It Is Written

The Hot Topic Of Hell

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00:07 It has stood the test of time, God's book, the Bible,
00:16 still relevant in today's complex world.
00:23 It Is Written written, sharing hope around the
00:33 globe.
00:35 Thanks for joining me today.
00:37 I'm John Bradshaw - and this is It Is Written.
00:42 A number of years ago I met a young woman named Mary Ellen.
00:45 Standing at the door of her apartment in a small,
00:47 Southern town where I was at the time, I noticed right
00:50 away that she was ...
00:52 she was different.
00:53 I wasn't sure exactly how, but she was different.
00:58 The more I spoke to her, the more I noticed.
01:00 I began to notice that her hair was different.
01:03 I don't mean weird, I don't mean outlandish, it was just
01:07 different.
01:08 Her clothes, her makeup, her jewelry, all were a little...
01:12 What's that word I'm looking for?
01:14 That's it ...different.
01:16 As we spoke, I learned that not only was she a very nice
01:19 young woman, but that Mary Ellen had been raised a
01:22 Christian.
01:23 But she said to me: "But now I don't go to church," before
01:27 adding, "Although I do, sort of."
01:31 I had to know what she meant by that, so, standing inhe
01:33 humid heat of a southern summer afternoon, I asked her
01:35 to explain.
01:36 She got right to the point.
01:38 She said "John, I was raised in a hell-fire and
01:41 brimstone-spitting [and here she named the denomination],
01:43 a hell-fire and brimstone-spitting church,
01:46 where the preacher would talk about God roasting and
01:48 toasting and torturing and frying people in hell for all
01:50 eternity - for as long as time would last.
01:53 He said again and again [this is Mary Ellen telling me] he
01:56 said again and again that people would burn and burn
01:59 and burn, and that their burning would never come to
02:01 an end."
02:02 I tell you, it was obvious Mary Ellen still felt
02:04 strongly about this.
02:05 And then she added, "So I decided that if that's what
02:07 God was like, I'd be better off without Him.
02:10 So that's why I don't go to church anymore.
02:13 And then she added, "although I do, sort of."
02:18 Mary Ellen could see the questioning in my eyes, so
02:20 she spelled things out for me nice and clearly.
02:23 "John," she said, "I'm now a witch."
02:28 Which was the first time I'd ever had someone tell me
02:30 THAT!
02:31 I glanced around to see if there was a broomstick
02:33 nearby, I mean, I really did.
02:35 But all I saw was her little red car parked out front.
02:38 "A witch?"
02:39 I said - acting like people told me that sort of thing
02:42 every day.
02:43 "Well, what kind of witch?"
02:44 She explained to me that she met with other witches at
02:46 organized services (which is why she said she 'sort of'
02:49 attended church), and told me some of the details of what
02:52 she did as a real-life, fully paid up, practicing witch.
02:56 She was bothered by the subject of hell - and she's
03:00 not the first person to have had some real questions about
03:04 hell nor is she the first person to wrestle with that
03:07 subject.
03:08 What's interesting is that came to the place where she
03:10 was SO bothered by what's actually a very common
03:13 Christian teaching that she entirely rejected the notion
03:17 of the existence of God altogether.
03:20 "God cannot possibly be like that, therefore there is no
03:23 God," she concluded.
03:25 She rejected the God of the eternally burning hell.
03:28 So my question for you is - was she right to do that, or
03:31 was she wrong?
03:33 Was she right to reject the idea that God burns people
03:36 for ever and ever?
03:37 Now, I'm not asking if you think she was right to become
03:40 a witch!
03:41 I think we know the answer to that.
03:43 But did she have a point - was she right to be repulsed
03:46 by the thought of an eternally burning hell?
03:49 Today we're going to look at this subject of hell - hell
03:51 fire.
03:52 [Sound of fire crackling] Can we know with certainty what
04:02 the Bible teaches on the subject?
04:04 As Frances Chan and Preston Sprinkle wrote in their book
04:07 "Erasing Hell" - they said "We can't afford to be wrong
04:10 about this."
04:12 A couple of years ago a well-known pastor in the
04:14 United States sparked a debate on the subject that
04:17 ended up involving some of America's theological
04:19 heavyweights.
04:20 The question being asked was, Is there a Hell?
04:24 And if there is, what's it like?
04:27 Well evidently this pastor's thinking was challenged when
04:30 someone suggested that Gandhi was burning in Hell.
04:34 So the pastor wrestled with this idea, the idea that a
04:37 person would burn in hell forever and ever and ever -
04:40 and his questions on what hell might be like - coupled
04:43 with what struck some people as a definite lack of
04:46 conclusions - got a lot of people asking a lot of
04:49 questions.
04:51 So what IS hell like?
04:54 Have you ever given that question much thought?
04:56 It seems to me that most people have at one time or
04:58 another.
04:59 In the good old days preachers (or were they the
05:02 bad old days?) ...
05:06 in the good old days preachers would do their best
05:08 to preach the hottest hell they could muster up.
05:10 Puritan preacher Jonathan Edwards's sermon "Sinner in
05:12 the Hands of an Angry God" was a classic sermon back in
05:14 the 1700s.
05:15 In that sermon he said, "The pit is prepared.
05:17 The fire is made ready.
05:19 The furnace is now hot, ready to receive them [that's the
05:22 sinners].
05:23 The flames do now rage and glow.
05:26 The glittering sword is whet, and held over them, and the
05:30 pit has opened her mouth under them...
05:32 O sinner!
05:33 Consider the fearful danger you are in!"
05:37 About two thirds of Americans believe there is a hell - but
05:41 not everyone sides with Jonathan Edwards about what
05:44 it is like.
05:45 As far back as the year 2000 US News and World Report
05:49 magazine dedicated it's cover article to the subject of
05:53 hell.
05:54 And they reported in the article that more people
05:56 believe hell to be simply an anguished state of existence
06:00 separated from God than believe in hell as a place
06:04 where people will suffer eternal fiery torments.
06:07 The article quoted Pope John Paul the second as saying
06:10 that - and I quote -- "rather than a place, hell indicates
06:14 the state of those who freely and definitively separate
06:19 themselves from God."
06:21 Now that's different to what I learned when I attended a
06:23 parochial school as a kid: we were told about a hell that
06:27 would burn forever and ever and ever.
06:30 We were told [they said it was in the Bible] that if you
06:34 were good you went to heaven forever, and if you were bad
06:36 you went to hell forever.
06:38 That's what we were told.
06:39 But a growing number of people are challenging that
06:42 idea.
06:43 So what's the truth?
06:45 We're going to examine some of the most commonly-held
06:48 views on the subject of Hell Fire.
06:51 "Those who would have us compromise the faith of our
06:54 fathers say they do it in the name of love, fellowship,
06:59 while at the same time calling us close-minded,
07:01 sectarian legalists, all those rules, and rights and
07:04 rituals ...
07:05 Where was Christ?
07:07 With fishermen, and tax collectors, dining with
07:10 sinners and publicans.
07:12 Can there be a more shining example of unity fellowship
07:15 than that?
07:16 That's coming up in just a moment.
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07:59 I'm John Bradshaw.
08:01 Thanks for joining me today on It Is Written.
08:04 So what's the truth about hell fire?
08:07 Does God really burn people in hell forever?
08:10 Maybe he doesn't burn anyone in hell?
08:13 Maybe there's no hell - maybe there is?
08:16 Whatever the truth is, we ought to be able to find out
08:18 from the Bible just what that truth of the matter is.
08:21 So let us today look at what the Bible says.
08:24 We'll also look at several commonly-held ideas about
08:27 hell.
08:28 One of them is the school of thought that is known as
08:31 Universal Reconciliation.
08:34 It suggests that everyone will ultimately be reconciled
08:37 to God and so therefore there's no need for an
08:39 eternally burning hell - or even a temporarily burning
08:41 hell.
08:43 Which isn't altogether unrelated to the suggestion
08:45 made by Pope John Paul the second.
08:47 Before he died he went on the record as saying that hell
08:50 isn't a place but a state of being and that the Bible
08:54 simply uses symbolic language when it talks about hell the
08:57 hot place.
08:59 You can understand why those ideas might appeal to people
09:03 - but do they stack up with what the Bible says?
09:06 You see, it's important for people to form their
09:08 religious beliefs based on the word of God.
09:12 There's not a lot of point simply believing whatever it
09:14 is you want to believe - especially if it isn't
09:17 accurate!
09:18 Does the Bible teach that there's no hell?
09:20 And keep this in mind as we study: what you believe about
09:23 hell essentially reveals what you believe about God.
09:28 God's character is implicated in this subject.
09:31 What does hell or one's understanding of hell say
09:35 about God?
09:37 Perhaps the first person we ought to speak to about this
09:39 is Jesus.
09:41 And here's what Jesus said in Matthew10:28.
09:46 "Do not fear those who kill the body but cannot kill the
09:48 soul.
09:49 But rather fear Him who is able to destroy both soul and
09:53 body in hell."
09:56 That sounds a lot like Jesus thought there was a hell.
09:59 Or was He just speaking metaphorically?
10:03 Descriptively?
10:04 Was Jesus merely making a point?
10:06 Well, the Greek word He used for 'hell' is the word
10:08 'Gehenna' - That's the word Jesus used when He was
10:11 referring to a place of burning.
10:14 It sounds like Jesus thought there was an actual hell.
10:19 So what if there was no hell?
10:20 Some people believe that if there was no actual place
10:23 called hell and if sinners didn't burn and burn and burn
10:26 and burn there, that that would remove the motivation
10:30 for sinners to be saved?
10:32 Well - I can see what they're getting at.
10:35 But really?
10:38 No.
10:39 Because as the Bible says, "We love him (why?) because
10:43 He first loved us," (that's 1 John 4:19) not "we love Him
10:48 because we're afraid that if we don't we're doomed!"
10:51 In 2 Corinthians 5:14 Paul wrote that "the love of
10:56 Christ compels us" - in other words, our motivation to want
11:00 to follow God and accept Jesus as our Savior doesn't
11:03 come or shouldn't come from the idea that there's a hell.
11:06 The motivation to follow Jesus comes from the love of
11:09 God.
11:10 Not from fear.
11:11 If the only reason or the main reason a person wants to
11:14 be saved is because they're afraid of what happens if
11:16 they don't, that person is missing the point just a
11:20 little bit.
11:21 I've heard that called "fire escape religion" - people
11:23 getting religion just so they can escape the fire.
11:26 But still - you'd hardly be human if you didn't have some
11:29 sort of healthy respect for the fate of the lost.
11:31 In Matthew 13 - discussing the parable of the wheat and
11:34 the tares - Jesus says this in verses 40 to 42:
11:39 "Therefore as the tares are gathered and burned in the
11:42 fire, so it will be at the end of this age.
11:46 The Son of Man will send out His angels, and they will
11:49 gather out of His kingdom all things that offend, and those
11:53 who practice lawlessness, and will cast them into the
11:56 furnace of fire.
11:58 There will be wailing and gnashing of teeth."
12:03 So could we really believe that there is no hell at all?
12:06 I'm going to leave it to you to decide that - but when you
12:09 add this to the verses in Revelation that refer to the
12:12 Lake of Fire - you can understand why so many people
12:15 think there IS a hell.
12:17 Well - what about the idea that hell burns forever?
12:20 That's a commonly-held view.
12:22 It's what I was raised to believe - and it seems the
12:26 great majority of Christians were raised to think like
12:29 that and many are raising their kids to think just the
12:32 same way.
12:33 Here's where you find people basing that view.
12:36 Passages like this one found in Revelation chapter 14.
12:41 "Then a third angel followed them, saying with a loud
12:43 voice, "If anyone worships the beast and his image, and
12:47 receives his mark in his forehead or in his hand, he
12:50 himself shall also drink of the wine of the wrath of God,
12:54 which is poured out full strength into the cup of His
12:57 indignation.
12:58 He shall be tormented with fire and brimstone in the
13:01 presence of the holy angels and in the presence of the
13:04 Lamb.
13:05 And the smoke of their torment ascends forever and
13:11 ever."
13:13 Revelation 14:9-11 There's another passage much like
13:17 this one over in chapter 20 of the Book of Revelation.
13:20 This is the traditional view, the Jonathan Edwards view and
13:23 it's taught pretty typically in Christian churches today.
13:27 Does this view present the idea that there's a hell?
13:30 Yes it does.
13:31 It suggests strongly that YES there IS a hell.
13:34 But do these verses prove that there's a hell that
13:36 burns forever?
13:39 And are there other ways to understand those texts.
13:42 One significant objection to the idea that hell burns
13:44 forever and ever and ever and ever and ever is this
13:47 question: What sort of picture of God does that
13:52 belief present?
13:53 How can God be just, some people ask, and yet burn
13:57 sinners forever?
14:00 Mary Ellen - the woman I told you about earlier - and many
14:03 others like her have been ...
14:04 have actually been turned away from faith in God
14:06 altogether by this view.
14:08 If God burned people forever...
14:12 we'd have to agree that's a very long time.
14:14 Now there have been any number of theologians who
14:17 have made the case that hell doesn't burn forever.
14:21 One of them was a Church of Christ pastor named Edward
14:24 Fudge.
14:25 When Edward Fudge was just a boy he had some experiences
14:27 that left him asking some hard questions.
14:30 A movie on Edward Fudge's life has been recently
14:33 produced.
14:34 I want you to take a look at this with me right here:
14:37 "What's going on?"
14:40 "Come sit.
14:46 You know David Hollis, don't you?"
14:48 "Sure, he's a good friend."
14:49 "Um Hum.
14:51 Well, I just got off the phone with his mother."
14:53 "What did he do?
14:57 Leave town already?"
15:00 "No.
15:01 There was a car accident."
15:05 "What happened?"
15:07 "Apparently, he lost control, I don't know, 14 near
15:10 Hagget's Creek.
15:11 His pick up flipped over into a ditch and pinned him
15:16 underneath."
15:23 "Is he okay?"
15:27 "They say he died instantly.
15:33 [silence] "I'm sorry son, I
15:41 am truly sorry."
15:44 "Where is he?"
15:45 "What?"
15:46 "Where is Davey now?"
15:50 "He's at the Curtis funeral home.
15:53 They are preparing him for services."
15:55 "It's not what I mean.
15:58 Is he in hell?
16:01 Is Davey in hell?"
16:02 [Sound of fire crackling ...]
16:11 The hot topic of hell.
16:16 According to the Bible, is there a hell, and what's it
16:20 like?
16:21 Does it burn forever?
16:22 Or is there another way to accurately understand the
16:26 reality of hell?
16:28 Before we explore this further, maybe we ought to
16:30 admit that there's a fair amount of fiction mixed in
16:32 with whatever the facts are about hell.
16:35 I remember hearing a preacher claim that hell was located
16:37 somewhere under the Bermuda Triangle.
16:40 Really?
16:41 And that's in...
16:44 what verse of the Bible, exactly?
16:47 Years ago my wife and I were driving across the top of
16:49 Idaho ...
16:50 this was several years BC (before children) and seeing
16:53 as this was also BCP (before cell phones) we stopped, we
16:57 had to stop at a payphone.
16:58 And at the payphone in Idaho I found these - well, there's
17:05 just one in my hand, but I found many of these, just
17:07 like this.
17:08 They'd been stuffed into every crack and holding place
17:12 they could possibly be stuffed into.
17:15 Someone had been out doing their missionary work and
17:17 they had distributed these tracts in the hope that some
17:19 dear soul would not want to go to hell and would instead
17:22 embrace Jesus.
17:24 Now let me read some of this to you.
17:26 I must say it may well be excerpted from a book or
17:29 something larger than this.
17:30 I would credit the source if I had any idea what the
17:32 source was.
17:33 But all I have is my little tract here.
17:37 Now, let me read some of this to you.
17:40 In this passage Jesus takes someone on a guided tour of
17:44 hell.
17:46 It is shaped like a body and is in the center of the Earth
17:49 - and it's populated by snakes and rats and evil
17:51 spirits.
17:52 (Now I would have thought that hell would have
17:54 destroyed the rats and snakes but evidently in this
17:56 scenario that's not the case, which I feel is too bad).
17:59 This tells the story of a woman in this place whose
18:02 eyes and hair and nose have all been burned out and
18:06 burned off, and who is being burned by fire as dead flesh
18:11 falls from her body.
18:12 Let me pick it up.
18:13 I'll read this to you.
18:14 Here we go.
18:15 Stay with me.
18:16 "Oh Lord, oh Lord," she cried, "I want out."
18:21 As we watched she finally got to the top of the pit with
18:24 her feet.
18:26 I thought she was going to get out when a large demon
18:28 with great wings that seemed to be broken at the top and
18:32 hung down his sides ran to her.
18:36 His color was brownish-black, and he had hair all over his
18:39 large form.
18:40 His eyes were set far back into his head, and he was
18:43 about the size of a large grizzly bear.
18:46 The demon rushed up to the woman and pushed her very
18:50 hard backward into the pit and fire.
18:52 I watched in horror as she fell.
18:56 I felt so sorry for her."
18:59 Well, you would.
19:01 Now I'm not questioning the sincerity of the dear soul
19:03 who wrote this, but let's be honest: is there any reason -
19:08 Biblically - to believe that hell is shaped like a human
19:11 body and is in the center of the Earth?
19:16 Rats and snakes and demons like grizzly bears?
19:21 Does the Bible even hint at this?
19:24 Edward Fudge was commissioned to study this subject and he
19:27 was surprised at the direction some of his studies
19:30 too him.
19:31 Watch this.
19:32 "Do you ever get tired of that job?"
19:34 "No ..
19:35 ha ha.
19:36 No, this stuff is deep.
19:37 It takes a while to get through.
19:41 But, what I am trying to do is to verify and disqualify
19:45 each of those cards up there.
19:46 Now, I started with the Old Testament issue,
19:48 traditionalists, they say that there is little or
19:50 nothing about the lost in there, but the
19:52 conditionalists think it has plenty to say.
19:54 "So what do you got?"
19:56 "Well, take a look.
19:58 These, these are all Old Testament texts.
20:02 All of them.
20:03 Now, there are dozens of them.
20:06 You use words like "cut off", "come to nothing,"
20:10 "disappear," "destroy," "perish," over here, now and
20:13 that all sounds like oblivion to me."
20:16 "Wait, what about where it says that the worm will not
20:19 die and their fire will not be quenched?
20:21 That sounds like eternal torment to me."
20:23 Where might the Bible suggest that hell burns and then
20:26 eventually burns up and stops burning because it has done
20:29 its job?
20:30 Now John 3:16 talks about a world that would perish.
20:34 Remember "For God so loved the world, he gave his only
20:36 begotten Son, that whosoever believeth in him should not
20:39 perish."
20:40 Romans 6:23 says the wages of sin is....
20:44 DEATH.
20:45 Revelation refers to the lake of fire as the "second
20:49 death".
20:50 Ezekiel 18:4 states that "the soul who sins shall die."
20:54 While the little book of Jude says Sodom and Gomorra are an
20:58 example of what those who "suffer the vengeance of
21:03 eternal fire" will get - and Sodom and Gomorra were turned
21:07 by God into ashes.
21:09 Jude says, that's the example.
21:13 So just as there are verses that some say seem to
21:15 indicate hell burns forever, and ever and ever and ever
21:19 and ever, there are other verses that seem to indicate
21:22 hell burns and eventually burns out.
21:26 And the big challenge is, "What does hell say about the
21:30 character of God?"
21:33 Quoted in that US News and World Report article I told
21:36 you about earlier, Dr Clark Pinnock suggested that a God
21:39 who would torture people for all eternity is "more nearly
21:42 like Satan than like God."
21:46 Here's what we know for sure.
21:47 If we're talking about three different views on hell, all
21:51 three of them can't possibly be right.
21:53 And we know the Bible is true - the answer must certainly
21:56 be in there.
21:57 And something else we can keep in mind is that God is
21:59 love - so our conclusions are going to have to support that
22:03 idea.
22:04 God can't be love and be a tyrant at the same time.
22:07 Nor can He be love and be so permissive that nothing
22:09 really matters and there are no consequences.
22:13 One key issue is that ultimately those who don't
22:15 choose Jesus Christ are going to be separated from Him
22:17 without the hope of everlasting life.
22:20 And wouldn't that be an enormous tragedy?
22:23 The Bible is pretty clear that there's a hell and that
22:26 some day lots of people are going to end up there.
22:29 But what kind of hell?
22:31 A no hell hell?
22:33 Well, that's not even a hell.
22:34 A hell that burns forever and ever and ever and ever?
22:38 Well, that would make God worse than Hitler.
22:41 And I know somebody said to me one day, well, God can do
22:43 that if he wanted to.
22:44 But the wonderful news is God doesn't want to.
22:47 And you know what?
22:48 We've got clear biblical evidence of that.
22:50 I'm reading from Ezekiel 28:18.
22:53 Therefore will I bring forth a fire from the midst of
22:55 thee.
22:56 It shall devour thee and I will bring thee to ashes upon
23:01 the earth in the sight of all them that behold you.
23:03 And you know what is so very interesting about that
23:05 passage?
23:06 It is that that passage, Ezekiel 28:18, is talking
23:09 about Satan.
23:11 The Bible says that God will turn Satan into ashes.
23:15 It can't get much clearer than that.
23:17 Then, Malachi 4:3, it says: "And you shall tread down the
23:22 wicked for they shall be ashes unto the soles of your
23:27 feet in the day that I shall do this sayeth the Lord of
23:30 hosts.
23:31 Now, I know somebody is going to say, no, but the Bible
23:33 says forever.
23:34 You know something?
23:35 The Bible says forever a lot about things that don't last
23:38 forever.
23:40 Jonas said he was in the belly of the fish forever,
23:42 three days and three nights.
23:44 Samuel was taken by his godly mother to be at the temple
23:47 forever.
23:48 Read that in 1 Samuel 1.
23:49 But then she said, six verses later in verse 28, that he'd
23:53 be at the temple for as long as he lived.
23:57 Forever as long as he lived.
23:59 Forever three days.
24:01 Hebrew slave.
24:02 He would serve as master forever, but they were often
24:04 released.
24:05 Forever in the context of hellfire simply means for as
24:08 long as the fire lasts, as long as the fire must burn to
24:12 do its work.
24:14 Thank God there is no burning, burning, eternally
24:18 burning, eternally burning hell.
24:20 Unfortunately, it's a myth, or should I say fortunately?
24:24 It's fortunate that it's not true.
24:26 But, it's unfortunate that so many people have been told it
24:29 is true.
24:31 The most wonderful news is that nobody needs to be lost
24:35 or burned in any kind of hell at all.
24:38 All of us can have everlasting life through
24:41 Jesus Christ, through simple faith in him, and I hope
24:45 you'll choose to have faith in Jesus One of the most
24:49 serious subjects in the Bible is the subject of hell and it
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24:55 What does the Bible really say about hell?
24:58 Is there a hell?
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26:25 Let's pray together.
26:26 Our Father in heaven, some subjects in the Bible we
26:29 wrestle with and when we find your will and your words,
26:33 sometimes we are challenged.
26:35 This whole idea of people being separated from you for
26:38 all eternity.
26:39 It's a challenging idea because it's so serious, it's
26:41 so final, it's so eternal.
26:43 Father in heaven, as I pray today, I pray that we today
26:47 would be committed to you.
26:48 Friend, would you choose Jesus today?
26:50 Would you do that?
26:51 Thank you, Father, that through faith in your son
26:54 Jesus Christ, we don't have to fear hellfire.
26:56 It's not something we even need to worry about.
26:59 I'm grateful Lord, that Jesus is our Deliver, our
27:03 deliverance.
27:04 Jesus is our Lord and our Savior.
27:08 We choose him today.
27:09 Friend, choose Jesus today.
27:11 Lord, we want to have faith in you.
27:12 We thank you for your Word.
27:14 We thank you for the gift of Salvation.
27:16 And, we pray in Jesus' name, Amen.
27:43 Thanks for joining me today and look forward
27:45 to see you next time, until then remember
27:47 "It is written Man shall not live by bread
27:50 alone, but by every word that proceeds from mouth of God."


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