Participants: Paul & Carolyn Rayne (Host), Hannah & Caleb Rayne
Series Code: HTH
Program Code: HTH00013A
00:01 In the last few Happy the Home programs,
00:03 we've looked at family time.
00:04 Learning our children's limits
00:07 and how to investigate a secret life.
00:09 Today we're going to review these important topics.
00:12 So, join us again for another Happy the Home.
00:36 Welcome to Happy the Home, this is program number 13,
00:40 and actually it's the last program
00:43 in our first section of the Happy the Home series.
00:46 Because, today we're going to conclude the section
00:50 that is all about drawing our children's heart to us.
00:55 And at the end of the program,
00:56 we'll tell you a little bit more about section number 2,
00:59 which is four programs worth.
01:01 I think you're gonna enjoy the next section.
01:03 But we today, we want to review
01:06 those last three programs that we've done.
01:08 And the reason for review is
01:11 it's so easy to just tune into 3ABN,
01:17 to sit down and to watch the program,
01:20 and then not to actually do anything with it.
01:23 We have said over and over again that
01:25 Happy the Home is a program that you not just watch,
01:29 it's a program you do. So we really want you to make
01:32 the most of watching these programs
01:34 by entering into some of the challenges.
01:37 Now lets look, first of all at program number 10,
01:40 it was entitled Invest in the Best.
01:43 And if you watch that, you know we based it on a text,
01:46 it was on Psalms 133 verse 1.
01:51 It says, Behold how good and how pleasant it is
01:55 for brethren or a family to dwell together in unity.
01:59 How does a family dwell together in unity, in a chaotic world?
02:04 Well, one of the ways that we explored
02:07 was by spending some time together.
02:09 It might be a bit bumpy at first,
02:11 but as we start spending time together
02:13 we'll find that our hearts bind together.
02:15 So Carolyn, we started doing that, you and I,
02:19 because we read a book about family life and you want to read
02:26 to us that passage that already stuck out to us.
02:28 Yeah, I've got it right here it says,
02:30 "let parents devote the evenings to their families.
02:34 Lay off care and perplexity with the labors of the day.
02:38 Let the evenings be spend as happily as possible.
02:42 That home be a place for cheerfulness
02:44 and courtesy and love exists,
02:46 this will make it attractive to the children."
02:49 And I know when we read that,
02:51 we thought how on earth can you do that.
02:55 I mean just think about it for a moment,
02:57 that evening hours to your children.
02:59 The evening hours is when we get stuff done.
03:01 But, you know what are we getting done
03:04 in those evening hours.
03:05 Often times we're watching the TV
03:07 or browsing the web or socializing with the same
03:10 people that we've been socializing with
03:12 for years or we're working late at night to try and get ahead.
03:16 You know, whilst we're doing all those things,
03:19 there's a family underneath our roof
03:23 that needs nurturing, that needs time and attention.
03:26 So we encourage you in that program,
03:28 if you remember we actually role played.
03:31 Daddy going off to work and telling the family,
03:34 hey you need to be on the couch at 6 O'clock when I get home,
03:38 because I've got an announcement to make
03:40 and we started making a list of things
03:44 that we can do in family time. In the connected family book
03:48 that goes along with this program.
03:51 Actually this is a good point to tell you
03:54 at the end of this chapter in the book chapter 13,
03:58 there is a test you can do, I will save that.
04:01 I am gonna tell you about that later on.
04:03 But in the book also is a list of things
04:06 to get you started on family time.
04:08 We're just gonna read a few of them now.
04:10 Oh, you haven't got them I have got them,
04:12 maybe we could play Frisbee or ball in the local park.
04:17 Just, that's pretty easy, any family could do that,
04:20 you just go down to the local park,
04:22 buy a Frisbee on the way and just probably,
04:24 may be even your children don't know
04:25 how to throw a Frisbee.
04:27 I remember trying to teach Hannah and Caleb to do that.
04:29 Anyway, let's go through the list.
04:30 Do a puzzle together that will be if it's raining.
04:32 Try out a new recipe; it is fun in our house
04:36 when we all get in the kitchen.
04:37 Well, it can be a bit messy as well.
04:40 Oh, yeah. That is the part of the fun.
04:41 Repair something, plan a sponsored walk, ride or swim.
04:45 Go for a bike ride, start some family project.
04:48 Play indoor hide and seek, clean the car,
04:51 go to the park, feed the dogs, teach the pet new tricks.
04:54 Anyway, I am just read half a dozen there or ten or so,
04:58 and there is a whole page of them in the book.
05:00 So, just try and find something that your family can do.
05:05 And if you remember, tell the viewers,
05:07 or recap for us how we split that house during the week.
05:11 Who got to choose, which family times and that kind of stuff
05:14 Yeah, we would just sit down on a Sunday typically
05:18 and plan out the week of family times.
05:21 And you know we would have
05:22 Monday, Tuesday, Wednesday, Thursday.
05:24 There is four of us and so each of us
05:25 got to pick an evening and you know we all did
05:28 and you know it was a good opportunity
05:30 for the children to learn not to be selfish.
05:33 Because, you know maybe Hannah,
05:35 there's certain things she doesn't really
05:36 want to do that her brother wants to do
05:38 like Legos may be or whatever it is.
05:39 Or you know when he was younger
05:41 may be he doesn't want to play dolls.
05:43 But we let each child pick and the other child needed
05:46 to learn how to enjoy something
05:49 for the other person's enjoyment.
05:51 So, it has been a great blessing for our family.
05:53 Yeah definitely, it's bound us together now.
05:55 We haven't been as consistent on it as we would like to be,
05:59 but the children are very forgiving, aren't they?
06:01 Right and we have, you know we have chosen
06:03 rather than having every single night they were home
06:06 and it has to be mandatory that it happens.
06:08 But you know in the winter time for example.
06:10 Every couple of weeks, we go for the day Skiing.
06:13 And so that is like a number of family time
06:17 opportunities all put into one event.
06:20 And so we kind of do it like that sometimes,
06:22 not always but sometimes it's that way.
06:23 I... I am. My wife and I are part of the ministry,
06:27 Restoration International. So we travel,
06:29 but also we do a lot of work from our home office and so my,
06:33 the fourth bedroom in our house is my office.
06:38 And I spend a lot of time there and I find it
06:41 hard sometimes to pull away from that,
06:44 to go and kick ball or something, I found for me,
06:47 I do much better for family time if I can go somewhere.
06:51 Go to the lake, go on the bikes, you know go skiing,
06:54 just go somewhere and do it.
06:56 So, that's what, you've got to find out what works for you.
06:59 Now we had a few guidelines as well didn't we for family time.
07:02 Do you want to kick off on the first one?
07:04 Number one. Number one is schedule your family time.
07:07 If you just say yeah, yeah, we do family time and we'll...
07:09 And you never make a plan I can promise you
07:12 the week will come and the week will go and it won't happen.
07:15 So you could have schedule and Tuesday night
07:17 this is what we gonna do.
07:19 Put it on the refrigerator so everybody can see
07:21 your being accountable as parents,
07:23 as a family for what you're gonna do.
07:25 You actually gave us one and two there.
07:27 Sorry, because number two was mine,
07:28 put it on the refrigerator,
07:30 make a calendar, make yourself accountable.
07:33 Monday we're doing this, Wednesday we're doing this,
07:36 Friday we're doing that or whatever.
07:37 So, here is a question, so what happens
07:40 when a family has got it figured out,
07:42 that Tuesday night, this is what we're gonna do.
07:44 We're all gonna play ball in the park together.
07:47 And the phone rings and your work colleague
07:50 wants you to go do something different and it's family time.
07:53 It depends how much of a priority family is.
07:57 I mean I've given my forty or fifty hours a week
08:01 to my employer and some employers don't respect.
08:05 They say they do, they say family is important,
08:09 but then they want you to jump
08:11 to their back and call all the time.
08:12 So I've actually taken to not answering the phone,
08:17 the cell phone or the regular phone in family time.
08:20 If it rings, I've got an appointment,
08:22 if I'm on a business appointment and it's kind of important
08:27 then I put my phone on vibrate.
08:30 So why not, why, how important is family?
08:33 I mean what price can you put on it?
08:35 I mean people put a big price on family
08:37 when they go to funeral and then they say
08:41 family means everything to me.
08:42 But then everyday of the week you know
08:45 they're neglecting the family.
08:47 So, depends how important your family is,
08:50 but I shut my cell phone off.
08:51 Okay, number three Carolyn, a guideline for family time.
08:55 The whole family needs to be involved,
08:57 not just the most dominant people in your family,
09:00 the most vocal people in your family
09:02 are the ones who get to pick the family time
09:03 and make the plan of what it's gonna be.
09:05 Get the whole family involved from the oldest to the youngest.
09:08 So the parents pick a time and what they're gonna do
09:11 and the three year old gets to pick what they want to do.
09:14 And you know what, if you've got an 18 year old
09:16 in your house and a 3 year old.
09:17 The 18 year old can play Play-Doh.
09:20 Its okay, it's alright to do that.
09:24 You know one member of the family
09:26 that often times misses out on family time, is dad.
09:31 Dads, I'm picking on you today, you need to get involved.
09:35 When the children's see dad kicking the ball
09:38 around the yard, or dad goes on a bike ride
09:41 or dad does something fun. You know that's what
09:44 makes it for our children.
09:46 So dad, don't tune out and say ah...
09:48 this is just for mom and the kids.
09:50 I don't have to get involved. You do have to get involved.
09:52 You are the main player. You're the house band,
09:55 the one who's supposed to hold this whole house together.
09:57 Well it's like; it's like...
09:59 when it's mom and the children it's in black and white.
10:01 When dad gets involved it's in vibrant color.
10:04 That's a good way to put it. So be colorful.
10:06 Okay you already talked about number 4.
10:09 You're really covering my points,
10:10 don't answer the phone. So I am gonna throw it back
10:12 to you for number 5. Mix work and pleasure together,
10:16 we talked about it not all just be play-doh,
10:18 and kicking the ball around and doing the fun things
10:21 that the entertaining type things.
10:23 But cleaning the car together,
10:25 doing some yard project together.
10:27 They can stand bored when you have to it because it's a job.
10:30 But when you do it because you want to enjoy
10:33 this as a family it becomes a whole lot of fun.
10:35 If you're cleaning the car, it is the middle of summer
10:37 you get shower too probably. And that's just a lot of fun.
10:40 Yeah, I like this, because you know sometimes
10:43 I am just being real honest, sometimes I've got a bunch
10:46 of things to do on my desk.
10:47 You know I've got the yard that needs mowing
10:50 and I've got the, you know the garage door needs painting
10:53 and something else's gone wrong.
10:55 The evening is my time to fix that.
10:58 Well if I'll spend the bit of time
11:00 kicking the ball with the children,
11:01 then I can say to Hannah and Caleb and Carolyn.
11:03 Hey, come on, it's family time tonight
11:06 and we're going to do some project.
11:09 And we've actually done that.
11:10 We've had a great time, you know me on the tractor,
11:13 cutting the grass and Caleb with the push mower or whatever.
11:16 And you know as a team we get the whole yard
11:18 taken care of in the evening and I think well great,
11:21 we did it together as a family. So plan your family times
11:25 and mix in the fun things with the work things.
11:30 And understand the point of it,
11:33 the point of family time is to be connecting together
11:37 as a family, to be bonding your hearts together.
11:39 So when you have to deal with some of those other things
11:42 that are not so easy and comfortable to deal with.
11:45 You have a grand frame work that you started off with.
11:48 Excellent, the last one, number 6,
11:50 again if we're going through these too quick
11:52 and I know we are running through.
11:55 Then you can get this list, it's right there
11:57 in the connected family companion book.
11:59 The last one is, plan ahead for those activities
12:02 that take a little longer. You know Carolyn mentioned,
12:05 we take the whole day when we go skiing.
12:08 We have to skip some family time,
12:09 so we can take a whole day out skiing,
12:11 go into the lake in the summer time or whatever.
12:14 You know dads, I just feel the burden
12:17 from the Lord in this program to challenge you,
12:20 to be courageous, and to do what
12:24 many dads are not willing to do,
12:26 and that is to lay down the pursuit for promotion.
12:32 And to dedicate so much time and energy to your employment.
12:36 I'm not saying you got to turn into you know
12:38 one of those who just does his time and no more.
12:40 But you know friends, fathers, dads,
12:43 there is a more courageous work for us to do.
12:46 It's to be the leaders of our own family.
12:48 So that's just the burden Lord,
12:51 I don't know who is watching this, that needs to hear this.
12:53 But, hey ladies, if you're the only ones watching this
12:56 because dad's out at work, then call in,
12:59 get the DVD and put it on his desk.
13:01 And say hey, this is a, it's not my birthday type of experience.
13:05 That comes in the earlier program.
13:07 Okay Carolyn, let's talk a little bit about
13:09 learning their limits, what was that program about?
13:11 It was about expectations that we have on our children.
13:14 Whether we pitch those too high or too low.
13:17 And typically in this day's world we tend to have
13:20 fairly low expectations on our children
13:23 and the minimum they need to do rather than
13:25 seeing the pleasure they can have
13:26 out of being out to achieve more.
13:28 I wonder if that is, because as we try to get
13:32 our children to do things that are beyond
13:35 what they think they can do,
13:37 we meet with a lot of whinging and whining.
13:40 You know I can't do that, and we say, yes you can.
13:43 And they almost like enter the task with an attitude,
13:47 because they think they can't do it.
13:49 But we got to try and break our children past that
13:52 and get them into the groove that,
13:55 you know God's grace is sufficient
13:58 and they can do anything with his help.
14:00 And in that program we talked about
14:03 Caleb going for that hike in Galatia Park, if you remember.
14:07 And you will get the program to appreciate it
14:12 or we haven't got time to go into it now.
14:14 But when our son Caleb was 6 years of age,
14:18 he walked 12 miles with those little tiny legs
14:22 and had time and energy at the end of it
14:24 to play around the camp ground.
14:27 Friends, our children can do way more,
14:29 I didn't think he can do that, but he did.
14:32 And it just goes to prove a point
14:33 I shared my experience of being in Derbyshire there
14:36 and going on that punishment hill.
14:38 We can do more than we think we can.
14:41 But you had a list, I like us to go over that again.
14:44 A list of things that children should be able to do,
14:47 most children should be able to do by a certain age.
14:50 Yeah, it says a three or four year old
14:52 can load the dishwasher, set the table,
14:55 or hang up their clothes.
14:56 Is this just the theory or do kids
14:59 actually do this kind of stuff. Yeah, okay.
15:01 If they're taught to and encouraged to, they can.
15:05 If we kind of ooze the atmosphere of
15:09 oh no, no, no, there's no way they could
15:11 then they come up to our expectations.
15:15 That's why it's so important
15:16 that we set those expectations high
15:18 and they will come up to those for the most part.
15:21 So the limited factor in our children
15:22 sometimes is the parent's expectations.
15:25 Oh yeah, and as we travel all over the country
15:27 and different parts of the world,
15:29 giving seminars on family.
15:31 Many, many people will come and say
15:33 they will kind of they recognize us
15:35 what we're talking they are the problem.
15:37 They are the ones setting the limits on their children,
15:40 not their children's ability is setting the limits.
15:42 That's pretty insightful.
15:44 Okay, carry on to what can a five or six year old do.
15:47 A five or six year old can help locate items
15:51 in the grocery store or make a simple sandwich.
15:54 I believe that, yeah. Definitely and when they make a
15:57 sandwich and they stuffs in the bread.
16:01 They stuffs in the bread and it goes all the way
16:03 to the edge it's not just a little bit in the middle.
16:05 Well, I guess they observe their parents on that one.
16:08 A seven to nine year old can safely learn to cook,
16:12 clean the bathroom or use the drill.
16:16 A 10 to 12 year old if well trained and encouraged
16:20 is capable of almost any task around the home,
16:23 given they have physical strength to do it.
16:26 And then the list doesn't go on beyond that
16:28 because pass that they're pretty much
16:30 able to do anything, as needed.
16:32 So, tell our viewers a little bit about
16:36 your training of Hannah in the Kitchen
16:38 and then how it was a struggle at first
16:41 but then it got easy and now how it's a real blessing,
16:44 just put some meat on that.
16:45 You know I'm a real task oriented person and that means
16:48 I want to get things done, get them done quick.
16:50 And I have a certain time for everything and boom, boom, boom.
16:53 And so, when my children were very little
16:55 you know between 4 and 6 I guess,
16:58 they wanted to be in the kitchen.
17:00 And they wanted to help me
17:01 and that was a real challenge for me,
17:03 because I just wanted to go in there and get it done.
17:06 But the Lord really called to my heart,
17:08 as I pray in my devotion time and I realized,
17:10 this was something I needed to do.
17:12 To do, to not worry about the mess.
17:14 To schedule more time, so that I would have extra time
17:18 to be able to teach them without being frustrated.
17:21 Like weakest moms can become.
17:23 And so that was whatI started to do,
17:25 and they started off with a salad.
17:26 I can still remember Caleb,
17:28 he had this plastic knife and he was cutting lettuce.
17:30 Now how old was he? He was about four I think.
17:36 Four years old with a plastic knife, making salad.
17:39 Yeah, he got pretty dandy with that knife,
17:42 he can do cucumbers as well as lettuce,
17:43 he couldn't celery and stuff, you know the real hard stuff.
17:46 But, of course, I knew where that was leading,
17:48 he's next gonna want the sharp kind,
17:51 but anyway keep it going,
17:52 we're conscious of the time here.
17:54 I encouraged that against my humanity
17:58 and as they got a bit older and then they started
18:00 learn to cook and I had to stand back
18:02 and you know help them, you learn to blend,
18:04 then stand back and watch that happen.
18:06 But you know it really pays off,
18:08 I was not so well earlier this year
18:10 and I need to help in home
18:11 and Hannah was able to do all of it.
18:14 She didn't need any input from me, I didn't give any.
18:17 She just ran the whole home for the summer time,
18:19 what a huge blessing
18:20 I would have been really struck without that.
18:22 Hey, I could have done it?
18:23 You could have, but Hannah probably knows
18:25 more than you do.
18:27 No, probably, definitely.
18:29 I'm in the kitchen and where does this go.
18:31 Give it to Hannah, Hannah will find out where it goes.
18:33 You know but they are some dangers
18:35 to having too high expectations.
18:38 We generally pitch in, we pitch that program
18:41 and trying to encourage you to lift the expectations
18:44 in your family because often times, it's too low.
18:47 But we can go into the other ditch where our children are
18:52 if we are expecting them and we had a real situation
18:55 in our home after we've had a morning meal,
18:58 like I say we work from home both Carolyn and I.
19:00 And the children for years now have been the one to,
19:04 after a cooked meal, they are the ones
19:07 to put all the stuff in the dish washer,
19:09 wash up some of the things, sweep the floor.
19:12 do the counters everything.
19:14 So the kitchen looks like a show home by the time they're done.
19:17 Not that we aim for a show home.
19:19 But we want it to be neat and clean.
19:20 And we set a time of half an hour, that's reasonable.
19:25 And they were not doing it in half an hour
19:28 and we were chastising them.
19:29 We would say, come on children,
19:30 it doesn't take more than half an hour surely.
19:32 Well, actually, eventually, our daughter she says, daddy,
19:35 I have been working diligently
19:38 and I still can't get it done in half an hour.
19:40 And she said it in a nice way but she kind of hinted,
19:43 why don't you have a go and see
19:45 if you can do it in half an hour.
19:46 And she didn't say it like that but that's what I picked up
19:48 and so I said well, okay, tomorrow, daddy will do it.
19:52 Well I went as quick as I could, I didn't dally around,
19:55 I was up against the clock, it took me 35 minutes.
19:59 So we had an unrealistic expectation
20:03 and it was causing frustration.
20:04 Because Hannah was frustrated,
20:06 because she wanted to get it done.
20:07 We were frustrated because she wasn't getting it done,
20:09 of course, we didn't notice how long it took often times.
20:11 But when we did so make sure
20:14 that if you're gonna raise the expectations
20:17 that they're realistic, that they are meetable.
20:21 But we caught quite a bit more in that program,
20:23 but we shall leave it there.
20:24 Let's move on to, unless there's anything
20:27 you feel like we should cover.
20:28 No. very good, okay.
20:30 Program number 12, the last program
20:32 that we had was entitled a secret life.
20:37 And actually somethings from your past
20:40 to came out in that program that,
20:42 I haven't thought about in a very long time.
20:44 The Lord must have just popped that in your mind.
20:46 You know it is easy today for our children
20:53 to grow up with a secret life.
20:56 What do we mean by a secret life?
21:00 If children get into a wrong behavior or they get into
21:04 wrong association and they know it's wrong.
21:10 It can be difficult sometimes
21:12 to come to mom and dad and say, hey mom and dad,
21:16 you know, I did something today that I shouldn't have done.
21:19 So they don't say it, they bottle it up inside.
21:23 And then the enemy of our souls,
21:26 we've got to realize and perhaps we haven't brought
21:28 that out strong enough in this program.
21:30 We try to keep the programs positive,
21:32 but the reality is that there is an enemy of souls
21:37 who follows our children and your children
21:41 every where they go.
21:42 Looking for a way to push them into immorality or dishonesty
21:48 or you know a difficult situation.
21:51 And you know, you know, what it was like
21:53 when you're a child and it's ten times
21:55 more difficult to be a child now then it was a generation ago.
22:00 So just think, be aware in mind that the enemy of the souls,
22:04 the devil we call him in Christian circles
22:06 is out to derail our children.
22:09 And so it's very easy for them to get into something
22:13 and not feel like they can confess that to mom and dad,
22:16 they can open up and Carolyn,
22:18 you share that as you were growing up,
22:21 you got into some situations in your later life
22:24 and tell the viewers again how you were longing
22:27 for your parents to open, you know,
22:28 to bring the subject up somehow.
22:31 Well, I realized, because I was raised as a Christian,
22:34 I realized that some of the choices
22:37 that I was making were the wrong choices.
22:39 I knew that they were not principled choices,
22:41 but I find myself from poor associations
22:46 kind of locked into this situation.
22:48 And I didn't really know how to get out of it.
22:51 And so my heart's cry was that
22:53 somebody would somehow find out and help me out.
22:58 But I didn't know how to say it to my parents,
23:00 I didn't want to bust their bubble.
23:02 And so I never came up and said guess mom and dad
23:05 this is what I am doing, I just somehow kind of hoped
23:08 that it could be perceived and...
23:11 Would you have told them if they had said
23:14 hey, Carolyn what's going on.
23:15 Oh, yeah, I was longing somebody to ask me
23:18 and I don't feel bad it was my parents, because they didn't.
23:21 You know, like that was many, many years ago.
23:24 And, but realizing now how that relates to me as a parent,
23:28 it's like I want to make sure that my children aren't
23:30 sitting there with these things
23:32 with these guilt they are carrying
23:34 and we aren't the ones to try and find out
23:36 what it is and help them out of that situation.
23:38 So parents, we in that program
23:41 the last program if you remember,
23:42 we really encourage you to check in with you children.
23:46 To engineer a situation that you can be with them alone,
23:51 may be when they go into bed, you go and tuck them in.
23:53 Just sit on the side of the bed and say,
23:55 hey, and I've done this with my children.
23:57 I say hey, Caleb, anything on your conscious?
24:02 And if you get a vague answer.
24:04 No, I can't think of anything, cause, no, probably not.
24:09 You know probably, maybe, I can't think,
24:12 they are all the initial reaction.
24:15 That, it's not a deliberate smoke screen,
24:17 but there's probably something behind that, not necessarily.
24:21 So, you know, find an opportunity
24:23 where you can investigate with your children.
24:25 And see what is going on in a secret life,
24:30 and if it's all clear, praise the Lord.
24:33 If there is something that they really
24:34 want to talk to you about, don't come down hard on them.
24:38 Thank them and thank them and thank them
24:39 that they were willing to open up,
24:41 remind them you can come to us anytime.
24:44 We're your parents, we're here to help you,
24:46 you know, go ahead.
24:48 I was just wanna say that don't just build up
24:51 your courage to get this out,
24:52 because you don't want to ask but you know you need to.
24:54 And then you do it once in a lifetime.
24:57 We probably ask our children, once a month?
25:02 May be not quite as frequent as that,
25:04 but certainly once every two or three months.
25:06 We'll just ask, you know, hey, anything on your heart,
25:09 you want to tell us?
25:11 And try and do it, you know, it's particularly difficult
25:14 if you suspect that there is something,
25:17 then you tend to have a lot more intensity,
25:19 because its like I just wanted to come out with this.
25:22 Where as if you can be a little bit more relaxed
25:24 and just fairly a matter of fact.
25:25 Oh, hey, Sweetie, and have a good night
25:27 and hey, is anything on your heart.
25:29 If you can do it in that way,
25:30 it kind of diffuses the atmosphere
25:33 and makes the, the child,
25:34 children zone in on intensity, they recognize it.
25:37 And so that adds to the stress of the situation for them.
25:40 So we can be a bit more relaxed,
25:42 but check in on a regular basis
25:44 rather than leaving it until something huge is grown.
25:48 We're gonna take a break at this point
25:49 and then join us afterwards
25:51 because we're gonna wrap up this section one.
25:53 And we're gonna introduce to you
25:55 section 2 of Happy the Home.
25:57 Join us in a moment.