Participants: Don Miller, Agatha Thrash
Series Code: HYTH
Program Code: HYTH000169
00:01 Welcome to "Help Yourself to Health"
00:04 I'm Agatha Thrash from Uchee Pines Institute,
00:06 a place where we try to help people take more responsibility
00:11 for their own health.
00:12 During this next half-an-hour,
00:15 we'll be talking with you about some things having to do
00:17 with the health and some of the diseases of the genital organs,
00:24 so we hope you will join us for this program.
00:47 Welcome to "Help Yourself to Health" with Dr. Agatha Thrash
00:51 of Uchee Pines Institute
00:53 And now, here's your host Dr. Thrash.
00:59 We can be constantly amazed at the way that God has provided
01:05 for our needs to protect our health.
01:10 It's a very firm doctrine of the Bible that God wants
01:16 us to be in health and that He has made every provision
01:19 for that.
01:20 Just take such things as the air that we breathe and
01:24 the temperature of the air, the sun that comes so freely to us,
01:29 and the plants that are everywhere.
01:33 And many of these have foods that they produce that are ours
01:37 free for the taking, like many of the berries and a lot
01:40 of the nuts.
01:42 And I'd like to talk with you about some of these foods now
01:46 and just what they do.
01:48 I have a review here of some of the plants that are used
01:55 in epilepsy... in the treatment of epilepsy.
01:57 In other countries of the world,
01:59 they are a little bit advanced over us than this country
02:02 in the treatment of epilepsy using plants and
02:05 here is one in the United Kingdom...
02:08 plants that are known for their anticonvulsant activity.
02:14 Let me just read a small paragraph from this report
02:17 that came out in the medical journal called, "Seizure"
02:21 in the year 2000.
02:24 It was in the month of September if anyone wants to take a look
02:28 at this article.
02:29 "Many plants are known for their anticonvulsant activity.
02:33 Various phytochemicals... now a phytochemical is simply a
02:38 nutrient or a chemical or sometimes a medicine
02:42 that comes from a plant... "phyto" means plant.
02:45 So, these are plant chemicals, and pharmacologic studies...
02:49 phytochemical and pharmacologic studies have been carried out
02:52 on these anticonvulsant plants.
02:56 In fact, a review article was previously published with regard
02:59 to plants with anticonvulsant activity. "
03:03 Thus, the aim of this particular group of researchers
03:07 was to review all of this and to add the benefits of their
03:11 research as well.
03:13 Now what they found was that people with epilepsy
03:17 could be benefited by taking a diet high in those foods
03:21 having an anticonvulsant activity.
03:24 Well, that's very interesting and very helpful to know.
03:28 Very helpful for people who have epilepsy.
03:31 We had one patient at Uchee Pines who, after he changed
03:36 to simply a totally vegetarian diet, went for a whole year
03:40 without a seizure, whereas he had been having about
03:44 one seizure per week.
03:46 Then he had another seizure and it was discovered that he
03:49 had eaten something that he was sensitive to that
03:52 made him have another seizure.
03:54 I wish I could say that all people with epilepsy
03:57 would respond just as nicely.
03:59 But we can't say that, not all people will and, in fact,
04:02 in the study that I was just telling you about,
04:05 not all of the patients responded to the plant-based
04:09 diet and those plants that are known to have anticonvulsant
04:13 Then, here is some work on plants that have an
04:20 antiviral effect.
04:23 The elderberries...
04:24 Elderberry plant grows in sort of marshy areas in many places
04:29 of the United States and these berries have an antiviral effect
04:35 So a person about to take a cold can take some of these berries
04:40 and it's a very great help to them.
04:42 These same berries have an insulin-like effect and so
04:47 it's been found that people who have diabetes will respond
04:51 nicely to the elderberries.
04:54 Then, here's a report about people having a reduction in
04:59 cholesterol by having plants or plant foods that are high
05:05 in the plant sterols.
05:08 "Sterols," now that's a word that's very similar to
05:10 some words which we are familiar having to do with
05:14 hormones, like estrogen.
05:16 The "strogen" part is really a little take-off on sterol
05:22 or steroidal substances.
05:24 Of course we know that steroids come from the adrenal gland
05:29 as well.
05:30 And then the testes also produce testosterone and the
05:34 sterone part is part of the sterols.
05:37 So, there are many plants that have sterols in them...
05:40 common plants, like apples and tomatoes and cherries and beans
05:45 especially soybeans, and all the nuts and all the whole grains.
05:50 They all have the plant sterols and they have a very protective
05:54 effect for us against the overproduction of such hormones
05:59 as testosterone and estrogens in the human body.
06:04 So these plants protect us against the over-stimulatory
06:08 effect of some of these.
06:10 And then, of course, certain vegetable proteins
06:14 and certain fibers help to lower the blood cholesterol.
06:19 Very interesting things having to do with plants and their
06:24 specific effects...
06:26 Effects that were there from the very beginning of
06:31 the life of these plants... when the Lord made them back
06:35 before the Garden of Eden... when He made them in the
06:39 first week of Creation.
06:42 At that time, He put these chemicals in there...
06:45 these phytochemicals in these plants so that they could be
06:49 a great help to us.
06:51 Now here is a report on "ginkgo biloba"
06:55 This is a plant that comes from a tree... a leaf that comes
06:59 from a tree and the ginkgo biloba has been used in
07:04 the treatment of memory...
07:05 and many reports will show that it's good for the memory...
07:09 an occasional report will show that it had no effect on
07:13 the memory... but I think we should pay attention to those
07:17 great majority of reports that do show that ginkgo biloba
07:22 has a good effect on the memory.
07:24 In fact, people that I have talked with recognize
07:28 that it has helped them...
07:29 And, I look at it this way,
07:31 if it's a placebo effect and it helps them... fine.
07:35 The placebo effect is one thing that God has given us...
07:38 It's not something that we generate ourselves,
07:40 and so, if it helps us by placebo effect,
07:43 I'm very happy with that, if it's a help, it's a help.
07:46 But this one showed that ringing in the ears,
07:49 in 4 of the 5 reports that are summarized here in this article,
07:55 they showed that ringing in the ears was helped by ginkgo biloba
07:59 Sometimes people will not use a great enough quantity
08:03 to make it helpful.
08:06 But, if we use enough and not too much,
08:09 then we can be helped by the ginkgo biloba.
08:13 Now, we know that there are certain plant chemicals
08:16 that can help various... of our genital organs such as
08:20 the breasts, the ovaries, the prostate, the uterus and
08:26 those organs that have to do with reproduction.
08:29 And I have asked Dr. Winn Horsley, who is
08:32 one of my colleagues at Uchee Pines, if he would assist me
08:35 in talking some about these things having to do with
08:39 women's disorders, like fibroids and menopause.
08:45 What would you like to tell us about that would be helpful
08:48 to our listeners about these problems.
08:52 Well, you've already given a number of the foods that I
08:56 even had on my list here regarding that.
09:00 This is quite an interesting topic, and I believe even the
09:06 approach at Uchee Pines has changed in the past years.
09:09 Now, what one could say is that these phytosterols
09:14 that are acting as a gentle hormone...
09:17 In the case of menopause, you're getting a gentle female hormone
09:24 effect, so that when the hormones from the ovaries
09:28 for instance, have basically shut down, then you're still
09:31 getting a little bit of gentle hormonal stimulation.
09:35 And so it's clear there, why the person would feel better.
09:39 There would not be an abrupt change in the hormonal
09:41 pattern... not so abrupt a change.
09:45 But, here's another situation, a woman who has fibroids
09:51 in the uterus which are definitely affected by the level
09:56 of female hormones in the blood, or for that matter,
09:59 breast cancer... which often, they nowadays check the
10:02 sensitivity even to estrogens and progesterone...
10:06 Many of them are sensitive to those levels.
10:08 Well, one used to think that then those foods that have those
10:15 phytosterols, we should avoid them completely because...
10:18 Yes... that was our thought in the beginning... That's right.
10:20 And then, it became clear, gradually, that in fact,
10:25 if you have those phytosterols, they block the heavy stimulation
10:29 that occurs from one's own strong hormones...
10:35 and so you get a tremendous benefit by having those.
10:37 It's quite the opposite of what one might've thought originally
10:40 And while we can say that the strength of the stimulus of
10:45 these native hormones is strong, the plant sterols are also
10:52 effective and they can affect us in a way that we can alter
10:58 the menopausal syndrome symptoms.
11:03 I remember reading about a case that perhaps you...
11:07 someone at Uchee Pines did a nutrition for vegetarians with
11:09 an older woman where it actually brought about
11:12 a hormonal effect in her.
11:16 Yes, that was Dr. Calvin Thrash who did that experiment.
11:19 The woman came with some problem.
11:24 I don't remember what her basic problem was but...
11:26 She also had not had a menstrual period for 4 years.
11:33 And so he was wondering if it would be possible to reduce the
11:38 plant sterols in her diet and induce her to have a little
11:44 bleeding of menstrual type.
11:47 Because the thing that causes the monthly bleeding is a fall
11:51 in the female hormones.
11:53 So he thought... he reasoned if he could remove all the plant
11:57 sterols, maybe she would have a little bleeding.
12:00 So, he did just that.
12:02 I remember the struggle that we had to eliminate all the
12:06 foods that had plant sterols in them... they are so
12:09 abundant in so many foods... so many plant foods and still we
12:15 didn't want to go to a meat based diet for her and
12:18 milk-based diet.
12:19 So we fashioned a diet for her and we had a cutoff date...
12:25 And, sure enough, 4 days later, she had a tiny little
12:29 menstrual bleeding... Interesting
12:31 She was a very good guinea pig for that.
12:35 That was our first try on that.
12:39 I wanted to mention, there are some that actually are quite
12:45 concentrated in the amount of phytosterols that there are.
12:52 In this little list that I made just a couple of days ago,
12:56 it had some of the fruits that you mentioned... apples,
13:01 cherries, and then other foods, olives, and so on...
13:06 But the one that, in the list of foods, that had the largest
13:12 number of milligrams per, say 100 grams, was...
13:18 if you set aside ones that are just very rare, bizarre things
13:23 like chestnut oil and so on... that kind of thing.
13:27 The one that really was at the top, I would say, is sesames
13:31 and sesame oil which is a large constituent of sesame seeds...
13:36 So, that was one... was sesame seeds.
13:42 I don't think most people use sesame oil alone directly,
13:47 but if you use tahini, which is a very popular product,
13:49 a large percentage of tahini is the oil.
13:52 That's sesame butter... That's sesame butter, so
13:55 in that, you are getting possibly the most concentrated
13:59 form of the phytosterols of all the more common foods.
14:03 So, since our postulate is that taking these phytosterols
14:09 will protect you against prostate cancer or breast cancer
14:13 then it would be good for us to encourage people to take
14:17 these foods.
14:18 I think so... I agree.
14:20 And besides that, they're good foods... Oh, they are
14:25 I have one objection for myself about tahini butter
14:27 I can't help but think that my reaction to tahini,
14:31 the sesame butter... where I get pimples in my nose and so on
14:36 that either that particular oil has an awfully much stronger
14:42 effect than other oils on me,
14:43 OR, there actually is enough of those phytosterols to be
14:45 producing like an adolescent reaction.
14:48 Acne-type products... That's right.
14:49 That's interesting.
14:50 A second one down among very common foods...
14:54 In fact, perhaps right up at the top of common foods in the world
14:58 although we don't eat so much rice, the Orientals eat
15:01 tremendous amounts and rice bran is very high
15:05 in phytosterols.
15:07 You know, that reminds me that certainly in the Orient,
15:10 you will find rice and sesame seed in a preparation.
15:16 And, almost every table in the Orient will be...
15:21 ...in restaurants at least, and in the private homes where
15:24 I have visited, they have these little sesame seed mills
15:27 that you just hold it over your foods sort of like a peppermill
15:31 and grind out the sesame seed at whatever... you can
15:36 put them out whole, dispense them whole,
15:38 or you can put them out ground
15:40 And just do that over your rice or do that over your
15:43 stir fries and you'll get sesame seed there.
15:47 You know, looking at this, just in the last few days
15:52 has made me re-think this issue of Japanese women
15:56 You've heard about this,
15:58 that apparently in the Japanese language,
15:59 there's not even a word for menopause...
16:01 And that they have so little of any particular change
16:06 at that... what we call change of life
16:10 And you know, dramatic thing... all kinds of magazine articles
16:12 about it.
16:14 I and I think many people have attributed that to their use of
16:18 tofu or soy products...
16:20 And there is no question that that has some effect.
16:22 But I think that there is more than just soy that's
16:24 part of that because of their use of sesame and of rice.
16:29 Yes. Well certainly rice is an excellent food too.
16:32 It has a good quality protein.
16:35 It doesn't have a lot...
16:36 I think about 2.5 or 3 or maybe 4 grams/100 grams of rice...
16:42 But the quality is SO good that if you get almost any other kind
16:47 of food in your diet, you're going to get a good quality
16:50 protein with rice in the diet.
16:52 Now you were telling me a little earlier that, concerning the
16:57 prostate, there are some exercises that a man can do
17:02 that can help with the prostate.
17:05 Yes, I think we should call on Don Miller to give us a little
17:12 demonstration of some of the things.
17:14 Prostate congestion really probably is a big problem.
17:19 Maybe it's a background, I'm not sure that enough research
17:22 has been done on this.
17:24 One thing that has been noted and commented on...
17:28 A missionary doctor to India, Paul Brand, a neurosurgeon,
17:32 noted that domestic dogs have often quite a bit of prostate
17:41 trouble and apparently difficulty with urination;
17:44 whereas, when you look at wild dogs, no trouble at all.
17:46 Well the thing about domestic animals, we of course require
17:48 them to not dirty the floor.
17:51 Whereas, an animal out in the wild goes when it wants.
17:54 Which makes one think we should be a little more quick
17:58 in responding to those urges.
17:59 So, if we used the muscles down in the pelvic region,
18:05 contraction and relaxation of those to help with blood flow
18:12 we may be helping those pelvic organs quite a lot.
18:15 And so there are some very simple exercises that have been
18:18 designed specifically for this.
18:20 And I wonder... Don..
18:21 Don Miller, come right over here and let's see what exercises
18:24 these are.
18:35 I have the outline of a few of them.
18:36 One of them is on all 4's... going down on all 4's
18:40 then one alternately lifts one leg first, like this
18:46 and then lets it down.
18:47 Now when a person does this,
18:49 raise the right one now, Don...
18:50 You're using the buttock muscles to extend the hip, to get the
18:55 leg to go out straight.
18:57 Let it down.
18:58 Okay, alternating like that back and forth is working
19:05 those muscles around the pelvic rim.
19:09 In our book here, it actually talks about if a person is
19:12 having difficulty with urination...
19:14 having a tap running... just that somehow, it has an effect
19:20 in helping a person when they finish, a few times of doing
19:22 this, they'll have an easier urination.
19:25 You know, as I am watching this, I think that women could
19:28 benefit from this as well... I wouldn't doubt it.
19:31 To strengthen the pelvic muscles and to encourage
19:34 circulation there so that they would have less painful
19:38 Good! Don.
19:40 Now the next one is a simple enough looking thing but I
19:44 don't think it's easy for balance...
19:45 So why don't you stand and show us this one and
19:48 grab me if you need to.
19:49 In this one, you lift one leg and you do some swings
19:54 or circles with the foot and the whole leg on the one side.
19:59 Now this requires quite a bit of exertion in these proximal hip
20:04 muscles... I think that you're doing worse with me holding you
20:08 Okay... and done for several minutes, just before urinating
20:15 this can help with the urination just afterwards.
20:20 One other one, is a curious one.
20:24 The person sits down on the floor and then he's going to
20:29 lift off the floor, so the buttocks are completely clear
20:32 of the floor and then, he goes over to one side...
20:34 He is letting the right buttock touch and then the left
20:37 and going from side to side like this.
20:41 And that pressure down on the pelvic region, on the buttocks,
20:46 can make a difference in terms of fluid flow, and getting
20:52 that whole region to have the circulation going more easily.
20:59 All of these may be a help with this issue of congestion
21:04 in pelvic organs... So thank you very much.
21:07 Yes. Well, I appreciate that and certainly in today's society
21:13 where we have men who do not exercise a lot...
21:17 They are likely to get congestion in the pelvis
21:21 and I can see how these exercises would massage
21:24 the prostate and strengthen the muscles there so that the
21:29 muscles can assist in urination.
21:33 And urination problems are a big symptom.
21:36 Oh, you know, I don't want to say 100% but I would guess
21:41 it's 80% or more of men at some point... as they get to
21:46 and past 60, it becomes an issue...
21:50 Perhaps we should say something about some more of the
21:53 phytochemicals with respect to prostate enlargement...
21:56 Very good... I wish we would because men need to understand
22:00 that we are not powerless against disease.
22:04 There are many things that God has given to us,
22:06 even in this very sinful world that can be helpful.
22:10 So what would you like to tell us?
22:12 Well, you know, there are drugs that are used for this.
22:16 Unfortunately, the drugs, as is almost always the case,
22:20 the drugs will have side effects.
22:23 And since these are drugs affecting an organ that is
22:27 closely connected with reproduction...
22:29 you know there are going to be hormonal side effects and
22:33 side effects in connection with urination and so on.
22:37 They are really undesirable and often there might even be
22:39 other ones like high blood pressure.
22:41 Well, many people have already heard about one of these
22:46 plant products and here I don't think we need to talk about
22:49 The whole herb is well-known.
22:51 It's saw palmetto...
22:54 Saw palmetto grew near my home town in
22:58 Baxley, Georgia where I grew up.
23:00 The word, I think, came from Spanish originally.
23:03 Palmetto means a little palm tree.
23:05 It is a little palm.
23:07 It grows from about this high to
23:09 as high as my head and a little over.
23:10 I've never seen the plant, I'd like to see it sometime.
23:11 Oh, it's beautiful... it has a beautiful flower and then
23:15 the berries form and they are not very nice-tasting berries.
23:18 And I think it is the berries that are used... That's right.
23:22 But the heart of the palm which is right down near the root, is
23:25 delicious... Oh
23:26 High protein and it also is high in plant sterols.
23:30 Saw palmetto would be a first one to mention for this
23:35 difficulty in urination.
23:36 By the way, the symptom that we are talking about with
23:38 prostate enlargement is difficulty initiating that
23:42 stream of urination.
23:43 That's perhaps the most prominent symptom,
23:46 and often called "hesitancy. "
23:47 And then, if that's gets strong enough...
23:51 if that is bad enough, it can be difficult to get urine
23:54 coming at all, and they might have to put in a catheter.
23:59 Other problems can follow that.
24:02 You've got the urine building up and urinary infection and so on.
24:06 There are a number of other symptoms.
24:07 Well, we should mention another plant that really does
24:11 help with this.
24:12 I believe this one is from Africa.
24:14 It's "Pygeum"... I've heard some people pronounce it "piegeum"
24:21 Pygeum, if we want to give a dose... I have one here of
24:26 50 mg twice a day.
24:28 You buy that as a pill or a capsule?
24:31 I've seen it usually in capsules
24:33 I don't know what others think
24:36 but I'm not happy with telling people to use whole capsules
24:40 because of the fact that 90% or more of them
24:42 are made from animal gelatin.
24:44 ...that hasn't been clarified as to its safety.. Yes
24:48 So it's a little bit iffy now.
24:51 If a person can just tolerate dumping the contents
24:54 of the capsule out into something and then taking it
24:57 There are others that have been shown to be of some help.
25:02 I know of "nettles. "
25:05 Nettles do help and so those kind of things are often
25:11 sold in a mixture for men's health.
25:18 I have here a rather long list of various herbal and
25:26 other products that are put together for prostate
25:30 hypertrophy problems.
25:32 There's even an amino acid that is said to give some help.
25:36 You know, if all else fails, does a man sometimes
25:41 have to get an operation for the prostate?
25:44 Well, at times it may be necessary...
25:48 And I certainly wouldn't say that it's never needed.
25:53 There might be some complications of surgery...
25:57 What are those?
25:59 Well, one of the big ones is that in trying to shave out...
26:06 carve out from the inside when you do what's called a
26:09 transurethral resection,
26:11 then you can come too near one of the sphincter muscles that
26:17 hold the urine and, therefore, a person can have incontinence.
26:21 And so, of course, that's a very bothersome problem.
26:24 And then sometimes marital relations can be difficult after
26:29 or impossible after certain types of prostate surgery...
26:33 I don't know whether the one that does the paring or
26:37 the reaming out... I don't know whether that one is associated
26:40 I think probably the most would be with the abdominal,
26:44 or even the ones where they do an open approach
26:47 through skin where they may easily transect
26:50 one of the nerves to the reproductive organs.
26:54 Well, we have just a couple of seconds left.
26:57 Do you have anything special that you would like to...
27:00 more that you would like to add.
27:02 I am just so impressed by this whole topic of phytochemicals
27:10 and the fact that God designed them...
27:13 and that when we think we know all about foods,
27:17 that shows how ignorant we are.
27:19 That's for sure... because I can remember very well
27:21 when physicians everywhere were saying foods have nothing
27:28 to do with cancer.
27:29 They have no influence on cancer...
27:32 Of course, no physician who has been trained in the last
27:35 20 years perhaps, would ever say such a thing...
27:38 because foods now, we are very well aware have a lot to do
27:43 with cancer and with many other things.
27:45 We can just take the list of phytochemicals and make a
27:49 designed diet for people with various diseases.
27:52 We can thank our
27:53 loving, Heavenly Father for that.