Participants: Shawn Boonstra (Host), Dan Houghton
Series Code: OTA
Program Code: OTA00002A
00:21 Dr. Standish tell me did you recognize this fellow?
00:24 Its kind a like a dean I had once.
00:26 A dean you had in school, sure.
00:28 Tell me though who is this? Who is this?
00:30 This is homo habilis. Homo habilis and people say
00:33 that he is one of my great, great, great, great,
00:35 great, grandfather is that true. That's the theory.
00:39 That's the theory. Well, you know what in
00:40 a moment, we're just gonna dig into the ground
00:42 and find out how much we really know about
00:44 these monkey men that were digging out of the ground.
00:47 So stick around for "Out Of Thin Air."
01:05 Good evening and again I want to welcome
01:06 you to the special presentation by Shawn
01:09 Boonstra. It is written in television called
01:12 "Out Of Thin Air." You know tonight Shawn is going
01:16 to take you on a journey. He is going to take
01:20 from scripture right through the mind of God,
01:22 where in the mind of God he began to think about
01:25 creation and you see how in the word of God
01:27 he actually took the thought of God begin to put
01:31 into words as the word came out of his mouth, our
01:35 world materialized. All the beauty that you see
01:38 around us comes from the thought of God translated
01:42 into words that come into reality and here is the
01:46 incredible thing I want you to think about
01:47 for a moment. Where do you fit into that?
01:53 In God's creative scheme where do you fit into that?
01:58 Tonight, I think you gonna find out that you are the
02:01 crowning act of God's creation. Have you ever
02:04 thought about that, how important you can be
02:06 in this whole scheme? He made the human being
02:12 as the crowning act of his creation.
02:15 Tonight presentation is the hidden history
02:19 of the human race. Would you please
02:21 welcome Shawn Boonstra.
02:34 Thank you for being here again.
02:36 We're gonna look at an awful lot in a very
02:39 short time again tonight. I can be able to cover
02:42 everything that I love to cover in just a
02:44 few moments we have together even in the
02:46 four nights that we have together,
02:47 but again I want to lay that important foundation.
02:50 So let you start asking the right questions,
02:53 so that you start arriving at some real answers.
02:57 And again because I am a minister and a Christian
02:59 and I believe that God does exist. Last night,
03:02 I talked about why I think he exist and how
03:04 I know he exists, how something started
03:06 this place, I always like to speak to him just
03:09 before I speak. Let's bow our heads for a moment.
03:12 Father in Heaven, thank you for loving us.
03:15 Thank you for giving us intelligent minds that can
03:17 examine evidence and come to conclusions.
03:19 It's my prayer tonight that you would bless
03:21 what I say, so that Lord tonight what I say
03:24 is intelligent and helps us to discover you for
03:28 I ask in Jesus name, amen.
03:31 Well as I begin our subject tonight the
03:33 hidden history of the human race,
03:35 I want to really, really, really quickly review
03:38 what we talked about in meeting number one.
03:41 You see it's gonna prove to be important
03:42 to review this information a lot and do a lot
03:45 of thinking because there is no way we can
03:47 cover the biggest questions in the universe
03:49 in only four nights. It's important to really
03:52 make sure then that what we do discuss
03:54 we really have nailed down,
03:56 so let's do a super quick review of what
03:59 we've already talked about. In our first meeting,
04:01 we noticed that up until about 150 years ago,
04:04 people just kind of assumed that God put
04:07 us here. We thought that something or someone
04:11 had a purpose for us here on planet earth.
04:13 We were put here on purpose by design and
04:16 our lives actually mean something,
04:19 and we got that from places like the Book of
04:21 Revelation chapter 4, which says,
04:23 we were created for God's pleasure and
04:25 we had a design, a purpose, a reason for
04:27 being here. But then about a 150 years ago
04:30 not quite, Darwin puts out this book called
04:33 "The Origin Of Species" and he starts talking
04:36 about the fact that maybe we came into being
04:38 all by ourselves and God is no longer in the picture.
04:42 He came up with this theory known as
04:43 "Natural Selection." He said animals change
04:46 over time and the best traits survive and
04:49 one of the animals that he looked at were
04:51 the finches. He said the ones with the long beaks
04:53 survive better than the ones with the short beaks
04:55 and the short beak birds die often, the
04:57 long beak birds survive and so they have
05:00 lots of long beaked babies.
05:02 Remember that, do you remember it at all.
05:05 Alright long beaked baby,
05:07 so long beaks becomes the dominant traits said,
05:10 Darwin. But as we looked at Darwin last night,
05:12 we noticed that he left some pretty big questions
05:15 unanswered. He made observations about the
05:17 way living organisms are, and how things might
05:19 change but he doesn't answer the really
05:22 big questions stuff like why am I here.
05:25 How did life start and why do I have this
05:28 sense that I am supposed to be doing something
05:30 with the time that I have here on earth.
05:32 Why is it a sorrow to me when
05:34 I am wasting time, when I look back over my life
05:36 and I can see entire years that didn't count
05:39 for anything like my 3rd year in university
05:41 when I hardly ever went to class and if my mom
05:43 ever sees this that's actually what happened.
05:47 Why do we think life has to mean something?
05:51 Darwin came up with this theory as a way
05:52 of explaining life without God in the picture.
05:55 We know now historically speaking that
05:58 Darwin wanted God out of the picture.
06:00 He spoke often about books like the Bible
06:02 and said if only we can get rid of that stuff,
06:04 and interestingly enough he was a theologian.
06:07 He is even I believe the son of the minister.
06:09 He thought about such things, he wanted God out
06:11 of the picture and he needed a theory that got
06:14 rid of God. It was deliberate.
06:16 He wanted God out of the picture and we
06:18 discovered last night that there are lot of people
06:20 who after studying things carefully can see
06:22 the God must exist or at least something
06:24 started it and something put it in motion
06:26 or somebody put it in motion but they don't
06:28 want God in the picture. They just say okay,
06:30 we know that life can't come into being by itself,
06:33 but we have to accept that if we don't want God
06:35 in the picture, so we are just going to accept
06:37 that life can come into being by itself.
06:39 It's still going on today; people still say stuff
06:42 like that like Professor Richard Lewontin, the
06:45 scientist. He said, "We take the side of science
06:48 in spite of the patent absurdity of some of its
06:51 constructs, what does that mean.
06:53 We know that something, some of the scientific
06:55 conclusions we come to are just dead wrong,
06:57 but we still side with that because we have
07:00 a prior commitment, now that's very honest.
07:02 We have an agenda, there is something
07:04 we want to prove. We have a commitment to
07:06 materialism. Moreover, that materialism is an
07:09 absolute, for we cannot allow a Divine Foot
07:12 in the door. In another words,
07:15 what he is saying is we only have bad evidence
07:18 for life just coming into being by itself and some
07:20 of these theories that we hold to,
07:21 the evidence is really, really bad but
07:25 we only have two options, either somebody or
07:27 something put this all in motion or it came into
07:31 being by itself and we don't want this one where
07:33 somebody put into motion. We don't want there
07:36 to be a God, so we have to go whether we
07:38 came into being by itself even if the evidence says
07:41 that's wrong, very honest of him to say that.
07:46 So here is the problem, if you take God right out
07:49 of the picture you just ignore the fact,
07:52 I mean we saw in our first meeting that
07:54 everything always comes back to the fact
07:55 somebody or something had to start this all.
07:58 If you just ignore that how do you explain where
08:01 you and I come from? How do you explain it?
08:04 Well, My Time Magazine had an answer the other day,
08:06 I was reading Time Magazine it comes in the mail
08:09 and on the cover it said, how we became human.
08:12 I was flipping through it. It told us many of the
08:14 same stories. We share common ancestors
08:17 with the monkeys. It doesn't say we came
08:19 from monkeys. This article said that we share
08:21 common ancestors with monkeys and great apes
08:24 and so on, way back when we kind a split past
08:26 and some became chimpanzees,
08:28 and some became humans.
08:31 And what they are saying now is that we are
08:33 genetically speaking 98 percent chimpanzee.
08:38 We share 98 percent of our genetic material,
08:41 so obviously we come from a common ancestor.
08:43 We have the same great, great, great, great,
08:45 great, great, great, great... grandfather.
08:51 At some point chimpanzees and
08:52 so on split. Now I have been wondering what
08:55 does it mean when somebody says I am 98
08:59 percent chimpanzee. Exactly how much do
09:02 I have in common? How I am supposed to sort
09:04 this out and furthermore when they dig around
09:07 in the ground they find some very strange
09:08 looking things that they say hey,
09:10 this is obviously part ape and part human
09:12 or this is one of our ancestors,
09:14 so this is proof that we kind a diverse past,
09:16 what is all of that mean? Well you know what
09:18 I have an awful time explaining it.
09:20 I just can't explain at all and so I've invited
09:23 my good friend. Dr. Timothy Standish here
09:26 on to the program, he is going to help me explain
09:29 all of this and understand how it is
09:31 I am 98 percent chimpanzee.
09:33 Well, thanks very much for having me here
09:35 and so its a privilege, you know,
09:37 I think the first thing you got to understand
09:39 Shawn is that, that number is almost meaningless,
09:43 the 98 percent, the way that it's arrived at.
09:45 No, no, Dr. Standish to be honest I mean
09:48 I've checked out with some of my friends
09:50 and so on and I can see how they might be 98 percent
09:54 chimpanzee, I mean it just make sense.
09:56 Yeah, I will agree, you know,
09:57 certainly my mother has accused me of being
09:59 somewhat more than 98 percent chimpanzee
10:01 on occasion. But when you look at the DNA
10:06 in human beings and the DNA in chimpanzees
10:09 you simply do not get 98 percent identical.
10:12 Well, help me understand because My Time Magazine
10:14 says I am 98 percent chimpanzee.
10:16 Yes, using My Science Magazine actually nature,
10:20 which came out a couple of years ago,
10:22 where they actually compared these two
10:23 genomes and said 96 percent.
10:26 96, so they are not even really agreed
10:28 on the number yet. No, they not.
10:30 And there is a very good reason for that
10:31 it's very difficult to compare two different
10:35 things in way it's done, and actually come up
10:38 with the realistic number. You can think
10:40 of it like this. If you took two books
10:43 let's say the Bible and the Origin of Species.
10:45 Bible and Darwin. Yes. And you just look
10:48 at the letters that we use there.
10:50 Well, there is ABCDE the alphabet and some
10:54 punctuation and so on. In fact, if you just look
10:56 at those letters you would say exactly the same
10:59 letters that are used in the Bible,
11:00 and exactly the same letters that are used
11:02 to be Origin of Species, therefore they are
11:04 100 percent identical. Is that what they are doing
11:07 when they are saying I am 98 percent chimpanzee?
11:09 Not quite, however with the 98 percent number,
11:14 what they are doing is they actually taking genomes
11:17 and they are removing a whole bunch which
11:20 we won't worry about. And a genome is,
11:21 is the DNA, all of the DNA that's found in a
11:25 human being and all of the DNA that's found
11:28 in a chimpanzee, okay. And they remove a whole
11:31 bunch and then they compare what's left.
11:35 So this isn't based on the whole package.
11:38 The 98 percent number is not based on the entire
11:41 package even though it's spoken off
11:43 as if it is a meaningful number.
11:45 So they actually have to take stuff away
11:47 to start working on this and come to 98.
11:49 Yes, okay. You could use what was done,
11:52 this was some years ago. It's a text book example
11:54 of how to lie with statistics frankly because
11:57 and there are many other numbers some
12:00 99.4 percent is another publish number,
12:05 95 percent is another publish number,
12:08 and your prestigious scientific journals.
12:11 I think there is one that is 98.77 that
12:13 really sounds precise. Just like Ivory Soap.
12:17 Yes, yes, and obviously all of these numbers
12:22 can't be correct. And they are arrived
12:27 at by comparing in different ways,
12:30 even if they were correct and think about this,
12:33 there are 3 billion letters in the genetic
12:40 code that codes for you. 3 billion bits information.
12:45 3 billion yes. You can think of them as letters
12:48 in there except they are DNA letters, okay,
12:51 right, 3 billion of them. Actually you got 3 billion
12:55 from your mother and 3 billion from your father,
12:59 and that's an awful lot. If you would put them
13:01 altogether they would be about as tall as you
13:03 are about 2 meters in length from every single
13:09 cell in your body. Now 2 percent difference is a lot,
13:14 2 percent is 60 million differences between you
13:20 and a chimpanzee if 98 percent actually correct.
13:23 So they are trying to make it sound like were
13:25 virtually identical except for maybe a little extra
13:27 here and that kind of thing, precisely.
13:30 But that 2 percent represents an awful lot,
13:33 how much did you say? About 60 million. 60
13:35 million bits of information in that 2 percent
13:38 and that's after they already remove some
13:39 of the information. That's right. Amazing.
13:41 So even if you took at as being actually correct
13:45 it clearly isn't. Let me give you one other number
13:49 that sort of illustrates why these numbers
13:51 are fairly meaningless. The chimpanzee genome
13:55 is actually larger than the human being genome.
13:59 They actually have more information.
14:00 Well, they've got more DNA. More DNA.
14:02 Yes, about 6 to 7 percent more depending
14:06 on which estimates you look at.
14:09 So it's pretty hard to get 98 percent identical
14:12 out of something that's 6 or 7 percent bigger.
14:16 Right, so. And there are these differences,
14:19 they are not just sort of spread random throughout
14:22 these genomes. They are concentrated in
14:25 specific places, so for example genes that
14:28 are thought to have something to do
14:30 with intelligence. Right.
14:32 They are more different in human beings
14:35 than they are in chimpanzees,
14:37 so the difference is that they are significant
14:41 differences, yes. Obviously, look at the chimpanzee
14:45 and look at you. I hate to draw that comparison.
14:48 You are tempting my mother-in-law this evening
14:51 and I, but I hear what you are saying,
14:54 I mean I think about this in the marvel,
14:57 you know they say a chimpanzee would have,
14:59 has a vocabulary of 200 words,
15:01 they can't speak them, but it can recognize
15:02 200 symbols and we think wow,
15:04 but you know my two year old had
15:07 thousands of words. And obviously there
15:10 are huge differences, I mean you just look at the
15:12 chimpanzee obviously there are huge differences
15:15 between a chimpanzee and let's say my wife.
15:18 Me I won't say, my wife I will, I am safe there,
15:22 but just because there similarities doesn't mean
15:28 that you are looking at the same thing.
15:30 You also need to take into consideration those
15:32 differences, differences in the DNA,
15:35 but also DNA in the bodies, differences in the anatomy
15:41 of a chimpanzee and a human being or a gorilla
15:44 and a human being. Obviously,
15:47 there are huge differences;
15:48 this is not just intelligence,
15:50 numerous, numerous differences.
15:53 So that 60 million bits of information.
15:56 That's just a lot of difference it's a.
15:58 It's a very big difference.
15:59 I am sure I read somewhere they put a, you know,
16:01 they put a computer in the chimpanzee cage
16:03 went back to see what the chimpanzees
16:04 would do with it. Have you read about this?
16:07 Yeah, it was some kind of monkey,
16:08 I don't remember if it was chimpanzees.
16:10 You know, we have 98 percent in common what
16:12 will they do with this Macintosh computer.
16:15 Will they type Shakespeare?
16:16 Will they type Shakespeare, and basically they
16:18 threw their food at it and ate it with the rock.
16:21 As I recall they typed a lot of Ss.
16:23 That's right, one after the other.
16:24 So they liked "S" the letter S.
16:27 That's the 2 percent, right.
16:29 They are not building cities.
16:31 They are not driving cars. They haven't built
16:33 an airplane. They haven't done any of the things
16:34 that human beings have done and that 2 percent
16:37 is just that massive of a difference.
16:39 Except to this is not really 2 percent.
16:41 Right, of course. It's, it's figuring out
16:45 a realistic number for comparing two things
16:49 like this is probably not possible to do.
16:54 Okay, so that kind of solves that mystery.
16:56 Except for one thing, let me interrupt you, yeah.
16:58 There obviously chimpanzees are more
17:01 like us then let say snails. Yeah, okay.
17:05 Well, I have a relative that would probably.
17:07 Yes, they are on a sort of scale of things,
17:10 and some of the day, they are more like us
17:12 than snails, yes. And so it shouldn't be surprising
17:16 to find out that their DNA is more like us
17:20 than a snail or an oak tree or something like that.
17:23 Obviously, that is what we would expect.
17:26 So we would actually have DNA in common
17:28 with any living thing, yes.
17:30 And maybe even large amounts. Quite a bit.
17:33 Alright, you know, now that I mean this
17:35 98 percent thing, I've only really seen that in recent
17:38 years but when I was in high school they would
17:41 show us pictures of things, that they dug out of
17:43 the ground and they said, look at all the variety,
17:45 obviously some of these are part A,
17:47 and some of these, what about all these monkey men
17:49 that they dug out of the ground and paraded
17:51 in our school text books.
17:53 What's going on with the fossils of ancient humans
17:55 and so on? What do we really know, what's going on?
17:58 Oh! There is a lot to know but what you got
18:04 to understand is the evidence is really,
18:07 there are things that can be brought today
18:12 as evidence; however, it's not a lot.
18:15 If you want to go and see people who really
18:17 hate each other, go to a meeting of physical
18:20 anthropologist. Now these are the people who
18:23 study these things, right. They work with very
18:25 fragmentary evidence and it seems that
18:28 approximately every 6 months there is a big
18:31 announcement that comes out that I think
18:33 corresponds with the meetings of these
18:35 organizations that says, how we've got some
18:38 new thing that means completely redrawing
18:41 the evolutionary history of man.
18:43 Now sometimes it's something that might be
18:49 more dramatic, other times well, I give
18:51 you one example; one time it was a single bone,
18:55 the size of a grain of rice. Wow.
19:00 Yes, apparently it was an ankle bone from something
19:02 that was thought to be an ancestor to apes or
19:06 something. See there is a lot of this kind of thing
19:10 that's goes on, however, in some cases there
19:16 are some very spectacular fossils and we have a
19:20 couple of examples of them right here.
19:22 This first one is one that a lot of people will
19:25 have heard of, its Australopithecus afarensis,
19:30 and Australopithecus afarensis,
19:32 people normally think of this one as Lucy.
19:35 This is Lucy found in Africa.
19:37 That's right, and Lucy is actually when you read
19:46 the scientific literature, not necessarily a direct
19:49 ancestor of human beings, in fact,
19:51 almost every example of something like Lucy.
19:56 After people have looked out them for a while,
19:58 they come to conclusion that they maybe
20:02 related to something that was an ancestor.
20:05 They are like a branch that went off the evolutionary
20:08 tree and then died out, but we stayed on the
20:11 main trunk and some how so do the chimpanzees
20:16 is on a different branch. The interesting thing
20:20 about this particular fossil, you know,
20:23 I hold this skull in my hand and it looks so real
20:27 and complete in everything, yeah.
20:30 However, when you look at what actually been
20:33 found it isn't anything like this.
20:35 It's actually fragmentary, a few pieces of the
20:40 cranium here maybe one or two other bits
20:43 and probably the most complete thing would
20:45 be the lower jaw the mandible.
20:47 So this is not actually what they found.
20:50 No, no. What they found didn't actually
20:52 look like this? No. so how do we get this?
20:54 Well, what happens is, scientists they sit down
20:57 with fragments and they try to figure out
20:59 how they would go together and obviously how
21:04 you think they are going to go together
21:05 is influenced by what you already believe
21:08 to be true? Now I am not willing to say this
21:11 is a bad reconstruction, I really don't know.
21:15 However, there is some debate about how do
21:18 we even reconstruct these things,
21:20 and there are very few of them.
21:24 That's what makes them some so exciting,
21:26 and that's why every time something like this
21:27 is found all of a sudden the evolutionary tree
21:30 gets redrawn. There is very little data to go off.
21:34 So, really if there are lots of these
21:37 ancient ancestors for man as they try to say,
21:40 there should be lots of them.
21:42 Yeah, precisely. But we don't find lots of.
21:44 However, because we don't find lots of them,
21:47 then what people say is well,
21:49 that's because the populations
21:51 were very small. Dr. Standish tell me
21:53 about this guy because this also looks like
21:56 somebody I know, and who is this now?
22:01 This is Neanderthal man. This is Neanderthal man.
22:04 That's Neanderthal man, yes,
22:05 and there is lots of debate, you know,
22:08 people talking about what could this individual
22:11 talk and by the way there is lots of example
22:13 of these. They have been found in Israel
22:15 and in Germany and a number of other places,
22:19 and there is no doubt that this is not a guess
22:24 or something reconstructing one,
22:26 and they are different from modern human beings.
22:28 Well, I tell you what I was taught,
22:30 I mean if I were to listen to my
22:32 high school teacher he said, this was a
22:34 big lumbering, this is what I was told.
22:36 He was a big lumbering ancestor of mine but
22:38 he was kind of a half way dumb and mostly monkey,
22:42 that's what I was told by a teacher, say,
22:45 I mean obviously he is my ancestor because
22:48 he was dumb and now we are smart.
22:49 In fact, you find modern humans at about,
22:54 you know, of the same sort of levels
22:57 in the rock hole. They actually find us
23:00 together with. Yes, there is overlap between
23:04 these guys and us. The interesting thing
23:06 is these guys actually had a larger brain.
23:09 Their brain was bigger than ours.
23:10 Yes, which is, it's very hard to argue that they
23:14 were stupid, if brain size means anything at all,
23:19 right. Now brain size is not completely correlated
23:22 with the intelligence, but it's.
23:25 I like to think so because I have an unusually
23:27 fat head and. Yes, I know,
23:29 I have a trouble getting hats that fit as well.
23:34 But in any case a larger brain and in addition
23:38 to that they have bodies that seem to been built
23:42 more robust to live in our end. Have you ever
23:45 seen a reconstruction of one of these with
23:47 the sort of stooped over. Yeah, exactly.
23:49 Ape like, those reconstructions probably
23:51 come from two things, one the preconception
23:54 that they were sort of a missing link,
23:56 so they had to be more ape like than us.
23:59 And in addition to that one of the early specimens
24:03 had arthritis apparently and that, you know,
24:08 so they are bit stooped over and that was
24:10 then emphasized obviously by those who believe
24:14 they had to be sort of stooped over
24:16 all most knuckle walkers like.
24:17 Somebody said they are all like that, yes,
24:19 based on a small sample.
24:21 Yes, but they buried the dead and had left
24:28 little gifts and so on and flowers and so on
24:30 with them, so it's hard to argue that they were
24:35 subhuman in some, in anyone.
24:38 They just looked different than you and I perhaps.
24:40 Yes, hopefully different from you and I,
24:42 but not from some people as you
24:44 mentioned that may we know.
24:46 Well, now look at this little bitty one here.
24:48 Who is this I mean here is the thing that
24:50 I am noticing these all you know perhaps,
24:53 you know, some people will say this is human,
24:56 some people say this is not human,
24:57 but there is such variety and look at this
25:01 little bitty skull here. Who is this?
25:02 This is the hobbit, people call it.
25:06 It's a recent discovery from an island
25:09 in Indonesia called Homo floresiensis,
25:12 and there is also debate about this,
25:15 this is a classic example of how debate
25:19 can rage in the community of scientists
25:23 that study these things. Is it the midget
25:26 human being, is it a midget of one of the sort
25:30 of ancestral human beings,
25:31 is it a microcephalic. Oh you're gonna
25:35 have to unpack that for me?
25:36 Microcephaly is a congenital deformity,
25:40 somebody who is born with a very small brain,
25:42 okay. And they tend to be little less intelligent
25:47 than the average. There is something that
25:50 I want to show you about these two in particular,
25:54 and what I want to show you is actually
25:57 something modern, you know, pull up a skull
26:00 here and I have been testing people
26:02 who come into my office. I have been asking
26:04 them what creature does this skull belong to,
26:11 and I've gotten all kinds of theories
26:14 about that one. And I will pull up another
26:17 one here maybe this one here.
26:23 There you go, we don't want to,
26:25 there we go that one, its kind of a large skull.
26:28 If you look at the size difference between
26:30 these two it's, yeah. It seems to be more
26:34 than a size difference seen between these two here.
26:36 Absolutely. And yet these are dogs.
26:39 This is a Chinchilla, this is a St. Bernard.
26:42 They are both dogs. They are both dogs.
26:44 Now if I was digging these things up of the ground,
26:49 out of the ground, and I've never seen them
26:53 as living dogs. I don't think that I would
26:56 conclude that they were the same species.
26:58 No they look radically different to me.
27:00 Yes, but they are both dogs.
27:02 But they are both dogs. So these two could both
27:05 be human. Yes, that certainly what I believe.
27:09 So I mean I guess I can see that you know
27:11 I've got a friend now who is in the Congo jungle
27:14 and there is a whole group of people there
27:15 who are quite physiologically different
27:18 from me because they are really quite short,
27:20 the pygmies, yes. And yet we are both human.
27:23 Am I following the argument?
27:26 Yes, exactly now the interesting thing about
27:28 them and you being human actually comes
27:32 back to I think the central point or one of
27:34 the points that we would both like to make
27:36 and that is both were created ultimately,
27:40 according to the Bible, in the image of God.
27:44 These people in the Congo just last week,
27:46 I have been teaching students from the Congo
27:49 in Africa myself. These people are
27:52 a 100 percent human, absolutely,
27:54 a 100 intelligent I can assure of you that
27:56 and wonderful human beings and as much
28:01 value as us. According to the Bible because it says,
28:05 we were created in the image of God.
28:08 So just because this looks different than
28:11 this and both of them would look different
28:12 from my remains if somebody find it that
28:15 does not mean that this was another species
28:17 necessarily or that this was my ancestor millions
28:21 of years ago and we've more after
28:22 we could all be human. Exactly, in fact,
28:26 one of the very common things you see
28:28 in the fossil record is as you go down through
28:31 these layers of rock you find organisms
28:34 that are more profoundly different from each
28:38 other than at the top which is exactly
28:42 the opposite of what evolution predicts.
28:46 You see it with many groups of animals,
28:50 these different profoundly different
28:52 groups and then they sort of tend to die out
28:56 and you wind up with one or two types.
28:57 Today, we really only have one type of human
29:00 being living and yet in the past it appears
29:03 that there was greater diversity than today.
29:06 Amazing, now the fossil record you're gonna
29:09 help me unpack a little bit at our next meeting,
29:12 but I really want to thank you. I wish we had
29:15 hours and hours for this because
29:17 this is just fascinating. And they could both
29:20 be human and yet different and
29:21 all made in the image of God.
29:23 That's what I believe.
29:24 Dr. Standish thank you so much for joining me.
29:26 Thank you. Listen who you are really,
29:31 really matters, where you come from matters.
29:35 I've already discovered that at some point
29:37 your kids come to you and they ask that question.
29:40 Daddy where do I come from? You know
29:45 the answer to that, don't you?
29:47 Go ask your mother. But daddy I already
29:52 did and she said that you could tell me.
29:54 Well, honey you come from Canada.
30:00 You know what that was good enough
30:01 at that point, she was happy with that.
30:02 Now she knows she is Canadian,
30:04 she is going to be happy for a little while.
30:05 But everybody ask the question where do
30:07 I come from? Who am I? Why do we wanna know that?
30:10 We wanna know that because who you
30:12 are matters. Who you are, where you come
30:14 from tells you how to live your life.
30:17 If you can figure out where you come from
30:18 you could might be able to figure out
30:20 where you are going. If you know who you are,
30:22 you know how to spend your time on planet earth.
30:25 We've been telling our kids for the last
30:27 150 years that they are animals and then
30:29 we are shocked when they behave that way,
30:31 amazing. Who you are matters because you get
30:35 traits from where you come from.
30:37 My brother and I used to make fun of dad
30:39 because he would sit in the easy-chair
30:40 and if he was reading his newspaper in the evening
30:44 he would fall asleep in the chair. But just
30:46 before he fell asleep, he do the most
30:48 unusual thing. He start kicking his leg just
30:51 like that, just as he was falling asleep
30:53 and the next thing you know he start kicking
30:55 the other leg just like that and that soon
30:57 both be going like he was riding a bicycle.
30:59 And my brother and I watch hey look Dad
31:01 is falling asleep he is doing it again,
31:03 riding the bike and we would laugh and laugh
31:05 and laugh right up into the point.
31:08 A couple of years ago when my wife
31:10 woke me up at 11'o clock at night
31:12 and said what are you doing with your feet,
31:14 it is driving me nuts, I was riding
31:16 the bicycle in bed. Where you come from
31:21 matters because that's where you get
31:22 your traits. If I'm nothing but an animal
31:25 that says something about how I am gonna
31:27 live my life. But if God is my heavenly
31:30 father that says something about how
31:32 I am supposed to spend my time here
31:34 on planet earth, and now it's time
31:37 to take out lesson number two.
31:53 When you go out in your world and nature,
31:56 but how many of you like to go camping,
31:58 like to get out in nature especially when you are
32:00 living in a city? Like to get out and you see
32:02 the beauty of God's nature? You have
32:06 to ask yourself a question. And I wanna
32:08 invite you who are joining us via television
32:11 satellite or watching on a DVD take out your
32:13 lesson number two. When you look around
32:17 at all the beauty in God's nature,
32:21 and you have to ask yourself a question
32:23 why did he create all of this anyway,
32:28 what's the purpose? Isaiah chapter 45
32:31 and verse 18 says, what does this passage
32:33 of scripture say about the purpose of creation?
32:36 What does it tell us about why we're here?
32:38 And I wanna look right out that passage now.
32:41 For thus says the Lord, Who created the heavens,
32:45 Who is God, Who formed the earth and made it,
32:51 He Who has established it, Who did not create
32:55 it in vain, Who formed it to be what, inhabited:
32:59 "I am the Lord, and there is no other".
33:03 What was the reason God made this world?
33:07 To be inhabited, he made it as a home.
33:10 You know, it reminds me of my grandparents back
33:13 in Texas when I was in early teen,
33:16 I was in my early teens and they lived
33:19 on a farm in West Texas.
33:21 And I can remember they had, their house
33:24 was kind of an older house and my dad
33:26 and my uncle and several of our family members
33:29 got together and said we are gonna get them
33:30 a new house. So they actually got a new home
33:34 for them and put it right next to the old one
33:37 on their farm. And for a whole year,
33:41 for a whole year my grandparents lived
33:44 in the old house and when anybody
33:45 would come over there they would take
33:46 them over and show them the new one,
33:48 but they didn't live in it. There was something
33:51 about that you know a house is made
33:53 to live in isn't it? So finally one day
33:57 all of their kids, my parents and my aunts
34:00 and uncles came and started moving
34:03 their things. My granddad came and he says
34:05 well it looks like we're moving anyway
34:07 you know and isn't it true that when
34:11 we build a house is meant to be inhabited.
34:14 And the same thing on this planet,
34:16 this world was created by God; He did not
34:19 created in vain. I find that passage just a
34:22 little bit interesting. Why he has said
34:24 in scripture He didn't created in vain.
34:27 If there was no one to inhabit this beautiful
34:30 creation, it would be in vain wouldn't it?
34:33 He says I am the Lord and there is no other.
34:37 So the purpose of creation in number one
34:41 is he made the world to be inhabited.
34:46 Now according to the biblical account
34:49 of creation, what did God do with
34:51 human beings that He did not do with any
34:53 other living creatures? Let's look at
34:55 Genesis 1:27, So God created man in His
34:59 own what, image, in his own image;
35:02 In the image of God He created him;
35:04 male and female He created them.
35:07 What does it mean to be created in the
35:09 image of God? What do you think?
35:13 Like this, okay like this. You know there are
35:16 elements about us that are like God.
35:22 You know he gave us the ability to think,
35:24 we're gonna talk about that here
35:25 in just a little bit. You know if you were
35:28 to see God, which in our current condition
35:30 we don't have that privilege.
35:32 You know if we're made in his image that means
35:35 you are gonna be able to recognize that
35:38 we are like him, isn't it, okay. He makes a big
35:42 point of pointing it out in the image of God,
35:44 He created him, okay, and I know,
35:47 I'm gonna look forward some day in heavenly
35:51 university in class number 101 to learning
35:55 a little bit more about how this all works
35:58 but right now I accept what the scripture say.
36:02 And I don't know about you but that's God
36:04 is trying to tell us, He has made us very,
36:07 very special, okay. Line number two,
36:10 question number two, God created us
36:12 in His image, okay. In 1 Corinthians 11:7
36:18 it continues on, For a man indeed ought
36:20 not to cover his head, since he is in the image
36:23 and glory of God. Again in the New Testament
36:27 we're pointed out that we were made
36:29 in the image, but not only image it says
36:31 the glory of God. There is something special
36:34 about the human family. What are some of the
36:38 ways that human beings are like God?
36:41 Anyone, reasoning, okay, reasoning thank you.
36:45 We have the ability to reason, okay.
36:49 You can otherwise you can do deductive reasoning
36:52 or inductive reasoning. We have the ability
36:54 to look from cause to affect.
36:56 We have the ability to think and look at that,
36:58 someone else, love, we love.
37:01 We have the ability to love which is what do
37:04 the Bible say God is love.
37:06 Last evening in our lesson we looked at
37:08 three different places where it talked about
37:10 God is love, okay. I would like to have you
37:13 put down in there reason. We have the
37:15 ability to think in a complex manner.
37:18 To love, you may wanna write down to love,
37:21 okay. What are other ideas that we other ways
37:24 that human beings are like God.
37:29 Okay, we have the power of choice.
37:30 We have the ability to choose, you can put that
37:33 down under number B. Human beings have the
37:36 ability to make choices, okay.
37:40 You may also want to think in terms of we have
37:43 the ability to think morally, okay.
37:46 That means that we have the ability to discern
37:49 between what is right and what is wrong,
37:52 that's what choice is all about.
37:54 We have that ability to determine what that is?
37:58 Someone else had a comment, being creative.
38:01 Okay being creative, you know have you ever
38:06 noticed a beautiful piece of art work
38:09 or have you seen something that someone
38:11 does I admire when someone is able to make
38:13 these beautiful quilts. You know how
38:16 the beautiful, you know pieces and stitching
38:19 and so on. We have the ability to be
38:21 incredibly creative; alright, so you may
38:24 want to write that down. We also I want to
38:27 suggest have the ability to hope, don't we?
38:32 As human beings we have the hope that tomorrow
38:35 will be better than today.
38:38 There is a sense of purpose that we can
38:41 have as human beings and that is also
38:44 like God. Do you think God has a hope that
38:46 things are going to be different tomorrow
38:48 for us? I absolutely believe he will.
38:51 Okay, there is another one, pardon me,
38:57 forgiveness. Okay, the ability to forgive
39:00 that's like God. You know I think that this morning
39:06 he forgave me for some things.
39:08 And I suspect he also forgave you
39:10 if you ask him too and we have the ability
39:13 to forgive someone else which also ties back
39:18 in the area of love. Love indicates a relationship
39:26 and we are like God in that, we can have
39:30 relationships that are based on love.
39:33 Okay those are just a few of the ways
39:36 and you may think of some other ways
39:37 and I invite you to write those down here
39:39 in your lesson of ways that human beings
39:42 are like God. Now, what does Psalm chapter 8
39:47 tell us about our place in God's creation?
39:52 Have you ever known someone that just
39:55 felt like, they didn't have any reason to exist,
39:58 they had what we call low self-esteem.
40:03 You know like I don't have any value,
40:06 nobody likes me, I can't do anything,
40:08 you know you get into that whole thing
40:10 where you're down on yourself or someone
40:12 is down on themselves, and it goes the other
40:17 direction of what God wants us to do.
40:18 I want you to notice as we read this passage
40:21 of scripture. The high and elevated position
40:26 that God has for every human being
40:30 and if you are someone that has been suffering
40:33 from low self-esteem, I want you to read
40:35 this very, very carefully with me,
40:38 okay. O Lord, our Lord, how excellent
40:43 is Your name in all the earth, You who set Your
40:46 glory above the heavens!
40:49 Out of the mouth of babes and nursing infants
40:52 You have ordained strength.
40:55 Now I just gonna pause for a moment.
40:57 Does a little baby have very much strength?
41:00 Not physically, but they have strength
41:03 to move you. When a little baby cries
41:07 what happens you move, if they are hungry
41:10 what you do, you feed them. Out of the
41:12 mouths of babes, you ordained strength
41:14 because of your enemies that you may silence
41:17 the enemy and the avenger.
41:19 When I consider Your heavens,
41:23 the work of Your fingers, the moon and the stars,
41:25 which You have ordained. Notice that
41:27 he is beginning to compare all of the
41:29 broad-brush of creation. What is man that
41:33 You are mindful of him, and the son of man that
41:35 You visit him? In another words why Lord in this
41:40 vast creation of everything that you have,
41:42 why do you even paying attention to little lower
41:45 than me. For You have made him a little lower
41:48 than the angels, and look, and You have crowned
41:52 him with glory and honor. Crowned,
41:56 what does it mean to be crowned?
41:58 When a person received a crown that meant
42:01 that they were royalty. They were in a special
42:05 class all on their own. God is saying
42:09 what is man that You are mindful of him.
42:11 Actually David is writing this Psalm,
42:14 and the son of man that You visit him?
42:15 For You have made him a little lower than
42:17 the angels, and You have crowned him with
42:18 glory and honor. That is saying wow God,
42:22 how can it be? You have made me very,
42:27 very special. And I want you to think
42:30 about tonight, how special you are to God.
42:35 Every single human being that is on this planet
42:39 is special to God, created in his image,
42:41 made just a little lower than the angels
42:44 and crowned with glory and honor.
42:48 Did God have a high and noble objective for
42:53 the human family? It's incredible when you
42:55 think about it. Okay, I want you to write
42:56 down these three, these three things.
42:58 What does Psalm 8 tell us about our place
43:00 in God's creation? That we were created
43:03 just little lower than the angles,
43:05 okay that's number one. Number two that
43:08 we were crowned with glory and honor.
43:11 Now the third thing that comes out of this,
43:15 You have made him to have dominion over
43:18 the works of Your hands; and You have put
43:21 all things under his feet, all sheep and oxen
43:24 even the beasts of the field.
43:25 In fact the managers, the stewards of the other
43:28 created beings are under the direct control
43:33 of the human family. Pretty incredible
43:36 and pretty awesome, so third thing I put custody
43:38 of the planet. You put all things under his feet,
43:43 the birds of the air, and the fish of the sea
43:45 that pass through the paths of the seas.
43:47 O Lord, our Lord, how excellent is Your name
43:51 in all the earth! I want to go to question
43:56 number five. When was the human race
43:58 established as the "manager" of planet Earth?
44:02 And what does this say about the evolutionary
44:04 theory of the descent of man from lesser animals?
44:08 We are gonna look at Genesis chapter 1
44:10 verses 26 to 28. Then God said,
44:14 "Let Us make man in Our image,
44:16 according to Our likeness; let them have dominion
44:20 over the fish of the sea, over the birds
44:22 of the air, and over the cattle, over all the earth
44:24 and over every creeping thing that creeps upon
44:26 the earth." And so God created man
44:29 in His own image; in the image of God
44:30 He created him; male and female He created them.
44:33 Then God blessed them, and God said to them,
44:36 "Be fruitful an multiply, fill the earth
44:39 and subdue it; have dominion over the fish
44:41 of the sea, over the birds of the air,
44:43 and over every living thing that moves on
44:45 the earth." Now I wanna just point out something
44:48 that's interesting, the answer to this question,
44:50 let's get the answer out first.
44:52 We were created to manage it, okay at the
44:55 very beginning the question was.
44:57 When was the human race established
44:59 as the "manager" of the planet?
45:01 At the beginning, we were created to do this job.
45:04 It was created for us. What does this say
45:07 about the evolutionary theory of the descent
45:09 of man from lesser animals?
45:12 What does God say, God gave mankind dominion
45:16 over the animals in fact if you read in
45:18 Genesis 1 it says that the first man named
45:22 all the animals didn't he? Okay, he named them,
45:26 okay. And we are to fill the earth and subdue it.
45:29 Now here is an interesting thing,
45:30 one of the characteristics of God that he has given
45:33 to the human family. You know from our knowledge
45:36 of the study of scriptures, angels
45:38 don't have children. In God's broad-brush
45:45 of creation, the part of the recreation,
45:50 the ability to procreate if you will
45:53 to have children, to have ourselves
45:57 replicated in another generation is something
46:01 that is unique and a unique gift that he has
46:04 given to us. He said be fruitful and multiply
46:07 and fill the earth. There is something about
46:09 what God is setting emotion here
46:11 and allowing us to be part of that's absolutely
46:14 phenomenal, and when you stop and think about it,
46:18 is even something that a lot of his other creation
46:21 does not have according to scripture.
46:25 Doesn't that make you feel odd, and special
46:29 to think that God is making something
46:32 so special out of us, okay. What does Jesus'
46:35 statement in Mark chapter 12 verses
46:37 29 to 31 have to say about our purpose
46:40 as created beings? And how do we find real
46:45 purpose in life? Have you ever had that
46:47 question go through your mind?
46:48 You know what is my purpose in life?
46:50 You know you heard, you heard
46:51 Dr. Standish and Pastor Shawn talking
46:54 about that, what is my purpose.
46:56 God has a purpose for every one of us,
46:58 we are gonna look at what Mark chapter 12
47:00 says about this. And Jesus answered him,
47:03 "The first of all the commandments is:
47:05 'Hear, O Israel, the Lord our God,
47:07 the Lord is one. And you shall love the Lord
47:11 your God with all your heart,
47:12 with all your soul, with all your mind,
47:14 and with all your strength.'
47:15 This is the first commandment, okay.
47:17 Notice that the first thing that
47:20 he talks about in this relationship is our
47:23 relationship to our creator. Okay, there is a
47:25 relationship between us and the one who
47:28 made us okay. Now notice the second thing,
47:31 and the second is like, is like it, is this:
47:33 'You shall love your neighbor as yourself.'
47:36 There is no other commandment greater
47:37 than these." What does Jesus say about our
47:40 purpose as created beings? We are to be in
47:43 relationship with him as our creator.
47:45 Number two, we are to be in relationship
47:47 with each other as part of the human family.
47:52 He created us to be in relationship vertically
47:55 with him, horizontally with each other.
47:59 Everything else hinges on those two points,
48:03 okay. Now number seven, For centuries,
48:07 the human race has struggled to find a
48:09 philosophical reason for strong ethics
48:11 and moral principles. We instinctively know
48:14 that we should treat each other well.
48:17 What purpose and motivation does the Bible
48:19 give for treating other people well?
48:23 Let's look at Genesis chapter 9 and James
48:26 chapter 3 and we are gonna ask the question
48:29 how is this different from survival of
48:31 the fittest, okay. Surely for your lifeblood
48:33 I will demand a reckoning; from the hand of every
48:35 beast I will require it, and from the hand
48:37 of man. From the hand of every man's brother
48:40 I will require the life of man.
48:42 "Whoever sheds man's blood, by man his blood
48:44 shall be shed; for in the image of God
48:46 He made man." Now what does it talking about?
48:49 Is it in the early days as Israel was coming out
48:52 of slavery in Egypt? They were trying
48:55 to kind of restructure their society.
48:57 He is pointing out the value of life.
48:59 He said if someone kills a human being whether
49:03 it would be an animal or another human being
49:05 their blood will be required because the
49:07 man was made in the image of God, okay.
49:10 He is pointing out the value and how that
49:13 there could not be this kind of behavior
49:17 and treatment by one man towards another
49:21 or even towards the beast, okay.
49:23 Now let's go to James chapter 3.
49:27 With it we bless our God and Father,
49:29 and with it we curse men, who have been
49:30 made in the similitude of God. He is talking
49:33 about killing and cursing, okay.
49:36 He is saying that these things should not
49:38 be because why? Man is made in the similitude
49:44 of God. So we are supposed to treat each
49:47 other as if we are all children and brothers
49:53 and sisters in Christ Jesus. Now the question
49:55 I have, how does that relate to survival
49:59 of the fittest? Survival of the fittest tells
50:02 you what, get rid of your competitor.
50:06 Somebody is challenging you, you get rid of them
50:08 and you will be the one that dominates.
50:11 But yet Christ says no if someone is in that
50:17 kind of a situation blood will be required
50:19 for blood. You cannot take the life of another
50:23 human being, okay. That shows you know
50:26 it's just, the thing I want you to write down
50:28 there is that there is a sacred trust that goes
50:32 as being a child of God. And one of God's
50:37 children is to be treated just as something special
50:42 one of God's children as a sacred trust.
50:43 It is just exactly the opposite of survival
50:47 of fittest; you may want to write that down
50:48 to opposite of survival of the fittest.
50:54 What is the ultimate statement of the value
50:56 that God puts on the human race?
50:59 What is the ultimate statement? We are gonna
51:02 look at Philippians chapter 2 verses 5
51:04 through 8 and John 3:16. Let this mind be
51:08 in you which was also in Christ Jesus,
51:11 who, being in the form of God, did not consider
51:14 it robbery to be equal with God but made
51:17 Himself of no reputation, taking the
51:20 form of a servant, and coming in the likeness
51:24 of men. The ultimate statement of the value
51:30 of the human family is that God chose to allow
51:37 one of His intimate Godhood,
51:41 His son Jesus Christ to actually come down
51:44 and become part of us. Is that an incredible thing?
51:50 God says okay my creation I'm going to let
51:53 him become part of you. It's like you know
51:57 I've tried to visualize how it would be that
52:00 God would come down and become part
52:01 of the human family become man. It's like,
52:05 this is the one illustration that
52:08 I thought of it, it's like an artist painting
52:09 a picture. You've watched an artist
52:10 painting a beautiful masterpiece and it's like
52:13 the artist is painting this masterpiece
52:16 and all of a sudden he begins to paint himself
52:21 into that masterpiece. So that now he is forever
52:24 a part of the masterpiece that
52:26 he is painting and he has given up
52:29 the role that he had before to now become
52:32 part of the painting. I know that may be just
52:34 a crude kind of a thing that I can relate
52:37 to today, but it's like that. God allowed
52:39 his son to come and be part of us.
52:43 That's the ultimate statement and being
52:45 found in appearance as a man,
52:47 He humbled Himself and became obedient
52:49 to the point of death, even the death
52:51 of the cross. He died on that cross to reconcile
52:54 the sin that is a barrier that separates us
52:57 from the creator God. Now John 3:16,
53:00 For God so loved the world that He gave
53:02 His only begotten Son, that whoever believes
53:05 in Him should not perish but have everlasting life.
53:11 That's the ultimate statement about
53:13 the value of humanity. And the idea that
53:16 we came out of some prime model swamp
53:18 and came out through this chain of lower
53:20 animals to somehow arrived now which
53:23 means that, if that's true then we ought to
53:25 be continuing on to get better and better
53:27 and better should we in our society.
53:29 Have you all watch the news lately,
53:30 doesn't look like we are getting any better.
53:33 I'll take the Bible thank you, I'll take the Bible.
53:38 His own became one of us.
53:41 Now I wanna invite you to just think about
53:45 that for a minute and make a decision about it.
53:50 When it says God so loved the world
53:53 someone mentioned that love was a characteristic
53:55 of God. Because God so loved the world
54:01 it's like love is reaching out to every one
54:03 of us right now. He is reaching out
54:04 to you where you are right now.
54:06 Sir, madam he is reaching out to you right where
54:09 you are right now. Now I wanna invite you
54:12 to respond to that love that is being extended
54:17 towards you, that has been personified
54:21 in so many ways through Jesus Christ.
54:23 I wanna invite you to just now while I bow
54:26 my head and you bow yours to say God
54:31 I respond to that love, thank you let me
54:33 be yours. Bow your heads with me
54:35 right now, would you please.
54:37 Lord as many within the sound of my voice
54:41 are responding to your Holy Spirit right
54:44 this moment, I pray that you would draw
54:46 as in your love. Let us feel that love that
54:49 spoken of in John 3:16. Let us know what
54:52 it means to be wooed by you, to be drawn
54:56 by you because we are special.
55:00 We are created in your image,
55:01 we are somebody because of Jesus.
55:05 Thank you Holy Father for that idea and someone
55:10 may be listening right now who is struggling
55:12 with a low self-esteem. God let them realize
55:16 right now that you would have come and died
55:20 on that cross for them if they had been
55:22 the only person to be accepted your love.
55:26 Let us know how valuable each one of us really are,
55:28 it's my prayer in Jesus name, amen.