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00:01 As you're well aware,
00:03 we're living in unprecedented times. 00:05 Join us now for today's special program. 00:12 I want to spend my life 00:18 Mending broken people 00:23 I want to spend my life 00:29 Removing pain 00:34 Lord, let my words 00:39 Heal a heart that hurts 00:44 I want to spend my life 00:50 Mending broken people 00:55 I want to spend my life 01:00 Mending broken people 01:15 Hello and welcome to another 3ABN Today program. 01:18 I'm Jason Bradley, and I'm so excited 01:20 that you decided to tune in today. 01:22 And I want to share with you a little story 01:24 about when I was a little boy. 01:26 When I was a little boy, 01:27 I used to get excited about traveling places 01:30 and getting on airplanes. 01:32 And this was pre 9/11 days. 01:34 So I was able to go to the cockpit 01:36 and talk to the pilots and receive my wings. 01:39 And I just felt like 01:41 I was going to be able to fly the plane. 01:43 Well, I still can't fly a plane, 01:44 but my guests here today can 01:47 and allow me to introduce them to you. 01:49 We have Pastor Rick Swanson. 01:53 Did I pronounce that? 01:54 Brilliantly. Oh, perfect. 01:55 And you are the Adventist World Aviation president and CEO, 02:00 welcome to the program. 02:02 And we have Kyle Stevenson, 02:04 Adventist, World Aviation, chief of maintenance, 02:07 and we have Rebecca Stevenson, 02:09 executive administrative assistant, welcome. 02:13 Thank you. 02:14 Now, before we jump into the veggie meat 02:17 and potatoes of this interview, 02:20 we're going to be blessed in song by Pam 02:23 Lister who's singing "Written in Red." 02:26 Amen. 02:38 In letters of crimson 02:43 God wrote His love 02:47 On the hillside so long 02:51 Long ago 02:55 For you and for me 03:00 Jesus died 03:05 And love's greatest story 03:10 Was told 03:16 I love you 03:21 I love you 03:26 That's what 03:28 Calvary said 03:35 I love you 03:40 I love you 03:47 I love you 03:50 Written 03:53 In Red 04:04 Down through the ages 04:08 God wrote His love 04:13 With the same hands 04:15 That suffered and bled 04:22 Giving all 04:27 That he had to give 04:31 A message 04:33 So easily read 04:40 I love you 04:45 I love you 04:50 That's what 04:52 Calvary said 04:59 I love you 05:03 I love you 05:10 I love you 05:16 Oh, precious 05:20 Is the flow 05:25 That makes me 05:29 White as snow 05:35 No other fount 05:40 I know 05:43 Nothing but the blood 05:47 The blood of Jesus 05:52 I love you 05:56 I love you 06:01 That's what 06:04 Calvary said 06:10 I love you 06:15 I love you 06:22 I love you 06:25 Written 06:31 In Red 06:54 Thank you for that beautiful song, 06:55 Pam, Written in Red. 06:57 You know, everything that we do should be motivated by love. 07:01 And I would imagine with Adventist World Aviation, 07:05 there's a lot of love going across the earth. 07:09 So tell me a little bit about your background, 07:11 Pastor Rick, were you always in the church? 07:14 No, I wasn't, 07:17 I actually entered the ministry 07:19 fairly late in life compared to my colleagues. 07:21 I actually worked for an oil company for many years. 07:23 I was an executive for an oil company. 07:24 Okay. 07:26 And climbing the corporate ladder, 07:28 and I owned a couple of businesses as well. 07:30 And, it struck me 07:34 like a bolt of lightning between the eyes 07:36 that I was gaining the whole world, 07:37 and I was losing my soul. 07:39 And, so in my late 20s, 07:42 I made the decision to... 07:47 turn things around. 07:50 I had all the success in the world, 07:51 but I was missing, 07:53 so it was a big vacuum in my life, 07:55 and so I put my car in park 07:58 in the middle of the Florida Turnpike. 07:59 I was down there and got on my hands and knees and prayed. 08:03 And for the first time, really in my life, 08:05 a prayer to a connected God, 08:07 and He found me 08:09 because I was the one that was lost, He wasn't. 08:11 Amen. 08:12 And so, I started studying for the ministry, 08:14 and went in the ministry after that. 08:16 And I've been a pastor for many years. 08:18 I've been an evangelist for this church, 08:20 a full time conference evangelist down in Florida, 08:22 and then went up to Wisconsin for many years, 08:23 pastored up there, and full-time evangelist, 08:25 and citywide evangelism coordinator 08:27 in the conference office, 08:29 and during that period of time, I became a pilot. 08:34 And that was one of the heart's desires 08:37 of my life to become a pilot like you were talking about 08:40 when you were young 08:41 I too went to that cockpit and... 08:44 You made it. 08:45 Well, you know he not only gave me a pen, 08:48 but he gave me a hat. 08:49 It was a Northwest Orient because, 08:51 of course, I'm dating myself. 08:52 It was back in the 60s. 08:53 And I was on flying on a Northwest Orient flight 08:55 and the captain had a cap 08:57 and I have it in my office to this day. 09:00 It hangs up there, and that's what inspired me, 09:02 and my mom encouraged me, 09:03 my dad encouraged me of course to, 09:05 you know, follow the dreams of my heart. 09:06 And so, I was able to soar with Jesus first in ministry 09:13 and then the privilege of flight came later. 09:16 And so, I've been flying for over, 09:19 well over 20 years now 09:20 and several thousand hours of time, 09:23 and yeah, the Lord is, Lord has blessed. 09:26 And how did you get into AWA? 09:29 Well, I was working... 09:33 I worked in Texas on the church planting program 09:35 for years, and I was down there. 09:37 I just left Wisconsin Conference 09:40 out of the conference office and went down to Texas 09:42 and I used my aircraft in evangelism 09:47 when I would hold a series of meetings. 09:49 In fact, I did one here 09:50 years ago with 3ABN and, Michael, 09:52 we were talking about him earlier 09:54 was on our production crew 09:55 and we got to talking about aviation 09:57 and he knew I was a pilot, 09:59 but I would take people up in the airplane 10:01 that would come to our evangelistic meetings 10:03 and I've done meetings, I've done, I think, 10:05 well over 200 meetings throughout my career, 10:09 but I would take people up on airplane rides 10:11 and I would have a, you know, a saying that it's, 10:13 you know, more people gave their souls to Jesus 10:14 in my aircraft than they did in my evangelistic meetings, 10:16 you know, I never did anything scary 10:20 with them, of course, but... 10:21 That was my next line. 10:23 Yeah, that's, 10:24 you just don't do that, but you know... 10:25 What kind of appeal was made? 10:27 But that connection is there, 10:28 you know, when you make that human connection, 10:30 that warmth, I mean, it's one thing to be preached 10:33 to, but when you make that human interaction connection, 10:35 and when you bring somebody on board an aircraft 10:38 and you fly with them, 10:39 you know, they're trusting the pilot 10:40 that, you know, my life is in your hands, 10:42 and you know, 10:44 I never would take advantage of that, of course, 10:46 but we would make those connections 10:48 and I would hand that hand to Jesus, 10:50 and as a result of that, people were baptized. 10:53 So I was always using aviation is somehow I just try, 10:56 Lord, help me use this skill 10:58 that you've had given me the privilege to learn. 11:00 Help me find a way to deliver that to Your people. 11:04 And so, the next thing I know, 11:07 I am being called by a couple of different institutions. 11:09 One was the Quiet Hour 11:10 'cause I did a lot of work for them. 11:12 The Quiet Hour was looking for a president at the time, 11:14 this was 10 years ago now. 11:15 And it just so happened 11:18 that one of the board of directors 11:21 that was on the Quiet Hour also simultaneously 11:23 a board of directors on Adventist World Aviation. 11:25 And he says, "Hey, wait a minute. 11:27 I know Rick, that's that flying evangelist." 11:29 Yeah, and I was like the flying nun, right? 11:31 So anyway, he says, "I know him. 11:35 We're also looking for a president." 11:37 So now I had two calls to entertain. 11:40 California didn't seem to be too appealing to me, 11:42 I didn't want to move out to California. 11:43 So that wasn't as interesting, 11:45 but Adventist World Aviation became interesting 11:46 because I had an opportunity to both share the gospel, 11:50 and share the passion of flying 11:52 and then a mission throughout the world, 11:54 because I knew the mission work 11:56 of Adventist World Aviation and what they were all about. 11:57 It was about soul-winning. 11:59 Yes, yes. Amen. 12:00 Yeah. Rebecca, what about you? 12:02 Did you grow up in the church? And... 12:05 Tell us a little bit about your background? 12:06 Yeah, I did grow up in the church, 12:10 I was in a home with my mother and my grandmother 12:13 and my grandfather. 12:14 My father was not present for that, 12:16 but I was always around it. 12:20 And even from a very early age, 12:22 I believe that I had the very strong sense 12:26 that God was calling me to mission work. 12:28 And it terrified me, absolutely terrified me. 12:31 And it was to the point where I spent pretty much 12:34 the last two decades running 12:40 because it freaked me out so much, 12:43 but yet every portion and aspect of my running, 12:47 there was always that underlying motive 12:50 that I need to help someone, 12:52 I need to be there to minister to him. 12:54 There was always that, that ingrained, 12:56 you're a missionary and you need to act like it. 12:58 So it was always there. 13:00 So, yeah, I grew up with that in mind 13:04 and it wasn't, I think until 13:05 just really over the past five years, 13:08 five, six years, 13:10 I think that God has really gotten a hold of me 13:13 and put me in the right direction 13:16 where I can really be of use to Him. 13:18 Amen. 13:19 What was it about the mission work specifically 13:22 that scared you so much? 13:24 Well, because my home kind of was a bit broken, 13:28 and my father wasn't involved and the one father figure 13:31 that I did have constant interaction 13:33 with, that was my grandfather. 13:36 He sadly had his own struggles 13:38 and that was not a good example of a father figure. 13:41 And so, my thought is, well, 13:43 if this is what it's like to have a father figure, 13:45 and I know that, you know, 13:46 heavenly father is always watching out for me 13:49 and always caring for me well, that was hard to reconcile. 13:52 So the thought was, if I serve God, 13:55 he's going to ship me off to Africa and then abandon me 13:58 because I think at that point, I mean, 14:00 I was born in '85 and still in the church, 14:03 there was a lot of talk about, you know, missionaries 14:05 they were far off foreign lands, 14:07 oftentimes about Africa. 14:08 So that was my thought, if you're a missionary, 14:10 you're going to go to Africa. 14:12 So that, that was my fear that I would be separated, 14:14 that I would be abandoned, that I'd be forgotten. 14:18 And then I just kind of fizzle into nothing. 14:20 And that scared me being an only child 14:24 in a single parent home, so. 14:26 Yes. 14:27 And how did you transition into Adventist World Aviation? 14:31 That was God's victory in my life pursuing me 14:35 and getting a hold of my heart, making it my idea to serve. 14:41 He whispered in my ear, oh, about five years ago, 14:45 you know, what if you became a pilot 14:47 for missionary aviation? 14:48 And because of where I was sitting 14:50 right there mentally, emotionally, 14:52 just where I was, I'm like, "Oh yeah, what if..." 14:55 But then it was one of those instances 14:57 where it's a notion you can't just push off, 15:00 it just keeps eating at you and digging at you. 15:02 And it's like, okay, I need to look into that. 15:05 And as I looked into it and looked into the criteria, 15:07 I'm like, that's a lot, 15:10 but you know, you're calling me to it, 15:13 then it's going to happen. 15:14 And that was kind of the seed 15:16 that was planted, and shortly after that 15:20 we discovered Adventist World Aviation. 15:22 We had no idea that that was even a ministry, 15:26 and once we learned of it, oh, we got super excited 15:28 and I started doing benefit concerts 15:31 for fundraising for AWA. 15:34 And then it traveled into both my husband 15:37 and I being taken on as missionaries and training. 15:39 We were going to go to Uganda, 15:42 that's its own story all in there. 15:44 And then things shifted. 15:46 And here we are with AWA today. That's incredible. 15:49 So when Rebecca first called our office, 15:54 I wasn't sure, you know, we get calls all the time. 15:56 Yes. 15:58 And, you know, you never know 15:59 if they're a serious call or if it's just, 16:01 you know, I was telling you earlier 16:02 before the show that, 16:04 you know, people falling out of the airplane, 16:05 some tragedy happens in their life 16:07 and, you know, and they jump out, 16:09 they forget their parachute or the parachute doesn't open 16:11 or something like, well, Lord, if you just save me, 16:13 you know, I'll dedicate my life to you, 16:15 and you know, we all have had those jump out of airplanes 16:18 and maybe not literally jumped out of an airplane, 16:20 but those experiences in our life 16:21 where we were reaching some sort of crescendo 16:24 in our life that is going to explode, 16:27 and so I'll just serve you if I can. 16:29 And so we get a lot of those calls and you get, 16:31 you have to filter those out. 16:32 So when Rebecca and Kyle called, 16:34 I wasn't sure, okay, well, 16:35 they seem sincere, but what's going on with them? 16:38 And, you know, the more I talked to Rebecca, 16:41 the more I thought this woman and this man 16:43 have a heart for the Lord. 16:45 And she said, "Well, my husband," 16:46 she told me about her husband. 16:48 And he'll, you can ask him about this in a minute. 16:49 But then she said, well, I said, 16:52 you know, what can you do for AWA? 16:53 She says, well, what can I do for AWA? 16:55 And I said, I don't know, what can you do? 16:56 We just did that for a little bit. 16:57 Well, what can I do for AWA? 16:59 Well, I don't know, what can you do? 17:00 And she said, "Well, I can sing." 17:02 And I said, "Okay." 17:05 And I'd had no idea how professional she is. 17:08 This woman sings like an angel. 17:11 You know, when she sings, birds stopped to listen to her. 17:14 And it's amazing, and so the first, 17:16 you know, we didn't do an audition, 17:18 but when she sent in her tape 17:19 I heard a little commercial 17:21 with I think on YouTube or something. 17:23 They sang a little thing 17:24 and I listened to that and I went, 17:26 "Oh, wow." 17:27 And so she started doing benefit concerts for us, 17:29 and then I learned... 17:30 The benefit concert that I sent you as reference. 17:32 Yeah. 17:33 That first concert that we did. Nice. 17:35 And so, then I learned more about her husband and, 17:38 you know, he's a quintessential aviation professional 17:42 in aircraft engineering and maintenance. 17:45 And so we had a desperate need for that. 17:48 And, so, you know, one of the things 17:50 that we have noticed that, 17:52 you know, throughout the years 17:54 that God gives us multiple talents, 17:56 most of professionals 17:57 that I know are, you know, bivocational, 18:00 trivocational, quadrivocational, 18:01 they have different things that we are capable of, 18:03 and 3ABN does that to an extent, 18:06 I mean, camera operators also make up our operators 18:09 and production supervisors and you guys do it all. 18:12 It's amazing to watch the people here work. 18:13 Right. 18:15 Well, most of that happens in most industries 18:17 as well in aviation. 18:19 And so, you know, Rebecca is not only a, 18:21 you know, a pilot in training but she's, 18:24 you know, multitalented spiritually 18:26 as well as physically. 18:28 And she's my executive assistant as well, 18:29 and her husband now is our director of maintenance. 18:33 So it's just, it's amazing the talents 18:34 that these guys have. 18:36 Absolutely. 18:37 And that would meant 18:39 for this specific calling that God has placed. 18:42 It's like he custom tailors us just for that. 18:44 Yeah. That's incredible. 18:45 Kyle, tell me a little bit about your background? 18:48 So I grew up in Springfield, Oregon, and raised there. 18:53 And like you, as a kid, I had aviation dream. 18:57 I wanted to be a pilot. 18:58 And, you know, the third grader 19:00 that came in to Career Day 19:03 dressed as a pilot, that was me. 19:04 Yes. 19:06 But, as I got older, I started to realize that... 19:09 My parents started to realize that I had a lot more talent 19:12 than even I think I realized 19:13 that I had a lot of mechanical skills 19:17 and I started to really want to just do everything aviation. 19:22 Like my goal when I got out of high school 19:24 was to just like major, 19:25 you know, if anyone could major in aviation, 19:27 that's what I wanted to do. 19:28 I wanted to do everything. 19:31 But so I started off 19:33 getting my what's called an airframe 19:34 and powerplant license. 19:36 Okay. 19:37 So I have actually, I have three 19:40 FAA licenses currently. 19:42 I have my airframe and powerplant license. 19:43 I have now a student pilot license. 19:46 I have the highest tier of aircraft maintenance, 19:49 which is the inspector's authorization, 19:52 which basically allows me to... 19:55 I can do major modifications and repairs to aircraft 19:59 and sign them off legally. 20:00 So it's a lot... 20:02 There's a lot of engineering that goes into that. 20:05 A lot of people don't realize that aircraft maintenance, 20:07 isn't just like, you know, working on a car. 20:11 Which is hard enough in of itself. 20:12 Yeah. 20:13 When you are in an airplane, you can't pull off 20:15 to the side of the road 20:16 and, you know, tinker on your car. 20:17 Yes, that's true. 20:19 So we do a lot of what's called preventative maintenance. 20:20 Got you. 20:22 So they're scheduled maintenance 20:23 on aircraft that we have to do, 20:25 called like a hundred hours and annual. 20:27 So every hundred flight hours, 20:28 we have to maintain an aircraft, 20:29 every year we have to do 20:31 special maintenance on aircraft. 20:32 Wow. 20:34 So that's kind of my main... 20:38 Function. 20:40 Yeah, Kyle takes care, 20:41 he's in charge of our entire fleet, 20:43 so yeah. 20:44 So in other words, you're very busy. 20:45 Yes. Yes. 20:47 But as for, you know, I didn't grow up Adventist. 20:50 Okay. 20:51 I grew up Christian, 20:54 but I kind of fell away from the church for, 20:57 for many years. 20:58 I got my first job working with the, 21:01 one of probably one of the largest flight schools 21:03 on the West Coast, which was at that time 21:05 Hillsboro Aviation. 21:06 Okay. 21:07 And I worked for them for 17 years 21:11 kind of working my way up. 21:13 I started as a mechanic 21:14 and I finished as a chief inspector. 21:17 Wow. 21:19 And so I have many years of aircraft maintenance 21:22 and management. 21:25 Seventeen plus. 21:27 I met my wife through a friend. 21:29 It's kind of a funny story because this friend of mine, 21:33 he's kind of known for poorly introducing people, 21:38 but not always the best, but he kind of warned me. 21:44 He's like, 'cause at that time 21:45 I wasn't a practicing Christian, but he warned me. 21:48 He's like, well, I, you know, I got to warn you, 21:50 Kyle, that she is, oh, 21:51 I can't really, really remember what the name is. 21:53 I think it's Seventh-day adventurist 21:55 or something like that, 21:57 I'm like Seventh day adventurist. 21:59 Well, that sounds interesting. 22:03 I did a little more searching and found out it was Adventist, 22:05 but obviously we're now married 22:08 and that she introduced me to the Adventist Church 22:11 and I honestly, 22:13 I just fell in love with the Adventist Church. 22:15 Yes. 22:17 So that's, I mean, I'm baptized now and... 22:19 Praise the Lord. Wow. 22:20 And he's head deacon in our church as well, so. 22:23 That's awesome. 22:24 Lord has been preparing 22:26 all of you for this specific role. 22:28 What's the mission of Adventist World Aviation? 22:32 So Adventist World Aviation, our mission is to reach 22:37 the unreached peoples of this world, 22:40 and to help the seemingly helpless. 22:44 We were, we had our roots in the church 22:48 back before the 90s. 22:51 The church itself was, 22:54 had grown significantly prior to, 22:56 really prior to the 70s in aviation, 22:59 and following one of the leaders 23:03 that helped found our church, Sister White and her husband 23:07 that help give good growth to our church. 23:10 The advice was used every method possible 23:12 to reach a soul. 23:13 And so we can with aviation 23:16 reach an interior of a country that most people don't get to. 23:21 It would take maybe up to three weeks, 23:23 maybe a month to reach interiors of some country. 23:25 In Brazil, for instance, it can take 23:28 even more than a month to get to some portions 23:30 of, of the Amazon that most people don't go to. 23:34 So, you know, but in aviation, 23:36 a flight where you can get there in a couple of hours. 23:38 And so we can reach, you know, we hear about, 23:40 like I mentioned earlier, the Quiet Hour, 23:42 we do evangelism all throughout the world, 23:44 but they usually go to the major cities. 23:46 The big question is what about 23:48 the interior that takes three, four, sometimes six weeks 23:50 to get to by boat or by donkey or whatever. 23:55 How do you reach them? 23:56 Well, we can reach them through aviation. 23:57 So that's an evangelistic tool. 24:00 Yes. 24:01 And so during the early 70s 24:05 and late, all through the late 80s, 24:09 we've seen a decline 24:10 in aviation support in the church. 24:12 And a lot of it was because of a couple accidents 24:14 that had happened inside of aviation. 24:16 And unfortunately when an accident happens 24:20 in aviation, everybody talks about it. 24:22 And the reason everybody talks about it 24:24 is because it's so unusual. 24:25 If I was... 24:27 I think you said you were from New York. 24:28 If I said, "Hey brother, 24:29 do you know that there was a car accident 24:31 this morning up in New York City 24:32 and it killed three people." 24:34 And you'd go, "Yeah, what hour?" 24:36 Yeah. 24:38 I don't want to make fun of that but, 24:39 you know, that's the reality. 24:40 Yeah. Car accidents, it's common. 24:42 And we don't talk about accidents 24:44 that maybe happen in Chicago or New York car accidents, 24:47 because it's so common. 24:48 But when an airplane, now, 24:49 if I would have said, an airplane, 24:51 landed on the highway 24:52 and it crashed and killed all three passengers. 24:54 Oh my goodness. 24:55 It makes, you know, worldwide news in some cases. 24:58 And the reason it makes news 24:59 is because it's not the normal statistically, 25:02 I think you're more statistically 25:05 likely to get killed in a broom sweeping accident 25:08 than you are in an aviation related accident. 25:10 But, you know, so it's a very safe industry, 25:13 but unfortunately what ends up happening 25:15 when something happens 25:18 it can diminish because of loss prevention concerns. 25:19 Got you. 25:21 And so our church was slowly closing down 25:23 aviation site after event, 25:24 closing different avenues of it. 25:26 Our GC president at the time was Elder Robert Folkenberg, 25:29 and I worked with Bob for many years in evangelism 25:32 and global evangelism before it became Share Him. 25:34 And Elder Folkenberg 25:37 was the founder of Adventist World Aviation. 25:40 He did it back when he was the president in the GC. 25:42 In 1993, he met with the conference officials 25:46 and his GC professionals, 25:47 they went out to or his GC office staff 25:50 went out to Andrews University 25:52 and they met there at Andrews University 25:54 and developed Adventist World Aviation. 25:56 Okay. 25:57 We are supporting ministry to the church, 25:59 we are Adventist Christians. 26:02 Most all of us are, you know, baptized members 26:04 in good standing with the church. 26:06 There's a few that work with us at periphery levels 26:08 that we're working with that they'll soon be Christians, 26:11 an Adventist Christians as well we hope, 26:12 but the idea is that we serve the church, 26:16 and we do that independent of the church. 26:18 So there's no liability for the church. 26:20 And so we're able to do things that they cannot do. 26:23 So you are a lay ministry? 26:25 Well, no, because all of us are professionals, but... 26:28 Well, yes. I got you. 26:30 Yeah, but we are a, we are a separate entity, 26:32 much like... 26:34 That's what I mean by that. 26:35 Much like, yeah, much like, but we are one of the few, 26:37 like 3ABN supporting 26:39 fully on supporting ministry to our church. 26:41 And we operate under the guidelines of, 26:45 you know, the Adventist Church and the faith, 26:46 and that's obviously important to us, 26:48 but our main mission is to reach the unreached 26:52 and we use aviation to accomplish that. 26:56 And most of the work that we do is life saving stuff. 26:59 So a lot of the things 27:00 that we do are medically related. 27:02 Okay. 27:03 In fact, in just a few minutes, 27:05 I'll tell you a story about a little girl, 27:06 a little boy that we just saved, 27:08 you know, participated in the saving of his life. 27:11 And an elderly person 27:13 that we flew back here after loss. 27:15 And so we deal 27:17 kind of have both ends of the spectrum 27:18 early life to saving life to a medical emergency evacs. 27:23 And when you do that in a third world country, 27:25 when they're not used to somebody caring enough 27:27 about them to literally save their life. 27:29 Not too many years ago, 27:31 you know, the first time 27:33 I heard of Adventist World Aviation, 27:34 I started watching what they do. 27:36 And I started watching some video clips, 27:37 and it happens all the time, but it wasn't that long ago, 27:40 just a few months back 27:43 a little girl was bit by a venomous snake. 27:47 And we had to transport 27:48 that little girl from the jungle, 27:50 basically into a medical facility 27:53 where she could get the anti-venom. 27:55 Well, under their current medical system, 27:57 even though they have, 27:58 you know, "paid medical services," 28:00 they don't have air transport, 28:02 she would have died. 28:03 There was just no hope because, 28:05 you know, the anti-venom wasn't available there. 28:08 And if it is available there, there's a shelf life on it. 28:10 So they can't always keep all this stuff. 28:11 So it's usually kept in the bigger cities, 28:13 which is sometimes, as I said, 28:14 you know, you're not going to make the three week journey 28:16 or the two week or even a two day journey. 28:18 You need to get there now. 28:19 So we loaded her up on the plane. 28:20 We flew her there, of course, saved her life 28:22 and then brought her back again. 28:24 And that's another challenge because many people said, 28:26 well, don't take anybody to the hospital 28:27 because that's where you go to die 28:29 or that's, you go there and you get lost there 28:30 because even if you can get transportation there, 28:32 the family doesn't have money to transport them back. 28:35 And so they ended up getting stuck in the city 28:37 for a lot of different reasons. 28:38 And so we'll bring them there, 28:40 but we also bring them back to their families 28:43 and then their families like, 28:44 wow, how could, why do you do this? 28:46 And it's because you're a child of God. 28:48 And, you know, you're just, you know, you're creation, 28:50 you're God's creation and you're God's jewels. 28:53 And so we do that for that reason. 28:55 It really opens the door 28:57 for a powerful witnessing opportunity. 28:59 Now they want to know more about this Jesus 29:01 that you just described as a creator. 29:02 And they just, well, tell me about this Jesus. 29:04 Okay. That's what we do. 29:05 And so then on the sidelines, 29:07 we sit down and we have Bible studies. 29:08 So we're trained to do that as well. 29:09 Yes, what kind of challenges 29:12 do you face in terms of finding a place to land? 29:15 Because, you know, when you're talking 29:17 about going three hours into the jungle and three ends, 29:20 all of these places, I would imagine 29:22 you're not going to see your major airport 29:24 or anything right there. 29:26 So where are you landing? 29:27 So it's good question. 29:29 We, first off, we have specially equipped aircraft 29:32 that our chief engineer 29:33 and a mechanic here of maintenance department. 29:38 They make sure that our planes 29:39 are number one in pristine condition, 29:40 but number two, 29:42 we install different things in them, 29:43 like a stol kit, S-T-O-L, 29:45 which stands for short takeoff and landing. 29:48 And we install those in and we can take 29:51 a fixed wing aircraft and land in an area 29:56 in a shorter distance, not quite like a helicopter 29:58 can, but approaching 30:00 very close helicopter abilities... 30:01 Okay. 30:02 Because of the stol kits that we put in, 30:05 the aircraft fly very slow before they land. 30:08 And it doesn't take much runway when we have the stol kit. 30:10 So first off, we make sure 30:12 that we have the right equipment 30:13 in the area that we go into. 30:15 The second thing, of course, we do, 30:16 we don't land anywhere we don't know. 30:18 So we have to do a lot of investigation. 30:20 And we usually have designated areas 30:22 that we pick out and say, okay, 30:24 you're going to have to make it over here 30:25 to this landing zone or this landing strip 30:27 or wherever that we have 30:29 predetermined that it's safe enough to land. 30:30 Okay. 30:32 And so, that does take some investigation work. 30:34 So sometimes when we go into a country, 30:36 we're not able to go right to work 30:38 because we have to determine airstrips in places we can, 30:41 I mean, we can take off and land 30:42 because there's some areas you can land okay, 30:44 but there's not enough room to take off 30:46 because it takes more to take off. 30:47 So we have to investigate all of that. 30:49 So it is a challenge, but we do navigate that. 30:52 What happens in those situations? 30:54 Have you ever encountered 30:55 where maybe you have landed in one of those places? 30:58 Cut it a little bit too close? 31:00 Well, we really that's where the pre... 31:03 The answer is no, we haven't, and I hope we never, 31:05 a lot of, you know, a lot of kids ask me, 31:07 tell me a story? 31:08 I don't have one, and I don't want one. 31:11 I never want a bad aviation related story. 31:13 I just don't want, you know, I've been blessed 31:16 and privileged to be able to fly, 31:18 but I don't want to have 31:20 the blessing of having a horrible story. 31:21 I've had some, some close calls 31:23 where the Lord got my attention. 31:25 Okay, but we really do a lot of legwork. 31:29 And it's really important to move at the speed of safety. 31:33 It frustrates some in the ministry when you say, 31:36 well, yeah, we're going to come help you, 31:38 but it's going to take the right amount of time. 31:40 We'll get there when we can, 31:42 because we're not going to move 31:44 any faster than the speed of safety allows us to move, 31:45 because when you think about it, 31:49 you know, these souls are precious. 31:51 These are our workers, 31:52 and these souls are saving other souls. 31:55 And so, not that there's more value 31:57 in one area or the other, 31:58 but, you know, are you going to risk a life to save a life? 32:01 I mean, maybe, but not if we can help it. 32:04 Yeah. Not hazardly. 32:06 Yeah, that's right. Yeah. 32:08 So we carefully plan everything out. 32:10 Okay. Good to know. 32:12 Now, how do you determine where to go on a mission? 32:16 Like, how does, how do you, 32:18 or how are you made aware of the needs? 32:20 So we get, we get calls all the time, 32:22 and that becomes heartbreaking from my position as president, 32:27 because the calls are endless, 32:30 you know, on our board, 32:31 we've had it, you know, up there, it's still up there, 32:33 but, you know, that's our theme for this year, 32:35 pray the Lord of harvest. 32:37 You know, because we're in constant need 32:39 of support workers, constant need of... 32:44 Obviously donations, that's, a big thing. 32:48 You know, it, aviation is expensive, 32:51 but in the end of the day, it's priceless. 32:53 So, we can't do anything without funding, obviously. 32:56 Yeah. 32:57 So funding is a huge part of it, 32:59 but the other thing is human resourcing. 33:03 As I said earlier, we get a lot of calls all the time. 33:05 You don't know, is this an emergency call 33:06 you're wanting to serve 33:08 because you're, you know, you just got out of prison 33:10 or, I don't know, you know, we've had those too. 33:12 So I'm, you know, I'm going to get out of prison here 33:14 pretty soon, and I want to serve the Lord. 33:16 Okay, great. 33:17 And, you know, we've had some really good people 33:20 that have come out of those situations 33:22 and become good workers for the Lord, 33:24 but you just don't know what their situation is. 33:25 Do they mean what they say? 33:27 And are they truly called? 33:29 Is this a real calling or... Or is this just a job? 33:32 And a lot of them are doing that too 33:34 and we get those, so. 33:35 That's one of the indicators to us 33:37 when we know we have somebody 33:39 and it just, the Lord really answers that. 33:41 It's just like these guys 33:42 that was crystal clear in my mind 33:44 that the Lord was calling, these guys were serious. 33:47 And when I extended the call to them, 33:48 he left, I mean, a glorious career. 33:50 He could have stayed there and, you know, 33:52 and he's going to come and work for a ministry that may, 33:54 you know, the money is less, and you know, 33:56 and even the glory in many ways is less for him. 33:59 But he and his wife, and Rebecca is the same way. 34:03 So, you know, we're in, we're in this all the way, 34:04 you know, this, and so that, well, 34:06 that's, that was a true indicator. 34:07 Yes. 34:09 And so, those are the indications that we need. 34:11 So we need the financing. 34:12 If the financing is there, then we move. 34:14 And then we start looking for the human resourcing. 34:15 And if God provides both of those areas, then we move. 34:18 And then the final step is, as I said, 34:20 we work with the conference 34:22 and the GC at every level we can. 34:25 If a conference wants us to do something great, we'll do it. 34:27 If they don't want us to do it, 34:29 well, we're not, there's no argument. 34:30 We're not, you know, 34:32 we've never, they've never said no, 34:33 they always appreciate our help. 34:34 But we want to make sure that we're in harmony working 34:36 with other Christians in the area. 34:39 And so we base it on those, basically those three, 34:43 that three criteria. 34:44 Make sense. 34:45 Kyle, what's a typical day look like for you 34:48 with preventative maintenance and all of that? 34:51 Well, we... 34:52 He's been busy lately. I've been very busy. 34:55 We've got about 20. Yeah. I'm going to answer this quick. 34:57 I'll let him answer, but we've had about 27 aircraft floating 35:00 out there and they all needed something, you know. 35:02 And it's all been dumped on him and he's got all these, 35:06 you know, mechanics and volunteer workers 35:08 and they're working with him and for him and yeah. 35:12 But, yeah, you know, a typical day, 35:13 I mean, we have over probably it varies, 35:16 but we have about 27 aircraft, like you said. 35:19 Currently at, in North Carolina 35:22 where our base is, we have about eight aircrafts. 35:25 Okay. 35:26 You know, in various stages of disarray and maintenance, 35:29 but some of those aircraft are donated, believe it or not. 35:33 Actually a lot of our aircrafts 35:34 that we receive are donated to us... 35:36 That's a blessing. 35:38 Which is, it's a very good blessing. 35:39 We wouldn't operate without that. 35:40 Yeah. 35:42 But currently I've been doing a lot of maintenance 35:44 to one of our 180, Cessna 182, it's a name of the aircraft. 35:50 It's scheduled to go to Nicaragua. 35:53 So basically what I'm doing is going through the airplane, 35:57 making sure everything, you know is in order. 35:59 And before we, because before you want to send an aircraft 36:03 to a foreign country, 36:05 you want to make sure everything is working order, 36:08 because I mean, 36:09 if something breaks in Nicaragua, 36:11 then I have to go to Nicaragua to fix, 36:13 or I have to get somebody to fix it in Nicaragua. 36:17 So that's typical day, 36:19 I'm doing repairs 36:21 and making sure everything is in order on that plane. 36:24 We've got two other aircraft in the hangar right now. 36:28 They're getting avionics upgrade. 36:31 So it's instruments in aircraft we're doing, 36:33 there's a lot of the aviation... 36:40 started in the 60s, right? 36:43 Fifties and sixties, so a lot of the gauges, everything, 36:46 the calls, they're called steam gauges, right? 36:47 They're old school analog gauges. 36:49 Got you. 36:51 But they're coming out with electronic gauges now 36:53 that are a whole lot more reliable and easier to read 36:56 for, you know, they take the stress down 36:57 on the pilot because you don't, 36:59 instead of looking at six gauges on the scan, 37:01 you can see it all in one 37:03 right in front of you with the digital. 37:05 And so we're doing some upgrades as we can. 37:08 As financing allow. 37:10 Financing allow but... 37:11 And that's huge because that guaranteed safety 37:15 and that again the safety of our pilots and our crew 37:18 or ground crew and our patients, 37:20 that's the utmost importance because we are, 37:23 you know, we're delivering them a Christian message of hope. 37:26 And man, if you kill them, there's no hope... 37:29 Yeah. 37:30 Except for the hope that Jesus is going to come 37:32 and resurrect them one day. 37:33 That's true. And so... 37:35 Tell me about some miracle stories? 37:37 Well we've got one coming up here. 37:39 I wanted to mention real quick about our logo. 37:41 You'd asked about our logo earlier. 37:42 Yes. 37:44 And I wanted to mention that real quick and you can see it. 37:46 I don't know if they've got it on the screen or not, 37:47 but our logo is AWA 37:49 and they struggled with it in the beginning 37:51 when Bob Folkenberg was developing this, 37:53 and because it had a lot of name recognition AWA to AWR 37:56 and it's just like, okay, 37:58 well maybe they'll get those confused. 37:59 And honestly, people do, 38:00 but please distinguish us from AWA and AWR 38:03 because we are two different entities 38:04 and we're not the same, it's a different president. 38:06 And, but you know, 38:08 the arch of course is the world, 38:12 and then the three is the three angels. 38:14 So we're delivering the three angels' message 38:16 all throughout the world, 38:17 and that happens through medevacs. 38:20 And so, you know, I got, basically two stories 38:26 I want to share with you, and we've got a video 38:28 that's gonna, 38:29 I think that they've got ready, that they can play right now. 38:31 I don't know if we can share that video. 38:33 I'll set it up real quick. 38:34 The first part of the video, 38:37 you'll see an airplane taking off 38:39 and that's a Cessna 185. 38:40 Kyle just described a 182, this is 185. 38:43 Very similar aircraft, 38:44 they, if you were, you know, 38:45 just to look at it at first glance, 38:47 you'd never know the difference, 38:48 except for this one's on floats. 38:50 It has amphibious, it can land on water and on land, 38:53 of course, 38:54 this one's going up to Sioux Lookout 38:55 to serve our Ontario Conference up there to serve 38:58 our First Nations people up there, 39:00 which are the indigenous peoples of Canada. 39:02 Okay. 39:04 North America, in here in the United States, 39:06 North America, we call them, you know, Native Americans, 39:09 up there they're First Nations. 39:11 And so the local natives, 39:13 and, and so that plane is going up there to do 39:14 the suicide prevention. 39:16 Medevacs bringing in medical services, 39:18 food supplies, you name it. 39:19 It's now up there our Ontario Conference. 39:22 We have an episode coming up here 39:24 on one of these Mondays, 39:26 I don't know, our show is aired every Monday 39:28 on 3ABN at 1 o'clock. 39:29 And that's called Off the Grid. You may want to watch that. 39:31 We've got a series of fours that I just finished off now 39:34 and the presidential updates, and you'll see the full story. 39:37 And you'll see Elder Mansfield, 39:38 our conference president up there 39:40 doing a dedication service 39:41 to the airplane that's taking off. 39:43 And we've been working on this for years. 39:44 This is a, it might've been 39:46 a four or five-year project out, 39:48 and it's just praise the Lord, it's deployed. 39:49 Now, you'll see that in the beginning. 39:51 So it's up, they're going to start its work. 39:52 And then we saved 39:54 or participated in two life savings 39:57 work here in improving their life. 39:58 So we'll go ahead and queue up that video. 40:01 There's not any, a lot of words to it, 40:03 but you'll see here in just a second. 40:04 Wonderful. Let's take a look at that. 40:28 So, we are on our last leg of our journey, 40:31 now we're almost to Charlotte. 40:33 And we've been 40:36 talking to Elizabeth about little Walter, 40:37 and of course he's been doing chemo. 40:40 So do you understand the name of the chemo 40:44 that they are doing? 40:46 They are actually going to be working on this new trial 40:52 as soon as they do another cycle 40:57 of the current standard relapse chemo. 41:04 He's got one more of those. 41:06 Then he's going to do a reflector, 41:09 and I'm not sure of the actual physical name 41:13 they have for it but it's a vaccine 41:19 that they will be using and they mix it with chemo, 41:24 and then later on, as soon as that is successful, 41:30 he will be getting what they call MIBG therapy. 41:36 MIBG therapy is where they sedate them 41:40 and they get high doses of radiation. 41:47 We will continue to pray for him and we'll keep up, 41:50 stay up with you and find out how things are progressing. 41:54 Okay. 41:56 Well, we're here at the destination, 41:57 final destination. 41:58 We have flown all the way from Milwaukee, 42:01 Wisconsin to Charlotte, North Carolina. 42:03 We stopped in Madison, Indiana. 42:06 I had a nice little stop along the way there, 42:09 and we're at the final destination here 42:12 at the Inn and Suites 42:14 where she will make this extended stay 42:17 for a while until they find housing 42:19 for little Walter. 42:20 We're going to have prayer with them now 42:22 and send them on their way. 42:24 So I have, of course, Kyle Stevenson here. 42:26 He was my flight engineer on the way up. 42:29 Anyway we are finally here 42:32 with Walter and Elizabeth, 42:36 and Kyle, you know, we're proud to serve them. 42:40 So we're going to pray for them right now. 42:42 Yeah, he's happy, he's here. 42:45 So he's happy to be with his grandma. 42:47 So we're going to pray for them and let's pray together. 42:50 Father in heaven, I just pray that You'll bless 42:53 Walter and bless Elizabeth and bless Destiny and Barb, 42:58 and this whole family. 42:59 And may you heal little Walter. 43:01 Father, we know that You're the father 43:03 of healing of all things. 43:05 And, we know that all as You said to do was just ask 43:09 and believe in Your name, and it will be done 43:13 if we just have the faith of a grain of mustard seed. 43:15 So, Father, we all spiritually 43:18 lay our hands on this little fellow. 43:20 We pray that You'll heal him, make him strong. 43:24 Thank you for doing it. We love you. 43:27 Make all the cancer go away in Jesus' name. 43:30 Amen. 43:35 Wow. 43:36 Little Walter, Rebecca, how's he doing now? 43:40 He is doing absolutely amazing 43:42 because he was able to come down 43:44 and get the treatment that he needed in Charlotte. 43:47 He has made extraordinary improvements. 43:50 I don't even think they were anticipating. 43:51 God hears our prayers and He answers. 43:54 So Walter is doing better, but keep praying for him 43:57 and his family as they're getting 43:58 closer to God through this whole experience. 44:00 Yes. 44:02 It was a real blessing to do that journey. 44:03 Kyle was my... 44:05 I was so happy. 44:07 I told you earlier in the green room there, 44:09 we were talking about that trip up there. 44:11 The weather was not pretty going up to get Walter. 44:14 We almost didn't take the trip 44:17 and, you know, Kyle's a pilot as well. 44:20 And, of course, with maintenance, 44:21 I could use him as 44:23 a flight engineer as I flew up there. 44:24 So he could, I knew we were going to be 44:25 in inclement weather all the way. 44:27 In fact it was about half the journey, 44:29 about two hours of, of total IMC, 44:31 where just nothing out the window, 44:32 but raining milk. 44:34 You know, that's what it looks like. 44:35 It just looks like somebody sprayed your windshield 44:36 with milk. 44:38 You can't see a thing out there. 44:39 And so, I was comfortable flying out of there 44:41 and we had 700 foot ceilings, 44:43 but we probably wouldn't have normally taken that journey 44:46 had not been for, for little Walter. 44:48 And so, Kyle went up there 44:49 and Kyle was the photographer on most of the shots 44:53 that you saw there. 44:54 And I think he shot the video through as well, 44:56 but yeah, it was such a blessing. 44:59 You know, to have Kyle along with me on 45:01 that gave me good peace of mind that, hey, I can fly the plane. 45:04 He can take care 45:06 of the engineering of the aircraft, 45:07 making sure that all things are well and it worked out well 45:09 because we had some new instruments 45:10 on there that one of them was flickering in and out. 45:13 And he's tapping on gauges and twisting 45:15 and, you know, doing the stuff that engine... 45:17 Flight engineers do and making sure 45:18 that everything was well, 45:20 and we had a great trip up there. 45:21 And, of course, when we flew the patient back, 45:23 we made sure we had great weather. 45:24 And so little Walter is, yeah, he's doing well. 45:28 And it turns out little Walter was a, he's Native American. 45:31 We didn't know. 45:32 I mean, when we asked, we don't care. 45:34 I don't even, you know, we don't ask 45:36 what brand you are, it doesn't matter. 45:38 You're human life created by God. 45:39 And so, but little Walter is a Chippewa. 45:43 And we introduced that family now, 45:47 Elizabeth, his grandmother was in the video there 45:49 to our Native American ministry coordinator in the Carolinas. 45:54 And they are currently studying right now 45:56 and she's starting to attend a church. 45:59 You know, she had been raised differently, 46:01 you know, not as an Adventist Christian, 46:03 but she'd been raised differently 46:04 and her family are now starting to study with us 46:07 and they are so grateful that we are participant. 46:10 And then also we, the second part of the flight 46:14 was with Chris my neighbor who lost her stepmother. 46:19 And we flew her dad back to live with her. 46:23 And that just touched her heart. 46:24 And now she's in studies with us as well. 46:27 So we're studying about the Sabbath right now. 46:28 She had questions. 46:29 So I had her read Genesis Chapter 1 and Chapter 2, 46:32 and she's learning of course about the Sabbath 46:33 and the God of creation. 46:35 And, you know, she asked me about the, 46:37 you know, well, it doesn't seem to me that that was right, 46:40 that serpent did that. 46:41 How did that all start? 46:43 And so now we've been studying the origin of evil 46:45 and she's just so in tuned to that, 46:46 and just, it just all makes sense to her 46:48 and the Sabbath is making sense to her 46:50 and the whole thing. 46:52 And so Christianity just is, is boiling over in their lives 46:55 because of the opportunity of saving their life, yeah. 46:58 This is practical Christianity. It is. Yeah. 47:00 Yes, and it's really like Christ method. 47:03 Yeah. Yeah, so powerful. 47:04 You just open the door, that's all it requires. 47:06 And so, we have been blessed over the years. 47:10 We survive by donors. 47:13 Just recently this year, it's been a busy year, 47:15 of course, on the next couple of episodes on 3ABN and on Off 47:19 The Grid at 1 o'clock on Mondays you will start, 47:22 you'll see what we've been challenged 47:24 with through this year of COVID. 47:26 And in spite of all of that, 47:29 our donors have been very gracious. 47:30 Before COVID broke out, 47:32 we were able to pick up two airplanes 47:34 and I've got a couple of pictures, 47:35 one I'm shaking a man's hand. 47:37 And you'll see on there. 47:39 That's Michael Hamlin, 47:43 and Michael is just a wonderful servant of God. 47:47 He's a, I think he's a Baptist 47:48 and a Christian and loves the Lord 47:51 and he wanted to donate his plane. 47:55 And, so, 47:58 you know, he dedicated, that's one of the planes 48:01 that Kyle's going to be fixing up. 48:03 We're not sure where we're going to put that, 48:04 or if we're going to put that into service or sell it 48:07 to help augment what we do, 48:09 but the graciousness of those donations 48:12 have made it happen. 48:14 And then the other one was, 48:15 his name is Bill Day, William Day. 48:17 And he's a member of our Birmingham, Alabama. 48:21 I think it's Birmingham. 48:22 Yeah, Birmingham, Alabama Church, a good... 48:24 Yeah, there's Bill right there. 48:26 And he just donated his Cherokee 180 48:30 and you know, so these, these things happen. 48:33 And so with those donations, 48:35 we're able to take these kinds of flights, 48:36 were able to get this kind of stuff done, 48:38 and people think, well, 48:39 you know, my little donation isn't going to mean it. 48:42 And, you know, 'cause I'm, well, 48:43 I can only afford $20 a month or $50 a month, but that's... 48:46 It adds up. Yeah, that adds up. 48:49 You know, that flight that we took little Walter on, 48:52 you know, I think we figured it costs us about 365 bucks 48:55 from point A to point B, you know, one way it was, 48:57 you know, 700 to 800 bucks round trip, 48:59 but, you know, to save, you know, well, 49:02 I shouldn't say we saved his life, 49:03 but we, we've quality improved his life. 49:05 He's getting treatment now 49:07 that hopefully will save his life 49:08 and I believe God will save his life. 49:10 And so, for $365, 49:13 we were able to make that flight 49:15 and take that and improve his life. 49:16 And what's the reward... 49:18 That's priceless. Yeah, it is. 49:20 It's absolutely priceless. 49:22 It's eternal investment. 49:23 Oh, absolutely. 49:25 I want to recap over the needs of your organization 49:28 because our time is escaping us. 49:30 So I want to recap over the needs. 49:33 What do you need as an organization? 49:35 So, the first thing we need is, is workers, 49:38 so pray the Lord of harvest. 49:40 The last, this last year has been very challenging 49:42 because of the COVID-19 obviously. 49:45 Some of our countries have been on total lockdown 49:48 while others have, we've been able to work in, 49:51 but we're limited, 49:52 we're locked down inside the country. 49:54 So we've had, you know, some cases, 49:55 I haven't been able to get Kyle to get our planes up 49:59 and running in Guyana, 50:00 but I can't get my missionaries there either. 50:01 It just now opened. 50:03 So we're going to be sending some missionaries back there. 50:05 Nicaragua, we've got a pilot 50:07 and his family ready to go and be deployed, 50:10 but, you know, the walls are up. 50:12 We're waiting for them to be deployed. 50:14 And, of course, we need money for deployment 50:15 to get them there as well. 50:17 Because again, 50:18 like everybody else during this time 50:19 if, you know, this year, we've, our finances 50:22 have come down way down and we need that help. 50:27 But the Lord of harvest will provide that. 50:29 So missionary resources 50:32 and finances to make that happen, 50:34 so we can get into, back into the field 50:35 and get these things open and operating, 50:38 you know, at 100% again. 50:39 And so, we're doing it the best we can right now. 50:42 And we're saving lives still right now. 50:44 We're doing a lot of ground transportation 50:45 right now in areas that we can't fly anymore, but... 50:48 Yes, and aviation is not an area 50:51 where you necessarily want to cut corners either, so. 50:53 No. No. 50:54 Yeah, you don't want to play with that. 50:56 Now, do you have to be a pilot to... 50:58 You do not. 50:59 Now that's a good question 51:01 that you do not need to be a pilot to be 51:02 a worker or a member of Adventist World Aviation. 51:06 We have a variety of different ground crew. 51:09 We've hired some pastors in local areas 51:12 that are working on boots on the ground, 51:14 doing ministry locally with the indigenous people 51:17 that we've either flown or, 51:19 you know, to have a little different professional level 51:21 working with them or medical professionals. 51:25 We've had medical professionals work with us in the field. 51:27 Whatever your talents are, you know, 51:30 the Lord can use you somewhere in the field. 51:31 It's about willingness to be deployed. 51:34 Absolutely, 51:35 and that willingness God will use, 51:37 and He's prepared each and every one of you 51:39 for this position. 51:41 We're going to go to your address roll 51:42 real quick, and then to a short news break, 51:44 and we'll be right back 51:47 For more information about Adventist World Aviation, 51:50 please contact them at their website, flyAWA.org. 51:55 That's flyAWA.org. 51:58 Their email address is info@FlyAWA.org. 52:02 That's info@FlyAWA.org. 52:06 Their telephone number is (919) 938-2920. 52:11 That's (919) 938-2920. 52:16 And their mailing address is 3457, 52:19 Swift Creek Road, Corp 3, 52:22 Smithfield, North Carolina 27577. |
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