Laymen Ministries

India – Snakes

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00:29 [Music]
00:40 On this mission trip, we flew into Chennai, South India.
00:47 [Music]
00:52 In South India, it's not uncommon to see an elephant walking down the road.
00:55 I've always wanted to have my own pet elephant.
00:58 [Music]
01:01 India is home to all types of exotic animals.
01:04 For instance, the Assam is the home to the
01:06 largest population of the greater one-horned rhinoceros.
01:10 But the one creature that for me are the most frightening are snakes.
01:15 India has currently 300 species of snakes and three of those are cobras.
01:20 For ages in India, there have been snake charmers with their flutes and baskets,
01:25 seemingly hypnotizing cobras with their music.
01:27 And we'll talk more about snakes in just a little bit.
01:32 [Music]
01:35 Ministries built a television production studio.
01:38 We chose this site as it was a nice quiet place out in the country.
01:41 Let's meet with Praveen, our studio director, and find out what's happening here.
01:46 This is Praveen and he's our studio director.
01:48 We're going to go inside the studio and talk a little
01:51 bit about some of the things that are happening here.
01:54 So tell me about what you have going on in here.
01:58 Elder, we here produce a lot of programs for YouTube.
02:03 Our normal production is for television.
02:06 Every Saturday morning, 7.30 am, we do all our programs.
02:11 We edit and then we send it to satellite TV.
02:13 They will broadcast it.
02:15 And then apart from that, we make a lot of videos for YouTube,
02:19 like kids' programs, music videos, and then talk shows.
02:24 I saw that you guys were doing like a new cooking program of some sort.
02:29 And one of the cameramen was up on a ladder shooting the food being prepared.
02:32 What kind of food are they making in the cooking program?
02:35 Healthy cooking, like salads, and then with fruits and what we can do,
02:40 I mean, healthy recipes.
02:43 But is it still Indian type food?
02:45 Indian type of food.
02:46 So is this the edit area here?
02:48 This is the editing room, kind of control room.
02:51 In case of any productions, like we'll be having live switching here, live editing.
02:56 And then we do editing process also here.
02:58 And then we have editing B room also.
03:01 There, another editor will be sitting and he'll be doing his work there.
03:04 So do you get much response from the programs,
03:08 like the ones that are aired on television or even YouTube?
03:11 Do you get a lot of views on YouTube?
03:13 In every videos, we will be putting our number, the description box.
03:18 So whoever watches, they will call us and they will text us directly.
03:22 We need to learn something more about this.
03:25 And we, what we'll do is we will get their
03:27 address and then we will send books to them,
03:30 like Steps to Christ, like some easily they can read it and they can...
03:35 And they call the prayer hotline too.
03:37 So people know, we have like retired elderly Bible workers
03:41 that can't work in the field anymore that just
03:43 take care of the phone calls that come in, right?
03:45 So how many programs per week generally are you making?
03:48 We are releasing seven videos per week.
03:51 Seven videos per week? That's pretty good.
03:54 Like one day kids program will get released and then another day Bible women,
04:00 that is specifically we are making for women.
04:03 And then another video, musical video, that is every Friday,
04:07 that musical video will get released, like that we have category.
04:10 One day sermon, talk show, like that, every
04:13 day we will release one one single videos.
04:15 And I see that you do some audio mixing here too, it looks like.
04:18 Yes. This place is for Jagann and he make a
04:22 lot of music videos and he's a music producer
04:25 and he composes music.
04:27 Every week we call some talents and they will
04:29 come and we'll take voices, music, everything,
04:33 we'll mix here and we'll go to outdoors for shooting.
04:36 Or make the music video or something. Do you
04:38 ever just create music for ambient background?
04:41 Like for video or anything like that?
04:42 We have a bluetooth speaker we have. We'll play it in the outdoor.
04:48 So that will pick up the ambient sound. I mean they'll do the lipping voice
04:52 and then in the post-production we'll disable
04:55 that and we'll enable the mixed final audio there.
04:58 Well let's go show our viewers the studio area that's in the other room.
05:02 I don't know if you know this or not but Johnson saw the studio we have in America
05:06 and he kind of copied the same kind of design we have for building this one.
05:10 It's kind of interesting.
05:14 Oh it's nice and air AC in here.
05:17 So you like did like we did in our studio. Every corner is a different set.
05:20 Yes.
05:23 Yeah.
05:24 So what do you do at this particular set here?
05:27 This set is for talk show.
05:29 Like a roundtable discussion Bible subjects and things.
05:32 Yes. Biblical information. The show title is.
05:35 And I'll be hosting and another guest will be coming.
05:39 And what we used to do is we'll be discussing
05:42 from Bible all about the information about the Bible.
05:45 Like how many Hannah are there in Bible.
05:48 Like what are the characters are there.
05:50 Like kind of shows we will be doing in this particular area.
05:54 What are you doing with this one? This is like for the cooking program?
05:56 Yeah. This is for cooking program. And we make a lot of healthy cooking shows here.
06:01 Oh she's got some of her dishes out here and things.
06:05 Yeah. Cooking programs are really really popular in America.
06:08 I noticed a lot of cooking videos on YouTube.
06:10 So having like Indian variety of it is a unique thing.
06:15 The plan for this cooking show is when we release the cooking show on YouTube
06:19 all general audience they will watch our programs.
06:22 That time YouTube will recommend some of our biblical videos to them.
06:27 So they will get a chance to watch our sermons or talk shows or music videos.
06:33 So that what we thought was this cooking show
06:36 will be the gateway for them to watch our TV channel.
06:39 What are you doing with this set over here.
06:41 The one with the little houses in the background.
06:44 This set is for sermon for religion TV and all.
06:47 We used to record, use this backdrop for sermon recording.
06:52 Very good. Yeah. You guys are doing a really good job here. It's amazing.
06:57 And then we are also recording Telugu program
07:00 also. We have entered into new language for YouTube.
07:03 Already we have a lot of sermons in Telugu. Pastor Shadrach is doing.
07:07 But for social media we call some Telugu people.
07:11 So it's not doing Telugu translation. It's actually Telugu speaking people.
07:16 I was really surprised that people watch Pastor Shadrach's television programs
07:21 because he's speaking in English and it's being translated into Telugu.
07:24 And he's a Tamil speaking person but
07:26 speaking in English being translated into Telugu.
07:28 And we still get a lot of responses from those programs.
07:30 I mean like in America if we had a program
07:32 like that I think a lot of people go click.
07:34 Because the process is so long translating everything.
07:37 But people here watch that. I'm really amazed.
07:41 Good. You guys are doing a good job too.
07:44 We have a lot of Laymen Ministries in India. We just wanted to thank donors.
07:48 Thank you so much for all the ...
07:53 Good. Well I'm happy that the Lord's blessed and that we were able to help do that.
07:57 Laymen Ministries has been in the forefront
07:59 of Adventist television production in India.
08:02 Starting in 2002. That's 22 years ago.
08:05 We're taking God's message of hope right into the privacy of people's homes.
08:09 We are currently on three major global
08:11 satellite networks and six local cable networks.
08:15 We broadcast in four languages. Hindi, Tamil, Telugu and in English.
08:26 Another interactive outreach we have is with YouTube.
08:29 We currently have five YouTube channels.
08:31 Laymen Ministries Tamil, Laymen Ministries Gospel, Laymen Ministries Music,
08:35 365 Prayer Live and then Laymen Ministries Telugu.
08:40 We have thousands of views on these channels.
08:43 Our studio team also holds live Bible study lessons on Zoom and YouTube Live.
08:49 This has been a great way to reach a younger audience.
08:52 But our studio is more than a production facility out in the country.
08:55 It's a beacon of light in the local community, even reaching snake handlers.
09:06 I remember when we were looking at this property
09:08 that we were going to buy this to build a studio here.
09:12 And this is Kumar and he's one of the neighbors that lives in the area here.
09:16 Yes. He's actually from this village and he was here.
09:21 And in those days he was a snake hunter.
09:25 I remember he was taking a real big interest
09:27 in what we were going to be doing here and such.
09:31 And you said he was a snake handler.
09:33 What is a snake handler?
09:35 Actually he looks like this but he can suppose if the snake...
09:42 Like a cobra or something like that?
09:44 Yes, very dangerous. He can hold it in the hand and remove the teeth.
09:50 I remember when we were buying the property
09:52 he took a big interest in what we were doing.
09:54 And then when we finally built the studio he was kind of like our security guard.
09:58 Yes, he was not a practicing Christian when he first started.
10:01 Because he was a heathen, then he became a Protestant but he was not happy.
10:08 Then one of our church elders from the city of
10:12 Chennai, every week they come for a branch Sabbath school class.
10:17 In that Mrs Kumar and Mr Kumar gave their place for a Sabbath school and all that.
10:26 In their home?
10:28 Then after that he was able to understand this is a message.
10:34 So he took a baptism and then he came to church.
10:37 I remember I was here one time when we visited the church
10:40 on Sabbath and he was helping lead out in the church here.
10:43 You were right.
10:44 And Mrs Kumar is very active.
10:48 Though she came recently she can be able to
10:51 teach a Sabbath school lesson and machine report.
10:55 She can do everything.
10:56 So what happened with Kumar then?
11:00 He ended up becoming a Seventh-day Adventist then after that?
11:03 Yes, after that, that elder, died because of the Covid.
11:08 There was that other fellow, what was his name? The elder?
11:11 Shehren.
11:12 And he was kind of helping with the property.
11:14 He was a kind of a main instrument that we came to this village.
11:19 I remember when you and I talked about purchasing this property for the studio,
11:22 we were talking not only about having a nice place to build a studio to record,
11:27 but you said this is going to be kind of, you said this was like an unentered area.
11:32 And that you wanted to do something to be
11:34 able to have one of our Bible workers here
11:36 and some of the other Bible workers come here and start working this area.
11:39 And then he started taking an interest more and more.
11:42 So what developed out of all of this over the years?
11:45 That is a blessing elder.
11:48 Because we came to this village actually to build a studio.
11:54 Then I was approaching you, then you told me I asked if we need a church.
11:59 Church, how?
12:00 Then you said, "Johnson, go ahead."
12:02 Then we built a church.
12:04 As a result, Mr. Kumar and Mrs. Kumar, their family,
12:09 now his son Ajay and one more son, his parents, every...
12:14 They all became Adventists?
12:15 All sister, the whole family alone, more than 20 members are there.
12:22 They became Adventists.
12:24 And they became Adventists.
12:26 So not only that, from after this village, because
12:31 in neighboring there were more than 2,700 villages.
12:37 That's as hard to even imagine.
12:39 Imagine all unentered territory.
12:41 And it is very easy.
12:43 That's why Layman Ministry not only
12:46 producing the program, kind of making friendship,
12:52 entering into the village and making disciple.
12:56 That is an example here Ajay, in one of our...
13:00 Is he a pastor now?
13:01 Yes.
13:02 So he became a pastor.
13:03 He became a pastor.
13:08 Adventist, who became a leader in this area.
13:09 I was just curious on Sabbath, the church which we use for a Training Center.
13:14 Is there very many people coming now?
13:15 Yes.
13:18 it, there was just maybe eight or nine people coming.
13:21 So what is it now?
13:22 No, it is not enough place.
13:25 Now, the children, if you count children
13:28 alone, there were more than 40 people were coming.
13:31 Then elders, almost 30.
13:34 So now the church is full and they have to build
13:38 separate for children, then only they have a place like that.
13:43 So the studio is more than just a place where
13:45 we're doing recordings for television programs.
13:48 The studio is actually like a light in the
13:50 community here, reaching out to this whole area.
13:54 And how many Bible workers do we have working here in this area?
13:57 In this area, right now there are...
13:59 Is that her?
14:01 Right now there were six and in this town, they will go to nearby villages.
14:09 And evening, when they come from the work, after
14:12 they finish all the work, she and Kumar's mother,
14:19 she's a Kumar's mother also, Bible worker.
14:23 She's helping in the village and she's taking care of one church every Sabbath.
14:28 She's not attending this church.
14:29 She's going to nearby, that junction.
14:33 Tamaray Pakam, she has planted one church.
14:37 So around this area, when we enter, this is a new place.
14:41 But around this area, more than 12 congregations right now.
14:47 In the future, we're looking at trying to do something
14:50 about that, trying to get places to worship for them.
14:52 Laymen Ministries currently sponsors 52
14:55 dedicated Bible workers and several pastors.
14:57 Here's a current picture of 33 of our team after a workers meeting.
15:02 Because of the popularity of our television
15:04 programs, this often opens the doors of the homes they visit.
15:08 This is not an easy work, as they often get doors shut
15:11 in their face and sometimes they even get threatened.
15:13 But many times, as the Bible workers identify with
15:16 being with our television programs, they're invited in.
15:20 They then pray with the homeowners, build
15:22 relationships, and then start holding Bible studies.
15:25 This leads to having group studies as they invite their neighbors to attend.
15:30 As the group grows, the next step is buying property and then building a church.
15:38 The Bible workers visit the home of the poor and the wealthy.
15:42 They attend to the needs of the people they visit, as friends.
15:46 They're always handing out free literature as well.
15:49 While at the studio, Pastor Johnson talked with me about our literature work.
15:54 I know that we've been printing a lot of literature.
15:56 Is a lot of this literature still being shipped out, like, every week from the TV
16:01 programs and stuff and people calling in?
16:03 The same method, only during the COVID time, little we were stopped.
16:08 But otherwise, the same thing what we had.
16:11 Actually, people ordering books slowed down during COVID?
16:14 Yeah, because we hear the postal and everything.
16:17 Oh, see, in America, our bookstore just was booming when COVID hit and people were
16:22 at home bored and they wanted something to do.
16:25 But we're shipping everything from up here.
16:28 And do you have a pretty... What kind of books are we working on right now?
16:31 Right now, Ministry of Healing, then Christ Object Lesson.
16:35 And we print A Desire of Ages, right?
16:37 A Desire of Ages, we printed it in a
16:39 three-volume and a Great Controversy in a two-volume.
16:43 And that's going tremendously. People were ordering, people were asking.
16:49 Wow. So what are all these books here?
16:52 These are all books we recently printed, The Desire of Ages.
16:57 We made it in a three-volume and also Great Controversy made it in two-volume.
17:03 Are you getting quite a few people calling in
17:05 for the television programs, ordering, literature?
17:07 Yes, literature, not only from India, even from
17:12 the neighboring countries, Sri Lanka, and also Nepal.
17:17 People in Nepal responding to the TV programs?
17:20 Yes. They speak Nepali.
17:22 Because we have now a lot of other books also, like examples, the Great Controversy
17:27 in English, we are doing it, and also Desire of Ages we have.
17:32 And there are people who can speak our language, they are there.
17:38 And also from...
17:40 When you say language, you're talking about Tamil?
17:41 Tamil. And also Singapore, then France.
17:45 I know from flying on airplanes and having connecting flights.
17:49 I don't know how many times I've sat next to Tamil speaking, Tamil people that are
17:52 working abroad, either in Saudi Arabia or in Singapore, something like that.
17:57 Who is taking care of shipping all these?
18:02 Shipping Sudhajir. He is in charge for our bookstore.
18:09 And he will pack everything and send it to Kottambakkam.
18:16 Then there, Ravi will pack everything and hand over to the courier or the poster.
18:22 Are people actually ordering now that we have the Desire of Ages and
18:25 Great Controversy books available? People ordering these books?
18:28 Yes. They are very much interested, particularly the Storical Lessons, which we have.
18:35 Amazing Facts Storicals.
18:37 And that one is very nice.
18:39 And so all the books, I think whenever now, particularly November and December.
18:45 I was kind of curious because so many people were kind of
18:48 bent over looking at their phones or on tablets and such.
18:51 I was wondering if they were ordering books as much as they used to.
18:54 But you think it slowed down a little bit or people still ordering quite a bit?
18:58 Still our print media is powerful in India.
19:02 So that's why we also... I was talking to you and in our magazine also we have
19:07 published that our upcoming project in publishing is Christ Object Lesson.
19:13 Acts of Apostle and Ministry of Healing.
19:16 Yeah, those would be wonderful books.
19:18 All of these activities work together to introduce people to Christ.
19:23 The Bible workers going door to door, praying
19:25 with the people personally, touching their lives.
19:28 Our diversified television programs and media presence, taking Christ-centered
19:32 messages into the privacy of millions of people's homes.
19:36 Sending Bibles and Bible-based books and booklets around the world.
19:42 All of these lead to hundreds of baptisms every
19:45 year with the establishment of many new churches.
20:01 We're now going to take the train from Chennai all
20:03 the way down to Nazareth where our orphanage is located.
20:12 Taking the trains is not something new to us and
20:15 overnight trips make one pretty tired the next day.
20:25 We've been doing the trains in India for, man, 20, almost 30 years.
20:30 And a lot of the trains really haven't changed that much over the 30 years.
20:34 I think they just kind of repair them and put them back on the tracks.
20:37 But tonight we're heading out to the orphanage here from Hosur, which is a central
20:42 southern part of India, now onto the eastern tip of India.
20:47 [Music]
21:05 The sleeper cars have beds on two levels. I always prefer the upper level.
21:18 As we arrived, we made our way out of the
21:20 train station and headed to the orphanage.
21:26 While we were still at the train station, the daily
21:28 activities were just getting started at our orphanage.
21:32 The boys were getting dressed and trying hard not to be late for breakfast.
21:36 The rooms in the orphanage have been recently
21:38 remodeled and everything is kept clean and organized.
21:43 They all head down to the cafeteria for breakfast. It looks like this morning
21:48 they're having Idlis with vegetable gravy.
21:51 Idlis are made from mung bean flour steamed into patties.
21:58 They gather all their school books and backpacks and head to the bus.
22:03 I just want to mention that it's donors like you that have helped buy the new bus
22:06 and to provide for school clothes and backpacks for these children.
22:11 They say a prayer before they leave to school. Since we shot this video, we have
22:15 finished some of the building projects you see in the background of our campus.
22:19 This trip is a familiar one for them. Every weekday is
22:22 the same routine. They get on the bus, they go to school.
22:25 They get on the bus, they come back home. They would never
22:28 have this opportunity if it were not for the Children's Home.
22:33 After a day at school, the bus heads back to "The Home".
22:38 Young orphan children like this have an opportunity for
22:41 a better life rather than that of living under a bridge.
22:46 [music]
22:52 In 2016, Lehman Ministries acquired this building and this property.
22:57 Back several years before 2016, there was a
23:00 group of people who wanted to do an outreach ministry
23:03 in this particular area of southern eastern Tamil Nadu state.
23:07 And so they basically built this building
23:10 and called it the James White Community Center.
23:12 They bought some sewing machines and they bought some computers.
23:15 The whole idea was they would teach the ladies
23:18 from the villages in this area how to do tailoring,
23:20 maybe have some of the young people come here and
23:22 learn how to use computers and get involved with
23:24 like IT work. But for some reason, the
23:28 project just never really got off the ground.
23:29 So the facility just sat here not being used.
23:32 So in 2016, a committee who had control of this
23:35 property decided, "Why not give it to Laymen Ministries?"
23:37 Laymen Ministries is an organization
23:40 that gets things done. And so we acquired the
23:43 property and immediately Pastor Johnson and I
23:45 were thinking - an orphanage. And because of the
23:48 laws in India and such, we couldn't mix boys and girls
23:50 together. So we started first with what was
23:53 called a boy's home. And this building was remodeled.
23:57 We had the government come in and inspect
23:58 things and we set up an orphanage basically for boys.
24:03 And from that, everything just kind of started to expand.
24:06 Hey Moses. This is Moses Daniel and he's the
24:11 director for orphanages. And I haven't been here
24:13 for three and a half years now because of COVID
24:15 and everything. But I see there's been a lot of
24:17 changes since I was here, like a new wall and
24:19 new building. Yes sir. I'll tell you about this new
24:22 building. This is the building which has been
24:24 built, completed in March. And we wanted this year.
24:29 Yeah, March of this year. We wanted to start a
24:32 home for girls. We had been running for boys only.
24:37 So we wanted to start a home for girls.
24:39 So in order to start a home, we need some space
24:43 to accommodate a kitchen, to accommodate
24:46 an office, to accommodate this healing room,
24:49 sick room and sick room for girls and to have
24:52 the director's house. Because in the old building,
24:55 we had two spaces for dormitories. So we
25:00 used that old building for girls' dormitories.
25:04 And we have pulled out the kitchen and the
25:09 director's house and we have accommodated here.
25:12 Doesn't the government have really strict rules
25:14 about not mingling the boys and girls together?
25:16 So we had to keep everything completely separate,
25:19 right? Yeah, we have to. That's why we have built
25:22 this long compound wall and we have separated
25:26 the girls' dormitory and their area separate
25:29 by building a separate compound. Yeah. And then
25:32 your accommodations? Yeah, this is my accommodation.
25:35 Then this is the office and that is the sick room
25:38 for boys. And where's, do you have a sick room for
25:40 girls? Okay, it is inside that compound. Oh,
25:44 that's why the entrances from that side, because that's
25:46 a girl's side over there. And I remember you
25:48 telling me with a problem here that sometimes
25:53 before we built these toilets that were
25:55 more secure, that you had problems with snakes
25:57 sometimes coming in the old toilets. But now
25:59 that's kind of been taken care of because we have a,
26:02 can you imagine like during rainy season or
26:04 something, they'd have cobras coming into the
26:07 toilets, but now we have them built up in a more
26:10 secure area so the kids don't have to worry about
26:12 that. When we were there shooting this video,
26:16 our new cafeteria and multipurpose room were under
26:18 construction, but they're now finished. The
26:21 facility has kept clean providing a healthy environment for
26:24 the children, as well as teaching them to take
26:27 pride in what they have. This building is a new
26:29 multipurpose room and study hall. This gives the
26:32 children a place to study and to have recreational
26:35 time when the monsoon rains come. The main thing
26:38 is we now have room for orphan girls. Some of the
26:41 stories about where these orphan girls come
26:44 from are heart-wrenching. The room on the far
26:47 side of this building is for community services
26:48 for the people in the nearby villages. We provide
26:52 classes about health, tailoring, and computer
26:54 technologies. Here are our current orphan children
26:57 who now have hope for the future. I'd like to
27:01 tell you about this boy. His name is MARISWARAN.
27:05 He's a bright and helpful young man. He always
27:07 dreamed about riding a bike but never thought he
27:10 could do it. You see, his father died when he
27:12 was an infant. Without a father and being extremely
27:15 poor and a mother who could not take care of him,
27:19 his hopes for riding a bike seemed out of his grasp.
27:23 Moses, our orphanage director, brought his bicycle
27:25 to the children's home so that MARISWARAN could
27:27 learn to ride it. To MARISWARAN's astonishment,
27:30 he learned how to ride the bike in just one day.
27:33 He thanks God for this wonderful opportunity.
27:35 He also wants to share with you, dear viewer,
27:38 that he has learned a lot about Jesus and
27:40 his love while staying at our home. He told us,
27:43 "I surrendered my life to him. I would
27:45 like to follow him and inherit eternal life."
27:50 Something as simple as riding a bike brings joy to these orphans.
27:54 It's our goal to have this children's home be a
27:57 real home, a safe place to be loved, encouraged,
28:00 educated, and taught good values. Throughout India, we're
28:17 [Music]


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