Participants: Agatha Thrash (Host), , , Rhonda Clark
Series Code: HYTH
Program Code: HYTH000244
00:01 Hello! The skin,and the hair, and the
00:04 nails are right out there in front of us, so that we
00:07 can see them all the time.
00:08 When something goes wrong
00:11 we are very concerned because
00:13 it's right there in view.
00:14 We have a lot of things that we can tell you about the skin
00:18 that can help you take care of your skin, and hair, and nails,
00:23 so that you can get the very best service
00:25 from these very fine structures.
00:28 We'll be talking about some of these things in our program
00:31 today, so we hope you will join us.
00:55 Welcome to Help Yourself To Health
00:56 with Dr. Agatha Thrash of Uchee Pines Institute
01:00 and now here is your host Dr. Thrash.
01:03 I sometimes wish I had made a specialty of dermatology.
01:09 It is such a nice thing to practice.
01:13 So many people take a look at their skin
01:16 and they think,
01:17 oh my skin doesn't look nice.
01:20 Or my skin is sick in some way, or I've got a serious problem
01:25 with my skin and it might be such a problem as would cause
01:30 me to lose my life, and all of those things are appropriate
01:35 problems that we can have with the skin.
01:38 I have asked my friend, Ronda Clark, who is my colleague
01:44 at Uchee Pines to join me for today's program, and I would
01:49 like find out some of the things that you are going
01:52 to tell us about today.
01:54 I brought a couple of things to talk about,
01:56 and one that is kind of important to me.
01:58 With the growing number of people who have had
02:00 gastric bypass surgery, or who have lost a great deal of weight
02:04 You will find more interest in knowing what to do about excess
02:07 skin that remains when a person
02:09 has lost quite a bit of weight.
02:11 I have been working on a weight loss program myself, and this
02:13 is a personal concern for me, so I appreciated the research.
02:16 At first it was a little discouraging because it seems
02:19 that there is really much that can be done, once the skin has
02:22 so greatly expanded.
02:24 But I did find a few tips, and one particularly interesting
02:27 concept that I wanted to share.
02:29 It's vitally important, during weight loss process, and in the
02:33 process of maintaining that weight the next few years to
02:36 maintain a diet very high in fruits and vegetables.
02:39 These contain very essential
02:41 nutrients for our skins best health.
02:43 I also learned that,
02:46 don't even consider having any type of
02:48 of skin reduction surgery for one to two
02:51 years after your weight loss,
02:52 for during that time the skin will
02:53 continue to tighten and reshape
02:54 so you may want to hold off a little bit,
02:59 you may find that
03:00 your skin may come back nicely.
03:01 So if a person gets the surgery too soon,
03:05 they may find themselves stretching again
03:09 after the surgery is completed because with the natural
03:13 tightening that the skin can do somewhat,
03:16 it might then start stretching again.
03:19 They put themselves through a risky procedure,
03:23 and possible complications, when a little bit of time,
03:26 may have really been all that was necessary.
03:28 Of course it is important to strengthen the muscles that
03:31 are under the skin, to support the body, that the muscles can
03:34 be very toned, that they themselves are not loose.
03:37 The one most interesting fact or theory that I came across
03:41 was that of, perhaps, the person who has excess skin, that is
03:46 very loose, has not lost quite enough weight.
03:50 We tend to loose our weight from the inside part of our body
03:54 moving outwards.
03:55 If we continue to have skin that we feel hangs or sags a bit,
03:59 it may be that the skin is still containing in that subcutaneous
04:04 layer of skin, the fatty layer of skin a little to high
04:08 percentage of fat, and so the researcher was saying why don't
04:12 you try to lower the body weight maybe a few more pounds and
04:15 see if that won't help give you a much nicer appearance.
04:18 Now let me ask you something.
04:21 One time many years ago, a woman asked me if I would remove her
04:29 abdominal apron, after she had lost about 120 Ibs, and I said
04:36 no indeed, and she said, well why not, my response was
04:41 that it is a bit risky, it's not just inject the skin with
04:45 a local anesthetic and remove the excess and
04:52 sew the edges back together.
04:55 Did you research anything about that?
04:58 I didn't, other than to know
05:00 this indeed isn't just a simple procedure.
05:03 Skin reductions are now being done on all parts of the body,
05:06 the back of the arms, the legs,
05:08 buttocks, even the chest and abdomen.
05:10 But these are general anesthesia serious surgeries, where blood
05:14 loss, infection, and other complications can occur, and so
05:18 many people may think that well, you know maybe it is not as bad
05:21 as I thought, especially a year or two after the weight loss.
05:24 My sister even told me, don't worry about loose skin,
05:28 when you tell people that you have lost weight,
05:30 it gives you authenticity.
05:33 So I appreciated her comment on that.
05:35 Oh yes, well, that's certainly a very good thing.
05:37 At Uchee Pines we only do minor surgery, and I certainly do not
05:42 consider these tummy tucks, and other tucks to be minor, they
05:47 should be done with general anesthesia, and as you say.
05:52 You should not have these procedures done, until two or
05:57 three years after the weight loss is finished.
06:00 Another very good reason for that is that people who loose
06:06 weight unfortunately, sometimes gain a bit back, and so if they
06:10 have already had these procedures of removing excess
06:14 skin, then, if they gain weight again.
06:17 Then, as it was, with not allowing the skin to
06:22 reduce itself, they may also find that they need
06:25 that extra skin to expand into.
06:28 Do you have anything else that you can talk with us about.
06:32 I do. You know one of my functions at Uchee Pines is to
06:34 counsel people who call on the telephone with medical questions
06:37 and I had a telephone call from
06:39 a young woman was just desperate.
06:41 She had been beginning to grow a mustache, a beard, heavy
06:45 sideburns, some of the hair on her arms was beginning to
06:49 coursen, and darken, and she asked if there was anything to
06:52 explain this change, was there anything she could do naturally.
06:55 This condition is know as Hirsutism, and it is caused by
06:59 by an excess level of male hormones or
07:02 androgens in a female body.
07:04 This can be caused from a couple of things.
07:06 It can be caused from a problem with the ovarian function.
07:09 It can be caused with a problem with the adrenal glands, it can
07:13 also caused by obesity, where the adipose tissue itself
07:16 contains a lot of estrogen storage,
07:18 and can unbalance hormone levels.
07:21 The things that we learned for treatment on Hirsutism are some
07:26 very simple lifestyle things.
07:28 I do want to let people know that we are genetically
07:31 predetermined that the number of hairs that we have per square
07:35 section of skin, and we have two types of hair.
07:39 A very thin fine baby hair known as vellus hair, and then
07:42 the courser, darker hair is known as termial hairs.
07:46 Terminal hairs are responsive to hormones, vellus hairs
07:49 usually are not, but in this presence of increased male
07:52 hormones, women's vellus hairs can actually convert to terminal
07:56 When they have, when a terminal hair now is in the place of
08:00 what used to be a vellus hair, these will not go back to being
08:04 a vellus hair, and you are kind of stuck with those dark, course
08:08 hairs that have occurred.
08:09 They can be removed permanently, either through electrolysis,
08:11 or there are some really interesting new laser treatments
08:14 that are specially beneficial in individuals who are
08:17 light complected, with dark hair.
08:19 The greater the contrast in pigment between the skin
08:22 and the hair, the more successful a laser treatment
08:26 will be for permanent removal.
08:28 So focusing on treating this naturally folks
08:30 is a lot on preventing further vellus hair
08:33 from being converted to terminal hairs,
08:34 and helping a woman get her hormones back in balance.
08:38 It's very important for the woman to loose weight, and to
08:41 avoid anything in her diet or environment that will add more
08:44 estrogens or external hormones to her system.
08:47 A plant based diet is the perfect prescription.
08:50 Any animal product because it comes from a mammal that also
08:54 makes hormones will add more hormones into the system,
08:57 so animal products should be strictly avoided.
08:59 Weight should be lost, and this can also be accomplished nicely
09:03 with plant based diets, high in fiber.
09:06 Plenty of exercise.
09:07 Plenty of exercise is very important in this, and getting
09:11 lots of fiber, drinking plenty of water.
09:13 these are all part of that treatment for this.
09:16 Some other treatment that I wanted to recommend,
09:19 is to add freshly ground flax seed.
09:21 This has the benefit of bringing some healthy fats into
09:25 diet, which are beneficial for
09:27 helping to contain a balanced hormones.
09:29 Make that sure you don't overeat.
09:32 You must just take in a modest amount of calories, in order to
09:36 not only maintain your weight loss, but to prevent fluctuation
09:40 to hormone levels, even insulin
09:41 is a hormone that we need to be careful with.
09:43 It was interesting to me to find that insulin resistance can
09:47 be a predisposing factor to women developing Hirsutim.
09:50 Changing the vellus hair into terminal hair.
09:54 Women who suffer from polycystic ovary syndrome will know what
09:57 I'm talking about, not only do they have insulin resistance as
10:01 a part of this syndrome, but Hirsutism is one of the signs
10:05 and symptoms of this disorder as well.
10:07 Fasting and taking a two meal plan can help in lowering the
10:11 calorie intake, and aiding in the weight loss.
10:14 In addition, there are some herbs that may be beneficial.
10:17 I have a list here and I want to read them to you:
10:19 One is Saw Palmetto, now many people think of this as the
10:26 the healthy prostate hormone for men.
10:29 The very same breakdown product of testosterone that can
10:32 contribute to prostate cancer, and prostate enlargement will
10:36 cause Hirsutism in ladies, so taking saw palmetto may help
10:41 keep that testorone breakdown product from telling the little
10:45 hair follicle from turning vellus hair into terminal hair.
10:48 It can prevent a worsening of Hirsutism.
10:51 Stinging nettles is another herb that may be beneficial in
10:54 Hirsutism, and that can be taken as a tea or capsule as
10:58 followed on the package instructions.
10:59 Vitex chasteberry is a wonderful herb for a woman to take to
11:04 help balance the female hormones,
11:06 its highly recommended for women
11:08 who have polycystic ovaries syndrome to take,
11:10 as the package instructions prescribe.
11:14 Then, make sure you are getting plenty of whole grains which
11:17 are rich in zinc, and chromium and the vitamin E's, the B
11:21 vitamins that are also essential nutrients for a person who is
11:24 trying to fight insulin resistance, loose weight and
11:27 balance their hormone levels, so here are a few tips anyway,
11:30 Very Good!
11:31 for this condition, that can be
11:33 very distressing for many women.
11:35 Now in drugstores you can sometimes find these little kits
11:40 that have an electric needle powered by a little battery
11:46 and especially if the hairs are dark, and the skin is pale, one
11:51 can easily thread the little needle into the hair follicle.
11:57 The little device automatically gives a little spark and it can
12:02 kill the hair follicle, and some person can perform this
12:08 little surgical procedure on another, very safely, very
12:14 helpfully, just doing maybe a half dozen to a dozen hairs
12:17 at a time, until they have reduced the population
12:21 sufficiently, that she feels quite comfortable with the
12:26 number of dark hairs that she has left.
12:28 Or maybe even get rid of all of them.
12:30 I imagine you want to numb it with a little ice cube.
12:34 It's a little painful, yes it is, but not so painful that
12:40 the person wants any numbing.
12:42 Oh good, ok.
12:43 Usually, if you don't do to many at one time you can
12:47 tolerate it quite well.
12:49 Thank you so much.
12:51 Thank you for having me.
12:52 I appreciate your research on this.
12:55 Very nice.
12:56 Now another thing that people often have as a problem is
13:00 The loss of hair.
13:01 Not only is excess hair a problem,
13:04 but the loss of hair certainly is to.
13:06 One way that one can tell whether the loss of hair is
13:11 serious, or is not serious is by simply looking at the number
13:18 of hairs that one can simply pull out.
13:21 So if you pulled twenty hairs, just in random areas across
13:26 the scalp, and then take a little hand lens, look at the
13:30 end of the hair shaft, look at the bulb,
13:35 and see if there is a bulb.
13:38 If there is no bulb, then the person is loosing growing hairs,
13:46 The bulb part is left inside, but if a person has a shaft
13:52 If a shaft has a bulb on it, that's a resting hair and the
13:58 whole bulb came out with it.
14:00 there is still a germinal portion left in the follicle
14:04 but, the little bulb came out with it and that's a resting
14:09 hair, so if no more than about two or three are growth hairs,
14:13 that's a very good sign, that's just a resting hair, and when
14:18 the hairs quit resting, they will start growing again.
14:22 But if they are coming out from growing hair follicles that's
14:27 more serious, indicates that it may be more permanent.
14:29 So a woman who is losing a lot of hair may feel very
14:34 discouraged to learn that she is losing growing hairs,
14:39 and, she may never replace those.
14:41 Of course that's the way men do when they are going bald,
14:45 they loose growing hairs and once they are out they don't
14:50 come back usually.
14:51 Now I have some pictures that I would like to show you of
14:56 certain problems on the skin, that I think can help you to
15:01 understand other skin conditions, so we will now
15:05 take a look at some of my pictures that can graphically
15:09 show to you certain things that I cannot explain so well just
15:14 by telling you about them.
15:15 So here is one that we can easily see, and much more easily
15:21 feel, it's an aphthous ulcer or a mouth ulcer, and these occur
15:27 on the inside of the mouth,
15:30 these are extremely painful,
15:31 and they can be treated nicely with a little golden seal powder
15:35 sprinkled inside the lip and right onto the little ulcer.
15:41 Or golden seal tea can be prepared, and the tea swished
15:46 around in the mouth and then swallowed, and that can give
15:51 one quite a great deal of relief.
15:53 Now the next picture that you see is also an aphthous ulcer
15:57 on the tongue.
15:59 This one is going to be much more difficult in treating,
16:04 because you will notice that there is a whitish growth also,
16:09 on this tongue.
16:10 On the sides of the tongue, this is a very serious problem
16:16 in this man who has Aids, and the aphthous ulcer, and the
16:22 growth of the fungus or the yeast on his tongue indicates
16:28 that his immune system is not functioning very well, and of
16:33 course we already knew that with the diagnosis of Aids.
16:37 The treatment however is about the same, for the aphthous ulcer
16:42 as I mentioned before the golden seal is very good, drinking
16:46 lots of water is also very good for a mouth ulcer or an aphthous
16:51 ulcer, and a number of other things.
16:55 Do not drink very hot teas, or coffee,
16:58 or any kind of hot fluid
17:00 that could make a mouth ulcer worse.
17:02 But what could we do for the thrush, or the fungus growing
17:07 on his tongue.
17:08 Well a nice thing to do is a
17:11 saturated solution of baking soda.
17:13 Simply take the baking soda, put as much in a glass of water
17:20 as you can get to dissolve.
17:21 Then take a cotton tipped applicator stick and just apply
17:30 the saturated solution of baking soda on the tongue
17:31 multiple times during the day,
17:32 perhaps ten or twenty times during the day.
17:36 A person who has as much pain and difficulty in the mouth as
17:41 this poor gentleman has, will probably be at home nursing
17:46 himself, and so he has plenty of time to swab the mouth with
17:51 the baking soda, every half an hour, to an hour is certainly
17:55 fine to do with the baking soda.
17:59 Ok. Our next picture will show another problem,
18:03 again this problem is one that may be serious.
18:06 This is a temporal arteritis you can see that the temporal
18:11 artery is thickened, and if you felt of it, it would be both
18:15 tender to the patient and you would feel it as a rope like
18:20 structure rolling under your finger.
18:23 The major thing to do in temporal arteritis is to try to
18:27 assist the immune system to be better functioning, that's when
18:31 such herbal remedies, as licorice root tea, astragalus
18:37 is very good, Echinacea is very good, a plant based diet is
18:41 excellent to boost the functioning of the immune system
18:46 and to try to help this person
18:49 who has an auto-immune disorders.
18:52 It's not Aids, it's not the auto-immune disease which can
18:58 be systemic, this one is a disease
19:02 of a poor immune system functioning,
19:06 but of all together different nature than the Aids
19:10 which is caused by retrovirus.
19:12 No one knows the cause of this kind of collagen disease, or
19:17 auto-immune disorder called temporal arteritis.
19:20 Now, along with the things that you can do, with a plant
19:26 based diet, and the herbs is other lifestyle changes which
19:32 anyone is capable of doing by studying the various lifestyle
19:37 measures that are available.
19:39 Now the next picture will show another serious problem that you
19:45 will find in some people.
19:47 This particular one is lupus,
19:50 and you will see the butterfly rash.
19:52 This is on the cheeks, maybe a little bit right on the
19:56 forehead, and the middle, and a little bit on the chin to make
20:00 a configuration of a butterfly.
20:01 This is also an auto-immune disorder, similar to the
20:05 temporal arteritis, and can be treated in the same way.
20:09 These people are especially sensitive to the sun, and we
20:14 don't want to have them exposed to direct sunlight.
20:17 they can usually tolerate a little broken sun, as in the
20:22 shade of a rather thickly leafed out tree.
20:27 They can also walk in the sun with an umbrella, or a large
20:32 hat and long sleeves that cover all of the skin.
20:37 Now the next picture that you see is one that you will find
20:42 very interesting.
20:44 This picture is called the petechia, and people with low
20:48 platelets can have pethechia.
20:50 These are little bloody spots under the skin,
20:53 again, these can be treated with lifestyle changes.
20:58 The lifestyles changes that we expect will be the same ones
21:04 that we mentioned for the other auto-immune disorders.
21:07 This is as well an auto-immune disorder which can be treated
21:12 by lifestyle changes, and the herbs which I mentioned.
21:16 A plant based diet is the most favorable diet for these
21:20 individuals, avoiding all animal products
21:23 and making the life as nearly perfect as can be.
21:29 In these cases there is a premium on the lifestyle.
21:34 Now, the next picture that we have is another case that
21:40 you will also find interesting.
21:44 This one is a dry eye syndrome.
21:47 This one is another collagen disease,
21:53 but actually this person does not have the dry eye.
21:55 You will notice this little testing strip, the end of it is
22:00 put in the into the conjunctival space
22:03 and the tears travel down the little test device
22:10 and you can see a little wet spot if
22:12 you look very carefully you can see down under the eye lid
22:16 all the way down under the eye lid,
22:18 and actually down on the cheek,
22:20 you can see the wet spot on the test strip,
22:23 so this person, does not have the Sjogren's Syndrome,
22:27 or the dry eye syndrome, which can only at best
22:31 give a three millimeter zone of moisture.
22:37 Where as this one perhaps has two and one quarter centimeters
22:42 of moisture from the tears, so the eye is red and the person
22:46 may have a dry eye, but it could be from something as simple as
22:51 not drinking enough water, very few people drink enough water.
22:55 Next slide, when we see our next slide, I think you will
23:00 also see another very interesting case, and this is
23:04 a case of, you can see that the conjunctivae is swollen.
23:10 The conjunctivae is the portion of the covering of the
23:16 eye, that covers the entire eye, including the cornea.
23:22 The conjunctivae is resistant to disease, and can usually
23:29 ward off most germs that come through the eye, but in this
23:36 case there has been an infection and the person does
23:41 have the swelling of the conjunctivae.
23:45 In cases of injury of the conjunctivae, we may need
23:50 to irrigate any kind of foreign material, like dirt or trash
23:57 that may get into the eye during the injury, and then if there is
24:02 a flap of the conjunctivae by simply directing a stream of
24:09 saline, made by one teaspoon of salt to one level pint of
24:15 water, and making it at body temperature, if possible
24:21 irrigating or directing a stream of the saline against
24:27 the flap, and directing it back into its proper place.
24:33 Then close the eyelid and bandage it shut, using a thick
24:40 gauze over the eye to keep the eye from displacing the flap
24:46 of conjunctivae, and the next day it will be all stuck down
24:53 and the bandage can usually be removed.
24:56 The person may still have a sore eye,
24:59 so they may prefer to have a small bandage kept on.
25:04 An inflamed eye will usually give you a quite great deal of
25:11 photophobia, or pain on a light shining in the eye, and so you
25:19 want to always be careful to protect the eye of a person
25:23 who has an injured eye.
25:25 Now I have here something that may be helpful to you if you
25:30 have a sick person in your home.
25:32 This device is simply something to go on a faucet,
25:38 such as on a sink, and then the person,
25:43 if you have a sick person who is
25:44 chronically ill, cannot get in a bathtub,
25:47 with this device, you can
25:51 with their simply bending over a sink
25:55 or lying in a chair bent backwards,
25:59 with the head extended over the sink
26:03 you can use this spray to keep the hair clean.
26:07 You would be amazed how it helps with the healing of a
26:11 chronically ill person, just by washing the hair.
26:16 It stimulates the entire body, it of course cleanses an
26:21 important part of the body, and it advances healing.
26:26 Now I don't think it would be appropriate for me to stop the
26:31 discussion of the skin, and other parts of the body that we
26:37 can easily see, without telling you about the
26:40 development of the teeth in children.
26:45 The age in months minus six will give you the number of teeth
26:52 that a child should have, that is nice for young mothers to
26:57 know, and then if you would like to know the average height
27:04 the age multiplied by two plus thirty two can give you the
27:10 average height in inches.
27:12 Now if you would like to know the average weight, the age
27:18 times five plus seventeen will give you the average weight
27:22 after the age of three years, so let me give you those again.
27:26 The age in months minus six, gives you the number of teeth.
27:31 The age times two, plus thirty two gives you the average height
27:38 and the age times five, plus seventeen will give you the
27:44 average weight, after the age of three years.
27:47 So I hope that mothers will enjoy that.
27:50 May the Lord Bless you with these very simple things to
27:53 take care of your skin, and hair and nails.