3ABN On the Road

True Disciples

Three Angels Broadcasting Network

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Participants: Pr. David Asscherick

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00:59 We have a very special friend of 3ABN.
01:05 She's Danny's sister
01:08 and she always is a blessing to me.
01:10 I love the songs that she sings.
01:12 She sings the songs that I grew up on.
01:16 And she's-- Tammy, come on out.
01:17 She's going to minister to us a beautiful song this morning.
01:21 She's gonna sang, sing, 'This world is not my home.'
01:24 Mollie, I heard a rumor.
01:25 What rumor did you hear?
01:27 I heard that you were nervous
01:28 that you didn't know if I was here or not
01:29 and that you're just gonna have to talk a few more minutes.
01:31 Well, I was looking for you because I knew
01:34 that when they started playing the music
01:36 to, 'This world is not my home,'
01:38 that I could just snap my fingers or something.
01:40 But when God graced people
01:43 with the ability to carry a tune,
01:45 I must have been in another room.
01:47 I am so glad you're here.
01:52 I want to say a hello to a dear friend of mine
01:55 that lives in Walla Walla, Washington.
01:57 And you know, this world is kind of a struggle
02:00 and we have a lot of things that we have to endure.
02:03 And how could we ever do without friends?
02:06 We know that our heavenly Father
02:08 is our heavenly Friend,
02:10 but we need friends here on earth too.
02:12 And so I have a good one in her,
02:14 and I want to say hello to her
02:15 and I want to say good morning to you all.
02:17 And I hope you enjoy this song.
02:30 This world is not my home
02:35 I'm just a-passing through
02:40 My treasures are laid up
02:45 Somewhere beyond the blue
02:49 The angels beckon me
02:54 From heaven's open door
02:59 And I can't feel at home
03:03 In this world anymore
03:11 Oh Lord, You know
03:14 I have no friend like you
03:17 If heaven's not my home
03:20 Lord, Lord what will I do?
03:24 The angels beckon me
03:27 From heaven's open door
03:29 And I can't feel at home
03:32 In this world anymore
03:41 Just over in glory land
03:43 We'll live eternally
03:47 The saints on every hand
03:50 Are shouting victory
03:53 Their songs of sweetest praise
03:56 Drift back from heaven's shore
03:59 And I can't feel at home
04:02 In this world anymore
04:07 Oh Lord, You know
04:10 I have no friend like you
04:13 If heaven's not my home
04:16 Lord, Lord what will I do?
04:20 The angels beckon me
04:23 From heaven's open door
04:25 And I can't feel at home
04:29 In this world anymore
04:34 They're all expecting me
04:36 And that's one thing I know
04:40 My savior pardoned me
04:43 And now I onward go
04:46 I know He'll take me through
04:49 Though I am weak and poor
04:52 And I can't feel at home
04:55 In this world anymore
04:59 The angels beckon me
05:02 From heaven's open door
05:04 And I can't feel at home
05:08 In this world anymore.
05:18 Amen.
05:24 I always appreciate her soft gentle voice.
05:28 She just ministers the song and touches people.
05:31 You know, I've asked David to come on out
05:33 because I know
05:35 that he doesn't need much of an introduction.
05:37 Besides being seen on 3ABN
05:40 and everybody knows him and loves him,
05:42 I just wanted to mention to--
05:43 Do you love me too Mollie? I do.
05:45 And there's not a thing you can do about it.
05:49 I just love him to pieces
05:51 and he touches and ministers to people
05:54 that others can't reach.
05:56 My son, Jeremy.
05:58 How many of you will pray for Jeremy for me?
06:01 You know, he is watching today.
06:03 And he, I told him
06:05 David Asscherick's going to be speaking at 10:30.
06:09 He said, "Oh, David!
06:10 Yeah, I'll come and watch David,"
06:11 because this is one of the few people
06:13 that he really has ministered to God.
06:15 Keep Jeremy in your prayers.
06:16 He is a loved young man.
06:18 David not only is one of the mini-ministers
06:22 that we have here on 3ABN,
06:24 but he is the president and founder of ARISE institute.
06:27 ARISE institute is a training centre
06:30 for angelist.
06:31 Now occasionally,
06:33 we will be out at GYC or at other locations
06:36 and we will tape young men.
06:38 And we will watch them and we will say,
06:40 "Mmm, I know where he went to school."
06:43 Because something that we have found that is,
06:46 you know, the greatest form of flattery is what?
06:51 Imitation.
06:52 And so David, I want you to know
06:53 you're training up a group of young men and women
06:56 that are touching the whole world
06:58 with the power of the Lord Jesus Christ
07:00 and we appreciate you for that.
07:01 Praise God. Thank you, Mollie.
07:03 Well, don't you love her voice?
07:04 Yes!
07:06 Mollie, is that your voice
07:07 that's on the answer machine when you call 3ABN?
07:09 Yes, sometimes I call just to listen to it.
07:14 You have reached 3ABN.
07:16 I'm just--
07:18 Now, lady, you know,
07:19 the lady will come on and say, you know,
07:21 "Is there anything that I can do to help you?"
07:22 No, just put me back on that answering machine.
07:26 I just, I absolutely love her voice, it is so sweet.
07:30 I just-- she should do like some, reading
07:32 of children's books or something.
07:35 I tell you, she just has the most lovely voice,
07:37 record them and make them available
07:39 for those of us with children.
07:40 My children would love that.
07:42 It's a great privilege to be with you here
07:44 again this morning.
07:49 Did I get that right? Yeah.
07:52 Good.
07:54 Have you recovered from yesterday's seminar?
07:56 Yes. Right.
07:58 I told you that yesterday
07:59 was just the setup punch, right.
08:02 The knock out punch is today
08:04 and it looks like some of you
08:06 are just absolute gluttons for punishment.
08:11 You have chosen to come knowing good and well
08:15 that you will be afflicted in your comfortability, right,
08:18 your comfortness.
08:20 And I am looking forward to our presentation today,
08:23 as I said you yesterday
08:24 and I say this with complete transparency
08:26 and complete candor
08:28 that I have a real burden on my heart.
08:30 I have a huge burden on my heart
08:33 about the condition of our churches.
08:35 And you all said amen to that yesterday
08:37 and then I quickly reminded you that you are the churches.
08:39 Amen. Amen.
08:41 I am not talking about a roofing problem
08:43 or a carpet color,
08:44 I mean, we have some real issues
08:46 that we need to address in our churches.
08:48 And I think from my study of the word
08:51 that fundamental to many of the issues
08:53 that we are encountering
08:54 is that we have left the missionary spirit
08:57 for a mere membership model.
09:01 And that's what we are talking about.
09:03 As I said yesterday
09:04 and I make no apologies for this.
09:06 You could throw a hand grenade into many of our churches
09:07 and hit many members
09:10 but you may not hit a missionary.
09:12 And I think that should be a cause for concern
09:14 because as we learned yesterday,
09:16 "Every true disciple
09:19 is born into the kingdom of God,"
09:22 as a what?
09:24 As a missionary. "As a missionary."
09:26 So that means that our churches should be filled, with what?
09:30 Missionaries.
09:32 Missionaries.
09:33 So let's pray together and let's pray
09:35 that God will give us
09:37 the spirit of not just looking at others
09:40 and the problems that they have,
09:42 not just looking at the corporate church
09:43 or even our own local church.
09:45 Let's pray that God will give us the spirit
09:46 of looking at ourselves, right.
09:50 It's very easy to see the great big beam
09:52 in someone else's eye.
09:54 But may be, just may be,
09:55 God is going to give us
09:57 a new beginning in our understanding
09:59 of what it truly means to be a disciple of Jesus
10:00 at this camp meeting.
10:02 Are you with me?
10:04 So let's pray for ourselves today.
10:05 I would ask you to kneel in your hearts
10:07 and all kneel here as we ask the spirit of God
10:09 to be with us in a very special way
10:11 as we commence with our presentation.
10:15 Father in heaven, we come to you just now,
10:19 thanking You and praising You that You are God in heaven
10:22 and we are but dust.
10:24 Father, yesterday we have learned
10:26 that You are a God of love,
10:27 infinite, unfathomable, immeasurable love.
10:31 And so we cast our helpless souls on You, Father.
10:34 We are looking to You for salvation, for grace,
10:36 for mercy, for victory.
10:39 And Father, we are looking to You
10:41 here today at camp meeting,
10:42 3ABN camp meeting for a new beginning.
10:46 Father, we don't want that
10:47 just to be a cute colloquial title.
10:48 We need a new beginning,
10:50 many of us in our spiritual experience.
10:53 Many of us have been satisfied oh, God to be mere members,
10:57 when You have called us each and everyone
11:00 to be mighty missionaries.
11:03 Father, today as we continue our discussion
11:05 of the interconnectedness and the interrelationship
11:08 between character and converts,
11:11 I pray that You would melt our hearts,
11:13 and Father, chasten us in our apathy,
11:16 chasten us in our indifference to lost souls.
11:21 Give us here today biblical clarity
11:25 that we may go from here in the strength of Christ,
11:29 believing that God has called us,
11:31 yes, even us to be winners of souls,
11:36 missionaries, and communicators
11:39 of the great good news of the gospel.
11:42 Revive us again, oh God, and give us a revival
11:45 of primitive discipleship evangelism and godliness.
11:52 In Jesus' name, let everyone say--
11:55 Amen. Amen.
12:00 Say it with me if you would.
12:01 "Every true disciple
12:05 is born into the kingdom of God as a missionary."
12:10 And we asked a question yesterday,
12:14 "Why would Ellen White used the word 'true'
12:18 to modify disciple here?"
12:20 Right?
12:21 Every true disciple is born
12:23 into the kingdom of God as a missionary."
12:24 And the answer must be that she was setting apart,
12:28 disciples, regular, old run-of-the-mill disciples
12:31 from true disciples.
12:33 Now, I don't know about you
12:35 but I want to be a true disciple.
12:36 Are you with me, yes or no?
12:38 And so we learned yesterday
12:39 that we have a functional equivalence here,
12:40 we have a grammatical equivalence here.
12:42 If I am a true disciple,
12:45 then by definition, I am a what?
12:47 Missionary, and this gives us a litmus test
12:49 by which to gauge our own Christian experience.
12:53 Because we can ask ourselves, if you sometimes wonder:
12:55 am I really a Christian, am I really disciple,
12:56 am I a true disciple.
12:58 We can very easily ask ourselves,
13:00 "Am I a missionary?"
13:02 And if the answer to that question is yes,
13:05 then chances are you are, in fact, a true disciple.
13:08 However, if the answer to that question is no,
13:12 then what would be the answer to the question,
13:13 are you a true disciple?
13:15 The answer would be no because every true disciple
13:18 is born into the kingdom of God as missionary.
13:20 We also learned yesterday,
13:22 marvelous statement from the Great Controversy,
13:24 the Spirit of Christ is a missionary spirit, right.
13:29 The Spirit of Christ is a what?
13:31 Missionary spirit.
13:33 And we talked about the various attributes
13:35 that philosophers and theologians
13:37 attribute to God, right.
13:38 Omnipotence, and omniscient,
13:39 and omnibenevolence, omnipresence
13:41 and we were asking the question,
13:42 if we were able to peel back all of these properties
13:44 that God possesses and that theologians,
13:47 these labels that they attached to Him
13:49 and we were to get in to the very heart
13:50 of heart of the germ of the nucleus
13:53 of what makes God tick,
13:55 what did we say we would discover there?
13:58 Love. That's exactly correct.
13:59 And then we said, well, what is love?
14:02 Does anyone remember what is love?
14:05 Self sacrifice.
14:06 It is the principle of putting others first, right.
14:11 And where, does anyone remember where is that little verse,
14:14 where was that little phrase from a verse
14:17 that basically summed up the essence of what love is.
14:20 1 Corinthians 13:5, and what was the phrase?
14:25 "Love seeketh not her own."
14:28 And so here from this one little phrase
14:30 we establish a biblical president
14:32 for what real love is, not namby-pamby, willy-nilly,
14:36 fuzzy-wuzzy emotional fanciful love.
14:38 We are talking about real love.
14:40 And real love is not an emotion,
14:41 it's not a flight, it's not a fancy,
14:43 it's not a feeling.
14:44 Real love is a principle that says
14:46 others are more important than me.
14:48 Can you say amen?
14:49 And that was evinced, of course,
14:51 in the most marvelous demonstration of love
14:53 that the universe has ever seen
14:55 when God himself,
14:56 in the person of His Son, Jesus Christ,
14:58 the incarnate God, went to the cross.
15:00 And the message of the cross was
15:02 that God would rather endure hell for you
15:04 than enjoy heaven without you.
15:07 Amen.
15:08 And so Jesus could say,
15:10 "Greater love has no man than this,
15:13 that a man would lay down his life
15:16 for his friends."
15:17 And God went even a step beyond that.
15:19 God laid down His life for his enemies.
15:22 And let's not forget to the apostle Paul says
15:24 in Romans 5:10,
15:26 "For if when we were enemies of God,
15:28 we were reconciled to Him by the death of his Son,
15:30 much more, having been reconciled,
15:31 we shall be saved by His life."
15:33 And so God goes above and beyond
15:34 not just laying down His life for his friends,
15:36 but even laying His life for His enemies.
15:40 And so we are asking the question,
15:41 if this what causes the heart of God
15:43 to beat, to palpate, to pulse, to seek and to save the loss.
15:47 That's what Jesus said in Luke 19:10.
15:49 And if the spirit of Christ is the missionary spirit,
15:51 I would be very comfortable saying
15:53 that God is the greatest missionary.
15:55 Amen.
15:57 All subsequent missionaries are simply feeding off
16:00 of the great love
16:02 and magnanimity and munificence of God
16:05 in going out to bring the message of salvation.
16:07 Jesus was the first missionary.
16:10 Are you with me?
16:12 And so we said, well, what is holiness, right.
16:15 We sometimes have these very weird
16:17 and I believe contrived and unfortunate
16:19 use of what holiness is.
16:20 Holiness is simply godlikeness.
16:24 Are you comfortable with that, yes or no?
16:26 God says, "Be therefore holy for I am holy."
16:30 So holiness is being like God and God is love.
16:36 Are you with me?
16:38 And so yesterday we talked
16:39 just about some of the wonderful,
16:41 beautiful, important things
16:42 that we as Seventh-day Adventists
16:44 hold to be true
16:45 and no one would take away things like returning tithe,
16:48 and being a vegetarian, and keeping the Sabbath
16:50 and being a member of the church.
16:51 Those are all important things.
16:53 Can you say amen? Amen.
16:54 But those things in and of themselves
16:56 do not give me enough in common with the God
16:59 who would hang bruised and bloodied
17:00 and beaten on a tree for me to reasonably expect
17:03 to spend eternity with that God.
17:06 Are you with me, yes or no?
17:08 God's heart beats to seek and to save the lost
17:10 and if at some fundamental level
17:13 my heart does not beat to seek and to save the loss,
17:16 I do not have that much in common with God.
17:22 That's basically a review of what we learnt yesterday.
17:24 And are we all on the same page up to that point?
17:26 Yes. Okay.
17:28 Now let's transition and begin to talk
17:30 about the two things that we closed on yesterday.
17:33 And that is the interconnectedness
17:35 of working for converts
17:37 and a Christ like character, okay.
17:39 There are only two things that you can take to heaven.
17:42 How many things?
17:44 Two things.
17:45 And those to things are character and converts, okay.
17:49 A Christ like character and converts.
17:50 And many of us have perhaps known that,
17:52 perhaps believe that,
17:54 may be you've heard me say that before.
17:55 Character and converts,
17:56 that's all you're taking to heaven.
17:58 But what I want to try and understand here today,
17:59 and the whole purpose of today's presentation
18:01 will be to show that it is not too unrelated
18:05 independent entities, character and converts.
18:08 It's not like, over one thing
18:09 that can go with me to heaven is over here
18:11 and that's a Christ like Character.
18:12 And over here is another thing that I can now- converts.
18:16 What we are going to see today
18:18 is that far from being independent,
18:20 these two things are interdependents.
18:24 Do you want a Christ like character?
18:29 Do you want a Christ like character?
18:30 There is more to that than being a vegan vegetarian.
18:36 Amen. Amen.
18:37 Important as that is. And you're looking at one.
18:40 So it's important as that is.
18:41 And I believe it's important.
18:43 Especially in this day in a, age on earth's history,
18:45 there is more to having a Christ like character
18:47 than simply being a vegetarian.
18:50 Christ's heart, His whole mission,
18:52 His whole passion was to seek in to save the lost.
18:55 And if I want a character like that,
18:57 I've got to be involved in seeking and saving the what?
19:02 The lost.
19:03 Now I was married April 4th 1999
19:06 and I had already made up my mind.
19:09 Before I was ever married,
19:11 before I had ever even met my future wife,
19:12 I already knew what the name of my first child
19:14 was going to be.
19:16 You know how that works? You just, I just--
19:17 I had already decided
19:18 this will be the name of my first child.
19:20 And so after I was married
19:21 and lo and behold my wife got pregnant.
19:24 I love it when they said that, "well, she got pregnant."
19:27 You know, there is a cause effect relationship here
19:29 which some people don't seem to understand.
19:31 And so my wife just got pregnant.
19:33 You know those things just sometimes happen
19:35 with married couples.
19:36 And so my wife turns up pregnant
19:40 and I waited, I waited, I wanted to see
19:42 because my name was a boy's name.
19:44 And so we waited to do the little photograph,
19:46 you know, it doesn't look like anything to you
19:48 but it looks like something to the expert
19:49 on the other end of the camera.
19:50 They said, "It's a boy. Can't you see?"
19:52 and I am like, looks like a bunch of static on
19:53 and it screamed to me.
19:55 But okay, it's a boy. I'll take your word for.
19:56 And so, I knew it was a boy. So now I am in a dilemma.
19:59 You can appreciate men.
20:01 Some of you have this dilemma on other issues.
20:02 And that is, you've got this great idea
20:03 that you already made up your mind on.
20:05 But now you have to persuade your wife
20:06 that it's her idea.
20:13 Can anyone else relate to what I am saying here today?
20:17 "Sweetheart, I think it's a great idea
20:19 that we should get a new fishing bowl.
20:20 You know, I am glad you came up with that.
20:21 Brilliant." You know, that kind of a thing.
20:23 So here I've got this name and I've already picked it out
20:26 and, and my wife, I sort of-- to be honest, what I did is,
20:29 I started throwing out some sub par names.
20:33 None of which I will mention, by the way,
20:35 because invariably one of them will be in the audience, right.
20:37 So I started just,
20:38 I started just throwing out a few names, you know,
20:40 just to sort of soften her up to where she would say,
20:42 "No, my, no child of mine is gonna be marry that."
20:45 And I throw out another one, then she's, "No, no, no."
20:47 And I was softening her up
20:49 so I could spring on her my name
20:52 which would sound so wonderful in juxtaposition
20:54 to all of these bad names, right.
20:57 So the time came and I said,
20:58 "Well, what do you think about, Barnabas?"
21:08 You know the reaction that you are giving me
21:10 is identical to the reaction she gave.
21:15 I remember her exact words to this day
21:17 because my spirit was utterly crushed
21:18 because I've already decided
21:20 that was gonna be the name of my first child,
21:21 like four years before, right, Barnabas.
21:24 And she said, I'll never forget that she said,
21:27 "No son of mine is gonna be named Barney."
21:34 And at the time,
21:36 I have an uncle Barney and he is dear to me.
21:37 He's passed away now.
21:39 But at the time, you know,
21:40 he has this dancing purple dinosaur,
21:42 this ubiquitous dancing purple dinosaur
21:44 named Barney
21:45 and I had-- it never dawned on me
21:47 that Barnabas shortened to Barney.
21:51 Now you might be sitting there and thinking,
21:52 why in the world would you say?
21:54 Why had you made up your mind
21:56 that your son was going to be named Barnabas?
21:58 Right.
22:00 Incidentally that is not the name of my first son.
22:02 So mission not accomplished, okay.
22:07 Now why would you choose that name?
22:08 Now, let me tell you why I chose that name.
22:09 I was studying to the Book of Acts
22:11 and I came across Acts 11.
22:13 Now many of us are aware
22:14 that Barnabas was a biblical figure, right.
22:16 But if I say to you,
22:18 take out a piece of paper right now
22:19 and write down ten things about Barnabas.
22:23 Could you do it? No. Probably not.
22:26 But if I say for example take out a piece of paper
22:28 and write ten things about Peter.
22:30 Could you do that? Yeah, probably.
22:32 So we know great deal about Peter
22:33 but we don't know much about Barnabas.
22:35 We just do know that much about him.
22:38 But in Acts 11:24,
22:39 why don't you turn there with me?
22:41 In Acts 11:24,
22:43 we learn everything we need know about Barnabas.
22:47 And it is this verse that inspired me to make
22:50 what is probably in retrospect an irrational choice
22:52 to name my first son, before I had even met my wife.
22:55 But you will appreciate I think,
22:56 the strength of this verse.
22:59 Acts 11:24, describing Barnabas.
23:02 The Bible simply says, "He was a good man,
23:08 full of the Holy Ghost and of faith,
23:14 and much people was added unto the Lord."
23:19 Can you say amen to that? Amen.
23:21 Now beloved, if everything else in your life
23:24 was a complete failure by any worldly standard,
23:26 by any of your peer's standard,
23:28 if you could come to the end of your life,
23:30 to the end of your sojourn on earth,
23:32 and on your tomb stone, your epitaph
23:34 or whatever it might be,
23:35 if all that was said about you was,
23:36 she was a good woman,
23:38 full of the holy ghost and of faith
23:39 and much people was added unto the Lord,
23:41 would you trade in every worldly attainment
23:44 for just that to be said in truth about you, yes or no?
23:47 Of course.
23:50 "He was a good man,
23:52 full of the Holy Ghost and of faith
23:53 and much people was added unto the Lord."
23:55 Now let's just sort of unpack this.
23:56 He was a good man, character,
23:59 full of the Holy Ghost, character
24:04 and of faith, character.
24:06 This is describing you the kind of person that he was
24:09 and much people was added unto the Lord, converts.
24:16 Are you with me, yes or no?
24:17 There is an interrelationship, there is a interdependency
24:21 between these two notions of character and converts.
24:26 Do you want a Christ like character?
24:29 Yes or no?
24:30 Then you must work for converts.
24:35 So I am reading to this book, it's an old book.
24:37 You've probably never heard of it.
24:38 It's called 'The Desire of Ages.'
24:43 It wasn't written by Max Lucado either.
24:48 And on page 142, I come across this statement
24:51 and you and I are going to spend
24:52 a few moments on this statement
24:53 because we are going to understand it
24:55 whether you like it or not.
24:58 Amen? Amen.
24:59 Now, before I read to the statement,
25:01 again I want to do what I did yesterday.
25:02 I want to apologize to you
25:03 on behalf of-- in many instances,
25:05 the Seventh-day Adventist ministry
25:07 for not telling you
25:08 what I am about ready to tell you.
25:10 Because some of us start, "Oh, you know,
25:11 it's good to be a Christian,
25:13 and I stopped doing all those things.
25:15 I don't go to movies anymore, and I'm even working,
25:17 I'm even cutting meat out of my diet
25:19 and I'm just, I am feeling like a Christian.
25:21 And in the unlikely event that I ever get a chance
25:24 to actually witness, I am willing to do it."
25:27 Right.
25:28 We have somehow disassociated in our minds
25:31 being a Christian and being a witness.
25:34 It's the difference, it's the dichotomy
25:36 between being a member and being a missionary, okay.
25:40 So I want to apologize. That has been communicated.
25:42 I think it, it is been communicated,
25:44 if not overtly, covertly and you know it's the case
25:47 because that's why you go to many of our churches
25:49 and they are filled to the brim in many instances with members
25:51 but scarcely a missionary there.
25:55 So, Desire of Ages.
25:56 Page 142, and we are going to love this
25:59 whether we like it or not.
26:03 "God could have reached His object
26:04 in saving sinners without our help.
26:08 Right. That's the first sentence.
26:09 Now that seems to be axiomatically true.
26:11 Right. That seems to be the case.
26:13 "God could have reached His object
26:14 in saving sinners without our help."
26:16 Do you agree with that? Yes.
26:17 Very simple.
26:18 We have instances about it in the scripture, don't we?
26:20 On one occasion,
26:21 God used the donkey to speak to man.
26:23 On another occasion God used the great fish,
26:25 some translation say a whale to speak to man.
26:29 Jesus even spoke to Peter through a rooster,
26:31 so he's not averse to using chickens.
26:33 And on one occasion Jesus said,
26:35 if these should be quite,
26:36 if these should hold their peace,
26:38 even the very stones would cry out.
26:40 So God can use donkeys, God can use fish,
26:42 God can use roosters and God can use stones
26:45 but let me tell you something here.
26:46 There would be a huge causality.
26:50 There would be a tremendous causality,
26:54 a catastrophe if you will, catastrophe,
26:56 if God chose to reach sinners through chickens,
27:00 and donkeys and fish and rocks.
27:03 And do you know who that causality would be?
27:07 You are a smart group.
27:10 I am so pleased.
27:12 There is a spiritual IQ
27:14 that seems to be just a little higher here
27:16 at the 3ABN camp meeting.
27:17 And it thrills my soul.
27:19 You have got all the right answers so far.
27:22 Now, of course, at the end we will make an appeal for you
27:23 to actually do something with those write answers.
27:25 But at least you are giving the right answers.
27:28 Amen? Amen.
27:30 So God could have reached His object
27:31 in saving sinners without our help, without our aid
27:33 but-- now the word but,
27:39 an important word in the English language.
27:40 Yes or no? Okay.
27:42 It's a conjunction.
27:43 That's its grammatical use. It's a conjunction.
27:45 It's like the word, 'and' but it is very different
27:47 in some senses from the word 'and.'
27:49 The word 'and' is also a grammatical conjunction.
27:51 So you might say something like, I like pizza and pasta.
27:54 I like soup and salad. Are you with me, yes or no?
27:57 And, 'and' joins two ideas together,
28:00 two nouns, two phrases together
28:02 but it does not indicate a turn.
28:04 It's just, I like soup and salad, right.
28:07 Pizza and pasta, right.
28:09 Are you with me everyone? And, and.
28:10 Okay, now the word 'but is also a conjunction
28:12 but it indicates a turn of events, okay.
28:15 It is a conjunction,
28:17 it can join two clauses, two nouns, two ideas
28:20 but it indicates a change or a turn.
28:23 So for example, in the illustration,
28:24 I like to use this, If you applied for a job
28:27 and you filled out your application,
28:29 you sent in your resume, you went in for the interview
28:32 and you just answered every question deftly,
28:34 and you were just sure you got the job.
28:35 I mean, just sure and so.
28:36 You know, a week later or whatever it is later
28:38 you get a letter in the mail and it says
28:40 "Dear sir, dear madam,
28:41 thank you so much for coming into interview with us.
28:42 It was a pleasure spending the other morning with you
28:44 and we appreciate the time
28:45 you took out of your busy schedule
28:46 to come and meet with us but...
28:52 Do you need to read the rest of the letter?
28:54 You don't need to read the rest of the letter
28:56 because it's telling you
28:57 but we chose to fill this position internally
28:58 or whatever they say.
29:00 The moment that you encounter the word
29:01 but you know that we are like going this direction,
29:03 "Oh, yeah, it was good to see you too
29:04 and it was really.
29:06 And you ran up against the but, right?
29:08 Now you know you are not walking that way anymore.
29:09 Now you are walking this way, right.
29:11 So 'but' indicates a U turn, okay.
29:15 So now listen, God could have reached His object
29:18 in saving sinners without our aid but...
29:23 Are you with me?
29:25 Incase if we were walking this way,
29:26 "Oh yeah, God can use donkeys,
29:27 and God can use roosters, and God can use chickens,
29:29 and God can use stones,
29:32 but--
29:36 Now we are walking this way, aren't we?
29:38 Are you ready for the 'but'?
29:40 "But
29:42 in order for us to develop a character like Christ's,
29:47 we must share in His work.
29:52 In order for us to enter into His joy," His joy,
29:56 "the joy of seeing souls redeemed by His sacrifice,
29:59 we must participate in His labors for their redemption."
30:05 Are you with me, yes or no?
30:06 Now you will notice that she employs the phrase two times
30:09 "in order to."
30:11 Did you get that? "In order to," "In order to."
30:14 Now what does that phrase,
30:15 what is the function of that phrase?
30:16 Very simply, the phrase "in order to"
30:19 denotes a necessary sequence of events.
30:23 Are you with me?
30:24 Okay, in order for me to start my car,
30:27 I must turn the key.
30:30 In order for me to have a full stomach I must eat, right?
30:34 In order to, in other words if you want to get to B,
30:36 you got to go through A.
30:38 Okay, now I want you to listen to it again.
30:40 "In order for us to develop a character like Christ,"
30:42 how many of us want to develop a character like Christ?
30:44 So that's B, that's over there, that's B.
30:46 I want B over there, right I'm headed towards B,
30:49 so in order for me to develop a character like Christ,
30:51 I must share in His labors.
30:55 So question, can I develop a character like Christ
30:58 without participating in His labors for their redemption?
31:02 Okay, in order to enter into His joy,
31:04 do I want the joy of Jesus?
31:06 She says it's "the joy of seeing souls
31:07 redeem by His sacrifice."
31:08 So that's over there, that's B.
31:10 I want to enter into that joy.
31:11 How do I enter into that joy?
31:13 I must share in His labors for their redemption.
31:18 Are you tracking with me?
31:20 Do you want to character like Christ?
31:23 You can not get it,
31:25 if you are not working for converts.
31:30 Clear enough?
31:31 All this is by the way is a recapitulation,
31:34 a restating of our opening mantra,
31:37 "Every true disciple
31:40 is born into the kingdom of God as a missionary."
31:45 It's simply a recapitulation of that idea,
31:47 if you want the character of Christ,
31:49 you must participate in the works of Christ
31:51 because how are you ever going
31:53 to identify with the God who would give everything
31:57 even His own existence for others,
31:59 if you are not giving something for others?
32:02 And what was our Bible study yesterday,
32:04 what was that phrase
32:05 that we looked at in the New Testament,
32:06 "He gave," what did He give?
32:08 "Himself."
32:09 "He gave himself," "He gave himself,"
32:11 "He gave himself."
32:12 Do you want to spend eternity with the God that gave Himself?
32:16 Then you better start giving yourself for others.
32:20 Amen.
32:22 Otherwise it's just not reasonable for you to expect
32:27 that you have enough in common with God
32:29 to prepare you to spend eternity with Him.
32:31 You just don't relate.
32:33 Amen.
32:35 We will return to that point.
32:39 I love the fact that Tammy is saying
32:41 "my treasures are laid out somewhere beyond the blue."
32:45 Did you hear that?
32:46 "The angles backing me from heavens open to
32:49 my treasures are laid out somewhere beyond the blue."
32:51 How many of you have heard the phrase
32:53 "to lay your treasure up in heaven."
32:56 How many of you heard that, that notion?
32:57 Matthew Chapter 6, okay we've heard.
32:59 What is that what is the treasure in heaven?
33:10 What is the treasure laid up in heaven?
33:14 Well, can I show you from the Bible?
33:16 Is that fair?
33:17 Now we're going to do this
33:18 by looking at two parallel passages.
33:20 Okay, they're both in Matthew.
33:22 So go to Matthew Chapter 6, let's put our,
33:24 we'll, actually look at--
33:27 well, yeah, let's go to Matthew Chapter 6, go there.
33:31 Matthew Chapter 6,
33:34 and if you got one of these ribbons
33:36 or a pen or a finger or your neighbor's finger
33:39 what ever you need,
33:42 just take that and put that right there, okay.
33:44 And then the other passage
33:46 we're gonna go to is Matthew Chapter 19.
33:48 Okay.
33:49 Matthew Chapter 19,
33:51 so we have one in Matthew 6 and one in Matthew 19.
33:55 All right, are we all together on that?
33:58 So let's read the passage in Matthew Chapter 6 first.
34:00 Matthew 6:19. Matthew 6:19.
34:04 This is the passage that we're familiar with.
34:06 "Do not lay up for yourselves treasures," where?
34:09 "On earth where moth and rust destroy,
34:10 and where thieves break in" and what did they do?
34:13 "Steal." "But" there is the "but" right.
34:16 "But lay up for yourselves treasures," where everyone?
34:20 "In heaven where neither moth nor rust destroys
34:23 and where thieves do not break in and steal."
34:26 Okay, so far so good.
34:28 So Jesus says don't lay your treasures up on earth
34:30 because they are perishable.
34:32 But put your treasures in heaven
34:33 because they are imperishable.
34:35 Well, my question is what are those heaven,
34:36 what does that mean?
34:37 Sometimes we have these very powerful, very profound,
34:39 very robust Bible passages
34:41 and we turn them into cute little colloquial sayings
34:44 that we cross stitch
34:46 and then we hang above the toilet
34:47 in the guest bathroom.
34:49 Oh, isn't that nice you know,
34:51 though I speak with the tongues
34:52 of men and of angles in heaven, I love.
34:54 And we cross stitch
34:56 and we put that little blue birds
34:57 and we hang it up above the toilet
34:58 in the guest bathroom.
35:00 Beloved, when you read
35:01 1 Corinthians Chapter 13 and its context,
35:03 it is a scathing rebuke to the people of Corinth.
35:07 And we sometimes neutral the word of God
35:09 when we turn it to just cute little proverbial sayings.
35:12 Oh, I love that one, the treasures in heaven,
35:15 let's cross stitch that up
35:17 and I have nothing against cross stitching, by the way.
35:18 Nothing at all.
35:20 But let's cross stitch that up treasures in heaven
35:21 with a little blue birds and a flower and a sun shining
35:24 and the little, oh, perfect.
35:25 And we put it somewhere. Isn't that cute?
35:27 But what does it mean?
35:30 Are you with me? Yes or no?
35:31 What does it mean, treasures in heaven?
35:33 But look at Matthew 19. Okay.
35:36 You are there Matthew 6 Jesus counsels,
35:37 don't put your treasures on earth,
35:39 but put your treasure in heaven and look at Matthew 19:21.
35:43 Matthew 19:21.
35:45 Jesus here is speaking to the rich young, what?
35:48 Ruler.
35:49 Right, So "Jesus said to him, 'if you want to be perfect,
35:55 go and sell what you have and give to the poor
36:00 and you will have treasure'" where?
36:02 "In heaven."
36:03 And then He says something very interesting.
36:05 "And come and follow me."
36:09 Okay, now the rich young ruler was probably rich.
36:12 That's why we call him the rich young ruler.
36:13 Are you with me?
36:15 Okay, now I don't know how he got his wealth,
36:16 but lets just say for the sake of illustration
36:18 that he got his wealth from, he was a business man.
36:20 Let's just say he was a business man.
36:22 Okay, now I want you to look at that phrase there
36:24 "follow me."
36:26 What's the phrase everyone? "Follow me" Right.
36:28 "Follow me and you'll have treasure in heaven."
36:30 Okay.
36:31 That phrase "follow me,"
36:32 you study that in the New Testament
36:34 and that is an invitation by Jesus to discipleship.
36:39 Are you with me?
36:41 It's not just an ordinary, it's not just,
36:42 this is not just an ordinary run-of-the-mill,
36:44 general invitation here.
36:46 When He says to the rich young ruler "follow me,"
36:49 this is just exactly like what He said
36:51 to Levi or Matthew there at the receipt of custom,
36:53 he said "follow me."
36:55 And what he said to Peter, James and John
36:56 down by the Sea of Galilee?
36:58 Follow me.
36:59 So He says to the rich young ruler, "Follow me."
37:01 Are you with me everyone? Yes or no?
37:03 Now I want you to notice something very interesting,
37:04 let's talk about that phrase.
37:06 Let's talk about that invitation
37:08 that Jesus gave there to Peter, James and John.
37:09 Now follow this through.
37:10 We're goanna put, imagining in our minds eye,
37:12 we've got track one here and track two here, okay.
37:15 So Jesus is speaking to Peter, James and John.
37:17 What was their vocation? They were fishermen.
37:20 Okay, so watch this very carefully.
37:21 Jesus says to fishermen "follow me," that's right here,
37:26 "and I will make you fishers of men."
37:30 Tracking with me, yes or no? Follow me.
37:32 What was that an invitation to?
37:34 To be my disciple.
37:35 Come and be my disciple
37:37 and I'll teach you how to fish for men.
37:38 Okay, so Jesus is speaking to fishermen
37:39 and he says I'll make you fishers of men.
37:41 So now Jesus, that's track one,
37:43 now Jesus is speaking to a wealthy man,
37:45 perhaps a businessmen, right?
37:46 A man who is interested
37:47 in material possessions, treasures.
37:49 And He says "Follow me,
37:53 and you'll get treasure" where?
37:57 "In heaven." What is this invitation to?
38:00 It's an invitation to discipleship.
38:01 Now when you lay
38:02 both of these right down side, beside one another parallel,
38:05 it makes perfect sense.
38:06 Jesus says to the fishermen "follow me
38:08 and I'll make you fishers of men,"
38:09 of course, He employ that kind of language,
38:10 He was speaking to fishermen.
38:12 But when Jesus was speaking to a businessmen,
38:13 He is giving the same invitation "follow me"
38:15 but he doesn't say I'll make you fishers of men
38:17 that may not have appealed to a man
38:18 is was a businessmen or a wealthy men.
38:20 He says follow me
38:21 and I'll give you an even better treasure
38:22 than the material good you could accumulate here on earth.
38:24 But in both instances, the invitation to discipleship
38:27 was an invitation to become a partner with Jesus
38:31 in the evangelization of the world
38:33 in the preaching of the gospel.
38:34 Amen.
38:36 When he speaks to fishermen he says you know what,
38:37 I got it, you will be fishers of men
38:39 and what he speaks to businessmen he says,
38:40 I give you treasures in heaven.
38:42 Well, what does it mean to the fishers of men?
38:44 It means to be a co-worker with God.
38:46 Are you with me, yes or no?
38:47 What does that mean to have treasures in heaven?
38:49 It means to be a co-worker with God.
38:53 Do you follow that? It's very, very simple.
38:55 So what is the treasure in heaven?
38:58 Well, it's two fold.
39:01 It's two fold.
39:04 It's souls saved
39:07 and the character that you develop
39:09 by working in partnership with God to save those souls.
39:12 It's character and it's converts.
39:16 Are you tracking with me?
39:17 Now you thing I made that up?
39:20 You thought I made that up?
39:22 I didn't. I didn't.
39:25 It's not original with me.
39:26 I think it's exactly
39:28 what the Bible is teaching in a variety of passages
39:29 and I think it's also exactly
39:31 what Ellen White affirmed in the book
39:33 Thoughts From the Mount of Blessing,
39:34 when she commented on the phrase
39:35 "do not lay up for yourselves treasures is on earth
39:37 "do rather treasures is in heaven."
39:39 So I'd like to read you part of that.
39:41 Are you tracking with me? And here it is.
39:45 The treasure which Christ esteems
39:47 as treasures above all estimate
39:50 is the richest of the glory of his inheritance in the saints.
39:55 Ephesians 1:18.
39:57 That's another way of saying the treasure is soul saved,
40:00 saints that will be in heaven.
40:02 The disciples of Christ are called His jewels,
40:04 His precious and peculiar treasure.
40:08 He says they shall be as stones of a crown,
40:11 "I will make a man more precious than fine gold,
40:13 even a man than the golden wedge of Ophir"
40:16 quoting from Isaiah 13:12.
40:17 "Christ looks upon his people
40:18 and their purity and perfection
40:20 as the reward of all His sufferings,
40:22 His humiliation and His love
40:24 and the supplement of His glory,
40:26 Christ the great centre from whom all radiates,
40:29 from which radiates all glory," second paragraph.
40:31 "We are permitted to unite with Him
40:33 in the great work of redemption
40:35 and to be sharers with Him in the richest,
40:38 which is death and suffering have won."
40:40 The apostle Paul wrote to the Thessalonians Christians,
40:42 "What is our hope or our joy
40:44 or our crown of rejoicing?
40:47 Are not even you
40:49 in the presence of the Lord
40:50 Jesus at His coming for you are our glory and joy?"
40:53 Paul was saying you are our treasure.
40:56 When we came there and we preached the gospel
40:58 and you where turn form the darkness and ravages
41:00 and superstitions of heathendom
41:01 and you put your faith in Jesus,
41:03 you have become
41:04 you are now in inheritance of God,
41:06 you are saint and you are our treasure.
41:11 Paul now has people
41:12 friends with who he will not just be friends
41:14 for a decade or two or three or several years.
41:17 These are eternal friends.
41:23 This is the treasure for which Christ bids us labor.
41:28 This is the treasure, what is the treasure?
41:30 Converts. Now watch.
41:31 This is amazing,
41:33 she says "every-I'm continuing on here,
41:36 "Character is the great harvest of life.
41:39 And every word or deed
41:40 that through the grace of Christ
41:41 shall kindle in one soul
41:43 and impulse that reaches heavenward,
41:44 every effort that tends
41:45 to the formation of a Christ like character
41:47 is laying up treasure in heaven."
41:49 It is inescapable in this one paragraph,
41:51 she says we work for converts
41:53 and those people are our treasure
41:55 and this gives us a character like Christ
41:57 and that is our treasure.
42:01 So this brings us back to Desire of Ages 142,
42:04 God could have reached his object
42:05 and saving sinners without our aid
42:07 but in order for us to develop a character like Christ
42:12 we must participate in His labors for their redemption.
42:17 Amen.
42:20 What does it mean to lay up treasure in heaven?
42:21 It's so cute, it's so nice when it's cross stitched
42:23 and hanging above the toilet in the bathroom.
42:25 What it means is be a missionary.
42:28 Amen.
42:30 You're not taking your SUV, you're not taking your house,
42:32 you're not taking your portfolio,
42:34 you're not talking your RV to heaven
42:36 but you can take a Christ like character to heaven.
42:39 Well, how am I going to get a Christ like character?
42:40 I am gonna stop eating pickles and I am going to return tithe.
42:43 Fine. Do it.
42:44 But start working for souls. Amen.
42:50 Do you want to resonate with the God
42:52 whose whole heart beats to seek into save that which was lost?
42:56 Your heart better start beating
42:58 to seek and to save the lost.
43:00 If it doesn't, disabuse your mind of the notion
43:03 that you have enough in common with God
43:05 to reasonably expect to spend eternity with Him.
43:08 Amen.
43:12 Are we together everyone? Yes.
43:14 So look at Luke 12
43:15 and I can utterly demonstrate biblically
43:18 that that is exactly what the treasure is.
43:20 Look at this Luke 12
43:21 and this will make very good sense to us now.
43:23 Luke 12:13.
43:26 Luke 12 and what verse everyone?
43:28 Thirteen.
43:30 "Then one from the crowd said to him--"
43:31 we'll, pick it up in verse 16.
43:33 "Then he spoke to parable to them saying,
43:35 'The ground of a certain rich man yielded plentifully."
43:38 Okay. He was making money.
43:40 It says, "Fields were bountiful."
43:43 Verse 17, "And He thought within himself saying,
43:45 'What shall I do,
43:46 since I have no room to store my crops?'
43:48 " Man, what am I gonna do with all this good stuff,
43:50 all this money, all this material possessions?
43:52 Verse 18, "So he said, 'This is what I'll do.
43:54 I will pull down my barns,'"
43:56 probably it's significant expense to himself,
43:59 "and build greater barns,'"
44:00 even greater expense to himself,
44:02 '"and I will store up all my crops and my goods.
44:05 And I'll say to soul, ah, soul
44:08 'You have many of goods laid up for many years.
44:10 Take your ease; eat, drink and be merry.'
44:15 '" Verse 20,
44:17 "But God said to him--"
44:18 what is the first thing that God says to that mentality?
44:20 Fool.
44:22 Now when God says fool,
44:23 He is not saying Na-na-na-na-na-na.
44:26 You're a fool.
44:27 You know, it's not--
44:29 what He is saying is unwise choice.
44:31 That's what a fool is in the Bible by the way,
44:32 It's not name calling.
44:34 God is not being pejorative.
44:35 He is not saying nanny, nanny, boo, boo.
44:37 When God says you're a fool,
44:38 He says you're not making wise choices.
44:42 Are you with me?
44:44 He says, "Fool!"
44:45 Unwise choice.
44:47 Well, what was so unwise about the choice?
44:50 "Tonight your soul will be required of you."
44:53 It's very interesting, by the way,
44:54 for those of you who pay attention to these things.
44:55 God doesn't say I'll kill you to night.
44:57 What He says is
44:58 you didn't know that tonight was your night to die.
45:00 There is a big difference. Are you with me?
45:02 He says, "You fool!
45:04 Tonight your life will be required of you.
45:05 Then whose will those things be which you have provided?"
45:08 And that's what the whole Book of Ecclesiastes
45:10 is about, by the way.
45:11 Solomon says, "I accumulated all these goods
45:13 with vanity and vanities.
45:14 When I die, somebody else gets that
45:16 didn't have to work for it."
45:19 And that's when He says, He says, "You're a fool!"
45:20 Didn't you read the Book of Ecclesiastes?
45:22 You accumulated all these stuff,
45:23 but when you die what good is it to you--
45:25 and then look at verse 21.
45:28 "So is he--"
45:29 Do you know what that means, "So is he?"
45:31 He is a fool.
45:35 Are you with me?
45:36 He is a fool, "Who lays up treasure for himself,
45:40 and is not rich toward God."
45:46 Wait a minute. Wait a minute. Wait a minute.
45:47 Let's understand that phrase, 'who is not rich toward God'.
45:50 And we might read that.
45:52 Somebody might stand up in an offering appealing
45:53 and saying you should be rich toward God.
45:55 You should give an appeal, "Fine.
45:56 Fine, fine, fine.
45:57 I have no problem with giving faithful offerings.
45:59 We should be giving sacrificial offerings
46:00 at these times in earth's history.
46:01 Can you say Amen?
46:03 I mean, listen, this thing is almost over, okay.
46:05 And a good friend of mine is quite a wealthy man.
46:07 I loved it one time when I was talking to him
46:08 and he said, "Hey, listen,
46:10 what do you think that price of real estate
46:11 was in the days of Noah when the rain started to fall?"
46:14 Right. This thing is almost over.
46:15 So if ever there was a time when we shall be making
46:17 sacrificial gifts to God, that time is now.
46:19 Can you say amen?
46:20 But that is not what this text is teaching.
46:22 When the text says to be rich toward God,
46:26 it means to give God what is truly His treasure.
46:29 You know what His treasure is?
46:31 It's you saved and those who are saved
46:34 by Him through your agency.
46:36 Amen.
46:39 Are you with me?
46:44 You see, when you start working for souls,
46:47 all of the things that you thought
46:49 were so difficult, so hard,
46:51 so whatever in your spiritual experience
46:53 suddenly disappears like dew before the rising sun.
46:57 Reason that we have some of the cantankerous curmudgeons
47:00 in our church that we do is, they are not doing anything
47:02 except cantankerous curmudgeons.
47:08 I like to say that the horse that is pulling right here--
47:11 put a horse put a cart on the horse.
47:13 The horse that is pulling doesn't kick
47:16 because he is working.
47:18 We do a lots of time to kick
47:20 and argue about this, that and the other thing
47:21 into getting to little
47:23 theological foolishness over nothing
47:25 because we are not really winning souls.
47:27 We are not out in the contact with the people.
47:30 We are in our little Adventist parochial world
47:32 and we are insolated from the--
47:34 we are basically like the Jews of their day.
47:36 Amen.
47:38 We are just insolated ourselves from people.
47:41 Oh, you want to be a part of our club?
47:44 Or you better talk the way we talk, I mean,
47:46 we may not say that but we communicate that
47:48 in just the way that we do, church.
47:54 Sometimes people say to me, "Well, pastor, I, I--
47:57 " I mean, I'll tell you, I have a whole another seminar.
47:59 I have to do sometime here at 3ABN
48:00 call the 15 most common mistakes
48:02 made by new soul winners, right.
48:04 Listen, you want be a soul winner,
48:06 you get out there and people are just making mistakes.
48:07 But here is the good thing
48:08 and I'll just give you a quick recapitulation of that.
48:10 Can anyone in this room ride a unicycle?
48:17 Okay, there is one of you. Okay, good.
48:19 There are two of you, okay.
48:21 I am not one of them. I cannot ride a unicycle.
48:24 It seems like a very bad design to me to be honest.
48:28 I think the two wheels is a better
48:30 and I think even three wheels is getting a little farther.
48:32 I mean, you know, you just, you lose stability
48:34 because of the principle of triangulation.
48:35 A unicycle ride? Have you ever tried it?
48:39 It ain't easy.
48:41 Its last year at a rise-- two, two--
48:43 a young lady and another young man brought unicycles
48:45 and just to watched them buzzer on the parking lot.
48:47 I mean, I am a healthy, young fit guy.
48:48 It was like, give me that thing.
48:55 You know. Oh!
48:58 You know, I--
49:00 so I leaned on a big strong man,
49:01 here I lean, okay you got me, and...
49:04 You got me? Got you.
49:06 Okay, get ready, I am gonna let go, and, you know just, I mean.
49:09 The moment I-- I cannot ride a unicycle.
49:12 It's hard. Let me ask you this question.
49:15 Do you think I ever quit learn to ride a unicycle?
49:17 Yes. Do you think it's possible?
49:19 Yes.
49:20 You know what I asked to do in order to learn a motor cycle
49:21 or learn to ride a unicycle?
49:23 Let me tell what you have to do.
49:25 You're saying practice but you know what you're really saying?
49:27 You'd have to make some mistakes.
49:31 Are you with me?
49:32 Because what happens is, is you lean too far forward
49:34 and you think you're developing a battery of information
49:36 that basically says, "the last time you did that.
49:38 This resulted.
49:39 And that's an undesirable result.
49:40 Let's try this."
49:42 And the more mistakes you make,
49:43 you start to develop an encyclo...
49:45 a battery of information.
49:46 And the more mistakes you make
49:47 the more aware you will be of how to do it wrong
49:50 so that you can stop doing that and start doing it right.
49:52 Do you know what the most common mistake
49:54 made by new soul winners is?
49:56 They are not making enough mistakes.
50:03 I would love as a minister
50:05 to have a church member come to me and say,
50:07 "Oh pastor,
50:09 I was giving a Bible study this last week
50:10 to my friend, you know, Kathy.
50:13 It's Kathy friend and I said the wrong thing.
50:15 I said all the wrong things."
50:17 I would say, "Praise the Lord!"
50:21 Somebody would say, "Oh, you know, pastor, I went out,
50:22 I just decided I felt such a burden
50:23 that Jesus is coming soon.
50:25 I went out and I started knocking on doors
50:26 of my neighborhood and uh, I did it all wrong."
50:28 Praise the Lord!"
50:31 I would love to be inundated with tales of failure
50:36 from church members
50:37 because you know
50:38 that they are going to get it right eventually
50:41 but you are just not going to, you know,
50:42 become a Christian,
50:43 go into the proverbial phone booth and go...
50:46 Super soul winner!
50:49 It doesn't work that way.
50:54 Are you with me?
50:59 Listen, the first evangelistic series I ever preached,
51:02 the first evangelistic series I ever preached,
51:04 and I'll tell the story very, very quickly.
51:05 I was up preaching and, even I was, I do nothing.
51:09 I was praying, praying, praying new Seventh-day Adventist.
51:11 I've been an Adventist for about a year and half
51:12 and I brought up a stack of Time magazines about 25 thick.
51:15 It was on 'Science of the Times'.
51:16 I am like, puffff.
51:18 Open your bible to Mathew 24.
51:19 And I am sure you're blasting them
51:20 with all these news paper articles
51:22 and I was coming to the summary,
51:23 I wanted to tell them it's so obvious
51:24 that Jesus is coming soon.
51:26 It's so plain that Jesus is coming soon.
51:27 I said, "Jesus is coming soon!
51:29 It's as plain as "and my mind went just blank.
51:31 Just.
51:34 And for some reason this word just came
51:38 floating into my mind.
51:40 And here it came, and we will have that experience
51:42 for you're about ready to say something
51:43 and you know you're about ready to say it
51:44 but you don't want to say.
51:46 But, it's so, it's like...
51:49 I said "Jesus is coming soon and it's as plain as
51:53 cheese."
52:02 And I was, I was like...
52:06 I just kept preaching, I just kept preaching.
52:10 And even when I was preaching, I was thinking,
52:11 "Did you just say 'it's as plain as cheese?'
52:12 Anyway, we don't have time for that.
52:14 Keep preaching."
52:15 So, anyway, here is point, here is point.
52:16 When we got down to the end of that it
52:18 and I sometimes wonder, "Man, I just see the angels,
52:19 you know, the angels are just like,
52:21 they are sitting there, you know because, you know,
52:22 here is this new young preacher and they are behind the people.
52:30 Here he goes again. Nope. Okay.
52:34 Anyway here's the point.
52:37 Halleluiah! Sweet Jesus!
52:39 Seventeen people are baptized in that meeting.
52:41 Seventeen people.
52:43 And I said "plain as cheese."
52:45 And listen, I got short amount of time.
52:49 So don't clap. I got to get going.
52:52 Listen, listen, listen, here is the point, here is the point.
52:53 You want to know what?
52:55 I have never since said that in a sermon.
53:00 I've said many other stupid things
53:03 but I've never said that one.
53:05 Are you with me?
53:06 So I am learning from my mistakes
53:08 and the most common mistake made by new soul winners
53:11 is they are not out making enough mistakes.
53:15 It is better to do something for God
53:17 and to get it completely wrong
53:19 than to do nothing and to get it completely right.
53:25 What does it mean to have treasure in heaven?
53:26 It's very simple.
53:28 By the way, by the way, I've just got to tell you this,
53:29 write this time very quickly.
53:30 Mark 1:17. Mark 1:17.
53:32 When Jesus gives the invitation, Mark 1:17,
53:34 Mark records it differently.
53:36 He doesn't just say, "Follow me
53:37 and I will make you fishers of men."
53:39 In Mark, Mark records it this way.
53:41 He says, "Follow Me,
53:42 and I will make you to become fishers of men."
53:46 Oh, that is so beautiful beloved
53:48 because fishers of men are not born.
53:50 They are created as they work in partnership with God.
53:53 You might make mistake after mistake
53:54 and failure after failure
53:56 and all, listen, Jesus is making you
53:58 to become a fishers of men.
54:01 It's a process.
54:02 Can you say amen to that? Amen.
54:05 Lay up treasure in heaven.
54:07 Do you want Christ like character?
54:08 Do you want Christ like character?
54:09 Yes or no? Yes.
54:11 Let me tell you, if you don't have
54:12 a Christ like character, you will not see God.
54:17 I just don't know how I can say that anymore plainly.
54:19 Without holiness no man will see God.
54:22 "Blessed are the pure in heart for they shall see God."
54:25 Do you want Christ like character?
54:26 Do you? Yes or no? Yes.
54:28 Then you've got to get busy working with Jesus
54:30 for the redemption of other people.
54:32 Working for converts is the surest way
54:34 to develop a character like Christ.
54:37 Character and converts. Character and converts.
54:40 C.T. Studd, one of the great missionaries of yesteryear,
54:43 one of the Cambridge seven,
54:45 who dedicated his life to China.
54:47 In fact, he said in one occasion, He said,
54:48 "I've given my life to China."
54:50 And he said, "If God gave me a thousand more lives,
54:52 I give them all to China."
54:56 And as he was coming to the end of his life,
54:57 C.T. Studd, that marvelous missionary
54:59 that gave his everything
55:00 for the salvation of souls, he said,
55:02 "Some want to live
55:03 within the sound of church or chapel bell,
55:07 but me, I want to run a rescue shop
55:11 within a yard of hell."
55:17 Let me tell you, when he stands on the sea of glass
55:19 and Jesus comes walking to him,
55:21 he will have something in common with Jesus.
55:24 When Jesus says "do you know what I mean?"
55:26 C.T. Studd will be able to say, "Yeah."
55:32 Beloved when you stand on the sea of glass
55:34 and you look Jesus right in the eyes,
55:36 are you going to have something in common with Him?
55:39 Now I am not just talking about vegetarianism
55:40 or returning tithe or even keeping the Sabbath.
55:42 Here's a God who gave everything to save.
55:44 Are you gonna have anything in common with that God?
55:49 How is it with you?
55:51 Would you rather live within the sound of church
55:52 or chapel bell?
55:57 In the comfort of your little church environment
56:01 or do you, like C.T. Studd evolved
56:03 and like Jesus Christ himself, do you say no?
56:06 "Rather live within the sound of church
56:07 or chapel bell, I'd rather run a rescue shop
56:10 within a yard of hell."
56:14 God want's to save you. Can you say amen?
56:16 Amen.
56:19 He wants you to be laying up your treasures in heaven.
56:20 Can you say amen? Amen.
56:22 And those treasures are character and converts.
56:26 Do you want a Christ like character?
56:28 Start working for converts.


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