3ABN Today

Straying from the Lord and the Trip Back!

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00:01 I want to spend my life
00:07 Mending broken people
00:12 I want to spend my life
00:18 Removing pain
00:23 Lord, let my words
00:30 Heal a heart that hurts
00:34 I want to spend my life
00:40 Mending broken people
00:45 I want to spend my life
00:51 Mending broken people
01:09 Hello and welcome to another 3ABN Today program.
01:12 I'm Jason Bradley,
01:13 and I am so excited to talk to the guests
01:16 that we have here today
01:18 because they have such a powerful, powerful testimony,
01:21 and they are on fire for the Lord.
01:23 So without further ado,
01:25 why don't I just go ahead and introduce you guys?
01:27 We have Pastor Garhett Morgan of the Michigan Conference
01:30 of Seventh-day Adventists,
01:32 and we have his lovely wife Dakota Morgan.
01:35 And you are at Strong Tower Radio
01:37 and you are a social media consultant.
01:39 Yeah.
01:40 Nice. Yes, sir.
01:42 Nice. Blessing to be here.
01:43 It's a blessing to have you here.
01:45 Yeah. Amen.
01:46 So, you know, I had a chance to talk to you
01:48 a little bit before,
01:50 you know, even it came on the set.
01:52 And I was just impressed with your journey.
01:55 Okay.
01:56 And so I want to bring that...
01:58 But I want to start with how you were raised.
02:00 Sure.
02:01 Where were you born?
02:02 Were you raised Adventists?
02:04 Yeah.
02:05 It's funny, you know, my wife and I,
02:07 we grew up probably, what, 15 minutes from each other?
02:08 Yeah, just about.
02:10 And so I was raised very, I guess you could say,
02:13 orthodox Seventh-day Adventist, if you want to say that.
02:17 I was actually homeschooled from a very early age.
02:20 My mom did a wonderful job of doing that.
02:22 I've got five siblings who are younger than I am.
02:24 Wow.
02:25 And so they're still in that process.
02:28 But a big part of our curriculum was,
02:30 you know, the 28 Fundamental Beliefs
02:32 that Seventh-day Adventists have.
02:33 Oh, really?
02:34 Yeah. Okay.
02:36 And, you know, I always loved going to Church,
02:37 my favorite day was Sabbath, you know, Sabbath school was...
02:40 The Church was an all-day event.
02:42 And evangelism was exciting to me.
02:45 And so by the time I was like 15,
02:48 I could probably break down the 2,300-day prophecy,
02:51 and things like this like it just excited me.
02:52 At 15?
02:54 Oh, yeah.
02:55 How old are you now?
02:56 I'm 23. Twenty-three, okay.
02:58 We'll get back to that in a moment.
02:59 Okay. All right.
03:01 Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Amen. Amen.
03:02 So by the time you were 15,
03:03 you could break down the whole 2,300 day prophecy.
03:05 Yeah.
03:07 What was it like being homeschooled?
03:09 You know, it was good.
03:10 You know, a lot of people say
03:11 that homeschooling is a disadvantage
03:13 because you're not around other kids,
03:15 socializing and all that stuff.
03:17 But that wasn't the case,
03:19 we had other homeschoolers in the area,
03:21 her cousins and some other people
03:22 that we were able to socialize with.
03:24 But it really helps you talk like an adult
03:27 because obviously you only talk to is adults.
03:29 So that was nice.
03:31 Wow.
03:32 But anyway, it was great being raised like that.
03:35 But I was definitely missing something,
03:39 and this wasn't any fault of my parents.
03:42 This is on me, but,
03:44 you know, I knew all this head knowledge,
03:46 but when it came down to a relationship with Christ,
03:49 it really wasn't there.
03:51 Mm-hm. Yeah.
03:53 I want to unpack that in a minute.
03:54 Okay.
03:56 You just said that you knew her cousins and stuff
03:59 when you were younger, so.
04:00 Yeah.
04:02 Dakota, when did you guys meet?
04:04 So we met at our homeschool group
04:06 when we were probably...
04:08 I was probably 9, he was probably about 10.
04:11 Okay.
04:12 He was the loudest boy I had ever met.
04:14 She didn't like me.
04:16 I was just...
04:18 I was like, "Who is this kid? Like he is wild."
04:23 So we kind of got off to a rocky start initially.
04:27 He was best friends with my cousins,
04:28 and they all ran around like wild kids.
04:31 But yeah, that's kind of how we met
04:33 was in our homeschool group,
04:35 and then kind of grew up around each other, so...
04:38 So were you raised Adventist?
04:40 Yeah, I was...
04:41 We grew up going to church and stuff,
04:44 but our church life
04:46 and our home life was a little bit different.
04:48 As an older kid, my dad made some choices
04:51 that led to some physis and bad habits
04:54 that kind of affected our home life a little bit.
04:59 And so growing up,
05:02 I knew I was right,
05:03 but I did see a little bit of a difference
05:05 between my home life and church life.
05:07 And so that was kind of something
05:09 that I had to reconcile for myself.
05:11 Okay.
05:12 And I love my parents,
05:14 and my parents are both pursuing,
05:15 you know, amazing relationships with God right now.
05:17 But that was definitely something that
05:19 had a part in my growing up.
05:21 Got you. Yeah.
05:22 So it's like a lack of consistency.
05:23 Yeah, a little bit.
05:25 Okay.
05:26 But, you know, through that,
05:28 I had a pretty great childhood.
05:30 I never had a lot that I had to go through,
05:33 and because of that,
05:34 I don't think I had to rely upon Jesus as much.
05:37 She had some more struggles.
05:38 Yeah.
05:40 And so when we met,
05:41 she couldn't necessarily break down Daniel's Sabbath.
05:44 No, not at all.
05:45 But her relationship with Jesus was out of this world.
05:49 Yeah.
05:50 So anyway, different strengths.
05:51 Yeah.
05:53 And we still have that today.
05:54 And you guys are complementing each other very well.
05:56 Well, praise the Lord for that, but 80% her and...
05:59 And on top of that, the fact that she didn't like you
06:02 when you were like nine years old
06:04 and now you're married,
06:05 that means there's hope.
06:08 Amen. Amen.
06:09 There's hope for those out there.
06:10 That's right. Absolutely.
06:12 Well, before we get further into your testimony,
06:15 we have a song by Pastor John Lomacang
06:18 called "I will go."
06:20 Amen. Let's take a look at that now.
06:50 Give me ears to hear Your spirit
06:56 Give me feet to follow through
07:01 Give me hands to touch the hurting
07:07 And the faith to follow You
07:17 Give me grace to be a servant
07:23 Give me mercy for the lost
07:29 Give me passion for your glory
07:34 Give me passion for the cross
07:41 And I will go where there are no easy roads
07:47 Leave the comforts that I know
07:52 I will go and let this journey be my home
07:59 I will go
08:21 I'll let go of my ambition
08:27 Cut the roots that run so deep
08:32 I will learn to give away
08:38 What I cannot really keep
08:51 Help me see
08:55 With eyes of faith
08:59 Give me strength
09:03 To run this race
09:06 And I will go where there are no easy roads
09:13 Leave the comfort that I know
09:19 I will go and let this journey be my home
09:25 I will go
09:32 I will go where, Lord, Your glory is unknown
09:38 I will live for You alone
09:44 I will go because my life is not my own
09:51 I will go
10:04 I will go
10:21 Wow, what a beautiful song and a beautiful message.
10:24 Amen.
10:25 You know, we talked about your growing up.
10:29 I want a transition now into when you left the church.
10:34 Yeah, that's an interesting phrase
10:37 'cause I never missed a Sabbath.
10:41 But I was out of the church.
10:43 Unpack that. You know what I mean?
10:44 Like so when we both turned 16 in Washington state
10:48 where we grew up,
10:50 there's a program where you can do
10:51 dual enrollment
10:53 so you could actually skip junior and senior
10:54 of high school and go to college.
10:55 Right. Wow.
10:57 And so we both did that.
10:58 And so going from,
10:59 you could say, where sheltered environment
11:02 to a public university campus is a big difference.
11:06 Yeah.
11:07 And, you know, at 16, I was a pretty arrogant...
11:11 Okay.
11:12 Type of a guy because of my knowledge
11:13 and no relationship with Jesus.
11:15 And so I went into that school thinking,
11:17 "I'm going to convert this place.
11:18 I'm a modern day Daniel," type of a thing, you know?
11:22 But it had the opposite effect.
11:25 You know, I love people,
11:26 I love to talk and communicate with people.
11:28 And in doing so,
11:30 I started to allow little compromises in my life,
11:35 and ever so slowly,
11:36 those little compromises blew up into bigger things.
11:40 And yeah,
11:43 but praise the Lord for Jesus.
11:44 But, you know, some of those things
11:46 that I fell into weren't necessarily,
11:49 you know, what people would think like
11:50 are big, terrible sins,
11:52 but the music that I started listening to changed
11:55 slowly over time,
11:57 the things I started watching slowly started to change.
12:00 And then at the same time,
12:02 I was working construction too as an electrician.
12:04 And that can often be a pretty rough and rowdy crowd.
12:06 Yes.
12:08 And so language started to change a little bit,
12:11 but, you know, when Friday night came,
12:15 I went home and everything was good.
12:17 On Sabbath morning,
12:18 I tied my tie and put on my suit,
12:20 you know, shook hands and even preached now and then,
12:23 but that was a double life.
12:24 Yeah.
12:26 And that's not fun to live.
12:28 The Bible says,
12:30 you know, "by beholding, we become changed
12:31 and double-minded man is unstable in all his ways."
12:35 Right.
12:36 So you left and you went through this...
12:40 You were in church, but you weren't really there
12:44 and you weren't connected spiritually,
12:46 so that double life.
12:49 And when you were like hanging out
12:52 with your co-workers...
12:54 Yeah.
12:55 It's interesting because it goes
12:58 or it points to the fact that,
13:00 you know, we all exert and influence...
13:01 Absolutely.
13:03 Over somebody, whether we realize it or not.
13:04 Yeah. Absolutely.
13:06 And so they had
13:07 a little influence on your life,
13:10 but it was in a negative direction.
13:13 Absolutely.
13:14 And, you know, sometimes I see,
13:16 you know, young people like we are
13:18 that want to find a spouse outside of the church
13:21 and they think that they can influence them,
13:23 and that happens sometimes.
13:24 But that's very rare.
13:26 You know, most of the time,
13:27 the influence goes the opposite direction
13:29 of where you want it to.
13:31 But I remember one day, I went to work,
13:33 and there was someone there I was really struggling with
13:37 because he had done something to one of my family members
13:39 in the past.
13:41 And he said something that went over the line,
13:44 and it got physical pretty quickly.
13:48 And I remember,
13:50 you know, we don't need to go into details with that.
13:54 But remember I quit for that day,
13:56 and I went home,
13:58 and I turned on my radio in my truck there,
14:02 and the words to the song literally said,
14:05 "You are on the wrong side of heaven
14:06 and the righteous side of the hell."
14:08 Wow.
14:09 And when I heard those lyrics, I thought...
14:11 And I heard that song lots of times before
14:13 and I thought,
14:14 "No, Garhett, what have you become?"
14:15 And I went home and I opened my Bible,
14:18 and I went to a verse, Ecclesiastes 12,
14:21 it said, "Fear God, and keep His commandments
14:23 for this is the whole duty of man."
14:26 And I realized that
14:30 what a man looks like in the world
14:32 and what a man of God looks like
14:33 are vastly different.
14:35 Amen.
14:36 Yeah. Amen.
14:37 It's interesting because God spoke directly
14:40 to you through that song and through His Word.
14:43 Right.
14:45 You know, because the situation that you were in
14:48 like that message was for you.
14:50 It was. Yes.
14:52 That's amazing.
14:53 Dakota, what about you?
14:55 Have you ever...
14:56 Did you leave the Church?
14:58 It's kind of little similar to you.
14:59 I didn't necessarily leave the church.
15:01 I was still going to church regularly.
15:04 But later in my, you know, mid-teen years, I started to...
15:09 You know, I was frustrated with the inconsistency that,
15:12 you know, I felt like I was seeing at home
15:14 and in my own life.
15:16 And so I started to, you know, make choices,
15:20 you know, those compromises,
15:21 those creeping compromises down,
15:23 a path that I knew I shouldn't have been on
15:26 and I was dating guys that weren't of our same faith
15:29 and that kind of,
15:31 you know, pulls you in a different direction too.
15:33 And so we were both
15:34 kind of being pulled away from God
15:36 at the same time,
15:37 and, you know, our friendship kind of struggled
15:40 in those times because we know that,
15:42 you know, when we're both...
15:44 And we didn't talk anymore.
15:45 No, we didn't talk hardly at all for those years
15:48 just because we both knew that we were doing things
15:50 that were wrong
15:52 and, you know, that accountability
15:54 wasn't there then,
15:55 and so it definitely was,
15:59 you know, a hard time for both of us in our lives.
16:01 But the Lord brought us back miraculously
16:06 because, you know, later in our teen years,
16:09 probably 18, 19...
16:12 Well, you can go with that story.
16:14 Yeah.
16:15 It just really goes to show that
16:17 you might have young people in your church,
16:18 but you don't know what's going on
16:20 in their lives, really.
16:21 That's true.
16:22 And, you know, I had good friends
16:24 that were older at church,
16:25 and I got a lot of pats on the back for my knowledge.
16:29 But I remember a gentleman on one Sabbath asked me
16:31 how my devotional life was.
16:33 Whoa.
16:35 And I couldn't answer. Yeah.
16:36 Yeah. So I made something up.
16:38 But, you know, ask your young people that,
16:41 and if they don't know, please help them along
16:44 because the best testimony ever
16:46 is someone that never left the church.
16:48 Yes. But the testimony is there.
16:49 Yes.
16:50 That's powerful.
16:52 It's interesting too
16:53 how sin has a gradual progression.
16:55 Like he didn't just go from,
16:56 "Okay, now the 2,300 day prophecy to...
16:59 Okay, now I'm just out, you know..."
17:01 Completely.
17:03 But it was a gradual progression,
17:05 and I love Dakota
17:06 how you used creeping compromise.
17:08 Yeah.
17:09 Like it was...
17:11 It just kind of slid in there,
17:12 and that's how the devil operates.
17:13 Yeah.
17:15 So you didn't leave, but you had the double life.
17:18 And then when did you...
17:20 What was it that helped you to realize
17:22 that you needed to come back 100% besides the...
17:26 So it was the music in the truck?
17:28 Yeah, you know, and that song that I mentioned
17:30 was definitely not Christian.
17:32 No. Okay. Okay.
17:33 I've gone into some pretty heavy like metal
17:36 and heavy rock type things
17:39 and because of that and some of the things
17:41 I was doing in my life,
17:42 you know, I was training to do some other things
17:44 and I started to form of very quick temper.
17:46 Okay.
17:48 And that's something...
17:49 And I never had a temper before.
17:51 I was drinking
17:52 probably four, five Monster energy drinks a day,
17:55 just living a very angry life,
17:58 and she still helps me with that today.
18:01 But yeah,
18:03 so once I got into that incident at work
18:05 and I read that Bible scripture,
18:08 it was like someone pulled the wall over my eyes
18:09 and said, "Look, this is where you were.
18:11 This is where you are now."
18:13 And so a few weeks later, I quit my job.
18:16 I graduated
18:17 and I flew to Australia of all places.
18:19 Wow.
18:20 You went to Australia?
18:22 I went to Australia.
18:23 I didn't just got to hang out on the beach.
18:25 Okay.
18:26 Although the beaches in Australia are wonderful.
18:27 I believe it.
18:29 But down in Australia, they have ARISE
18:30 with David Asscherick and James Rafferty
18:32 and Ty and all of them.
18:34 And so I decided,
18:36 "Hey, I need to get back to where I was."
18:40 And I loved evangelism, so this was a perfect fit.
18:43 Now explain...
18:44 So talk about ARISE a little bit.
18:45 Yeah.
18:47 I mean, what types of things did you learn?
18:48 What is ARISE for people that don't know?
18:51 ARISE is...
18:52 When I went into ARISE,
18:54 I thought it was a Bible working school,
18:55 basically teaches you how to give Bible studies
18:57 and work in your local church,
18:59 possibly be hired later on by a church to do,
19:01 you know, evangelism and things of that nature.
19:04 You know, when they take you
19:05 through the 28 Fundamental Beliefs,
19:07 and most of that was familiar to me.
19:09 I learnt some things, you know, book of Romans,
19:11 we went through that, that was a blessing.
19:13 But with ARISE, they go through a story.
19:16 They start with Genesis, and they work through the Bible
19:18 in a relational type of the way.
19:20 And that's something that I had never really focused on before.
19:25 And, you know, I got really...
19:29 I don't have favorites,
19:30 but my favorite was James Rafferty.
19:32 I love Pastor Rafferty.
19:35 And we had some really good talks
19:37 about relationship there.
19:40 And that's...
19:41 I can honestly say
19:43 the first time I fell in love with Jesus
19:45 was at ARISE.
19:47 I learned how to keep that relationship going.
19:51 So yeah, the Fundamental Beliefs,
19:52 learning those things were wonderful.
19:54 But the thing that I was lacking
19:56 is what I was provided, that relationship.
19:58 Yeah.
19:59 It might be different for some people,
20:01 maybe over the relationship,
20:02 but you don't know the doctrine.
20:03 Yeah.
20:05 I don't know. Yeah.
20:06 And why do you say
20:08 that the relationship is so crucial,
20:10 like such an important thing?
20:11 Yeah.
20:13 You know, Billy...
20:14 I think it was Billy Sunday,
20:15 he said, and I'm paraphrasing.
20:18 But he said something along the lines of,
20:20 if you have...
20:21 If you're religious, but you have not Christ,
20:24 you have a leaky gospel.
20:27 And that's a miserable gospel.
20:29 So knowing all these things doctrinally
20:33 without a relationship with Jesus is just a shell.
20:36 In reality,
20:37 that's a perfect setup for being, I'm legalistic.
20:40 You're doing something
20:42 because that's just what you've always done
20:43 and you're working your way there.
20:45 Yes. You have no reason why.
20:47 You know, I knew,
20:48 "If you love Me, keep My commandments."
20:50 Like that's a key text. I knew it.
20:52 But I never understood what that really meant.
20:54 Yeah.
20:55 I never felt the need to.
20:57 Yeah.
20:58 Well, I mean, now you're married
20:59 so now that you guys have wedding vows
21:01 and all of that stuff.
21:02 I tend to look at the commandments
21:04 like wedding vows.
21:05 Exactly.
21:06 I love the Lord, I don't want to hurt Him.
21:08 Just like you love Dakota, you don't wanna hurt her.
21:10 Exactly.
21:12 And you keep those wedding vows out of love.
21:14 Amen. Yeah.
21:16 But when I was in Australia,
21:17 I started talking with her again,
21:19 you know, just sending her a text every now and then.
21:22 I was waiting for the reconnect.
21:25 And I wasn't really interested
21:27 in other than a friendship at that point.
21:29 He was more encouraging, yeah.
21:31 Yeah. Nice.
21:33 Because I knew where she was at.
21:34 Yeah.
21:35 And yet at the same time,
21:37 if I did want a relationship
21:38 but I don't want to risk that friendship
21:40 by taking it to that next level.
21:42 So I kind of waited on that.
21:44 But yeah, I was at ARISE in Australia,
21:46 for about four months.
21:47 Okay.
21:48 It changed my life.
21:50 Wow, that is awesome.
21:51 Now, Dakota, where did you transition like,
21:54 when did you come back?
21:55 Right. Yeah, yeah.
21:57 A lot of people like Garhett will say
21:59 that there's a specific moment where you were like,
22:02 oh, I need to get back to the Lord.
22:03 And, you know, that veil is pulled back
22:05 over your eyes or whatever.
22:06 I didn't necessarily have that.
22:08 It was just as much of a progression
22:11 back into the Lord,
22:13 as it was to fall out, if that makes sense.
22:17 And so there were different instances in my life,
22:19 different hard times that I had,
22:21 a lot of them my own doing.
22:23 That kind of brought me back to in need of Him,
22:26 and a need of relying on Him because I knew
22:28 that trying to control my own life wasn't working.
22:32 And so that's where,
22:33 you know, when Garhett was in ARISE,
22:34 I was starting to come back to that realization
22:37 and starting to come back to the fact that,
22:39 you know, I was trying to do life my way
22:41 and it wasn't working out.
22:42 And so starting to get back into that relationship
22:46 kind of happened over the time you were at ARISE,
22:49 and a little bit after that I would say, so yeah.
22:52 I love that you brought that up,
22:53 you're trying to do things your way,
22:55 you know, you thought you had control over your life.
22:57 Right.
22:59 You know a lot of times, you see people
23:01 that are self-reliant or they rely,
23:04 you know, they just think that,
23:05 that it's very self-oriented.
23:09 But really, we got to recognize that we're powerless.
23:12 That's right. Exactly.
23:13 You know, we can do nothing without Christ.
23:15 That's right. So that's awesome.
23:18 And so you mentor, you kind of like,
23:21 started sharing what you were learning?
23:23 Yeah, I mean, even when I wasn't.
23:26 When I wasn't even technically really in the church
23:28 and I was falling away,
23:29 I would still share with people what we believed.
23:33 So I always love to share these things with people.
23:36 And so ARISE gave me the tools to do that better.
23:40 So when I left ARISE, I thought, "Man,
23:42 I've got to do this for a while just to make sure
23:45 that I'm grounded and all these things."
23:47 So I got that job actually in Michigan,
23:49 where I am now at Grand Rapids.
23:51 I work with Youth for Jesus and ASI for a while.
23:54 You're familiar with that?
23:55 Yeah, I met my girlfriend at the Grand Rapids.
23:58 So that's an important year for you.
23:59 Absolutely.
24:02 Amen. Yeah.
24:03 And so that was only for a few months though.
24:05 And then I got a call to a Bible work
24:08 for a year in Alabama.
24:09 Okay, nice.
24:10 Tell me about Alabama
24:12 because I think there's some amazing stories
24:15 that came out of there.
24:16 Yeah, I love to talk about Alabama.
24:18 It's a...
24:20 First of all, the people in Alabama were just,
24:21 you know, just salt of the earth.
24:23 I loved it there.
24:25 I worked at a church there
24:26 called the Skyland Seventh-day Adventist Church in Tuscaloosa.
24:29 Okay.
24:31 And small church, about 20 people.
24:33 And there was really no young people to mention,
24:37 except for a few.
24:39 But, man,
24:41 so many stories especially that year,
24:43 for instance, this is my favorite.
24:46 We got a card in the mail,
24:48 Bible study Request Card,
24:50 from It Is Written or something like that
24:51 or Amazing Facts.
24:53 And I love it when people mailing those cards
24:55 because they took the effort
24:57 to reach out to learn about God.
25:00 And so, you know that's a good lead.
25:01 Yes.
25:03 Don't just let those sit on your desk.
25:04 Go and follow up quick, strike while the iron is hot.
25:08 And so I looked it up in my GPS,
25:10 and it was like 45 minutes out of town.
25:12 And I was like, "Man, I really don't want to go that far."
25:16 Yeah. But I did.
25:18 So I got my car and drove out.
25:22 The highway turned into, like, you know, county road.
25:26 And the county road turned into like a dirt road.
25:29 Then the dirt road turned into like a red clay like...
25:32 Wow.
25:33 Alabama's known for that red clay.
25:35 Yeah.
25:36 And then it turned like to a deer trail.
25:37 I was like, "Lord, I have no idea
25:39 where I'm going."
25:40 Finally I found the place,
25:42 and it looked like just an abandoned trailer.
25:46 So I went and I knocked on it, no answer.
25:48 And I was a little mad at God.
25:50 I was like, "Lord,
25:51 you bring me out here 50 minutes now,
25:55 and I've got to drive 50 minutes back.
25:57 What a waste of time and gas?" Yeah.
25:59 You know, and so...
26:02 But the Lord knew
26:03 and so, I started going back to my car,
26:06 and you could hear hound dogs in the distance.
26:09 And I thought, "That's interesting."
26:11 And then they came, and they surrounded my car,
26:13 like there were hound dogs everywhere,
26:14 and I thought, "Okay."
26:16 And then, I tell you,
26:18 out of the woods there in Alabama came this,
26:22 like, 6'4" giant of a man.
26:25 Wow.
26:26 And I'm good friends with him.
26:28 Did he have a shotgun in his hand?
26:30 He did. I figured that.
26:31 He did. How did you know?
26:35 No, he had a shotgun, a cowboy hat on,
26:37 and cowboy boots.
26:38 And I thought, "Okay.
26:41 It's going down."
26:43 And he was pretty upset.
26:45 What do you stranger doing on my property?
26:46 He said, "What are you doing?"
26:48 And I said, "You know, well, sir, my name is Garhett.
26:52 There was a lady here that asked for Bible studies."
26:54 And turns out he said,
26:56 "Well, this is my rental property.
26:57 That lady just moved out, she no longer lives here."
27:00 And I thought, well, okay, my fault, I'll leave.
27:05 And then he said something interesting,
27:06 he goes, "You give Bible studies?"
27:08 And I said, "Yeah."
27:10 And he said, "Get in my pickup truck with me."
27:14 Now, I'm thinking, okay, let's do it.
27:20 So I did.
27:21 I got in his truck
27:23 and he drove me deeper into the woods,
27:24 I have no idea where I am now.
27:26 Wow. And I was praying.
27:27 I'm like, "Lord, this could be a very bad situation."
27:30 It could be. It could be.
27:31 I'm glad both of you came out of the woods.
27:34 Brother, praise the Lord for that.
27:36 But the Lord protects you, right?
27:37 Absolutely.
27:39 And we drive, and we just hit this clearing.
27:43 And in the middle of this clearing
27:44 is this beautiful brand new church.
27:49 Probably could seat about 150 people in the sanctuary.
27:53 And the name of it
27:54 was Piney Woods Gospel Tabernacle.
27:56 Wow.
27:57 And he opened the front door and motioned me in.
28:00 So I looked around, man of few words.
28:02 And I asked him, I'm like,
28:03 "Yeah, this is beautiful brother,
28:05 is this your church?
28:06 And he said, "Yeah."
28:07 He told me that their old church
28:09 had burned down,
28:10 and the insurance money paid to build it back up.
28:12 And he said about 20 people attended,
28:14 and all these things, and then he said,
28:18 "But we don't have a preacher.
28:20 Would you come preach for us every Sunday?"
28:24 To which I said, "Of course."
28:27 So yeah, every Sunday.
28:29 So how did that work though because you were Adventist?
28:32 Yeah.
28:34 But then you preached to them on Sunday,
28:36 so what message were you sharing with them?
28:40 Well, first Sunday was Daniel Chapter 2.
28:43 Okay.
28:44 I literally took them through an evangelistic series,
28:47 week by week.
28:48 So Great Controversy was week two,
28:51 week three was salvation,
28:52 just the traditional order and, yeah,
28:55 I went and worship with them on Sunday.
28:57 Being, our pioneers used to do that too.
28:59 They would go to first day churches
29:00 and preach until they knew the Sabbath truth.
29:03 And then they would change
29:04 if that was how they were convicted.
29:06 And turns out 28 weeks later,
29:11 they call themselves
29:13 the Seventh-day Adventist Piney Woods Gospel Tabernacle.
29:16 Wow.
29:17 So that whole church
29:20 ended up converting to Adventism.
29:22 They did, brother.
29:24 And, you know, it was just so practical.
29:25 I mean, you know, and that's what ARISE taught me
29:28 is you can share with them this knowledge,
29:31 but people just need to be loved.
29:34 And so after church, one Sunday I was in my suit,
29:37 and they said that their cows needed to delivered,
29:41 and that they wanted my help to deliver their cows.
29:44 So after church, on Sunday, there I am with my hand,
29:46 helping a baby cow come out of a mom.
29:50 And they loved it.
29:51 And that meant to them as much as it did
29:53 to talk about the 2300 day prophecy.
29:56 Wow. It was just powerful.
29:57 So then how did they convert?
29:59 Like, how did that work?
30:01 Like, how did they become
30:03 the Seventh-day Adventist Church?
30:04 They went from going to church on Sunday
30:06 to the whole church...
30:07 They switched. Becoming the... Wow.
30:09 Yeah, and so after church, every Sunday,
30:12 like with Daniel chapter 2, they would be,
30:14 "This is something we've never heard before."
30:17 And so they said that they called themselves
30:19 the Seventh-day Adventist Piney Woods Gospel Tabernacle
30:22 before they got that name officially.
30:24 But they said,
30:25 "Yeah, we're Seventh-day Adventist now."
30:27 Wow, that's amazing. Yeah.
30:29 What else took place in Alabama?
30:32 You know, a lot of good stuff.
30:35 One of my fondest, but...
30:38 It's a memory that still,
30:40 kind of, almost haunts me today
30:43 You know, I'm 18 at the time
30:44 when I'm Bible working in Alabama, barely.
30:48 And I remember one week I gave about...
30:51 You know, I gave about 30 Bible studies a week.
30:55 And at church, one Sabbath, a gentleman came,
31:00 and he walked into the back of the church.
31:02 And you could tell he's drunk.
31:06 You could smell it. He was buzzed.
31:09 And after the sermon, the pastor wasn't there.
31:11 I was preaching that day.
31:12 And he came forward to the front, and he said,
31:18 "Pastor, I need to know Jesus."
31:20 And I said, "Well, first of all,
31:22 I'm not a pastor,
31:23 but I can introduce you to Jesus.
31:25 But I've got a Bible study in an hour with somebody else.
31:29 So if you'll meet me here tomorrow, we can do this."
31:33 And he pleaded with me.
31:34 He said, "No, I need to know Jesus now."
31:37 Wow.
31:38 And this went on for like 20 minutes,
31:40 but I had that Bible study to get to.
31:42 So I prayed the sinner's prayer with him,
31:44 shared a couple verses.
31:46 And then I just told him,
31:48 I would go to his house the next day and confirmed this.
31:53 And he said, "Well..."
31:54 He didn't want to do that.
31:55 But he said, "If that's the best you can do,
31:57 I'm hard of hearing, so knock on my door loud.
32:00 And if I don't answer, come in."
32:01 So I had my Bible study next day.
32:04 I drove out to this man's house,
32:06 knocked, walked in.
32:09 And he was faced down on the floor.
32:11 He didn't make it through the night.
32:13 He had a heart attack. Ah, no!
32:16 And an 18-year-old boy...
32:20 you know, that's still haunts me today
32:22 because the Lord had given me an opportunity
32:26 to share Him with somebody.
32:29 Yeah.
32:30 And to this day,
32:32 I don't know if that man was ready.
32:35 Yeah.
32:37 Did he pray that prayer with you though?
32:39 He did. He did.
32:41 He did.
32:42 But, you know, that same day,
32:46 I went to another Bible study's house.
32:48 Knocked, opened the door,
32:50 and not to be graphic but he was...
32:53 He committed suicide,
32:55 and he was there in his living room still.
32:56 You could still see with, how he had done it.
32:59 Man, that same day? Same day.
33:03 And I start...
33:06 Then later the next week,
33:08 someone else died of a drug overdose
33:10 that I gave Bible studies to.
33:12 And I thought,
33:14 "This is a Great Controversy we're in."
33:16 Oh, yeah. Yeah.
33:18 This is no joke.
33:19 Like, you know, as a pastor, you go to board meetings
33:23 and you talk about Numbers and baptismal goals,
33:27 and tithe goals, and all those things,
33:28 which are well and good.
33:30 But we don't give Bible studies,
33:33 we don't preach evangelistic series,
33:35 we don't share
33:37 just because we think it's a game where we shouldn't,
33:42 because this is a battle
33:45 for people's souls for eternity.
33:48 And people are dying every day
33:51 without hearing that name of Jesus.
33:54 Yeah.
33:58 I can't imagine having that type of day
34:02 that you had, where you saw two people...
34:05 not one but two people that you had talked to
34:11 and you had prayed with one guy,
34:14 and then they were dead.
34:19 Especially at 18, I struggled.
34:25 But in that year that I was there,
34:27 and in those struggles,
34:29 that arrogance that I had started to melt away.
34:35 And I started talking with her again,
34:37 and she helps me with that.
34:40 But you begin to realize how little you know.
34:46 And you learn to relate with people,
34:48 and I'm still working on this, but people need the Lord.
34:52 That's what it boils down to. Oh, absolutely.
34:54 Yeah. Absolutely.
34:56 So, Dakota, where were you at this time
35:02 when all of this was going on?
35:04 So before he had ever gone to Alabama or anything,
35:09 I remember saying to my friends on whatever,
35:12 "I would never date Garhett, like, absolutely not.
35:15 He thinks too highly of himself,"
35:18 and blah, blah, blah.
35:19 And after that year,
35:23 you know, we started talking towards the end of that year.
35:25 And he came home,
35:27 and the growth that I saw over that year
35:29 in the maturity that he had,
35:31 he was much more gentle and much more understanding,
35:35 and that kind of started to melt my heart
35:38 towards him a little bit.
35:40 And he had...
35:41 At the end of that year, we start...
35:43 We were just talking over like texting,
35:45 and FaceTime, and stuff.
35:46 And he texted me one day out of the blue,
35:49 and said, "You know,
35:51 I'm going to marry you someday, right?"
35:54 Like, and that's all he said.
35:56 Bold move, man. I like that.
35:57 That's how it's done. Good job.
36:00 And then didn't answer me for the next three days.
36:02 Ignored her.
36:03 Like completely 'cause I was mad.
36:05 I was like, "You can't just say that,
36:07 like absolutely not."
36:10 So then after that, three days were over.
36:14 He claims he was scared. I wasn't sacred.
36:17 I know what I was doing.
36:20 You planted the seed. Oh, yeah, man.
36:22 I mean, that's discipleship,
36:23 you plant the seed, let it germinate, right?
36:26 I was so mad, but after that,
36:28 we kind of started to talk about, you know,
36:30 potentially seeing where this could go,
36:33 you know, we didn't want to ruin the friendship
36:35 that we had built, but at the same time,
36:37 he was like, you know,
36:39 "Do you want to consider pursuing a relationship,
36:41 I think that we'd be a good team."
36:43 And coming from my past, I was like, "No way, man."
36:46 Like 'cause he wanted to be a pastor.
36:48 And I said, "I can't be a pastor's wife."
36:50 Like, absolutely, like, "Do you know my past?
36:53 Do you know, you know,
36:55 the stuff I've been through and the stuff I've done?"
36:57 And he's like, "That's why you'd be good at it
36:59 because of these experiences that you've had."
37:01 He said, "I disagree with you.
37:02 I think you need to talk to the Lord."
37:04 And just like let it go again.
37:06 He was like, didn't talk about it.
37:08 And so I wrestled with God for a while 'cause I was like,
37:11 "Lord, I'm not worthy of this,"
37:12 like this is a very specific calling,
37:15 you know?
37:16 And through a variety of circumstances,
37:20 the Lord kind of led me to an understanding
37:22 that, you know, just because you have a past
37:24 doesn't mean that you can't minister to people,
37:28 you know, and relate to people
37:30 because of the stuff that you've been through.
37:34 So we've started to talk about dating
37:37 and pursue a relationship,
37:39 and then I went to Peru for six months.
37:42 Oh, wow.
37:43 Kind of a student missionary kind of deal.
37:45 Yeah.
37:46 With People of Peru Project, and that solidified for me
37:49 even more that I wanted to be in ministry,
37:51 that I wanted to, you know,
37:53 give my life completely over to God
37:54 and make this my life's work.
37:57 And so that...
37:59 Yeah, he proposed to me shortly before I went to Peru,
38:02 and so I was planning a wedding from Peru.
38:07 It was an interesting experience, long distance...
38:08 I showed up to the wedding two days beforehand,
38:11 not even having anything to wear yet 'cause I was...
38:13 At that time, I was working in Lansing, Michigan.
38:15 Okay.
38:17 And so we just finished up evangelistic series,
38:19 and then I pulled in, and got married,
38:20 and then went back out to work.
38:22 Yeah. Wow.
38:23 That was a quick...
38:24 He wanted to make sure
38:26 you came back from Peru and he said,
38:27 "I'm going to propose to you now.
38:29 And I want you to comeback."
38:30 Exactly that. Yes.
38:32 That's awesome.
38:33 That is awesome. Yeah.
38:34 And it's a really great sign, Dakota,
38:36 that you were praying that, you know,
38:38 you told him that you should pray
38:40 and ask the Lord,
38:41 and you were praying yourself too, you know,
38:45 that's a sign that the Holy Spirit
38:46 was working on your heart, too.
38:48 Yeah, absolutely.
38:49 The fact that you realized
38:50 your need for prayer at that moment.
38:53 And, you know,
38:54 there's a lot of people who may feel like,
38:57 you know, "My past is too much.
39:00 How can God still...
39:02 Why would God want to use me?" Right.
39:04 You guys are speaking to that. Yeah, absolutely.
39:07 And you know, she can relate to people
39:08 in ways that I can't because, you know,
39:12 I love my father-in-law so much,
39:14 but you worked with him through some of those things.
39:18 And now she can relate to people
39:19 that are struggling with the same things
39:21 in a way that I can't say that I ever have.
39:22 Right. She dealt with that.
39:24 And so it's just a blessing to have that.
39:27 Paul was right when he says man shouldn't be alone, right?
39:30 That's right. That's right.
39:33 Yeah, now let me ask you guys this question.
39:36 When you guys solidified your relationship with Christ
39:40 and, you know, you were solid Christians again,
39:44 did everything just become perfect?
39:47 Do you not struggle? Do you not have struggles?
39:49 You know, sometimes people think,
39:51 "Well, you know, all right,
39:52 they're Christians, they have no problems."
39:54 No.
39:56 You know, I had some really great support
39:58 from her family and my family
39:59 when we started to talk about marriage
40:01 and stuff like that.
40:03 Her Uncle John, John Tosh, shout-out to him
40:05 if he's watching.
40:07 But he told her a few years before we got married
40:11 that we would be married someday.
40:14 He always had my back, and I really appreciate that.
40:16 But when people found out
40:18 that we were going to be married,
40:19 we got a lot of backlash.
40:21 Really? I still don't know really why.
40:24 Okay, that was going to be my next question.
40:25 Yeah, I don't know.
40:28 But... Well, we're young.
40:30 We were young. Yeah, we were young.
40:31 Like I was 21, she was 20.
40:33 I wasn't a pastor yet.
40:35 I was still Bible working.
40:37 And so there was a lot of unknowns,
40:40 but when you have faith in the Lord
40:41 and you work hard, the Lord always provides.
40:45 Yeah, you know,
40:47 when you when you said we were young
40:49 and all that stuff, like I forgot that you are 23.
40:52 I'm still young. I forgot for a second.
40:55 You're very mature for your age and everything.
40:57 Oh, no, God is good.
41:00 What's it like being a pastor's wife?
41:01 Now that you're in it and now that you're...
41:04 Absolutely.
41:05 A part of it, what's it like being a pastor's wife?
41:07 Yeah, there's definitely challenges,
41:10 and there's definitely stuff that,
41:12 especially as a young pastor's wife
41:13 gets thrown at me and I'm like, "I don't know,
41:16 like, How am I supposed to handle this."
41:18 But it's so rewarding,
41:20 and I love supporting him and working alongside him.
41:24 And the Lord has led me to people who I am, you know,
41:29 having Bible studies with, and working with,
41:32 and mentoring in ways
41:35 that I never thought would be possible.
41:36 And so I mean, every calling, every, you know,
41:41 work has its challenges, but I love it.
41:44 I do.
41:45 Being at the center of God's will
41:47 is the ultimate peace,
41:49 yeah, regardless of whatever hits you,
41:52 you have peace.
41:53 And that's such a beautiful blessing.
41:57 Amen. Amen.
41:58 And what's it like for you being a senior pastor?
42:01 You know, a lot of credit goes to some of my mentors,
42:06 you know, James Rafferty married the both of us
42:08 and he spent some time
42:09 counseling us through those things.
42:12 Having people to bounce ideas off of
42:15 and having people that don't struggle,
42:17 we're rebuking you is a big deal.
42:21 And Wes Peppers,
42:23 I worked with him as a Bible worker
42:25 for about two years.
42:26 And with Nancy Larson, she's a pastor's wife
42:29 and was in Michigan too,
42:31 they just her and her husband just retired a while ago.
42:33 Okay.
42:34 But when I messed up, they told me.
42:37 Yeah.
42:38 And they would make sure I made it right.
42:39 Everything from, you know, how to tie a tie.
42:42 All the way down to making sure that, you know,
42:45 when I was in a Bible study with the woman
42:47 that I brought my wife along to make sure that there...
42:49 You know, just to be safe. Yeah. Yeah, absolutely.
42:52 All of those things,
42:53 so definitely having the right mentorship
42:56 is extremely important.
42:58 And I've been blessed with excellent mentors
43:01 and those people, but also realizing...
43:03 And I was reading in the Spirit of Prophecy
43:05 just the other day
43:06 that when people are working in God's ministry,
43:12 we often think that the work can't go on
43:13 without us.
43:16 But realizing that the Lord will make sure
43:18 that His three angels' messages will continue to go on
43:20 with or without you.
43:21 Oh, yeah.
43:23 You're replaceable. That's right.
43:25 And so realizing that
43:27 there's nothing special about me.
43:29 Lord may have blessed me with some things,
43:31 but the Lord gives, Lord can take away.
43:33 That's right. That's absolutely right.
43:36 So how do you deal with like
43:40 let's say an older member comes to...
43:42 This is like the situation you were speaking about.
43:44 Like, how do you deal with that, like,
43:47 if they present an issue, what's your process?
43:50 Yeah.
43:52 So I have three churches in the Michigan area.
43:54 Wait a moment, you got three churches?
43:56 Yeah.
43:57 Just north of Grand Rapids, Big Rapids, Reed City,
43:59 and Bristol churches.
44:01 Wow.
44:02 Salt of the earth people, I love them dearly.
44:04 I haven't really had much of an issue with my age.
44:08 But it can be awkward if you let it be awkward.
44:13 But I always let people know
44:15 when they come to me with an issue.
44:17 I'll say, "You know, I may be young
44:18 and not have much experience in that,
44:21 but I know someone that has lived a lot longer
44:23 than I have.
44:24 In fact, He has no beginning.
44:26 He has no end." Come on now.
44:27 "And together, you and I both learning,
44:30 we can find answers through His Word
44:32 and through prayer."
44:34 And so if there's a situation that comes up
44:36 that I don't necessarily know, I know someone that does.
44:38 Amen.
44:40 And so just leading them through that
44:42 is just so important.
44:43 And I tell you, it's just, you know, there's hard days,
44:47 but it's a blast.
44:49 I love this work. Amen.
44:51 Yeah. Amen.
44:52 Okay, so I'm going to ask you a question that I asked
44:56 just about every pastor that I meet,
44:58 usually not on camera, but usually I ask them off.
45:03 How do you prepare your sermons?
45:05 Oh, great question.
45:07 So I have three churches and every other week,
45:10 I preach it all three churches, every Sabbath,
45:13 our times are scheduled
45:14 so I can do three every Sabbath.
45:15 Wow.
45:17 And so sometimes I preach the same one.
45:18 Sometimes I preach three different sermons.
45:21 And my wife is so patient.
45:24 Sometimes she listens to the same sermon
45:26 three times in a day.
45:28 So thank you.
45:30 But I have a few people I love to read.
45:36 I read like...
45:37 My goal is 10 books a month.
45:39 That's my goal.
45:41 So four spiritual Spirit of Prophecy,
45:46 a few modern spiritual like, you know,
45:49 Ty Gibson and stuff like that.
45:52 And then the rest historical
45:54 like American history, World History.
45:56 And when you read those types of books,
45:57 it gives you ideas.
46:00 And so like I have... I'm a bit...
46:03 Kind of my hero is HMS Richards.
46:05 Old one. Okay.
46:06 You know, this is the Voice of Prophecy.
46:09 And so, you know,
46:10 I have a bunch of his sermon transcripts
46:12 that I read through.
46:14 WD Frizzy, for instance, I read through all his stuff.
46:18 And then just getting ideas in your devotional life,
46:21 and then sometimes they'll just...
46:23 Sometimes the sermon will just bam, it's there.
46:25 And you can write it out in 40 minutes,
46:28 and you're like this is going to be powerful.
46:30 And then there are some that I struggle.
46:32 Yeah, yeah.
46:33 Lord, I've been in here for four hours
46:36 and I've got a paragraph.
46:39 But you know, the Lord always provides
46:40 and as long as you're humble
46:44 and you're on your knees in prayer...
46:46 Scott Moore, another one of my mentors.
46:48 He told me that for every five minutes,
46:50 you spend in sermon prep, spend 10 minutes in prayer.
46:53 And that's what I've done and it works.
46:55 Nice.
46:56 So in other words, what I'm getting from you
46:59 is there's multiple different ways
47:01 on how you go about preparing it.
47:03 Your devotional life... It's huge.
47:05 Very important.
47:07 I've heard that that's like a common thread
47:09 to a lot of times it will...
47:10 And making sure your devotional life
47:12 isn't so that you can have a sermon.
47:14 Separate your devotional life from sermon prep.
47:17 Sometimes it comes out of your devotions,
47:19 but that shouldn't be the reason.
47:21 Yeah, yeah.
47:22 The main reason is cultivating that relationship and spending
47:25 that time with God.
47:26 How do you get to know God better?
47:28 By spending time with Him. Exactly.
47:30 But, you know, we've been blessed
47:31 not only do we have churches but we get to help out
47:33 with Strong Tower Radio.
47:35 It covers probably what two-thirds of Michigan?
47:38 Maybe a little bit more. Probably more.
47:40 And so I have a radio program on there,
47:42 called History Retold.
47:45 And she does recording for them.
47:47 And they use a lot of 3ABN radio as you know.
47:49 Yes, yes, yes.
47:51 They've got 3ABN Radio, they've got Dare to Dream,
47:55 they use programs from the 3ABN the parent network,
48:00 I think, even 3ABN Latino.
48:02 Yep. Yeah. They use that too.
48:03 We love Strong Tower Radio.
48:06 Yes, it's a huge resource too.
48:08 We have people walking into our churches
48:10 that we have had no previous contact
48:12 with except for from Strong Tower Radio,
48:14 they've heard it in their cars, heard it in their homes,
48:17 and they're just coming in saying,
48:19 "We want to join this church, this is our church now."
48:22 And they already have the background
48:23 of believing in the Sabbath and all this stuff
48:25 because they've heard the radio.
48:27 So it's a beautiful thing and a beautiful resource
48:31 for us to have.
48:33 Absolutely. Yeah.
48:34 You know, I can only preach for so long,
48:35 but Strong Tower Radio is 24 hours like 3ABN is.
48:38 There you go.
48:39 So it's a constant evangelistic series,
48:41 it's well-rounded, and praise the Lord.
48:43 Yeah.
48:44 And see that's the beautiful thing
48:46 is like, you know, these gospels to go
48:47 into all of the world.
48:48 Amen. But what better way than media?
48:50 Oh, yeah.
48:51 you know, that's someone can turn on their TV,
48:53 someone can turn on their radio,
48:54 someone can go to the website.
48:56 That's right.
48:57 You know, and they can hear
48:59 these precious truths being presented and shared.
49:01 For all the evil that media is used for,
49:04 the Lord can use it for a whole lot of good.
49:05 That's right, absolutely right.
49:07 So what does a typical day look like for you
49:10 at Strong Tower, if there is a typical day?
49:14 No, really. It really depends.
49:16 We're up there at least once a week usually,
49:19 and we'll meet...
49:21 I will usually meet with their marketing director,
49:23 and we go over weekly goals for the email newsletter
49:28 and different marketing strategies
49:30 with Facebook and that kind of stuff.
49:32 And then you and I will usually go
49:34 into the recording studio,
49:36 and I'll record him
49:37 for probably an hour and a half, two hours.
49:40 And just kind of buzz
49:43 through a bunch of the recordings
49:44 that he wants to do that he has pre-prepared
49:46 and then...
49:48 Yeah, so it's a little bit of a process.
49:51 It's quite a bit,
49:52 and you're wearing multiple hats.
49:54 Yeah. She does.
49:55 Piano player, Sabbath School teacher,
49:57 I mean, I'm blessed.
49:59 That's right.
50:00 Now if people want to invite you to their church,
50:03 if they want to have you come share your testimony,
50:06 how can they get in touch with you?
50:08 What's your email address?
50:09 Yeah, the best way to get ahold of me is my email.
50:12 It's simple.
50:13 It's on the screen I think, but gmorgan@misda.org.
50:16 and misda.org Michigan Conference.
50:19 Yeah, send me an email and I can see
50:20 if I can get something worked in my schedule,
50:23 and I'm allowed to do that every once in a while.
50:24 Okay.
50:25 And so yeah,
50:27 if you have any questions or anything,
50:29 I don't have all the answers but, again, the Lord does.
50:31 Amen. Amen.
50:32 And what advice would you have for that young person
50:37 that just feels like the Lord can't use him or her?
50:44 Let no one despise your youth.
50:47 But also, you know, we have a lot of people today
50:51 say that our church
50:52 isn't inclusive of young people,
50:55 that there's no young people in leadership
50:56 and all these things,
50:58 but just because you're young
50:59 doesn't entitle you to leadership,
51:01 just because you're young.
51:02 So if you want to be involved, do it.
51:07 You might not be a board member,
51:08 but show up to your local board meeting.
51:09 Yeah.
51:11 And if you don't feel equipped, if you don't feel good enough,
51:13 that is good enough.
51:15 That's what God wants.
51:17 And He can take that humble spirit
51:18 that you have and use it
51:20 to be somebody powerful for Him.
51:23 And I guarantee you if a church sees a young person
51:26 on fire for God,
51:28 they would be crazy not to use that person.
51:30 Yes, yes.
51:31 And I'm sure they would. Absolutely.
51:33 I would say too don't limit God.
51:35 Don't put God in a box
51:37 just because you don't feel like
51:39 you're good at something or good at one specific thing,
51:43 don't push that out of the way
51:45 if you feel that God is leading you to that
51:46 because He will equip you
51:48 and He will give you the understanding
51:51 and the means necessary to do that,
51:54 whether it be Bible study, or, you know,
51:56 being on the local board, or teaching at Sabbath school,
51:59 or whatever that may be,
52:01 He'll use you and He'll give you the words.
52:04 Absolutely. Amen.
52:05 Like He doesn't call... How does it go?
52:09 He doesn't call the qualified, but he qualifies the called.
52:13 Yeah, there we go. That's how it goes.
52:15 I can't believe our time is almost up.
52:18 Went fast. It did.
52:19 It went very fast.
52:21 We are gonna take a look at a short news break
52:25 and then right after that,
52:27 we'll have a little bit more time
52:29 to continue this conversation.
52:30 Amen.


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