Participants: John Bradshaw
Series Code: IIW
Program Code: IIW001446A
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00:10 [male narrator] It has stood 00:12 the test of time, God's book, the Bible. 00:21 Still relevant in today's complex world. 00:26 It Is Written. Sharing hope around the globe. 00:36 [music rings out] 00:41 This is It Is Written. 00:42 I'm John Bradshaw. Thanks for joining me today. 00:45 My guest today is Dr. Neil Nedley, 00:47 the president of Nedley Health Solutions. 00:49 Dr. Nedley, thanks for joining me today. 00:51 Neil Nedley: Thank you. Great to be here. 00:53 JB: We've spoken a number of times on this program. 00:55 It's always a blessing to have you here. 00:57 I'm grateful that you're willing to take heavy topics head on, 01:02 and tell us not maybe what we always want to hear, 01:05 but certainly according to the Bible and good science, 01:08 what we need to hear. NN: Yes. 01:10 JB: And today we're going to visit the subject of cancer. 01:14 And here's why. Um, our health, 01:18 our physical health, our emotional health, 01:22 our mental health, is all very important in and of itself. 01:27 But also very important as it relates to our spiritual health. 01:32 NN: Um-hum. JB: There's that old saying, 01:33 healthy body, healthy mind. Well, truth be told, when it 01:36 comes to our relationship with God, there's a whole lot of 01:38 truth in that. What's our immune system? 01:42 How does it work? NN: Our immune system is there 01:44 to detect foreign invaders that are harmful to us. 01:49 Or to detect abnormal cells that, uh, are not really our own 01:55 good cells and to destroy them. JB: Now, cancer cells are those 02:00 abnormal cells. Why doesn't our immune system 02:01 just see them and [snap] take them out? 02:04 NN: Well, uh, often because they look pretty similar 02:07 to the original. JB: You mean you're saying that 02:08 the immune system sometimes just doesn't recognize cancer cells? 02:11 NN: That's right. Exactly. 02:13 And so it will leave it alone thinking that it's actually a 02:16 normal cell. JB: Okay. 02:17 Now, are all immune systems created, well, I suppose they're 02:20 created equal, but to you and I, or me and the guy next door, 02:24 do we have essentially the same immune system or is one up 02:27 and one down? NN: No, one can be up and one 02:29 can be down in accordance with our lifestyle. 02:32 So, what we're putting into our bodies, what we're doing with 02:34 our bodies, is either enhancing our immune system or actually 02:38 making it less effective. JB: Well, we want to have a more 02:41 effective immune system. NN: Correct. 02:43 JB: How can we have that? NN: Well, uh, by paying 02:46 attention to what we're putting into our body. 02:48 JB: Okay. Food, drink. 02:49 NN: Food, drink, yes. And even important vitamins like 02:53 vitamin D. Uh, and A, C and E. 02:57 And, uh, and those sorts of things. 02:59 JB: Share with me what science says makes for a good immune 03:04 system? List, list off some of the 03:07 foods we want. NN: The foods high in 03:09 antioxidants. So, your berries in particular. 03:12 Raspberry, blackberries, blueberries. 03:15 JB: That's good. NN: Uh, you know, strawberries 03:16 very good. Even red grapes are very good. 03:21 Kiwi, uh. JB: Very good. 03:24 NN: Yeah. Cherries are actually 03:27 good antioxidant fruits. JB: Isn't it interesting 03:30 that God made, these are the fun foods. 03:33 NN: Yeah. JB: You know. 03:34 Who doesn't want to sit down with a, with a plate of 03:36 blueberries or raspberries or strawberries, 03:38 something like that? NN: Right. 03:39 And fruit particularly decreases the risk of, uh, of lung cancer. 03:43 One of the most common cancers. JB: Fruit in general? 03:45 NN: Yes. The more fruit. 03:47 JB: I like that. NN: Even, uh, not only among 03:49 smokers, but also non-smokers, the study in southern California 03:53 on Seventh-Day Adventists showed that non-smokers can get lung 03:57 cancer, but they only get it about 20% as likely if they're 04:01 on a high fruit diet. So, 04:04 it's important. Yeah. JB: So, these, the antioxidant 04:07 foods, whenever we talk about foods that are good for your 04:10 health, it seems as though leafy greens are always up there. 04:14 Leafy green vegetables have a positive impact on our immune 04:18 system? NN: They do. 04:19 Yup. Spinach, kale, 04:21 great antioxidants, garlic, onion, beets. 04:25 JB: All right, not bad. NN: Yeah. 04:27 JB: All right. I think we can, 04:28 we can handle that. NN: Yeah. 04:30 Good foods. JB: Then here's a good thing. 04:31 I want you to notice this. When you're talking about 04:33 looking after your immune system, this isn't onerous or 04:36 hard or awful or awkward. You know what it sounds 04:38 a lot like? It sounds a lot like the kind of 04:41 stuff grandma used to eat. And when I say grandma, I mean, 04:45 my wife's southern American grandma. 04:49 Black-eyed peas and crowder peas and beans and you know. 04:54 NN: Yeah, yeah. JB: Food I never even heard of 04:55 growing up on the other side of the world, right? 04:58 It's the sort of stuff that grandma and her family, 05:01 her, her brothers, they all lived to be pretty old. 05:04 NN: Right. JB: And yet on the other hand, 05:07 there were some aspects of their diet that was a disaster. 05:10 NN: Yeah. JB: I wonder if the fact that 05:13 they ate some things that any doctor would say slow down 05:16 about, I wonder if that was offset by the very high amounts 05:21 of very healthy foods. Is there anything to that idea? 05:23 NN: Well, yes, you can offset it some. 05:25 You know, for instance, studies have shown that smokers, 05:29 if they're on a high carotenoid diet will only have one-third 05:33 the risk of developing lung cancer compared to smokers 05:36 who are not on a good diet. But, if you take a non-smoker 05:41 who's not on a good diet, his chance of lung cancer is 05:45 only 1 out of 10 compared to the smoker who's on a good diet. 05:49 So, in other words, the cigarette smoking, 05:51 the diet does help. JB: Okay. 05:53 NN: And all of that, the immune system does help, but if we 05:56 overload the system with carcinogens, we're going to 05:59 likely pay for that. JB: Sure, sure. 06:01 So, you can't say, you know, I'm eating enough carotenoids. 06:05 The carotenoid foods are the yellows and the oranges, right? 06:07 NN: Correct. JB: Whatever is yellow and 06:08 orange, that's good for you. NN: That's right. 06:10 JB: Yeah, that's good to know. So, we can optimize our immune 06:13 system by eating well, I'm going to guess by, by sleeping well? 06:18 NN: Getting enough sleep, that's right., 06:19 JB: Exercise. NN: Exercise. 06:21 Particularly aerobic exercise, becoming fit is going to enhance 06:25 your immune system. JB: And you said vitamins A, C, 06:28 E, and D. NN: Yes. 06:30 Vitamin D it turns out is the most crucial, if we were to 06:35 weigh them against each other, vitamin D actually prevents more 06:40 cancers than A, C, and E combined. 06:43 JB: Combined. NN: Yeah. 06:44 JB: Okay, we need the D. What's, where do I find the 06:46 vitamin D? NN: The sun. 06:49 JB: Okay. Now somebody like me with very 06:51 fair skin, I need to make sure I'm getting just enough and not 06:54 too much. NN: That's right. 06:55 You need to make sure you're not getting too much. 06:57 But here is what a lot of people are not aware of. 07:00 The sun prevents far more cancer than it causes. 07:04 JB: Is that so? NN: And so, if you are low in 07:08 vitamin D and you avoid the sunburn and thus avoid skin 07:11 cancers, you're actually going to have a much higher rate of 07:15 other cancers than if you would have gotten a little bit of 07:20 sunburn and gotten the benefits of the vitamin D. 07:23 JB: I'm thinking though it's not necessary to get sunburned 07:26 to get enough sun. NN: It's not. 07:27 JB: How, how much sun is enough sun? 07:29 Generally. And it may vary 07:30 from person to person. NN: Well, it depends on 07:32 where you're at. I know if it's a summer day in 07:35 the South, it doesn't take much, you know, 15 minutes 07:39 and you're done. You've got enough vitamin D and 07:41 you're not going to burn yourself in 15 minutes 07:43 in most cases. JB: Okay. 07:45 NN: Um, so you don't need all that much sun exposure. 07:48 Now, you know, if you're above Sacramento, California 07:50 and all the way over to Boston, Massachusetts in the winter time 07:53 you're not getting any vitamin D. 07:55 So you need to get a lot in the summer to store it over. 07:59 JB: And you can store it up? NN: You can store it. 08:01 Yeah, vitamin D is fat soluble, so it's storable in the system. 08:06 Uh, but, or you might need to take vitamin D supplements. 08:10 JB: What about folks who live way north, up in Alaska, you 08:14 know, where the sun barely even pokes its head above the horizon 08:18 for much of the year? NN: Yeah. 08:20 They'll have very low vitamin D levels and thus they have higher 08:22 cancer rates. JB: They do, huh? 08:24 NN: Yeah, yeah, absolutely. Now, hopefully, they're outdoors 08:27 in the summertime, because even up in Alaska you can get some 08:29 vitamin D, you know, in midday in the summertime. 08:33 JB: Yeah, yeah. Back to antioxidants. 08:37 I understand there's a school of thought where people are saying 08:42 antioxidants may even be bad for you if you have cancer. 08:46 And so, I'm going to ask you about that. 08:47 NN: Okay. JB: In just a moment. 08:48 There's more to talk about today because when it comes to cancer 08:55 there really is hope and you want to know what that is. 08:59 We'll be back with more straight ahead. 09:03 [Gentle Music)] "Every Word" is a one-minute 09:05 Bible-based daily devotional presented by Pastor 09:07 John Bradshaw and designed especially for busy people 09:10 like you. Receive a daily spiritual boost, 09:13 watch "Every Word." [upbeat music] 09:23 A headline I read really got my attention - "Hungover Surgeons 09:27 Make More Mistakes." You think? 09:30 I never thought about a hung-over surgeon before 09:33 but doctors are human too and there are enought of them 09:35 that sooner or later one of them's going to make a 09:37 mistake. And event the best doctor 09:39 doesn't have all the answers, but there's someone who does. 09:42 Speaking of Jesus, Matthew 12:15 says, "Great multitudes follow 09:46 Him, and He healed them all." Jesus truly is the Great 09:50 Physician. Very often he works through the 09:53 medical profession to bring healing. 09:55 Sometimes he does the miraculous and there are times that 09:58 physical healing doesn't come. 10:00 That can be hard to accept, but in those cases we can accept 10:03 spiritual healing and know that perfect health will be ours in 10:07 the world to come. Jesus is a physician that gets 10:10 it right every time. Let's live today by every word. 10:16 We hear it all the time- God is all-powerful! 10:19 God is love! If God is so powerful and so 10:22 loving, why is there so much suffering? 10:25 If you'd like to see what the Bible says on this subject, let 10:27 me send you a booklet called "Why Does God Allow Suffering?" 10:30 It's is absolutely free. Just call 1 (800) 253-3000 and 10:35 ask for "Why Does God Allow Suffering." 10:38 If the line's busy, do keep on trying. 10:40 Or write to: It Is Written, P.O. Box 6, 10:43 Chattanooga, Tennessee 37401, 10:46 and we'll mail a free copy to your address in North America. 10:49 Our toll-free number is 1 (800) 253-3000, and our web 10:53 address is ItIsWritten.com. 10:59 JB: This is It Is Written, thanks for joining me today. 11:01 I'm John Bradshaw being joined by Dr. Neil Nedley 11:04 the president of Nedley Health Solutions. 11:07 Cancer, is there hope? Why does it matter? 11:09 This is It Is Written, I'll tell you why. 11:11 We were designed and made intentionally by a loving 11:15 creator God. He put us on this earth 11:18 to live long and prosper. Yet because of sin entering the 11:23 picture, we are beset and dragged down and weighed down by 11:26 all kinds of diseases and what they do is they sap our lives in 11:31 so many ways, and ultimately negatively affect our 11:34 relationship with God. We don't want that. 11:37 If cancer strikes, is there hope? 11:39 We're going to get to that in just a moment. 11:40 Dr. Nedley, I wanted to ask you about antioxidants because there 11:44 are some, and no doubt many have heard this line of reasoning, 11:49 antioxidants are bad for you if you have cancer. 11:52 Is there anything to that? NN: Yeah, well, the theory was 11:55 that since antioxidants protect cells from being damaged that 12:00 maybe they're protecting our cancer cells from the 12:03 chemotherapy destroying it. JB: Okay. 12:06 NN: And so, many oncologists, based on theory alone, no 12:10 science behind it other than the theory, were advising people to 12:14 be on a very poor diet. JB: Oh, my. 12:16 NN: Poor in antioxidants, while they're on cancer treatment of 12:19 radiation and chemo to make sure the cancer gets destroyed. 12:23 Well, in reality the antioxidants protect our good 12:26 cells and they don't protect our bad cells. 12:30 And so, what happens is the longevity of people on 12:34 antioxidants when they're on cancer treatment is even higher 12:37 because we want to protect our good cells. 12:40 And the unfortunate thing is radiation and chemo can destroy 12:43 some of the good cells. JB: Yes. 12:44 NN: And that's why we can have side effects that can be even 12:47 deadly sometimes from these things. 12:49 Wherefore on a high antioxidant program, uh, we're not going to 12:54 protect our cancer cells at all from these treatments. 12:56 JB: Certainly, one should always have faith in God. 12:59 But what's the role for a believer in God and somebody who 13:02 stands on the Bible, what's the role in their experience for 13:06 things such as radiation and chemotherapy? 13:10 NN: Yeah, or maybe we could even start out with surgery. 13:13 I've heard it said that, hey, you know, stay away from surgery 13:17 because it's going to spread your cancer. 13:19 JB: Oh, that's wrong. NN: And it's going to have all 13:21 of those issues. And sometimes I've had to 13:23 remind these Christians which came first, 13:26 sin or surgery? JB: There you go. 13:29 NN: And often they tell me, well, of course, sin came first. 13:32 Actually, no. Surgery came first and both 13:34 patients were satisfied with the results. 13:37 JB: (laughs) Yes, that's right. Explain, for somebody 13:39 who didn't get that, what are you referring to? 13:41 NN: Well, actually before surgery there was anesthesia. 13:44 JB: There you go. God caused Adam to fall into a 13:47 deep sleep and he performed a little surgical procedure 13:49 and removed a rib and by the time he was done 13:51 NN: That's right. JB: Adam was happy. 13:53 NN: Exactly. And, well, God can, God can 13:56 guide the hand of the surgeon. JB: Yes. 13:58 NN: Um, there are, are skilled surgeons that 14:01 the Lord can guide in actually taking out these tumors. 14:03 And, no, surgery does not increase the risk 14:07 of the cancer spreading. If it's confined and can be 14:11 taken care of that way, that's a good choice. 14:15 JB: Some of the side effects from chemotherapy and radiation 14:18 can be brutal. Some can. 14:21 So, is it a, a, a denial of faith in God to go 14:26 the medical route? NN: It's not. 14:28 I'll tell you, there was a, um, a patient of mine that had 14:32 advanced breast cancer. She didn't come to me until her 14:35 breast cancer was very advanced and it was bleeding. 14:39 Um, just huge, she was, you know, 14:41 a believer, and, um, said that, you know, 14:45 or believed that she shouldn't have surgery or treatment. 14:47 She was trying all these natural remedies and her daughter was 14:50 putting charcoal on it and it was now getting into some 14:54 significant arteries and sometimes she would have 14:56 significant massive bleeding. We were having to transfuse her. 15:01 And she wouldn't be convinced otherwise. 15:04 Uh, and finally I came into her and I gave her this 15:07 illustration. I said, there was a cancer on 15:11 the earth, you know, when, for instance, 15:14 when the Amalekites first came across the Israelites, God said, 15:18 no, now is not the time. But eventually they got to the 15:22 place where if they would have continued to exist, the cancers 15:27 of sin that they would have produced on this earth 15:30 could have potentially wiped out the entire earth. 15:32 JB: Right. NN: And so, the Lord said, 15:35 get rid of them, every last one of them. 15:39 And in those battles where Israel was told to fight, 15:43 they often lost good soldiers in those battles. 15:45 JB: That's right. NN: And sometimes hundreds of, 15:48 uh, of Israelites were killed that were good people, 15:51 but it was for a good cause of wiping out a cancer 15:55 that was on the earth. And so, as I explained 15:58 that to her, I said, think of chemotherapy as warring 16:02 against your cancer cells. Yes, it may destroy some 16:05 good cells, but if your cancer cells are not destroyed, 16:09 this cancer will destroy you. That was eight years ago. 16:14 After that, she told her family to all leave who were trying to 16:18 convince her into chemo for, you know, 16:20 quite a long period of time, and she sat there with me 16:24 and wanted to fully understand what I was saying and then she 16:27 had me leave the room and then 30 minutes later she had us come 16:30 and she said, I'm made my decision, we're going to undergo 16:32 chemotherapy. JB: And she's alive today? 16:34 NN: And she's alive today and that tumor shrunk right down. 16:38 We put her on a good other program, with good antioxidants 16:41 and other things to try to help protect those cells. 16:44 But she is eternally grateful because she would have been in 16:46 the grave within a matter of weeks, um, 16:48 had that not taken place. JB: It's not a disavowal of 16:50 faith in God to seek good medical treatment. 16:53 NN: That's right. JB: That's not to say all chemo 16:59 is right in all cases for all people in all situations. 17:02 NN: That's right. JB: Right. 17:02 NN: Right. JB: And if you, if you go a 17:04 conventional medical route under the guidance of, 17:07 of good physicians, that's not to say 17:10 you can't do other things. Because you still have faith 17:11 in God. NN: That's right. 17:13 JB: And still do, do natural things that wouldn't harm your 17:15 immune system. NN: But we do need to understand 17:18 that if cancer cells are not destroyed, they will destroy 17:21 you, and it gets down to the point where we have to destroy 17:23 every last one. JB: Yeah. 17:25 NN: If there's one of them there, it's going to start 17:28 reproducing and within several years it's going to actually 17:32 come back. JB: Cancer, is there hope? 17:35 Why are we talking about this? Clearly God wants us to live an 17:38 abundant life. Cancer affects one in two men 17:42 and one in three women in the United States. 17:44 Dr. Nedley, somebody has cancer, invasive cancer, we've spoken 17:49 just a few moments ago about, uh, various options, but what, 17:53 what does a person do, should a person, 17:56 could a person do when they've got it? 17:59 NN: Well, when they've got invasive cancer, there's good 18:01 questions that they need to ask their cancer doctors. 18:04 What is, what is my likelihood of cure with this treatment? 18:08 What is my likelihood of remission? 18:10 Avail themselves of good evidence-based treatments. 18:16 But at the same time, they need to see what they can do to get 18:20 on the best nutrition and lifestyle program. 18:24 A lot of people have this mistake thinking, hey, I've 18:27 already god cancer, so why change my lifestyle now? 18:32 And studies show that if you change your lifestyle for the 18:34 better, you significantly improve your odds. 18:36 For instance, if you have lung cancer and don't quit smoking, 18:40 your chance of cancer recurrence is far higher than 18:43 if you quit smoking. JB: Right. 18:45 NN: If you have colon cancer and you continue to eat red meat, 18:49 your chance of recurrence is higher than if you don't eat 18:51 red meat. And so, what you need to do is 18:56 also get in touch with a clinician or a physician who can 19:00 give you the evidence-based therapies that can be utilized 19:05 in conjunction with traditional therapies that can improve 19:09 your odds. JB: Natural remedies. 19:13 They come in all different shapes and sizes. 19:15 What are some that have been demonstrated to help in, uh, 19:22 the case of cancer? And I just want to say to you, 19:24 at the risk of sounding redundant, I'm not one who 19:27 advocates ignoring conventional cancer treatment and going the 19:33 whole hog on natural remedies. If God leads a person to do 19:36 that, that's fine, but I, I'm convicted that we should really 19:41 be wise about using, uh, modern medical methods 19:45 that are available to us. That having been said, 19:47 natural remedies? NN: Turmeric, for instance, 19:50 for breast cancer. Significant improvement when 19:55 combined, uh, with chemotherapy, versus chemotherapy 19:59 with no turmeric on board. Turmeric not only can help with 20:02 breast cancer, it can help with melanoma, it can help with other 20:06 forms of cancer, even pancreatic cancer. 20:09 Uh, feverfew, uh, which is a plant, 20:12 uh, that's derived a chemical called [parthenolide] 20:15 has been shown to be actually more effective than the best 20:18 effective drug for acute myelocytic leukemia. 20:22 Resveratrol in combination with other treatments has been show 20:26 to help with pancreatic cancer. Uh. 20:30 JB: And we get resveratrol from? NN: From red grapes. 20:33 Then there's, um, pomegranate juice 20:36 for prostate cancer, actually decreases the doubling 20:40 time of prostate cancer significantly. 20:43 These are all peer-reviewed scientific literature. 20:46 You could log onto our web site and actually see the references 20:49 and the peer-reviewed, uh, research. 20:52 Here's kind of the, the frustration that I have as 20:54 far as our medical society is concerned, if you don't offer a 20:59 patient chemotherapy, um, you can be committing malpractice. 21:03 But if you don't tell them about pomegranate juice 21:07 in prostate cancer, it's not seen as malpractice. 21:09 JB: Right. NN: Uh, and it, it's because of 21:12 the bias that we have in the pharmaceutical industry that is 21:16 so strong a lobby group, uh, and there isn't any lobby group for 21:22 pomegranates, for instance, because they don't cost 21:24 anything, there's no patent on it and that sort of thing. 21:27 So, unless your doctor is informed about peer-review 21:30 research, you may never find out about that. 21:33 And so that's why it's important for you to also talk to someone 21:36 who's familiar with the peer-review research in cancer, 21:40 because it's a combined approach that's going to improve your 21:43 odds of survival. JB: That's what I say. 21:45 You want to do your homework. But let's talk about prayer. 21:48 NN: Um-hum. JB: I've spoken to people who've 21:50 had cancer and they said, there's nothing like this cancer 21:54 to kick start or readjust my relationship with God. 21:57 When you're, when you're confronting your own mortality, 22:00 it makes you really think about these things. 22:03 NN: There have been studies on SRC. 22:05 SRC is the enigma of the cancer researchers, it's called 22:10 Spontaneous Regression of Cancer. 22:13 JB: Yeah. NN: And these are people that 22:15 did nothing, but then they came back expecting to die, told they 22:19 were given a death sentence, and six months later they're not 22:21 dead, they're actually feeling pretty good, and they come back 22:24 and have their scans and the cancer is all gone. 22:27 There's been over 140 cases now described in the medical 22:30 literature of SRC, and every one of those cases involved prayer. 22:38 But it wasn't a prayer for a cure, 22:41 interestingly enough. Doctor Dawsey 22:43 has demonstrated this. We have it in our book 22:45 "Proof Positive." We, we show all 22:47 the research on this. It was actually a prayer placing 22:51 the individual into the will, into the hands of God. 22:55 And that person was committed to doing God's will in their life, 22:59 thinking that they were going to die. 23:01 But they just wanted to do his will during the remaining few 23:04 weeks of their life. And in some instances, you can't 23:08 explain it any other way, the Lord was the one 23:12 who was the Great Physician and touched them. 23:14 JB: You know, I've said this to people many times and then when 23:18 I was dealing with cancer, I, I, uh, way up 23:22 with what I was saying meant anything or nothing. 23:25 There are worse things than being sick. 23:27 There are worse things than a terminal illness. 23:30 Because when we think about this in the light of eternity, 23:33 whatever we go through on this earth, 23:35 that's one thing, but the point is 23:37 we want to get out of this earth and into the world to come. 23:40 NN: That's right. JB: So, really, I say this 23:42 with a great deal of respect, whether we live or die, 23:46 that's not really the important question 23:49 because we're all going to die anyhow. 23:51 What's important is what happens next. 23:53 NN: That's right. JB: And even if a person has a 23:55 cancer that isn't going to be cured, it's what happens 23:59 next that's important. When your eyes open again, 24:02 will you see Jesus? Will there be a place for you 24:05 in God's eternal kingdom? And that's where there is hope 24:08 for everybody. NN: Yeah. 24:10 The Book of James says that if we pray according to God's will, 24:14 he will raise up the sick. Now, it doesn't tell us the time 24:18 that that will occur. JB: That's right. 24:20 NN: But, uh, we know that, uh, if you are in the Lord's hands 24:24 and you do die, you're going to be healed in the resurrection. 24:27 There's going to be no cancer in heaven. 24:29 And so maybe it's the Lord's will that 24:31 you're not healed until then. JB: And we want to encourage 24:34 you with that today. You know, 24:35 there's a lot you can do to strengthen your immune system, 24:37 stay away from certain things, be sure you're 24:40 getting the right antioxidants. Ah, and then what? 24:46 Well, then you trust the Lord. Maybe somebody with cancer 24:49 is going to have radiation or chemotherapy or not. 24:52 Maybe you're going to drink some carrot juice 24:54 or do something different. But there's hope. 24:56 There's real hope for healing, thank God. 24:59 And ultimately there's the guarantee of ultimate healing, 25:05 because one day Jesus will come back, he'll take us to a place 25:07 the Bible says the inhabitant of that place will not say, 25:10 I am sick. God will wipe away all tears 25:13 from their eyes, there'll be no more death, 25:16 neither sorrow, nor crying, 25:17 neither will there be any pain because the former things 25:20 are passed away. But if you're facing in your 25:23 personal experience, in your family, 25:25 with a friend, I want you to know today, 25:28 thank God there is hope. 25:32 [soft piano melody] 25:37 We hear it all the time- God is all-powerful! 25:39 God is love! If God is so powerful and so 25:42 loving, why is there so much suffering? 25:45 If you'd like to see what the Bible says on this subject, 25:47 let me send you a booklet called "Why Does God Allow Suffering?" 25:51 Just call 1 (800) 253-3000 and ask for "Why Does God Allow 25:56 Suffering." Or write to: 25:58 It Is Written, P.O. Box 6, Chattanooga, TN 37401, 26:03 and we'll mail a free copy to your address in North America. 26:06 It Is Written is a faith-based ministry; your support makes it 26:10 possible for us to share God's Good News with the world. 26:14 Your tax-deductible gift can be sent to the address on your 26:16 screen, or through our website at ItIsWritten.com. 26:20 Thank you for your continued prayerful support. 26:23 Again, our toll-free number is (800) 253-3000, and our web 26:28 address is ItIsWritten.com 26:32 JB: Dr. Nedley, again thanks for joining me today. 26:36 You've helped us to understand there really is hope and we're 26:40 encouraged through Christ. Thank you. 26:42 NN: Yes. Thank you. 26:43 JB: Let's pray, let's pray and thank God for the hope he 26:46 gives us through Jesus Christ. ♪ [Warm and Heartfelt melody] ♪ 26:49 Our Father in Heaven, we are grateful. 26:53 We thank you that as Dr. Nedley has said, there are many things 26:55 that we can do to improve our odds, if I can put it that way, 26:59 in the face of cancer. There are many things. 27:03 And you can heal. You've done it again 27:05 and again and again. You can heal through 27:09 one means or another. You can heal. 27:13 And ultimately we're grateful to know that when Jesus returns, 27:19 that in the earth made new, we'll be healed, healed of any 27:23 physical malady and healed from every spiritual malady that 27:27 afflicted us while on this earth. 27:29 We thank you for hope today. And we thank you 27:32 for Jesus today. And we pray in Jesus' name. 27:35 Amen. NN: Amen. 27:40 [gentle tune] 27:54 JB: Thank you for joining me today. 27:56 I look forward to seeing you again next time. 27:58 Until then, remember It Is Written. 28:02 Man shall not live by bread alone but by every word that 28:06 proceeds from the mouth of God. [It Is Written theme] |
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