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Scriptural Solutions: Living a Balanced Life

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00:37 JB: This is It Is Written. I'm John Bradshaw.
00:39 Thanks for joining me today. When you come to the Bible,
00:43 you come face to face with the God of heaven.
00:46 A God who is intimately concerned with what's
00:49 going on here, on the earth. God is not an absentee landlord;
00:52 He didn't just wind the earth up like a clock and leave it
00:55 to run and come back when the alarm finally rings.
00:58 God loves this world so much that the Bible says
01:01 He gave His only begotten Son, so that those of us
01:05 who believe in Him should not perish but
01:07 would be separated from sin, joined to Him,
01:11 and receive everlasting life. My guest today is
01:14 Dr. David DeRose, a doctor of internal medicine
01:18 and a doctor of preventive medicine.
01:20 He comes to us from Compass Health Consultants
01:23 in Northern California. Dr. DeRose,
01:25 thanks for joining me today. DD: Great to be with you, John.
01:27 JB: Jesus came to this earth, the Bible says,
01:30 to give us a more abundant life. Now, for some people that means
01:34 all of one thing and little of anything else.
01:36 But the abundant life that Jesus came to give us was
01:42 balanced life, wasn't it. A balanced life.
01:46 DD: It's interesting you should mention that, because as I
01:48 read through the Gospel of Mark, for example, I see Jesus very
01:52 concerned that we not go to extremes.
01:55 Let me give you an example. In March chapter 3, Jesus is
02:00 dealing with something that I believe we deal with today,
02:03 and that is many people who take the name of Christian--
02:08 they take the name of God fearing--
02:11 they're doing a disservice to the God of heaven.
02:14 I mean, in Jesus' day, think about it.
02:19 In Mark 3, Jesus comes in contact with a man
02:25 with a withered hand. It's interesting.
02:28 The context is He's in the synagogue.
02:31 He's in a place of worship-- JB: He's right there in church.
02:33 DD: That's right. He's there in church.
02:35 And yet it says, in verse 2, that those who were there
02:40 were watching Him closely, whether He would heal this man
02:45 on the Sabbath so that they would accuse Him.
02:48 The religious leaders don't have a balanced Christian experience.
02:52 They're so focused on "the rules of religious living"
02:56 that they're missing out on what's happening.
02:59 The real drama is this man's physical need.
03:01 JB: They weren't seeing his need anymore, they were so out of
03:04 balance that all they could do was think about circling the
03:08 wagons and defending the rules of the day.
03:13 DD: In the beginning, God gave the Sabbath
03:15 as a day of celebration, a day of rejoicing
03:18 in what God had done. It was humanity's first day,
03:21 their first full day was the Sabbath.
03:23 All they could do is rejoice in not what they had de,
03:26 but what the creator had graciously given them.
03:30 JB: After all, He gave it as a day or rest,
03:32 a day of rejuvenation, a day of fellowship,
03:34 a day of worship. A day off.
03:36 Who doesn't want a day off? DD: But the amazing thing is,
03:39 I think a lot of the reaction, John, goes back
03:42 to the same mentality that Jewish leaders had.
03:45 And they said, "I don't want to be bound about by something."
03:48 This man is bound on the Sabbath.
03:51 And what's amazing is what Jesus does.
03:53 He says, "Is it lawful on the Sabbath to do good or to do
03:58 evil, to save life or to kill." It says the leaders
04:02 remained silent. JB: They couldn't find it within
04:05 themselves to speak the truth because, well,
04:10 they couldn't handle that. DD: It says Jesus looked
04:12 around at them with anger. But His words, that He speaks,
04:18 are words of healing, because as that man stretches out his hand,
04:21 it says he stretched it out and it was made whole
04:24 like the other. Jesus, on the Sabbath, is saying
04:27 this is what Sabbath is about. This is what fellowship with Me
04:31 is about. If you think religion is a bunch
04:34 of rules and restrictions, look at Me,
04:37 the God of the Sabbath. JB: And Jesus said,
04:40 "If you've seen me, you've seen the Father."
04:43 DD: That's right. JB: So if you really want
04:44 to know what God is like, look at Jesus.
04:46 The Sabbath today, as part of this overall subject of living a
04:50 balanced Christian life, is there evidence that it's
04:54 actually good for you? DD: This is amazing.
04:58 Researchers, the Ansons, in Israel
05:02 looked at this question. They were looking more broadly,
05:06 they were trying to look over a period of 10 years,
05:08 a full decade, looking at everyone
05:11 living in Israel. And they were asking a question:
05:15 Would they see any rhythmicity to death rates?
05:20 Would there be times of year during the Day of Atonement,
05:22 Yom Kippur. Maybe the death rate would
05:24 go down or it would go up. Would there be any relationship
05:27 to the weekly Sabbath, for example.
05:28 So they're looking at this. Ten years of time,
05:31 they analyze it. Computer analysis, published
05:33 in the medical literature. They titled their study
05:37 "Death Rests a While." What they found is that on the
05:44 Sabbath, from sundown Friday to sundown Saturday,
05:50 the Bible Sabbath, death rates plummet.
05:55 But not in everyone. You see, just like Sunday is the
06:00 day of rest in many places in the world, it's a day off,
06:03 it's a holiday for everyone regardless of what their
06:06 religious beliefs are-- at the time they wee doing this,
06:09 the day of rest in Israel was Saturday.
06:12 So whether you were a Jew or a Palestinian, you were off work
06:16 on that seventh day. So they asked a question:
06:18 Well, is it just a phenomenon of people not working?
06:22 No drop in death rates for the Palestinians.
06:26 JB: Only for those people who were observing the Sabbath from
06:29 a spiritual point of view, as an expression
06:32 of their relationship with God. DD: Whether that's the whole
06:36 explanation, or even the secular Jews that were still bonding
06:39 in community on that day. Because, when they wrote the
06:42 article in the medical journal they didn't make a big
06:45 point about the spirituality of the day,
06:47 but its social connectedness. And so it's quite interesting.
06:51 Also, you'll find this interesting, John.
06:53 The young children, less than 5 years of age,
06:57 they had no decrease in mortality.
07:01 So presumably only those that could fully appreciate what this
07:06 day of rest meant got the benefit.
07:08 JB: Sabbath rest is just part of rest as a whole.
07:12 It's important that people who are wanting to be well
07:15 physically and spiritually and emotionally take time to rest.
07:19 DD: That's right. JB: How important is rest?
07:21 DD: Well, rest is hugely important.
07:23 Most of the research we see is on daily rest.
07:27 Getting that adequate sleep, which for most people is seven
07:30 to eight hours, maybe eight and a half hours in some cases.
07:32 Even more sleep than that may be deleterious, but many of us are
07:36 short-changing ourselves on sleep.
07:39 It's messing up our hormonal rhythms, ramping up
07:42 stress hormone levels, increasing rates of diabetes,
07:45 high blood pressure, heart disease,
07:46 heart rhythm problems, mental health issues.
07:48 The list goes on and on. JB: Except, you know someone's
07:51 going to say, oh but I'm a night person, and I find that
07:54 once the kids go to bed and it's 10:30 at night,
07:56 I'm productive until 2 in the morning, and then I've got
07:58 to get up at 6 and go to work. DD: Well, there's just as few
08:01 interruptions early in the morning as there are
08:02 late at night. And the interesting thing is if
08:05 you look at hormonal rhythms in the body, like melatonin
08:08 and growth hormone-- which are two of
08:10 the hormones that restore us from the wear and tear of the
08:13 day-- those hormones are made best early in the night.
08:17 So getting to bed before midnight seems to have some
08:20 unique benefits. JB: Excellent.
08:22 So if we're living a balanced life, we've got to get rest.
08:24 And God built into our religious experience rest, when He wrote
08:28 the Ten Commandments. DD: That's right.
08:29 JB: Okay, in a moment let's talk about this idea of a balance
08:33 being moderation in all things. Don't go away.
08:35 I'll be back with Dr. DeRose; we'll have more
08:37 in just a moment.
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09:04 JB: There were some fixtures in the life of Jesus that enabled
09:06 Him to stay connected to His Father and His faith.
09:09 One of them is mentioned in Luke 4:16.
09:12 "And he came to Nazareth where he had been brought up,
09:15 and as his custom was, he went into the synagogue
09:17 on the Sabbath day and stood up for to read."
09:20 The weekly Sabbath rest was important to Jesus.
09:23 But these days it's more common for people to reduce the Sabbath
09:26 to an hour, or a morning. The Bible says weekly Sabbath
09:29 rest is a memorial of Jesus' creative power
09:33 and His power to recreate. And it's also good for you.
09:36 For Jesus, it was indispensable, and not simply because
09:40 He was Jewish. Jesus saw the blessing of that
09:43 weekly time with God and the benefit of stepping back
09:45 from the busyness of life. And that's something that's
09:48 good for all of us. I'm John Bradshaw
09:51 for It Is Written. Let's live today by every word.
09:58 JB: This is It Is Written. I'm John Bradshaw.
10:00 Thanks for joining me today. My guest today is
10:02 Dr. David DeRose. We're talking about balance in
10:05 the Christian experience, and looking at how that balance
10:08 promotes physical and spiritual health.
10:11 A moment ago I said that I would challenge this idea that some
10:15 people have that moderation means a little of everything,
10:19 or not overdoing it in certain areas of our life.
10:23 Now, we can see-- and you mentioned a moment ago--
10:27 getting the right amount of rest means getting enough
10:29 and not too much. Too much is bad for you.
10:31 But how about when people say, "Well, I drink, but not a lot.
10:37 Everything in moderation. Just a little,
10:39 I'm a social drinker perhaps." Everybody would acknowledge, too
10:43 much alcohol bad for a person. But how much is too much?
10:47 DD: If you have an addictive relationship with something,
10:49 whether it nicotine or alcohol, pretty clear-cut that your
10:54 best path to success-- and some people would say
10:56 your only path to success-- is making a complete
11:00 break with the things that were pulling you down.
11:03 But beyond that, we can talk about things like
11:06 alcohol as well as other things that are often considered
11:09 popular in "moderation" that have some downsides
11:12 that most people are totally ignoring.
11:14 JB: What are the downsides about alcohol that people
11:17 are overlooking? DD: Well one, when it comes to
11:19 alcohol, is actually its risk of malignancy.
11:23 Cancer rates are clearly linked to even moderate drinking.
11:27 Classic scenario is breast cancer in women.
11:30 We're talking about a few drinks a week measurably increasing the
11:34 risk of breast cancer in women. JB: That's a significant thing
11:37 because there are all kinds of women who would think it's okay
11:39 to have a little wine here or there, or one drink a day,
11:42 and yet a few drinks a week raise measurably the risk
11:46 of breast cancer. DD: It's not just
11:47 a women's issue. Not all that long ago,
11:51 a huge European study called EPIC,
11:53 the European Perspective Investigation into Cancer and
11:56 Nutrition looked into alcohol intake and cancer risk.
12:00 And in the report the author said, in so many words,
12:04 there is no safe level of alcohol consumption
12:08 when it comes to cancer. JB: Now,
12:10 people think about nicotine. There are few people who would
12:14 say, "Well, a little isn't going to hurt you."
12:16 But evidently there are some. DD: Well, there are some
12:19 actual benefits to nicotine. For example, we know that people
12:23 that use nicotine have less of a serious inflammatory bowel
12:28 condition known as chronic ulcerative colitis.
12:31 JB: I wasn't expecting you to talk about benefits of nicotine,
12:33 being a physician and all, but that's fascinating.
12:36 DD: But let me tell you the flip side.
12:37 JB: But the flip side of that is--
12:39 DD: There's another serious inflammatory bowel condition
12:41 that is more pervasive, affects more of the bowel,
12:44 than ulcerative colitis. That just affects the colon.
12:47 There's something called Crohn's disease.
12:49 It is also related to nicotine, but its risk is increased.
12:54 So, I don't know of any gastroenterologists,
12:57 intestinal specialists, that are recommending
12:59 as a preventive to use nicotine. Of course, it's a risk factor
13:03 for gastritis and ulcers and other things as well.
13:06 The point here simply is this, John: If we have a myopic
13:10 enough vision, and I suffer from myopia-- nearsightedness--
13:14 but if we apply that problem to our look at certain lifestyle
13:20 factors we could say, oh yeah, there's some good in this.
13:23 But we don't want to settle for that, we want to look at
13:25 the big picture. JB: It seems that every time you
13:28 turn around you hear about the benefits of drinking red wine.
13:31 Tell me about these so-called benefits and
13:33 where the benefit really is. DD: Well, go back to Europe.
13:36 The Oxford vegetarian study. Looking at people
13:39 on a healthy diet, zero heart benefits from
13:45 moderate alcohol consumption. Nothing. No benefit.
13:48 Now, having said that, in America if you look at a person
13:51 on the average phytochemically depleted diet--
13:56 in plain English, that means they're not eating
13:58 enough fruits and vegetables. There are things in alcoholic
14:02 beverages that have benefit. After all, every alcoholic
14:06 beverage I know is made from a plant that God gave us.
14:09 Okay? JB: That's right.
14:11 DD: So there's some good things in it.
14:12 So if you're not eating enough fruits and vegetables, there's
14:14 some evidence that moderate alcohol consumption--
14:17 if you're sure you can keep it moderate-- might decrease
14:20 your risk of heart disease. But it will still increase your
14:23 risk of high triglycerides and high blood pressure and cancer
14:27 and gastrointestinal problems and cirrhosis and mental
14:30 health issues. JB: And so there's benefit on
14:31 the one hand and real problems on the other.
14:34 DD: And the benefit is only if you're on a poor lifestyle.
14:37 So I tell patients, and I tell people when I'm lecturing.
14:40 I say, "You don't want to be on a poor lifestyle so that
14:42 alcohol would help you." JB: Right.
14:44 Now, there's something that many people aren't getting enough of.
14:46 Lots of people are getting too much alcohol, but if you're
14:49 looking to live a balanced life many people are not getting
14:51 enough exercise. You can't really say,
14:54 "Well, I got my five minutes of exercise to day."
14:57 But how do we get enough exercise when we're just
14:59 too busy to get exercise. What do you do?
15:01 DD: I tell people, look at exercise as an investment.
15:05 And it pays you interest and dividends right away.
15:10 You're going to be more productive if you take 30
15:13 minutes out of your day-- I mean,
15:15 you may need to work up to it, I mean 30 minutes
15:17 may be too much for someone-- but if you work up
15:20 to getting significant amounts of exercise on a daily basis,
15:23 your mind will be clearer, your energy level
15:25 will be better, you will be more productive.
15:27 You're not wasting time in exercise,
15:29 you're investing time. JB: What are the best forms of
15:31 exercise a person can get? DD: Probably the single best
15:34 category of exercise, looking broadly
15:36 at the literature, is useful work.
15:39 Doing it outdoors is preferable. So, getting out in the garden,
15:44 chopping wood, pushing a lawn mower,
15:47 these things engage the mind,
15:49 they have a level of rest and stress relief that's not
15:53 afforded by walking on that treadmill while you're
15:56 watching CNN. JB: Walking on the treadmill
15:58 is going to be okay, right? DD: It's okay.
16:01 It gives you benefit. JB: Anaerobic exercise
16:03 that you get, that's all right. DD: It gives you
16:05 aerobic exercise. JB: Aerobic rather,
16:07 not anaerobic. But the very best,
16:09 what I'm hearing you say-- and we've discussed this
16:11 before-- is exercise that engages or benefits
16:16 the mind as well as the body. And that's a concept that's
16:20 foreign to a lot of people. Exercise where your mind is
16:23 distracted from the stressors of daily life and is connected to
16:28 those things that are going to give you a mental and an
16:30 emotional rest as well. DD: But it goes beyond that,
16:33 because not only are you distracted from problem.
16:37 When you're done with a 30-minute session on the
16:39 treadmill and you look back at the treadmill,
16:42 nothing's changed. But when you look at that
16:45 unchopped wood, and you see a pile of chopped wood;
16:48 when you see the plants planted in the garden,
16:50 there's a sense of accomplishment and fulfillment
16:53 that you don't get with the other forms of exercise.
16:55 JB: Right. So being balanced,
16:57 exercise should benefit you physically and emotionally
17:02 and ultimately spiritually. Correct?
17:04 DD: Yes. And many people have found that
17:06 some of their best thinking, whether it's spiritual or
17:09 creative work, happens when they're out engaged,
17:12 doing something. JB: Somebody that's
17:14 overweight-- and they know they are;
17:15 morbidly obese; just big, big big--
17:18 what do they do? Where do they begin?
17:20 What should they do in order to regain their health and live
17:24 a balanced life? DD: One of the things that Jesus
17:26 said to a woman who was overcome with a sense of sin was
17:31 "Neither do I condemn you." And I think,
17:35 in the Christian world, we have this blessing of
17:39 realizing that no matter what we look like, our acceptance
17:43 with Jesus isn't the issue. If we start from that
17:47 perspective, that can empower us.
17:49 Because many people are so pressed down.
17:52 I mean, obesity is one of those things that you can't hide
17:55 from and everyone sees it. So, if we start treating people
17:59 as Jesus treated them, and if we see ourselves as Jesus sees us,
18:05 this can free us to embrace lifestyle change,
18:09 not as a burden but as a blessing.
18:12 JB: Instead of a radical change in what you eat, you might just
18:16 want to start making incremental healthy changes so that you get
18:18 to the place where what you eat isn't packing on the pounds,
18:21 but it's helping you take pounds off.
18:24 DD: I often tell people, I would rather them
18:26 make a few small changes that they plan to stick with
18:30 for the rest of their life than to make a bunch of huge
18:33 changes that they have no intention of embracing
18:37 on a lifelong basis. JB: And I would encourage
18:39 someone to do this: to claim the promises of God.
18:41 In Philippians it says, "It is God who works in you,
18:46 both to will and to do for his good pleasure."
18:48 So when we're thinking about living a balanced life,
18:50 no matter where we're starting from, it's possible to do
18:52 because Christ is with us. A balanced life.
18:55 God's gift to you. This is what He offers you,
18:58 and it's going to be productive and blessed.
19:01 I'll have more with Dr. David DeRose
19:03 in just a moment.
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19:14 JB: The Bible is known for its power to transform lives
19:17 spiritually, but does it offer insight for physical
19:21 transformation as well? Dr. David DeRose,
19:24 a board-certified specialist in both internal medicine
19:27 and preventive medicine, thinks it does.
19:30 He shares his perspectives in an eight-part series called
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20:39 JB: Thanks for joining me today on It Is Written.
20:42 God wants us to live a balanced life.
20:44 That's not a life that says well a little bit of everything's
20:47 okay; but more of the good, less of the bad
20:51 until it's all of Jesus living His life in you.
20:54 That's the right balance. Now, Dr. David DeRose,
20:57 I'm so grateful you're here with me today.
20:59 And I just want to ask, what's the role of faith
21:01 in God, or trust in divine power,
21:03 in living a healthy, balanced life?
21:05 DD: Well, one of the big benefits is actually where
21:07 our focus is. You know, we mentioned earlier
21:10 in this account in Mark 3 about how it's said that Jesus looked
21:14 around at the religious leaders with anger.
21:19 The reason I singled that out is many people in Christian circles
21:22 haven't heeded Paul's admonition where he says,
21:26 "Be ye angry and sin not." We often label things,
21:30 in the Christian environment, apart from how God
21:33 labels them. When we see that Jesus had
21:37 emotions, real human emotions, He was angry at people who
21:41 weren't embracing God's values. For us to have such emotions
21:47 is not wrong. This actually may be showing
21:50 that our heart is beating in harmony with God.
21:53 And so as we have a trusting, faith walk with Jesus,
21:58 we will begin to see things with His perspective.
22:01 And those things that sometimes we criticize ourselves for or
22:04 that others would be critical of us over, we can actually see
22:09 that we're actually walking with Jesus, sharing His burden
22:13 for the world. JB: A lot of social issues today
22:15 are looked at very relativistically.
22:17 Well, that's your opinion. This is my opinion.
22:19 My opinion is shaped by this and that.
22:21 But really, in life and in life's great issues, what we're
22:24 striving to do is to see things as He sees them.
22:27 How does God see a certain thing.
22:30 What's the role of prayer in a healthy life, a balanced life?
22:33 DD: Well, you can't get away from the subject of prayer
22:35 in Mark's Gospel. We've been talking about that
22:37 off and on for some time, you and I, in our dialogues.
22:41 And, in March chapter 1, verse 35.
22:44 And, what I love about Mark's Gospel is it doesn't start
22:47 with Jesus' birth. I mean, that's important,
22:50 but it starts with the power of the Word.
22:52 John the Baptist is preaching and Jesus Himself realizes
22:56 the power of the Word. God's communication.
22:59 And so in Mark 1:35, Jesus is taking Himself away from all the
23:05 pressures, coming into the presence of His Father.
23:09 It's a powerful example for me. For all of us.
23:12 That if I want to see with Jesus' eyes, before-- I mean,
23:16 today it's so easy. You get up, you can have all
23:18 kinds of words bombarding your mind.
23:20 You can read all kinds of things.
23:22 Focus on that relationship with Jesus.
23:25 JB: Ultimately, in making decisions to live a balanced
23:29 life we have to come face to face with the idea that our
23:32 choice must be surrendered to God.
23:37 DD: It's true. And what's interesting to me in
23:39 the Gospels is Jesus, when He's in the midst of people who are
23:44 making repeatedly bad choices-- I'm thinking of the disciples.
23:49 They kept focusing what was in it for them.
23:52 You know, who was going to be the greatest.
23:54 But Jesus didn't abandon them. But they stayed in communion
24:01 with the Master. So if I'm focusing,
24:04 like the disciples, on walking with Jesus,
24:06 even though my decisions may be terrible.
24:08 Jesus may have to knock me over the head.
24:10 You know, say, what are you doing?
24:13 He's going to get my attention sooner or later.
24:15 I'm molded into His image as I spend time with Him.
24:19 JB: Yeah. There are some wonderful
24:21 verses in the Bible. I mentioned one before, "It is
24:25 God who works in you both to will and to do
24:27 for his good pleasure." That was Philippians 2:13.
24:30 "Don't you know that to whom you yield yourself servants to obey,
24:33 his servants you are to whom you obey, whether of sin
24:36 unto death or obedience unto righteousness."
24:38 You read that in Romans 6. "You are the servant of who
24:40 you choose to serve." "I'm crucified with Christ,
24:44 nevertheless I live. Not I but Christ lives in me."
24:49 And if I'm looking to live a balanced life, to eat better or
24:54 right, to pray as God would have me pray, to spend time in the
24:59 Word of God, to rest, even to enjoy Sabbath rest with God and
25:04 get my life kind of right-side up, my will must be
25:10 yielded to His will. You know, at the beginning of
25:13 Daniel 1, they find themselves down there in Babylon.
25:17 The king serves them the food. "Oh, no, not for me."
25:19 But before that, he had purposed in his heart that he wouldnít
25:22 defile himself with a portion of the king's meat.
25:25 Purposing in our heart, in our minds,
25:27 that it would be God's will being done and not ours.
25:30 DD: It's a powerful concept, because Daniel's secret was he
25:34 realized his body was a temple. That word "defile,"
25:37 where Daniel said he would not defile himself.
25:39 You don't defile the dirt. You can only defile something
25:42 that's holy. Daniel is using sanctuary
25:45 or temple language. And so Paul picks up on this
25:49 theme, when he's writing to the Corinthian church, speaking
25:52 about our bodies being a temple. If I realize that, John,
25:55 then this is going to help me when it comes to making
25:58 those good decisions. I'm just not my own.
26:00 Like you said, I'm bought with a price.
26:03 JB: We belong to God. We want His will to be done,
26:06 not just so a bunch of healthy people can end up in the lake of
26:10 fire, but that with out healthy body we'll have a clear mind;
26:15 we'll hear the Word of God; we'll know God as He wants us to
26:17 know Him; and we'll be His not just now but forever.
26:22 And forever's going to be here sooner than we think.
26:24 DD: Right. JB: Dr. DeRose, thanks.
26:26 It's been a pleasure, a real joy.
26:27 I'm grateful for your being here.
26:29 Thanks for joining me today. DD: Thank you.
26:31 JB: And before we go, we'd like to pray with you and ask that
26:33 God would give you the blessing of a balanced life, and that's a
26:36 life lived completely in God. Real balance is found in an
26:41 entire surrender to Him. Let's pray that we can
26:44 experience that ourselves. Let's pray.
26:46 ♪ [Gentle Music] ♪ Our Father in heaven,
26:48 how grateful we are that You offer us
26:50 a more abundant life, not just in this world
26:55 but also in the world to come. We look forward to that time
26:58 being here soon. Until it is, let our mind be
27:01 Yours, our hearts Yours, our faculties Yours.
27:05 And some of us, we struggle so much and getting it right just
27:08 seems like a forlorn dream. But no, Lord, that cannot be.
27:12 Take possession of us. Connect our weakness to Your
27:15 strength; our unwillingness to Your willingness.
27:18 Make us what we can be in Christ and give us faith to believe
27:23 in You, each moment of every day.
27:26 We thank You today, and we pray in Jesus' name.
27:31 Amen,. DD: Amen.
27:34 ♪ [Musical Interlude] ♪
27:48 ♪ [Theme Music]] ♪ JB: Thanks for joining me today.
27:50 I'm looking forward to seeing you again next time.
27:52 Until then, remember: It Is Written:
27:55 Man shall not live by bread alone,
27:58 but by every word that proceeds
28:01 from the mouth of God. ♪ Theme Music Swells] ♪


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