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Series Code: IIWC
Program Code: IIWC202323S
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00:03 ♪♪ 00:37 [gentle piano music playing] 00:40 ♪♪ 00:43 >> Welcome to It Is Written 00:44 Canada. 00:45 Thank you for joining us. 00:47 >> That day in May when Karen 00:48 Dobbin was told her mammogram 00:50 was worrisome, she had a core 00:52 biopsy done and was told not to 00:55 use her right arm for the rest 00:56 of the day. 00:58 Even though no one had yet 01:00 conveyed those dreaded words, 01:02 "You have breast cancer," she 01:05 knew she needed to talk and 01:07 listen to her Heavenly Father 01:10 that afternoon. 01:12 >> Today, our special guest, 01:12 Karen Dobbin, is here to share 01:15 her story of how God clearly 01:17 spoke to her that day and how He 01:19 continued to guide her on to a 01:22 career path she could never have 01:25 anticipated. 01:26 >> Karen, thank you for joining 01:28 us on It Is Written Canada. 01:31 >> Thank you so much for the 01:31 opportunity to share my story, 01:33 Mike and René, I'm very happy to 01:35 be here. 01:36 >> Karen, before we get into the 01:37 details of your conversation 01:39 with God and how He was 01:40 speaking to you, 01:42 can you take us back and 01:44 tell us about yourself and what 01:46 you do for a living, 01:47 your family? 01:49 >> Yes, I've been a third 01:50 generation Seventh-day Adventist 01:52 Christian, and I immigrated to 01:54 Canada when I was young from 01:55 England, but I'm totally 01:57 Canadian now. 01:58 I went to university and have my 02:01 degree in physiotherapy, so I've 02:03 been practicing as a 02:04 physiotherapist for 02:07 quite a few years. 02:08 I married Brett, my husband, and 02:11 we have a adult daughter, 02:13 Brittany, who's 28 now. 02:17 >> Karen, can you take us back 02:20 to that day in May when your 02:22 mammogram results came back 02:25 worrisome? 02:26 >> Well, that was a very tough 02:27 day for me, as it would be for 02:29 most people. 02:30 I had not yet been told I had 02:32 breast cancer, 02:34 but I knew 02:36 it likely was breast cancer. 02:38 So that day I had to actually 02:41 cancel my work day. 02:42 I was gonna work in the 02:44 afternoon and I found out I 02:46 couldn't work in the afternoon. 02:47 I went home to pray and to talk 02:50 to God and I also got out of my 02:53 grandmother's old promise box. 02:56 And that 02:58 afternoon I asked God to 03:01 help me with a promise. 03:03 And the first 03:05 tight scroll I took out... 03:08 ...the verse said, 03:09 "Your Father knoweth." 03:11 And I just burst out crying 03:13 because it was just amazing to 03:15 me that God knew that day 03:17 that what had happened to me, 03:20 He knew that I had had a 03:21 mammogram, He knew that I 03:23 likely had breast cancer, 03:25 He knew exactly from that 03:27 day and even before that. 03:29 Your Father knows what you need 03:30 before you even ask Him. 03:32 And that verse has really spoken 03:35 to me and that's the theme of my 03:37 story, is that my Father knows. 03:40 >> Karen, you're also the health 03:42 leader at your church and you 03:43 and your team were running a 03:44 complete health improvement 03:46 program. 03:47 And there was a big banquet that 03:49 evening and God, 03:50 at that event, 03:52 gave you another confirmation 03:54 that He knew what you were 03:55 going through. 03:57 >> Yes, it was also a tough day 03:59 because that was the day I 04:00 officially had my diagnosis. 04:03 I had actually taken the day off 04:05 and-- because preparing for this 04:06 banquet is a lot of work so I 04:08 had the day off anyway, but that 04:11 morning I went and had my actual 04:13 diagnosis and my husband was 04:15 with me. 04:16 We ended up going out for lunch 04:17 and crying and all of that, 04:20 I was anyway, and 04:23 I had to sort of 04:24 wipe my tears and put away my 04:26 fears and I had to go early to 04:29 set up for the banquet for that 04:30 evening. 04:31 We were in a community hall, and 04:34 so I went early and I had all my 04:36 supplies and things I had to 04:37 bring in. 04:38 And so... 04:41 ...the place we were in was, 04:43 it was this foyer, large, large 04:46 foyer with all these coat racks 04:48 and coat hangers. 04:50 And this was may, it wasn't cold 04:52 out so there was really no need 04:54 for the coat racks, there's no 04:56 coats on the coat racks. 04:58 And I was there early, as I 05:01 said, and I was looking, you 05:03 know, as I was going in, 05:04 I saw a book. 05:06 There's nothing else on top of 05:07 these coat racks. 05:08 I saw this book and this was the 05:10 book I saw and this was the day 05:12 I was diagnosed. 05:14 "A Cup of Comfort for Breast 05:15 Cancer Survivors." 05:17 And I was just like, wow! 05:19 God put this there for me. 05:22 My Father knew that I needed 05:24 this that day. 05:26 And so I 05:28 took the book and I 05:29 later read it when I got home 05:32 later on and I still have it, 05:34 which I am-- it's just a sign to 05:36 me that my Father knew what I 05:37 was going through and knew what 05:39 was coming ahead for me and He 05:41 was there right from that time, 05:43 which was wonderful. 05:44 And so that was just another 05:46 sign from God. 05:51 >> So, Karen, you're putting on 05:53 this big banquet and organizing 05:55 everything and you're handing 05:58 out awards to those people that 06:01 completed the program, 06:03 but no one knows 06:05 that you had cancer. 06:07 >> Well, the only person that 06:08 knew was my husband and-- but no 06:11 one else knew. 06:12 I had to compartmentalize 06:15 things, I had to get through the 06:16 evening and sort of I had to not 06:19 think about what had happened 06:20 earlier that day. 06:22 It was very, very tough, but God 06:23 was with me. 06:24 I mean, providing a book like 06:26 this just said that God is with 06:28 me, He's on my side, He knows 06:29 what I'm going through. 06:31 And so, yes, it was tough, 06:33 but I got through that and 06:35 God was amazing. 06:37 >> Karen, now you've been 06:39 diagnosed with cancer. 06:41 Can you tell us about your 06:42 treatments? 06:44 [KAREN] Yes. 06:46 I first had 06:48 my surgery and that was 06:49 actually in, 06:51 within a few weeks of my 06:54 diagnosis, so it just happened 06:55 very quickly. 06:57 I, so I had surgery and 07:00 I-- then after that, 07:03 you have to have a recovery 07:04 after your surgery 07:06 and then I had chemotherapy. 07:08 And my main chemotherapy was 07:10 over six sessions 07:12 over four months. 07:14 So I had an infusion every 07:16 three weeks. 07:17 So my clinical trial went for a 07:19 full year and unfortunately I 07:21 did not have any side effects 07:22 of that. 07:23 But after my main chemo, the 07:25 first four months, I then did 07:28 radiation 07:29 for 25 sessions. 07:31 And through all of this 07:33 I was 07:35 treated very, very well in the 07:37 CancerCare and I, 07:39 you know, was 07:41 praying every single day to get 07:42 through my treatments. 07:44 It was rough and, you know, I 07:46 don't wish anyone to go through 07:48 treatments like that, but God 07:51 got me through. 07:51 My husband, my family were so 07:54 supportive and I got through it. 07:58 >> So, Karen, did you ever have 08:01 any fear of recurrence? 08:05 [KAREN] You know, I have not 08:07 and I still don't have a fear of 08:09 recurrence. 08:10 And to me, I credit God for that 08:12 because He's taken that fear out 08:14 of my body, out of my mind. 08:16 And I'm very happy about that 08:19 because I have treated many 08:21 patients that have a high, high 08:23 fear of recurrence, and it just 08:25 affects their day to day living. 08:26 And I have never had that fear 08:29 of recurrence and I thank God 08:30 for that so much. 08:33 >> Karen, you're a 08:33 physiotherapist and in the 08:35 process of going through your 08:36 own treatments, you started to 08:39 recognize that there was a place 08:41 for you as a physiotherapist to 08:43 help other cancer patients, and 08:46 it changed your life, changed 08:47 your career. 08:48 [KAREN] Absolutely. 08:50 And this is another thing my 08:51 Father knew. 08:52 He knew I was going to refocus 08:54 my career and to me, again, 08:56 that's amazing. 08:57 So what happened is as I was 08:58 going through my treatments, 09:00 I saw huge gaps 09:03 at CancerCare 09:04 for rehabilitation. 09:05 There were no physios that 09:07 worked at CancerCare. 09:09 There were very few services for 09:12 rehabilitation and survivorship 09:14 and so that is when I went 09:17 to grad school and I realized I 09:20 need to have better credentials 09:22 in this area, I need to be more 09:24 knowledgeable in this area and 09:27 if I'm going to have some sort 09:28 of impact within CancerCare, I 09:30 need to, you know, go to school 09:33 myself. 09:34 So that's when I did my master's 09:35 degree and I did my thesis 09:38 research in the area of 09:40 cancer rehabilitation. 09:42 And also along with that, I did 09:43 multiple other courseworks, 09:45 I did other certification 09:46 in cancer rehabilitation. 09:48 I'm also a certified lymphedema 09:50 therapist. 09:51 So I did all these 09:51 certifications and lots of 09:52 courses and I still do 09:54 coursework now, but that, going 09:56 to my master's was a very 09:58 important step I thought I 09:59 needed to have in order to have, 10:01 you know, really good 10:02 credentials. 10:05 >> Karen, can you tell us about 10:06 the challenges that you faced 10:09 going back to school and doing 10:11 your masters? 10:13 [KAREN] Well, I graduated from 10:15 university when I was in my 10:16 twenties, and I 10:18 went back to do my 10:21 masters when I was in 10:22 my forties. 10:23 And so things had changed so, so 10:25 much with, you know, the 10:27 university systems, the library 10:29 system, all of this. 10:30 And so it took me three months 10:32 to relearn how to learn. 10:34 So that was a certain challenge 10:35 and I said to myself, "Karen, 10:37 what on earth are you doing? 10:38 This is crazy." 10:40 But once I got 10:42 learning the-- 10:43 how things were done, you know, 10:44 and with the computers and all 10:46 of that, I really got into my 10:48 research and it was-- ended up 10:50 being very, very good. 10:53 [RENÉ] Karen, can you share with 10:54 us more challenges that you 10:56 faced after your diagnosis and 10:59 working on your masters? 11:02 [KAREN] Well, one of the biggest 11:03 challenges that I think is a 11:04 universal problem after you've 11:06 been diagnosed with cancer is 11:08 the financial side of things. 11:10 I was not working for over 11:13 two to three years. 11:14 I did have some disability, but 11:17 that, you know, I had to finish 11:18 that and so I was in my master's 11:20 program as well, so I wasn't 11:22 working. 11:23 And so it's a huge challenge for 11:25 many people that are diagnosed 11:26 with any type of cancer. 11:29 So I had applied for a couple of 11:31 scholarships and I got a few, 11:34 you know, smaller amounts of 11:35 scholarships through my masters, 11:37 but there was a fellowship which 11:39 was going to be 11:41 from the Canadian Breast Cancer 11:43 Foundation. 11:44 It was a national fellowship. 11:46 And so I applied, you know, 11:48 hoping that I would get it. 11:49 It was actually gonna be a one 11:50 year salary. 11:52 And I prayed about it. 11:53 I knew this would be something 11:56 that would help me through the 11:58 rest of my master's program. 12:01 And so it was December and 12:05 my daughter, Brittany, was at 12:06 home from I think it was, 12:08 you know, Christmas holidays 12:10 or something, she was home 12:11 at the time with me, 12:13 and I got an email... 12:15 ...and I had received the 12:16 scholarship. 12:17 And so I jumped up from my 12:19 computer chair and I ran over to 12:21 where my daughter was and 12:22 I said, "Brittany, I got it, 12:24 I got it!" 12:25 And we were just jumping up and 12:26 down, hugging each other. 12:28 It was an absolute godsend. 12:30 And my Father knew again that I 12:32 needed this and it was 12:34 absolutely, saved us 12:37 financially. 12:38 And the other interesting thing, 12:40 there was only five of these 12:42 fellowships given out across 12:43 Canada. 12:45 I was one of five and I was the 12:46 only person that was not like a 12:49 Ph.D. or post-doctorate 12:51 microbiologist researcher. 12:53 I, my master's level 12:55 and I was... 12:58 ...you know, look-- 12:59 researching cancer rehab. 13:01 So I was one of five and I was 13:02 just amazing that I got this 13:04 fellowship. 13:04 So what that did, it helped me 13:06 to finish up my master's program 13:08 and then also part of that 13:10 fellowship was for starting some 13:12 work at CancerCare 13:14 to develop physiotherapy 13:16 cancer rehab in Manitoba. 13:20 So it's amazing. 13:21 [MIKE] That is amazing. 13:22 So now you have your master's 13:24 degree. 13:25 How did that change the way that 13:27 you did physiotherapy? 13:29 [KAREN] It absolutely 13:30 changed it. 13:31 I now work... 13:34 ...not entirely, but 13:36 mostly with cancer patients. 13:38 So I do physiotherapy cancer 13:40 rehabilitation. 13:41 I'm actually now the first and 13:43 only physio therapist in 13:44 CancerCare Manitoba, where 13:46 prior there was no 13:47 physiotherapist there. 13:48 And so some people have called 13:50 me a bit of a pioneer. 13:51 I kind of don't think-- feel 13:53 that, but they've called 13:54 me that. 13:55 And so I 13:58 treat, you know, cancer patients 14:00 and I don't tell 14:02 all my patients my story, 14:04 but sometimes I do. 14:05 I think God sometimes inspires 14:06 me to share my story, and when I 14:09 do, it absolutely changes the 14:11 dynamic of a relationship 14:12 because the-- especially breast 14:13 cancer patients, you know, when 14:15 tell them what I've been 14:17 through, it-- I just have this 14:19 connection with my patients. 14:21 And even if it's not breast 14:22 cancer or someone with breast 14:24 cancer, it's still a connection 14:26 that I know what it's like to 14:27 have surgery and chemotherapy 14:29 and radiation and be off work 14:31 and all these kind of things. 14:32 I know what it's like to get a 14:33 diagnosis. 14:34 I mean, even just getting a 14:35 diagnosis like that, it's very 14:37 devastating. 14:38 But when I share those kind of 14:40 things with my patients, it just 14:42 makes the relationship and 14:43 connection so much better. 14:45 And the-- I feel I can help them 14:47 more, you know, I know what 14:49 they've been going through and I 14:50 can help them in such a more 14:53 deep way because of what I've 14:55 gone through. 14:56 And what this has also 14:58 done for me is 15:01 it has given me huge meaning 15:03 for my own diagnosis. 15:04 It's given me a greater purpose 15:07 related to my own diagnosis. 15:09 And so my Father knew this. 15:11 He knew that I needed to go 15:13 through this to be a better 15:15 physiotherapist, to provide 15:18 physiotherapy to people in need, 15:20 to provide them maybe some 15:21 recovery and some hope. 15:23 And my Father knew this. 15:24 And so it's just amazing 15:27 what He's done. 15:28 It's just amazing. 15:30 >> Karen, can you share with us 15:32 some of the treatments that you 15:34 do with your cancer patients? 15:36 [KAREN] Well, as a 15:37 physiotherapists, we treat many, 15:39 many things, but our cancer 15:40 patients have many needs. 15:43 I'll give you an example of one 15:44 of our patients. 15:46 He, we first saw him actually in 15:48 the CancerCare chemotherapy 15:50 area and the nurses said, 15:52 "Karen, he needs physiotherapy." 15:54 So I actually brought him into, 15:56 you know, our treatment area for 15:57 physiotherapy and he 16:00 actually came 16:01 down to our area 16:03 actually first in a wheelchair 16:05 and we transferred him into 16:07 one of our waiting room 16:08 or waiting area chairs 16:10 and then we brought him into 16:12 the treatment area and he 16:14 needed two people to assist him 16:16 to get out of his chair. 16:17 He was so weak, so-- such poor 16:20 mobility. 16:21 And so we treated him, just got 16:23 him exercising. 16:24 We did some hands on sort of 16:25 stretching and things like that. 16:27 So when we finished six weeks of 16:30 treatment with him, he walked 16:31 out of there independently with 16:33 a cane and he was so happy, 16:35 he had a 16:36 really improved quality of life. 16:38 And to me as a physiotherapist 16:40 that is so rewarding and 16:42 especially, you know, with my 16:43 cancer patients that have, you 16:45 know, so many issues after their 16:47 treatments, you know, they, 16:49 they're down like this and then 16:50 you can lift them up to a better 16:52 quality of life, better 16:53 mobility, better strength, 16:55 better day to day functioning. 16:56 And it's just amazing that that 16:58 happens. 16:59 >> That must be so rewarding, 17:01 like you said, oh. 17:02 [KAREN] It is very, very 17:03 rewarding and 17:04 even before, when I wasn't 17:06 treating cancer patients as a 17:07 physiotherapist, that's what we 17:09 do is we get people back to 17:10 their life. 17:11 And so it's-- I love being a 17:13 physio and I love being a physio 17:15 at CancerCare because it's, I'm 17:18 just so passionate about it and 17:19 I see these results with my 17:21 patients. 17:22 It's amazing. 17:23 >> Karen, as I'm listening to 17:25 you, it is kind of seeping into 17:28 my consciousness, this idea that 17:30 God actually gave you a ministry 17:33 through getting a cancer 17:35 diagnosis, becoming qualified 17:38 and dealing with cancer patients 17:40 as a physiotherapist. 17:42 Do you see it as a ministry? 17:43 [KAREN] I absolutely do. 17:45 I see it every day with my 17:47 patients, you know, how I'm able 17:49 to relate to them, how I'm able 17:51 to empathize with their 17:52 situation. 17:53 One little thing that I've 17:54 started just last year is I've 17:56 started rock painting. 17:58 And these are some of my rocks 18:00 and what I did last year is I 18:02 painted some rocks which had 18:04 some, you know, "hope" or 18:06 "strength" on them. 18:07 And I painted about a dozen 18:09 rocks and I gave them away to 18:10 some of my patients. 18:11 And to me that's just a little 18:13 thing I could do. 18:14 And I hope it gave people hope. 18:16 I hope it gave people courage 18:18 and that kind of thing to get 18:20 through their cancer journey. 18:23 And so that's a little thing 18:24 I've done. 18:25 It's, you know, I guess you can 18:26 call it part of my ministry, but 18:28 absolutely it's my ministry and 18:30 I am very passionate about what 18:32 I do and God has given that to 18:35 me through my own diagnosis. 18:38 >> So by writing "hope" and 18:40 "courage," you had a lot of hope 18:42 and courage and peace through 18:45 your husband, Brett, playing. 18:47 [KAREN] Absolutely. 18:49 I know when I was going through 18:50 my treatments, I didn't always 18:52 go to church, but sometimes I 18:54 would, or at home he would play 18:56 the piano for me. 18:57 He's a beautiful pianist and I 19:00 really appreciate his playing 19:02 and he played some very special 19:04 songs for me. 19:05 And one of them is There Is a 19:06 Quiet Place, and I think we'll 19:08 be hearing that song today with 19:11 him playing and Christine 19:12 Wollmann singing. 19:23 [piano playing] 19:26 ♪♪ 19:48 [piano music continues] 19:51 ♪♪ 20:17 ♪ There is ♪ 20:20 ♪ a quiet place ♪ 20:26 ♪ Far from ♪ 20:29 ♪ the rapid pace ♪ 20:32 ♪ Where God ♪ 20:35 ♪ can soothe ♪ 20:39 ♪ my troubled ♪ 20:44 ♪ mind ♪ 20:48 ♪ Sheltered by ♪ 20:51 ♪ tree and flower ♪ 20:56 ♪ There in my ♪ 20:59 ♪ quiet hour ♪ 21:02 ♪ With Him ♪ 21:05 ♪ my cares ♪ 21:08 ♪ are left ♪ 21:12 ♪ behind ♪ 21:18 ♪ Whether ♪ 21:21 ♪ a garden small ♪ 21:26 ♪ Or on ♪ 21:28 ♪ a mountain tall ♪ 21:31 ♪ New strength ♪ 21:34 ♪ and courage ♪ 21:38 ♪ there ♪ 21:40 ♪ I find ♪ 21:46 ♪ Then from ♪ 21:50 ♪ this quiet place ♪ 21:55 ♪ I go ♪ 21:59 ♪ prepare to face ♪ 22:03 ♪ a new day ♪ 22:09 ♪ a new day ♪ 22:15 ♪ with love ♪ 22:17 ♪ for all mankind ♪ 22:33 >> Karen, are there any specific 22:35 Bible promises that you held 22:38 onto during your 22:40 cancer journey? 22:41 >> Well, the main one, which 22:42 I've already mentioned, is sort 22:45 of the theme of my story, which 22:47 is Matthew 6:8. 22:51 So that is something I've held 22:53 onto for a long, long time. 22:56 The other Bible verse is 22:57 Jeremiah 29:11. 23:11 That's a very important promise 23:13 to me and I have actually 23:15 painted this on my paddle. 23:18 And I'll explain a little bit 23:19 about that. 23:20 After my breast cancer 23:21 diagnosis, actually several 23:23 years afterwards, I joined the 23:24 Chemo Savvy Dragon Boat Team. 23:28 And we are a group of breast 23:29 cancer survivors that do 23:31 dragon boating. 23:32 We we train, we practice and we 23:34 participate in races. 23:36 And so my paddle, we were 23:38 allowed to paint our own paddles 23:40 and so on one side of my paddle, 23:43 I have that verse. 23:44 And it just means so much to me 23:46 that God has given me a hope and 23:48 a future, and not just on this 23:50 earth, but in the earth made new 23:52 and it just means so much to me 23:54 that, you know, He has guided me 23:56 through everything that I've 23:57 been through and is still 23:58 guiding me. 23:59 So that's how much it 24:00 means to me. 24:02 >> Karen, what do you see as 24:03 your purpose in sharing 24:05 your story? 24:07 [KAREN] Well, absolutely I don't 24:08 wanna brag about my 24:10 accomplishments. 24:11 I want to rather share what God 24:13 has accomplished through me and 24:15 I want to share my story in a 24:16 hope that it will help other 24:18 people that are going through 24:19 similar circumstances, help them 24:21 to know that God has a purpose 24:23 for their life. 24:25 Also that your Father knows. 24:27 Your Father knows what you're 24:28 going through, your Father knows 24:30 what your challenges are. 24:32 All the, all of that, He knows 24:33 before you even ask Him. 24:35 So I want other people to 24:36 realize that in their lives 24:37 as well. 24:38 >> Final question about your 24:41 Father knowing, it must have 24:43 given you a lot of confidence. 24:44 Did you ever have a question 24:46 in your mind? 24:47 Did you ever say to yourself, I 24:48 wonder why this happened to me? 24:51 [KAREN] You know, I have never 24:52 asked that. 24:54 And, you know, many people that 24:56 are diagnosed with cancer, say, 24:57 "Well, I should have not eaten 24:59 this, I should have eaten that, 25:00 I should have done this exercise 25:02 or not smoked," or whatever, you 25:04 know, people ask a lot of those 25:06 questions when they get 25:07 diagnosed. 25:07 I did not. 25:09 And again, it's something that, 25:11 you know, God took away from me, 25:13 I didn't sort of try and figure 25:15 out why I got cancer and I 25:16 didn't try to blame anything. 25:18 And so now looking back, I 25:20 realize I know why I got cancer. 25:23 I know my Father knew 25:26 and knew my whole story 25:28 through all of this and knew how 25:31 it would change my own life, 25:33 but also help me 25:34 to help other people. 25:36 He knew all that. 25:36 So looking back, I sort of know 25:39 why I have the meaning and the 25:41 purpose to my own diagnosis, 25:43 and that's my story. 25:45 I know there's many people that 25:46 don't necessarily know the 25:48 meaning in their own diagnoses, 25:51 and I don't try and project 25:53 anything on other people, but 25:55 when I share my story, I share 25:58 the meaning I've had behind it 26:00 and purpose behind it. 26:02 But it's not the same for 26:03 everybody. 26:04 But I'm hoping sharing my story 26:06 will give people that 26:08 perspective and maybe that hope 26:10 that God is in charge of 26:12 everything, God knows your 26:14 future, your Father knows all of 26:16 this, and that's the purpose 26:17 behind sharing my story. 26:20 >> Karen, we've come to the end 26:21 of our time together. 26:22 I wonder if you could pray for 26:24 our viewers. 26:25 There may be people who are 26:26 listening right now who are-- 26:29 maybe have received a cancer 26:30 diagnosis and to pray for them 26:33 that they can see that the Lord 26:35 is with them through this 26:36 experience. 26:37 And maybe there's somebody who's 26:38 just going through something 26:39 else that they're they're 26:41 confused about and they need... 26:44 ...prayer and they need God's 26:45 assurance that He is with them. 26:48 >> Absolutely, I will pray 26:49 for us. 26:50 Our dear Heavenly Father, we 26:51 thank You so much for this 26:53 opportunity to be 26:56 here today and to share 26:58 my story. 26:59 You know there's many people out 27:01 there with similar struggles 27:03 that I have had and I'm still 27:05 having sometimes. 27:07 We ask that You be with the 27:09 listeners and help them through 27:12 these difficult times. 27:15 Please show them that You know 27:18 what they need and that You can 27:20 carry them through all these 27:22 difficult times and give them 27:23 hope and a future. 27:25 We pray in Jesus' name, amen. 27:27 [MIKE & RENÉ] Amen. 27:32 >> Friends, listening to Karen's 27:33 story, we could clearly see the 27:36 healing power of prayer. 27:39 >> In her time of greatest need, 27:41 Karen turned to God and He spoke 27:43 to her clearly from His Word, 27:46 the Bible, telling her, "Your 27:49 Father knows." 27:50 [MIKE] Friends, our free offer 27:51 for you is The Incredible Power 27:54 of Prayer that will both 27:56 strengthen your faith in God and 27:58 also introduce you to many 28:00 powerful truths found in the 28:02 Bible that can transform 28:04 your personal prayer life. 28:09 Friends, if you want the kind of 28:10 assurance that Karen 28:12 experienced, we recommend that 28:14 you open this book, the Bible, 28:16 where it is recorded that Jesus 28:18 found His assurance to defeat 28:20 the Devil through the Word of 28:22 His Father when He declared, "It 28:24 is written, 'Man shall not live 28:26 by bread alone, but by every 28:28 word that proceeds out of the 28:30 mouth of God.'" 28:32 [uplifting music playing] 28:35 ♪♪ |
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