51 I'm like, 23:52 "I'm not really sure where this is going to go." 23:54 So I figured if I said I don't come cheap, 23:55 he back away, 23:57 because I didn't know how nutrition 23:58 and herbal medicine would match. 23:59 You mean you teased. All right. 24:01 Yeah, you know. 24:02 Yeah, really? 24:03 And so he said, 24:05 I'll do the talking and you do the nutrition part. 24:07 And then whatever I get together, 24:09 because we were then asking for donations. 24:11 Whatever I get, I'll share with you. 24:12 Well, I figured I wasn't getting out of this. 24:14 I have her half, I get half. I wasn't gonna get out. 24:16 I figured I might as well just go ahead and do it with him 24:18 and just let it go. 24:19 And at the program itself, we did the presentation. 24:22 At the end he came over to me 24:25 and my girlfriends were with me 24:26 in as audience, okay? 24:28 He walks over to me, he has his hand out like this. 24:31 And he has his $6 and some cent in his hand. 24:35 And she says... 24:36 He said, "This is your portion." 24:38 No, that was the total. 24:39 You can have. 24:40 But her portion is $3.20. 24:42 That's her half. Okay. 24:44 I held to my word. 24:46 I don't know why they're laughing. 24:48 Trying to contain myself but I can't help it. 24:51 We've got another 26 more minutes. 24:52 He said that. 24:55 I knew I was stuck. 24:56 And I just, I took the $3 and some cents 24:58 and I felt so bad. 24:59 Oh, yes, you took it. 25:01 That I acted that way because I kind of figured 25:02 God might be trying to move me into retirement. 25:06 So I did take the money, 25:07 and I went to subway and I bought a sub, 25:09 a foot long sub plant-based. 25:11 Yes. 25:12 I went back to his office and I split it with him. 25:16 And that was our first date. 25:18 No, that was not our first date. 25:19 No, it was. 25:21 No, we ate the sandwich together. 25:22 I'm going to ask Jill this question. 25:24 Won't you ask Greg? No, I'm gonna ask Jill. 25:26 Now, Jill, with $3.30 be a date? 25:29 No. 25:31 See if I could high five you, 25:33 I would high five you right now. 25:35 Well, I didn't say it was expensive date. 25:37 I mean, it went up to like a large order fries. 25:39 I mean, I got more expensive but. 25:41 I'm just gonna say this, the first day, 25:43 I know this isn't about us. 25:44 But the first day that Greg and I went on, 25:46 we sat on the floor because there was no seat, 25:49 so we eat and sat on the floor. 25:50 At the restaurant we sat on the floor. 25:52 Really? 25:53 A great memory to our first date. 25:55 So that was our first date. 25:56 And Greg paid for the food? He paid. 25:58 I did. Was it more than $3.30? 26:00 It was. See there? 26:02 Yeah. But, so this is actually... 26:03 Can we cut this portion out, you know, this portion out? 26:08 So this is the beginning then. 26:10 So you guys actually started together 26:11 really doing health ministry together. 26:13 At Oakwood College. Wow. 26:15 Their wait hall back in the early 90s together. 26:18 We did that for at least six or seven months. 26:20 Yeah. Every month. 26:21 Every month? 26:23 And you split the offering every month? 26:24 I split it. And she came in. 26:26 But the dates became more expensive 26:28 as we began to start. 26:30 But it was basically 26:32 a platonic relationship at first. 26:35 And then she walked by and something just hit me. 26:40 And it's like the Bible says, 26:42 "Lord, give her for me, she pleases me well." 26:47 And it shift to more of as my grandfather used to say, 26:51 "I started courtin'." 26:52 That means courting. 26:54 Yeah, courting, yeah. 26:55 But involved in that, but really, 26:58 and I think we've been together 27:00 for at least now almost 30 years. 27:03 So I know what she's gonna say, I know I'm gonna say, 27:06 she could finish my sentence, I can finish her 27:08 because we've been doing this for so long 27:10 as a ministry together. 27:12 And so after that, you end up teaching at Oakwood. 27:15 I was teaching at Oakwood students 27:17 and was on that for a while. 27:19 Nutrition? Nutrition. 27:20 And then the Lord said we were, 27:23 I was actually teaching in a classroom. 27:25 And then I would jump out those clothes 27:26 and put on heels and a suit 27:28 and then go teach in a community. 27:29 And it just got to be too much 27:30 trying to teach on a day and then at nighttime, 27:32 the teaching classes and cooking and all that. 27:35 And one day, I just talked to the Lord, 27:36 I said, "This is not working well. 27:39 I mean, I'm really stressed out." 27:40 And I gotta remember 27:41 where I just taught the students. 27:43 And now I'm actually out in the community teaching. 27:44 And the Lord just said to me, 27:46 "Who has the greater need, Paula?" 27:48 I said, 27:50 "Well, I like the students. I like teaching them." 27:52 He said, "But who has the greater need?" 27:54 And I said, "The community" Father," 27:55 He said, "Yeah, " 27:56 I said, "Because they got the major diseases, 27:58 and they really need help." 28:00 And He said, "Then go and do what you need to do." 28:02 And that's when I walked away from Oakwood as a professor. 28:05 And then at that time 28:06 also Curtis and I were doing classes, 28:08 people calling us from the community, 28:10 we're going to schools and communities 28:12 and doing classes. 28:14 And it just became a thing 28:15 where we liked the idea 28:17 that we could always present foods, 28:20 which is always open door. 28:21 People smell food, 28:23 they'll come to anything when it comes to food. 28:24 Absolutely. 28:26 And then we always were able to actually 28:27 throw the spiritual part in. 28:28 And even when the community said 28:30 some of the organization said 28:31 you cannot pray and talk about God. 28:33 And I would say, "Okay." 28:35 So then when we would cook the food and everything, 28:37 I would just be cooking it. 28:38 And I would say, but isn't God good? 28:40 And then I would just go back to cooking. 28:42 You're putting a spiritual aspect in. 28:44 Yeah. Yeah. 28:45 Praise the Lord. 28:47 Let me let me put it this way. 28:48 We just put it blunt. 28:50 For those health leaders out there 28:52 who are listening. 28:53 We just focus on improving a person's health and lifestyle 28:59 without looking for any avenues of their spiritual enhancement, 29:03 then all we're doing 29:05 is simply preparing healthy people for hell. 29:10 Oh. 29:11 Now that's deep. 29:13 We shouldn't stop there, 29:15 because although we're just simply doing health, 29:18 education, demonstrations, cooking classes, 29:22 but looking for no opportunities 29:23 for the spiritual component, 29:25 then what good is it? 29:27 So it's the evangelism with the health? 29:28 Right. 29:30 Otherwise it's just health information, 29:32 it's not evangelistic. 29:36 Here's the main thing. 29:38 In our church, Seventh-day Adventist Church, 29:41 the body is represented by the gospel of Jesus Christ. 29:45 That's the body, right? 29:47 The health ministry is the right arm. 29:50 Sure is. I believe that. 29:52 There's no other ministry 29:54 that has been given the name of a body part, 29:57 but health ministry. 30:00 Oh, wow. 30:02 Health ministry is the only 30:03 anyone that has a name of a body part,. 30:04 Yeah, the right arm. 30:06 So a lot of times we try to encourage churches 30:07 as South Central Conference Health Directors, 30:10 we want to help that arm firmly attach to the body. 30:16 No rotator cuff, no dislocated shoulder, 30:21 it should be firmly attached to the gospel of Jesus Christ, 30:25 the right arm. 30:26 So if you take Michael Jordan's right arm away from him, 30:31 he can still be effective, 30:33 but he cannot score as many points, 30:36 dribble as effectively or grab as many rebounds. 30:39 So his game would be very reduced level. 30:44 So if church doesn't have a very vibrant health ministry, 30:48 they can still be effective, 30:50 but never reach their potential. 30:53 So that's why the evangelism comes in, 30:56 not just the health of the people. 30:57 We do classes on diabetes, heart, blood pressure, 31:01 cholesterol, etc. 31:02 but without the component of ministry of evangelistic 31:06 Christ part of that, 31:07 then is fall short. 31:11 So your marriage started in ministry really? 31:13 Our marriage started in the ministry. 31:15 And then it grew 31:16 to this incredible ministry of health seminars 31:19 and working for the South Central Conference, 31:22 you're co-directors of health ministry 31:25 there you've been 12 years now? 31:26 Twelve years. Yeah, 12 years. 31:28 This is, South Central Conference, 31:30 they're about 50 conferences in the North American Division. 31:32 All right? 31:34 South Central is just one of those. 31:35 Yes. 31:36 And let me just say this up front here. 31:43 Alabama, South Central, 31:45 but particularly 31:46 Alabama lies in the heart of the cancer belt 31:51 and so therefore, 31:53 there's more deaths of cancer 31:55 than any other area of the country, in that area, 31:59 that region, Alabama, Mississippi, 32:01 Tennessee, etc. Right? 32:02 That's number one. 32:04 Number two. Diet related you think? 32:05 Diet related. 32:06 Number two, 32:08 Alabama is in the heart of the obesity belt. 32:11 Okay. All right? 32:12 And so we have one of the highest rates of obesity 32:15 in the nation. 32:17 Number three, 32:18 Alabama lies in the heart of the diabetes belt. 32:22 It has the second highest rate of diabetes in the nation 14.6. 32:28 And fourthly, 32:29 Alabama lies in the heart of the stroke belt. 32:34 Alabama has the second highest rate of stroke from death 32:38 to any other place in the nation. 32:39 So with all that said, 32:42 this organization called America's Health Rankings, 32:46 they do a rankings of states and their health. 32:48 And for 30 years, 32:50 a lot of policymakers are relying with them 32:52 as far as the status of their health 32:54 in each of the states of United States. 32:57 They have declared 32:58 this America's Health Rankings as 33:02 Alabama 33:03 is the most unhealthiest state in the country 33:08 where we live. 33:10 So if you have one is the best, 50 is the worst, it's 50. 33:12 Yeah, yeah. We're the most unhealthiest. 33:15 All right? 33:16 And so, and South Central takes in that territory. 33:21 So there's a wealth of needed information, 33:25 particularly in South Central in the south, 33:27 and particularly more specifically, 33:30 in the state of Alabama. 33:34 So that's where, 33:35 and that component of health 33:38 opens up the door for evangelism as well. 33:41 Amen. 33:43 You're thinking about the other face to the ministry. 33:45 Oh, me too. 33:46 I think we kind of think what each other reminiscent. 33:48 We do. 33:49 Yeah, you're talking about knowing what each other 33:50 are gonna say? 33:52 So this is exciting, 33:53 because we talked about an update 33:54 to the Ministry of Paula and Curtis Eakins, 33:56 I tell you what? 33:57 This is a good transition to that right now, 33:59 if you guys don't mind 34:00 'cause talking about the state of Alabama 34:01 and the health issues. 34:03 God has opened an incredible door. 34:05 We were on the phone with him, 34:07 oh, what a month or two ago or so. 34:09 And this is recent up-to-date stuff that's happening 34:11 and God is doing marvelous things. 34:14 So tell us what God is doing 34:15 because this is a miracle right now 34:17 in the making right now. 34:18 Okay, so let me just set this up. 34:20 Let me, I think we have a quote. 34:23 Let's have the first cookbook up on screen 34:25 because it kind of seals the deal here, 34:26 fulfilling the need. 34:28 This is a book Evangelism, page 525. 34:30 I just want to kind of massage this 34:32 just for a little while. 34:33 The very first word is critical. 34:37 "Thousands." 34:39 I want to emphasize some words. 34:40 "Thousands 34:42 would gladly receive instruction 34:48 concerning instruction, 34:50 teaching 34:52 demonstration 34:54 classes concerning," 34:56 what? 34:57 "Natural methods of treating the sick 35:01 instead of poisonous drugs." 35:06 Thousands, thousands, 35:09 the rate of drugs has escalated, 35:12 trajectory is increasing at an increasing rate 35:15 with the bell for side effects, 35:18 not just the side effects, 35:19 but some of the most awesome commercials 35:21 we get a chuckle 35:22 when our drug commercial comes on television. 35:24 And again, no side effects? Yeah, really. 35:26 I mean, that's like 80% of the drug commercial, 35:28 like, you know, 35:29 people just smiling, happy, but you know, so, 35:31 but 1000 will be glad. 35:33 We get calls all the time. 35:35 I have blood pressure or diabetes or cancer, 35:38 is anything natural I can do 35:40 because I do not want to go on Metformin. 35:43 I do not wanna take statin drugs. 35:45 I do not want to take steroids. 35:47 Do you have anything natural? 35:49 Thousands. 35:51 Thousands. 35:53 And where we are, 35:54 this is not something we brag on. 35:55 But we live 35:57 in the most unhealthiest state in the United States, Alabama. 36:02 So with that, 36:03 we move more into health ministry 36:05 into the hotels, 36:08 Marriott, Embassy Suites. 36:10 We take the health messages out of the church 36:14 into the community. 36:16 Excellent. 36:17 I think we have picture on that. 36:18 You may want to talk on that too with the next graphic. 36:20 Let's go with one picture we did. 36:21 Sure. Let's do it. 36:23 This picture here. 36:24 This is the healthy heart conference 36:26 we did in Huntsville, Alabama. 36:28 And we've done several of these throughout the state, 36:32 Birmingham. 36:33 Lots of people there. 36:34 There are over 100, close to 150 there. 36:37 They came from over two hours away. 36:40 And this is a three hour conference, 36:43 PowerPoint. 36:44 We have handouts or worksheet and everything. 36:47 And we have the nurses, 36:48 they're taking blood pressure as well. 36:50 And so we've done this. 36:52 When we move the health message 36:55 out of the churches 36:57 into the community are increased, 37:00 other community increases a minimum of 30%. 37:04 That's a minimum 30%. 37:06 A minimum of 30% 37:08 when it's moved in the community 37:09 where the people are, right? 37:12 This is less stressful. 37:14 If they don't want to go to a church, 37:15 but they would go to community. 37:16 What happens to is that fact that 37:18 we had the flyers 37:19 and everything's out there ahead of time, 37:21 the church becomes the host. 37:23 So we're coming in as the speakers. 37:24 So that means when we leave, 37:26 the host church still gets to talk to the people. 37:28 That's evangelism. We have the Bible workers. 37:30 You're talking evangelism. 37:31 Bible workers are on board. 37:33 We have a Bible study, while they're actually with us, 37:36 which is the health message one of our tracts. 37:38 They get to do the Bible study, 37:39 and they have to bring the tract to the church 37:43 for the second part of the program. 37:45 The Amazing Facts tract on health. 37:49 So they get it Saturday 37:51 and then come to church, part two. 37:52 Sunday. Sunday, we fill it out. 37:55 So now we take them through and walk them through 37:57 a Bible study on day two. 37:59 As in a church takes those tracts 38:01 and then go with the other Bible studies 38:04 and now you have 38:05 a whole series of Amazing Facts, 38:07 all 14 lessons. 38:08 It was started with the message of health first. 38:11 So what happens is that 38:12 they know they're going to get a gift. 38:13 They're going to get a gift 38:15 if they finished the study, right? 38:16 So guess what the gift is? 38:17 3ABN pins. 38:19 Really? Thank you. 38:20 Great. You guys are also ambassadors. 38:23 You would think 38:24 those pins are like gold nuggets. 38:26 I didn't get my pin. 38:28 You got two, I didn't get mine. 38:29 I mean, it's like gold nuggets. 38:31 We need to give you some more before you leave here. 38:33 I was just thinking. 38:34 Hey, load us up. Okay. 38:37 So... 38:38 Thanks for being ambassadors, 38:39 so you guys have been for all the years. 38:41 Thank you. So we've done that. 38:42 Marbury ham, Montgomery, Mobile, Selma, Atlanta, 38:46 throughout Mississippi, Tennessee, Nashville, 38:50 the healthy heart conference, defeating diabetes conference, 38:54 controlling cancer conference, 38:56 those three and then we kind of rotate those out 38:58 throughout the south as well. 39:00 But it just is much more fulfilling. 39:04 And let me just say this, 39:06 is much more fulfilling than having it inside a church. 39:12 And one person 39:14 who may not be a member of that church may attend 39:17 or maybe all church members, 39:19 and nobody in the community is inside a church 39:23 taking advantage of that. 39:24 But once it's moving to Marriott, 39:27 Embassy Suites, 39:29 you have the community coming in. 39:31 That's when we get excited. 39:33 That's when we get excited. 39:35 Yes, yes. 39:36 So what's God doing then? 39:38 So now we have a clip, 39:40 I think of that healthy heart conference 39:42 within Huntsville. 39:43 So I think if you can roll that clip at this time. 39:45 Let's see what the people are saying 39:46 about the healthy heart conference in Huntsville 39:48 just a couple years ago. 39:49 All right. Let's go to that roll right now. 39:51 Paula and her husband Curtis 39:54 put on with about health 39:56 because I learned something new every single time. 39:59 My biggest takeaway this time was about red grapes, 40:03 about how they helped to heal the heart and everything. 40:07 I just was amazed by that. 40:09 Learning about strokes, hearts, how to prevent them, 40:12 eating more healthy food, eating non processed food. 40:15 If it has a label, don't eat it. 40:18 Eat the stuff that's healthy, that stuff you go for. 40:21 And I love their conference, 40:23 you can come more than one time, 40:24 more than two times, 40:26 and you're still gonna leave with information 40:27 you never even knew you knew. 40:28 They tell you nothing is free. 40:30 Boy, you missed it 40:32 if you did not come to this conference. 40:33 It was awesome. 40:34 So much good and free information. 40:37 To God be the glory. 40:38 We need more of this, 40:40 but it should not always be free. 40:42 So I heard things that I know 40:43 that I'm going to use immediately. 40:46 The ginger, 40:48 the hawthorn, I never had heard of that. 40:50 Just natural ways 40:51 to get your blood pressure down. 40:53 Eating the right things. 40:55 I probably knew that part. I just keep ignoring it. 40:57 But I feel like it kind of shook me up enough 41:00 to where I'm like, 41:01 I got to do something different. 41:03 So I just encourage you, 41:04 everybody, it was so well attended. 41:06 So everybody, 41:08 certainly make sure you get this information. 41:10 It is literally life changing. 41:14 Wow. 41:15 Great testimonies. I'll tell you what? 41:16 I love the health message 41:18 and evangelism opportunities that it provides. 41:20 I know that's just a taste, right? 41:22 Yeah, that's just a taste. 41:23 You wanna say that one of the persons 41:25 that was actually interviewed 41:26 actually became a Seventh-day Adventist. 41:29 She was the first baptized member 41:31 in our ministry 41:32 that God showed us in our lifetime. 41:34 Yeah, yeah. Praise God. 41:35 Isn't that encouraging? Oh, yeah. 41:36 Biggest Loser campaign we did at our church. 41:39 She went through it and then got baptized. 41:41 Amen. Yes, yes. 41:43 So tell us about the Abundant Living Center? 41:45 Yeah, so the Abundant Living Center, 41:46 this is something 41:48 that God has placed on our hearts, 41:49 my wife and I for 15 years. 41:53 Oh, wow! 41:55 We've been looking, 41:56 we started 2005 on and off not consistent, 41:59 but on and off. 42:00 And we want a place 42:02 where people instead of we going there 42:03 people come to us where we are. 42:05 Now this is not a place where people get treated. 42:08 This is a place where people get educated. 42:11 Okay. Instructions. 42:12 There's a difference, isn't it? 42:14 Demonstration, hands-on, we teach them how to fish. 42:19 How to put the bait on a hook, how to throw it out, 42:22 how to reel it in, 42:23 how to clean it and how to eat it. 42:25 So when they go back... 42:26 A vegetarian fish. There you go. 42:27 Okay, he's paying attention. Yes, he is. 42:29 So it's more instruction. 42:31 And so we've been looking here and there, 42:32 we now have a Christian Adventist on real turf. 42:35 And we found something that is our future. 42:40 Amen. 42:41 Abundant Living Center 42:44 in a state that needs it more than any other state, 42:49 not bragging which is Alabama. 42:51 All right? 42:52 So I'm not complaining, just explaining, 42:55 we need this more than any other place. 42:57 And so, I want to just look at the first picture 43:00 because the first picture may be surprising. 43:03 What I'm looking at? 43:05 Well, let's look at the first picture, 43:06 first of all, 43:07 and let me explain this right now. 43:09 So therefore, now this is simply the driveway 43:12 leading up to our future Abundant Living Center. 43:17 It's beautiful. Look at the trees. 43:18 So this is away from city influences all together. 43:23 And what's interesting about that is, 43:26 the Abundant Living future center 43:28 is in 804th Preserve. 43:34 Wow. 43:36 Inside the city yet without the city influences. 43:39 800 acres? 43:41 Yes. 43:42 And it sits on the edge of that forest. 43:45 Yeah, this property does. 43:46 Right, so you drive up, elevated 43:48 and that's where 43:50 the Abundant Living Center future, 43:52 we didn't have it yet but as far as that's concern. 43:55 And so let's go to the next place 43:57 and this is the home right there at the center. 43:59 You can see from a distance. 44:00 Yeah, it is nestled in a forest. 44:03 And I mean it's just so conducive 44:06 to what we want to do 44:07 and it's away from all city influences 44:09 but yet and still 44:11 inside the city of Huntsville our home base 44:13 where we have been working for over 30 years as well. 44:16 All right? Oh, yeah. 44:17 So now the next picture, my wife when she saw this, 44:21 she started foaming at the mouth, 44:23 started drooling. 44:24 So the next picture is 44:26 the Abundant Living kitchen inside our ministry, 44:29 so let's go there and talk about. 44:30 So when I saw this kitchen, 44:32 I was like, okay, God, you know, 44:33 you just now did yourself on this one for real, 44:36 because I've always wanted not only teach classes, 44:39 but also have hands-on. 44:40 That's important. 44:41 And in this kitchen everything is there 44:43 between stoves and ovens. 44:45 Everything is needed is actually there. 44:47 So they can come in and not only learn 44:49 about how to eat right, 44:50 but they can also work on the things with me. 44:52 Yes, yes. 44:54 So we have the conference there, 44:55 the kitchen, demonstration, instruction, 44:58 right there in a Abundant Living home, 45:01 they can come and educate. 45:02 This would be like a half day 45:03 from 9 to 12 45:05 and then maybe have a lunch, that kind of thing. 45:06 So any class as far as healthy heart conference, 45:11 defeating diabetes conference, controlling cancer conference 45:15 and also the winning way weight loss, 45:16 right, those four, 45:18 we kind of rotate those out alike. 45:19 So now with that, 45:22 the next picture 45:23 on the same property is 14 acres. 45:26 The Abundant Living pavilion. 45:29 This is over 700 square foot. 45:33 So people outside you can distant 45:36 weather permitting there forth. 45:37 Oh, yeah. 45:38 Now this is also has a full fledge kitchen. 45:41 I was gonna ask, it looks like there's a kitchen in there too. 45:43 Yeah, full fledge, so therefore we're gonna do. 45:45 So now we're teaching outdoors. 45:46 Outdoors, all right? 45:47 There's an indoor kitchen, and an outdoor kitchen? 45:49 In and out kitchen. Indoor and outdoor. Yeah. 45:51 Indoor and outdoor, all right. 45:52 So on the same property, all right? 45:54 Let's go to the next picture, all right. 45:56 And so now this is the back. 45:58 Now you notice here, it is surrounded by trees, 46:03 cedar trees is carved out on a mountain, 46:08 looking over everything. 46:10 And so therefore, 46:12 that picture there on the left side 46:13 would be our garden bed, 46:17 raised garden bed will be class instruction. 46:19 And talk just little about that, Honey? 46:21 The raised garden bed is important 46:22 because we don't only want them to learn how to cook, 46:24 we want them to learn how to be self sufficient. 46:26 Good. 46:27 So the Lord blessed that 46:28 when I was going through my cancer experience, 46:30 I had the opportunity to be a part of a grant 46:32 that was done by the Cancer Society 46:34 where I was selected along with others 46:36 to actually learn how to do a garden, 46:39 a raised bed garden. 46:40 Not only to be raised that we had three master gardeners 46:43 that came out every single month, 46:45 and I had to put the soil in the ground 46:47 and put the plants in the ground. 46:48 They came in watching everything. 46:50 And so we actually did a summer, a winter, 46:52 a fall and a spring garden. 46:54 Learning how to eat all year round, 46:56 come out your back door, 46:58 get your collard greens, come out the back door 46:59 get your lettuce and tomatoes, 47:00 everything, this blows your mind. 47:02 And then it was because of all the people 47:04 who were involved. 47:05 I was selected from Alabama public television 47:07 to do a special program showing about that. 47:11 And you know, it was plant-based, right? 47:12 So you know why they were there. 47:13 I had to make some scrambled tofu 47:15 with the stuff out the garden and gave them a smoothie. 47:17 They were like, "We didn't expect all that." 47:19 But so, God is awesome. 47:21 So there's a place on this property, 47:22 how many acres really quick? 47:24 Fourteen acres. Fourteen acres. 47:25 So that was the back of the home and pavilion. 47:28 So on the left side would be our raised garden bed, 47:31 and also a greenhouse. 47:32 So that would be more of the instruction as well 47:35 as far as that's concern. 47:36 So therefore, now if the crock is too big, 47:39 and it will, we just expect, 47:41 I mean, God's gonna do more than 47:42 we can even ask or think. 47:44 Yes. 47:46 Therefore, on a property... Yes. 47:49 We're expecting something big. 47:50 All right. Let's go to the next picture. 47:53 We gonna primed up, Honey. 47:56 So now this is a store shed. 47:59 We would simply transform, give this a major facelift, 48:04 transform this into our main convention center, 48:08 conference center right there on property. 48:11 The Abundant Living Conference Center. 48:13 Yes. Wow. 48:14 Fifteen hundred acre, I mean, 1500 square foot. 48:18 Yes. Yes. Right. 48:19 So the middle section would be the conference itself, 48:22 elevated stage. 48:24 Right. 48:25 And cooking stations separate. 48:26 Over the other side 48:28 would be the seminar lecture demonstration. 48:30 The far building that distance 48:32 would be the Abundant Living store, 48:34 the one on the closer to you because there's three sections 48:37 would be the Abundant Living Fitness Center. 48:40 Yes. 48:42 All on property total of 1500 acre. 48:45 So God has ample room for us to grow as well, 48:49 the Abundant Living Center. 48:51 Yes. 48:52 A state that needs it 48:54 more than any other state, Alabama. 48:58 But it's also open to anybody 48:59 because people always call us and say, 49:01 "I wish I live where you guys live. 49:03 I'd love to come and just, 49:04 I'm just going through so much." 49:06 So we won't know on our property 49:07 that we will also have areas 49:09 where they can sit down and rest a while 49:11 and talk to the Lord and just, 49:13 we want them to refresh themselves 49:14 and know that 49:16 whatever their battle they're going through, 49:17 whether it's nutrition, physical, physical, spiritual, 49:20 mental, social, 49:21 whatever's going on, when they leave that place, 49:23 they will leave ready to go back 49:26 to whatever they're doing out there. 49:28 So you're mentioning a word here future. 49:31 So tell us why you're saying future? 49:33 Well, because we don't have it yet, 49:34 that's why we say future. 49:36 We're claiming it. 49:37 God is working, exactly. 49:39 And so what we want to do we want to ask people 49:40 who are watching to pray with us. 49:44 God's word, well not God's word, 49:46 But Ellen White mentioned, 49:47 make a statement that 49:49 sometimes properties are available 49:51 far below the market value. 49:55 Yes, yes. 49:56 We have a prime example of Loma Linda in California. 49:59 That's right. 50:00 We gonna do the same there, 50:02 pray with the boss that is concerned 50:03 and those who want to contribute 50:05 a partnership in this venture as well. 50:07 I think we have a roll later on about our address 50:09 and how they can contact us as well. 50:11 And I've just finished a business plan as well, 50:13 present that as well. 50:15 So therefore, we're just claiming these, 50:17 we just want to share this. 50:18 And thank you for allowing us 50:20 to share our ministry with the 3ABN audience. 50:21 This is exciting. Yes. 50:23 We believe in what God is doing in and through your ministry. 50:27 We are excited about the Abundant Living Center. 50:31 We are claiming it by faith with law. 50:34 And we know that our 3ABN family at home 50:37 that you are movers and shakers, 50:39 and that you believe in health evangelism, 50:41 that you believe that 50:43 the health message is the right arm of the gospel. 50:46 And that you have seen Curtis and Paula for years 50:49 with Abundant Living know their ministry. 50:51 And just want to encourage you right now 50:53 that if the Lord has put on your heart, 50:55 number one to pray for them, 50:58 pray for this ministry, 51:01 and pray for this incredible opportunity 51:04 that the Lord is opening up. 51:05 Number two, we want to encourage you to ask God, 51:09 what He wants you to do 51:11 to help financially support to partner with their ministry. 51:16 What we want to do right now is go to their address roll. 51:19 This would be the contact information 51:21 for Curtis and Paula. 51:23 If the Lord puts on your heart to financially support, 51:26 if you have questions about the Abundant Living Center, 51:29 and you just want more information, 51:32 if you want to know more about 51:34 healthy eating, healthy living, 51:37 if you want to stand with them. 51:39 We here at 3ABN have made that decision 51:41 that we are standing with them 51:43 in this exciting adventure that God is opening up. 51:47 So let's go to that address right now. 51:52 For more information about Health Seminars, Inc, 51:55 please contact them at (256) 859-1982. 52:00 That's (256) 859-1982. 52:06 Their address is PO Box 2873, Huntsville, Alabama 35804. 52:13 That's PO Box 2873, 52:16 Huntsville, Alabama 35804. 52:20 And finally, you can email them at Hseminar@BellSouth.net. 52:25 That's Hseminar@BellSouth.net |
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