Participants: Agatha Thrash (Host)
Series Code: HYTH
Program Code: HYTH000211
00:01 Through the years we have had a lot of patients at
00:04 Uchee Pines Institute at our lifestyle center,
00:06 who have sort of stood out as exemplary patients
00:11 for one reason or another.
00:13 I would like to tell you the story about several of these
00:16 so if you like stories about people who have had
00:19 a good healing, maybe you will like to stay with us and
00:22 we will discuss some of these cases at this time.
00:45 Welcome to Help Yourself To Health, with Dr. Agatha Thrash
00:49 of Uchee Pines Institute, and now here is your host
00:52 Dr. Thrash.
00:54 The first case that I would like to tell you about
00:57 is a little 10 year old girl.
00:58 She was a very pretty little girl, came to Uchee Pines
01:02 as a patient, she had a number of symptoms,
01:06 and it turned out that she had Celiac disease, but
01:08 she had never been diagnosed.
01:11 She had a number of the symptoms that I'm going to show you
01:14 on the screen, as of being typical of patients who have
01:18 Celiac disease.
01:19 Celiac disease is rather serious affliction of children,
01:24 and older people, and we will see on the screen those symptoms
01:29 that usually have their onset in childhood.
01:33 The symptoms of a gluten sensitivity include diarrhea,
01:38 weakness, lassitude, fatigability, weight loss,
01:43 which can be rather profound, especially in adults.
01:46 A poor appetite, they may have an enlarged abdomen,
01:51 they may be pale, they may bleed easily.
01:54 When they put a little strain on a muscle, or when they
02:00 relax it fully, they may get a little jumping of the muscle,
02:04 which is called tetany, they may have a sore tongue,
02:08 and strange sensations in various places.
02:11 Muscle cramps are rather common, a scaly skin sometimes,
02:16 bone pain sometimes and depression.
02:18 Not every patient will have all of these symptoms,
02:23 and our patient didn't have them all, in fact she didn't
02:27 have enough that people could really recognize it as Celiac
02:31 disease, or a gluten sensitivity.
02:33 But she indeed did have the gluten sensitivity,
02:38 and when we removed gluten from her diet,
02:41 she began to improve right away, she at first
02:46 looked to be about six years old, although she was actually
02:50 ten, so when we put her on the gluten free diet,
02:55 it was only a few days, before a lot of the abdominal symptoms
03:00 that she had, went away.
03:02 This kind of success story we are always very happy to have,
03:07 because it indicates something that's really serious, but
03:11 then has a very simple answer.
03:16 If you know someone with a gluten sensitivity,
03:19 you may want to give them an address of Gluten Free Living
03:23 which I will show you on the screen right now.
03:25 This address is a place where people can write off to
03:29 and get information.
03:39 People with gluten sensitivity are very frequently
03:43 seriously affected, but they don't have a diagnosis even.
03:49 Another case that I would like to tell you about,
03:53 is one very interesting.
03:55 We had a woman who was about 50 years old,
03:58 came to Uchee Pines with an ovarian cancer,
04:02 it was in both sides, and we really don't know what to make
04:06 of this case, but the diagnosis was made else ware,
04:10 and when she came, there was a large mass on the left side,
04:14 firmly attached to the hipbone, easily palpable,
04:19 from the abdomen, she could easily feel it herself,
04:23 and her relatives could feel it.
04:25 You couldn't feel the about five centimeter mass,
04:30 in the right ovarian area, but it was easily palpated on a
04:37 pelvic exam.
04:38 During the time that she was at Uchee Pines, we gave her
04:42 a totally grape filled diet.
04:45 It was grapes for breakfast, grapes for lunch, grapes for
04:49 supper, sometimes she had grape juice,
04:52 we got all different kinds of grapes.
04:54 We fed her red ones, and white ones, and green ones
04:57 and purple ones, those with seeds, and those without seeds.
05:01 We gave her also grape juice, and she could even have some
05:05 raisins, but only grapes.
05:08 Actually we did give her a little green drink
05:10 because her hemoglobin was so low, that we felt
05:14 she needed to be built up with some chlorophyll containing
05:18 compounds, that are also high in iron, and high in Vitamin C.
05:22 During the time that she was at Uchee Pines,
05:26 the tumor on her left side, went down to about half the size
05:32 it was when she came in, and was no longer so tightly fixed
05:38 to the pelvic wall.
05:40 After she went home, she continued on the diet
05:43 that we had given her at Uchee Pines,
05:45 and the tumor mass completely went away.
05:49 Again we say we don't know what to make of that,
05:52 she hasn't been long enough for us to have
05:56 repeat tests on her, but we have certainly been
05:59 very encouraged by a simple routine, and this leads us
06:03 to believe that every disease of mankind has a cure in nature.
06:09 I don't know if grapes is a cure, if this treatment
06:13 is a cure for ovarian cancer, or can even put it in remission
06:19 even for awhile, we don't know the answer to that,
06:22 we just know that in this one case, there was a reduction
06:27 in the size of the tumor, and it appears to the woman herself
06:32 that it has gone away.
06:34 We also gave her hot fever baths, and that has been
06:38 associated with a good report in some people who have cancer.
06:44 Another woman who had cancer and a very good result was,
06:49 a woman from New York, she was a good school teacher,
06:55 very active in her school, she also was a good church member,
07:00 and very active in her church.
07:02 She had a large breast cancer, she was very much overweight,
07:06 the breast was removed and, some lymph nodes in her Axilla,
07:11 the lymph nodes contained the cancer,
07:14 and some four years later, the cancer recurred under her
07:19 collar bone, on the same side that she had the mastectomy.
07:23 When she went to her physician the second time,
07:27 her cancer was a large orange sized mass,
07:32 just under the collar bone.
07:34 She already knew that it was a cancer
07:36 before she went to see the doctor.
07:38 He said well, we've already given you the maximum
07:41 of radiation, I don't feel we should take it off,
07:45 but we can offer you some chemotherapy.
07:49 She said no, the chemotherapy that you gave me before,
07:52 almost killed me, and I recognize that this cancer
07:57 is going to be the death of me, so I will just go home
08:01 and set my house in order.
08:03 Well she heard about Uchee Pines about that time,
08:06 so she came to our institute, and with our treatments,
08:10 the fever treatments and a very strict diet of total vegetarian
08:15 nature, the big orange sized mass, shrank down to the size
08:22 of a large walnut.
08:23 She was just delighted and so were we.
08:28 She went back home to her New York residence,
08:32 and began teaching school again.
08:35 She taught school for four more years,
08:38 that was eight years after the initial cancer was discovered.
08:42 At the end of the eighth year, she began to get depressed,
08:48 she was in a situation at her home that was not
08:52 really comfortable, and she was having a little friction
08:56 at home, got depressed over that, decided she would
08:59 spend the summer with her brother who was living in a very
09:04 free lifestyle, he drank a little wine with every evening
09:10 meal, and sometimes drank a cocktail,
09:12 and she joined with her brother and his wife
09:14 with these activities, they went out to eat every night,
09:18 of the week, and ate a large dinner.
09:21 Slowly during the summer she began to be less depressed,
09:26 but she was gaining an enormous amount,
09:29 she had lost about 60 Ibs. during the time
09:33 that we were treating her for the breast cancer.
09:36 With this great gain in weight, she could tell that her chest
09:40 was also getting quite large.
09:42 When she got back home at the end of the summer,
09:46 and started to teach, she began to realize that she had a
09:50 tumor in the opposite breast.
09:52 As she began to investigate this, her surgeon said "yes"
09:58 you have a recurrence there.
10:00 If you don't accept the chemotherapy,
10:02 we have nothing that we can offer.
10:04 She didn't accept the chemotherapy,
10:06 again she went home and set her house in order,
10:09 and even though she went back on the program that
10:12 we had taught her at Uchee Pines,
10:13 she could not get the cancer in remission a second time.
10:18 This brings up a principal that we have seen several times,
10:21 in treating cancer at Uchee Pines, that a person
10:26 may have the cancer in remission and then they for some reason,
10:32 decide to go off the program, and going off the program
10:36 puts them in an irretrievable position.
10:39 Even though we may try diligently to get them in a
10:42 remission again, we are unable to do so.
10:45 We tell people, when the Lord has given them the healing,
10:49 don't throw it away for any reason.
10:52 Don't let anything come up, so that you would not be so willing
10:58 to stay on the program that has put your tumor in remission.
11:02 Another case that I would like to tell you about,
11:05 is a case of type 1 diabetes.
11:07 Just as I wish we could say with all cancers,
11:12 that they all react like these two that I told you about.
11:15 We have scores, that have not been so successful.
11:19 We may put them in remission but, or we may slow down the
11:25 advance of the cancer, but we have had very few
11:29 what we would call cures.
11:31 There is no known cure for cancer at the present time,
11:35 unless it can be totally removed by surgery.
11:38 Nor is there any cure at the present time,
11:41 except for transplanting of a pancreas, or some eyelet cells
11:46 into the pancreas, of diabetes type 1.
11:50 But just so that I can report a case that was cured,
11:55 at least for a time, or controlled, I can't say cured,
11:59 but was controlled.
12:00 We had a man who was a psychologist, who came to
12:04 Uchee Pines, with type 1 diabetes,
12:07 he really was highly motivated,
12:10 to get his diabetes under control so that he would not
12:15 have to have insulin.
12:16 Normally we expect that a type 1 diabetic,
12:20 will never get off insulin.
12:21 We so informed him,that so far as we knew, no known case,
12:28 and we didn't expectation that he would be successful.
12:33 We sailed right into a treatment for him, suppressing the thyroid
12:38 and trying to make his other hormones also be quite low,
12:43 so we gave him three heads of cabbage every day,
12:48 and two heads of lettuce, now that was to suppress
12:51 the functioning of the thyroid.
12:53 We also gave a lot of walking, he walked 8-12 miles every day,
13:00 and sometimes 15 or 18 miles a day.
13:04 He spent most of the day in walking, or jogging.
13:09 At the end of about three weeks, we had continued
13:15 to take him down, until by the end of the three weeks,
13:18 we had him down to one unit of insulin per day.
13:24 We asked him if he wished to continue, he said "yes"
13:27 he wanted to try to go off insulin totally.
13:30 The next day, continuing this same very active program,
13:34 eating all this cabbage and all this lettuce every day,
13:37 we got him off insulin, and he went about a week
13:42 without insulin at all, keeping up with that program.
13:47 But one day he said, I can't maintain this program,
13:52 I've got to go home and work again, I'm not a wealthy man,
13:56 and I can't afford this kind of routine.
14:01 So we said let's continue with a little bit of insulin,
14:06 but just so that you can see through natural means,
14:11 diet, and exercise, he ate some other things besides lettuce
14:15 and cabbage, but, that was the thing
14:17 that we felt had suppressed
14:19 the thyroid sufficiently, so that his need for insulin
14:22 was maybe not so great.
14:24 We had another man who was from Ohio, who had incipient gangrene
14:33 in both feet.
14:34 On one side he had big blisters on the ankle and all along
14:39 the sides of the feet, and on the other side,
14:42 on the top of the foot, and around and behind,
14:44 he had large blisters from poor circulation,
14:49 the skin was simply dying.
14:50 His surgeon had told him, when he suggested that he take off
14:56 both his legs, his surgeon had told him, well if you won't,
15:01 take the surgery now, just go home and wait
15:05 until the gangrene is bad enough, and then come back
15:08 and I will take off your legs at that time.
15:11 Well about that time he decided that he would try to get
15:16 his severe type 1 and type 2 diabetes under control.
15:22 He had both of these mingled, he was quite overweight,
15:27 and he decided he would come to Uchee Pines,
15:29 and see if we could help him to get his diabetes under control,
15:33 and to do anything for his poor legs.
15:36 We did some rather unconventional thing for him,
15:40 we gave him charcoal soaks, of his legs, all the way up to
15:46 the knees in slightly warm water, of course for a diabetic,
15:50 you never give them a hot water soak, because the circulation
15:55 is not adequate to take care of the increased metabolism
15:59 that comes with increasing the temperature in the legs.
16:03 So, we gave him these warm charcoal baths to his feet,
16:08 several per day.
16:10 We give him one in the early morning, one midday, and
16:14 one in the late afternoon.
16:16 In between times, we gave him walking.
16:20 Well he had another problem, if he walked a little way,
16:23 he would get to the place where his legs hurt so badly,
16:27 that he couldn't take another step, at that point,
16:30 he would either sit down, or he would stop walking,
16:34 until the circulation caught up again with the needs
16:40 that his legs had, for continuing to contract
16:42 the muscles.
16:43 His wife would walk with him, and she would look around
16:47 at the flowers, or listen to the birds, while he rested his legs,
16:51 and got ready to walk again.
16:53 Little by little, we could see that the blisters were improving
16:59 they were getting smaller, the areas where the blisters
17:03 had actually ruptured, those were getting smaller
17:06 they seemed to be improving quite a great deal, we
17:09 gave him a type 1 diabetic diet, which is totally vegetarian,
17:16 with no animal products of any kind, an no sugars,
17:21 and no free fats, he did very well on the diet, he enjoyed it
17:26 from the start.
17:27 We stopped his smoking, he was smoking over a pack a day,
17:31 that stopped on the very first day, and little by little
17:36 he began to improve.
17:38 To make a long story short, they were with us for about
17:41 two months or maybe three months, his incipient gangrene
17:44 had completely healed, and he was walking quite nicely
17:48 without the severe pain that he had, had for so many months
17:53 before he even came to Uchee Pines.
17:55 I wish I could tell you that he did well,
17:58 he went many more years without having any problem,
18:03 with his legs, unfortunately, within six months he
18:07 was smoking again, when he went back home.
18:09 We were very disappointed, his wife called us just in tears,
18:13 can you please talk with my husband, and help him
18:16 not to smoke these cigarettes.
18:17 I talked with him but he said, you know I'm just hooked
18:20 with these things, and my legs are really doing quite well,
18:23 so he continued his smoking, but it wasn't long before he
18:27 made some other indulgences, and his gangrene came back,
18:30 and he did finally lose his two legs.
18:33 But at any rate this is a good success story, if the man
18:39 had only maintained his program.
18:41 I've given you some programs that failed, because the person
18:47 was not disciplined enough to stay on the program,
18:50 Or something happened, making it so they didn't want to stay
18:53 on the program any longer and they had a remission
18:57 of their disease.
18:58 Now I would like to tell you one that has gone now,
19:02 almost 40 years from the time we began the treatment,
19:05 to the present.
19:07 This was a woman with ulcerative colitis, she had
19:11 really quite severe ulcerative colitis, she would have up to
19:14 25 bowel movements every day.
19:17 She was the sole support for her two young girls,
19:21 and had to work, but her disease interferes so much
19:26 with her working, that she was beginning to feel a little
19:31 embarrassed with her employer,
19:34 having to be so frequently in the bathroom.
19:37 What we did was very simple, we gave her some hydrotherapy,
19:43 some heat treatments, followed by massage.
19:46 This happened three times a week at a minimum,
19:51 and sometimes five times a week.
19:53 The hot baths we continued for a series of 15,
19:57 and then started doing them once a week, followed by a massage.
20:01 Right away we were rewarded by her having fewer bowel movements
20:06 they got down to less than 20, then less than 15,
20:11 less than 10, she was making major dietary changes
20:15 at the same time.
20:17 She became a total vegetarian using no animal products,
20:22 of any kind, and no refined food products of any kind.
20:27 A high fiber diet, she took even some pectin, apple pectin,
20:32 separately in addition to the high fiber diet,
20:35 and eventually all the bloody stools that she had been having
20:39 all the frequency of stools that she had been having,
20:42 had gone away, at most she had
20:45 gotten down to three or four bowel movements a day.
20:48 Now this lady has maintained this,
20:52 she is now in her late 60's
20:54 and she is entirely well and has been for these nearly 40 years.
20:59 This is a good success story, bolstered by the fact
21:04 that she managed to stay on the treatment all that time.
21:09 Another one is a young man from Tennessee,
21:13 who came to Uchee Pines carrying a Kleenex under his arm
21:18 and having the thing that we have begun to call
21:22 the allergic salute, it is this kind of thing,
21:25 where they rub the nose like this,
21:28 that's the allergic salute, he had that.
21:31 And he also had this kind of salute, which is sort of a
21:35 Heil Hitler type of salute, he had both of those.
21:38 He was so severely allergic to so many things,
21:43 that he always carried a box of Kleenex around with him
21:46 all the time, he had Allergic Rhinitis.
21:49 When he got to Uchee Pines he began to eat our typical
21:54 Uchee Pines diet, which is totally vegetarian,
21:57 without any animal products.
21:59 This young man was with us only about six months,
22:04 before he was not carrying a box of Kleenex
22:07 with him all the time.
22:08 I inquired about that, I said what are you doing
22:12 that's different?
22:13 He said nothing really, I'm only eating the diet
22:16 and being very careful with it, I also eliminated all sugar
22:20 from my diet, so that I don't have that anymore.
22:23 He was so thrilled that the fact that he was not having
22:28 to carry the Kleenex around with him anymore, that he shared
22:33 with me this little fear that he had, that when the fall came,
22:38 and we went through the ragweed season, he was quite certain
22:43 that he was going to have to start carrying the Kleenex
22:45 with him again.
22:46 Well, the interesting thing is that the ragweed season came,
22:51 and went, and he did not have to back to the Kleenex.
22:54 We find this frequently, in people, when they find
22:59 one thing, maybe it's diet, causing their allergic rhinitis,
23:04 they may go through all sorts of seasons, spring,
23:11 if they are allergic to the pollens of the spring, or
23:13 summer, if they are allergic to the pollens of the summer,
23:16 or all the fall pollens that come, that make it so difficult
23:22 for people to live through the fall.
23:24 If the person will control one thing that they are allergic to
23:29 most of the time people who have some kind of allergy to an
23:35 airborne pollutant, will also have many food sensitivities.
23:39 Milk is the commonest one, we find that milk gives people
23:42 a lot of disability, so we try very much to get people
23:47 off of milk, if they have any kind of allergy.
23:50 I will say about this man, it's been about 15 years since he
23:57 was at Uchee Pines, and he still has no allergies.
24:00 Another patient I would like to tell you about,
24:03 is one, a 70 year old man, 70+ who came to us with Parkinson's
24:09 Disease, he'd only had it for about a year,
24:11 but he was already taking quite a large number of medications
24:15 for it, he had gotten so he was depressed, and for the last
24:19 several months he had not been able to write
24:22 his checks for his bills, he had no interest in going to church,
24:26 which for this man was very unusual, because was an officer
24:31 in his church, and was always a very faithful church goer.
24:35 When he came to Uchee Pines, his wife brought him,
24:39 and he said I don't know why I'm here, I know that I can't
24:43 get any better, I've got this dreadful disease,
24:45 it's Parkinson's you know, and there's no better for that
24:49 and so I'm just expecting that it will just take me
24:52 down to my grave.
24:54 Well we started working with him, we gave him a good
24:57 vegetarian diet, which he had not been having,
25:00 and we started treating with some herbal anti-hypertension
25:07 medications for his hypertension, we gave him some
25:11 herbal remedies for his sleepless nights,
25:15 and we also gave him fava beans and CoQ10 for his Parkinson's
25:22 Now fava beans have eldopa in them, so we suggested to him
25:28 that he might like to leave off his eldopa, after he had been
25:31 on the fava beans for a few days.
25:33 He also could not walk very far, it was difficult for him to get
25:37 started walking, it was difficult for him
25:39 to get out of a chair, and he could walk only halfway up
25:43 Uchee hill before he had to stop and rest a bit,
25:47 and then turn around and come back.
25:49 After about three days on the fava beans,
25:54 he decided that he would leave off the eldopa,
25:57 right away he was able to go all the way up the hill,
26:01 and before he left at three weeks, he was walking
26:05 all the way around the circle at Uchee Pines and enjoying
26:09 the walk very much.
26:11 He is not yet cured of his Parkinson's, but you can believe
26:16 that when he got back home, he was very eager to keep on the
26:20 very same program that he had learned at Uchee Pines.
26:22 He is now an avid exercise person, whereas before he came
26:28 to Uchee Pines, he wouldn't even get out of his house,
26:31 much less walk, he was very much house bound
26:36 and now he not only walks on the level, but he walks up the hill
26:41 next to his house, even in the rough ground.
26:46 A very good success story with Parkinson's Disease.
26:50 Not all Parkinson's Disease will behave in this way, but
26:54 we believe that enough people with exercise, a proper diet,
26:58 the fava beans, or some other kind of bean that is very high
27:02 in eldopa, such as velvet beans, that these can make it so that
27:08 a person with Parkinson's, can indeed be maintained without
27:13 the medication, and in this man's case, this 70+ year old
27:18 man, he was able also to do without his sleep medication
27:21 and without his medication for his blood pressure.
27:27 Now it's several months since he was at Uchee Pines,
27:30 and he is just doing wonderfully, he calls us
27:33 from time to time, talks much better, moves around much better
27:37 and is going to church again.
27:40 We believe that the Lord has provided for us in nature,
27:46 the ways to handle all kinds of diseases, we just wish
27:50 that we knew them all, and that they had all been
27:53 discovered by now, but maybe the Lord will give us that
27:55 blessing soon.