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Series Code: TDY
Program Code: TDY018026A
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00:01 I want to spend my life
00:07 Mending broken people 00:12 I want to spend my life 00:18 Removing pain 00:23 Lord, let my words 00:29 Heal a heart that hurts 00:34 I want to spend my life 00:39 Mending broken people 00:45 I want to spend my life 00:50 Mending broken people 01:10 Hello, and welcome to 3ABN Today. 01:12 My name is CA Murray, and allow me once again 01:14 to thank you for sharing 01:16 just a little of your no doubt busy day with us. 01:19 So thank you as always for your love, your prayers, 01:21 your support of Three Angels Broadcasting Network. 01:24 And when we say that, 01:26 we mean it from the bottom of our hearts. 01:27 We realize that we could not do what we're called to do 01:30 without your partnership and your support, 01:32 these 30 plus years and God has been good. 01:36 And we've seen the ministry grow, 01:38 but also we've seen 01:39 the work of God go throughout this world, 01:42 and we're so thankful for your love, your prayers, 01:44 your support, your partnership with us. 01:46 I'm excited today, for a couple of reasons. 01:48 One, because of the subject matter, 01:50 and then I'm in the company of two young good looking guys 01:54 who are on fire for the Lord. 01:57 First, my co-host Jason Bradley, 01:59 I've known since before he was born. 02:02 That is true. That is true. 02:06 It was my privilege to baptize his mom 02:08 while she was still carrying you. 02:11 So basically, since you got baptized again... 02:13 We don't believe in infant baptism, 02:15 certainly not in uteral baptism. 02:19 So you have to come out and get baptized on your own. 02:21 That's right. That's right. 02:22 But when your mom came to the Lord, 02:25 she was carrying you 02:26 then short after that you made your entrance into the world. 02:29 And now here we are 30 plus years later... 02:32 Yes. 02:33 Sitting side by side, so I'm a happy man, 02:35 I'm happy for that. I'm happy to be here with you. 02:36 Praise the Lord. Praise the Lord. 02:38 It's good to have you here. 02:40 And then, our guest is somebody you know. 02:42 Oh, yeah. 02:44 This is my first time meeting him, 02:45 but we're very excited to have Eric Camarillo? 02:48 Yes. Camarillo. 02:49 Camarillo. Camarillo. 02:50 Okay, I want to get it right. Camarillo. 02:53 The ministry is SALT, he is the founder, S-A-L-T. 02:56 And, Jason, we'll talk about 02:58 what that's all about in just a little bit 02:59 but how long have you guys known each other? 03:02 It's probably been at least a year, maybe two. 03:06 Maybe two. 03:08 I seem to constantly cross paths with Eric 03:10 at all of these different events 03:13 whether it's GYC or here or whatever the case maybe, 03:18 he is always doing something for the Lord. 03:20 Yeah, yeah. 03:21 Yeah. Yeah. 03:22 If you're on fire for the Lord and involved in ministry, 03:24 you tend to run into the same groups of people 03:26 because it's those people that are on fire for the Lord 03:29 and doing things for the Lord 03:30 that tend to bump up against each other all the time. 03:32 ASI, GYC, these kinds of things, 03:34 you tend to have a chance to meet, and sort of greet, 03:36 and work together. 03:38 So, Eric, good to have you here, man. 03:39 Yeah. No, I'm glad to be here. Yeah, yeah. 03:41 These guys make me feel old, 03:44 you know, you two... 03:47 These guys are young men, I feel old. 03:49 Well, at least one of us can get an AARP discount. 03:57 I appreciate that. 04:00 Yes, sir. 04:01 But a number of things we're going to talk about today 04:04 before we go to our music 04:06 that we want to kind of set the table for 04:07 because first of all, dealing with Eric's story 04:12 shows a number of things. 04:13 Jason, I want to almost jump to the punch line 04:16 that when you stand up for the Lord, 04:18 the Lord has promised to stand up for you, you know. 04:20 Absolutely. 04:21 When you put yourself on the side of Christ, 04:25 Christ will work for you, with you, 04:28 through you to accomplish His will. 04:32 And the road is not always an easy one, 04:34 many times your faith will be tested as you well know... 04:37 Yes. In coming to the Lord. 04:38 And as Eric's story will prove in just a little bit. 04:42 But the punch line is, 04:45 He'll never leave you nor forsake you, you know. 04:48 And when you look back... 04:49 And sometimes, Eric, 04:50 you can only get perspective as you turn around 04:52 and kind of look back where you come from, 04:54 and you can say, "Oh, yeah, He was there, 04:56 He was there, He was there." 04:57 And your story really says that in a marvelous way. 05:00 Yeah, praise God. 05:01 Yeah, I'm just glad to be here right now, 05:04 you know what I mean? 05:05 Yeah, God's really brought me through. 05:06 Yeah. Yeah. 05:08 You can kind of see the joy of the Lord in his face. 05:09 Yeah. His countenance. 05:11 Yes. 05:12 As I do in yours. 05:14 So I'll praise the Lord for that. 05:15 We praise the Lord for that. Before we go to music... 05:17 Let's just kind of wade into this thing, man, 05:19 because there is so much good... 05:22 Did you grow up in a Christian home? 05:24 I did not. I did not. 05:26 No, it was a primarily Catholic home. 05:30 Yeah, my mom and dad, generations of Catholics, 05:33 I kind of broke the mold I guess. 05:35 Yeah. Practicing Catholics? 05:37 You know or kind of just because Catholic can mean 05:40 Catholic or it can mean like intensity Catholic 05:43 or kind of partially Catholic? 05:46 I would say kind of in between, 05:49 you know, we go to church on Sundays. 05:52 You know, pray in the rosary, 05:55 you know, different prayers that, you know, that happen. 05:59 Yeah, I'm not too involved in the Catholic Church per se 06:02 but just, you know, at home it was definitely present. 06:07 Yeah, yeah. 06:09 Brothers and sisters? 06:10 Two younger brothers. So you're the oldest? 06:12 I'm the oldest, yes. 06:15 So you were grown up in a Catholic home, 06:17 and where are you born? 06:18 I was actually born in Chicago. 06:20 Yeah, I was born in Chicago, I moved to Florida, 06:23 I'm in Orlando now when I was 15. 06:27 Okay. Yeah. 06:28 And that's... 06:29 Yeah, I moved actually 06:31 because I was wearing the wrong colors one day 06:33 walking home from school. 06:35 And someone held me at gunpoint, 06:37 me and a friend of mine. 06:38 And so my mom... 06:40 I wasn't going to tell my mom 06:41 'cause I knew exactly what my mom would want to do, 06:43 she want to get out of there 06:44 and, you know, I have my friends there 06:46 at school and all that 06:47 and, you know, this is BC, you know, in everything. 06:51 And so, she found out 06:53 and she is like, "We're going to Florida, 06:55 you know, you've an uncle lives in Central Florida as well. 06:59 Let's go down there." 07:00 So that's why we moved down. Okay. 07:02 Because I don't hear a lot of Florida in you, 07:04 I hear more Chicago in your speech practice 07:06 that I go to Florida, kind of thing. 07:09 But just wearing a wrong color, Jason, 07:12 can get you into a whole lot of trouble, man. 07:13 It sure can. Yeah, yeah. 07:15 It did. It definitely did, yeah. 07:17 So you moved down to Florida? 07:18 Yeah. 07:20 Yeah, with my family... 07:22 Yeah, I lived in, 07:24 you know, kind of a rural area for a little bit 07:26 and then moved to more of like the Orlando area 07:30 when I was 21. 07:31 Give me some sense, Eric, 07:33 what kind of young person you were, obedient... 07:37 Just a little flavor of your... 07:38 Okay, 15, you're transferred from Chicago to Florida. 07:41 Right. 07:43 How was that working out for you, you know, at that age? 07:45 Yeah. No, I was upset. I was very upset. 07:48 I gave my parents really hard time about moving. 07:51 I didn't want to go. 07:53 But, you know, we moved, 07:54 and I always thought of myself as a good kid, you know. 07:58 But, yeah, I came down, and I had to kind of 08:02 reintegrate myself into high school. 08:05 I mean, for a while 08:06 I didn't want to go into lunchroom at school 08:08 when I started at the new high school, 08:10 I just would hangout in the bathroom, you know. 08:12 And I would be like, 08:13 "Well, what can I do productive in here?" 08:15 I'd do pull-ups or something or I don't know. 08:17 You know, because I didn't want to go, it's very hard, 08:19 it's very hard to make friends in high school. 08:22 Yeah. 08:23 And so, you know, I was more of a shy person back then. 08:27 That's kind of, yeah, how it went. 08:30 So that move was kind of traumatic? 08:32 Yeah, it was hard. It was definitely hard, yeah. 08:35 So did you end up making friends? 08:36 And did you end up becoming a little bit more social? 08:40 I did and it's funny 08:41 because the way that happened was I ended up 08:45 starting a break dancing crew. 08:47 And, you know, and so that kind of 08:50 put us kind of at top of the chain I guess 08:56 and, you know, so we got along 08:58 with all the other clicks and groups in school, 09:00 and we break dance at little shows, and stuff like that. 09:04 And so that crew became almost like a brotherhood, 09:08 you know, we came very close. 09:10 Yeah. 09:12 How long after the move 09:14 did this actually kind of crystallize for you? 09:17 You know... 09:19 Probably about six months. Okay. 09:21 Yeah, six months, not too long. 09:23 Yeah, I found someone, I was walking to class, 09:24 I saw someone 09:26 with a break dancing person on their backpack. 09:29 And I went and asked them, "Do you break dance?" 09:31 And this was maybe... 09:33 You know, I had been starting to learn back in Chicago. 09:35 And he is like, "Yeah, I do." 09:37 And then so in class, whenever we won't do anything, 09:40 we just practice break dancing and that sort of thing. 09:42 Actually, that friend of mine, we did Bible studies together 09:46 about two years ago, and he came to Christ. 09:48 Oh, wow. 09:49 Now he is following the Lord now but... 09:50 And which is exciting, 09:52 you know, someone from my high school days 09:54 in the same crew together, and it's just cool. 09:56 We were even roommates for a little while. 09:57 Yeah, yeah. 09:59 At its height, how big was this group of people 10:02 that were part of this break dancing? 10:03 It was probably about eight of us. 10:05 Yeah, probably about eight consistent people. 10:07 So you got this little society now, 10:09 you got some homies as it were, 10:11 and how within you got some people 10:12 to kind of make you feel comfortable. 10:14 So the transition wasn't so bad. 10:17 Your high school years as you look back at them, 10:20 were they pretty successful, pretty normal, any trauma, 10:24 any drama, or did the things move along pretty smooth? 10:26 Well, you know, it's... 10:27 One thing that definitely was tough and growing up... 10:33 My dad had schizophrenia. 10:36 And so, you know, it was tough growing up 10:41 and, you know, he is very abusive. 10:43 If we didn't admit to hearing the voices or seeing the things 10:46 that he saw and heard, he would get physically abusive. 10:49 And we were told by the doctor to not validate those things. 10:55 And so as kids, as a young kid, I was in second grade, 10:58 you know, I had to, you know, teach my brothers 11:01 and also myself to not listen to my dad 11:05 when he is saying these things. 11:06 And it would result in some painful experiences 11:11 but as I got into high school. 11:13 Actually, when I moved to Florida, 11:14 that kind of stopped a little bit 11:16 for a little while, 11:17 and I was bigger, I was stronger, 11:20 it couldn't happen as much. 11:21 And so that part kind of relaxing a bit 11:26 helped a lot in my high school years 11:28 moving to Florida. 11:30 Besides that, I mean, you know, we were little rebellious, 11:35 you know, as teens, I mean, we did some stuff, 11:39 you know, like graffiti and things like that, 11:42 different places, and it just wasn't... 11:45 Yeah, it wasn't too good, we skip school a lot, 11:48 you know, and it's funny 11:50 because the reason me skipping school I missed about, 11:53 I had 28 unexcused absences at the end of my senior year. 11:57 And that was probably the worst 11:59 of all my high school years there, 12:01 and I had to excuse those absences. 12:03 So I remember a friend of mine that was in the crew as well, 12:07 he is like, "Look, you know, use these doctor's notes, 12:09 they work for me." 12:11 So I go and I turn these doctor's notes 12:12 into excuse 10 of the absences, 12:15 or I'm sorry, 18 of the absences 12:18 because 10 absences I could excuse with parent notes. 12:21 So I turn in six notes, each note having three days on them. 12:26 The next day I come to school, 12:28 a couple of days before graduation, 12:30 counselor calls me to the office 12:31 and cops in there, 12:33 "You're under arrest, forgery and fraud." 12:37 I went to jail and I had 12 felonies on my record 12:40 as an 18 year-old in and out of high school. 12:42 Twelve felonies on your record? 12:45 I did. Wow. 12:46 And the intention was, 12:49 you know, was to graduate school, 12:51 I wasn't forging checks or, you know, whatever 12:53 but to misuse someone's signature. 12:55 I mean, that's... 12:57 And especially a doctor, 12:58 I mean, that's a big offense, yeah. 13:00 But I'm... 13:01 Yeah, it kind of messed me up a little, 13:03 couple of years after high school. 13:04 Yeah. Yeah. 13:06 Now just kind of want to hit the pause button there 13:07 just a little bit because you got these felonies, 13:11 does this mandate jail time or... 13:14 So it did. 13:17 So I was actually only in jail for a full day. 13:21 And I remember telling my mom like... 13:22 Where I had to make that one phone call. 13:25 I'm like... 13:26 My bail was $120,000. 13:29 And with a bail bondsman 13:31 and the collateral and all that, 13:32 they get me out for 12, you know. 13:34 And so I told my mom, "Look, don't worry about it." 13:36 We were tight on money at that time. 13:37 "Do not, you know, I'm good, we'll wait till the court day, 13:41 I doubt they're going to keep me in here longer, 13:43 it was for trying to excuse absences." 13:46 And she... 13:48 You know, I already had it all in my head, 13:52 you know, "Okay, well, at least I'm in here, 13:54 I could workout, you know, I could maybe, 13:56 you know, do something productive in here." 13:58 But the next day, they came and got me 14:02 and said someone, you know, paid my bail. 14:04 My mom talked to all my relatives, 14:07 they all gathered money together, 14:08 and they got me out. 14:10 So I was only in there for a day. 14:12 But, yeah. 14:14 Now let me ask you a question 'cause it makes me ask, 14:18 what did that teach you about life? 14:21 Or did that, did it sink in? 14:22 Because sometimes as a teenager you can go through stuff 14:25 and it's just kind of in, 14:26 went out the other doesn't do anything 14:27 or it can be a pivotal point in changing 14:30 how you address life in total. 14:32 What did that do for you? 14:33 You know, it's... 14:36 The thing that... 14:37 That experience didn't necessarily... 14:40 That experience itself didn't necessarily do much for me 14:44 but it was the time after 14:46 because with 12 felonies on your record, 14:48 I mean, you can't get a job. 14:49 Actually, I had missed work, 14:51 I was working at Walmart as a cart pusher at that time. 14:54 I had missed work, and I was let go. 14:56 So I had no job, I had no way to make money, 14:58 I couldn't find a job, applied to fast food restaurants, 15:01 they wouldn't even hire me because they don't want me 15:03 behind the register with fraud and, you know, and forgery. 15:06 So it was very difficult. 15:10 I had to learn how to make money another way. 15:15 And it forced me to get more into business, 15:19 you know, more into, you know, sales. 15:22 And that's what I did. 15:24 And my mom, 15:26 you know, kind of helped me out a little bit with that 15:28 and she got involved, you know, to support me. 15:33 And yeah, but it taught me a lot. 15:34 Actually, those skills I learned after that time 15:37 actually help me in ministry today. 15:40 You know, 'cause I had to learn how to prospect, 15:42 how to talk to people, 15:44 how to understand and read people. 15:46 But yeah, for a time before that even happened, 15:48 I was, went through a little depression mode 15:50 for about a year, year maybe even two years, 15:54 close to two years, 15:55 where all I did was just play video games 15:57 and, you know, watch movies, and watch TV. 15:59 Because you're really kind of banging your head up 16:01 against the wall. 16:03 And this is interesting, Jason, 16:04 how the devil can have you make a decision very early on 16:08 that has such long-term ramifications. 16:10 It would have been better to take the medicine 16:12 from missing the school than to get your record, 16:15 you know, all tracked up because of that. 16:18 Yeah, and you can't that expunge, right? 16:20 Or can you? Well, you know, I did. 16:22 I ended up getting expunge, it took a long time. 16:25 But I ended up getting the expunge, 16:26 I think I was 22 when it was... 16:30 So it took about four years. 16:33 And there was a lot of mess ups 16:34 and, you know, we had a lawyer that wasn't... 16:36 I guess didn't really know 16:38 what he was doing as well and so. 16:39 But it took four years and they... 16:43 I was able to get expunged, yeah. 16:45 You also touched on something 16:46 and I think it's very important to highlight is the fact that, 16:50 you know, going through this, 16:52 you had to learn other ways to make money, 16:54 you had to learn other ways to survive. 16:58 But these weren't illegal ways, these were legal ways. 17:03 And you gain the tools 17:05 to be able to provide a way for yourself, 17:08 which is important to those people 17:09 that are out there that are struggling, 17:11 they may have made a mistake in their past 17:14 and, you know, they don't... 17:16 Being railroaded so to speak, 17:17 you know, they go out for a job, 17:19 they get denied because they have a felony, 17:21 but you're able create a position for yourself, 17:26 but you've to get the tools. 17:27 Exactly. I think that's very important. 17:28 Yeah, it was... 17:30 I had to, that was the only way. 17:32 And the thing that made me move that direction 17:35 actually was I mentioned I play video games a lot. 17:38 There was a particular game that I played the most, 17:41 and I play seven in the world 17:43 on online tournament in that game. 17:45 And I remember thinking, 17:47 maybe I could do professional gaming, 17:48 you know, I started to think that in my head, 17:50 I don't need a background check for that, you know. 17:52 And so I started doing that 17:56 and then they flew me out to Prague, 17:58 Czech Republic, Microsoft for... 18:00 They flew out the top 12 to do a one-on-one world tournament. 18:05 And placed third in the world there. 18:07 So I'm like, "Okay, this is giving me some credibility." 18:09 You know, I started a clan, where we had like a, 18:12 you know, our own little crew and online 18:14 we versus other clans and our record was crazy, 18:18 it was like 76 and 2 or something crazy like that. 18:23 And there was one time... 18:25 Because in order for me to do that, 18:26 I had to be on the game, 18:28 from when I woke up to when I went to sleep. 18:30 At least for a year I did that. 18:32 And I remember, one day I just snapped, 18:35 I'm like I can't do this. 18:37 And I got to find some other way, 18:39 you know, and that's when I really got more into the, 18:43 you know, business 18:44 and 'cause I had to find something, 18:46 I just couldn't sit there and do that any longer, 18:50 I just wasting my life away I felt. 18:52 See, you were a mass of potential and... 18:58 Here is what I find. 18:59 When you look at your life, God never wastes anything, 19:03 you know, all of these experiences 19:05 become soil for your resume, you know. 19:09 Okay, you made a mistake here, 19:11 this puts you in this sort of arena. 19:14 But you're picking up stuff in this arena 19:16 that you'll be able to use later. 19:18 So there are so many times in our lives when we look back, 19:20 we see, you know, God is working on my resume. 19:22 Right. 19:23 He was actually giving me skills 19:25 that I will need later. 19:26 I'm making a mistake 19:28 but God doesn't let that mistake be final or fatal. 19:31 He allows that to build part of me 19:34 and later on I can use that stuff, you know. 19:36 Absolutely. And it's the same in your life. 19:38 You know, the God does some things that is like, 19:40 "Okay, they may not be the best 19:42 but they become foundation for what I'm doing now." 19:45 So God doesn't waste stuff, you know. 19:46 And it's very important to share that with people 19:49 because, you know, it's not... 19:51 So that you don't go through it in vain. 19:54 You know, somebody else is struggling 19:55 with possibly the same thing that you went through. 19:58 And there is somebody that you can reach 19:59 by sharing your testimony and sharing 20:02 what God has brought you through. 20:03 Yeah. Exactly. 20:05 Yeah, looking back at those experiences, 20:06 you know, I'm able to talk to people that have records, 20:08 that are having a hard time. 20:10 I'm able to talk to kids 20:11 who are addicted to video games. 20:13 And which just happened a week or so ago, 20:16 you know, I'm able to talk to people 20:19 who have been arrested, 20:20 people who have, you know, been in the hip-hop scene, 20:24 people who have... 20:25 And so, as you mentioned, the resume, 20:27 you know, I come to Christ and all these things are here 20:30 that can help me I guess relate 20:33 and witness to other people, so... 20:36 Yeah. It's interesting. 20:38 How you don't have to have a jail history 20:45 to talk to the person who has a jail history. 20:48 But it does legitimize you, you know, it does give you... 20:50 I can say so and so and so. 20:55 And I say okay, fine. 20:56 But you can say, "No, man, I was in the joint, 20:59 I know what you went through." 21:00 You know, so it does give you some instant sort of creed 21:04 with those who have to go there and you can say, 21:05 "I've been there, now I'm here." 21:07 Right. So this is what God can do. 21:10 I think I want to put a pause, hit the pause button here. 21:12 And go to our music 21:13 and sort of breathe a little bit 21:15 'cause here we got a lot to talk about. 21:17 We got a lot to talk about. 21:19 Our music today is coming from the Jim Brady Trio, 21:22 it's a good group of, I'll say, young people. 21:25 Okay. 21:26 But, the Jim Brady Trio came in just a little bit ago 21:29 and it's a music. 21:31 They are going to be singing today, 21:32 "The Love of God". 21:33 You'll like this. 21:49 The love of God is greater far 21:55 Than tongue or pen could ever tell 22:01 It goes beyond the highest star 22:06 And reaches to the lowest hell 22:12 The guilty pair, bowed down with care 22:18 God gave His Son to win 22:25 His erring child 22:28 He reconciled 22:31 And pardoned from his sin 22:53 Could we with ink the ocean fill 23:00 And were the skies 23:03 Of parchment made 23:07 And every stalk 23:10 On earth a quill 23:14 And every man a scribe 23:19 By trade 23:23 To write the love 23:29 Of God above 23:32 Would drain the ocean dry 23:38 Nor could the scroll contain the whole 23:44 Though stretched from sky 23:48 To sky 23:53 Oh, love of God 23:59 How rich and pure 24:02 How measureless 24:06 And strong 24:09 It shall forevermore endure 24:15 The saints' and angels' 24:19 Song 24:24 It shall forevermore 24:30 Endure 24:32 The saints' and angels' 24:36 Song 24:41 How wonderful 24:43 How marvelous 24:46 This precious love 24:52 Oh, God! 24:54 The precious love 24:58 Of God 25:12 Amen and amen. 25:13 Our good buddy Tim Parton part of the Brady Trio there, 25:16 well done. 25:17 We're talking with Eric Camarillo. 25:20 When we left, you were kind of in some hot water, man. 25:24 Yeah, one would not think that what that would result in 25:29 felony charges. 25:31 Your family is trying to deal with that, 25:33 the whole bail thing, trying to get money, 25:35 trying to get you back into shape. 25:37 But it did serve to kind of straighten you out a little bit 25:40 and give you a different perspective on life. 25:42 Right, it did. 25:44 Tell us how Adventism came into the picture, 25:47 and how you became part of the Adventist Church? 25:49 So basically I had, you know... 25:54 I had a girlfriend at the time 25:58 and so her aunt had given me a Bible, 26:03 the Christmas of 2009. 26:06 And I remember us going through a breakup 26:09 and in January of 2010, 26:13 I was kind of depressed about that, 26:15 and I remember picking up my Bible. 26:18 I was feeling empty. I picked up my Bible. 26:22 I hadn't even opened it, 26:23 ripped off the plastic and everything. 26:24 I just flipped through and started reading. 26:26 I flipped through, 26:28 and I noticed some of the words were red, 26:30 they caught my attention, 26:32 and I started reading the Sermon on the Mount. 26:34 And from there I started to feel this comfort 26:38 that I hadn't felt before. 26:40 And then there were some things that contradicted 26:42 what was practiced as a Catholic, 26:44 you know, there was a specific line said, 26:47 "Do not pray in vain repetition, 26:48 as the heathen do, 26:49 for they think they will be heard 26:51 for their many words." 26:52 And I was like, "Wait, but, you know, that's what I do." 26:55 You know, that's what we do, like that's what Catholics do. 26:58 And so, so yeah, that kind of is what opened. 27:01 And I started to think, 27:03 "Okay, well, I heard the story of Adam and Eve, 27:04 let me read that. 27:06 I've heard about the story of David and Goliath, 27:07 let me read that from the Bible." 27:09 And that's what started everything. 27:11 Okay, okay. 27:12 So you jumped from Matthew 5 back into the Old Testament, 27:15 back at the... 27:17 The Lord has kind of given you what you needed at that time. 27:19 Right. Yeah. 27:21 So you're reading the Bible, 27:22 how does this relationship began to grow? 27:23 So I remember reading and reading... 27:27 My mom, you know, she thought I was going crazy 27:29 'cause she had to bring me food to my bed 27:32 because literally, I was just waking up, 27:34 reading all day, going to sleep. 27:36 I'd go to the kitchen, I have the Bible in my hand, 27:38 be reading. 27:40 And so, you know, 27:42 I started to read things I didn't understand, 27:44 you know, I stepped away from the stories 27:46 and started reading other things 27:48 and, you know, some things in the New Testament, 27:50 there are some things in the Old Testament. 27:52 And I remember calling up three groups of friends. 27:55 And I asked them to teach me the Bible. 27:58 And so one group was my closer friends, 28:01 they were all nondenominational 28:05 and the other two groups were actually Adventists. 28:08 And so I got to learn both perspectives. 28:12 But the Adventist perspective 28:14 is what made the most sense to me. 28:16 They went into the Greek and Hebrew, 28:19 it just made sense logically. 28:21 And so I was more attracted to that 28:24 and that's kind of where I started to move toward. 28:27 So your mom thought you were going crazy. 28:30 Yeah. So what did she say to you? 28:32 What happened after that? 28:33 Well, it's funny because 28:36 she actually set an appointment a week 28:38 after I started reading the Bible 28:39 and doing all these things. 28:41 She set an appointment for me to sit down with a priest. 28:43 So and he was a Filipino priest, 28:46 someone she knew. 28:47 And I was like, "Okay, I guess I'll do that." 28:52 And so I remember, 28:54 I studied harder than ever to prepare for that. 28:56 And I'm like, "Oh, this guy is a priest, 28:58 he knows the stuff." 28:59 So I remember, I typed seven pages of notes, 29:04 and I actually probably still have 29:05 those notes somewhere, 29:08 you know, laying around. 29:09 But seven pages of notes 29:10 of what I was starting to believe 29:12 and how I believed it... 29:14 How it made sense to me. 29:17 Yeah, and then I went to the church, 29:19 and had that one-on-one sit down. 29:21 Now, I got to ask you, 29:22 was this meeting with the priest 29:25 was he going to challenge you? 29:27 Was this like a test kind of a confrontation? 29:30 What was going to be the tenure of this meeting? 29:32 It was my mom told the priest 29:35 to basically bring me back to the Catholic church. 29:37 Okay, to kind of straighten you out. 29:38 Yes, yes. 29:40 And so I remember going there, 29:42 I sat down with him, it was a small room. 29:43 My mom was actually with me, I was glad about that. 29:46 So I could kind of share, and she would listen, 29:48 she actually listen. 29:49 And so the first thing I brought up 29:52 was Romans 3:23, 29:54 it says, "For all have sinned 29:55 and fallen short of the glory of God." 29:56 So why is it that we pray to other saints, 29:59 other people and that are also sinners? 30:02 And I remember his responses... 30:04 All his responses I felt kind of took away 30:08 from the Catholic belief in order to not sound wrong 30:12 or not contradict what I was saying. 30:15 And so he was like, 30:17 "Oh, well, we don't pray to them. 30:18 We just acknowledge them. 30:19 The same way you acknowledge your grandma, 30:21 there is a painting and you're acknowledging her." 30:24 But I'm like, you know, in my head, 30:26 I'm thinking there is prayers that actually say, 30:28 you know, the prayer to this saint, 30:30 the prayer to this saint, Hail Mary is a prayer. 30:33 But I didn't want to argue so I kind of left at that. 30:36 The next thing I brought up was 1 Timothy 2:5, 30:39 "For there is one God 30:40 and one mediator between God and man, 30:42 Jesus Christ." 30:43 And I'm like, why do we have to confess our sins, 30:46 you know, to a priest? 30:48 And he said, 30:51 "You don't confess your sins to us. 30:53 You just tell us your sins and we intercede for you." 30:56 And so that also 30:58 I knew took away from the Catholic belief. 31:02 And so, you know, but again, I didn't want to argue, 31:04 you know, I kind of left at that. 31:06 And the last thing I brought up was the Sabbath. 31:08 Why is it that the Sabbath was moved 31:11 from Saturday to Sunday? 31:14 You know, it's in history, why was it moved? 31:16 And he told... 31:17 His response to me was, "The Sabbath was always Sunday. 31:21 It was never changed." 31:22 And so after that, I'm like okay, 31:24 this guy does not know what he is talking about, 31:26 I'm just going to end it right here. 31:29 But, you know, my mom heard everything 31:31 and at the end he is like, 31:32 "Look, you have a New King James Bible anyway, 31:34 you need a Catholic Bible." 31:36 I remember taking the Bible home 31:38 and I compared, I'm like, 31:39 "Oh, well, maybe he just was answering 31:41 based on his Bible or whatever." 31:42 Verses were the same. 31:44 It was all the same, 31:45 there were certain changes 31:47 but in what I was sharing with him, 31:49 the texts were the same. 31:50 So yeah, that was... 31:53 That actually helped solidify my belief 31:55 that I was going in the right direction. 31:57 And it's interesting because the Catholic Church 31:59 actually admitted to changing the Sabbath to Sunday. 32:03 Right. Yeah, yeah. 32:04 He has gone against the dogma of his church fathers, 32:08 who proudly say, 32:10 "That shows how powerful 32:11 we are that we made that change." 32:13 So that really kind of locked you 32:15 into the fact that, 32:16 "Okay, it's time for me to make this change?" 32:17 Exactly. Yeah. Yeah. 32:19 Where did you go from there as far as pursuing Adventism? 32:22 Well, I ended up googling an Adventist Church. 32:25 I wanted to find an Adventist Church 32:28 that my mom would be most likely to attend. 32:31 And that would have be an Filipino church, 32:32 she is Filipino. 32:33 So I Googled Adventist Filipino church, 32:35 I had heard vaguely someone mentioned 32:37 that there was a Filipino Adventist Church. 32:40 I googled it, I went in, the first person I saw, 32:43 I said, I want to be baptized, he was one of the elders. 32:46 I just walked in and said, "I want to be baptized." 32:49 And I thought that was just normal, 32:50 you know, I was reading the Bible, I'm like... 32:53 And he was like, "Oh, okay, well, 32:55 the pastor is not here 32:56 and, you know, let me get on the phone with the pastor." 32:58 So he called the pastor, 32:59 pastor was at another church and... 33:02 And yeah, then I started a study 33:03 with the pastor. 33:05 And after a month, I was baptized on May 21st. 33:09 Praise the Lord. Praise the Lord. 33:11 You know, a couple of things popped into me. 33:12 Jason, I see with this, 33:14 we're going to be tight on time 'cause there's so much here. 33:16 You and your mom are pretty close, 33:18 and you seem to have a very caring nurturing relationship 33:20 as far as your mom is concerned. 33:22 When you left that Catholic priest, 33:24 what was your mother's take on that whole little deal 33:28 because obviously you filed this under, 33:30 "I got to get out of here." 33:31 You know, but where is she mentally 33:32 with this whole thing? 33:34 You know, that's a good question. 33:35 She actually left feeling disappointed 33:38 because she knew that some of the things 33:41 that he said were not in tune with the Catholic faith. 33:44 And so, she left disappointed, 33:46 she still wanted me to come back. 33:48 But that was her last resort, I guess. 33:51 And so, at that point, there was nothing 33:54 more that can be done, you know. 33:55 But, yeah, she left disappointed. 33:57 God bless her heart. 33:59 So now one month in, you're baptized and you're in. 34:03 How are you feeling about this new relationship? 34:06 I'm feeling good. 34:07 You know, it's... 34:08 I feel freedom, I feel, 34:10 I mean, just happier, 34:15 my countenance is different, my goals have changed. 34:19 I remember my goal before Christ was to... 34:23 I was very big in the business world 34:25 after that whole thing happened, 34:26 I was into sales, and I was like, 34:28 "Okay, you know..." 34:29 I listened to motivational speakers a lot. 34:30 I'm like my goal is to make a million dollars a year 34:32 at the age of 30 34:33 and to make it every year there on 34:35 for the rest of my life. 34:36 That was my goal. 34:37 I remember when I was converted, 34:40 I started studying the Bible, 34:42 I went back to same start books, 34:43 I wrote that goal down. 34:45 I went to that same book, I erased it and I put... 34:48 And I sat there for a while, and I prayed, 34:50 and I'm like to win a million souls for Christ 34:54 in my lifetime, 34:55 which was just crazy, 34:57 it's just crazy to think about 34:59 but having that there in the back of my mind, 35:03 it helps keep me focused, 35:05 you know, it helps keeps me remembering 35:07 what I am doing all this for, you know. 35:10 But yeah, I was gung-ho, 35:11 and I remember I had found a job, 35:13 and I was happy. 35:15 Actually, working at bank, ironic, 35:17 with felony of forgery charges, 35:19 you know, I was working at a bank. 35:22 It was expunged at that time. 35:24 And so, you know, and I had a good job, 35:27 22 years old, $50, 000 a year, desk, suit, tie, 35:31 I'm like, I was just on top of the world at that point. 35:34 Yeah, it was very good. 35:36 So then what happened, why did you leave the bank? 35:40 Or when did you leave the bank? What took place there? 35:43 Yeah, it's, you know, 35:44 I worked at the bank, it was good, 35:46 I got my license, 35:48 you know, they paid for me to get a license. 35:50 And I worked there, 35:52 you know, I started in June and then in August, 35:56 they had asked me to work on a Saturday. 35:59 Now my conviction on the Sabbath 36:01 wasn't fully there yet and so... 36:06 But I did go to the manager, 36:07 I did go to the assistant manager, 36:08 I said, "You know, I can't do that 36:11 because I'm the Adventist Christian whatever." 36:12 And they are like, 36:14 "Well, all bankers have to work 36:15 every other Sabbath now or whatever, 36:17 every other Saturday." 36:19 And so I ended up doing it. 36:22 The next month came September, October, November. 36:25 Actually, it was in September that happened. 36:28 In October, 36:30 you know, I felt conviction still, 36:32 I went to the district manager, 36:36 "Nothing we can do." 36:39 The next month November, I went to HR and to regional, 36:44 "Nothing we can do." 36:45 And so at that point, I'm like, 36:47 "Okay, I guess, you know, God..." 36:48 My rationalization was, "Well, God led me here, 36:51 so I'll donate the money I make on Saturday to God. 36:56 I'll witness to people at my desk, 36:57 you know, I'll make sure to be more intentional 36:59 about witnessing on Saturday." 37:00 You were trying to massage your way 37:01 through the thing, yeah. 37:03 Yeah, exactly. 37:04 And it wasn't until February of the next year 37:07 that something just clicked 37:09 and my relationship with God was just going downhill. 37:12 And I knew what it was, you know, 37:15 'cause, you know, you can repent for something, 37:19 you know, and feel better about it 37:20 and, you know, know that God has forgiven you. 37:23 But in this case, this was a scheduled sin, 37:26 it was something that was on my calendar. 37:29 I knew I can repent, 37:31 but then I knew two weeks later 37:32 I was going to do the same thing. 37:34 So my relationship, it was just going downhill, 37:36 I was hiding more and more from God. 37:38 And it wasn't until two friends came over that just something, 37:42 something clicked in me. 37:43 Yeah, yeah. 37:44 I'll have to move you along because there is so much here 37:47 because you eventually had to leave that job. 37:51 I did leave. I ended up going into work. 37:56 I have 500 bucks in the savings account. 37:58 I went into work, and I went to my... 38:01 This was very difficult for me, 38:03 you know, 22 years, no college degree, 38:04 this was my dream, that's what I wanted. 38:07 I love my job. 38:09 I went to my boss, and I said, "I can't do this anymore." 38:12 He is like, "What? Why can't you do?" 38:13 I'm like, "I can't keep working on the Sabbath, 38:16 you know, it's affecting my relationship with God." 38:19 And he is like, "Well, every banker has to do it, 38:21 you know, I don't know what to tell you." 38:23 "Okay, well, I resign, I'm done, you know." 38:27 And so he is like... 38:28 He was shocked and he responding, 38:30 he is like, "Type up your resignation then." 38:32 So I go to my desk. 38:35 I type up my resignation, I lay it on his desk, 38:40 I go to the bathroom, and I cry. 38:42 I cry for 5 to 10 minutes in the bathroom. 38:45 And I'm like, "God, what do I do?" 38:49 I have 500 bucks in the savings account, 38:51 I have $2, 000 worth of bills to pay, 38:53 I was living on my own at this point, 38:55 I had car payment, rent, 38:57 you know, I had all these things 38:59 I had to pay for, and I didn't know 39:01 what was going to happen after that. 39:02 That's a major step of faith. Absolutely. 39:04 It was very difficult but God got me through. 39:08 Yeah. 39:09 So continuing on, like, you were out of a job 39:14 but then how did you become employed again? 39:17 Did you get some other form of employment? 39:20 Yeah, you know, I didn't get a job 39:25 after that point 39:27 that could actually pay my bills for six months. 39:31 And it's crazy because God provided 39:33 every single time, 39:34 you know, just a quick example, the first month, 39:37 I had 500 bucks in the savings account, 39:40 I have 500 bucks that came from like sick 39:42 and vacation time or whatever. 39:44 I had a 1,000 bucks to make up. 39:46 On the last day of the month, 39:47 a 1, 000 dollar direct deposit hit my bank. 39:49 And I'm like, "Where did this come from?" 39:51 And it's like Chase. I'm like, "Chase? 39:53 Why are they paying me? I'm done, you know." 39:55 I called them up, and I find out. 39:57 And they are like, 39:58 "Oh, well, you worked four days in February 40:00 so what that means 40:02 so since you're still on the books for February, 40:04 all your customer and your clients 40:06 actually got products without you being there. 40:08 So you got paid $1,000 of commission." 40:10 More commission 40:11 than the other bankers that were there 40:12 the whole month while I was at home. 40:17 Wow. 40:18 And so God provided there, I'm like, yes. 40:20 And then, you know, next month I got a job as a dishwasher 40:23 making 500 bucks a month. 40:24 And God always made up the extra $1,500. 40:26 Another job the next month, 1,000 bucks a month, 40:28 God made up the 1,000. 40:30 It just continued 40:31 until finally two dentists called me up, 40:34 and I remember Dr. Neubrander's, 40:37 they called me up, 40:38 I just saw him the other day, we caught up. 40:40 They said, "We heard your testimony. 40:44 We know you don't have any experience 40:46 in dental assisting or whatever. 40:48 But we want to hire you as a dental assistant, 40:50 we'll pay you the amount of money 40:51 you need to survive." 40:53 And go from there. 40:54 Now you didn't go seeking this job, 40:56 this job kind of walked towards you. 40:57 They called me. Yeah. 40:59 They called me, yeah. It was crazy. 41:02 So how long were you at this position 41:04 and what happened there? 41:06 Yeah, I was there for about a year and half. 41:08 You know, at this time 41:09 I'm still in school getting my bachelor's 41:10 and all of that, you know. 41:12 So I was trying to balance all that, 41:14 SALT had started at that time. 41:16 And so, yeah, I was there for about year and half, 41:19 and then I had to end up quitting. 41:23 Again, I quit my job. 41:25 And the reason was because SALT 41:27 had its one year anniversary 41:29 and we had about 850 young adults come up 41:31 for an AY event that we were hosting, 41:33 the worship and everything. 41:35 And at that point SALT did not have structure, 41:37 you know, I was young... 41:39 I was 22, 23 when I started this organization. 41:41 I didn't know how to do any of that. 41:43 Now let's pivot hard in the direction of SALT. 41:46 First of all, where did it come from the idea, 41:48 and when it started, what did you have in mind 41:50 or what did God plant in you for SALT? 41:52 Because now you're doing 41:53 this whole dental assistance thing 41:55 but God's got a whole other agenda for you. 41:57 So let's kind of pivot in that direction, 41:59 where did it come from with the idea of doing what? 42:02 So SALT is an acronym for Service And Love Together. 42:06 The idea was... 42:08 And the reason why it sparked was because in the area, 42:11 the churches seemed 42:12 to all kind of like doing their own thing. 42:14 And we wanted to create something 42:16 where it would be able to unite the people in that area, 42:21 not just to unite them for worship but just to serve, 42:24 to make an impact in the community. 42:25 The second thing we saw a lack 42:27 of practical outreach being done, 42:29 community service being done, 42:31 and a lack of consistent outreach being done. 42:34 So relationships were not being built, 42:36 and we wanted to do Christ method of evangelism 42:38 which was creating those relationships. 42:40 Now this was you and a group of people, 42:41 something that started 42:43 kind of in your mind that you kind of, 42:44 let me use the word, infected others with? 42:46 Where was the genesis of that? 42:48 So it first was a thought that I had, 42:51 I shared it with two friends of mine 42:53 that were also leaders in the church 42:56 I was at that time. 42:57 And they helped kind of build it 43:00 from ground up, we made a name together, 43:03 we started, you know, 43:04 first couple of events together. 43:06 Our first event was in September of 2011. 43:11 And we had about 150 young adults come out 43:13 from different churches. 43:15 And then the next one was in November, 250. 43:17 And then, our year anniversary which is in September of 2012, 43:22 we had a 150 people come out. 43:24 So it was growing, it was growing. 43:27 So the idea was to get young people together 43:30 to make an impact outside 43:32 of the church in the community. 43:33 Exactly. Exactly. 43:35 What are some examples of how you have made an impact? 43:39 What are some of the things 43:40 that you do to reach the community? 43:42 So right now, we have a homeless outreach 43:47 that we do breakfast, 43:48 and now we're doing actually a dinner now 43:51 but we're doing dinner, 43:52 we have a clothing trailer called Change. 43:56 And so we're able to bring clothing 43:59 to the homeless downtown, 44:00 we find a lack of dress clothing 44:02 for the homeless there, they didn't have access to that 44:04 so we have that clothing trailer there. 44:06 And we're actually about to purchase a shower trailer 44:07 as well for the homeless. 44:09 So that the homeless can take a shower, 44:11 get changed, and then go to a job, 44:13 go do what they need to do, you know. 44:18 We're actually just pending 44:19 one donation, that's on its way, 44:22 once that donation comes, we're making that purchase. 44:24 I actually have a picture of a design 44:26 of that shower trailer too. 44:28 Yeah. 44:29 So it is something that's coming up. 44:31 While that picture is coming, 44:34 the idea behind SALT 44:36 then is active community involvement. 44:40 Yes. 44:41 Is there a spiritual component 44:43 as far as teaching is concerned, 44:44 or is this just really helping 44:45 those who cannot help themselves? 44:47 So there is a spiritual component. 44:49 Every year, we have an evangelistic series. 44:51 Our harvest director is Lo-Ammi Richardson. 44:53 And so we hop at different places to do 44:56 this evangelistic series to harvest the seeds 44:58 that were planted throughout the year. 45:00 So, for example, this year our goal 45:02 is to have an evangelistic series 45:04 for our homeless friends. 45:05 They all hangout around the library, 45:07 we're going to rent a room in the library 45:08 like a big conference room 100 people, have food, 45:12 and, you know, we'll be launching 45:14 our shower trailer at that time. 45:16 We'll be able to meet needs at the same time they can, 45:19 you know, sit for the evangelistic series 45:21 that we're going to be having, and go from there. 45:25 So that's kind of one of the ways 45:26 that we're doing that. 45:28 Let me ask, are those pictures ready 45:29 'cause I really want to go to those 45:30 and kind of take a look 45:32 at what we're dealing with here. 45:34 Particularly, that shower trailer. 45:36 There is the outline there. 45:38 It's four bathrooms, four showers, 45:42 and it's about $35,000, you know, the quote, 45:46 I think there is 38, yeah, $38,000 actually. 45:50 So that's kind of one of the programs, 45:52 I actually have a picture of the change trailer too. 45:53 So this is something you can just tow and... 45:57 So do you have a truck? 45:58 You're going to need a truck for this also? 46:00 We're going to need a truck. 46:02 We are going to need a truck 46:03 'cause our change trailer already 46:04 is being towed by a truck. 46:06 By a truck, so you need second one for this one. 46:07 Yeah, that's a big concern. 46:10 That's our change trailer, 46:11 that's one for the clothing for our homeless friends. 46:15 Yeah, it looks inside... 46:16 And we have some carpenters donate their time 46:18 and they designed it, it's like a big closet. 46:22 Yeah, but it's nice, it's nice. Praise the Lord. 46:25 And another program we're launching here... 46:27 This month actually we're launching, 46:29 in the midst of launching, 46:31 a tutoring program for kids in section A complex. 46:34 Yeah, that's kind of the list of our... 46:36 That first part it's kind of the homeless program, 46:38 how that's going to be designed, 46:40 under that is our tutoring program. 46:42 We hired a head tutor, 46:43 we have about three volunteer tutors 46:44 at the moment, 46:46 and we have 12 kids that we're working with, 46:48 working with their parents as well. 46:50 And we'll be focusing on Math and reading. 46:53 And we'll be tutoring right their in the club house 46:55 and in their community. 46:57 And we're also going to employ the high school students 47:00 in that community to also help tutor. 47:03 So they will be making money and also money will be going 47:05 to a scholarship fund for them. 47:07 So that the donations that go toward that, 47:11 I mean, not only they covering supplies 47:12 for tutoring program 47:13 but they are also helping a high school student 47:16 'cause we've seen... 47:17 We've been in that community for five, six years 47:19 and we've seen high school students 47:21 so much potential but they end up, 47:24 you know, one of them dropped out 47:26 and started selling drugs, you know. 47:28 And he is so smart, so much potential, 47:31 and we wanted to be able to find a way 47:33 to reach these kids 47:35 and also help 47:36 the high school students as well. 47:38 So... Couple of things. 47:39 And I see my time is slipping away from me, 47:41 but we spent a lot of time on your personal testimony 47:44 because I wanted to get to know 47:46 the man that God would plant this idea 47:49 in his mind because it's not revolutionary, 47:52 but it certainly is timely. 47:53 It is something that the world needs right now. 47:57 Are you 501c3? We are. 47:59 Okay, okay. 48:00 So we can donate to you 48:01 and get a little receipt for that kind of thing. 48:03 Exactly, yes. 48:04 And which is important, which is important. 48:06 Your basic area of function is where at this point in time? 48:12 We currently do not have an office. 48:15 We're working out of different places, 48:17 different churches, my apartment. 48:19 You know, but that is something we're looking toward to, 48:22 to have a place. 48:24 Yeah, yeah. Now you are working? 48:27 Yes. In school? 48:28 Yes. And doing SALT? 48:31 And the Lord is still squeezing that into 24 hours a day. 48:33 Yes, He is. Yes, He is. It's hard. 48:36 The master's program... 48:37 My master's is going to be a non-profit management. 48:39 I do graduate this December, 48:41 but it's definitely hard to juggle everything. 48:44 Yeah, very hard. 48:45 But we have about 20 leaders so dividing between all them 48:49 and as we get more leaders in, 48:51 it's kind of helping take the load off. 48:52 That's my next question. 48:54 So it's divided, the work is divided. 48:55 Yes. 48:57 You might have to write a book on time management. 48:58 Oh, I'm not the best at that yet. 49:01 I still have a long way to go. 49:03 I will say that the leaders, you know, I love all of them, 49:06 they put so much time, so much effort, 49:08 they are all lay people, all young adults. 49:11 And just their dedication to the ministry, 49:13 to help it run is just amazing, and it's helping a lot. 49:17 One of the things that I really love about SALT 49:19 is its practical Christianity. 49:22 You're not just saying, "Oh, I'll pray for you." 49:25 And leaving it at that, 49:26 you're meeting the people's needs, 49:28 you're establishing what their needs are, 49:30 and you're meeting them, 49:31 and you're ending in evangelism. 49:33 And I think that is just awesome 49:35 and so needed. 49:37 Well said, well said. 49:38 So basically, all of the people that are involved with SALT 49:40 at this point are volunteer individuals? 49:43 They are all volunteer. 49:44 We're paying a small stipend to our head tutor 49:48 to help the program keep running. 49:50 Besides that, ultimately 49:51 we do want to start paying people 49:53 when we can average 49:54 a good amount of donations per month 49:56 and make some income. 49:58 So right now your donations are really going back 50:00 into the infrastructure, and the hardware, 50:02 and the equipment that you need to run the program. 50:05 Every donation is going straight 50:07 to the work. 50:08 And I wanted to establish that that nobody is dipping in, 50:10 nobody is getting money out of this. 50:12 Your money is going back into buying stuff 50:15 that the community can use that, 50:16 that enhances the program of SALT. 50:18 Exactly, exactly, yeah. Yeah. Praise the Lord. 50:21 I do want to say, I want to thank the watchers, 50:24 the people who are watching this show 50:26 because of us being on here in last year, 50:28 talking about SALT and sharing what we do, 50:32 we brought in over $22,000 in donations 50:36 from people watching. 50:37 And one of those individuals donated $16,500. 50:42 And so, you know, I just... 50:44 She might be watching now, 50:46 you know, I just want to thank all of the donors 50:48 that have donated so far. 50:50 Yeah, yeah, and for which we praise the Lord. 50:52 But your goals are ambitious but they are God blessed. 50:57 You know, Jason, you're saying, 50:58 you're working on your master's now. 51:00 So we go from a guy 51:01 with a whole handful of felonies 51:03 to the founder of a ministry who God is using, 51:06 who has gone through his undergrad degree, 51:08 now in his graduate work and still carrying on his work 51:10 for the Lord. 51:12 You are a testament to the goodness of the Lord 51:15 and what God can do through a person 51:17 once you dedicate your life to them. 51:19 And it doesn't really matter, Jason, what your past is. 51:23 And you know this, 51:24 I'm not telling you that you don't know... 51:26 Absolutely. 51:27 That once you kind of make that pivot 51:28 and surrender to God, 51:30 God can take and do some stuff for you, 51:31 with you, to you, through you that will surprise even you. 51:34 Yes, that's right. Praise God. 51:36 Yeah. And SALT is a great thing. 51:37 Want to go right through the contact information. 51:40 And we're gonna leap over into our time a little bit 51:42 but this is a great ministry obviously, 51:45 one that deserves your prayers, and your financial support. 51:50 SALT is doing a great work, and it's something 51:51 that can be replicated in other areas. 51:55 So if you want to, one, 51:58 fund this or help with the funding, 52:00 two, you want to talk to Eric to try to see 52:02 how maybe you can do something 52:03 allied to this, or akin to this, 52:05 or parallel to this in your area, 52:07 here is the contact information that you need. 52:11 Service and Love Together or SALT for short is a youth 52:15 and young adult ministry 52:17 that reflects the character of Christ 52:19 through relational evangelism, 52:21 meeting the needs of others, equipping people for service, 52:25 and fostering spiritual growth. 52:27 To learn more about SALT, 52:29 visit their website SaltOutreach.org. 52:33 That's SaltOutreach.org. 52:36 Or call them at area code 52:37 (407) 712-0687. 52:43 You may also write to SALT, 52:45 136 Blue Pointe Way Apartment 360 52:49 in Altamonte Springs, Florida 32701. |
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