Participants: John Bradshaw (Host), Neil Nedley
Series Code: IIW
Program Code: IIW001443A
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00:00 The Bible says that people should
00:03 rejoice evermore. So what if you're somebody 00:07 who suffers from depression, as do one in ten American 00:10 adults? Depression can seriously 00:13 impact a person's Christian experience, and depression 00:17 has been implicated in the deaths of very many people. 00:19 I've come to Weimar, California to speak with Dr. 00:23 Neil Nedley, the president of Nedley Health Solutions. 00:27 Today, part one of a two-part series on depression, its 00:30 causes and its cures. Thanks for joining me today. 00:40 [driving theme music] 00:54 Dr. Nedley, thank you very much for joining me today. 00:56 I'm just so thankful you've been able to make this time. 00:59 NN: Thanks for inviting me, John. 01:00 I'm glad to be here. JB: Depression. 01:03 Let's start right at the beginning. 01:06 What is it? NN: It is an epidemic in our 01:09 society today. It's dramatically increasing 01:11 and it causes a lot of deep sadness. 01:15 That's what most people equate with depression, 01:18 feelings of deep sadness. But, you know, that's not the 01:22 only symptom that you get. You can actually not have 01:25 that symptom, you can just have a feeling of emptiness 01:28 and have depression. JB: Now when you talk about 01:30 depression, you know, people, PEOPLE have a bad day and 01:32 they're not depressed. People can be sad and not be 01:35 depressed, they can just be sad. 01:37 So there's a difference between being in a funk and 01:40 experiencing what is technically known as 01:42 depression. NN: Yes. 01:44 JB: So how do we really describe this technical 01:46 depression? If someone's depressed, 01:48 they're going to exhibit what? 01:50 NN: They're going to exhibit five, at least five of nine 01:53 symptoms for the majority of the time for the last two 01:56 weeks or more. JB: Okay, so there are nine 01:59 symptoms that qualify in this basket known as depression. 02:04 NN: Correct. JB: If you've got five of 02:06 them, you're depressed. NN: You have depression, 02:08 yeah, as long as you have those five the majority of 02:10 the time. So if you're sad for just one 02:12 day out of 14, it doesn't count. 02:13 But if you're sad the majority of the last 14 days, 02:17 then that would be symptom number one right there. 02:20 JB: Okay. We're going to talk about 02:21 those symptoms in just a moment. 02:23 But first let's point out a couple of things. 02:25 One in 10 Americans suffer depression, correct? 02:27 NN: Correct. Yes, right now as we're 02:29 speaking. JB: Okay. 02:31 And how does that break down by gender? 02:33 NN: Well, one of four women will suffer from it at some 02:34 point in their life. One out of eight men. 02:38 So it's twice as common in women as it is in men. 02:41 And it's actually increasing. Those are kind of old 02:43 statistics. It may be, this newer 02:45 generation, it looks like it's going to be a one out of 02:47 two lifetime risk for girls that are growing up today, 02:52 suffering from major depression. 02:54 JB: One out of two? NN: One out of two is what 02:56 it's looking like. JB: That is an epidemic. 02:58 NN: It is an epidemic, yeah. It's dramatically increasing. 03:01 Each successive generation when we look at it from 03:05 a epidemiological standpoint, each successive generation 03:08 has had significantly more depression than the previous 03:11 generation. JB: And my understanding is 03:13 that, I don't want to overstate this, but I'll tell 03:16 you what I think and you can correct me if you need to. 03:18 The majority of people who suffer depression aren't 03:22 aware that what they have is depression. 03:24 NN: That's true. Actually, it's been well 03:27 documented that about half of people with major depression 03:31 in the United States alone are not diagnosed with it. 03:36 In other words, they haven't sought help, they haven't 03:39 gone to a caregiver to find out why they're having the 03:41 symptoms that they're having, and they just think it's a 03:44 normal part of their existence for where they're 03:46 at in life. But depression is not normal. 03:49 It shouldn't be considered a normal part of existence. 03:53 JB: So there will be a lot of people watching us today who 03:57 might be completely unaware that they suffer from 04:01 depression. NN: Yeah, they might learn 04:03 something as a result of this and might realize that 04:05 they're actually suffering from it. 04:07 JB: Okay. Today we're talking about 04:09 depression and its causes, and a moment ago we talked 04:12 about these nine points, if you have five of them for the 04:14 majority of the time over two weeks, you're depressed. 04:17 NN: Yes. JB: What are those? 04:19 Do you have time to talk about what those five points 04:21 are? NN: Sure. 04:22 Yes. The first one would be either 04:24 a deep sadness or emptiness. Men tend to feel the 04:27 emptiness, women more of the sadness, although the men can 04:30 get sad too. Women will tend to have 04:33 crying spells where something they preferred not happen, 04:38 happened and they start to cry and they say, well, that 04:41 wasn't that bad, why am I crying? 04:44 And so they'll tend to seek help a little more than men. 04:46 Men just tend to feel empty and think that that's normal. 04:49 But either one qualifies as symptom number one. 04:51 The second is apathy. This is where you wake up in 04:54 the morning and you're not really interested in the 04:57 day's activities. You get up out of a sense of 05:00 responsibility but you're not really interested in the day. 05:04 And that is not a normal symptom to have the majority 05:07 of the time, and so apathy is distinctly abnormal. 05:11 The third one is agitation. This is where you're more 05:16 irritable than you used to be or you would also qualify for 05:20 symptom number three if you've had a slowing of your 05:25 muscle movement. You've just kind of slowed 05:27 down. A lot of people don't 05:28 recognize this until they see themselves on a video that 05:31 they've slowed down, but the irritability and the 05:35 slowness, that's the one the individual may not recognize 05:36 themselves, and they'll have to ask their spouse, am I 05:39 more irritable than I used to be? 05:41 The spouse will definitely tell you, or your friends 05:43 might tell you that as well. The fourth is a lack of 05:45 concentration. This is where you don't 05:51 really have the ability to sort things through to make 05:57 complex decisions and you recognize that you're just 06:00 not able to do that mental task like you used to. 06:05 Another symptom is sleep disturbances. 06:07 The most common sleep disturbance in someone with 06:09 depression is early-morning awakening. 06:13 This is where they go to bed, they can sleep okay, but then 06:16 they wake up too early and can't get back to sleep. 06:19 But you would also qualify for this symptom if you had 06:22 insomnia. In other words, you're not 06:24 able to go to sleep well. Or if you have hypersomnia. 06:27 Many people with depression suffer from just being sleepy 06:31 all the time. We have people who come to 06:34 our program who have been sleeping 20 hours a day for 06:36 weeks. Severe depression. 06:40 And so that's another symptom. 06:42 Another symptom is weight or appetite changes. 06:45 The most common is weight gain. 06:46 People tend to self-medicate themselves with chocolate 06:49 and soda pop and food, and as a result of this 06:53 self-medicating they tend to gain weight, but rather 06:56 severe sudden onset depression often has anorexia 07:01 or weight loss. JB: So it can go either way. 07:03 NN: It can go either way, yeah. 07:04 Another symptom is fatigue. Now fatigue is different than 07:09 apathy. Apathy means that you don't 07:12 have the interest in the day's activities, fatigue 07:15 means you just are tired and you don't know why you're 07:16 tired. You run out of energy 07:19 and you'd like to have more. And that's a very prominent 07:22 symptom in the people that see me as a physician in an 07:26 internal medicine office. And then the more severe 07:29 symptoms tend to be associated with morbid 07:31 thoughts. This is where the individual 07:35 has a preoccupation with death or symbols of death. 07:40 And so it's not just thinking about taking your own life, 07:43 although that would definitely qualify. 07:45 It might be fantasizing about someone else being dead. 07:48 Or just preoccupation with death in general. 07:50 And we are seeing that a lot more commonly today with 07:53 people tattooing skeletons and symbols of death. 07:57 There's even a new bathing suit line that my wife showed 07:59 me in a fashion magazine that just came out where the 08:02 ladies' bathing suits are all skeletons, and people are 08:07 resonating with this. If you resonate with that, 08:09 it's a sign that it's a morbid thought. 08:11 Not really normal, and if you have the other symptoms that 08:16 go along with it, it could be a clear sign that you're 08:18 experiencing depression. And companies are 08:22 capitalizing on people's morbid thoughts by changing 08:26 their fashion statements to resonate with them. 08:29 JB: Right. And if a person has five of 08:31 those pretty consistently over a two-week period, that 08:34 person really might well could be clinically 08:36 depressed. NN: Exactly. 08:39 JB: But there is a way out. NN: There is. 08:41 JB: Thank God for that. NN: Yes. 08:43 JB: And we're going to talk a little bit more about the 08:45 causes of depression, what causes this stuff to actually 08:49 take place in just a couple of moments. 08:52 Depression, serious business. The Bible says that we ought 08:55 to be full of joy as believers in Jesus. 08:58 That's not always the case for everybody. 09:01 Don't go away, we'll be back in a moment with more. 09:04 [MUSIC] Every Word is a one-minute, 09:06 Bible-based, daily devotional presented by Pastor John 09:09 Bradshaw and designed especially for busy 09:11 people like you. Look for Every Word on selected 09:15 networks, or watch it online every day on our website, 09:18 ItIsWritten.com. 09:21 [upbeat music] 09:29 The book of Revelation contains a lot of wonderful promises. 09:32 Here's one of them. Revelation 21:4 starts by saying 09:35 that "God shall wipe away all tears from their eyes." 09:39 That is, the eyes of His people as we enter into eternity. 09:43 This is a sad world. I've attended more funerals than 09:46 I ever thought I would. Every new day brings stories of 09:49 heartbreak and sadness, and in a world on the brink of ruin 09:53 there is desperation and misery everywhere you 09:55 turn. How is it with you? 09:57 Are you anguished, depressed, discouraged? 10:00 If not, I'm sure you know someone who is. 10:02 But what a great thought. "God shall wipe away all tears 10:05 from their eyes." Isn't that encouraging? 10:08 We might have to go through some trials and disappointments on 10:11 this earth, but there's coming a time when the last tear will 10:14 have been shed. That's good to know. 10:16 I'm John Bradshaw for It Is Written. 10:18 Let's live today by every word. 10:22 JB: Thanks for joining me today. 10:24 I've come to Weimar, California to speak with Dr. 10:26 Neil Nedley, the president of Nedley Health Solutions and 10:29 the founder of the Nedley Clinic. 10:34 Dr. Nedley, you are, in fact, an internal medicine 10:36 physician. NN: Correct. 10:38 JB: But you've become very interested in and very 10:41 effective at treating depression. 10:44 NN: Yes. JB: So how did you get from A 10:45 to B? How did that happen? 10:47 NN: Well, it's kind of interesting. 10:49 When I was a faculty member at Kettering Medical Center, 10:52 Wright State University, I used to teach residents. 10:56 And I used to teach my residents in internal 10:57 medicine that they needed to learn the common diseases 11:00 well. I wanted them to learn 11:03 pneumonia as good as a pulmonologist. 11:05 I wanted them to learn congestive heart failure as 11:07 good as a cardiologist, or gastroesophageal reflux 11:10 disease as good as a gastroenterologist. 11:13 Why? Because they were going to be 11:15 seeing these diseases almost every day of their life 11:19 and they really needed to know as much as the expert does in 11:22 the common diseases. After I finished my teaching 11:26 career I set up a practice, the Nedley Clinic, you just 11:30 mentioned it, in Ardmore, Oklahoma, and there was an 11:33 article that crossed my desk from the Archives of Internal 11:36 Medicine showing that up to one in three people that an 11:40 internist sees is suffering from major depression. 11:44 And I thought, well, that's not true in my patient 11:46 population in Oklahoma. But I thought, you know, I 11:49 can't just assume that, we'll test them. 11:51 So I had them go through the little screening test, 11:54 the nine-point screening test that we discussed earlier, 11:57 when they came in and I found out that it wasn't quite that 12:00 high, it was about one in four, but then it struck me, 12:03 common disease. Do I know this as good 12:06 as a psychiatrist? And I had to admit that I 12:09 didn't and so I started to learn at the feet of 12:12 preeminent psychiatrists, and then I recognized my need 12:16 of more study because there hadn't been enough research 12:19 done on the actual underlying causes. 12:23 And as an internist, when I see swollen feet, I don't 12:27 diagnose swollen-foot syndrome and send them out 12:30 the door with a diuretic, I try to find the cause of the 12:33 swollen feet, of which there can be about 100 different 12:35 causes. And so I thought let's try to 12:39 find out what are the real causes of depression, and I 12:42 did some extra research and that's how I started to get 12:46 very involved in this and then started treating my own 12:49 patients with results that were far better than what I 12:51 had ever anticipated. JB: I've seen the results of 12:55 what you've done. Your depression recovery 12:57 seminars have been held from sea to shining sea in many, 13:00 many places. I recall seeing the results 13:03 of depression recovery seminars, no names were 13:06 shown, I must point that out, and my friend said, this red 13:09 line is how depressed people were, this green line is how 13:12 undepressed they were, or how they were at the end. 13:15 And I said to my friend, who had conducted this Neil 13:18 Nedley Depression Recovery Seminar, are you fudging the 13:20 results.. NN: (LAUGHTER) JB:... 13:23 because they were so dramatic. 13:25 Depression is something a person can come back from. 13:27 NN: Absolutely, absolutely. JB: Okay, well, 13:30 what causes it? What are these underlying 13:32 causes? NN: Well, there are 10 13:34 categories of causes that we uncovered in our research. 13:39 And there's actually over 100 separate identifiable causes 13:41 for depression, but they can be categorized in 10 13:45 different ways. And you have to have four of 13:48 those categories of causes before you end up with 13:51 depression or anxiety disorder. 13:54 But one of them is frontal lobe causes. 13:57 That's the one that we deal with first. 13:59 The frontal lobe of the brain is the front portion of the 14:02 brain. It's the analytical portion 14:05 of the brain. Scientific studies show it's 14:08 the seat of spirituality, morality and the will. 14:12 It's the reason why we are spiritual beings and human 14:15 beings worship because our frontal lobe size is so much 14:19 greater than cats and dogs that you don't see in worship 14:22 services, because they can't identify with it. 14:25 But the frontal lobe circulation when it goes 14:29 down, it is a major setup for depression or anxiety 14:33 disorders and there's a lot of different things that can 14:36 fit under the categories of what can suppress or enhance 14:39 frontal-lobe function. JB: I've got to jump in with 14:41 "such as" ... give me three, four or five 14:43 pretty quickly. Things that suppress 14:45 frontal-lobe functions. NN: Well, for instance, rapid 14:48 scene of reference, entertainment television ... 14:52 JB: Oh, okay. NN: ... 14:53 suppresses the frontal lobe of the brain. 14:55 It can actually set yourself up for an addiction. 14:59 JB: And most people are just feasting on that every day. 15:01 NN: Right. Certain types of music. 15:04 The syncopated, boom-cha, rock-and-roll music can 15:08 actually suppress the frontal lobe of the brain. 15:12 JB: Something else that masses of population are 15:15 into. NN: You know, the interesting 15:16 thing about this, John, is a lot of the things that I 15:19 mention that detract from frontal-lobe function people 15:22 do to try to get happiness. And this is the ironic thing; 15:29 there are more fun things to do than ever before in human 15:32 history, but yet we have more depression than ever before 15:36 in human history. If these fun things actually 15:40 prevented or cured depression we should see the lowest 15:43 rates of depression on the planet. 15:45 These rapid-moving video games can actually suppress 15:47 the frontal lobe of the brain. 15:50 A lot of this screen time, this entertainment screen 15:56 time that America is fascinated with, a lot of it 15:59 does suppress frontal-lobe function. 16:01 And then just when we're not really exercising the 16:06 spiritual part of our brain, when we're not involved in 16:10 worship, when we're not involved in spiritual 16:14 analysis or reading, like the Bible, and analyzing 16:19 scripture with scripture, that's going to be a hit as 16:21 well. And it's not that necessarily 16:25 we have to have the Bible, but we need to have some sort 16:29 of analysis, some sort of abstract analysis that can 16:31 help frontal-lobe function. JB: Okay. 16:36 NN: So the second area is exercise, actually, lifestyle 16:41 causes. Physical exercise actually 16:45 helps the brain. Under the lifestyle causes, 16:47 sunlight. The light and the blue sky 16:50 that we're under here at Weimar actually helps 16:52 depression. It improves serotonin levels 16:55 in the brain. So when we're indoors, not 16:58 experiencing outdoor light, we're getting a hit with 17:01 that. And then not regularly 17:03 breathing fresh air. Here at Weimar we've got 17:07 these beautiful pine trees exuding negative ions, just 17:09 breathing that in can help in regards to depression. 17:14 The third category is circadian rhythm. 17:17 This has to do with our sleep-wake cycle and our 17:20 regularity. The more irregular we are in 17:22 schedule, the more that is a blow to the brain. 17:25 The brain likes a regular regimented schedule and the 17:30 best circadian rhythm as far as optimal performance for 17:34 the brain is early to bed, early to rise. 17:37 You make more melatonin and it's one of the reasons why 17:41 almost across the board successful business people 17:44 tend to be early-to-bed, early-to-rise people. 17:48 Highly successful. The only exception to that is 17:50 the entertainment industry and those individuals, of 17:53 course, have much higher rates of depression, but 17:56 they're late-nighters just because of their occupation. 17:59 The fourth category after circadian rhythm is 18:05 nutrition. What we are putting into our 18:07 body actually gets turned into neurotransmitters. 18:10 And so there's a lot to nutrition and the brain and a 18:15 lot to the typical American diet. 18:18 It's short in omega-3, not high in tryptophan and 18:21 carbohydrates to the degree to make enough dopamine and 18:24 norepinephrine and serotonin. And so we really do a good 18:28 nutritional analysis on our patients and change that 18:31 factor. Fifth has to do with 18:34 addiction hits. If you're addicted to any 18:37 substance or non-substance, be it gambling, pornography, 18:42 alcohol, any addiction can actually be a setup for 18:46 depression. Not in and of itself causing 18:50 it, but if you have three other causes and that, it's 18:53 going to tide you over into rather severe depression. 18:57 JB: Let's touch on these remaining two or three or 18:59 four just quickly. NN: In regards to our social 19:02 situation, it can have a role to play. 19:05 In regards to medical conditions, like thyroid, 19:08 that can have a role to play. In regards to genetics, that 19:13 can also have a role to play. JB: Dr. Nedley, who fits the 19:17 profile of the typical depression sufferer? 19:22 NN: Well, you know, that profile is so broad. 19:25 It really is. Very likely your next door 19:27 neighbor. It's probably someone you're 19:29 working with. In fact, chances are, not 19:33 just chances, it's actually basically a 100% chance that 19:37 you know someone that has depression. 19:40 Any viewer knows someone that has depression or they have 19:43 depression themselves. That's how common it is. 19:45 JB: Speaking stereotypically, I admit I'm doing this, you 19:49 know, I'm thinking depression, a kid with black 19:51 clothing and long stringy hair who mopes around sitting 19:54 in a corner and whatever, but it could just as well be the 19:57 lady next door in the business suit who's taking 20:00 the bus to work. NN: Exactly. 20:02 Yeah, both of them could have depression. 20:04 I mean, antidepressants are the number one selling 20:05 category of drugs today and they're flying off shelves in 20:11 pharmacies. Anyone who works at a 20:13 pharmacy sees all sorts of people, even professional 20:16 people, people with suits and ties that appear to have some 20:20 level of success taking these in order to feel like they 20:25 can function. JB: Depression even goes so 20:27 far as to wreak havoc with a person's relationship with 20:29 God, doesn't it? NN: Oh, absolutely. 20:32 Yeah, I mean, because of what it does to the frontal lobe, 20:34 the area of spirituality and morality and the will, it's a 20:37 major threat to the spiritual part. 20:40 Now that's not saying that you can't run into depression 20:42 if you're a spiritual person. We know from Elijah, Elijah 20:49 was a very spiritual person and very connected with God 20:53 and believed his Word, but slipped into very severe 20:57 depression for good reasons. JB: That's interesting, isn't 21:00 it. Fervent, committed, faithful 21:02 believers in Jesus can suffer serious depression. 21:06 NN: Yes, they can. JB: And can we say through no 21:09 fault of their own? What I mean is they're not 21:11 bad people, they didn't give up on God, they just fell 21:13 into some of these situations that lead to depression. 21:16 NN: Yeah. And they did it ignorantly, 21:18 you know. In Elijah's situation, he 21:21 didn't realize what he was doing to lead 21:24 himself into it. JB: We've got other people in 21:27 the Bible, too, suffering from depression? 21:28 NN: Yeah. Saul suffered from depression 21:30 and Saul had definite reasons. 21:32 Unfortunately he went through a therapeutic program but he 21:34 never took care of the underlying distorted 21:38 thoughts. That's another characteristic 21:40 of virtually every depressed individual. 21:41 They have thoughts on the surface that appear valid, 21:44 but when we actually delve into them, they are 21:49 irrational, just plain wrong, and twisted thinking is a 21:52 major cause of suffering. And that was true with Saul, 21:55 it was true with Elijah, he had twisted thinking. 21:58 It was true with Solomon. JB: Tell me about Solomon. 22:01 NN: Well, Solomon tried to do everything that would 22:04 experience pleasure and make him happy. 22:07 So he tried alcohol, he tried opium, he tried pornography, 22:11 had live pornography. In fact, he said, anything 22:14 that anyone else was doing where it looked like they 22:17 were having fun he wanted to do it. 22:19 And he said, therefore he hated life and it brought him 22:21 to despair. And so he got into the 22:24 culture of today. One of the reasons why we 22:27 have so much depression and that's why he wrote the book 22:29 Ecclesiastes was to warn young people to not go where 22:32 he went, because it's going to lead to problems. 22:35 JB: Strange isn't it? You mentioned this before. 22:37 So much in the world that offers us fun and a thrill 22:40 and a good time and distractions, and yet we're 22:43 more depressed than we've ever been. 22:45 What? Is it true? 22:46 Are we more depressed than we've ever been? 22:48 NN: Absolutely. More depressed than we've 22:49 ever been. JB: God has a way out, yes? 22:51 NN: Absolutely. JB: Okay. 22:53 Tell me a little bit about what the Bible says God's 22:57 willing to do in a person's life to bring him back to 22:59 where he wants him to be? NN: Well, he is willing to 23:02 change disappointment into appointment. 23:05 And there are steps to get there. 23:07 JB: Okay, now ... sorry, I'm jumping in here. 23:09 In your Depression Recovery Seminar you use that very 23:11 phrase. NN: Absolutely. 23:14 JB: Tell me about that. NN: From disappointment to 23:15 appointment. And we actually study, in 23:17 order to get the frontal lobe going, we study the book of 23:20 Daniel. Daniel's revered by the Jews, 23:23 revered by the Muslims, revered by Christians. 23:26 Even secular individuals. Isaac Newton was very 23:29 interested in Daniel, and every story, every chapter in 23:33 Daniel starts out with a disappointment, ends with an 23:35 appointment. And there's a spiritual key 23:38 that transforms it from one to the other. 23:41 And that's part of the therapeutic program that we 23:43 put people on. JB: How important do you 23:45 think the Bible itself plays, how important a role does it 23:49 play bringing people out of depression into the place God 23:53 wants them to be? NN: Well I think it plays a 23:56 very important role, because of that spiritual nature that 23:59 we have in the frontal lobe of the brain. 24:02 And so it plays a crucial role. 24:04 Yes, you can get rid of depression without it, but 24:07 you can also get rid of depression far faster and 24:10 also far more comprehensively when we have that spiritual 24:13 part intact, because that also gives us the ability, 24:17 the power to be able to do things that we don't want to 24:22 do now. We may not want to go out and 24:24 exercise. We may not want to eat foods 24:27 that are high in omega-3. We may not want to get the 24:29 light therapy. Depressed people tend to not 24:31 be very motivated people. But when that spiritual part 24:34 is there, the motivation can come and they can start 24:38 making significant changes in their life for the better. 24:42 JB: Now, we talked about some of the things that cause 24:45 depression and we talked about some of those danger 24:48 areas that you identified several of them. 24:52 What should a person do who feels that he or she might be 24:55 dealing with depression? NN: Well I would recommend 24:57 that they maybe go to our website, take the test. 25:00 We have a little test online that can tell them if they 25:03 have depression, anxiety, and it can also tell them which 25:06 one of those 10 categories of hits or multiple hits are 25:09 active in them, and then get the resources and get on the 25:13 program that will reverse it. JB:Dr. Nedley, thanks for 25:17 joining me today. NN: Oh, it's been great. 25:18 JB: Friends, thank you for joining me, too. 25:20 Depression is a serious, serious issue and it's so 25:23 serious that it can even get in between a person and God. 25:27 I don't want that going on in your life and if you know 25:30 somebody else who is at risk for that, then now you've got 25:33 tools to help that person get to the place that God wants 25:36 them to be, depression free and healthy and thriving in 25:40 the Lord. Dr. Nedley, let's pray 25:42 together and pray for the many people, not only 25:44 suffering depression, but who are able to go and be agents 25:48 of change in the lives of other people. 25:50 Let's pray. Our Father in heaven, I thank 25:53 you that in your presence there is fullness of joy. 25:56 But owing to a variety of factors there are many people 26:00 who are not there and depression is holding them 26:03 down. Dear Lord, I pray that you 26:05 would break those bonds and set people free. 26:10 Free to find joy and hope and wholeness in Jesus. 26:14 We pray in Jesus' name, Amen. NN: Amen. 26:24 Our free offer for you this week is a DVD produced by 26:28 Dr. Nedley on the topic of depression. 26:31 If you or someone you love is struggling with depression 26:34 I encourage you to call us today and order this free DVD. 26:39 Now please note that this offer is limited to the supply 26:42 on hand. Our toll-free number is 26:44 1-800-253-3000. Ask for the 26:48 "free depression DVD". Or write to It Is Written 26:53 PO Box 6, Chattanooga, Tennessee, 37401 26:57 and we'll mail mail a copy to your address in North America. 27:00 It Is Written is a faith-based ministry and your support makes 27:04 it possible for us to share God's Good News with the world. 27:08 Your tax-deductible gift can be sent to the address on the 27:11 screen. Or through our website at 27:13 ItIsWritten.com. Thank you for your continued 27:16 prayerful support. Again, our toll-free number is 27:19 800-253-3000, ask for the "free depression DVD". 27:25 And our web address is: itiswritten.com 27:31 David wrote that in God's presence there is fullness 27:34 of joy and there is no question God wants you 27:38 and me to experience his joy today. 27:41 Thanks for joining me today. Please do join me next time for 27:45 part 2 of my discussion with Dr. Nedley on this important 27:48 subject of depression. Until then, please remember, 27:53 It is written: "Man shall not live by bread 27:56 alone but by every word that proceeds from the mouth of God." 28:04 [sweeping orchestra music] |
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