Participants: Deyvy Rodriguez & Jon Paulien
Series Code: JBOTB
Program Code: JBOTB00009B
00:01 And we're back and we're talking about the Samaritan woman
00:04 and with me is Dr. Jon Paulien
00:06 and we're talking about this satisfying water
00:10 and Jesus was saying
00:11 that whoever drinks of this water will thirst again.
00:14 And by the way we've some water here.
00:16 Water is good. I mean this is real water.
00:21 Now this water is satisfying. It is.
00:23 Especially when you're very thirsty.
00:24 It's very good, But you know what,
00:26 three hours from now we're gonna need some more.
00:28 So tell us about this satisfying water
00:31 then that we'll never thirst again.
00:32 What's Jesus doing here?
00:34 Yeah, I mean, water is really good, we need it.
00:37 You see but there's something
00:39 even more satisfying that He's offering.
00:42 And perhaps the way to illustrate this.
00:44 You know, you go to a young person and you say,
00:46 you know, how come you not going to church?
00:48 And they might say well, I want to have fun.
00:51 Your church isn't fun and to be honest
00:54 church often isn't fun, you know.
00:56 So you said to them, well, where do you have fun?
00:58 Oh, I go to the club.
01:00 Oh, so when you're in the club, are you having fun?
01:02 Yeah, I'm having fun.
01:04 What happens when you leave the club?
01:06 Well, the fun stops.
01:08 You see so fun is what happens when you're having it
01:12 and when you're not having it,
01:14 it doesn't impact the rest of your life.
01:16 It's just something you do that's a piece of your life.
01:18 But joy is something that last
01:23 through everything, even suffering.
01:25 You can have joy even in suffering.
01:27 In other words there is a satisfaction
01:30 that doesn't end when you leave the club
01:33 or when you leave wherever you're having fun,
01:36 when you're no longer at the beach and so on.
01:38 You can still have joy. You can have peace.
01:41 You can have a deep satisfaction.
01:43 And that comes in Jesus Christ.
01:46 The value that we have with Him,
01:48 the relationship that we have with Him,
01:50 undergirds everything we do.
01:52 And even in hardship and suffering,
01:54 you can still have joy.
01:56 Fun? No. Suffering is not fun.
01:59 But you can have joy in suffering.
02:02 So Jesus is seeking to offer that woman,
02:04 I mean why has she had all these husbands?
02:07 Must have been her life just isn't working out.
02:10 It just constantly challenging.
02:13 So without Jesus then we can have satisfaction,
02:16 but it's only temporary?
02:19 And we have fun would be a better word,
02:21 because it doesn't last. Right.
02:22 Yeah. Right.
02:23 Whereas the living water that Jesus gives us
02:27 is everlasting, it's not temporary.
02:29 And it stays with you
02:31 through the good times and the bad times.
02:34 Let's go on to verse 16.
02:36 "Jesus said to her, 'Go, call your husband and come here.'
02:41 The woman answered and said 'I have no husband.'
02:44 Jesus said to her, 'You had said,
02:46 You had well said, I have no husband.
02:49 For you have had five husbands,
02:52 and the one whom you now have is not your husband,
02:55 in that you spoke truly.'"
02:58 Now do you remember in the previous program
03:00 we talked about the light that shines on somebody
03:03 and reveals their inner secrets?
03:06 That's happening right here.
03:08 This woman didn't come to the well
03:09 to make any great confessions,
03:12 especially when she sees a Jew.
03:14 She's not about to tell him any of her secret life.
03:17 So she's busy dancing and hiding and so on
03:20 and then Jesus comes right and He says,
03:23 you're telling Me the truth.
03:25 You've had five husbands
03:27 and the one you're living with now, isn't your husband.
03:30 Interesting piece of that is that the Jewish narrative
03:33 about the Samaritans is that they were settled
03:36 by from five cities over in Persia.
03:41 People were brought from there and came here
03:44 and they learned the language--
03:46 the religion of Yahweh and so on
03:48 when they got here to these mountains of Samaria.
03:52 So from the Jewish prospective these were not real Hebrews,
03:57 these were not a real followers of God.
04:00 They were just sort of painted on,
04:01 they are actually from five other places.
04:03 They were married to five pagan cities, you see.
04:07 And right now there was Yahweh
04:11 but He's not really their husband.
04:13 You see, they're worshipping the God of Israel,
04:15 but it's not really their husband.
04:16 Did they really--their hearts are with these other five.
04:19 So it's interesting how the story dovetails
04:24 with the history of the Samaritans here.
04:27 Jesus is shining the light of judgment on her.
04:30 He's showing the truth about her and does she accept it?
04:37 No, she deflects.
04:40 She tries to turn into a theological argument.
04:42 You notice that.
04:44 You go on and here, He says, you know, you're right.
04:48 You know, you don't-- you don't have a husband,
04:51 you aren't married.
04:52 She says, oh. She says, I see you're prophet.
04:55 Well, maybe you can clear up a theological question for me?
04:58 You know, where is the right place to worship,
05:00 this mountain or that mountain, you see,
05:03 So when Jesus touches her heart she backs off
05:08 and that's an illustration of what
05:11 He tells about in John 3,
05:13 that when the light shines people often shy away from it
05:16 because they don't want their deeds to be exposed.
05:18 And one way that we avoid
05:20 serious spiritual encounters is we ask theological questions.
05:27 Theology and questions and so on can be a diversion
05:32 from facing the real truth about oneself.
05:36 Now to me it seems that Nicodemus
05:39 and the Samaritan woman have some kind of similarities.
05:43 So both come to Jesus in darkness, is that right?
05:48 Well, she comes at noon.
05:49 Well, I mean in darkness, in spiritual darkness.
05:51 Spiritual darkness, yeah. Right.
05:54 And while Nicodemus has been baptized with the waters,
05:59 we said he lacked the spirit and this woman has the water,
06:04 yet she lacks the everlasting water
06:07 and that's where, you know, Jesus comes in and says
06:10 this is what you need in your life.
06:12 Are you trying to marry this off?
06:14 I don't know.
06:17 But there seems to be that connection
06:19 and you said earlier, you will talk about marriage.
06:22 I don't know if you can do that now or maybe--
06:24 Yeah, shall we do that?
06:25 All right, well, let's do that.
06:27 The--you have the situation of Nicodemus
06:29 and Samaritan woman seem paired off almost
06:32 in fact they are opposites on nearly everything.
06:34 I wrote it down because it was so interesting.
06:37 He's man, she's a woman.
06:41 He's a Jew, she's a Samaritan.
06:45 He's rich. How do we know that?
06:47 He was member of the Samaritan.
06:48 She's poor. How do we know that?
06:51 She was carrying her own water.
06:54 If you were rich you would have other people
06:56 carry the water for you and fill your cistern
06:59 for you shower and everything.
07:02 He comes in the middle of the night.
07:04 She comes at noon. Why is she coming at noon?
07:07 Probably to avoid all the social encounters
07:09 that usually happened at sunrise and sunset at the well.
07:13 The woman looked down on her
07:15 and she just didn't want to be part of that.
07:18 He was educated. How do we know?
07:20 Because he was a teacher of Israel.
07:23 She was illiterate. How do we know?
07:26 She was a woman, woman didn't get educated in those days.
07:31 He was respected. She was despised.
07:34 He had a great name, Nicodemus you know.
07:38 She was Anonymous.
07:40 We don't even know what her name was.
07:42 But here's interesting. He was slow to understand
07:46 and she understood.
07:48 And so Jesus says he really was.
07:51 He lived in the Holy City.
07:54 And she lived in a town of drunkenness.
07:57 So what's going on here?
07:59 Why are these two opposites
08:00 being put side by side in this story?
08:03 Because both of them are acted parables of John 3:16.
08:09 God so loved the world, that He gave His only son
08:13 that whoever believes in Him, might not perish,
08:17 but have everlasting life.
08:19 These are the opposite ends of whosoever.
08:22 You go to one extreme, you go to the other extreme
08:24 and Jesus says it's for everybody.
08:27 I don't care where you've been,
08:29 I don't care what you've done,
08:31 the gospel is for you.
08:32 Now where is the connection when it comes to marriage here?
08:37 Well, you tend to marry your opposites,
08:39 so this too seems set up. All right.
08:43 Are you implying that they married
08:44 or is that a tradition? No, no, no, don't--
08:46 Okay, we're just trying to clear that up here.
08:48 It's in the text though, within the story of the text.
08:51 It's interesting how these are matching pair.
08:54 Opposites attract.
08:55 And I think that's intentional, it's a matching pair
08:58 to show the opposites sides of God's grace,
09:02 that He can reach out
09:03 to the farthest edges of the opportunity here.
09:07 Why don't we come back to verses 23 and 24.
09:10 "But the hour is coming, and now is,
09:13 when the true worshippers will worship the Father in spirit,
09:16 and in truth, for the Father is seeking such to worship him.
09:20 God is spirit, and those who worship Him
09:22 must worship in spirit and truth."
09:26 In the Gospel of John,
09:28 the spirit is often the opposite of the material.
09:33 It's the opposite of rituals,
09:35 you know, just going on the surface,
09:36 the spirit goes deep.
09:38 It goes beyond the surface, the true genuine transformation.
09:43 To worship Him in truth, in the synoptic gospels
09:47 the word truth rarely appears in Matthew, Mark and Luke.
09:50 This is one of John's favorite words.
09:53 It's all about the truth.
09:55 If the truth will set you free,
09:58 if you find me, you'll find the truth,
10:01 and the truth is in the words of Jesus,
10:04 the truth is found in the actions of Jesus,
10:08 and it's found in the ministry,
10:10 you know the ongoing ministry of the Holy Spirit.
10:13 After Jesus goes, the Holy Spirit brings the truth.
10:16 He's the spirit of truth.
10:19 So it's focusing in that Jesus is what truth is all about.
10:26 And if you found Jesus as you really is,
10:30 you will have the truth.
10:31 You will know what God is like
10:33 and you'll know the place that you can have with Him.
10:37 But there are many other past to truth
10:40 but they don't lead to truth in the way that Jesus does.
10:44 That's the core of what's happening here.
10:47 And she met the truth, she met the Messiah
10:50 as you said there that comparison
10:52 or that contrast is that she--
10:56 she understood that this was the Messiah. That's right.
11:00 You see though how the Samaritan woman,
11:03 Nicodemus and so on these are like representative characters?
11:07 For John they have meaning beyond the simple fact
11:11 that they were people in the story.
11:13 The Baptist, and the story comes to represent his whole movement.
11:18 Nicodemus represents the Pharisees
11:20 and the Jewish leaders in the way they responded.
11:23 This woman represents the Samaritan's
11:26 and everybody who's an outcast.
11:28 Pilate represents Rome, you know, so--
11:31 so the characters in the story are specifically chosen,
11:35 because they have a focus and a place.
11:39 So with Nicodemus and a Samaritan woman
11:42 they are part of this whole story of John
11:45 to build the bigger story and they mark off
11:49 the ends of Jesus' grace and mercy.
11:54 Gods beautiful character, because it tells us for today,
11:58 it doesn't really matter who you're,
12:02 where you've been, what you've done?
12:05 Like Nicodemus and the Samaritan woman,
12:08 what Jesus does is for you.
12:10 "God so loved the world that he gave his only son for you."
12:15 If Nicodemus could be reached
12:17 in all of his hiding and self deception,
12:20 if the Samaritan woman could be reached
12:22 with her five husbands and the mess of her life
12:25 there's certainly hope for you.
12:27 And there's no room for prejudice.
12:30 No room for saying one person is way better than other.
12:34 We're all equal at the foot of the cross, Deyvy.
12:38 Dr. Paulien, we want to thank you again
12:40 for being with us in this Bible study.
12:42 And friends, I also want to thank you for being with us
12:45 and as Dr. Paulien, he was saying
12:47 that God is reaching out to you and He's making that invitation
12:51 just as He did to Nicodemus and to this woman
12:54 to come and not thirst again,
12:59 but to drink of that everlasting water,
13:02 that only Christ can give.
13:04 Thank you, till next time.