Books of the Book: John

The First Discourse

Three Angels Broadcasting Network

Program transcript

Participants: Deyvy Rodriguez & Jon Paulien


Series Code: JBOTB

Program Code: JBOTB00019A

00:20 Hello and welcome again
00:21 to this program "Books of the Book."
00:23 My name is Deyvy Rodriquez
00:24 and I am so happy that you can take this time
00:27 and open the Bible and study the Word of God with us.
00:31 We are studying the Gospel of John
00:33 and today we are in Chapter 13 and starting in verse 31.
00:38 And by this time Jesus has already
00:40 washed the disciple's feet and also Judas has left them.
00:45 And with us is Dr. Jon Paulien, he is a Bible scholar.
00:50 And he is a brilliant scholar,
00:52 especially in this book, the Gospel of John.
00:55 In fact he has written three books
00:57 on the Gospel of John that is.
01:00 And Dr. Jon Paulien, welcome again.
01:02 And I say that you are a brilliant scholar
01:04 because I've been blessed
01:05 with the studies you see or you point out
01:08 all these spiritual lessons from the Gospel of John
01:12 that otherwise I had not seen.
01:14 And I want to thank you again for being with us.
01:17 You are the dean of Religion at Loma Linda University.
01:23 Yeah, we call it the School of Religion.
01:24 The School of Religion.
01:25 I've been there about six years. Six years.
01:27 Before that you were at Andrews, is that correct?
01:30 Yes, I was in a New Testament department
01:32 at Andrews University for something like 25 years. Okay.
01:36 And tell us shortly about your doctorate.
01:41 Well, I actually went to Andrews University for the doctorate
01:45 and in the midst of that program I was teaching some classes
01:51 and I guess the students were bit disruptive,
01:54 so they decide to keep me.
01:57 And by the way, Dr. Paulien says that his,
02:00 the favorite things to do in his free time
02:02 is study and read, right? Some of it.
02:06 When you get into it deeply, you want to do more. All right.
02:09 You said you enjoy it rather than--
02:10 That's right. That's right.
02:12 Well, where are we here in Chapter 13 and verses 31?
02:16 Well, this is again a transition point.
02:18 Judas has gone out and sometimes
02:22 there's a presence of a person who can be kind of disruptive.
02:26 People won't really speak totally honestly sometimes
02:30 while someone is there.
02:33 When Judas leaves, it seems to free Jesus
02:36 to be really open with His disciples
02:38 at a level He hadn't before.
02:40 And so the first discourse of Jesus here starts in 13:31
02:45 goes to the end of Chapter 14.
02:48 And starting here is what scholars called
02:52 the farewell discourse of Jesus.
02:56 He is saying goodbye to His disciples.
02:58 He knows that He is going to the cross.
03:00 He knows He is not going to be with them for much longer
03:03 and here He gives some information
03:06 that will prepare them for how to live in His absence.
03:10 So a major theme of this farewell discourses,
03:15 which goes all the way up through 16 is the Holy Spirit
03:19 because in a real sense, the Holy Spirit replaces Jesus
03:23 and does for the disciples what Jesus Himself was gonna do.
03:28 But there is a second theme here
03:30 and that is in a real sense the disciples themselves
03:33 replace Jesus on this earth.
03:36 So through the Holy Spirit, the disciples are enabled
03:40 to do the work that Jesus had been doing
03:42 on earth throughout the world.
03:44 And Jesus even says, it's better if I go away
03:48 because I am only one but through My disciples
03:51 the world can be impacted even more deeply
03:54 and more extensively than otherwise.
03:58 So farewell discourses are pretty common.
04:03 In the Old Testament you can think of Joshua,
04:07 who gave a farewell discourse, Jacob in Genesis 49,
04:12 David in 1 Chronicles 28 and 29.
04:16 You have a number of people who give a farewell
04:19 when they are about to die or about to leave
04:23 and Jesus picks up on this and does it.
04:27 Now the theme of the first part is love
04:30 and He picks up really on Chapter 13:1.
04:34 Why don't you read that again?
04:36 "Now before the feast of the Passover,
04:38 when Jesus knew that His hour had come
04:40 that He should depart from this world to the Father,
04:43 having loved his own who were in the world,
04:46 He loved them to the end." All right.
04:49 So here Jesus indicates that His focus now
04:53 is going to be on the love that He has for them
04:56 and the whole foot washing is all about that love.
04:59 When you get to verse 31,
05:01 the translation doesn't reflect it but just read that verse.
05:04 "So when he had gone out, Jesus said,
05:07 'Now the Son of Man is glorified,
05:09 and God is glorified in him.'"
05:11 Its' clear that translators didn't really know
05:14 what to do with the Greek here,
05:16 that's the same as true
05:17 with the translation I have in my hand.
05:20 The Greek word is therefore.
05:22 Judas leaves and then therefore.
05:26 Therefore, you don't start a new paragraph.
05:29 You don't start a new chapter with therefore.
05:32 Clearly what happens from verse 31 on
05:35 is designed to explain to some degree what happened before,
05:40 the foot washing, Judas leaving etcetera.
05:43 Jesus, now, that Judas is gone opens Himself up.
05:48 You know, it's hard to talk about spiritual things
05:50 when somebody is around
05:52 who is just dismissive or disrespectful.
05:55 Judas has gone, now Jesus goes
05:58 heart to heart with the disciples.
06:01 I would suggest you read
06:03 verses 31 to the end of the chapter.
06:05 It's one of the most famous parts of all the four gospels.
06:09 We will pick up on 32 then, "If God is glorified in Him,
06:13 God will also glorify Him in Himself,
06:16 and glorify Him immediately.
06:18 Little children, I shall be with you a little while longer.
06:23 You will seek Me, and I've said to the Jews,
06:26 'Where I am going, you cannot come,'
06:28 so now I say to you.
06:30 A new commandment I give you, that you love one another,
06:34 as I have loved you, you also love one another.
06:37 By this all will know that you are My disciples,
06:40 if you have love for one another.
06:42 Simon Peter said to Him, 'Lord, where are You going?'
06:46 Jesus answered him,
06:47 'Where I am going you cannot follow Me now,
06:50 but you shall follow Me afterward.'
06:52 Peter said to Him,
06:53 'Lord, why can I not follow You now?
06:56 I will lay down my life for Your sake.'
06:58 Jesus answered him,
07:00 'Will you lay down your life for My sake?
07:02 Most assuredly, I say to you, the rooster shall not crow
07:06 till you have denied Me three times.'"
07:09 Couple things dynamics happening in this passage.
07:12 First of all it's stating a theme that's constantly
07:16 throughout this farewell discourse,
07:18 that is Jesus is saying, "I am going away,
07:21 and where I am going you cannot follow."
07:25 He elaborates that later on to say,
07:26 "I am going away and where I am going you can't follow now
07:32 but you will follow later."
07:34 So He is alluding here that He is going to His death
07:37 but in the broader sense,
07:39 he is also alluding to His ascension.
07:41 After the death Jesus comes back but not to stay.
07:44 He comes back to ascend to heaven.
07:47 So He lets them know, He is going away
07:49 and disciples get very depressed about this
07:52 and you will see the impact of that
07:55 as we go through these chapters.
07:57 The other theme of the section is love
08:01 and in verses 34 and 35 Jesus says,
08:05 "A new command I give you,
08:07 love one another as I have loved you.
08:11 So you must love one another."
08:12 What's the key to that kind of love?
08:15 I think it was illustrated in the foot washing service.
08:18 The only way you can have deep long lasting love
08:23 is through daily, hourly forgiveness.
08:29 In my marriage, you know,
08:31 we, two people living together, working together,
08:35 trying to develop a relationship,
08:37 we've been together 39 years.
08:39 I can tell you that the best times
08:42 have been since we truly grasp this
08:45 that you can't be in an intimate relationship
08:49 year after, year after year without forgiveness.
08:52 We all say stuff, do stuff that irritates the other person.
08:56 If you focus on the irritations,
08:58 the relationship just grinds to halt.
09:01 But if you have the self sacrificing spirit of Jesus,
09:07 one can go into that relationship
09:09 with the intent of forgiveness. Everyday forgive.
09:14 You know, we sometimes let irritations pile up.
09:19 You know, years of them, decades of them
09:22 and people get snippier and snippier with each other.
09:25 And then comes the time when you realize I need to forgive,
09:30 get that whole load out of the way
09:32 and then forgive everyday.
09:35 You see the big forgiveness is baptism,
09:39 the little forgiveness is foot washing.
09:42 So foot washing represents those daily little irritations
09:46 that we need to just lay aside.
09:48 And if we forgive them,
09:49 then they can't get in the way of the relationship
09:52 and to just keep forgiving.
09:53 And Jesus says in verse 35, "This is how men will know
09:59 that you are My disciples because of the love
10:03 that you have for one another."
10:05 A challenge I might throw out to our viewers.
10:09 The church where you attend,
10:10 the religious community that you are part of,
10:12 is it known in the community for its love
10:17 or is it known for other things?
10:20 Jesus says, "People will know that you know Me
10:26 by the love you have for each other"
10:29 because that love is a miracle.
10:32 Genuine Jesus type love isn't something you can manufacture.
10:37 It isn't something you can get up in the morning and say,
10:38 I am going to love today, you know, no.
10:41 That genuine love is a miracle whenever it happens
10:44 and forgiveness, true genuine forgiveness
10:47 is a miracle whenever it happens.
10:50 And so Jesus points this out.
10:53 The miracle that truly demonstrates that God is real
10:59 and that this community is following Him,
11:01 that miracle is the way that they treat each other.
11:04 And as we treat each other that will be the miracle
11:08 that secular people, atheist, non-Christians
11:12 that are out there looking and say,
11:13 "I've never seen that before. That is amazing."
11:17 But if they look at a Christian community
11:19 and see people that are snipping at each other,
11:22 see people that are acting
11:23 just like anybody in the world would act.
11:25 They will look and say, he's not doing anything,
11:28 he's not changing anything.
11:29 This isn't significant, this isn't helpful.
11:33 So he says by this everyone will know that you are My disciples.
11:38 You love one another
11:39 because disciples do what the Master does.
11:42 They wash feet just like the Master did.
11:45 If you do what Jesus did, people will say,
11:47 that's different, that's amazing.
11:50 And forgiveness and love
11:51 are very connected to one another. Absolutely.
11:54 I cannot love if I don't have the spirit of forgiveness.
11:59 If I am not willing to forgive you,
12:00 if I don't forgive how can I allow
12:02 that bitterness in my heart to go
12:05 and at the same time wanting to love.
12:09 And the gospel writer of John in 1 John as well,
12:14 he talk so much of love, the God is love
12:17 and that if we don't forgive--
12:19 we can't forgive others how can we love God. That's right.
12:24 How can you love God whom you've never seen,
12:27 if you can't love people that you can see?
12:28 And the love that Jesus is talking about
12:31 is to love people when it hurts,
12:34 to love people when it's inconvenient,
12:36 to love people even when other people are mocking you.
12:40 That kind of love can't be taught.
12:43 It's a miracle when it happens.
12:45 And those who wish to follow Jesus,
12:48 given themselves to Him, allow Him to transform them
12:52 into that kind of love.
12:54 Well, that sounds like a wonderful discourse to give
12:57 just before you leave a farewell,
12:59 as we say a farewell discourse on love.
13:02 And so where else is Jesus taking the disciples
13:06 as far as His discourse?
13:08 Well, in Chapter 14, He takes them in another direction.
13:11 And He speaks again to this idea,
13:14 He is going away but He is going to come back.
13:17 John 14:1-3.
13:20 "Let not your heart be troubled
13:22 you believe in God, believe also in me.
13:24 In my Father's house are many mansions
13:27 if it were not so, I would have told you.
13:29 I go to prepare a place for you.
13:32 And if I go and prepare a place for you,
13:34 I will come again, and receive you to myself,
13:37 that where I am, there you may be also be."
13:41 So the disciples are alarmed that Jesus is going away
13:47 but the first comfort He gives them,
13:49 He says, "Look, I am going away
13:51 but there's a purpose in my going away.
13:53 I am going to be preparing a place for you
13:55 and you will join me there later on."
13:59 So the first point of comfort is that when He goes away,
14:03 they can be assured that He will come back.
14:06 So I think at this point we should go to a break
14:09 but let's come back to these three verses when we return.


Revised 2014-12-17