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Cancer: Is There Hope?

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00:04 [dramatic music]
00:10 [male narrator] It has stood
00:12 the test of time, God's book, the Bible.
00:21 Still relevant in today's complex world.
00:26 It Is Written. Sharing hope around the globe.
00:36 [music rings out]
00:41 This is It Is Written.
00:42 I'm John Bradshaw. Thanks for joining me today.
00:45 My guest today is Dr. Neil Nedley,
00:47 the president of Nedley Health Solutions.
00:49 Dr. Nedley, thanks for joining me today.
00:51 Neil Nedley: Thank you. Great to be here.
00:53 JB: We've spoken a number of times on this program.
00:55 It's always a blessing to have you here.
00:57 I'm grateful that you're willing to take heavy topics head on,
01:02 and tell us not maybe what we always want to hear,
01:05 but certainly according to the Bible and good science,
01:08 what we need to hear. NN: Yes.
01:10 JB: And today we're going to visit the subject of cancer.
01:14 And here's why. Um, our health,
01:18 our physical health, our emotional health,
01:22 our mental health, is all very important in and of itself.
01:27 But also very important as it relates to our spiritual health.
01:32 NN: Um-hum. JB: There's that old saying,
01:33 healthy body, healthy mind. Well, truth be told, when it
01:36 comes to our relationship with God, there's a whole lot of
01:38 truth in that. What's our immune system?
01:42 How does it work? NN: Our immune system is there
01:44 to detect foreign invaders that are harmful to us.
01:49 Or to detect abnormal cells that, uh, are not really our own
01:55 good cells and to destroy them. JB: Now, cancer cells are those
02:00 abnormal cells. Why doesn't our immune system
02:01 just see them and [snap] take them out?
02:04 NN: Well, uh, often because they look pretty similar
02:07 to the original. JB: You mean you're saying that
02:08 the immune system sometimes just doesn't recognize cancer cells?
02:11 NN: That's right. Exactly.
02:13 And so it will leave it alone thinking that it's actually a
02:16 normal cell. JB: Okay.
02:17 Now, are all immune systems created, well, I suppose they're
02:20 created equal, but to you and I, or me and the guy next door,
02:24 do we have essentially the same immune system or is one up
02:27 and one down? NN: No, one can be up and one
02:29 can be down in accordance with our lifestyle.
02:32 So, what we're putting into our bodies, what we're doing with
02:34 our bodies, is either enhancing our immune system or actually
02:38 making it less effective. JB: Well, we want to have a more
02:41 effective immune system. NN: Correct.
02:43 JB: How can we have that? NN: Well, uh, by paying
02:46 attention to what we're putting into our body.
02:48 JB: Okay. Food, drink.
02:49 NN: Food, drink, yes. And even important vitamins like
02:53 vitamin D. Uh, and A, C and E.
02:57 And, uh, and those sorts of things.
02:59 JB: Share with me what science says makes for a good immune
03:04 system? List, list off some of the
03:07 foods we want. NN: The foods high in
03:09 antioxidants. So, your berries in particular.
03:12 Raspberry, blackberries, blueberries.
03:15 JB: That's good. NN: Uh, you know, strawberries
03:16 very good. Even red grapes are very good.
03:21 Kiwi, uh. JB: Very good.
03:24 NN: Yeah. Cherries are actually
03:27 good antioxidant fruits. JB: Isn't it interesting
03:30 that God made, these are the fun foods.
03:33 NN: Yeah. JB: You know.
03:34 Who doesn't want to sit down with a, with a plate of
03:36 blueberries or raspberries or strawberries,
03:38 something like that? NN: Right.
03:39 And fruit particularly decreases the risk of, uh, of lung cancer.
03:43 One of the most common cancers. JB: Fruit in general?
03:45 NN: Yes. The more fruit.
03:47 JB: I like that. NN: Even, uh, not only among
03:49 smokers, but also non-smokers, the study in southern California
03:53 on Seventh-Day Adventists showed that non-smokers can get lung
03:57 cancer, but they only get it about 20% as likely if they're
04:01 on a high fruit diet. So,
04:04 it's important. Yeah. JB: So, these, the antioxidant
04:07 foods, whenever we talk about foods that are good for your
04:10 health, it seems as though leafy greens are always up there.
04:14 Leafy green vegetables have a positive impact on our immune
04:18 system? NN: They do.
04:19 Yup. Spinach, kale,
04:21 great antioxidants, garlic, onion, beets.
04:25 JB: All right, not bad. NN: Yeah.
04:27 JB: All right. I think we can,
04:28 we can handle that. NN: Yeah.
04:30 Good foods. JB: Then here's a good thing.
04:31 I want you to notice this. When you're talking about
04:33 looking after your immune system, this isn't onerous or
04:36 hard or awful or awkward. You know what it sounds
04:38 a lot like? It sounds a lot like the kind of
04:41 stuff grandma used to eat. And when I say grandma, I mean,
04:45 my wife's southern American grandma.
04:49 Black-eyed peas and crowder peas and beans and you know.
04:54 NN: Yeah, yeah. JB: Food I never even heard of
04:55 growing up on the other side of the world, right?
04:58 It's the sort of stuff that grandma and her family,
05:01 her, her brothers, they all lived to be pretty old.
05:04 NN: Right. JB: And yet on the other hand,
05:07 there were some aspects of their diet that was a disaster.
05:10 NN: Yeah. JB: I wonder if the fact that
05:13 they ate some things that any doctor would say slow down
05:16 about, I wonder if that was offset by the very high amounts
05:21 of very healthy foods. Is there anything to that idea?
05:23 NN: Well, yes, you can offset it some.
05:25 You know, for instance, studies have shown that smokers,
05:29 if they're on a high carotenoid diet will only have one-third
05:33 the risk of developing lung cancer compared to smokers
05:36 who are not on a good diet. But, if you take a non-smoker
05:41 who's not on a good diet, his chance of lung cancer is
05:45 only 1 out of 10 compared to the smoker who's on a good diet.
05:49 So, in other words, the cigarette smoking,
05:51 the diet does help. JB: Okay.
05:53 NN: And all of that, the immune system does help, but if we
05:56 overload the system with carcinogens, we're going to
05:59 likely pay for that. JB: Sure, sure.
06:01 So, you can't say, you know, I'm eating enough carotenoids.
06:05 The carotenoid foods are the yellows and the oranges, right?
06:07 NN: Correct. JB: Whatever is yellow and
06:08 orange, that's good for you. NN: That's right.
06:10 JB: Yeah, that's good to know. So, we can optimize our immune
06:13 system by eating well, I'm going to guess by, by sleeping well?
06:18 NN: Getting enough sleep, that's right.,
06:19 JB: Exercise. NN: Exercise.
06:21 Particularly aerobic exercise, becoming fit is going to enhance
06:25 your immune system. JB: And you said vitamins A, C,
06:28 E, and D. NN: Yes.
06:30 Vitamin D it turns out is the most crucial, if we were to
06:35 weigh them against each other, vitamin D actually prevents more
06:40 cancers than A, C, and E combined.
06:43 JB: Combined. NN: Yeah.
06:44 JB: Okay, we need the D. What's, where do I find the
06:46 vitamin D? NN: The sun.
06:49 JB: Okay. Now somebody like me with very
06:51 fair skin, I need to make sure I'm getting just enough and not
06:54 too much. NN: That's right.
06:55 You need to make sure you're not getting too much.
06:57 But here is what a lot of people are not aware of.
07:00 The sun prevents far more cancer than it causes.
07:04 JB: Is that so? NN: And so, if you are low in
07:08 vitamin D and you avoid the sunburn and thus avoid skin
07:11 cancers, you're actually going to have a much higher rate of
07:15 other cancers than if you would have gotten a little bit of
07:20 sunburn and gotten the benefits of the vitamin D.
07:23 JB: I'm thinking though it's not necessary to get sunburned
07:26 to get enough sun. NN: It's not.
07:27 JB: How, how much sun is enough sun?
07:29 Generally. And it may vary
07:30 from person to person. NN: Well, it depends on
07:32 where you're at. I know if it's a summer day in
07:35 the South, it doesn't take much, you know, 15 minutes
07:39 and you're done. You've got enough vitamin D and
07:41 you're not going to burn yourself in 15 minutes
07:43 in most cases. JB: Okay.
07:45 NN: Um, so you don't need all that much sun exposure.
07:48 Now, you know, if you're above Sacramento, California
07:50 and all the way over to Boston, Massachusetts in the winter time
07:53 you're not getting any vitamin D.
07:55 So you need to get a lot in the summer to store it over.
07:59 JB: And you can store it up? NN: You can store it.
08:01 Yeah, vitamin D is fat soluble, so it's storable in the system.
08:06 Uh, but, or you might need to take vitamin D supplements.
08:10 JB: What about folks who live way north, up in Alaska, you
08:14 know, where the sun barely even pokes its head above the horizon
08:18 for much of the year? NN: Yeah.
08:20 They'll have very low vitamin D levels and thus they have higher
08:22 cancer rates. JB: They do, huh?
08:24 NN: Yeah, yeah, absolutely. Now, hopefully, they're outdoors
08:27 in the summertime, because even up in Alaska you can get some
08:29 vitamin D, you know, in midday in the summertime.
08:33 JB: Yeah, yeah. Back to antioxidants.
08:37 I understand there's a school of thought where people are saying
08:42 antioxidants may even be bad for you if you have cancer.
08:46 And so, I'm going to ask you about that.
08:47 NN: Okay. JB: In just a moment.
08:48 There's more to talk about today because when it comes to cancer
08:55 there really is hope and you want to know what that is.
08:59 We'll be back with more straight ahead.
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10:00 That can be hard to accept, but in those cases we can accept
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10:59 JB: This is It Is Written, thanks for joining me today.
11:01 I'm John Bradshaw being joined by Dr. Neil Nedley
11:04 the president of Nedley Health Solutions.
11:07 Cancer, is there hope? Why does it matter?
11:09 This is It Is Written, I'll tell you why.
11:11 We were designed and made intentionally by a loving
11:15 creator God. He put us on this earth
11:18 to live long and prosper. Yet because of sin entering the
11:23 picture, we are beset and dragged down and weighed down by
11:26 all kinds of diseases and what they do is they sap our lives in
11:31 so many ways, and ultimately negatively affect our
11:34 relationship with God. We don't want that.
11:37 If cancer strikes, is there hope?
11:39 We're going to get to that in just a moment.
11:40 Dr. Nedley, I wanted to ask you about antioxidants because there
11:44 are some, and no doubt many have heard this line of reasoning,
11:49 antioxidants are bad for you if you have cancer.
11:52 Is there anything to that? NN: Yeah, well, the theory was
11:55 that since antioxidants protect cells from being damaged that
12:00 maybe they're protecting our cancer cells from the
12:03 chemotherapy destroying it. JB: Okay.
12:06 NN: And so, many oncologists, based on theory alone, no
12:10 science behind it other than the theory, were advising people to
12:14 be on a very poor diet. JB: Oh, my.
12:16 NN: Poor in antioxidants, while they're on cancer treatment of
12:19 radiation and chemo to make sure the cancer gets destroyed.
12:23 Well, in reality the antioxidants protect our good
12:26 cells and they don't protect our bad cells.
12:30 And so, what happens is the longevity of people on
12:34 antioxidants when they're on cancer treatment is even higher
12:37 because we want to protect our good cells.
12:40 And the unfortunate thing is radiation and chemo can destroy
12:43 some of the good cells. JB: Yes.
12:44 NN: And that's why we can have side effects that can be even
12:47 deadly sometimes from these things.
12:49 Wherefore on a high antioxidant program, uh, we're not going to
12:54 protect our cancer cells at all from these treatments.
12:56 JB: Certainly, one should always have faith in God.
12:59 But what's the role for a believer in God and somebody who
13:02 stands on the Bible, what's the role in their experience for
13:06 things such as radiation and chemotherapy?
13:10 NN: Yeah, or maybe we could even start out with surgery.
13:13 I've heard it said that, hey, you know, stay away from surgery
13:17 because it's going to spread your cancer.
13:19 JB: Oh, that's wrong. NN: And it's going to have all
13:21 of those issues. And sometimes I've had to
13:23 remind these Christians which came first,
13:26 sin or surgery? JB: There you go.
13:29 NN: And often they tell me, well, of course, sin came first.
13:32 Actually, no. Surgery came first and both
13:34 patients were satisfied with the results.
13:37 JB: (laughs) Yes, that's right. Explain, for somebody
13:39 who didn't get that, what are you referring to?
13:41 NN: Well, actually before surgery there was anesthesia.
13:44 JB: There you go. God caused Adam to fall into a
13:47 deep sleep and he performed a little surgical procedure
13:49 and removed a rib and by the time he was done
13:51 NN: That's right. JB: Adam was happy.
13:53 NN: Exactly. And, well, God can, God can
13:56 guide the hand of the surgeon. JB: Yes.
13:58 NN: Um, there are, are skilled surgeons that
14:01 the Lord can guide in actually taking out these tumors.
14:03 And, no, surgery does not increase the risk
14:07 of the cancer spreading. If it's confined and can be
14:11 taken care of that way, that's a good choice.
14:15 JB: Some of the side effects from chemotherapy and radiation
14:18 can be brutal. Some can.
14:21 So, is it a, a, a denial of faith in God to go
14:26 the medical route? NN: It's not.
14:28 I'll tell you, there was a, um, a patient of mine that had
14:32 advanced breast cancer. She didn't come to me until her
14:35 breast cancer was very advanced and it was bleeding.
14:39 Um, just huge, she was, you know,
14:41 a believer, and, um, said that, you know,
14:45 or believed that she shouldn't have surgery or treatment.
14:47 She was trying all these natural remedies and her daughter was
14:50 putting charcoal on it and it was now getting into some
14:54 significant arteries and sometimes she would have
14:56 significant massive bleeding. We were having to transfuse her.
15:01 And she wouldn't be convinced otherwise.
15:04 Uh, and finally I came into her and I gave her this
15:07 illustration. I said, there was a cancer on
15:11 the earth, you know, when, for instance,
15:14 when the Amalekites first came across the Israelites, God said,
15:18 no, now is not the time. But eventually they got to the
15:22 place where if they would have continued to exist, the cancers
15:27 of sin that they would have produced on this earth
15:30 could have potentially wiped out the entire earth.
15:32 JB: Right. NN: And so, the Lord said,
15:35 get rid of them, every last one of them.
15:39 And in those battles where Israel was told to fight,
15:43 they often lost good soldiers in those battles.
15:45 JB: That's right. NN: And sometimes hundreds of,
15:48 uh, of Israelites were killed that were good people,
15:51 but it was for a good cause of wiping out a cancer
15:55 that was on the earth. And so, as I explained
15:58 that to her, I said, think of chemotherapy as warring
16:02 against your cancer cells. Yes, it may destroy some
16:05 good cells, but if your cancer cells are not destroyed,
16:09 this cancer will destroy you. That was eight years ago.
16:14 After that, she told her family to all leave who were trying to
16:18 convince her into chemo for, you know,
16:20 quite a long period of time, and she sat there with me
16:24 and wanted to fully understand what I was saying and then she
16:27 had me leave the room and then 30 minutes later she had us come
16:30 and she said, I'm made my decision, we're going to undergo
16:32 chemotherapy. JB: And she's alive today?
16:34 NN: And she's alive today and that tumor shrunk right down.
16:38 We put her on a good other program, with good antioxidants
16:41 and other things to try to help protect those cells.
16:44 But she is eternally grateful because she would have been in
16:46 the grave within a matter of weeks, um,
16:48 had that not taken place. JB: It's not a disavowal of
16:50 faith in God to seek good medical treatment.
16:53 NN: That's right. JB: That's not to say all chemo
16:59 is right in all cases for all people in all situations.
17:02 NN: That's right. JB: Right.
17:02 NN: Right. JB: And if you, if you go a
17:04 conventional medical route under the guidance of,
17:07 of good physicians, that's not to say
17:10 you can't do other things. Because you still have faith
17:11 in God. NN: That's right.
17:13 JB: And still do, do natural things that wouldn't harm your
17:15 immune system. NN: But we do need to understand
17:18 that if cancer cells are not destroyed, they will destroy
17:21 you, and it gets down to the point where we have to destroy
17:23 every last one. JB: Yeah.
17:25 NN: If there's one of them there, it's going to start
17:28 reproducing and within several years it's going to actually
17:32 come back. JB: Cancer, is there hope?
17:35 Why are we talking about this? Clearly God wants us to live an
17:38 abundant life. Cancer affects one in two men
17:42 and one in three women in the United States.
17:44 Dr. Nedley, somebody has cancer, invasive cancer, we've spoken
17:49 just a few moments ago about, uh, various options, but what,
17:53 what does a person do, should a person,
17:56 could a person do when they've got it?
17:59 NN: Well, when they've got invasive cancer, there's good
18:01 questions that they need to ask their cancer doctors.
18:04 What is, what is my likelihood of cure with this treatment?
18:08 What is my likelihood of remission?
18:10 Avail themselves of good evidence-based treatments.
18:16 But at the same time, they need to see what they can do to get
18:20 on the best nutrition and lifestyle program.
18:24 A lot of people have this mistake thinking, hey, I've
18:27 already god cancer, so why change my lifestyle now?
18:32 And studies show that if you change your lifestyle for the
18:34 better, you significantly improve your odds.
18:36 For instance, if you have lung cancer and don't quit smoking,
18:40 your chance of cancer recurrence is far higher than
18:43 if you quit smoking. JB: Right.
18:45 NN: If you have colon cancer and you continue to eat red meat,
18:49 your chance of recurrence is higher than if you don't eat
18:51 red meat. And so, what you need to do is
18:56 also get in touch with a clinician or a physician who can
19:00 give you the evidence-based therapies that can be utilized
19:05 in conjunction with traditional therapies that can improve
19:09 your odds. JB: Natural remedies.
19:13 They come in all different shapes and sizes.
19:15 What are some that have been demonstrated to help in, uh,
19:22 the case of cancer? And I just want to say to you,
19:24 at the risk of sounding redundant, I'm not one who
19:27 advocates ignoring conventional cancer treatment and going the
19:33 whole hog on natural remedies. If God leads a person to do
19:36 that, that's fine, but I, I'm convicted that we should really
19:41 be wise about using, uh, modern medical methods
19:45 that are available to us. That having been said,
19:47 natural remedies? NN: Turmeric, for instance,
19:50 for breast cancer. Significant improvement when
19:55 combined, uh, with chemotherapy, versus chemotherapy
19:59 with no turmeric on board. Turmeric not only can help with
20:02 breast cancer, it can help with melanoma, it can help with other
20:06 forms of cancer, even pancreatic cancer.
20:09 Uh, feverfew, uh, which is a plant,
20:12 uh, that's derived a chemical called [parthenolide]
20:15 has been shown to be actually more effective than the best
20:18 effective drug for acute myelocytic leukemia.
20:22 Resveratrol in combination with other treatments has been show
20:26 to help with pancreatic cancer. Uh.
20:30 JB: And we get resveratrol from? NN: From red grapes.
20:33 Then there's, um, pomegranate juice
20:36 for prostate cancer, actually decreases the doubling
20:40 time of prostate cancer significantly.
20:43 These are all peer-reviewed scientific literature.
20:46 You could log onto our web site and actually see the references
20:49 and the peer-reviewed, uh, research.
20:52 Here's kind of the, the frustration that I have as
20:54 far as our medical society is concerned, if you don't offer a
20:59 patient chemotherapy, um, you can be committing malpractice.
21:03 But if you don't tell them about pomegranate juice
21:07 in prostate cancer, it's not seen as malpractice.
21:09 JB: Right. NN: Uh, and it, it's because of
21:12 the bias that we have in the pharmaceutical industry that is
21:16 so strong a lobby group, uh, and there isn't any lobby group for
21:22 pomegranates, for instance, because they don't cost
21:24 anything, there's no patent on it and that sort of thing.
21:27 So, unless your doctor is informed about peer-review
21:30 research, you may never find out about that.
21:33 And so that's why it's important for you to also talk to someone
21:36 who's familiar with the peer-review research in cancer,
21:40 because it's a combined approach that's going to improve your
21:43 odds of survival. JB: That's what I say.
21:45 You want to do your homework. But let's talk about prayer.
21:48 NN: Um-hum. JB: I've spoken to people who've
21:50 had cancer and they said, there's nothing like this cancer
21:54 to kick start or readjust my relationship with God.
21:57 When you're, when you're confronting your own mortality,
22:00 it makes you really think about these things.
22:03 NN: There have been studies on SRC.
22:05 SRC is the enigma of the cancer researchers, it's called
22:10 Spontaneous Regression of Cancer.
22:13 JB: Yeah. NN: And these are people that
22:15 did nothing, but then they came back expecting to die, told they
22:19 were given a death sentence, and six months later they're not
22:21 dead, they're actually feeling pretty good, and they come back
22:24 and have their scans and the cancer is all gone.
22:27 There's been over 140 cases now described in the medical
22:30 literature of SRC, and every one of those cases involved prayer.
22:38 But it wasn't a prayer for a cure,
22:41 interestingly enough. Doctor Dawsey
22:43 has demonstrated this. We have it in our book
22:45 "Proof Positive." We, we show all
22:47 the research on this. It was actually a prayer placing
22:51 the individual into the will, into the hands of God.
22:55 And that person was committed to doing God's will in their life,
22:59 thinking that they were going to die.
23:01 But they just wanted to do his will during the remaining few
23:04 weeks of their life. And in some instances, you can't
23:08 explain it any other way, the Lord was the one
23:12 who was the Great Physician and touched them.
23:14 JB: You know, I've said this to people many times and then when
23:18 I was dealing with cancer, I, I, uh, way up
23:22 with what I was saying meant anything or nothing.
23:25 There are worse things than being sick.
23:27 There are worse things than a terminal illness.
23:30 Because when we think about this in the light of eternity,
23:33 whatever we go through on this earth,
23:35 that's one thing, but the point is
23:37 we want to get out of this earth and into the world to come.
23:40 NN: That's right. JB: So, really, I say this
23:42 with a great deal of respect, whether we live or die,
23:46 that's not really the important question
23:49 because we're all going to die anyhow.
23:51 What's important is what happens next.
23:53 NN: That's right. JB: And even if a person has a
23:55 cancer that isn't going to be cured, it's what happens
23:59 next that's important. When your eyes open again,
24:02 will you see Jesus? Will there be a place for you
24:05 in God's eternal kingdom? And that's where there is hope
24:08 for everybody. NN: Yeah.
24:10 The Book of James says that if we pray according to God's will,
24:14 he will raise up the sick. Now, it doesn't tell us the time
24:18 that that will occur. JB: That's right.
24:20 NN: But, uh, we know that, uh, if you are in the Lord's hands
24:24 and you do die, you're going to be healed in the resurrection.
24:27 There's going to be no cancer in heaven.
24:29 And so maybe it's the Lord's will that
24:31 you're not healed until then. JB: And we want to encourage
24:34 you with that today. You know,
24:35 there's a lot you can do to strengthen your immune system,
24:37 stay away from certain things, be sure you're
24:40 getting the right antioxidants. Ah, and then what?
24:46 Well, then you trust the Lord. Maybe somebody with cancer
24:49 is going to have radiation or chemotherapy or not.
24:52 Maybe you're going to drink some carrot juice
24:54 or do something different. But there's hope.
24:56 There's real hope for healing, thank God.
24:59 And ultimately there's the guarantee of ultimate healing,
25:05 because one day Jesus will come back, he'll take us to a place
25:07 the Bible says the inhabitant of that place will not say,
25:10 I am sick. God will wipe away all tears
25:13 from their eyes, there'll be no more death,
25:16 neither sorrow, nor crying,
25:17 neither will there be any pain because the former things
25:20 are passed away. But if you're facing in your
25:23 personal experience, in your family,
25:25 with a friend, I want you to know today,
25:28 thank God there is hope.
25:32 [soft piano melody]
25:37 We hear it all the time- God is all-powerful!
25:39 God is love! If God is so powerful and so
25:42 loving, why is there so much suffering?
25:45 If you'd like to see what the Bible says on this subject,
25:47 let me send you a booklet called "Why Does God Allow Suffering?"
25:51 Just call 1 (800) 253-3000 and ask for "Why Does God Allow
25:56 Suffering." Or write to:
25:58 It Is Written, P.O. Box 6, Chattanooga, TN 37401,
26:03 and we'll mail a free copy to your address in North America.
26:06 It Is Written is a faith-based ministry; your support makes it
26:10 possible for us to share God's Good News with the world.
26:14 Your tax-deductible gift can be sent to the address on your
26:16 screen, or through our website at ItIsWritten.com.
26:20 Thank you for your continued prayerful support.
26:23 Again, our toll-free number is (800) 253-3000, and our web
26:28 address is ItIsWritten.com
26:32 JB: Dr. Nedley, again thanks for joining me today.
26:36 You've helped us to understand there really is hope and we're
26:40 encouraged through Christ. Thank you.
26:42 NN: Yes. Thank you.
26:43 JB: Let's pray, let's pray and thank God for the hope he
26:46 gives us through Jesus Christ. ♪ [Warm and Heartfelt melody] ♪
26:49 Our Father in Heaven, we are grateful.
26:53 We thank you that as Dr. Nedley has said, there are many things
26:55 that we can do to improve our odds, if I can put it that way,
26:59 in the face of cancer. There are many things.
27:03 And you can heal. You've done it again
27:05 and again and again. You can heal through
27:09 one means or another. You can heal.
27:13 And ultimately we're grateful to know that when Jesus returns,
27:19 that in the earth made new, we'll be healed, healed of any
27:23 physical malady and healed from every spiritual malady that
27:27 afflicted us while on this earth.
27:29 We thank you for hope today. And we thank you
27:32 for Jesus today. And we pray in Jesus' name.
27:35 Amen. NN: Amen.
27:40 [gentle tune]
27:54 JB: Thank you for joining me today.
27:56 I look forward to seeing you again next time.
27:58 Until then, remember It Is Written.
28:02 Man shall not live by bread alone but by every word that
28:06 proceeds from the mouth of God. [It Is Written theme]


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