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00:13 ♪♪ >> Welcome, 00:22 and thank you for joining us on "It Is Written: Canada." 00:23 One of my favorite verses when I was younger is in 00:26 Proverbs 3:5, where it says, "Trust" -- "Trust in the Lord 00:30 with all your heart and lean not on your own understanding. 00:34 Verse 8 says, "This will bring health to your body 00:38 and nourishment to your bones." So we're going to be talking 00:41 about health today, and we are really honored 00:43 to have with us Dr. George Cho, who's a naturopathic doctor, 00:48 and he practices lifestyle medicine. 00:51 >> And we are also honored to have his brother, Daniel, who is the president 00:56 of a nonprofit organization called Lifestyle Is Medicine. So, George and Daniel, 01:03 welcome here on "It Is Written" this morning, and as you can see, 01:07 George and Daniel are identical twins. >> Thank you for having us. 01:12 >> Yeah. So, thank you for coming in, and people are always interested 01:17 in their health, and I'm very interested in my health, 01:21 but I want to talk about you, first of all, being identical twins. 01:24 Very interesting. Do you ever get mistaken for being one another? 01:27 Have you had that growing up? Did you ever have chances where you could actually, say, 01:33 get away with going to each other's classes for each other or maybe driving on 01:38 each other's driver's licenses or things like that? 01:41 >> None of that. I think that's what people 01:43 like to think, but we never went to each 01:45 other's classes or anything like that, but people do get us 01:48 mixed up. That's for sure, yeah. 01:50 >> Mm-hmm. >> Our teachers would get us 01:52 mixed up all the time. >> Mm-hmm. 01:54 >> We were often in separate classes, 01:57 and, as twins, it's fun, but you have to be mindful 02:00 that people can think that you're the other. 02:02 >> Yes. >> And that can cause some problems. 02:04 Like, if a teacher who -- like, George's teacher walks by me and I don't acknowledge 02:10 that teacher, he might get upset at George, thinking that George is being rude, when, 02:14 in fact, it's just me not knowing who they are. So just things like that... 02:18 >> Right. >> ...makes life interesting as twins. 02:20 >> Right. And so a patient goes to Dr. George Cho, and he sees you, and you 02:25 don't even know this patient. That must be kind of odd. >> That's right. 02:29 When we have health events, sometimes when they attend, there can be mix-ups. 02:35 >> In fact, I had a patient recently at one of the churches, and Daniel had walked by, 02:41 and he didn't see my patient. She was greeting. >> Uh-huh. 02:45 >> And then when I walked by, obviously, I recognized her, and she said, you know, 02:50 "So a doc doesn't say hi to his patients?" And I was like, "Oh. I'm sorry. 02:54 I think you met my brother." So then she laughed, as well, as she realized what was going on. 02:59 >> Yeah, that can be confusing. >> Yeah. >> So you grew up together. 03:02 You were so close together, and you're both pursuing a course of lifestyle medicine. 03:08 >> Yes. >> So tell us a little bit about that. 03:12 >> Well, right now, we run two lifestyle clinics in Toronto, where we focus on 03:18 lifestyle medicine and naturopathic medicine, so we're educating patients 03:22 on how right eating, right nutrition, exercise, sleep -- these health 03:27 behaviors -- can really help them with conditions like type 2 diabetes, weight, 03:34 hypertension, and so forth, so that's what we do right now in the clinic. 03:37 >> Mm-hmm. Mm-hmm. >> And Lifestyle is Medicine is not-for-profit, where, 03:42 outside the clinic setting, we provide our community-based programs that teach people 03:47 about the principles of lifestyle medicine so they can apply in their own 03:50 lives and to prevent and reverse different disease. So, we have different 03:55 community-based programs that involve plant-based eating and education, 03:59 so that's what we do at Lifestyle Is Medicine. >> Mm. 04:03 >> So, not too many health professionals focus on lifestyle medicine, 04:09 so what made you two interested in this whole concept of lifestyle medicine? 04:17 >> Yeah, so, I think it really began with our mother. When we were very young, 04:22 she had some G.I. issues. >> Okay. >> We're not exactly sure 04:27 what it was. >> G.I.? We're talking about your stomach, 04:30 gastrointestinal tract, your gut, right? >> Right. Yeah, there were some 04:34 digestive issues. >> Digestive issue, okay. >> But what happened was 04:37 a man came to our door. He was selling Christian books, and he shared with her some 04:43 very simple health principles on how she can get better, so things like 04:48 plant-based eating. >> Mm-hmm. >> And so she tried that, 04:52 and she actually got better. >> Mm! >> So you see here 04:56 a very simple lifestyle change led to, essentially, a reversal of a health condition, 05:01 which is basically what lifestyle medicine is all about. >> Mm-hmm. 05:04 >> So that's sort of our first experience with the power of lifestyle medicine. 05:07 >> Mm-hmm. So, she got better. How did she change -- 05:13 Like, did that change influence you? >> Well, of course, like any 05:19 mom, if something works for you, you're going to want your kids to -- 05:23 >> Exactly. >> Because we were really young. We were, like, 8 -- 05:26 8 years old, 9 years old. So, our parents -- at the time, they owned a convenience store, 05:31 so we had -- We were not eating good at all. It was, like, 05:36 chocolate bars, chips, junk food almost on demand. >> Okay. 05:40 >> You know, so our diet was pretty much the standard -- American standard diet. 05:44 >> Yes. >> But when she changed to whole foods, plant-based, 05:49 not snacking, she got better. So then she started to implement some of that in the home, 05:53 so then that was kind of our first introduction to a major lifestyle change, 05:57 and we felt we also got better, as well. >> Mm-hmm. 06:01 >> We didn't like it at first, but, growing up, you realize, it does make a difference. 06:06 >> So let's explore that. So eating what you call "junk food," okay -- 06:13 how does that influence your overall health now that you know a whole lot more? 06:16 I mean, you're practicing lifestyle medicine. You're teaching that to others. 06:20 You're helping your patients to get better, as well. So, how does that impact us? 06:27 Can you kind of inform us, give us an education on that? >> Well, if you look 06:31 a the standard American diet or the standard Canadian diet, it's high in processed food, 06:35 high in animal products. >> Okay. >> So, processed foods -- 06:41 they contain a lot of sugar, a lot of additives, as well, that can promote inflammation 06:46 in the body, alright? And they're also very nutrient-deficient, as well. 06:50 >> Okay. >> Right? So you're pretty much eating 06:53 empty calories, in many cases, which leads to weight gain and so forth. 06:56 >> Right. >> When it comes to animal products, 06:58 people often don't realize that it's very high in saturated fats, 07:01 which many people know is not good for you. >> Mm-hmm. 07:04 >> But also, when it comes to red meat and processed meat, which we used to eat a lot of, 07:08 these are also carcinogenic, as well. >> Mm. 07:11 >> So they drive cancer, drive inflammation, and when you drive inflammation in the body, 07:14 you can drive chronic disease. >> Mm. >> So this is the reason why we 07:18 see such an epidemic today of inflammatory conditions like type 2 diabetes, 07:23 hypertension, heart disease. Even Alzheimer's can be linked to inflammation that's happening 07:28 in the body, so -- >> Okay. >> And we had to realize 07:30 that it's the food that we're eating that's driving this inflammation, 07:34 which then leads to chronic disease in the future. >> Okay. So, let's explore 07:38 that idea of inflammation -- inflammation in your body, Why is that 07:43 unhealthy for your body? So, you're eating something. Say you eat a chocolate bar. 07:48 >> Mm-hmm. >> That's creating inflammation in your body. 07:51 What does that do to you? >> Right. That's a really good question. 07:55 So, inflammation is simply your immune system is acting, right? So say if you get a cold, 08:00 you know, you got an infection, so your immune system is going to act 08:03 to deal with the infection. But what happens is -- What's supposed to happen 08:06 is that it's supposed to turn off or kind of tone down. >> Yes. 08:09 >> So it's supposed to act, then kind of tone down, right? So, that's called 08:12 "acute inflammation," and that's normal. That's healthy. 08:15 >> Yes. Okay. >> What happens with chronic diseases is that -- 08:19 It's a process called "subclinical chronic inflammation," 08:23 or "systemic inflammation." So, basically, instead of inflammation -- 08:26 Instead of your immune system turning on and then kind of toning down, 08:29 it's constantly there... >> Mm-hmm. >> ...not a high level, alright? 08:33 So, for instance, if you get hit in the face, you could bruise up. 08:36 That's inflammation. >> That's inflammation. >> Yeah, that's inflammation, 08:39 so it's very clear. You can see it. You can feel it. 08:41 >> Right. >> A fever, as well, right? >> Yes. 08:44 >> But this is subclinical, so you really can't detect it. There could be no overt signs, 08:49 right? You don't get symptoms from subclinical inflammation, 08:53 but it's constantly there. >> Okay. >> So when your 08:56 immune system is not turning -- switching off, then it leads to collateral damage. 09:00 >> Ah, I see. >> Right? So then you start damaging your organs. 09:03 You damage your liver. You damage your pancreas, things like that. 09:07 You damage your -- the blood vessels. >> Mm-hmm. 09:10 >> Right? So this then leads to chronic diseases. 09:15 >> Right. >> So this is why -- And the foods that we eat 09:19 kind of adds fire to the flame, so it's constantly there, but if you switch your nutrition 09:24 to more whole foods and plant-based, then that actually 09:28 fights inflammation. >> Okay. >> So, our Western lifestyle 09:33 right now that's very high in processed food and animal foods is constantly feeding 09:38 that inflammation. But the dangerous thing is that most people 09:41 don't realize it because, again, you don't see symptoms. Only until later on, 09:45 when you hit your 50s, 60s, and so forth, when you start seeing the diseases. 09:50 >> So, you've been dealing with that all along. It's been in your body. 09:53 >> Oh, that's right. People don't realize that the foundation for type 2 diabetes, 09:58 heart disease, and so forth is actually laid quite early in life. 10:02 Yeah. Yeah. So this is why nutrition is very important, yeah -- 10:07 eating healthy. >> So, early in life, we're talking about our children 10:12 and when they are children. So when you were children, your mother made 10:17 that change for you. >> Oh, that's right. Yeah. If we hadn't seen that change, 10:22 we would be in a very different state right now. That's for sure, yeah. 10:26 >> Mm-hmm. Mm-hmm. >> And you mentioned that, at first, you didn't like it. 10:30 Like, you didn't like the change of food because when you eat junk food, 10:37 it tastes good. >> Yeah. And they flavor it and season 10:42 all those processed foods in such a way that it's appealing, and it makes you feel good 10:49 while you're eating it, but, obviously, afterwards, you don't feel the greatest. 10:53 Now your mom introduces this, and it's a big transition, and so you 10:58 mentioned you didn't like it. How long did it take you to become fully plant-based 11:05 or to just -- to have that switch to that lifestyle and to stay with it? 11:11 >> Mm-hmm. >> Yeah. Obviously, it was a process, 11:15 so we became fully plant-based when we were around 16 years old. 11:21 >> Mm-hmm. >> So it was sort of a process, so we first gave up meat, 11:26 like beef, pork, and then, later on, fish. The last to go, I would say, 11:33 was dairy and eggs and cheese. We really liked cheese. >> Mm-hmm. 11:37 >> Mm-hmm. >> And cheese also has some addictive properties, so -- 11:42 So those came later. So, yeah, it was a very long process, but we're happy 11:46 we made the switch. >> Mm-hmm. So it is a difficult transition? 11:50 >> It's a transition. >> Yeah. I remember when Rene and I 11:54 started going vegetarian, we all had meat -- you know, we'd all have a piece 12:00 of chicken on our plate, and then we heard that it was healthier for us. 12:06 We went to Dr. Diehl -- his programs. Do you use Dr. Diehl's programs 12:13 in what you do -- Dr. Hans Diehl? He did the CHIP Program. 12:17 >> His book was very instrumental. >> Mm-hmm. 12:20 >> We got it when we were young through our mom, and... >> Oh, I see. 12:24 >> ...we actually read it as young teens. >> Mm-hmm. 12:28 >> And that really kind of put the science to the -- >> Yeah. And we started seeing 12:32 this was the optimum way to go, but it was, like, "This is really hard." 12:36 And so instead of all of us having a piece of chicken, we would chop up one piece 12:40 of chicken and put it in as kind of a stir-fry, and, eventually, the meat kind 12:45 of fell off our plate. >> Mm-hmm. >> And we just focused 12:48 on the good stuff. >> Yeah. >> And I think most people 12:51 are aware of that, that healthy eating goes in the direction 12:55 of eating plant-based. >> Plant-based, yeah. >> It's much more healthy 12:59 for you. >> But, you know, I think it's important to, I think, recognize 13:03 that I think it's better to start early. So I think, for us, initially, 13:10 it was very annoying, kind of, for us to not be eating this kind of stuff. 13:14 But then I wouldn't say it was very difficult. Like, it was 13:17 quite a smooth transition. >> Mm-hmm. >> So I think for parents that 13:21 are listening, it might be -- I think it's wise to start early with the kids 13:26 because they are going to just eat whatever mom and dad puts on the table, right? 13:31 You're more moldable when you're young, so I think we really credit our mom for doing what 13:37 she did, because if we started later -- like, we're in the early 30s -- I think it would be 13:41 much harder. >> Yes. Yeah. >> And, of course, 13:44 kids might complain, but, ultimately, they kind of get used to it. 13:48 >> They get used to it. Yeah. The earlier you can get them used to it, the better. 13:52 >> She never forced us, either. She never pressured us. >> Uh-huh. 13:55 >> We kind of made the switch ourselves, so... >> Mm-hmm. 13:57 >> That's great. I think the hardest thing for me -- 14:01 We're talking about food now and about, you know, eating healthy food, plant-based. 14:06 I think the hardest transition for me -- and, also, I see with our children -- 14:13 is drinking enough water. >> Mm-hmm. >> I don't think people 14:17 drink enough water, right? >> Yeah. >> Mm-hmm, mm-hmm. 14:19 >> And so what are your thoughts on that? >> Well, the simple test 14:25 that we tell our patients in the clinic is to look at the color of the urine. 14:29 >> Mm-hmm. >> So it should be kind of a pale color. 14:31 If it's, like, bright yellow, you're dehydrated. >> Oh, okay. 14:35 >> I don't think, scientifically, you can say, like, everyone has to drink 14:38 eight glasses or six glasses. It's all individual, and, also, there's water 14:43 in the foods that we eat. So a lot of people actually get hydrated from the foods 14:47 that you consume, right? >> Mm-hmm. >> So I think 14:50 just a a good litmus test is look at your urine color. >> Mm-hmm. 14:53 >> And if it's bright yellow, then, definitely, you probably are dehydrated. 14:57 >> Yeah. >> But if it's pale, then you're probably doing okay. 15:01 >> Mm-hmm, mm-hmm. >> Oh, that's good to know. >> But you're right. 15:04 We definitely need to drink more water. >> Mm-hmm. 15:07 >> Yeah. >> So, all of these things, as I'm seeing it -- they work 15:11 in terms of your circulation. Inflammation will reduce your circulation, right? 15:16 And you were saying inflammation in the system is going to lead to chronic problems 15:21 in the long-term. And so improving our circulation -- 15:26 What else would you recommend for improving a person's circulation? 15:30 >> Well, one of the most important things is exercise... >> Mm-hmm. 15:35 >> ...particularly aerobic exercise, which means exercise that's going to really 15:40 get your heart beating. >> Mm-hmm. >> So that's going to really 15:43 help with circulation, and, right now, the Canadian guidelines recommends 15:49 a minimum of 150 minutes per week of moderate intensity, so that's about 15:54 21 minutes per day. >> Per day. >> And moderate intensity 15:59 would be enough to make you breathe harder and to sweat a little bit. 16:02 >> Mm-hmm. >> And vigorous is, obviously, you're breathing hard, and 16:05 you're sweating a lot, right? So, for instance, a brisk walk would be considered moderate. 16:10 >> Okay. >> So, for our listeners, just getting out there 16:13 for a brisk walk for 21 minutes every day would pretty much help people meet the Canadian 16:19 physical activity guidelines, which is strongly linked with improved health outcomes. 16:23 >> Right. >> So something basic like that is going to be good 16:26 for overall health and improve circulation, like you mentioned. >> Right, right. 16:31 Getting out for a walk. We used to do that with our kids when they were little -- 16:34 just get out and go for a walk. >> That's right. >> And now that they are, 16:37 you know, in their teens, they're used to it, you know? >> That's right, yeah. 16:42 >> They'll -- "Oh, I feel like going for a walk" -- you know, go for a walk. 16:45 >> It's important to point out, though, that this would -- This is not, like, a stroll. 16:49 >> Yes. >> So to meet the guidelines, it would have to be kind of 16:52 a brisk walk... >> Brisk walk, yes. >> ...to at least get 16:54 your heartbeat up a little bit, would be what we're looking at. Of course, any type 16:58 of walking is good, but walking the dog, for us, wouldn't really count, at least 17:03 when it comes to the guidelines. >> Yes, yes. >> But definitely moving more 17:07 and so forth is really important. Plant-based nutrition 17:11 and exercise are the two things that we definitely get almost all of our patients to try 17:15 to do in the clinic, yeah. >> This sounds like we're talking about a NEW person -- 17:19 nutrition, exercise, water. [ Both chuckle ] So, Dr. Cho, what else 17:24 can you do to -- three things -- improve your circulation, reduce inflammation, 17:32 and improve your immune system? >> Mm-hmm. Well, circulation is really 17:36 exercise, but when it comes to inflammation and your immune system, there's other important 17:42 things -- for instance, getting adequate rest. >> Mm-hmm. 17:45 >> So, when we're resting, your body is repairing itself, where there's good evidence 17:49 to suggest that those who are not getting enough sleep -- they have high levels 17:54 of inflammation in the body. In fact, they'd done studies on night-shift workers 17:59 where they've shown that that's actually carcinogenic. >> Wow. 18:02 >> That's actually listed as a carcinogen. Can you believe that? 18:04 >> Wow. Not getting enough sleep? >> Night-shift work. 18:06 >> Night-shift work, yes, yes. >> Like nurses and so forth. >> It can cause you 18:10 to get cancer? >> Yeah, that's actually listed as a carcinogen, so rest 18:13 is very, very important. And there's no exact amount that everyone needs to get. 18:19 >> Right. >> Everyone says eight hours. That's actually not true. 18:22 But we what we tell our patients is when you wake up in the morning, you should feel rested. 18:27 >> Right. >> And throughout the day, you should not be 18:31 all drained and stuff, right? So, it's going to vary for different people, 18:34 but getting enough rest is really good, and, also, napping, as well, is 18:38 actually very helpful, as well. A short nap is okay, so getting adequate rest is very important, 18:44 and, also, getting sunlight, as well, is very important. Here in Canada, 18:48 it's a little bit harder, but getting out there and getting sunshine is very good 18:53 for your mood and also very good for vitamin D levels and so forth. 18:57 So, we'd encourage that. Another important thing is something called "temperance" 19:01 or "self-control"... >> Mm-hmm. >> ...or "moderation." 19:07 So, a lot of people, they say, you know, "We eat everything in moderation," which is false. 19:11 Nobody believes in that, because everyone draws a line somewhere. >> Yes. 19:15 >> Alright? So, for instance, in Korea, people eat, like, dog meat. 19:18 >> Oh. >> I don't think there's any Canadian that would ever 19:20 want to eat that. >> Won't eat that dog meat in moderation. 19:23 >> No, right? So, basically, when people say that, no one actually 19:27 believes that. Everyone draws a line somewhere. >> That's right, yeah. 19:31 >> So what we tell our patients is our definition of moderation is "get rid of all foods that 19:35 are detrimental to health and eat healthy foods in moderation." 19:38 >> Okay. >> Right? So that's what we tell people to do, and so even 19:41 with healthy food, you have to eat that in moderation. >> Right. 19:44 >> So even plant-based foods, you can eat too much of it. >> Right. 19:48 >> It can be indulgent, so that could drive inflammation and so forth, right? 19:54 >> Mm-hmm. >> So we tell people to eat healthy foods in moderation. 19:58 Get rid of all the foods that are very detrimental to your health, 20:01 so practicing that is also very, very important, as well. >> Mm-hmm, mm-hmm. 20:05 This is an education process, you know? We're talking about it now, 20:08 but people have access to more information today through online, through, 20:15 you know, various sources where they can learn and educate themselves. 20:19 So there's no one magic bullet that's going to eliminate all of these health problems. 20:25 It is really multifactorial, right? >> Yeah, it's a combination 20:29 of all these factors that come together, yeah. >> Right, right. 20:32 >> So, these are principles and habits that can have a profound impact 20:37 on our lives and change us, and they're very simple, like drinking water, 20:42 getting enough rest, you know, getting -- eating plant-based foods, 20:47 and so it's very simple. >> Mm-hmm. >> Yeah. That's what's amazing 20:51 about lifestyle medicine. Like, lifestyle medicine is about how these very simple 20:54 lifestyle changes can not only help prevent disease but also treat and reverse. 21:00 >> Wow. >> So everyone knows that these things are good 21:02 for you, like, exercising and eating more plant-based, but these things can actually be 21:06 used as a treatment modality to reverse many of our leading chronic diseases, 21:12 such as diabetes, heart disease, et cetera. >> Wow. 21:15 >> So it's a different way of thinking about it because when people think 21:17 of medicine, they think pills, tablets, injections, surgeries, and lab tests. 21:22 >> Yes. >> And that's what medicine is, but we're saying when you 21:25 eat well, that's medicine. When you're going for a run, that's medicine. 21:28 When you're sleeping well, that's medicinal. >> Wow. 21:31 >> So you're adding these lifestyle behaviors along with pills and tablets, 21:36 injections, surgeries, and lab tests as medicine. >> So you're putting it more 21:42 into the hands of the individual, that they are responsible 21:45 for their own health. >> That's right. >> Lifestyle medicine empowers 21:48 the patient and people to really see that they can take charge of their own health. 21:53 >> Right. >> And so that's another thing that's really great 21:55 about lifestyle medicine. >> How does that connect with your spiritual health, 22:00 your own personal spiritual journey? >> Mm-hmm. 22:03 I'm glad you brought that up because I think a very important aspect of health 22:07 is also the spiritual component because we are spiritual beings. >> Yes. 22:12 >> So when our mother -- when she discovered health, the individual that shared these 22:19 health principles with her, they also -- She shared about God and spirituality and 22:25 introduced us to the Seventh-Day Adventist church. >> Mm-hmm. 22:29 >> So that also started us on a personal spiritual journey of getting to know God better, 22:34 getting to read the Bible more, and -- Yeah, yeah. >> Mm-hmm. 22:38 So you started by reading the Bible. You were young. 22:43 Your mother -- how did she share that with you? I just want to explore 22:47 that a little bit. >> She introduced us to books like -- 22:53 Of course, since we were young, it was, like, children's books. >> Uh-huh. 22:57 >> So we got familiar with the Bible stories that helped us get to know 23:01 the Bible a little bit more. Then we moved on to listening to sermons 23:08 by individuals like Doug Batchelor and so forth. And so we would watch 23:13 his evangelistic meetings while eating dinner. So we'd watch him on rerun. 23:19 We'd watch it over and over again, and -- >> These are all VHS. 23:23 >> VHS, yes. >> Video. >> Yeah. 23:25 We'd sit there watching as we're eating dinner. >> And people can watch 23:28 those online now. >> That's right, yes. >> "Amazing Facts." 23:31 >> "Amazing Facts." Okay. >> So that really introduced us to the Christian faith in 23:37 greater detail and also the Seventh-Day Adventist message, as well. 23:42 So then we became Seventh-Day Adventists at the age of 15 or 16. 23:48 >> Mm-hmm. So, God really cares about our health, 23:53 and we're going to listen to a song called "Does Jesus Care?" And really important words, 24:01 so let's listen to that together right now. 24:06 [ "Does Jesus Really Care?" plays ] 24:30 >> ♪ Does Jesus care ♪ When my heart is pained ♪ Too deeply for mirth 24:39 or song? ♪ ♪ When the burdens press ♪ And the cares distress 24:48 ♪ And the way grows weary and long? ♪ 25:02 >> ♪ Does Jesus care ♪ When my way is dark ♪ With a nameless dread 25:12 or fear? ♪ ♪ As the daylight fades ♪ Into deep night shades 25:21 ♪ Does He care enough to be near? ♪ >> ♪ Oh, yes, He cares 25:30 ♪ I know He cares ♪ His heart is touched with my grief ♪ 25:39 ♪ When the days are weary ♪ The long nights dreary ♪ I know my Savior cares 26:03 >> ♪ Does Jesus care ♪ When I've tried and failed ♪ To resist some temptation 26:13 strong? ♪ >> ♪ When in my deep grief ♪ I find no relief 26:21 ♪ Though my tears flow all the night long? ♪ >> ♪ Does Jesus care 26:31 ♪ When I've said goodbye ♪ To the dearest on Earth to me? ♪ 26:39 >> ♪ And my sad heart aches ♪ Till it nearly breaks ♪ Is it aught to Him? 26:48 ♪ Does He see? >> ♪ Oh, yes, He cares >> ♪ Yes, He cares 26:55 >> ♪ I know He cares ♪ His heart is touched with my grief ♪ 27:04 ♪ When the days are weary ♪ The long night dreary ♪ I know my Savior cares 27:43 [ Song ends ] 27:45 >> Oh, yes, Jesus does care. He cares about our health, 27:48 as well. One of the big problems 27:49 is diabetes, and we would like to help you with that. 27:53 >> So our offer for today is called "Diabetes Undone," 27:57 and if you would like to receive it, 27:59 please just look at the information on the screen below. 28:03 >> So, George and Daniel, thank you very much for joining us. 28:06 Let's close with a word of prayer, and I ask you, Daniel, to pray for us. 28:10 >> Sure, let's pray. Eternal Father, we thank You so much 28:15 that You care about our health and You've shared with us how we can be healthier. 28:20 I pray that each one of us, and our listeners, that we can live a healthier life, 28:24 that we can serve and honor You better. We pray in Jesus' name. Amen. 28:30 >> Amen. >> So, friends, the words of Jesus really 28:33 give us encouragement as He says, "It is written, 'Man shall not live 28:37 by bread alone but by every word that proceeds out of the mouth of God.'" 28:44 ♪♪ ♪♪ |
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