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01:40 ♪[Theme music]♪ 01:49 >>John Bradshaw: This is It Is Written. I'm John Bradshaw. 01:52 Thanks for joining me. 01:54 Go to the Bible and you find that the Word of God 01:56 says a lot about worship, 01:58 unsurprisingly, as the Bible is God's book. 02:02 But look in the book of Psalms and you find God appealing to us 02:05 and saying some, some impressive things. 02:08 Look with me at Psalm 96 and verse 9: 02:11 “O worship the Lord in the beauty of holiness: 02:14 fear before Him, all the earth.” 02:17 And in Psalm 95 and verse 6, the Bible says, 02:19 “O come, let us worship and bow down: 02:22 let us kneel before the Lord our Maker.” 02:25 And so you might think, 02:26 well, yes, of course, 02:28 worship it's the underpinning of our relationship with God. 02:30 It speaks of the way we relate to God as Sovereign, 02:33 as Creator, as Majesty. 02:36 But let's go a little bit further. 02:38 Is worship good for you? 02:40 How does the practice of worship actually affect your life? 02:45 Here to discuss with me the physiology of worship 02:48 is cardiologist Dr. James Marcum, 02:50 who practices with the Chattanooga Heart Institute. 02:53 Dr. Marcum, thanks for joining me. 02:54 >>Dr. Marcum: My pleasure, John. 02:56 And this excites me more than anything else, 02:58 because when a patient comes in 03:00 and has a lot of medical problems, 03:03 sometimes they're on lots of pills. 03:05 And these pills have side effects, 03:07 and they cost money. 03:08 But when you start talking about things that they can do 03:11 to help improve their body, 03:12 both short term and for eternity, 03:16 and you bring up worship, they, 03:18 they sort of shake their heads at first. 03:20 They say, “No, how can that help me?” 03:21 >>John: So, so that's the question. 03:23 How can worship, you're saying, actually benefit your health? 03:27 >>Dr. Marcum: Yes, worship is actually a prescription. 03:31 And I have to show the evidence behind it, 03:33 and they have to start doing it. 03:35 But now we have studies that others have done, 03:38 even our ministries working on studies that show 03:40 how people that worship the true God 03:42 have physiologic benefits on our own genetics. 03:46 >>John: So how does that work? 03:47 What you're saying is, this is a pretty big statement, 03:51 that worship affects one's genes. 03:55 >>Dr. Marcum: Yes. That's what we're saying. 03:56 >>John: You're saying that. 03:57 >>Dr. Marcum: And if you go back a few years ago, 03:58 we haven't always been able to say this. 04:00 We didn't have the technology. 04:03 But a few years ago, um, Francis Collins, 04:05 who's now at the National Institute of Health, 04:08 he sequenced our DNA. 04:10 >>John: Sure. 04:11 >>Dr. Marcum: Now, what that means is he looked at the DNA, 04:12 and he wrote a book called “The Language of God.” 04:16 He thought this DNA was the language of God, 04:18 because this is how we express ourselves. 04:21 Um, this is how we turn things on and off. 04:23 And if you think of the DNA like a hardware of a computer, 04:28 you know, this is what we're born with. 04:30 And unfortunately, each one of us, me included, 04:33 is born with bad genes. 04:34 >>John: Sure. 04:35 >>Dr. Marcum: We have bad genes. 04:36 And these have been passed down. 04:37 And sooner or later, different things that we do to these genes 04:41 causes them to malfunction or mutate. 04:44 In fact, we have telomeres that sometimes get shorter, 04:47 and they damage our DNA. 04:48 When our DNA is damaged, guess what happens. 04:52 A mutation happens. 04:53 Then we have a malfunction. 04:55 And sooner or later, if enough of these happen, 04:57 we have a symptom. 04:59 And modern medicine reaches to treat the symptoms, 05:02 and we do that very effectively sometimes, 05:04 but we don't get at the cause of our bad genes. 05:07 >>John: So explain to me, explain to us, what's in DNA? 05:13 Deoxyribonucleic acid. 05:15 We know that. 05:16 But what is it, and how does your DNA 05:18 express itself or affect one's day-to-day life? 05:21 >>Dr. Marcum: Yeah. 05:22 >>John: I know many people are saying, 05:23 “I know that already, John.” But for those who don't. 05:25 >>Dr. Marcum: Well, this is the core of who we are. 05:28 It's our template. 05:29 It decides everything. 05:30 For instance, when we're talking here, 05:32 the DNA is actually making proteins, 05:35 messenger RNA, 05:36 different things that is affecting enzyme systems, 05:39 that's affecting the way you think, 05:40 the way you move, what makes your heart beating. 05:42 The DNA is at the core of everything. 05:45 So when something malfunctions 05:47 at the very core molecular basis, we look at DNA. 05:51 >>John: So tell me now. 05:52 Somebody has a malfunction at the DNA level, 05:55 how might that be expressed? 05:56 >>Dr. Marcum: Well, it's according. 05:57 Some people are born with bad genes, 06:00 and we have, um, genetic diseases. 06:02 Um, and we see that quite a bit, you know, 06:04 um Tay-Sachs disease and different disease 06:06 that's passed down from generation to generations. 06:09 Those are genes that have been affected that we can't 06:12 do anything about. 06:13 Now, sometimes gene mutations 06:15 are because of the different things we do. 06:17 Let's say you smoke a lot and you have a genetic defect 06:21 that predisposes you to cancer, and you smoke. 06:24 Well, that puts stress on those genes, 06:25 and those genes might malfunction sooner. 06:28 >>John: And the result might be cancer, 06:30 lung cancer. 06:31 >>Dr. Marcum: That's correct. 06:32 For instance, let's say everyone in the Bradshaw family 06:35 became hard of hearing at age 60. Ok. 06:38 >>John: What was that? 06:39 >>Dr. Marcum: Uh, yeah [laughs]. 06:40 Became hard of hearing at age 60. 06:42 And I yelled in your ear every single day. 06:44 I'm yelling and screaming in your ear every day. 06:47 Well, that puts stress on those genes, 06:49 which is the stress of the epigenetics, 06:51 the things that influences your hardware, 06:53 the software, and those genes might wear out sooner. 06:57 So you might have problems at a younger age 06:59 because we put stress on those genes. 07:02 Well, that can happen anywhere in our body. 07:05 If we have a genetic defect, we all do, 07:07 and we put stress on those genes, 07:09 whether it be from smoking or not sleeping well, 07:12 or yelling, or whatever, those genes might malfunction earlier, 07:16 and guess what. 07:17 We have a mutation, it leads to aging and disease processes. 07:21 Because these genes tell our bodies what to do. 07:24 Everything that we do is influenced by these genes. 07:27 >>John: So we can understand the genetic code, our DNA, 07:30 as a little bit like the program that makes the computer run, 07:33 and we all know if you get a glitch in the program, 07:35 then it's just not gonna work, 07:38 and eventually things crash. 07:40 >>Dr. Marcum: Exactly. 07:41 >>John: So it's like that. 07:42 >>Dr. Marcum: That's exactly right. 07:43 >>John: So we can, what? 07:45 >>Dr. Marcum: Influence. 07:46 >>John: We can influence, we can influence? 07:47 >>Dr. Marcum: We can influence our hardware 07:49 by these software, these things that we do. 07:52 >>John: Okay. 07:53 >>Dr. Marcum: Um, for instance, if you, 07:54 if you don't smoke, 07:55 that helps those genes that might have cancer in them. 07:58 >>John: Okay. 07:59 >>Dr. Marcum: Um, if we do other things that might keep 08:00 the genes from getting older quicker. 08:02 And that might be good nutrition, 08:04 or even drinking water, or getting enough rest. 08:06 Well, we're now understanding that worship 08:09 affects epigenetics, what affects our genes. 08:12 Keeps us from getting older. 08:14 There's now some data on this that shows that worship, 08:17 when we worship God, 08:19 when we worship the best we can, 08:20 that affects our genes. 08:22 And when we don't worship, that tends, 08:25 can put stress on our body. 08:27 You know, we look for something to worship. 08:29 If we worship the wrong things, it puts stress on us as well. 08:32 >>John: So, so we have a genetic makeup. 08:35 >>Dr. Marcum: Um-hmm. 08:36 >>John: It might be that your genes are gonna flip out 08:38 in this way, that way, malfunction, mutate. 08:40 However, there are things that you can do to aid your genes, 08:46 the genetic code, 08:47 to prevent certain things from happening that are negative, 08:51 or the cause positive things to happen that are positive. 08:53 So you can influence your own health 08:56 at the very deepest level. 08:58 And what you're saying is that worship actually has 09:02 a measurable, material impact on one's genes. 09:06 >>John: That's correct. 09:07 And we're just now beginning, 09:08 in some of the science that's been done, to look at this. 09:11 One of the original studies by Dr. Newberg 09:14 at the University of Pennsylvania, 09:16 he looked at people's brains, 09:18 and he had people just worship for a short period of time, 09:21 and he saw that their brain, the prefrontal cortex, 09:24 the part that we have that separates us from animals, 09:27 actually got bigger. 09:28 The anterior cingulate cortex part of the brain 09:31 grew and got bigger just from worship. 09:33 And he also found out that when people worship 09:36 for short periods of time, the stress part of the brain, 09:39 the part we share with animals, the part that damages us, 09:42 you know, we don't like these chronic stress, 09:44 the part that just says, I want to stay alive and live, 09:46 that turns on the chemicals like adrenaline, 09:49 cortisol, inflammation that causes these epigenetic problems 09:53 that causes us to age and the DNA to get worse, 09:56 those were turned down in people that worship. 09:59 So he did that study, but studies have been, 10:01 even done further says, well, that's, 10:04 we see a structural change, 10:05 but what's happening in the molecules, the very DNA. 10:09 And now we have some studies, you know, 10:11 back at [Dusek], at Harvard, Benson's Lab, 10:14 they looked at different things that people do to relax, 10:17 and people that relax, repetitive prayer. 10:20 They've looked at people with yoga, 10:22 those type of things, including worship. 10:25 Those things turn on and off genes. 10:28 And when those genes, the stress genes are turned off, 10:31 people do better. 10:32 They, if you think about it, when stresses turn off, 10:35 every chronic disease will improve. 10:37 Slows down aging, slows down inflammation, 10:40 lowers blood pressure, improves immune systems. 10:43 So now, what I'm trying to, to do right now is, 10:47 well, they've looked at different types of worship. 10:49 You know, there's many different types of worship. 10:51 There's yoga, there's medication, 10:53 there's repetitive prayer, 10:54 there's different types of worship. 10:56 Well, what would these genes look like 10:58 if we do biblical worship. 11:00 Ten minutes of biblical worship. 11:02 Let's look at the genes. 11:03 And wouldn't it be great, 11:04 we're working on publishing a study that says 11:06 when someone participates in biblical worship, 11:09 this lowers the risk of chronic disease, 11:11 slows down aging, lowers the risk of heart attack, 11:14 infections, diabetes, hypertension, 11:16 all of these things. 11:17 Well, we have the preliminary workup that says 11:20 we know what the answer's gonna to be. 11:21 Now we have to do the study. 11:23 >>John: Fascinating. 11:24 Worship, good for you. 11:26 Worship, good for your genes. 11:29 Worship, able to influence your health 11:31 in a measurable and material way. 11:33 You want to know more about this. 11:34 We'll be back with more in just a moment. 11:36 ♪[Music]♪ 11:46 >>Announcer: Your time is valuable. 11:48 But did you know that time with God 11:49 is the most valuable item that you have? 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Box 6, Chattanooga, TN 37401, 12:39 or you can visit our website, iiwoffer.com, 12:42 to download a free copy today. 12:47 >>John: Thanks for joining me today on It Is Written, 12:49 where my special guest is Dr. James Marcum, 12:51 a cardiologist and the leader of Heartwise Ministries, 12:55 committed to helping you and me both 12:58 see the great connection there is between our physical 13:00 and our mental health and how we can live life 13:03 to the very fullest. 13:05 In Revelation, chapter 14, 13:07 you read about three angels flying in the midst of heaven, 13:11 with messages for everybody on planet Earth. 13:15 And the first angel says, 13:17 “Fear God, and give glory to Him; 13:19 for the hour of His judgment is come: 13:22 and worship Him that made heaven, and earth, 13:25 and the sea, and the fountains of waters.” 13:27 There is a call to worship in the final gospel message 13:30 that goes to the world. 13:32 Now, Dr. Marcum, we're talking about how worship 13:35 is actually good for a person. 13:36 Here's my question for you: 13:38 You might even mention relaxation and other things 13:42 that researchers have found positively impact your health. 13:45 So, is the worship of God just the Christian spin on this, 13:49 or is there something different and unique about worshipping God 13:53 over even these other things you might say: 13:55 relaxation, breathing exercises, and so forth? 13:58 What's unique about the worship of God? 14:01 >>Dr. Marcum: That is an excellent question. 14:02 That's why we need more research on this specifically. 14:06 You know, ‘cause we know what the results are going to be. 14:09 We know that as we worship the true God, 14:12 biblical worship, um, 14:13 we are going to have more positive changes 14:16 than we would doing anything else. 14:18 Okay? 14:19 The other studies have shown all sorts of things that imply this, 14:22 but now we really have to have the biblical worship study 14:25 looking at people's DNA directly. 14:28 Um, we have some indirect studies by Newberg, 14:31 so as our brain gets larger when we worship God. 14:35 But he decided what worship looked like. 14:37 But that's a great question. 14:39 What does worship look like in this end stage? 14:42 You know, what does worship look like? 14:44 Some people might worship by studying the Word, 14:47 by praying. 14:48 Some people might worship by serving others, 14:51 by praising, by thanking. 14:53 There's many ways of worship, 14:55 including living a life of worship. 14:57 So, but now we have the technology, 14:59 John, to do these studies to show, 15:02 you know, well, 15:03 worship for you might look like this on your DNA. 15:06 But worship like this might help your DNA even more. 15:10 You know, when you serve, you get this type of benefit, 15:12 health benefit. 15:13 But when you serve, pray and study the Word, 15:17 you might get this type of benefit. 15:19 We're now starting to have the technology to show 15:22 those type of physiologic changes. 15:23 >>John: So worship is measurably good for a person, 15:26 which means that those who do not live a life of worship, 15:29 people who are choosing to live disconnected from God, 15:32 are missing out not only spiritually, 15:34 but physically, and therefore spiritually as well, 15:38 as one impacts the other. 15:39 So a patient comes to you, and you suggest to the patient, 15:42 okay, we're going to walk down this road. 15:45 How would look in practice in a person's life? 15:47 They come to your practice; they speak to you; you maybe, 15:50 the conversation takes on this bent. 15:53 How does that play out in someone's life? 15:54 >>Dr. Marcum: Well, you know, I would, 15:56 I would start by giving them evidence. 15:58 I said, “Listen, you know, you don't feel so good. 16:00 You had a bypass surgery, you know. 16:02 Things were bad. 16:03 But you've done all of these things.” 16:05 But they always say, 16:06 “Well, you know, I have a hard time giving up this.” 16:10 >>John: Sure. 16:11 >>Dr. Marcum: You know, “I have a hard time walking every day. 16:12 I have a hard time eating right. 16:13 I have a hard time thinking right. 16:14 All these stressors that are turning on these bad genes, 16:18 I'm having problems with.” 16:19 I said, “Well, you know, 16:21 I have problems with that myself, you know. 16:23 Would you like to, to hear about a way scientifically proven 16:27 that we can help our genes and help give us the power, 16:30 one step at a time, to, to do better?” 16:33 I said, “Well,” I said, “ask Christ to come into your life. 16:37 Ask Him to give you the power.” 16:38 And I point them back to Matthew 11:28, 16:41 “Come unto me, worship me, and I will give you rest.” 16:46 Would you like that gift today? 16:48 Is there any reason you can't enter into 16:50 a relationship worship? 16:51 Because that's how our genes were designed to be. 16:54 >>John: Um-hmm. 16:55 >>Dr. Marcum: And as we get back to our original template, 16:57 everything works better. 16:58 Aging slows down. 17:00 It also, but more importantly, 17:02 it gives us the power to make these changes. 17:04 And I give them examples of patients, 17:06 and I said, “Listen, we're working on studies 17:08 to prove this at higher levels. 17:09 But why don't you just ask Christ into your life today, 17:12 give you the power to do one thing. 17:14 What would that be? 17:16 And come into a worshipful state.” 17:17 And I give them a short prayer and a short worship study. 17:20 If they've never worked before, I said, 17:22 “Here's 10 minutes of what worship looks like. 17:24 Would you be willing to do that every day?” 17:27 And so, “Oh, yeah, I'll give that a try.” 17:28 And I said, “In addition, let's pick one thing that's stressing 17:32 your life out, that's hurting your genes, 17:34 that we can make a change on.” 17:36 And it might be something simple like drinking water, 17:39 or resting, or not losing your temper. 17:41 Or it might be eating better or giving up cigarettes. 17:44 Just one thing. 17:45 And when they do this, when they actually have that power, 17:49 God enters their life, 17:50 so when they're in this state of worship, 17:52 the Holy Spirit comes and is working on this. 17:54 Goes into the hippocampus part of the brain. 17:56 So it's working all day long in them. 17:58 So they have to decide what they want to do with this worship. 18:01 So this worship starts in the morning, 18:03 and it goes all day long, 18:04 so it's sort of living in a state of worship. 18:07 And then they start giving power, and they notice, 18:09 “You know what? 18:10 I did, I was able to do this.” 18:12 And then they feel God coming 18:13 into their life, leading them more and more. 18:15 And as they do this, they get very excited. 18:17 And then we move to the next thing. 18:19 Well, would you like to do this? 18:20 Would you like to do that? 18:21 And they start making these powerful changes. 18:23 And as God influences their life, 18:25 gives them the power to make changes, 18:27 they're doing things out of love and not out of obligation. 18:30 They're doing things for the right reasons. 18:32 >>John: You know, it's, I think it's important for us 18:34 to point this out: 18:35 we're not suggesting, if you're sick, 18:37 just worship God and you'll get well. 18:39 This isn't the new wonder drug, the wonder drug of worship. 18:41 But what you're saying is when the heart, 18:44 the mind, is focused on God and connected to God, 18:47 this measurably benefits a person. 18:49 Can people achieve the same physiological results 18:55 without God? 18:56 I'll just relax. 18:58 I shall take walks on the beach. 19:01 Clearly those... 19:02 >>Dr. Marcum: Yes, yes, yes. 19:02 >>John: ...things are good for you, 19:04 but can you, can you say, I like this thought, 19:07 it sure makes sense. 19:08 I get my mind in a good place. 19:11 I prevent these stressors from really getting at me. 19:15 So instead of worship, 19:17 I'll do an end run around this by doing A, B, C and D. 19:20 >>Dr. Marcum: Yes. 19:21 >>John: Possible, or not possible? 19:22 >>Dr. Marcum: To some degree, 19:23 that might help you in the short term. 19:25 >>John: Sure. 19:27 >>Dr. Marcum: Might help you in the short term. 19:28 But remember, we all have bad genes. 19:31 We all need a Savior, ultimately. 19:34 So I explain to them, 19:35 those things might help in the short term, 19:36 but are they an ultimate solution to our chronic disease? 19:41 No. 19:42 >>John: Worship. 19:43 Good for you. 19:43 Good for your body. 19:44 Good for your mind. 19:45 Worship affecting you on a genetic level. 19:49 See, there's a reason Mom and Dad took you to church, 19:51 encouraged you to pray, introduced you to God. 19:54 Another reason, and that is that faith in God, 19:58 worshiping God, a relationship with God, 20:01 affects you in ways that you might 20:04 not have even thought possible. 20:05 Now, in just a moment, 20:07 a case study of someone who put this to practice in his life, 20:10 and the benefits were just fantastic. 20:13 More in just a moment. 20:14 ♪[Music]♪ 20:24 >>Announcer: Your time is valuable. 20:25 But did you know that time with God 20:27 is the most valuable item that you have? 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Box 6, Chattanooga, TN 37401, 20:48 or by visiting our website, iiwoffer.com. 20:56 >>Announcer: Planning for your financial future 20:58 is a vital aspect of Christian stewardship. 21:02 For this reason, It Is Written is pleased to offer 21:05 free planned giving and estate services. 21:07 For information on how we can help you, 21:10 please call 800-992-2219. 21:15 Call today, or visit our website, 21:17 hislegacy.com. 21:19 Call 800-992-2219. 21:25 >>John: Thanks for joining me today on It Is Written. 21:27 I'm John Bradshaw. 21:28 My guest is cardiologist Dr. James Marcum, 21:31 who practices in Chattanooga, Tennessee 21:33 and leads Heartwise Ministries. 21:36 Dr. Marcum, we're talking about something fascinating. 21:39 I think, I think huge for people 21:42 who've never contemplated this, 21:43 and that is that worship measurably, 21:45 materially affects somebody for the good on a genetic level. 21:49 Now, here's my question: 21:50 Grandma worshipped God all her life, 21:53 fervently and faithfully, and died at 53 of cancer. 21:57 Somebody's uncle worshiped God, served God, 22:00 missionary, minister, whatever it might be, 22:02 and loved God, died young from a lifestyle disease. 22:05 So, put those two thoughts together. 22:07 Worship's good for you, but people who worship die young. 22:11 Why? 22:12 >>Dr. Marcum: Yeah. 22:13 And we alluded to this earlier. 22:15 We all come to the plate with bad genes. 22:18 We have bad genes. 22:20 We have, from head to toe, we have bad genes. 22:22 The way we think, the way we metabolize, 22:25 is determined a lot by our ancestors. 22:27 And we have no control over our hardware. 22:30 It's there in us. 22:32 And for people that have these, these issues, 22:36 what I tell them is, you know, look, 22:37 look at the New Testament. 22:39 You know, Christ healed 24, 25 people. 22:41 Sometimes people He raised from the dead. 22:43 He healed them. 22:45 And yet they all died. 22:47 >>John: Sure. 22:47 >>Dr. Marcum: They all died. 22:49 So, but, He, sometimes He walked by people that needed healing, 22:53 because He wanted to preach the gospel. 22:56 He wanted to come into their heart through worship. 22:59 Because there was something even more that transcended 23:01 our bad genetics, when we do that. 23:04 And I tell people, it's not only about today. 23:06 It's about forever. 23:08 >>John: So we wouldn't suggest anybody... 23:10 >>Dr. Marcum: No. 23:11 >>John: I think we spoke about this earlier, 23:12 but I do need to just, reiterate. 23:15 No one is suggesting, if you're unwell, 23:18 worship and you'll miraculously be well. 23:20 Though that may happen. 23:22 But I believe what science is now telling us, 23:24 Dr. Marcum, is no matter what your state, 23:27 worship and you'll do better. 23:28 >>Dr. Marcum: Yes. 23:29 >>John: And sometimes dramatically better. 23:32 Now, can you share with me any case studies, 23:34 somebody you know implemented this into his or her life, 23:37 and now we've got something to demonstrate, 23:40 this really positively affects you? 23:42 >>Dr. Marcum: I had a patient that came to me 23:43 from Wall Street. 23:45 He was in his forties. 23:46 He had significant coronary disease, 23:48 already had a bypass surgery. 23:51 All of the arteries were too small to do anything more. 23:55 Every time he would walk, in his forties, 23:56 he would have chest tightness. 23:58 >>John: This is not good. 23:59 >>Dr. Marcum: No, and he'd gone to all the specialists, 24:01 and he was on all the right medicines, 24:03 all the right pills. 24:04 But he was still having symptoms. 24:05 So he came, and we went through this discussion, 24:08 and he says, “You know, I work on Wall Street. 24:10 I don't think I can rest more. 24:11 I don't think I can eat better. 24:13 I don't think I can do any of this better.” 24:15 And I said, “Well, John,” I'm using a pseudo name. 24:19 >>John: Sure. 24:20 >>Dr. Marcum: I said, I said, 24:21 “Listen, our, have you heard of worship?” 24:23 He said, “No, I haven't heard of that.” 24:24 I said, “Do you believe in God?” 24:26 He said, “I don't believe in God.” 24:28 I said, “Well, let me introduce a new concept to you. 24:31 Let me give you some information. 24:33 You know, go looking for Him, and see if, 24:34 see if you can, can find Him. 24:36 He'll hunt for you. 24:38 There's science, evidence, that there is God. It's not.” 24:41 So I gave him some information. 24:43 He started reading and studying. 24:44 And he started worshiping. 24:46 I said, “Well, listen, let's just pick one thing, 24:48 and let's just worship for 10 minutes a day. 24:51 Let's start there.” 24:52 And he started there. 24:53 He wasn't with a denomination, but he came to the God. 24:55 He asked Lord to be Lord of his life, 24:57 Savior, to come into his heart, to teach him. 25:00 He started reading the Bible text, 25:02 and God started moving in him. 25:04 And all of a sudden He gave him power to do things. 25:06 And he was working to midnight every night. 25:09 Well, he realized he couldn't do this every day. 25:11 So he started quitting work earlier. 25:13 God gave him the power to do that. 25:16 All of a sudden, he was able to walk a little bit more. 25:18 He learned about eating better, and guess what? 25:21 He started eating more plants 25:23 and less of some of the bad foods. 25:24 He was able to give up cigarettes. 25:27 And God kept changing his heart 25:28 one step at a time as he worshiped with Him. 25:31 So not only was the worship helping his, 25:34 some of his epigenetics, slowing down the aging, 25:36 those stress genes, 25:37 but the worship was also helping him give power 25:40 to overcome other things that was affecting his genes. 25:43 And he knew that he had bad genes to begin with, 25:46 and sooner or later he was going to wear out, 25:48 but he didn't want to wear out so soon. 25:50 >>John: Right. 25:51 >>Dr. Marcum: So by worship, 25:52 not only he accomplished something short term, 25:54 but he also was accomplishing stuff eternally. 25:57 And when he realized that healing 25:59 was more than just the life he lives now, 26:01 it involved forever, 26:03 a forever relationship with his Creator, 26:05 when these doors started opening up, 26:07 he saw the importance. 26:08 Now, he's doing very well. 26:10 He was able in the office not too long ago. 26:12 He's now walking about a mile and a half a day. 26:14 >>John: Fantastic. 26:15 >>Dr. Marcum: In fact, he has changed so much in his life 26:17 now that he's giving up Wall Street, 26:19 and he's going to buy a farm in Montana and live there. 26:23 So God can change us, when we look to Him. 26:26 Our God is powerful. 26:28 And even if we have genetic disease 26:30 that sort of limits our lifespan, 26:32 there's more to it, 26:34 both in the short term and in the long term. 26:36 God has a plan. 26:37 >>John: So there, we have this genetic makeup. 26:40 There are things that we can do to start up bad processes 26:45 in our genes, and things that we can do to stop 26:48 bad processes and to start good processes in our genes. 26:52 Our genes are affected strongly by our actions. 26:55 And worship is one of 26:57 those things that positively affects us at a genetic level. 27:03 ♪[Music]♪ 27:12 >>Announcer: Your time is valuable. 27:14 But did you know that time with God 27:16 is the most valuable item that you have? 27:18 Today we would love to share with you 27:20 how you can get the most out of the time spent with God. 27:23 Call or write, and we will send you 27:24 “Quality Time” 27:25 completely free of charge. 27:27 Our number is 800-253-3000. 27:30 In addition to “Quality Time,” 27:32 we would love for you to receive “The Ultimate Prescription.” 27:35 In his book, 27:36 Dr. Marcum explains what is wrong 27:37 with our current healthcare system, 27:39 how to get back on track, 27:40 and how you can take care of the spiritual dimension 27:43 of your health. 27:44 For a suggested donation of $15 or more, 27:47 we will send you 27:48 “The Ultimate Prescription” by Dr. James L. 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