Living to Be Well

Genuine Friendship

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00:35 Hi, I'm Dr. Kim, and welcome to Live to be Well.
00:39 Today, on our program,
00:41 we're going to talk about genuine friendship,
00:43 friendship in a good healthy marriage.
00:46 Can you be friends in your marriage?
00:48 I think so.
00:50 I want to welcome my wonderful guests,
00:51 and they're not just guests, they're my friends,
00:54 Mr. Marvin and Dr. Sharon Harrison.
00:57 Welcome to Live to be Well.
00:59 Hey, how you doing, Kim? How you doing?
01:01 You all right? You all right? Good, I'm doing fine.
01:02 You're looking good Thank you.
01:04 Well, listen, how long have you guys been married?
01:07 Thirty years, October, the 27.
01:10 What? 2017.
01:11 Yeah, my goodness.
01:13 All right, well, let us tell everyone
01:15 how I first met both of you.
01:18 I met Brother Harrison at the Burns Avenue
01:22 Seventh-day Adventist Church,
01:23 Pastor Marshall T. Kelly was our pastor.
01:26 But you were my Sabbath school teacher.
01:28 We used to run off fast to that balcony,
01:31 get our seats because if you didn't get there on time,
01:33 you would not have a seat in your class.
01:36 But it also prepared us to stay in the church
01:40 but have a relationship with Jesus
01:41 because of the way you taught us about Jesus,
01:45 so can you imagine having
01:46 Pastor Marshall T. Kelly as your pastor,
01:49 and then but the Marvin Harrison
01:50 as your Sabbath school teacher,
01:52 we had the best of both worlds, all right.
01:55 And we never wanted to go home, all right.
01:57 Oh, boy. It's wonderful.
01:58 And then, down the road, I joined,
02:02 I transferred churches,
02:04 and I became a member of City Temple,
02:06 and I looked up, and you were there,
02:08 but you had a beautiful woman with you, all right.
02:12 So let's talk about how you both met,
02:16 and how you became a Seventh-day Adventist,
02:19 all right.
02:20 Well, I was student teaching and Marvin was the art teacher.
02:26 No.
02:29 Oh, this is going to be good.
02:30 It is going to be good,
02:32 so I'm in the school my first day.
02:33 Yes.
02:35 And this gentleman comes up to me, and he says,
02:37 "May I see you?"
02:38 And I was like, "Oh, my God.
02:40 I'm only here the first day, and I'm in trouble already."
02:42 Needless to say I was.
02:44 And so, I thought he was the principal
02:46 and that I had done something wrong,
02:48 so I go to him, and I'm like, you know, "Yes."
02:52 And he's like, "How are you, what is your name?"
02:55 Don't do that.
02:57 No, he didn't hit on you? Yes.
02:59 Yes, he did. First day.
03:01 First day, you didn't have a chance.
03:03 No. So what happened?
03:05 So we started talking,
03:07 and I thought he was just a wonderful gentleman,
03:09 just so nice and very good looking.
03:11 Yes, yes, yes, yes.
03:13 And so, we actually...
03:17 I think after school, I went through my day,
03:19 we exchanged numbers,
03:20 and then he came home with me and met my mom.
03:23 That same day? Yes.
03:25 Oh, my goodness, you were serious?
03:27 Yeah. Oh, man.
03:29 So then what did mom think?
03:31 Of course, I called my girlfriends and said,
03:32 "Guess what, I've got the art teacher."
03:34 These all inside things I don't know.
03:37 Okay.
03:38 All right, so what did your mom think?
03:40 Oh, she thought he was really nice.
03:43 She said, "This is such a nice, you know, guy."
03:47 You know, we just instantly became friends,
03:49 just really in-depth conversations, immediately,
03:52 and you know, just from then,
03:54 and in during my student teaching at there,
03:57 we were just very, very good friends.
03:59 So how long did you date before you became man and wife?
04:04 About a year. About a year.
04:07 But there was a little segue or little space in between.
04:14 We broke up, no? Yes, we broke up.
04:16 Okay, calling what it is, you broke up.
04:19 Well, I thought that she was...
04:23 I really liked her a lot in terms of love...
04:29 I loved her. Really?
04:31 But I thought she was a little speedy, you know,
04:35 they used to call fast.
04:36 You know...
04:39 She want, you know, she want I think party...
04:44 But that wasn't your scene? That really wasn't me.
04:47 Okay, all right.
04:49 Not that I didn't go out or anything like that.
04:53 But she was...
04:54 Something about her that attracted me,
04:56 not only the beauty but her intelligence.
04:59 She is very intelligent indeed.
05:00 And that's what really captured.
05:04 Can hold a conversation. Exactly.
05:07 Yes, you know, beauty inward and outward,
05:09 intellectual beauty.
05:10 'Cause she was only young...
05:12 Well, was 20 something.
05:14 You were 33, and I was about 22.
05:15 I was 33. What?
05:18 Okay. All right, I forget about it.
05:22 So I was supposed to be.
05:24 That's true. Yes.
05:26 Yeah, there's a big gap there too.
05:28 Okay.
05:29 All right, so that is your side.
05:32 That is my side. Yeah.
05:33 So you see, right? Yes.
05:35 All the women wanted to be with Marvin,
05:40 and I think at that time, I just felt
05:43 that I didn't want to be part of a community.
05:47 Oh, come on, now, community... Let him say that.
05:50 Okay, go ahead.
05:51 Yeah, I mean, he was a teacher.
05:53 And so teachers are mostly women,
05:55 and he was quite popular, but I will say too,
05:58 I know that he was way more settled.
06:00 I will agree as you were saying that,
06:02 he was way more settled
06:04 'cause I was just coming out of school,
06:05 you know, about to graduate,
06:07 so I really wasn't quite ready for the seriousness
06:10 of the kind of relationship that he wanted,
06:13 but I liked that he was introducing me
06:16 to a different lifestyle like with Marvin,
06:19 the first time I had like a big frank,
06:22 you know, that's a veggie hot dog,
06:24 you know, but he was into the health message,
06:27 and so, I saw that, you know, there's something
06:30 very intriguing about this gentleman.
06:32 You know, he is handsome, he is a teacher,
06:34 we share this education thing,
06:36 and then he is also very health minded.
06:40 And I had never met anyone
06:42 that even talked about health or any other things.
06:46 No, you know... This is good. This is good.
06:49 So... Go ahead, go ahead.
06:52 So with that space, we came back together.
06:56 Seven years later. Seven years later.
06:57 Seven... Now you want to sneak that in.
06:59 We didn't see each other for seven years.
07:00 Seven years? Yeah.
07:01 Did you date other people?
07:03 Yes. Yeah.
07:04 Really?
07:05 So how did you get back together after seven years?
07:07 Well, I saw her walking down the street.
07:08 Oh, my goodness.
07:10 This is getting better and better.
07:11 And she had a two...
07:12 Okay. At the ethnic festival.
07:14 At the downtown?
07:15 No, you saw me walking down the street, right.
07:16 Yeah, right, with her two nephews.
07:18 Yeah, my nephews. Really?
07:19 You were driving? Was I driving?
07:21 I think so, yeah, right. And you stopped.
07:23 Yeah. What?
07:24 And you remember and said, okay, so what did you?
07:28 You parked the car and get out?
07:29 Yeah. Oh, yeah.
07:31 He did. We got back, yeah.
07:33 And that was the beginning again.
07:36 Okay, but did you give him a huggie, give me more.
07:39 So you stopped the car, got out,
07:41 and what did you say to her?
07:43 Well, I think that well, I have to go back and think,
07:46 but, you know, just regular talking,
07:50 how are you doing, what you're doing,
07:53 you know, can we get back together.
07:55 Really? And you received that?
07:57 I did.
07:58 And you both were free and available?
08:00 Yes. Isn't that something?
08:02 I had to look out 'cause I was out living on my own
08:04 in my own house.
08:06 Everything, so the break up was very, you know, amicable.
08:10 It wasn't sour. No, nothing messy, just.
08:13 Oh, just we're just going to go our separate ways.
08:15 Yeah, go in our separate ways.
08:16 Okay, so after seven years, and then what?
08:19 And then I discovered, when we were talking,
08:24 I discovered more about her. Yes.
08:26 Her depth, you know, I said she was intelligent,
08:29 but I saw the depth because, you know,
08:31 I had introduced the diet to her.
08:33 Yes.
08:37 I didn't think she really received it that great.
08:39 Like even when I had almonds, you've called almonds peanuts,
08:43 now she said she didn't say that.
08:46 What about them peanuts, she was thinking?
08:48 I said, "No, those are almonds."
08:49 That's fine. Don't worry about.
08:51 I don't remember the story,
08:52 we'll go and tell the kids that and everything.
08:57 And I said, "She remembered that?"
08:59 And then, that shows me that, "Wow, she..."
09:02 And she talked about my diet.
09:04 And I didn't think she was really interested in it.
09:05 Wow! And she worked out.
09:10 I tell you, she worked with Elaine...
09:13 Powell? Yeah, Elaine Powell.
09:14 She was instructor there. Fitness instructor.
09:17 And I'm telling you, she was on the money,
09:21 still on the money, but I'm talking about,
09:23 you know, when you are younger, you're usually like.
09:26 And so we got together.
09:27 What we did, I would run four miles from my house.
09:31 I had my own... What was the year...
09:34 Did I had my home back then? Yes.
09:35 Yeah, and I run four miles to her house.
09:38 Wow!
09:39 And then we'll go and run and workout.
09:42 Oh, yeah.
09:44 And after we worked out, we will go to the gym,
09:49 and then we will do the...
09:51 The cardio.
09:52 Cardio, not well, we would do strengthening.
09:55 Lifting and deadweights, and what do you call,
09:59 free weights and machine weights.
10:02 And then from... You were her personal trainer?
10:07 Well, she was on the money, didn't she?
10:08 Okay, okay.
10:10 And then from there, we would go,
10:11 there was a Highland Park,
10:13 there was a track in Highland Park.
10:14 Then we'd go there and run a few sprints.
10:16 This is all in one day? Yeah.
10:18 Yeah. Oh, my goodness.
10:19 We worked. And that was our thing.
10:21 That was our day. That's how we date.
10:22 We didn't like go, of course, to, you know,
10:25 nightclubs and all of that.
10:26 We worked out.
10:28 And be good together which doing okay.
10:30 I run over, I'm riding my bike,
10:32 I ride to you and that's what we do
10:34 in the evenings when we got off
10:36 work is get together and work out.
10:38 It's so beautiful. It was fun.
10:40 Oh, is it fun, see.
10:41 Couples are going to have fun.
10:43 Yes. So when did you propose?
10:48 I know, I want you...
10:49 You're shooting a straight arrow, huh.
10:51 After the seven years,
10:53 you get together, you're working out,
10:55 you join each other,
10:56 did marriage crossed your mind, Marvin?
10:58 Did it cross your mind?
11:00 Definitely crossed my mind. Okay.
11:02 Okay. Yes.
11:03 I was ready. You were ready.
11:05 Because I was ready to have kids,
11:08 I was in my 30s now, you know, and I'm like,
11:11 you know, already working, got my career, and I'm like,
11:16 "What are we going to do, young man?"
11:19 I said, I basically told him
11:22 that he needed to make up his mind.
11:24 I was kind of bouncing around actually.
11:26 Yes. I'm being honest with you.
11:28 You were bouncing around, what do you mean?
11:29 But not with other women,
11:31 but just toying with the idea of marriage, marriage.
11:34 Let's make it clear. Okay.
11:36 You are one-woman man. That was it.
11:40 And I decided that I wanted to move on
11:43 that he seemed comfortable with the relationship as it was
11:47 but that I wanted more, and so I said, you know,
11:51 "I'm not going to, I just said him out,
11:53 I'm not going to hang around forever.
11:55 You need to make up your mind what you want to do."
11:57 Yes. Ultimatum.
11:59 Yeah, yeah.
12:03 One day, I just say,
12:05 "Hey, Sharon, would you marry me?"
12:13 And so we got together...
12:18 and I was concerned about her religion, her faith.
12:23 And because that's one thing
12:25 that I didn't negotiate on,
12:32 but yet I was open
12:36 because I know there would be discrepancy.
12:38 If I had married someone who had a different diet,
12:41 we will have children, you know,
12:43 that would be an issue there.
12:45 Yeah.
12:47 And we have different understanding of salvation,
12:51 in God, Christ, there would be an issue there.
12:54 But you did marry me before I joined the church.
12:58 And that's where I'm getting there.
13:03 Yeah, but I did marry her before she joined church.
13:06 Now why did I do that? Why did you do that?
13:08 Because I saw it...
13:12 she is extremely intelligent person,
13:15 and I knew that there was going to be
13:20 a time when she was going to get it
13:23 because just the direction...
13:26 She was analytical, she was compassionate,
13:29 she was philosophical,
13:32 she thought, she was a thinker,
13:37 you know, even if she come out
13:38 with something that necessarily was impromptu
13:42 and not thoroughly thought out and want to argue about it.
13:45 Yes. I can see that.
13:49 But she will come back... Come back.
13:51 Later, and that attracted me.
13:55 Because she would obviously go through herself
13:58 somewhere and reason it out.
14:00 Said, "Okay, yeah, Marvin,
14:01 yeah, I kind of see that," you know.
14:03 Well, let me tell you about the first time
14:04 he told me about the Sabbath.
14:06 Tell me about that?
14:07 We were actually on our way to the beach,
14:08 and I don't know how it came, we were talking religion,
14:11 and he says, "You know, the Sabbath is Saturday."
14:15 I said, "What?"
14:17 He said, "You know, when people go to church on Sunday,
14:20 that's not the right day."
14:22 I said, "Now how do only you know
14:24 that 'cause I have never heard of it."
14:26 Is it really? No!
14:27 Never, you never heard of Seventh-day Adventist?
14:29 No. Wow!
14:30 I was Baptist at that time, and I said,
14:33 "How could you only know this and the whole United States,
14:36 world does not know this."
14:38 See what I had to deal with.
14:39 And he was like but it is.
14:42 He says, "You just need to study."
14:44 And what I liked about that is he really did not
14:48 just keep coming at me with that message.
14:52 He said that, and he left it there
14:54 for me to deal with myself
14:58 and we weren't married when he told me that.
15:00 But, you know, I just remembered
15:04 that even in my witnessing,
15:06 I try to have that same approach
15:08 that Marvin had with me because he did not ram that...
15:11 The fruit of the spirits.
15:13 The doctrine, yeah, down my throat which was up,
15:15 he just was very calm,
15:17 and say and I just could not believe this was true.
15:20 How can everybody not even talk about this thing
15:23 that you're talking about.
15:25 That does not sound right.
15:28 So from there, you're now married.
15:31 And how soon after,
15:33 did you accept the Seventh-day Adventist message?
15:35 Well, I was actually...
15:38 After we got married,
15:39 I was still going to church on Sunday,
15:42 and I would ask him to go with me, he said, "No."
15:45 He would not go. He would not go.
15:47 Oh, my gosh, you know, what gotten into him.
15:50 You know, what's going to happen with this marriage.
15:51 I worried for a minute
15:52 because I was singing in the choir at this church
15:55 and very involved, and I said, "Marvin, are you going?"
15:58 He said, "No." I was like, "Oh, my goodness."
16:01 So, you know, it was the Easter weekend,
16:04 and I was studying my Sunday school lesson,
16:07 and it said in writing,
16:09 I'm in the middle of the night
16:10 like studying my lesson it says,
16:12 "Jesus rested in the tomb on the Sabbath."
16:15 And I sat up. In your lesson?
16:17 Yes.
16:20 Won't God do it? Yes.
16:21 I'm telling you.
16:23 And I'm like, "This is what he's talking about."
16:26 So I run downstairs to the library,
16:28 and I'm pulling all the encyclopedias out,
16:30 looking up the Sabbath,
16:32 like what is going on
16:34 that this is in a Sunday school book,
16:37 and they're not respecting this commandment,
16:41 so I remember a very spiritual experience
16:45 that evening that
16:47 it seemed like it was just starry in the room,
16:49 and I sat up there and said, "Lord, I understand,
16:53 I see what you're talking about, you know,"
16:57 and he came in later, and I said, "I got it."
17:01 Yeah, she was in...
17:03 She said, "I got it."
17:05 And you're like, "What you got it?"
17:07 Right. Right.
17:09 I got it. I got it.
17:10 Just like that. Yeah.
17:12 And so we went to the church,
17:13 I think the next week or the next day,
17:15 I said, "What kind of church,
17:16 where is your church, where do we go?"
17:19 So you see what I mean in terms of her...
17:21 I mean, I can't...
17:23 You had that faith, you believed in that witness.
17:27 You know, it reminds me of Arthur and I...
17:28 When I...
17:30 And he came into the church, when I first met him,
17:32 but I waited, you know,
17:33 the three years before we married,
17:36 but he, I introduced it to him, I gave him the Bible,
17:39 I gave him certain books, and he came back to me,
17:44 and he says, "I'm done with shrimp,
17:47 I'm done with lobster,
17:48 I'm done with it 'cause it was right there
17:50 in the Book of Leviticus."
17:52 And I was praying, and he said, the Sabbath,
17:56 and I remember writing down he died on Friday,
18:00 he rose on Sunday, I said,
18:01 "But what did he do on Saturday?"
18:04 And he said, "He rested."
18:06 And I said, "Arthur, He could have sent 10,000 angels,
18:08 but He had to set the example."
18:10 Arthur said right there, "He says I'm all in."
18:14 Amen. Isn't that something?
18:15 Isn't that something? Yes.
18:17 And was there, and, you know, and you were witness to him,
18:21 and you mentored him.
18:23 Praise the Lord.
18:24 And so together, so let's look at now, married,
18:29 Seventh-day Adventist,
18:32 but I noticed that you didn't take
18:34 your jewelry off for a little while.
18:36 Did you struggle with that a little bit?
18:37 I did.
18:39 Actually, I decided I would wear my jewelry
18:41 to church the day I got baptized,
18:43 I said, "This can't be."
18:44 I remember that too.
18:46 Everybody was like, "Did she put a jewelry back on?"
18:49 Folk was whispering.
18:50 They need to let these folks know,
18:52 you don't put your jewelry back on.
18:53 And you came back out and sat there with your jewelry on.
18:57 I sure did. I remember that Sabbath.
18:59 I know, what was I thinking? I don't know.
19:03 So I walk in, I just decided I'm gonna wear my jewelry
19:06 to baptism, you know,
19:07 that just shows you how the devil can confuse you.
19:11 And so, I guessed it probably was a meeting of the elders.
19:14 And they came out and they said,
19:15 "Can we see you for a moment."
19:16 Yes, dingle it all the way back.
19:20 And they said,
19:21 "You're going to need to take your jewelry off?"
19:23 I said, "Why?"
19:24 And so, Pastor Harris is who... That Mark, yes.
19:27 He said, "Now you can do one of two things.
19:30 You can wear that jewelry
19:32 or you can give it all up for Jesus."
19:35 That's all he said, I went.
19:37 I took it off and never put it back on.
19:39 And you haven't? No.
19:40 Praise the Lord. I've been...
19:42 I'll watch you.
19:43 Praise the Lord. Yes.
19:45 So then after that, rooted in the church,
19:48 very, very busy church, children came along, children,
19:52 you have two beautiful daughters.
19:54 Eve has just completed her Batchelor's degree
19:58 from Andrews University in mortuary science.
20:00 How did you feel when she says,
20:02 "This is what I want to do now?"
20:04 You know, 'cause she went to Oakwood, and it didn't work,
20:09 brought her back home, and God led her to this,
20:12 so how did you feel about that?
20:14 We were little concerned at first because, you know,
20:17 it's just a really, heavy emotional field.
20:20 And I just want to make sure she was, you know,
20:22 could handle that all the time, you know,
20:26 handle death all the time, so we just watched her,
20:29 making sure she's sleeping, making sure she's eating,
20:32 I even ask her, "How are you sleeping?"
20:35 But, you know, she wanted to be a physician,
20:37 and then she wanted to be special in...
20:39 She wanted to do plastic surgery,
20:42 then she wanted to do special education like me.
20:44 And so I think...
20:46 And then she's just artistic like her dad,
20:48 so I think all of those that caring,
20:50 compassionate part and that art
20:52 is what she brings into how she,
20:55 you know, to the mortuary side.
20:56 And, you know, I didn't think about that all day,
20:58 you're not just there greeting the families,
21:01 you know, overseeing, you know,
21:03 the person to family members loved one,
21:05 but you are constantly going to the services,
21:08 you are going to cemetery, that is a lot.
21:12 So we know that God is leading
21:14 because you have raised her well.
21:16 And so, we praise God because, you know,
21:19 and I don't mean to say this joke,
21:20 but somebody got to do it.
21:22 And if it's not Michael,
21:23 and I pray the Lord for Eve here.
21:25 Amen. Amen.
21:26 And now Eden, you know,
21:28 we interviewed Eden, and we thank the Lord,
21:30 and she's going into her second year?
21:32 Yes. On the dean's list. Bauman College.
21:34 You know, on the dean's list,
21:36 you know, in Atlanta, do you miss her?
21:37 Oh, yes.
21:41 Go ahead.
21:44 You know, she skipped a grade.
21:45 Yes, I remember that.
21:49 She didn't want anybody to know that she was only what...
21:53 How old is she? She's 16.
21:54 It happened probably when she's like...
21:55 Yeah, yeah, 16.
21:57 She didn't want people to know she was 15
21:58 and thinking everybody else was older.
22:01 Older, right. But when she got to...
22:03 When she left the high school, went to Spellman,
22:06 she didn't miss a beat.
22:08 Just blossomed. Oh, boy.
22:09 She's already blossomed now, you know.
22:12 You know, each child is different.
22:14 Eden...
22:15 Eve is a very deep thinker, Eden is also,
22:21 but Eden is more like focus
22:27 and on to it all the time.
22:29 All the time. Yeah, and at the beginning.
22:34 That's really the difference there,
22:36 but Eve, she's all medical material.
22:42 You know, all doctor whatever feel.
22:45 But she said, well, should I say that?
22:47 I don't know what you're going to say.
22:49 She said she rather deal with people than...
22:54 Deceased versus person being alive.
22:56 Yeah, right, right,
22:57 rather than deal with those personalities.
22:58 Yeah.
23:00 Ever since she was young, she...
23:04 She went to the university college
23:07 when she took the college courses and she was 14.
23:10 Yeah, she was with nursing students,
23:12 students and everything.
23:14 So she's always enjoyed the medical field like that?
23:16 Yes. The sciences.
23:17 Yeah, she's a scientist.
23:20 How do you handle the challenges?
23:22 I mean, this beautiful marriage relationship,
23:25 you know, but how do you handle your challenges
23:29 or your differences?
23:30 Between the two of us.
23:32 Yes, between the two of you
23:33 'cause there are no perfect people now.
23:35 That's true. No perfect marriages.
23:36 Correct.
23:37 And I know how strong willed she is.
23:39 Girl, we're two of a kind. Yes.
23:42 I told after that too.
23:46 I'll have to say he is patient. Yes.
23:49 And that he is so patient.
23:52 It's nothing but the Holy Spirit
23:54 that gives him that patience.
23:56 And that's an example for me
23:58 because I'm not the most patient person.
24:02 And so I always have to go back
24:04 and get on my knees and pray and review the day,
24:08 and say, "You know, what did I do,
24:09 what did I say, what could I have done bad."
24:11 Because I see so much love coming out of,
24:15 it just bleeds like love and patience and kindness
24:19 like I was saying the other day,
24:21 my water was upstairs next to the bed,
24:23 and I was like, "I don't like my water uncovered."
24:29 I looked and sometimes it'll make me weak
24:32 when I see him do little things,
24:33 and I was like, "Now, you know, go and get me,
24:36 just put a little top on my water next to the bed."
24:40 And that's just how he is,
24:42 you know, we fast forward to the children which,
24:44 you know, I had, I lost two sons
24:47 when we first got married,
24:49 and one of the things that touched my heart
24:51 so is that all the weeping,
24:53 he never got tired of me crying.
24:56 You know, how some people will say,
24:57 "Now you've cried about that."
24:59 But every time I would cry, he would hold me,
25:01 and every time I want to talk about it,
25:03 he would, you know, listen
25:05 and that's what we do when we have a problem.
25:07 It's not always an easy conversation,
25:09 but we'll say, "Now you know why I didn't like it
25:11 when you did that or I didn't like,
25:12 you know, well, you know," and then we won't even bring,
25:14 well, God may not want to know,
25:16 sometime we make a mistake and bring him in,
25:18 but we try to make sure that we talk it out.
25:22 That's how you do it. Yes.
25:23 We pray together.
25:25 We study the Word. We study the Word.
25:27 And see you in Sabbath school, you know, a blessing.
25:30 How do... Are you still athletic?
25:33 Are you still running and doing all those things?
25:34 Oh, yeah. Oh, yeah.
25:35 You know, praise God,
25:38 you know, you enjoy traveling?
25:40 Yes. You do that.
25:42 Now I remember when you introduce the health message,
25:44 we have about two minutes,
25:45 and we weren't ready to receive it,
25:47 but I truly receive it now.
25:50 And it changed my life in every aspect.
25:53 I want to ask, this is a very sensitive question,
25:57 I remember you coming to the house,
25:58 and you were sitting with me there on the floor,
26:01 laughing and making sure I ate after Arthur passed.
26:04 And your mother,
26:06 I know we were there at your mother's services,
26:09 how did your husband help you through that?
26:13 I know it's hard 'cause you loved your mother.
26:16 I did.
26:17 He loved my mother, and my mother loved him,
26:21 and, you know, he took care of my mother just like,
26:25 one of the things with my mother,
26:26 she ended up, her heart stopped,
26:28 and so she didn't know she has some brain injury,
26:32 and she didn't even know me,
26:34 but when he walked in the room,
26:36 she said, "There is my son-in-law."
26:37 I said what's his name, "Marvin."
26:39 I said who is that, "My son-in-law."
26:41 So out of all the people, she remembered her son-in-law.
26:46 And just that tenderness again around caring for my mother,
26:51 caring for me, taking her to dialysis,
26:54 and even with my dad now.
26:56 I mean, he took care of my dad
26:57 like he was his father.
27:00 And you're still right there together.
27:02 I cannot believe how fast this went.
27:04 I mean, this is amazing, we have about 56 minutes...
27:07 Seconds, 56 seconds, closing thoughts,
27:10 how to have genuine friendship in a marriage?
27:14 Talk.
27:16 Make sure you have fun together.
27:18 This is my best friend.
27:19 I don't really talk to like,
27:21 you know, people have girlfriends and all.
27:23 If I got a problem, this is who I'm going to talk to.
27:26 So he is my best friend.
27:28 Okay, Marvin.
27:30 Well, my wife...
27:32 Just be willing to listen,
27:36 and not to just take your stand,
27:39 and to be open, and...
27:43 That's it.
27:44 And even if you feel that you're right,
27:49 allow space there for your mate.
27:53 Your mate.
27:54 And let the voice be heard and respect it.
27:57 Well, I hope all of you that are watching today
28:00 that you truly can look at your relationship
28:02 and find genuine friendship.
28:04 I'm Dr. Kim, I want to thank you both for being with us
28:07 on Live to be Well.
28:09 Remember, there's genuine friendship in a marriage.
28:12 God bless.


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