People Just Like Us

God's Exceptional Leader

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00:03 Were the people in the Bible any different to us today?
00:10 Or ordinary people like you and me?
00:22 What can we find out
00:23 from their lives that will help us?
00:29 Find out with Pastor Geoff Youlden
00:31 and Rosemary Malkiewycz
00:32 here on People Just Like Us.
00:38 There are leaders and then there are leaders.
00:42 Some are of good influence
00:43 and laid to blessing and prosperity
00:46 while others are not.
00:48 And take people down the road to immorality, bondage,
00:52 materialism, and all manner of evil.
00:56 Today, Pastor Geoff is going to talk about a leader
00:59 who is different to all others.
01:01 And who is directed by God
01:03 to bring His people out of hardship and domination.
01:07 Welcome, Pastor Geoff.
01:08 Thank you very much, Rosemary.
01:10 Today, I wanna talk about
01:12 one of the most amazing women in the Bible.
01:16 Not a well-known woman, by the way.
01:18 As far as women are concerned,
01:20 there are other women in Bible history
01:23 that would be much more well-known.
01:26 But I'm talking about Deborah.
01:29 Deborah, yes.
01:30 She is probably the only woman in the entire Bible
01:35 who was an absolute leader of God's people
01:38 and God appointed.
01:41 He certainly did
01:42 'cause she was a prophet or prophetess.
01:44 So God must have laid her.
01:47 Yes, well, as we study this story today,
01:50 I think we're gonna see some wonderful things.
01:53 You know, someone has said
01:55 there are only three types of people in the world.
01:58 Those who watch what is happening,
02:01 those who make things happen,
02:03 and those who scratch their heads and ask,
02:06 "Hey! What is happening?"
02:09 The ability to make things happen
02:11 is really a gift of leadership.
02:13 It was Arnold Toynbee,
02:15 who once observed that the rise and fall of societies
02:19 has a one-to-one correlation
02:21 with the quality of its leadership,
02:24 which I think, Rosemary, is hardly encouraging
02:27 for our western society today, is it?
02:30 No, because there aren't a lot of good leaders.
02:32 That's why we're in the mess that we're in.
02:34 And it seems that
02:36 our leadership as such is in decline everywhere,
02:41 including even in the church.
02:44 We seem to be drifting.
02:46 And when the church has a leader with vision
02:48 and is able to articulate those goals
02:50 and lead the church, it will always grow.
02:54 And the same is true in our homes.
02:56 Too many homes are simply drifting
02:59 and no one is giving a decisive lead.
03:01 I mean, parents abdicate
03:03 their responsibility of leadership.
03:05 Disaster always takes over in our homes.
03:08 There are so many homes today where the father has abdicated
03:13 his leadership role
03:14 and he's the one who is supposed to do that,
03:16 father is not even there.
03:18 Yes.
03:19 Or he just doesn't do the leading
03:21 and the mother has to do it.
03:23 Yes.
03:24 And so their homes become dysfunctional
03:26 and that leads to a dysfunctional society.
03:28 Well, that wasn't the way God made, intended it to be.
03:30 No, it isn't.
03:31 Adam was to be the head of the home.
03:34 And when that is the case today,
03:37 the man is in charge then
03:40 I think the home is better.
03:42 Now that's doesn't mean to say
03:43 that the women doesn't play
03:45 a very, very, very important role.
03:47 But her role is not to be...
03:49 A father.
03:50 The father, that's right.
03:51 That's a good way of putting it, Rosemary.
03:53 I like it.
03:54 Well, today, we're looking at Deborah,
03:56 God's exceptional leader.
03:58 And she is the only woman in biblical history
04:00 who has a major God-given leadership role.
04:04 And so that immediately marks her out as a very,
04:07 very exceptional woman, a gifted individual,
04:10 and a leader of distinction.
04:12 Now we catch up with her in Judges 4.
04:16 And if you have your Bible as you're listening,
04:20 then I'd like to encourage you to turn it up.
04:23 If you haven't,
04:24 then we are going to put the words on the screen.
04:27 This is where it says in
04:29 Judges 4:1.
04:34 "When Ehud was dead, the children of Israel
04:36 again did evil in the sight of the Lord."
04:39 You know, Rosemary, as you read the Book of Judges,
04:43 that is a recurring thing that goes over
04:46 and over and over again.
04:48 Yes.
04:49 "The children of Israel did evil
04:51 in the sight of the Lord."
04:52 They would be good for a while
04:54 and then they would turn to evil
04:55 because we are like sheep
04:56 and we follow whoever is around at the time.
04:59 I mean, Othniel dies
05:00 and then they all start doing badly.
05:02 When Joshua was alive,
05:04 they were all following God
05:05 and as soon as Joshua and the judges
05:07 that were there with him or the elders,
05:09 the people turned away
05:11 and went into idolatry,
05:12 and so God had to keep sending a leader back
05:15 to try and bring them back to following Him.
05:17 Well, that's really the story of judges, isn't it?
05:18 Leader after leader.
05:20 But this too goes on to say,
05:22 "So the Lord sold them
05:24 into the hand of Jabin king of Canaan..."
05:27 Now, this is what we read over and over again.
05:29 They did evil in the sight of the Lord.
05:31 So therefore, as a result of the Lord
05:33 allowed them to go into captivity
05:35 or needed to be put under...
05:39 Rulership by another... Rulership by a foreign power...
05:42 Who oppressed them.
05:44 Absolutely.
05:45 "And this is certainly true of Jabin,
05:47 king of Canaan, who reigned in Hazor.
05:50 The commander of his army was Sisera,
05:52 who dwelt in Harosheth Hagoyim.
05:56 And the children of Israel cried out to the Lord,
05:59 for Jabin had nine hundred chariots of iron,
06:03 and for twenty years he had harshly oppressed
06:06 the children of Israel."
06:08 So there it is in this story...
06:10 over and over again.
06:13 And... Twenty years.
06:15 It's a long time. Definitely.
06:18 And you would think that they would learn
06:19 the lesson, wouldn't you?
06:21 Oh, well, they've been through it
06:23 a couple of times before with Othniel and Ehud.
06:26 Well, as you read the biblical history,
06:30 it's just a tragic story.
06:31 It reminds of that statement over here in the Gospel of John
06:36 where Jesus made a statement
06:38 in John Chapter 8:34.
06:44 And I'm sure you know this statement
06:45 very well, Rosemary.
06:47 "Jesus answered them, 'Most assuredly, I say to you,
06:50 whoever commits sin
06:52 is a slave of sin.'"
06:54 Mm-hmm.
06:55 In other words,
06:58 the world says and the devil says, "Look...
07:04 follow me and it's liberating.
07:06 You'll have the time of your life."
07:09 But an actual fact that Jesus said
07:11 sin seems to be all right
07:13 to begin with but it always bites
07:14 like an adder.
07:17 And the children of Israel
07:18 found this over and over again.
07:20 And you know, the devil says
07:21 that this idea of old-fashioned morality,
07:24 it's out of diagonal.
07:25 Yes, you want freedom. Freedom.
07:27 Yeah, that's the cry of today.
07:29 Another thing in the Book of Judges
07:31 is that the people...
07:32 It describes the people.
07:34 It says, "Every person did that
07:36 which was right in their own eye.
07:39 Not what was right as far as God is concerned,
07:42 but in their own eyes."
07:43 And when you do that,
07:44 you're always going to run into trouble
07:46 because the Bible also says that
07:48 the heart is deceitful above all things.
07:51 That's right.
07:52 So the story starts off here
07:54 in Judges in the fourth chapter
07:56 by illustrating that
07:58 if you follow and disobey God,
08:01 follow Baal in this particular case
08:03 and disobey God,
08:04 then judgment will always come.
08:07 And it came pretty heavily on the children of Israel
08:10 here because the Bible says
08:12 they were oppressed for 20 years.
08:16 And by the way,
08:17 this oppression,
08:19 if you have a look at this 13,
08:21 this is Chapter 4 of Judges and verse 13,
08:25 it says, "So Sisera
08:27 gathered together all his chariots,
08:30 nine hundred chariots of iron."
08:34 Now that I guess
08:36 doesn't seem a lot as far as our world is concerned
08:40 when it comes to...
08:42 Weapons? The weapons?
08:43 No, but back in those days,
08:46 they were the only ones who had these chariots of iron.
08:49 Could you imagine 900 chariots
08:51 and horses and riders coming for you?
08:54 When all the people have was swords and so forth.
08:57 And some of them didn't even have that.
08:59 It would be a bit like America
09:01 taking one of the small Pacific islands.
09:04 I mean,
09:06 they just didn't have a show.
09:07 And Israel didn't have a show here
09:10 against these 900 chariots of iron.
09:15 And in 5:8,
09:19 Deborah makes the statement.
09:21 She says, "They chose new gods,
09:25 then there was war in the gates..."
09:27 You know, they chose to follow
09:28 the gates of the gods of Canaan.
09:33 "There was war then in the gates,
09:35 not a shield or spear
09:37 was seen among forty thousand in Israel."
09:40 So you can imagine how helpless they were
09:42 against these 900 iron chariots.
09:45 And...
09:46 They didn't have a shield or spear among 40,000 people.
09:50 Yes.
09:51 I mean, that's warriors.
09:53 That's not just the women and children.
09:54 Well, so they were helpless.
09:57 And really the problem here, as we read the story,
10:00 is not really a military problem.
10:02 It was a spiritual problem
10:03 with the children of Israel
10:05 because
10:08 they didn't need an iron smelter.
10:10 What they needed was trust in God.
10:12 That's right.
10:13 And this is the story of judges.
10:15 When the people trusted in God, God fought them in.
10:18 There are so many illustrations in the Bible
10:20 like the story of Jericho.
10:23 Mm-hmm.
10:24 The children of Israel didn't have to fight
10:27 the people of Jericho, did they?
10:29 No, they didn't.
10:31 They just marched around the city.
10:32 They just did what God said. Yes, marched around.
10:33 And the walls came tumbling down.
10:36 And so it is that when we allow
10:40 the Lord to lead us,
10:41 we can trust Him and the children of Israel
10:43 at this stage had little trust.
10:45 No faith in God whatsoever.
10:48 I think of Hezekiah,
10:52 when he was being attacked
10:53 and he had letter from his enemies,
10:55 he just placed it before God.
10:57 He actually put it on the ground
10:58 in the temple and said,
11:00 "Lord, look at this."
11:02 And God fought for them
11:03 and then when Jehoshaphat
11:05 was being surrounded and threatened,
11:08 he went to God and God told him,
11:10 "Don't worry. I'll take care of you."
11:12 So when he went out to war,
11:13 he actually put the singers in the front
11:14 singing praise hymns to God.
11:17 And God wiped out the enemies
11:19 and Jehoshaphat never had to fight.
11:21 It's a strange war
11:23 when you have the choir out front.
11:24 By putting God first,
11:26 their enemies were defeated by God.
11:27 That's right. Correct.
11:29 Well, this is the lesson
11:30 that so far the children of Israel
11:31 haven't learned in Judges.
11:34 And then God did an amazing thing.
11:35 An incredible thing, actually.
11:38 He didn't choose a man
11:40 like He did later by the name of Samson or Gideon.
11:45 When you read about these men's characters,
11:47 and we may talk about them a little bit later
11:49 in our program.
11:50 He didn't choose a man.
11:52 This time He did something
11:53 right out of left field,
11:55 and He chose a woman.
11:57 And Deborah became the leader in Israel.
12:02 She was the charge.
12:03 She was the one in charge. Yes.
12:05 In fact, if you have a look at
12:06 Chapter 4 of Judges.
12:11 And if we have a look
12:12 at verses 4 onwards here, `it says,
12:16 "Now Deborah, a prophetess, the wife of Lapidoth,
12:20 was judging Israel at that time."
12:22 So she was a prophetess
12:24 and she was judging Israel, yes.
12:27 "And she would sit under the palm tree of Deborah
12:30 between Ramah and Bethel in the mountains of Ephraim.
12:34 And the children of Israel came up to her for judgment.
12:37 Then she sent and called for Barak,
12:39 the son of Abinoam from Kedesh in Naphtali,
12:43 and said to him,
12:44 'Has not the Lord God of Israel commanded,
12:47 'Go and deploy troops at Mount Tabor,
12:50 take with you ten thousand men
12:51 of the sons of Naphtali and of the sons of Zebulun,
12:55 and against you I will deploy Sisera,
12:58 the commander of Jabin's army, with his chariots,
13:01 that is these 900 iron chariots,
13:04 and his multitude at the River Kishon,
13:06 and I will deliver him into your hand?'"
13:08 There's the promise.
13:10 God says, "So I'm gonna deliver him into your hand."
13:13 And Barak said to her, "If you will go with me,
13:16 then I will go.
13:18 But if you will not go with me, I will not go."
13:22 It's like he didn't really trust
13:24 what Deborah was saying to him.
13:27 I mean God said,
13:28 "You go, and he'll have
13:30 all these chariots and multitude
13:32 and I will deliver him into your hand."
13:34 And Barak says,
13:36 "Well, Deborah, I'm not going if you don't go."
13:37 I mean he was a little bit frightened, wasn't he?
13:41 But God called him...
13:42 He was a bit of scaredy-cat at this stage.
13:43 But God called him to a work.
13:46 Yeah, and verse 9 says, "So she said,
13:48 'I will surely go with you,
13:51 nevertheless there will be no glory for you
13:54 in the journey you are taking,
13:55 for the Lord will sell Sisera into the hand of a woman.'
14:00 Then Deborah arose and went with Barak to Kedesh."
14:04 Now we've got to understand
14:05 how that would be a real put down
14:07 for that man.
14:09 For the Lord is gonna deliver a woman.
14:13 Because...
14:14 And we got to understand the times.
14:16 It's not that God depreciated women
14:18 and we're not, certainly not depreciating women,
14:20 but we got to understand the times.
14:22 The Bible was written in a history,
14:24 in a capsule of time.
14:26 And women back in those days
14:28 were never looked upon as being the leaders.
14:31 Which is amazing that Deborah was.
14:33 Yes, and God selected her.
14:35 But for women to actually be prophesied is the one
14:38 who is going to deliver Israel
14:43 was quite amazing.
14:45 Yes, well, as we read here,
14:48 Rosemary, the first thing that she was a prophetess,
14:52 which means
14:54 that she foretold the future.
14:56 She was a preacher of encouragement
15:00 as a prophet does.
15:01 And she was a very, very good prophetess.
15:05 And she received these revelations from God.
15:08 Actually there were only three people,
15:10 three women in the Old Testament
15:12 who were prophetesses.
15:15 There was Miriam, wasn't,
15:17 Miriam in the time of Moses,
15:19 sister of Moses.
15:21 And then there was Huldah
15:22 in the time of Josiah, wasn't it?
15:25 And then, of course,
15:27 Deborah in the time of judges.
15:30 But there were lots of prophets though.
15:32 Lot of prophets, yes.
15:33 So... Sometimes, they're not even named.
15:35 It just says a prophet of God.
15:36 Yes, and in the New Testament,
15:40 there's only really a very few exceptions.
15:44 There's first of all, Anna.
15:45 Seven daughters were prophets, prophetesses.
15:48 Remember Anna was at the birth of Jesus
15:50 and prophesied about His...
15:53 The baby, Jesus.
15:54 Well, she was in the temple.
15:56 And then, of course, as you said,
15:58 there were the daughters of Philip.
16:00 Once again, exceptions.
16:03 It seems to me that
16:05 when men don't rise to the occasion,
16:07 God has selected women.
16:10 And it is being the exception, but nevertheless,
16:13 it has been the truth,
16:14 down truth through the years.
16:16 It has happened. Yes.
16:17 And it's interesting that in the last days,
16:20 I was just reading Peter's sermon
16:23 on the day of Pentecost
16:24 in the Acts Chapter 2.
16:27 When he talks about in the last days
16:29 there's going to be the gift of prophecy.
16:31 He's going to be part of a church too.
16:35 Let me just read it to you.
16:36 Here in Acts Chapter 2,
16:39 and we'll pick it up in verse 17.
16:42 It says, "It shall come to pass..."
16:44 Of course, Peter here is quoting Joel.
16:47 "And it shall come to pass in the last days,
16:50 says God,
16:52 that I will pour out of My Spirit on all flesh
16:55 and your sons and your daughters
16:58 shall prophesy."
17:00 So it's not unusual for a woman to have the gift of prophecy.
17:04 And particularly in the last days,
17:06 here the Bible predicted that
17:08 that gift was going to be given to a woman.
17:14 "Your young men shall see visions,
17:16 your old men shall dream dreams.
17:18 And on My menservants and on My maidservants
17:22 I will pour out My Spirit in those days,
17:25 and they shall prophesy."
17:28 So once again,
17:29 we see very clearly that in the last days,
17:32 this gift is going to be restored again
17:36 and with women...
17:37 That's right.
17:39 Which is very interesting.
17:40 And then back in Judges as we read before,
17:43 she was also a judge,
17:46 which mean that she was the center
17:47 of the political arrangements
17:50 in Israel at the time.
17:52 And the people came to her
17:53 to receive judgment on different matters.
17:55 Yes, yes.
17:57 And so it's wonderful
18:00 that this woman led out in such amazing faith.
18:03 And you can see why God selected her
18:05 because she was a woman of faith
18:07 and confidence and trust in God.
18:09 Well, she had to be because she did go with Barak.
18:12 Yes, yes.
18:14 She didn't say, "Oh, no, no, no."
18:16 She said, "Okay."
18:18 Look, I picked up...
18:20 I don't often read paraphrases
18:22 because a paraphrase
18:23 is not always a 100% accurate translation,
18:27 but I picked up this clear wood.
18:30 And Deborah wrote a song
18:35 and it's recorded in the fifth chapter
18:38 of Judges and it says,
18:40 "That was the day that Deborah, the prophetess,
18:43 and Barak, the son of Abinoam,
18:45 praised the Lord and sang this song: 'Praise the Lord!
18:48 She says.
18:49 When the leaders in Israel took the initiative
18:51 and the Lord blessed them and they gladly volunteered."
18:54 In other words,
18:57 when they took the initiative
18:59 and were strong in the Lord.
19:00 "Listen all you kings!
19:02 Give us your attention all you rulers!
19:03 We will sing to the Lord.
19:05 We will play music to the God of Israel.
19:07 The Lord went before us
19:09 as He did in the mountainous region of Sinai
19:11 when our fathers came up out of Egypt.
19:13 He marched ahead of us
19:15 as He did when we came into the region of Edom.
19:17 This time He shook Mount Tabor.
19:20 He sent mighty rains from heaven.
19:22 Just as the mountains shook before the Lord at Sinai,
19:27 so the earth shook
19:28 at the presence of the God of Israel
19:29 against Sisera."
19:31 You can see what she's doing here.
19:32 She is recounting how when we trust the Lord,
19:35 how the Lord has worked on our behalf.
19:37 And she is going through this wonderful song.
19:41 And she says in verse 8,
19:43 "War had come to the land
19:45 because Israel had gone after other gods.
19:48 Cities came under siege
19:50 and there was fighting in the gates.
19:52 Not a spear or a shield was found
19:54 among forty thousand men of Israel.
19:56 They were forbidden to make weapons of war.
19:59 Our hearts go out to leaders like Barak
20:01 and to the volunteers who followed him.
20:04 Praise the Lord
20:05 for their faith and courage!"
20:07 Isn't that good?
20:08 And you can see why the Lord selected her.
20:11 And verse 11 says here,
20:14 "They tell each other about the victories of the Lord
20:17 and the courage of their men in battle."
20:20 So there's another important
20:22 that we ought to be reciting to one another,
20:25 how the Lord has blessed
20:26 and has worked on our behalf
20:27 because that encourages others.
20:29 That's right.
20:30 When we remember
20:31 things that God has done in the past for us,
20:34 it encourages us to go through the things in the future
20:36 even the things that are happening now.
20:38 And then finally in verse 31, it says,
20:40 "Lord, may all your enemies perish like Sisera.
20:43 But may those who love you shine as the rising sun.
20:47 So there was peace in Israel
20:49 for the next forty years."
20:50 Good. So see what happens.
20:52 When a person obeys and follows God,
20:55 then God blesses them
20:56 and they had peace in Israel for the next 40 years.
21:00 And God wants to bless us with peace.
21:02 He wants to bless us with prosperity
21:05 not necessarily in financial terms
21:07 but in our lives of having a good life,
21:11 having a peaceful life,
21:12 having our children have peace in their lives.
21:16 Yes.
21:18 A lot of it depends
21:19 on whether or not we're going to follow God
21:21 or we're gonna turn against Him.
21:22 Rosemary, I guess that's the really the story of judges.
21:26 And I'd like to encourage all our viewers
21:28 to pick the little Book of Judges up
21:30 and read it through.
21:32 There's so much wonderful material
21:35 of how if we trust in the Lord
21:37 and have faith in Him,
21:38 even when our backs are against the wall
21:41 as often that was the case with Israel,
21:43 God still intervened. That's right.
21:45 And I guess the issue is,
21:48 are we going to learn that trust.
21:50 We need it today.
21:52 Well, it's the most difficult thing
21:53 for us to learn.
21:55 You know faith is easy to talk about
21:59 but it's very, very difficult to practice
22:02 when the issue is really hot.
22:05 Yes, like with Barak.
22:06 He had to learn to trust.
22:07 Yes.
22:09 Then God intervened in a marvelous way.
22:12 Sisera was actually running away from God's people
22:16 and he stumbled into a tent of a non-Israelite
22:19 named Jael
22:21 where he expected to find safety.
22:23 Now, we're not told why she acted the way
22:26 she did as the Bible gives us no reason.
22:30 But it's very ironic
22:31 I think that it wasn't valiant soldier like Barak
22:35 who conquered the great general, Sisera.
22:37 It was a pagan woman
22:39 who killed him while he slept.
22:41 And I can't believe that she did that
22:43 because as a woman
22:45 I couldn't do it.
22:46 I mean, the Bible says that...
22:50 Well, first of all, he asked for water
22:52 and she gave him milk.
22:54 Milk wouldn't quench his thirst as much as water would,
22:57 but milk would help him to sleep better.
22:59 So...
23:01 Probably it's a good observation, Rosemary.
23:02 So I would say she probably gave him the milk
23:05 to get him to sleep
23:06 'cause he would have been exhausted.
23:09 But the milk would have helped him in a deeper sleep
23:11 because she had an ulterior motive.
23:13 Yes.
23:14 But then it says that she came in softly
23:17 with a tent peg and a hammer
23:20 and drove the tent peg
23:23 into his temple
23:24 and it went down into the ground
23:26 and she fastened him to the ground
23:29 with this tent peg through his temple.
23:32 Oh, I just...
23:33 To me I just couldn't even begin to imagine
23:36 doing something like that.
23:38 Even to an enemy,
23:40 I'd be too frightened.
23:41 I mean, what if he had it waken up,
23:43 if he wasn't in a deep enough sleep.
23:46 She would've been killed.
23:48 I guess that she made sure the first hit was considerable.
23:53 She must have.
23:54 It's just beyond me
23:56 that a woman could actually do something like that.
23:58 Yeah.
23:59 I guess also that he would have thought that the milk was...
24:02 I mean that would have been expensive for her to supply
24:04 because that would be from
24:06 one of the animals or sheep or something.
24:08 And he would have thought that that was really been,
24:11 honoring him.
24:12 Yes, indeed.
24:14 Yes, but I think she was trying to make sure he's asleep.
24:18 Well, once again, it's the story of judges
24:21 how that every time
24:24 the people trusted in God,
24:26 God delivered them
24:27 and here in this particular case
24:29 in a most unusual way.
24:31 God used a foreign woman... Correct.
24:34 And as Deborah had said,
24:36 Barak didn't receive the glory
24:39 for the death of Sisera.
24:41 Yes.
24:43 It was this woman who actually was married
24:45 to a relative of Moses.
24:48 Yes.
24:50 When you read these stories,
24:52 because sometimes people have difficulty
24:54 with some of the stories
24:56 like the one we're accounting now.
24:58 But we've got to remember
25:00 that God had His hand in things.
25:04 While God didn't do it,
25:06 God allowed the circumstances to arise
25:09 because that was the culture of the day.
25:11 There was nothing unusual about that
25:13 with the culture of the day.
25:15 And we've got to remember
25:16 that the Bible was written in a certain culture.
25:18 A certain history
25:21 that people acted like that.
25:25 It's not always nice and it's not always good.
25:28 And it's not always God's way,
25:31 but nevertheless God allows
25:33 these things to happen
25:34 so that His people can be delivered.
25:36 And there are so many stories, we mentioned Jericho before.
25:39 I mean, it was never God's intention
25:41 that Israel fights the Canaanites.
25:44 God was going to do all of that.
25:46 Bible never says that they were to go out and fight.
25:49 But when they didn't trust in God,
25:53 then they were put to the sword.
25:55 And in the stories here over and over
25:57 and over and over again
25:59 we read how they were
26:02 beaten into submission
26:04 over that long period of time.
26:06 So what's the message for us, Rosemary?
26:10 That God has His leaders
26:12 and the world has leaders,
26:14 and God's leaders will lead us the right way
26:16 and the worldly ones will not.
26:19 Yes, and the personal message is that I've got to learn
26:21 to trust in God
26:24 when things are difficult.
26:25 All very well, first to sit here
26:27 and talk about trusting in God.
26:28 That's easy.
26:30 But when the difficult time comes,
26:32 that's when it's very, very difficult.
26:34 That's right.
26:35 And in those times,
26:37 during the easy times,
26:38 we have to learn to trust God
26:40 so that we will be able to go through the hard times.
26:42 That's where recounting as they did in this song
26:46 after the deliverance.
26:48 They talked about the things
26:49 that happened before their time
26:51 as well as in their time
26:53 recounting the things
26:54 that God had done for His people
26:56 and how He had delivered them
26:58 so they could remember.
27:00 So that when difficulties come,
27:02 they have something an anchor.
27:05 And we have to do the same in our own lines.
27:08 What I will be like when the big issues come
27:12 is really being determined by what I am now
27:15 in the little things.
27:16 Even Jesus said,
27:17 "He that's faithful in the little things
27:19 or the least things
27:20 will be faithful in the bigger things."
27:22 And so, these little tests
27:24 that come along to us day-by-day
27:27 ought to be illustrations to us
27:30 of where we stand spiritually ourselves.
27:32 That's right.
27:33 We're looking at Deborah today.
27:35 And Deborah trusted God.
27:37 Deborah was a prophet of God.
27:40 Let's decide that we're gonna trust God
27:42 and not be wandering like Barak.
27:45 But to put our trust fully into God now,
27:48 so in the bad times we will still follow Him.
27:50 God bless you.


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