Help Yourself to Health

Cardiac Concerns Pt 2

Three Angels Broadcasting Network

Program transcript

Participants: Agatha Thrash (Host), Rhonda Clark, Don Miller


Series Code: HYTH

Program Code: HYTH000238

00:01 Hello! The heart is a very simple muscle with some valves
00:08 that are made of connective tissue, some nerves,
00:11 some fairly large bundles of nerves, and some blood vessels.
00:15 Very simple construction and yet many things affect it,
00:20 many things that we do in lifestyle can affect it
00:23 for good or for not so good, so we want to learn those things
00:27 that we should avoid and encourage those things that we
00:31 should do for the health of the heart.
00:33 We'll be talking about some of these things in this program
00:36 so we hope that you will join us, and I know that you will
00:39 enjoy it.
00:59 Welcome to Help Yourself To Health
01:02 with Dr. Agatha Thrash of Uchee Pines Institute
01:05 and now here is your host Dr. Thrash.
01:08 Things that we eat, the air that we breathe, how we walk,
01:17 the amount of sunshine that we get, so many things affect
01:21 the heart directly and many of those things that affect
01:25 the heart directly also affect it indirectly, so that we may
01:29 get factors that come from many different directions
01:33 affecting the heart.
01:35 Now I would like to show you some pictures, so if you will
01:39 come with me we will see some pictures that can help you to
01:44 understand some things having to do with the heart and how
01:48 you can participate in keeping the heart healthy.
01:51 So I would like to show you a heart a cross section diagram
01:56 of the heart that will show to you the nerve system,
02:01 now this just shows the major trunks of the nerves but
02:06 you will notice at the very top you will notice a little group
02:12 of nerves all together in a bundle, and then some cords
02:18 that go down to another group of nerves all together.
02:23 This represents the electrical system of the heart and
02:27 of the way that the nerve impulses travel over the muscle
02:33 of the heart.
02:34 Now you will also notice that at the top the aorta is there
02:38 just behind the aorta is another circular type of structure
02:45 going backward from the aorta which points straight up.
02:50 That structure going backward is the pulmonary artery,
02:55 so when blood comes into the right heart it goes out as
03:01 unoxygenated blood into the artery, the pulmonary artery,
03:06 the only place in the body where an artery carries
03:09 unoxygenated blood, and then goes to the lungs gets filled
03:15 with oxygen, comes back to the left atrium, goes to the
03:19 left ventricle and then is pumped out through the aorta.
03:23 All of this is controlled by a nervous system that sends
03:27 impulses on a regular basis to the two sets of chambers,
03:33 upper chambers and the lower chambers.
03:35 Now in the next view you will see a little bit of a close up,
03:41 the SA Node, the sino auricular node is that one at the top
03:46 and you will remember from the previous diagram that it
03:49 does have cords of nerves that go to the next one,
03:53 and what is not shown is the way that these nerves fan out
03:58 over the entire aricular area and the ventricular area.
04:04 It's a little bit better shown in the AV Node that's the
04:09 auriculo ventricular node which also sends nerve impulses
04:15 down over these cords and out through the ventricles,
04:20 both the left and the right ventricle.
04:22 The next picture will show another aspect of heart health
04:26 which is a build up of atherosclerosis.
04:30 Now you may have heard of arteriosclerosis which is a
04:34 general term that includes several different kinds of
04:39 arterial and arteriolo disease, the arteriole are structures
04:46 are the smallest of the arteries, it is in this portion
04:51 of the blood vessel tree that the blood pressure is controlled
04:57 but this large one that you see on this picture shows under
05:02 the lining of the artery which could be a medium sized
05:10 artery or a large artery, or even the aorta, this cushion
05:16 of yellowish material is partly cholesterol and partly other
05:23 substances which are largely inert.
05:26 Now this fatty substance can get blood vessels growing
05:33 into it, when blood vessels grow into it then we can have
05:39 a hemorrhage inside this plaque.
05:42 If a hemorrhage occurs inside this plaque, it's going to
05:44 squeeze the remaining lumen of the artery even more and can
05:51 close it up so a tiny hemorrhage in a large plaque is one of the
05:57 important things causing the blockage of an artery.
06:00 Now in the next slide you will see the entire aorta and
06:07 part of it's arteries that come off from the aorta,
06:14 notice the three at the top, the first on the left of the
06:18 screen is the innominate which forks into two as you can see
06:23 that's the common carotid and the subclavian,
06:26 and then the left common carotid and left subclavian
06:31 come directly off the aorta, now that's important to remember
06:36 but only for surgeons who are going to be operating on the
06:39 aorta, but just below, just beyond the take off of the left
06:46 subclavian you will see that there is a huge bulge.
06:50 now that unfortunately is a very bad pathological condition
06:57 it is an aneurism.
07:00 This aneurism may be from hardening of the arteries or
07:05 atherosclerosis or medial calcinosis, and of a variety of
07:10 diseases that can occur of the aorta and then because of the
07:14 disease it begins to loose its elasticity of going
07:19 back and forth with each hear beat stretching out and then
07:24 snapping back to it's original size.
07:27 It looses that elasticity and becomes fusiform as you can see
07:34 there, here in the first one on the left, there is not a
07:40 connection there with the renal arteries stops short the
07:48 aneurism stops short of the renal arteries as you can see
07:53 but the second one does involve the take off of the
07:56 renal arteries, that makes it much more serious.
07:59 Then the third one comes down a little farther,
08:02 involves the renal arteries and goes down almost to the
08:07 common iliac arteries which is the fork at the bottom,
08:11 and then the last one on the right of the screen, you can
08:17 it still involves the renal arteries and more of the
08:24 common iliac arteries.
08:26 Now as we see these graphics we can understand the
08:31 seriousness of problems that can occur in the aorta,
08:37 this largest of the blood vessels largest of the
08:40 arterial tree just in this one thing and of course our
08:45 having aneurisms is a serious problem and can often be
08:51 corrected by surgery.
08:53 So the next slide will show what we use to correct it with
08:58 in surgery, we have here a Teflon graft, this graft is not
09:06 as good as the original by any means but it can
09:09 save a person's life.
09:11 Notice how it is a mesh work and so it is inserted into
09:17 or attached to the aorta and to the common iliac arteries
09:22 in this case and we can see it in the next slide, we can see
09:27 it already in place.
09:29 Now you might think well this is good, now we've got a
09:33 new artery, yes we do have a new artery but unless there is a
09:39 major change in lifestyle this artery will not function long
09:45 and pretty soon it's going to be filled also with the same
09:49 kind of material that filled the first artery.
09:53 So always a lifestyle change is necessary,
09:58 so hardening of the arteries the answer is not surgery
10:02 the answer is lifestyle change, although we can be very happy
10:06 that we have surgery that can help us over a serious blockage
10:12 in blood vessels, that's not the best answer, the best answer
10:16 is dealing with the atherosclerosis so then we
10:21 face the question, is there hope for atherosclerosis?
10:24 So I have asked a friend of mine a colleague at Uchee Pines
10:29 Rhonda Clark and RN to join our program this morning,
10:32 we are glad you are here.
10:33 - Thank you for having me! - I know that you have done some
10:37 research on atherosclerosis and I would like to hear what
10:41 you have to say about the hope for atherosclerosis. -Great!
10:44 - Is there any hope?
10:45 - The good news is that indeed there is hope and this can be
10:49 very encouraging for any of you who like me have not always
10:51 lived a perfect lifestyle, and you begin to wonder,
10:55 have I already done damage beyond what there is any hope
10:58 of recovering.
10:59 The conventional belief about atherosclerosis even just as few
11:04 as 20 years ago was that once it developed as it was
11:08 developing, there really was no hope, there was no opportunity
11:11 of that to be halted or reversed and it wasn't until
11:15 1990 when a physician by the name of Dean Ornish led a
11:19 research team out in San Francisco, California
11:21 that did show indeed that there is hope for atherosclerosis
11:26 that these plaques of atherosclerosis that get built
11:29 up in our arteries can indeed be reversed.
11:31 What's interesting Dr. Thrash is that all of this in his study
11:35 was about lifestyle measures, it wasn't about procedures.
11:39 - I would like to mention that many years, even probably
11:44 about a decade and a half before Dean Ornish did his study
11:48 we already knew at Uchee Pines that lifestyle could make a
11:52 major change, and the way that it happened was this.
11:56 There was a patient at Wildwood Hospital and Lifestyle Center
12:00 who had been a severe alcoholic and had lived on milk and
12:06 these little cheese crackers that you can buy from the
12:09 vending machine for about two years, and until her daughter
12:14 came and said this is going to stop, and so she took her to
12:20 Wildwood where she stayed on an excellent lifestyle program
12:24 for about eight months until Thanksgiving time,
12:28 and then she heard about Uchee Pines being very close to
12:31 Columbus, Georgia.
12:32 Well she had some relatives living in Columbus, Georgia
12:35 so she said well I'll just move down to Uchee Pines,
12:38 she stayed on the same good lifestyle program,
12:41 she unfortunately died suddenly of a ruptured brain cyst about
12:48 a year and a half after she had come to Uchee Pines.
12:51 At an autopsy the angiogram which had been done at Wildwood
12:56 showed remarkable clearing of various large blood vessels
13:03 that had been studied before so we already knew before
13:07 Dean Ornish published his wonderful study, we were
13:10 very happy to see it, we didn't have enough cases that we could
13:13 publish it but Dean Ornish did and we were very happy about it.
13:17 - Well people may be interested to know what was it exactly
13:19 about this program that had helped, so I want to share that
13:22 with you but I do want to mention in conventional medicine
13:25 the treatment has to do very little with reversing the
13:28 process of atherosclerosis.
13:30 One of the common treatments is angioplasty, where a balloon
13:34 on a thin tube is threaded into the heart where areas of
13:37 blockage occur, then it's inflated to kind of push open
13:41 the passage ways spreading the plaque a little thinner
13:45 against the walls of the artery.
13:46 It's distressing to learn that in a single vessel that has
13:51 received the angioplasty the failure rate is 35-45% in
13:55 six months, and if multiple vessels are done,
13:57 the failure rate is 50-60% in six months.
14:01 The procedure is very costly it's risky and it does nothing
14:05 to treat this underlying problem of atherosclerosis.
14:08 What was so exciting about Dean Ornishes program
14:11 which was know as the Lifestyle Heart Trial, was that he put
14:15 people on a very low fat very low cholesterol diet.
14:20 A typical low cholesterol diet in that era was about 300 mg
14:25 of cholesterol a day, Dean Ornishes program allowed only
14:29 five, that gave the person the opportunity to have one nonfat
14:34 serving of skim milk or yogurt per day.
14:37 The only animal product that was allowed in the diet
14:39 other than egg whites, everything else was plant based
14:42 rich in fiber, rich in healthful nutrition, and he was very
14:46 strict with the participants in the study that they could
14:49 not smoke, they could not use caffeine, which I am sure
14:52 you are familiar with Dr. Thrash can be not only a contributing
14:55 factor to heart rate irregularities and
14:57 high blood pressure, but interestingly can raise the
15:00 blood fat levels as well.
15:02 - And can increase the problems that one might have with
15:05 diabetes, even in inducing diabetes, coffee is a bad news.
15:12 - Yes! - Even decaffeinated is
15:14 bad news. - Yes!
15:15 The other two aspects of his program included exercise
15:18 and stress control, for some people that was building the
15:22 spiritual aspect of their life or for other it was taking walks
15:25 outside, things that they could do to help relieve and manage
15:28 stress, and the results were astounding.
15:31 Previously on a low cholesterol diet people might expect after
15:35 four or five years to have a decrease in their total
15:38 cholesterol count of about six percent, and always the
15:42 atherosclerosis worsened.
15:44 There was one interesting study called
15:46 The Program For Lipidemia Control that had people followed
15:51 for 10 years, they followed a 25% fat diet, 200 mg of
15:55 cholesterol per day, which at that time they thought was
15:58 very low and strict and these individuals over ten years
16:02 only lowered their cholesterol counts about 10 points
16:05 on average, almost all 85% of them had worsened the
16:10 atherosclerotic plaques in their arteries.
16:13 On Dean Ornishes program by angiogram the individuals on
16:17 this program had not only prevented further worsening
16:20 of their heart disease, but had actually shown improvement.
16:24 The plaques in their arteries had opened had released,
16:27 and it was encouraging to find that those who had the
16:30 worst lesions or blockages at the beginning of the study
16:34 had the best results.
16:36 Some of them had as much as 50% increase of blood flow
16:39 to the heart muscle, and this all occurred in one year,
16:43 this astounded the medical community, and was so
16:46 encouraging for those of us who have felt the Lord intended
16:50 for us to have... - Have lifestyle!
16:52 - Yes! - It has a major treatment
16:55 modality in the treatment of heart disease.
16:58 There is hope for the person who feels either from a
17:02 diagnosis or feels from their lifestyle that they may have
17:05 atherosclerotic plaques there is hope through following
17:09 plant based diet, exercise, managing stress,
17:11 staying away from caffeine and tobacco, those are proven
17:16 success remedies against atherosclerosis.
17:18 - Very good, thank you so much Rhonda, I appreciate your
17:23 being on the program and we hope to have you again sometime.
17:28 - I would be happy any time.
17:29 - I would like to talk with you about angina, angina is another
17:35 very common term that you hear dealing with the heart
17:41 and angina has been treated in a variety of ways for a long
17:45 time, most of these ways are not curative they are merely
17:51 palliative for the symptoms, but I would like to talk with
17:55 you about a few things that can be curative for angina.
18:00 One thing is the very same program that you heard Rhonda
18:05 speaking about, the control of the diet, so that it's low
18:10 in fat, low in cholesterol, so that maybe even no cholesterol
18:15 at all, which would mean a plant based diet almost entirely
18:21 if not entirely, and plenty of exercise, and avoiding those
18:25 noxious substances that we know are cardio-toxic that's the
18:29 first thing, always start with that.
18:31 Then there are some very wonderful herbs that can be
18:37 helpful, one is of course Hawthorne.
18:40 I think at any time that some one who know anything about
18:43 herbs and the heart, any time they hear heart disease or
18:48 artery disease, the next thought is going to be Hawthorne.
18:52 Hawthorne berry is a tiny little apple like fruit,
18:58 it grows in several places in the United States, the southeast
19:03 is one of those places, it just grows wild there
19:06 and the local people call it haw, it has thorns on the tree
19:11 and it's a little yellowish, or pinkish yellow, or reddish
19:15 yellow fruit, just about 1/2 inch to 3/4 inch big,
19:21 with some large seeds that's characteristic of the
19:24 Hawthorne Berry and then it grows widely in Europe
19:28 especially in Germany and Eastern Europe,
19:31 very widely there.
19:34 Hawthorne should be always one of the first lines
19:38 of herbal treatment for the heart or for the
19:41 blood vessels in any way.
19:43 Then there are some others, some anti-platelet herbs
19:47 which keep the platelets from getting sticky and making
19:51 tiny clots inside blood vessels which then make a scar
19:57 when they heal and the scar that is a weakened place on the
20:02 artery, then comes fat and it sticks to this weakened place
20:08 and that's the beginning of the plaque that we saw earlier.
20:13 So anti-platelet stickiness herbs are colius, which is also
20:18 good for the blood pressure, and ginger also good as a
20:24 blood vessel opening herb, and the common turmeric
20:31 which we have in the kitchen.
20:33 Turmeric has a most wonderful substance that causes
20:39 anti-platelet stickiness and a half teaspoonful three or
20:43 four times a day in a little water is the dosage that one
20:48 should take.
20:50 And then some people use capsicum, or red pepper
20:55 it also has blood vessel dilating effects and
20:59 anti-platelet stickiness factor, I reserve Cayenne
21:03 Capsicum for really serious and acute cases.
21:07 Then there is Valerian and corydials, many of these are
21:15 common herbs that you know but have not been used as a
21:20 Cardiac herb, one of those that you've used for it's
21:24 immune system boosting is Astragalus which is very
21:28 healthful to boost the immune system to help you to fight
21:31 germs, but also in many parts of the world it is not used
21:37 in that way at all, it is used as a cardiac herb,
21:41 and so I recommend that to you when you are
21:43 dealing with angina.
21:44 Now another very important part of the work that we do
21:49 is to lecture in health and I have asked Dr. Donald Miller
21:55 who is our world lecturer, he goes to various parts of the
22:00 world from Uchee Pines, supported by Uchee Pines and
22:03 encouraged by Uchee Pines and Dr. Miller welcome to the
22:08 program today. - Thank you!
22:10 - You always have some interesting things
22:13 and so I would like to have you tell us what you have here
22:18 simple things I can see. - Simple things!
22:21 - What are they going to do for us with the heart?
22:24 Well this is good things and bad things here, and I do a lot
22:27 of traveling and a lot of long distance flying and
22:30 I remember it seemed to get to the point in my flights
22:34 that almost every time there was some type of
22:36 medical emergency on the air plane, there would be a little
22:40 murmur, they would have to sit down and there would be
22:43 people rushing up and down in the aisle's, and then when we
22:45 finally landed.
22:46 Please everyone remain in your seats while we cart this
22:49 poor soul out of the air plane and they are having a lot
22:52 of problems of people having cardiac events on the air plane.
22:55 So they started doing things differently on our long flights,
23:00 on every air line that I have flown on in the last number
23:05 of years, in the air line magazine, there is always
23:08 a section giving you exercises, and not only do they give you
23:12 a section on exercises that you do in your seat, but they will
23:15 show you on the screen a little program on how to do exercises
23:20 while you are sitting there because when you sit still
23:22 for a long period of time, your blood sort of settles out
23:25 and one of the problems that we have had in airplanes
23:28 over the years and I still see it out there, is the food
23:31 that they feed you is normally very high in fat.
23:35 I always get my meal first because they are always
23:38 searching out those few people who are on special meals,
23:41 although I am finding, the more I travel, the more people
23:44 are getting those special meals.
23:46 The un-special meals, the ones that everyone else gets are
23:50 always very high in fat and there is a big difference
23:53 between fat and water.
23:55 Now it's interesting they will give you this big fatty meal
23:58 and when you want something to drink it's a very small
24:00 container of water, this isn't the container, but they will
24:03 give you small glasses and usually they will also have
24:07 Coka-Cola and other different types of sugar drinks,
24:10 and the sugar makes your blood thicker which is not good.
24:11 The fat makes your blood thicker, that's not good
24:17 and if you are sitting there for seven, eight, ten hours
24:20 with all this fat and thickness in your blood, it has a tendency
24:25 to slow down and sometimes forming clots.
24:28 That can cause very severe cardiac events,
24:32 so what I recommend you do if you travel and when you
24:36 travel and not just on the airlines, if you have a long
24:39 car ride, they recommend very importantly if you have
24:43 a long automobile ride, especially if someone is older
24:45 in a vehicle and even if you are young every two hours
24:49 you stop and you do a Chinese fire drill we used to call it,
24:52 go around the vehicle, walk around the rest area.
24:56 - And partake of the water! - And drink copious amounts
24:59 of water, the nice thing about drinking water, it makes you
25:02 have to stop every once in awhile and then you get your
25:04 exercise, it is very good.
25:06 I remember once on tour, we used to travel a lot we'd have
25:11 a few team members with us and of course we were always
25:14 on a deadline, and I remember one time we stopped
25:17 and Dr. Thrash looks at her watch and says 55 seconds,
25:20 so you got good exercise getting into the little room and
25:23 getting back out in 55 seconds.
25:25 - I remember one team member jumped out of the van.
25:29 - Yes! - She went sailing out
25:33 to get back in 55 seconds.
25:35 - And it was always a challenge so when you start,
25:38 it's very important when you are in an airplane they also
25:41 recommend this, get up and walk around some.
25:43 If you have a tendency or have a danger of forming clots,
25:50 or of having strokes or heart attacks, or your doctor says
25:53 you are in this area, maybe you are one of those they've said
25:55 take an aspirin a day which we don't necessarily recommend,
25:59 we say take a clove of garlic a day or some
26:02 purple grape juice a day. - Or keep drinking your water!
26:03 - Keep drinking your water, just keep the blood thin
26:06 and keep it moving through your system, but get up and
26:09 walk around if you think that you might be in this area
26:12 and then do your exercises, whatever you want to do
26:15 keep those muscles moving. - And stretch!
26:17 - Stretch! - And yawn!
26:19 - But please be gentle with the guy behind you, I was
26:23 on my last flight I was sitting there and just real comfortable
26:26 and the person in front of me pushed their button,
26:28 and they came back whoosh! and their thing was right in
26:30 my face, so he was probably trying to stretch and I
26:33 gave him that break but if you are going to put your seat
26:36 back, push your button and slowly lean back,
26:38 don't give them a heart attack thinking the plane is crashing,
26:41 and then do your nice big stretches and you might
26:45 survive your flight and not have to have a medical emergency
26:48 at the other end. - Yes! Well I'm thankful
26:50 that we have all this instruction that can keep us
26:54 healthy in this way, not having heart attacks and blood clots
26:58 on air planes.
27:00 Remember that if you have the health of your heart
27:05 as being an important thing in your life, remember that you
27:09 should be getting a C-reactive protein and a homocystine
27:14 level done annually as well, and more frequently if get an
27:21 abnormal test, these are new markers that we know are as
27:26 important as getting a cholesterol test,
27:28 they test for different things that also affect the heart
27:32 in an adverse way.
27:34 Now I hope with these very important things that we have
27:38 mentioned that you will have more hope that you can have
27:42 a healthy heart and that your lifestyle will be more healthful
27:46 than it has been before.
27:48 Now when you realize that your heart is healthy,
27:51 give our divine designer the credit for giving us
27:56 this good heart.


Revised 2014-12-17