Participants: Steve Wohlberg
Series Code: HVT
Program Code: HVT000038A
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00:08 Will a God of love finally take those
00:11 who don't believe in Him 00:13 and throw them into hell 00:14 where they will burn forever and ever? 00:17 Is this a biblical fact, or a myth, 00:20 we're about to find out on His Voice Today. 00:26 Welcome to another His Voice Today 00:29 with Steve Wohlberg. 00:34 Welcome to the hot topic of hell part two. 00:37 Let me just quickly review some of the things 00:39 we talked about in part one. 00:40 We're discussing what the Bible says 00:42 and doesn't say about hell. 00:45 And we looked at Matthew 13:40, 00:48 where Jesus clarified that there is real fire, 00:51 but that it will burn at the end of the world. 00:53 We also looked up 2 Peter 3:7 00:56 where Peter said the same thing 00:58 that the atmosphere and the earth itself 01:00 will burn up on the Day of Judgment 01:03 at the end of the world. 01:05 And we also looked at the Book of Revelation 20, 01:08 that describes the thousand year period 01:11 and in verses 11-15, 01:13 John saw in vision the lost being resurrected 01:17 at the end of the millennium 01:19 and then they are judged 01:21 and then they are thrown into the lake of fire 01:23 for their punishment. 01:25 And all of these verses tell us that 01:27 there is a real fire, but it's not burning now, 01:30 it's coming in the future 01:32 on the Day of Judgment and at the end of the world. 01:35 Now, most people when they think about hell, 01:39 that's really not what they think. 01:40 They imagine or believe 01:43 that hell is a fiery place way down 01:46 under the ground somewhere down below our feet, 01:48 where the lost are burning right now. 01:51 And where the lost souls 01:53 of those that don't believe in God, 01:55 they go down there at the point of death to suffer. 01:58 Some believe that the devil's down there, 02:00 that his demons are down there 02:02 and that they are literally torturing people 02:04 with some kind of instruments like pitchforks. 02:07 But the fact is that there really is 02:10 no verse in the New Testament except for one 02:14 which we'll look at in a moment 02:15 that really teaches this or seems to teach this concept. 02:19 It's not in the Book of Matthew, 02:20 it's not in the Book of Mark, 02:21 it's not in the Book of John, it's not in the Book of Acts, 02:24 it's not in all the writings of Paul, 02:26 the Apostle Paul who wrote most of the New Testament 02:28 never taught anywhere that the soul of a lost person 02:32 who dies goes under the ground to place of burning. 02:35 That concept is totally foreign to the teachings of Paul. 02:39 It's not in the Book of Jude, 02:41 it's not in the Book of James, 02:43 it's not in 1 and 2 Peter, 02:45 and it's not in the Book of Revelation, 02:47 and that is something to ponder. 02:49 There is one place however which is in Luke 16, 02:53 which is the main passage that people interpret 02:57 to mean that a lost soul goes under the ground, 03:01 leaves his body and goes down 03:03 at the point of death to suffer. 03:05 So let's examine this, it's in Luke 16, 03:08 and it starts in verse 19. 03:10 Jesus said, "There was a certain rich man 03:14 who was clothed in purple and fine linen 03:17 and he fared sumptuously every day." 03:20 Verse 20, "There was a certain beggar named Lazarus, 03:22 who was laid at his gate, full of sores." 03:26 And Jesus continues and says eventually in verse 22, 03:29 "That it came to pass, that when the beggar died, 03:32 he was carried by the angels into Abraham's bosom. 03:36 And the rich man also died and he was buried." 03:40 In verse 23, "In hell the rich man lifted up his eyes, 03:45 and being in torments, he saw Abraham afar off, 03:49 and Lazarus in his bosom. 03:51 And he cried and said, 'Father Abraham, 03:53 have mercy on me, and send Lazarus 03:56 that he may dip the tip of his finger in water 03:59 and cool my tongue, 04:01 for I am tormented in this flame.' 04:06 " This is the passage that is quoted 04:10 from the pulpits of the land, 04:11 it's referred to in many books, 04:13 it's talked about by radio preachers 04:17 and it's on television. 04:18 This is the main verse, 04:20 passage that is being used to support 04:24 the teaching of a hell which is under the ground 04:28 where people are suffering right now. 04:30 Now, I'm gonna give you seven reasons why, 04:34 and I think they're good reasons. 04:36 Now, obviously you can take them or leave them, 04:37 but at least think about them. 04:39 I'm gonna give you seven reasons why I believe 04:41 and a lot of other people believe 04:43 that this section in Luke 16 is actually 04:46 what the Bible refers to as a parable 04:49 and that not every detail was meant to be taken literally. 04:54 Reason number one is that it starts just like a parable. 04:58 In Luke 16:19, 05:01 Jesus said, there was a certain rich man. 05:04 Now when you read the Book of Luke, 05:06 when you read in chapter 12 verse 16, 05:09 chapter 13 verse 6, 05:10 chapter 16 verse 1, 05:12 chapter 19 verse 11 and 12, 05:15 chapter 20 verse 9, 05:16 all of these verses clearly say that 05:20 Jesus told parables and stories 05:23 that often started out with phrases like this 05:26 there was a certain rich man. 05:28 I'll just show you one of them 05:30 in Luke 19:11 and 12, 05:34 so you can actually hear it right from the Bible. 05:37 Luke 19:11 and 12, 05:40 the Bible says that... 05:47 Jesus spoke a parable in verse 11. 05:51 And in verse 12 he said, 05:52 "Therefore a certain nobleman went into a far country." 05:55 So there it's a parable in verse 11 and in verse 12, 05:58 it's a certain nobleman. 06:00 And you'll find where Jesus told parables 06:01 where he said a certain rich man did this or that. 06:04 In addition to what we find in Luke 16, 06:08 so that's reason number one, it starts like a parable. 06:11 Reason number two, back to verse 22, 06:14 there are things in this story that are obviously symbolic. 06:17 When the beggar died, 06:19 it says that he was carried by the angels 06:21 into Abraham's bosom. 06:23 Now you can't take this literally, 06:25 because if you take this literally, 06:27 that means that the angels took this poor man 06:30 and deposited him into the chest of Abraham, 06:35 they put him into Abraham's bosom. 06:37 Now obviously that can't be literal 06:40 or Abraham would have to have a huge bosom, 06:42 and why would this man want to be there anyway. 06:44 So reason number two, 06:47 symbolic language is used in verse 22. 06:49 Reason number three is that the rich man 06:53 when he goes down to hell, and he's suffering, 06:55 he is described as being not a disembodied soul, 06:59 but he is described as being in the body 07:01 with eyes and a tongue. 07:04 It says in verse 23 07:06 that in hell he lifted up his eyes, 07:07 so he had eyes. 07:09 And then in verse 24, 07:10 he pleaded with Abraham to send Lazarus 07:13 to take his finger and dip it in water 07:17 and touch his tongue, 07:18 because he was being tormented in this flame, 07:20 so he is represented as a having eyes 07:22 and having a tongue down there in the fire. 07:26 Reason number four is a person can't literally talk in fire. 07:30 And if you don't believe this, 07:31 just take your finger and put it on a hot stove 07:35 and try to carry on any kind of conversation, 07:38 it's really impossible for a person 07:40 to carry on a normal conversation 07:43 while he is burning in any kind of fire or flames. 07:46 So that's reason number four 07:49 why there is lot of symbolism in this passage. 07:52 Reason number five is his request. 07:53 He asked Abraham to send Lazarus 07:57 and to take his finger and dip it in water 08:00 and touch his tongue 08:02 because he was being tormented in this fire. 08:04 Now can you imagine if somebody is literally being burned, 08:06 if his whole body is burning in fire, 08:08 why would he request just a little bit of water 08:11 to touch his tongue? 08:13 You know, if you're really burning in fire, 08:14 you would say father Abraham said Lazarus 08:16 and have him take a bucket and put it all over me. 08:20 Dump the water all over my body, 08:21 because I'm being tormented. 08:23 Now there is a reason why Jesus pinpointed the tongue 08:25 which I'll explain to you in a minute. 08:28 So that's reason number five. 08:30 Reason number six is that 08:33 Abraham starts talking to the rich man 08:37 and the rich man talks back 08:38 and they have this conversation. 08:40 Now can we literally believe that people in heaven 08:43 and people in hell can carry on a normal conversation? 08:47 You know, that's just not something 08:48 that anybody can or hardly anybody can actually 08:51 believe can really happen. 08:54 Now reason number seven is that the rest of the Bible, 08:57 the rest of the New Testament except for Luke 16, 09:01 teaches that the fire occurs at the end of the world, 09:04 that's what Jesus taught in Matthew 13:40, 09:06 that's what Peter taught in 2 Peter 3:7, 09:10 that's what Malachi teaches in Malachi 4:1, 09:13 which we'll look at, 09:15 that's what the Book of Revelation teaches 09:16 in Revelation 20:11-15, 09:19 and there are many, many other verses that say this. 09:21 There is only one place that teaches or appears to teach 09:25 that people go to hell and burn at the moment of death 09:28 and that's the story of the rich man and Lazarus 09:30 and when you put the pieces together, 09:32 all the evidence points to it being a parable 09:34 and you shouldn't build the whole doctrine, 09:36 especially if the doctrine is different 09:38 from the rest of the Bible on one story, 09:41 it just doesn't make sense. 09:42 Now, if it is a parable then is it 09:45 a meaningless parable. 09:46 Once we say it's a parable does that mean that 09:49 it has no lessons for us today? 09:50 Not at all. 09:52 When you look at the context in Luke 16, 09:55 and you look at verse 14, 09:59 here's the context 13-14, 10:01 Jesus was talking to a group of Pharisees 10:04 about how you can't serve God and money at the same time. 10:07 You just can't do it. 10:09 And in verse 14, the Bible says, 10:11 "That the Pharisees also, who were covetous, 10:14 they loved money, they heard these things, 10:15 and they mocked Him, 10:17 they mocked Jesus with their tongues." 10:20 And then in verse 15, 10:23 the Bible says that, Jesus said to them, 10:26 He was talking to rich Pharisees 10:28 who loved money, 10:29 who were mocking him with their tongues 10:31 and who also believe that because they are rich, 10:33 they were definitely going to heaven 10:35 and because you know, 10:36 poor people didn't have any money, 10:37 they would probably go in hell. 10:39 And so Jesus told this story to them 10:41 about a certain rich man who went down, 10:44 the poor man went up, 10:45 he reversed what they previously thought, 10:48 and then the rich man who was in the fire looked up 10:50 and asked Abraham to send Lazarus 10:53 to take his finger and dip in a water 10:55 and touch his tongue, 10:56 because he was being tormented in this fire. 10:59 And Jesus was talking to the rich Pharisees 11:00 who were mocking him with their tongues 11:02 basically trying to give them a solemn warning 11:05 that their tongues were going to lead them 11:07 into the fire if they weren't careful 11:09 and didn't come to believe in Him 11:11 and in His true teachings. 11:13 So put the pieces together and I think the evidence, 11:17 I believe I'm certain, 11:19 I just take my life on it that the evidence is there 11:23 that this story is a parable 11:25 and again let's look at the rest of the Bible, 11:27 and see what the rest of the Bible teaches 11:29 about the hot topic of hell. 11:32 Let's look at some other verses, 11:34 let's go back to Revelation 20, 11:36 which we've looked at in part one. 11:39 Revelation 20 again describes the events 11:42 that occur at the end of the millennium, 11:45 the end of the thousand years 11:46 and it tells us what will happen to the lost, 11:49 how they will eventually be cast into the lake of fire. 11:53 And let's look at where the fire takes place. 11:56 In Revelation 20:7, the Bible says, 11:59 "When the thousand years are expired, 12:01 so this is the end of the millennium, 12:03 Satan shall be loosed out of his prison, 12:05 he will go out to deceive the nations 12:07 which were in the four quarters of the earth, 12:09 Gog, and Magog to gather them together to battle, 12:11 the number of whom is as the sand of the sea." 12:13 This is all the lost at the end of the millennium 12:16 who are being led by the devil to try to fight against God. 12:20 Verse 9 says, "They went up on the breadth of the earth..." 12:24 So they are on the earth and we've already... 12:26 Well, we didn't read this today 12:28 but in the precious program we did that 12:31 the end of the chapter reveals 12:33 that they've been resurrected 12:34 and it also says the same thing in verse 5, 12:36 the rest of the dead did not live again 12:38 until the thousand years were finished, 12:40 so all these people are resurrected 12:41 they are on the earth. 12:43 And verse 9 says, "They are going up, 12:45 up on the breadth of the earth 12:47 and they surround the camp of the saints about, 12:49 which is the New Jerusalem called the beloved city. 12:52 And then it says that fire came down from God 12:54 out of heaven and devoured them." 12:56 So the question is where are they 13:00 when the fire comes down upon them 13:03 and they are punished? 13:05 And the answer is they are upon the earth, 13:08 that's what verse 9 says, 13:09 they went up on the breadth of the earth, 13:11 so they are not under the earth, 13:13 they are on the earth when the fire falls. 13:16 Another point is that 13:17 the fire comes down from God out of heaven, 13:21 and verse 9 says that fire devours them. 13:26 Look up the word devoured in dictionary 13:28 and it's pretty clear that it's a complete destruction. 13:32 So this is the end of the thousand years, 13:34 they're on the earth, 13:35 the fire comes down from God out of heaven 13:38 and it devours them. 13:40 Now to be fair and I always want to be fair, 13:43 verse 10 seems to say something different. 13:46 Verse 10 says, 13:48 "And the devil that deceived them 13:49 was cast into the lake of fire and brimstone, 13:51 where the beast and the false prophet are, 13:53 and they will be tormented day and night forever and ever." 13:56 And here's one of those forever and ever 13:58 text that people look up, 13:59 they look at verse 10 they say Steve, 14:01 don't you understand the Bible says 14:03 that the lost will burn forever and ever, 14:05 that's what verse 10 says. 14:08 Now we really have dilemma here 14:11 that we need to explore 14:12 and try to unpack and understand. 14:15 In verse 9 14:17 John wrote that fire came down from God out of heaven 14:20 and devoured them. 14:21 And then verse 10 talks about them being 14:26 or at least the beast and the false prophet 14:29 being tormented day and night forever and ever. 14:32 So now let's move into the consequences 14:38 and how long this fire burns. 14:40 Does it devour them and so they're gone, 14:44 or does it burn forever and ever 14:47 and they are tormented in this fire for ever and ever. 14:50 Which one's right? Verse 9 or verse 10. 14:53 And there are some pastors that believe in verse 9 14:55 and they say no, 14:56 God's gonna just devour them and they are gonna be gone 14:58 and that's it. 14:59 And other pastors look at verse 10 and they say no, 15:02 they're gonna be tormented day and night forever and ever. 15:04 So a lot of people sometimes debate the subject 15:07 which really is what we we're doing, 15:09 we're looking at both sides trying to figure out 15:11 which view is right. 15:12 So which view is right? 15:14 Well, let me say that I believe in the whole Bible, 15:17 I don't believe one verse is wrong 15:18 and one verse is right, 15:19 I believe both verses are right. 15:22 And let me, before I give you my opinion on this 15:24 and take a close look, 15:25 let me ask you which verse do you like better? 15:28 Which concept do you like better? 15:29 Do you like the idea 15:31 that the lost will eventually be gone 15:32 that they will be devoured, burned up 15:34 and they won't suffer for ever, 15:35 or do you like the fact 15:37 that they will be tormented forever and ever. 15:40 You know, think about your relatives, 15:41 think about those, you know, that don't know Jesus, 15:43 think about the masses of humanity, 15:46 and would you rather have them 15:47 just be gone at the end of the world, 15:49 because they didn't love God 15:51 and God just pulls the plug on their existence 15:52 and it's over, 15:54 or would you rather have them suffering for all eternity. 15:57 Well, I would hope that our humanity 16:00 would say that we really would like it to be the first option 16:06 that those who don't believe in Jesus 16:07 that eventually God does what only a loving God can do, 16:10 He just finally lets the punishment fall on them 16:14 according to what they deserve and then that's it, 16:17 it's over and they are gone. 16:20 But we really can't base a doctrine 16:24 on what we like better obviously, you know, 16:27 if I like the idea that they're going to be gone, 16:31 but that's not true, 16:32 then I need to follow the Bible not just what I like. 16:35 And on the other hand if you like the fact that 16:38 or believe that people are gonna burn for ever, 16:40 but that's really not what the Bible really says 16:42 when you look at the whole Bible, 16:44 then you need to adjust your course 16:47 and stick with scripture as well. 16:49 So back to the text, 16:52 how do we interpret these verses? 16:54 Well, let me make a very important observation 16:57 which you can find in your own Bible 16:58 and that is in verse 9, 17:00 there is absolutely no symbolism in the text. 17:02 Verse 9 simply says 17:04 they surrounded the New Jerusalem, 17:05 fire came down from God out of heaven 17:07 and devoured them, no symbolism. 17:09 Verse 10 talks about the beast 17:12 which has seven heads and ten horns 17:14 and the false prophet and they are tormented 17:16 day and night for ever and ever. 17:17 So bottom-line verse 9 has no symbolism, 17:20 verse 10 clearly does. 17:22 And to me it's significant that 17:24 every passage in the Book of Revelation 17:27 that describes torment day and night for ever and ever, 17:29 they always have symbolism. 17:31 Couple of quick examples. 17:34 talks about the beast 17:37 and people being tormented day and night for ever and ever, 17:39 same thing symbolism. 17:41 Revelation 19:2 and 3 talks about the harlot 17:45 and this is a woman named mystery Babylon 17:47 described in Revelation 17. 17:48 She's riding a seven headed ten horn beast 17:52 and it says that her smoke goes up forever and ever, 17:55 which is obviously again a reference 17:57 to a symbolic woman. 17:58 So my point is that every reference 18:00 in the Book of Revelation 18:02 whether it's chapter 20, chapter 14: 11, 18:05 or chapter 19: 2 and 3, 18:08 always tormented day and night forever and ever 18:11 is connected to symbolism. 18:13 Now, let's take a look at some other verses 18:15 that have no symbolism and are very, very clear. 18:19 Malachi 4, 18:23 Malachi is the last book of the Old Testament 18:25 and notice what Malachi says about the end of the world. 18:31 Malachi 4 the Bible says, 18:33 "Behold, the day is coming, 18:36 that shall burn as an oven, 18:37 and all the proud, and all that do wickedly, 18:39 they will be stubble. 18:40 And the day that is coming will burn them up... 18:43 Saith not Steve Wohlberg but saith the Lord of hosts 18:47 "That it shall leave them neither root nor branch." 18:49 So God Himself says that on the final day 18:52 those who do wickedly will be burned up, 18:56 that's what He says and there will be 18:58 no root left or no branch left. 19:01 Now picture a tree or a plant. 19:04 If you burn up the root and the branches, 19:06 how much of it is left. 19:08 There's nothing left, nothing at all. 19:10 Verse 3 says that the wicked will become ashes 19:14 under the feet of the saints on that day when God does this. 19:18 So here it says there will be ashes, 19:19 not only that 19:21 but if you go to the Book of Ezekiel 28, 19:24 it describes the devil. 19:26 Ezekiel 28 is very clear, 19:28 this is talking about Lucifer it says in verse 15, 19:33 "That he was perfect in his ways 19:35 from the day that he was created, 19:36 until iniquity was found in him." 19:38 That's when Lucifer became a devil. 19:40 Verse 17 describes his heart being lifted up in pride 19:44 and then verses 18 and 19 19:45 describe what God is finally going to do to Satan. 19:49 Verse 18 says that 19:51 "God will bring a forth a fire and it will devour you 19:56 and I will bring you to ashes upon the earth 20:00 in the side of all those who behold you 20:04 and all those among the people shall be astonished at you, 20:07 and you will be a terror 20:08 and never shall you be any more." 20:11 Now think about this, I mean look at the text. 20:16 It's very clear, God is clearly talking about Lucifer himself. 20:19 It says the fire is going to devour him 20:21 and he's going to become ashes 20:23 and never will he be any more, he'll be gone forever. 20:27 And I feel like saying and all the people said 20:29 and I would like to hear a big amen. 20:32 One of these days the Bible says 20:34 Lucifer himself is gonna be gone. 20:36 He's gonna be consumed by fire and he'll become ashes 20:39 just like Malachi says in chapter 4:1 and 3. 20:44 There are may other verses that teach this. 20:46 Let's look at Jude 7 or actually verse 7, 20:50 there's only one chapter in the Book of Jude. 20:53 Jude 7 describes the suffering of the lost 20:59 at the end of the world 21:00 and parallels it to Sodom and Gomorrah. 21:02 Jude verse 7 says, "Even as Sodom and Gomorrah 21:06 and the cities about them in like manner, 21:08 giving themselves over to fornication 21:10 and going after strange flesh, 21:11 they are set forth for an example, 21:14 suffering the vengeance of eternal fire." 21:16 And some people say, look Steve, 21:18 it says eternal fire and my response is, 21:20 but look closer, 21:21 the context is Sodom and Gomorrah, 21:23 and the Bible says Sodom and Gomorrah 21:24 were burned in fire with eternal fire. 21:27 But there are other verses in 2 Peter 2:6 21:32 it says that Sodom and Gomorrah 21:33 were turned into ashes by that fire. 21:36 When the Bible says it was eternal fire, 21:38 it doesn't mean that it burns forever, 21:40 because Sodom and Gomorrah aren't burning today, 21:42 but it simply means there was a fire from God 21:44 that did an eternal job and it burned those cities 21:48 to ashes and they are done. 21:50 And verse 7 says that this is an example 21:53 of what is going to happen to the lost. 21:56 Let's go back to Revelation. 21:59 In Revelation 20 22:01 we already read that there is a final resurrection, 22:04 there is a day of judgment 22:06 and then the lost will be thrown into the lake of fire 22:10 for their punishment at the end of time. 22:13 Verse 15, 20:15 says, 22:16 "Whoever was not found written in the book of life 22:19 was cast into the lake of fire." 22:21 Now the very next verse says, 22:23 "I saw a new heaven and a new earth, 22:25 for the first heaven 22:27 and the first earth had passed away, 22:28 and there was no more sea." 22:30 So right after the wicked are seen 22:32 going into the lake of fire, 22:34 then there is a scene change, there is a new heaven, 22:36 there is a new earth and everything changes, 22:40 everything passes away. 22:41 Verse 4 says, "God shall wipe away all tears from their eyes, 22:45 and there will be no more death, 22:46 neither sorrow, nor crying, 22:48 neither shall there be any more pain, 22:50 for the former things have passed away." 22:53 Verse 5 says, "He that sat upon the throne said, 22:55 'Behold, I make all things new.' 22:58 And He said to me, 'Write: 22:59 for these words are true and faithful." 23:02 ' Now think about it. 23:04 If those who are thrown into the lake of fire 23:08 burn forever and ever and ever, 23:10 then chapter 21 verse 4 can never come true. 23:13 There will always be pain, sorrow, 23:16 suffering and crying somewhere in God's universe, 23:19 but the Bible says it's not gonna happen, 23:21 that after Satan, 23:23 the lost and his evil angels are all consumed 23:26 and become ashes in the lake of fire, 23:29 then there will be a new heaven, a new earth, 23:32 and all sin will be behind us forever, 23:34 then there will be no more pain in God's universe, 23:36 no more suffering in God's universe, 23:38 no more crying in God's universe, 23:41 no more sorrow at all, it will all be over. 23:44 And God himself sitting on the throne said, 23:47 "Behold I make everything new." 23:51 I was once in New Jersey, 23:53 holding a Bible seminar teaching on this topic, 23:57 and there was the young man named Corey. 24:00 A Jewish man who was coming to the meetings, 24:02 and he came to one of my talks on the hot topic of hell 24:05 and I went through these verses. 24:07 I showed clearly and I showed John 3: 6 it says, 24:10 "For God so love the world 24:11 that He gave His only begotten Son 24:13 that whoever believes in Him shall not perish, 24:16 perish but have everlasting life." 24:18 And I quoted also Romans 6:23 that says, 24:22 "The wages of sin is death, 24:24 but the gift of God is eternal life 24:25 through Jesus Christ." 24:26 And I showed him all these verses 24:28 that those that don't want Jesus, 24:30 and don't want God 24:31 and don't have their sins forgiven 24:32 that eventually they will be gone, 24:35 they will be punished appropriately 24:37 according to their sins, 24:39 and then they will become ashes 24:41 and then God will remake the heavens and the earth 24:43 and everything will be perfect in full of love 24:46 and goodness just like in the beginning of time. 24:49 And Corey sat in the audience and when that meeting was over, 24:51 he came up to me, and his face was just glowing 24:54 and he grabbed my hand, then he said, 24:56 "Steve, Steve, he said now, 24:59 now I can believe, I can believe in a loving God." 25:04 And then he went home and the next night 25:06 he came back to the meeting 25:07 and his face was again glowing and he said, 25:09 "Steve, he said last night I got on my knees 25:12 and I accepted Jesus Christ as my personal savior. 25:16 And I opened my heart to him." 25:17 And then he said, he said, 25:19 "Steve, praise God I'm born again. 25:21 I'm born again." 25:23 And I was so excited at the end of that meeting 25:24 he was baptized and his Jewish mother was there 25:27 and she said, I don't know what's happened to Corey, 25:30 to my son, but I can tell it's a good thing. 25:34 It's a good thing. 25:35 And the doubt and barriers were removed from Corey's mind 25:38 once he knew the truth about hell, 25:41 the truth about the fire, 25:42 the truth about what God's gonna do 25:44 at the end of the world, 25:45 and how one of these days all sin 25:47 and suffering, and sorrow 25:48 and pain will be gone forever. 25:50 And Corey became a believer in Jesus because of that. 25:54 Dear friend, I hope that you will 25:56 take a close look at your Bible 25:58 and discover the truth about our loving God, 26:00 about our Heavenly Father, about our Savior Jesus 26:03 who loved the world so much that He gave His own life 26:06 on the cross to save us from sin. 26:08 And those who don't believe in Him, 26:09 who continue to reject Him eventually they will perish, 26:14 and they'll be gone and they won't have eternal life, 26:17 but those that love Jesus and love God 26:19 because He's good and loving and kind 26:21 and just and perfect, 26:23 they will live with Him forever. 26:26 The Bible says in Revelation 20:5 26:29 that God says, "Behold, 26:30 one of these days he will say behold, 26:32 I make all things new." 26:34 And he said to me right, 26:36 "For these words are true and faithful." 26:40 You have just heard His Voice Today. 26:44 We hope you've enjoyed this timely message 26:46 from Pastor Steve Wohlberg 26:48 and we 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