Participants: Agatha Thrash (Host), Don Miller
Series Code: HYTH
Program Code: HYTH000194
00:01 Some people blame all their problems on their parents.
00:04 If I had just been reared right, I wouldn't have this problem
00:07 or that problem.
00:08 Sometimes parents are blamable but sometimes they aren't.
00:12 We're going to have a discussion on some of the problems
00:15 that teens have now-a-days, and see if we can't get at the
00:19 cause of some of these so that we can have a remedy.
00:22 We hope that you will join us for this program.
00:44 Welcome to Help Yourself to Health
00:46 with Dr. Agatha Thrash, of Uchee Pines Institute,
00:49 and now here is your host Dr. Thrash.
00:52 There are some problems that youngsters have that
00:58 older people have that can be blamed on their
01:02 parents deficiencies.
01:03 I remember one that a lot of people tell me is that
01:07 Oh, I wish my parents had made me practice the
01:11 certain musical instrument, then I could be quite accomplished
01:15 today, but at it is, I am not accomplished on this instrument
01:19 and if only my parents had done the right thing by me.
01:24 Now sometimes the parents should be blamed,
01:28 but sometimes the child is so resistant to any kind of
01:33 suggestion by the parents that a great deal of maneuvering
01:37 has to occur by the parents in order to acquire cooperation.
01:42 To practice piano was one that I studied a good bit.
01:47 My children didn't want to learn music,
01:51 they wanted to be out of doors, they wanted to be
01:54 doing some other kind of activity, they loved to read,
01:57 they wanted to do library research,
01:59 they did not want practice a musical instrument.
02:02 Well, they had certain chores that they always had to do,
02:05 one of those was clear the table and wash the dishes.
02:09 So I would say to them, now I will do this chore
02:14 for you as long as I hear the piano going,
02:17 but once the piano stops, then you have to come
02:20 and do the chore.
02:21 So you can imagine that I heard a lot of piano practice
02:25 as long as I was still washing dishes,
02:27 but when I got through with the dish washing,
02:29 then the piano stopped too.
02:31 Then with making beds, another of my children had to make
02:36 all of the beds in the house.
02:37 I would make the beds if he would do the piano practice.
02:43 So in this way I maneuvered things so that he would do
02:46 the practicing.
02:47 Now if I had not in some way been able to require my children
02:53 to learn music, they would today not be very musical
02:58 because they were certainly not interested in disciplining
03:01 themselves to do that.
03:03 But there are certain problems that parents need to take more
03:08 action in their children's lives, and one of those is
03:12 the physical problem involving the facial complexion.
03:16 Acne can be to a large degree helped by the kind of program
03:21 that the child is on.
03:22 First if the child is not pushed so that maturity occurs
03:28 to early, there is a good chance that the child will have a
03:33 smooth complexion right from the cradle on.
03:38 How is it that one can slow down the maturation
03:42 of the person?
03:44 Well that will be the subject of some our topics
03:46 in this program.
03:47 Now with acne, once the person has it, then there are
03:53 some things that you can do that will help.
03:55 Eliminate all junk foods, whatever it may be,
03:59 just get rid of them.
04:01 Eliminate all dairy products, I have found that dairy products
04:07 are often involved in a child's acne.
04:10 If it isn't involved if you eliminate the dairy products,
04:13 or any other food, and eliminating it does not cause
04:18 a regression in the pimples or the red spots,
04:21 then you may if you wish to add that back to the diet
04:25 you may go back to it.
04:26 Now with fats, fatty foods, especially things like
04:31 peanut butter, chocolate, hot chocolate, candies
04:37 of various kinds which often have shortening of some kind
04:40 in them.
04:41 All sorts of little snack crackers, those should all be
04:45 eliminated, any kind of junk food, anything that comes from
04:48 a vending machine, most things that come from fast food places,
04:52 all of those should be eliminated.
04:54 We should build the menu from the ground up
04:57 so that all the dishes are made from the best foods we can find.
05:02 Now modern dermatologists will sometimes tell you that
05:07 food has nothing to do with acne, that it isn't involved
05:09 with it at all.
05:10 In my experience, I say that these are young men and they
05:14 have not yet had enough experience to know that
05:17 foods are sometimes involved in acne, and a person can
05:21 eliminate a certain aspect of their diet and they are
05:26 much better becoming a full vegan vegetarian
05:31 will go far in eliminating acne in some individuals.
05:36 So I recommend that for people who have acne and it can be
05:40 persons who have acne can sometimes be helped remarkably
05:45 by some changes in diet.
05:47 Also by drinking plenty of water, getting good of exercise
05:51 keeping the extremities warm, all of these things can help
05:55 with acne in some individuals, unfortunately not all of them.
05:59 But they may help, it may not totally eliminate
06:03 and so even if they get some benefit,
06:05 that can be very helpful.
06:07 Another problem that children have now-a-days that they didn't
06:11 used to have is intertrigo.
06:13 Intertrigo is a rash where two skin surfaces fit together,
06:19 so between the folds of the buttocks, under the breasts,
06:24 in any place where there are two... under the arms
06:28 where two skin surfaces maybe in close apposition
06:33 to each other.
06:35 In these instances you may have an intertrigo or a rash
06:39 which often has both the sweat as well as some infectious
06:44 agent, it can be a bacterium, it can be fungus involved
06:49 in the intertrigo.
06:50 The important thing is if the person is over weight
06:54 to have the person loose weight and to keep those surfaces
06:58 separated by some kind of fabric or garment that can be
07:04 worn that holds the surfaces apart, and that can be very
07:08 helpful for that.
07:09 One may also need to use an anti fungus remedy
07:13 such as vinegar, plain vinegar may be all that is required
07:17 if the surface is raw.
07:18 I don't have to tell you that the patient won't want you to
07:21 use vinegar and so you should not, unless you dilute it
07:25 really quite a lot such as one tablespoon in a quart
07:30 of water, then you can acidify the skin and that also helps
07:34 quite a lot.
07:36 Now these problems with teens are on the minor side
07:40 but they can be very irritating and annoying, but there is
07:44 another one teens are now involved in, they didn't used to
07:48 be involved in, and that is osteoporosis.
07:50 I have here Dr. Don Miller who is going to talk with us
07:54 about the subject of osteoporosis,
07:56 especially in young people.
07:58 Do you know that I used to play the piano?
08:00 No, I didn't!
08:01 Well, I took the lessons, and Dr. Thrash has mentioned how
08:04 it's usually the child who doesn't really stay with it...
08:08 I played that Pompa Haydenstead and Gone so many times my family
08:12 says quit playing the piano.
08:13 But she mentioned something interesting,
08:16 that her children would rather be outside playing or
08:19 doing other things, or reading. Those are good things too.
08:22 We have a major problem going on today.
08:25 A few years ago I was flying back from Germany,
08:27 and I was reading one of the airline magazines,
08:30 there was a wonderful article, the title was Sick Kids.
08:34 It said that children today have almost all the diseases
08:38 of older people, and osteoporosis was the first thing
08:41 they talked about.
08:42 It mentioned a number of things, basically three main things
08:47 that's causing the osteoporosis today.
08:49 The first thing that they mentioned,
08:51 and you are going to see this in the literature a lot
08:53 is the over use of soft drinks.
08:55 Now they will go on to say it's replacing milk in the diet.
08:59 That's not the problem, it's just the soft drinks themselves,
09:03 high in phosphoric acid, which causes... matter of fact
09:05 I think that's why they call them soft drinks.
09:07 It causes the bones to loose calcium, making them soft
09:11 and making them brittle, causing their bones to become
09:13 osteoporotic at very young ages.
09:16 So it is lots of colas, whatever the sodas are,
09:21 the children need to get off of the sodas and start drinking
09:24 more decent things like water.
09:26 Water is the best thing in the world that they can drink.
09:29 The second thing is, the junk foods that we have.
09:32 Junk foods are going to be high, almost always in sodium.
09:35 Sodium also, when it's high in the body, causes calcium
09:39 to fall, children need to get away from the high sodium foods.
09:43 Also when they eat a lot of meat products, high in protein,
09:47 when the protein goes up, the calcium goes down.
09:50 And now we are into this protein craze...
09:53 It seems in this country for people who are overweight
09:56 and children are becoming major problems with obesity.
10:01 So we want to get away from the junk foods and
10:04 the high protein foods, get away from the soft drinks,
10:07 and the third thing quite simply get them off the couch
10:11 and out the door, doing something more active.
10:13 We are finding that we are growing a generation,
10:15 maybe even for the last couple of generations,
10:18 that's fixed to the TV, which is fixed to the monitor
10:22 of the computer, which is fixed to the video games,
10:25 and children are no longer getting the exercise that
10:27 they used to get.
10:28 I remember when I was a child, no one stayed in the house
10:32 on a nice day.
10:33 Even when it was a bad day you did not want to stay in
10:36 the house, you are outside playing, whatever it was that
10:39 you were going to play but we were always in the streets.
10:41 Of course back then the streets were a little bit safer,
10:43 and I know that parents are in between a rock and a hard place
10:47 Send them outside the door, it's no more safer in there
10:50 than maybe it is in front of your television, but find
10:52 a safe place and find some type of activity a child can get
10:57 involved in and this scourge of today's society of
11:03 childhood osteoporosis...
11:05 The last thing the author of this article said in this
11:07 magazine is, parents, your children are just little yous,
11:13 and his recommendation was, clean up your act,
11:16 your children are going to see you, they can do
11:18 exactly what you do.
11:19 Get your life together, show your children a good example
11:25 of health and of a healthy lifestyle, and your children
11:28 will try to emulate that pattern.
11:30 I remember one time I was sitting there at the table
11:33 when I was just a little boy, and my father was eating,
11:35 I wanted to be just like my dad, so every time he put
11:38 that spoon to his mouth, I put the spoon to my mouth
11:41 I was amazed to find out that I finished my bowl of soup
11:44 the same time he finished his bowl of soup.
11:46 Children will look at their parents and try to emulate them,
11:50 give them something to emulate, very few parents today
11:53 Dr. Thrash do that.
11:54 Yes, that is a major problem that the parents do not make
11:58 proper role models.
12:00 Another way that parents need to supervise the work of their
12:05 children is in the way that they brush the teeth.
12:08 They need to teach their child exactly how to brush the teeth,
12:13 and the proper way is with the tooth brush they do a
12:16 jiggling motion at about a 45 degree angle with the teeth.
12:21 so at the gum line, the brushing is done at that area.
12:27 Then some brushing down in this way so that almost
12:31 individual teeth are brushed, that can be very helpful
12:34 as well to remove food particles from between
12:37 the teeth.
12:38 Carious teeth are a serious problem with children
12:42 and as a child grows older, the carious teeth that they
12:46 develop in early childhood can become a thing that
12:51 shortens their life, or makes them more susceptible to
12:54 other kinds of diseases including such things as
12:57 heart disease and strokes.
12:59 The strength of the teeth is an important thing.
13:02 Flossing should never be overlooked once a child is
13:06 old enough and has permanent teeth, they should be taught
13:10 how to take off a piece of dental floss, maybe about
13:14 a foot long, wrap it around the fingers and learn how to
13:19 tease it between the teeth and remove everything that is
13:23 between the teeth, including the plaque that builds up
13:26 between meals and overnight.
13:28 So the floss should actually be rubbed against both tooth
13:33 surfaces in between the teeth, so it is rubbed against this
13:37 tooth and it is rubbed against this tooth to remove the plaque
13:40 that might be building up there.
13:42 Dried fruits are very important as a caries promoter,
13:50 so dried fruit should always be followed by brushing and
13:55 flossing. Dried fruit can be used for a meal
13:59 and two or three times a day should both floss and brush.
14:05 Especially important is that the third meal, if there is a
14:09 third meal of the day, that meal be brushed and flossed
14:14 after so that there will not be a build up overnight
14:17 of acids inside the mouth.
14:20 Now an appeal for a two meal plan for children, most children
14:25 in today's world need only two meals a day,
14:28 that's at beginning about the age of two or three.
14:32 You can train the child to a two meal plan that instantly
14:37 diminishes the risk of getting cavities.
14:40 The more times a day that a person eats, the greater the
14:43 risk of getting cavities.
14:45 This can be minimized by flossing and brushing
14:49 that a person can do.
14:51 It's an important thing for us to know that our children
14:58 today are very much overweight, parents in fact they control
15:05 the weight of the child, and they should be assertive
15:10 in this area and make certain that their children are not
15:13 overweight, so I've asked Dr. Miller to talk with you
15:16 about this problem in teens and children.
15:19 I remember when I was in grade school there was
15:21 a very fleeting instance of an overweight child
15:26 and they were always the brunt of all of the jokes and they are
15:31 always on the low side of the pecking order, which was really
15:34 unfortunate things for the poor children.
15:36 Things haven't changed as much as being on the lower end
15:40 of the pecking order, but it certainly has changed in
15:43 how many people fall into that category now in our schools.
15:46 Young people are plagued today, it is a pandemic, of basically
15:51 a problem with the western world of obesity in children.
15:54 Of course that opens the door to many many other problems
15:58 and they are going to come down the line.
15:59 What causes obesity in children, well, it basically takes it's
16:03 very beginning in infancy, the way a child is fed.
16:07 It seems like mothers now are going more and more away from
16:11 breast feeding and going into putting them on to the formulas
16:15 and the formulas are often based on some animal products
16:19 in there which is going to accelerate the growth
16:20 and as the child grows more they are weaned on to more
16:24 animal products, which are all basically made.
16:27 You think back in the 1950's the average cow was producing
16:32 about 12 quarts of milk per day, now it's up to around
16:35 23 or 24 quarts a day.
16:38 There is something that has changed drastically,
16:40 in the 50's the 12 quart of milk cow was one of the champion
16:45 cows, it was more like 8 to 9 quarts.
16:47 All of these growth hormones are passing into the child
16:52 causing them to get more weight, also the junk foods of today,
16:57 they are empty calories, they have a lot of calories,
17:00 they are going to go straight to the wrong places of the body,
17:03 we need to get away from there.
17:04 But another one of the main problems is the way they spend
17:08 their lives, they spend their lives in front of monitors
17:12 basically television and computer monitors.
17:14 They have found that children who watch television have a
17:19 slower metabolism, than a child who is sort of sitting down
17:23 doing nothing else besides watching television.
17:26 Metabolism gets very slow, which means that you are going to
17:29 start getting very large.
17:31 I've often been asked this question after I've said
17:35 something like this, well do you mean watching 3ABN
17:38 is not good for my child?
17:40 I want you to do a little experiment, watch this program
17:44 and mark on a piece of paper for the time that you are
17:48 watching this half hour, how many times the scene changes,
17:52 then the next time that you are in a department store that
17:55 has one of those big banks of televisions,
17:58 I want you to stand back so you aren't infected by
18:01 what they are showing, and mark down, have a stop watch
18:05 or a watch with a second hand, and see how many times the scene
18:09 changes in even one minute.
18:11 You are going to find the scene changes many many times
18:15 sometimes every three to four seconds you have a different
18:17 scene, a different shot, a different camera,
18:19 a different whole situation, and when this happens
18:22 the mind finally gets to the point where it says,
18:24 we are out of here, it goes into a sort of delta wave
18:29 pattern, you are not processing the information which sometimes
18:34 is good, but the bad part of it is, if you are seeing it
18:37 it is going somewhere in this head.
18:39 When you watch your television like this, it slows down your
18:43 process and you start getting a larger frame, but also
18:47 as you are watching these programs they are advertising
18:50 things that are made to promote obesity.
18:53 They are not going to say eat these things and it is going to
18:55 make you fat, no that's not what they are saying,
18:57 but they are going to make you fat, they are going to be high
18:59 in fat, high in sugar, high in sodium, high is whatever it is
19:04 that causes our bodies to grow larger.
19:07 So we need to stay away from those types of things that
19:09 causes a child... I've been in grocery stores
19:11 and you see the mother pushing the child through the isles
19:15 and pretty soon they come to a certain product that
19:17 apparently that child saw on cartoons just this morning,
19:20 I WANT THAT, and they will throw a tantrum until the mother
19:23 puts two boxes of it into the cart, and the child is now
19:28 The trouble is that very food is going to cause them to be
19:32 obese, which is going to make them handicapped in many ways
19:37 for the rest of their lives, both psychologically,
19:40 emotionally, socially, physically, every way that
19:45 you can think of.
19:46 Obesity is not a good thing, now if you are trying to go
19:49 assume a wrestler, go right ahead, but I would suggest
19:52 that we do not turn our children into Sumo wrestlers in their
19:56 infancy and in their childhood and in their teen years,
19:58 you are just short changing them in their lives,
20:01 so get them out exercising, get them on good food
20:04 and we might eliminate this problem.
20:06 It would certainly go far toward helping with that.
20:09 While I have not seen a child have a heart attack, I have seen
20:15 children with hardening of the arteries at a very early age.
20:20 We used to say that hardening of the arteries was a problem
20:23 with advanced old age, but now we are seeing it in children.
20:29 In fact, even in World War II there was not an autopsy done
20:34 on an American soldier that didn't show rather advanced
20:38 hardening of the arteries, reports are rather stunning
20:42 in this regard.
20:44 We want to do what we can to keep our children from getting
20:48 heart disease later in life.
20:49 We are seeing heart attacks earlier and earlier,
20:54 and the more the person weighs, the greater the chance is that
20:57 they will get both the heart attack and a stroke,
21:00 so we are combating that by combating the wrong habits
21:05 in childhood.
21:06 Make certain that your child's cholesterol is not high,
21:09 that the triglycerides are not high, blood sugar is not high,
21:13 and that their homocysteine level is not high, they can get
21:17 high homocysteine even very early in life.
21:23 There also may be some other markers of potential problems
21:27 in the future, Fibrinogen may be high, C-reactive protein
21:32 may be high, these are all laboratory tests,
21:35 one can easily obtain these from ordinary clinical
21:41 laboratories, such as in a hospital, or one of the
21:44 stand alone laboratories that are very freely available
21:50 Now along with these dietary problems and physical problems
21:55 comes some mental problems such as depression.
21:58 Depression is childhood is becoming far more common,
22:01 even in infancy, and I would like Dr. Miller to talk with us
22:05 a little bit about the subject of Depression in Childhood.
22:08 I mentioned a little bit ago about this article I read
22:11 in this magazine in the airline flying out of Germany.
22:14 One of the thing that he mentioned was depression,
22:17 and he said something so startling in this article
22:20 he said that children today... your average child out there
22:23 in the homes has more anxiety than a child who is a
22:27 psychiatric patient in the 1950's,
22:30 there is something gone wrong with our society.
22:33 I read an interesting book a few years ago and it's...
22:36 Forgive the subject, or the title, it's called On Killing,
22:40 basically it was a book on the subject of killing,
22:43 not murder, but basically the mindset of the
22:48 military man going to the Revolutionary War up to Vietnam.
22:53 I would say that now it goes beyond Vietnam to the
22:55 other wars that have come since then, and basically
22:59 what they found out is back in the Revolutionary War,
23:02 the war of 1812, the Civil War, World War I, World War II,
23:07 even Korean War, that only about 10% of the soldiers
23:11 in combat actually aimed their gun with the intent to take
23:14 a man's life, because there is something in a human body
23:19 that says this isn't what I want to be doing right now.
23:22 They found in Vietnam it was reversed 90% did.
23:26 What made the difference in all these years?
23:29 There is one instance in this book, it talked about a
23:33 Civil War Confederate soldier who was at the
23:37 Battle of Gettysburg.
23:39 As he was marching through that field, across that
23:42 long field, up to that wall, they said that upon his death,
23:47 because he was killed in this battle, they checked his weapon
23:50 and they found 26 loads in his weapon.
23:54 That means that he would walk a ways, stop and ram another
23:57 one down there, walk a ways, stop, ram another one,
24:00 he never fired his gun one time.
24:03 Something has changed, we feel like the depression we have
24:08 right now is because we have changed in our whole society.
24:12 We have things called situational ethics today,
24:15 it depends on the situation, how you are going to respond
24:18 to something.
24:19 We find that most teenagers feel like sometimes lying
24:25 is necessary, it depends on the situation, they find that
24:29 suicide is a viable option for their problems.
24:33 There are these things creeping into the society today,
24:36 and I believe it's the society at fault because we are giving
24:39 them false messages.
24:41 They are watching lifestyles on television which are totally
24:45 aberrant, totally foreign to the human organism,
24:49 you see, there is something inside this body that says
24:52 do this, do this right, but they receive these mixed signals.
24:55 A number of years ago when I was in the Marine Corp we
24:59 had a video monitor rolled into our office because they
25:04 had made an advertisement for the Marine Corp, and we wanted
25:08 to watch it to see how it was because I was in Public Affairs,
25:11 it was in the middle of the day, and you know what is on in the
25:14 middle of the day on anything besides 3ABN, it's Soap Operas.
25:18 They filmed this thing... so they put the video into the
25:23 machine, and we watched, of course we got a big section of
25:27 Soap Opera before the add came on because they didn't
25:29 know exactly when it was going to come on, so we sat there,
25:32 it was about 5 minutes worth of Soap Opera before it came on.
25:36 What I saw in that 5 minutes did not leave me for months
25:41 afterwards, there was one bad situation after another
25:44 bad situation, and it made me depressed just to watch it.
25:48 We find that the atmosphere of society that the person is
25:53 growing up in today is depressing.
25:55 Food is depressing, the lifestyle is depressing,
25:58 the fact that there is just no ambition, no drive to get on,
26:02 there is nothing better.
26:03 We are finding today that God has been taken out of the
26:06 schools, out of the homes, out of everywhere,
26:08 and when you are in that situation you cannot help
26:12 but be depressed, so what we need to do is get children back
26:16 in to knowing that there is someone out there that
26:18 really does care.
26:19 We've got to many broken homes, I'm from a broken home,
26:21 broken homes cause a child to loose their bearings,
26:25 and if they have no place else to turn to,
26:27 they are going to turn to things, and we have been seeing
26:29 a lot in the press in the last months about what's happening
26:33 with the anti-depressive drugs for children.
26:36 They are leading them to suicide, which they already
26:39 feel as a viable option Dr. Thrash,
26:41 depression is a major problem with children today.
26:44 Yes it is, and one good thing that we know that can help
26:47 depression is exercise.
26:49 If a person gets out in the sunshine and exercises
26:53 vigorously, that goes far toward taking away the depression,
26:58 and if a person eats a very simple diet, that goes far
27:02 toward taking away the depression.
27:04 If the relationship between the parents and the child
27:08 is a very good one, that also goes far toward helping a person
27:12 to get rid of a depression.
27:14 Now parents sometimes feel that they have no control
27:19 over these matters, but often it is because they
27:23 don't really try.
27:24 I you will make an attempt to get close to your child,
27:29 to have your child to love you, and that you obviously love them
27:34 and that what you are doing for them, the council that you
27:37 give them is for their good, they will often be very
27:41 cooperative with any kind of suggestion that you give.
27:46 If your child loves you, they will usually want to do
27:49 what you want them to do.
27:51 I hope that some of these suggestions will find a good
27:54 lodging for you, and it will help you with your child.