Participants: Paul & Carolyn Rayne (Host), Caleb Rayne, Hannah Rayne
Series Code: HTH
Program Code: HTH00002A
00:01 How, well do we know our children?
00:03 Are we growing closer as the days turn into years
00:06 or is a generation gap developing. You know,
00:11 join us on Happy the Home as we explore
00:14 what in their world is going on.
00:41 Welcome to Happy the Home program number two
00:44 which is entitled what in their world is
00:46 going on, and if you're following along with
00:49 companion book that we encouraged you
00:51 in the last program. We're on chapter 2
00:54 obviously program two goes with chapter two
00:56 and it's gonna follow that way all the way
00:57 through. What in their world is going on?
01:00 Now that's an interesting title when
01:02 you'll find out fully why as we go on.
01:05 And we're really excited because
01:07 this again is a program that you do not
01:10 something you just watch. So tonight today
01:12 you're gonna go away with something
01:14 tangible to do. So let's get right into it,
01:17 as you and I traveled with our ministry,
01:21 Restoration International,
01:22 we, we find that there's families where
01:26 parents like to talk with other parents.
01:29 And children and youth that like to talk
01:32 with the other children and youth.
01:33 And it's almost like this two independent parties
01:38 and there's not a lot of communication going
01:42 between those two groups,
01:43 so that then when it's hey kids,
01:44 come here or go to bed or it's time to eat.
01:47 What's the dangers with that?
01:51 Do you see that as a problem? Well,
01:53 first of all I would like to define what that is,
01:55 we really would class that as the
01:57 generation gap. And the gap seems
01:59 to be getting bigger, not smaller
02:01 as time goes on. That's,
02:04 that's gonna play in I think as the,
02:06 as the family gets older,
02:08 there's gonna be some challenges later on,
02:11 where we are really gonna need a
02:12 close connection with each other,
02:14 and if that generation gap as you called it
02:16 has built up over the years then we're gonna
02:20 find this communication isn't happening.
02:22 And then all kinds of, we're gonna get
02:25 all kinds of trouble as a result of
02:26 the generation gap. So what would
02:29 you see Carolyn as the,
02:33 where does the generation gap start?
02:34 What, what causes it,
02:36 is it the children fault, no,
02:38 or is it the parent's fault?
02:39 Or is it just happens?
02:40 It's not the children's fault,
02:41 it often starts when they're very young
02:43 and the parents have not stopped doing
02:45 the things they were doing before children,
02:48 they wanna keep up those things
02:49 and have children just as kind of like an
02:51 appendage to life, right and,
02:53 and an addition to life, not realizing
02:56 what a commitment the takes to that child
02:58 to be a part of child's life.
03:00 And so the child comes and goes and
03:02 does its thing while the parent's doing there's
03:04 and so it can start even from toddler age
03:08 that the parents on a different plan
03:10 to their children and because it starts
03:12 right then, it gets bigger and bigger
03:14 and often parents still realize the seriousness
03:17 of where that can lead to in later life.
03:19 So, so we feed them, and clothe them,
03:22 and we take them to school and we do
03:24 all that kind of stuff, isn't that enough?
03:26 But we don't enter into their life, right.
03:29 To who they really are. Okay,
03:30 so I get the picture,
03:32 so that's got to be, there's got to be
03:34 something that stops parents tuning in
03:39 into their children that way.
03:40 What would that be? Well I think you know,
03:42 years ago families were much more
03:46 close knit and they did things together,
03:48 but life today has got us doing so many
03:51 different things. There are so many
03:52 engaged with some social things we're
03:54 involved and so, I would say the number
03:56 one is over commitment,
03:58 there's too many things to be
03:59 involved in. You know,
04:00 people were commitment years back I mean,
04:02 I'm talking hundred years back,
04:04 but they did it together as a family or it was,
04:06 or what ever it was milking the cows,
04:08 hole in the water up so the family
04:10 can take a bath I mean we are not
04:12 at that point now so.
04:13 No, well what seems to happen these days
04:15 is that we are involved in so many things
04:17 we take our children here and there
04:18 and everywhere and we chauffeur
04:20 them around all these different places,
04:22 but we're not actually connecting with them
04:24 even though we might be in the same vehicle
04:26 going to the same place. Right,
04:28 and I know that a lot of those of you
04:31 who are viewing I mean 3ABN
04:33 is a Christian network, so I'm presuming
04:36 that a number of you go to church
04:38 not necessarily all of course,
04:40 but you know, you would have
04:42 thought wow going to church as a family
04:45 we are connecting. There isn't any
04:47 chance of the generation gap
04:49 if we're going to church.
04:50 But it's not always that way.
04:51 Well I know the in a lot of churches
04:53 and the church that we attend the first thing
04:55 we do and we get there is we all go
04:59 to our separate classes and we learn
05:02 about our separate things and then we do
05:04 come together the main service,
05:05 but you know let me challenge you
05:07 as viewers and really this program
05:10 which is entitled what,
05:11 what in their world is going on,
05:14 the whole point of this program is
05:16 we want you as parents as we have challenged
05:19 ourselves as parents to just tune in to
05:23 your children's world and find out
05:26 what is going on? And as we do that
05:30 I think you will find as we've found that
05:32 it's not so easy to tune into their world,
05:36 because we're tuned in to their own little
05:38 world and we're actually inadvertently
05:41 tuning the children out. Well that's, you know,
05:44 that's because we're just,
05:45 we get so tuned into our own personal interest,
05:49 there's a lot of things out there,
05:50 you know the telephone for us girls
05:52 is something that can kind of caught,
05:53 we get caught up on and our children
05:55 kind of face into the background,
05:56 for guys dare I say, sports is a big one.
06:00 Right, yeah all, all those things,
06:02 I was talking a little bit about church
06:04 and how you can think the church is the,
06:06 if we go to church then we together as a family,
06:08 but I want you challenge you,
06:10 how is it on the way to church as you
06:12 drive there as a family yeah, is it just silence?
06:16 And then when you get there,
06:18 the children get all animated with their
06:19 friends and we get all animated with our
06:21 friends and then on the way back it's quiet
06:23 again. You know if that is the case then
06:27 that would be and it's not necessarily wrong,
06:29 but it would be the early signs of a
06:31 generation gap or maybe the,
06:33 the kids have gotten their ear buds
06:36 in and they're in their own world
06:39 and then they pop out into church or
06:42 social engagement world and we are there,
06:44 but not together, and then we go back
06:46 and they back in their world. So you know,
06:49 you talked about parents and their over
06:51 commitment, you talked about men and
06:52 some of their sports you know, I know,
06:54 another thing for us guys is that we can
06:58 give a hundred and ten percent to our
07:00 employment and yeah and especially
07:03 with the world the way it is these days,
07:05 praise God if you got a job,
07:06 but we can give so much energy to our
07:10 employment or to our business,
07:12 when we get home at the end of the day
07:14 is just kind of like, oh man am I glad
07:17 to be home and we stick our feet up
07:19 and yeah then the children come over
07:22 and they say hey daddy let me show you
07:24 such and such, it's like don't bother me,
07:26 I have had a hard day at work the last thing
07:28 I need is kids bothering me, I mean is,
07:32 I've said those words that not quite like
07:35 that because, but I've said you know, Caleb,
07:37 this is important, daddy just needs to have
07:39 some down time and you kind of push them away,
07:42 but there's only so many time you can do that.
07:44 The children have got a social need they've
07:47 got a social, they need a social outlet
07:49 and, it means to be more mom and dad,
07:51 it's looking pushing them away,
07:53 they're gonna find friends elsewhere.
07:54 They're gonna think,
07:55 I think that creates this gap is what
08:00 I would call busyness or life you know,
08:02 at the end of the year,
08:04 you get a Christmas letter or a
08:05 New Year's letter from people from you
08:07 haven't seen all year and what is it typically
08:09 say we are all busy, busy, busy everybody
08:12 is busy doing, doing, doing they don't have
08:14 time for their each other anymore
08:15 they don't have time for friends necessarily
08:17 and they certainly don't have time for family
08:20 and I think that has a lot to do with it,
08:22 this life has just got us on a role of
08:24 busyness. And it's got us on a role of
08:26 busyness and the children are busy
08:28 as well. Yeah. They're busy having fun,
08:30 but we're all going in separate directions
08:32 and we wanna try and pull that together,
08:34 you know, the Happy the Home series is a step
08:38 by step series and program number one
08:42 which we, we have last time was talking
08:45 about praying for commitment and
08:47 determination and praying for our
08:49 children, this program is really all about
08:52 tuning into their world. You know,
08:55 we're told in scripture it's in Proverbs 27:23,
09:00 it says "Be diligent to know the state of your
09:04 flock, and attend to your herds."
09:07 well what's that gonna do with parenting
09:09 you might not have any flocks,
09:10 you might not have any herds,
09:11 but I think you, you know,
09:13 what it's saying? It's saying be diligent
09:16 to know the state of your family,
09:17 and attend, you know put some time
09:21 and effort into and in this program,
09:23 this is not step number two,
09:25 all we're trying to do is tuning
09:29 to our children you know.
09:30 So how do we tune into their world?
09:32 That, that's a good question and
09:34 I thought this through a little bit
09:36 and 3ABN is a TV network and
09:41 a radio network that is transmitting
09:44 24/7 out to the whole world.
09:46 It is transmitting it's message out and only,
09:51 only those that are tuned in,
09:53 like you're tuned in and watching 3ABN right now.
09:56 So you're receiving the message,
09:58 but if you not tuned in,
10:00 if your TV is off then 3ABN is still
10:04 transmitting you're just not getting it
10:06 and I wonder how many of us parents
10:09 are getting it, getting what our children,
10:12 because our children like 3ABN in terms of
10:14 they're transmitting their likes and
10:17 dislikes, their wants, their needs,
10:19 even some of their emotions.
10:22 Yeah it seems to me the best place to tune
10:24 into our children would be to find out
10:26 what's going in their bedrooms?
10:28 Bedrooms can be a scary part.
10:31 Now parents you may have been
10:32 there for a number of years,
10:34 but we wanna encourage you today
10:37 to take a look in your child's bedroom,
10:40 not to be a snoop and to poke around,
10:43 but just walk in there if you haven't been
10:44 there in a while and to see what it's like.
10:46 You might be scared, it maybe a scary place
10:49 I have been scared as I've gone to my
10:50 children's bedrooms open the closet door
10:52 and things start popping out at me it's like whoa,
10:55 this isn't very pleasant. You know,
10:57 so you, you're just trying to find out what,
10:59 what did they have, what's in their world
11:02 and you know, scary I can remember
11:05 been around about Hannah's age and I
11:06 didn't like the lunches my mother would pack
11:08 for me and so rather then dealing with that.
11:10 Hannah is our 14 year old. Our 14 year old,
11:12 I beg you pardon yes, I was around about
11:14 that age and so I stuff these sandwiches
11:17 under the bed in my bedroom.
11:19 And they were under there for weeks,
11:22 so I just pretended they weren't there,
11:23 until they went moldy sand yucky and horrible.
11:25 Now you may not find moldy sandwiches
11:27 under your children's bed.
11:29 But you know if your children are into those
11:31 teen years maybe you could find a
11:32 cigarette packet, that could be pretty
11:35 scary parents. That can be
11:37 pretty shocking this program
11:39 is not encouraging you to go deal
11:41 with the problem when you find it.
11:43 Well let me interrupt you there,
11:44 the reason that we're not encouraging
11:46 you to go and deal with it,
11:47 is this is just what in their world is going on?
11:50 We're just simply trying to.
11:52 It gathering data, gathering data,
11:54 it's coming to us, our biggest battle
11:57 if we follow through with this and I
11:58 hope you do because we,
11:59 we're trying to give you something
12:01 real practical that you can go away and do.
12:04 The hardest thing for us as parents is
12:07 if we go in there and we find all kinds of
12:09 stock, we find some DVDs,
12:11 or we find some magazines,
12:12 or whatever and we don't like it.
12:15 The hardest thing first for us to do is
12:17 not gonna be to blast the children out.
12:19 Which is why, we have step one, chapter one,
12:22 the first program was prayer.
12:24 Because you're gonna need to be on your
12:25 knees right there and when you find
12:27 that scary stuff that you didn't wanna
12:30 see in your child's bedrooms,
12:31 so if you're bumping into some of that right
12:33 after this program don't be discouraged,
12:36 be on your knees and ask the Lord
12:37 to help you and we're gonna guide you
12:40 through this over these next few programs
12:42 is to what to do about that.
12:43 There is a saying, ignorance is bliss.
12:47 But it isn't, but it really isn't in this
12:48 situation if the children are up to stuff,
12:50 you know another area I want talk about is
12:53 and it almost seems like it's being designed
12:56 and that is the techie world.
12:58 Because the techie world has taken up
13:00 a big part of teenagers but it's getting
13:04 younger, I mean these 8, 9 year olds
13:08 who have got iPhones and iPods
13:09 and such like so you know, they are,
13:12 their world is this little small screen
13:15 and it is very entertaining to them.
13:17 I mean they've got all kinds of things going
13:20 on there, but it's invisible from the
13:22 parents. I wanna challenge you as
13:24 parents, you know, this is another place
13:26 where the generation gap is real obvious,
13:28 oh yeah, because mom says I don't know
13:30 what to do with it, I mean you know,
13:32 so she thinks that nothing bad can go
13:35 on it, but you know parents most of the
13:37 cell phones, or the iPods of these days
13:41 you can be allover the web seen
13:43 all kinds of stuff and reading all kinds of
13:46 stuff and you can think your children are just
13:47 playing you know tick tack toe or something.
13:50 You know, it does a lot more than that.
13:52 So I don't wanna label this too much,
13:54 but you gotta ask yourselves and
13:55 questions if you can't answer these questions
13:57 I will give a tip of what you can do,
14:00 but you know, what kind of JPEG images are
14:03 your children sending each other.
14:05 If you knew the stats of what pictures go around
14:08 between teenagers you would wanna know what
14:10 your teenager was doing. You know what social
14:13 network sites are they on and what friends
14:16 are they, do they have? And what are they
14:19 communicating about, somehow,
14:21 we have to know that. You know,
14:24 that makes me think of that illustration.
14:26 Let, let we go, if, if some of that
14:28 doesn't mean most to you then take a
14:31 visit to InternetSafety101.org.
14:37 So it's InternetSafety.
14:40 No sorry I will say it again
14:42 InternetSafety101.org. There they'll talk
14:46 you through step by step you know
14:48 how to investigate that a little bit
14:50 with your kids. Ignorance is not
14:52 bliss parents, if your children
14:54 have got access to the web at school
14:56 or at home or on the phone or your
14:58 phone or on the computer you need to
15:01 know what is going on.
15:02 As we travel all over the country,
15:05 we get to hear the sad stories
15:06 that come to us from parents
15:08 from families and there was a 13 year
15:10 old girl someone who may have heard
15:11 about this story who began to start getting
15:14 to know a boy over Facebook I believe
15:17 it was, she had never met this boy,
15:19 but they're communicating over
15:20 Facebook and they a built a relationship
15:22 over Facebook and then for whatever
15:24 reason he started kind of get mean
15:26 and he began to tell her,
15:27 well he got her affection,
15:29 she was really fond of him wasn't he
15:31 and was almost devoted to you. Oh,
15:33 yeah there that relationship going
15:35 and then he began to start saying mean stuff,
15:38 they have never met face to face this is
15:40 what electronic relationship if you will
15:43 and he began to say stuff and eventually
15:46 he said you know, the world would be a
15:48 better place without you.
15:49 And she took it to heart friends,
15:53 and she took her own life,
15:55 and it was just a little while later
15:57 it was discovered he never existed.
16:01 It was somebody down street
16:03 who was jealous of the family.
16:04 But friends the parents didn't know,
16:08 there was the generation gap,
16:09 they had no idea what was going on
16:12 in her world. And so we challenge
16:14 you and if you're not techie and
16:16 I wasn't either particularly techie,
16:17 but these days I'm on techie stuff.
16:19 We're using techie stuff right here.
16:21 We're not using pieces of paper
16:22 we're using techie stuff,
16:24 because we're gonna be in their world.
16:26 That's right one of the reasons that
16:27 we're pushing our limits and getting
16:29 used to you know, all things is
16:31 because our kids want them
16:33 and so you they are not gonna learn
16:36 how to drive something that
16:37 I'm not gonna be involved in as well.
16:39 So parents be warned that techie
16:41 world while it's invisible to you
16:43 it maybe very visible to them.
16:45 So I wanna go back to the bedroom
16:48 because that's kind of where we're
16:50 finding what we're gonna find and you know
16:52 if you're a Christian family I'd encourage you
16:55 to take a look and see,
16:56 for example your child has a Bible
16:59 I'm fairly sure, where is the Bible
17:01 in the bedroom? Is it dusty under a
17:04 pile of other things, hardly can be found.
17:07 That's gonna tell you kind of a indication
17:10 to where their heart is with the Lord.
17:12 And you know, what, what's on the walls,
17:15 what posters do they have.
17:16 Are those posters gonna encourage
17:19 their spirituality or it's gonna take them
17:21 away from that. And you know sometimes
17:24 when I've been in my children's bedrooms,
17:26 I've been in my son's room and
17:27 his Bible is under a pile of stuff,
17:28 but quite often I'm encouraged to be ought
17:31 to say that he likes to set his room up
17:33 all pretty and nice and has it all lovely,
17:36 now the closet might be a bit of a disaster,
17:38 but you know the desk looks pretty and
17:39 there will be his Bible with some kind of a
17:42 center piece arrangement on his desk
17:44 that warms my heart to see that. Now,
17:47 that might not be what you see after
17:49 this program when you go take a look,
17:51 but we wanna today just find out
17:54 what is going on, get reality check on,
17:57 where are they? And then we could start
17:59 moving on them there. It's, yeah we said that
18:03 this program is gonna be practical
18:05 I hope you're getting a sense that,
18:07 this isn't some great leap.
18:08 You know it's like come on give us,
18:10 give us something, something,
18:12 something more fit, complicated to do,
18:15 all we're asking you to do is take a
18:18 little bit of time out of your busy life
18:20 is a parent and tune in to the world
18:23 of your children, they're transmitting
18:25 and we need to be receiving.
18:27 Listen to their, if they're on the phone,
18:29 listen their conversations again.
18:31 Yeah, we're not asking you to go
18:32 snooping around, but be a kind of
18:34 a secret detective or a private detective,
18:37 just figure it out not for anything malicious,
18:41 but you know we're going to be going
18:43 step-by-step taking our children on a
18:46 journey and taking ourselves on a journey.
18:48 So, we've been praying for power.
18:50 Now, we're being observant. You know,
18:52 a kind of an off the point that
18:55 I think we've got time for here is.
18:57 The main point we wanna leave you in this,
19:01 what in the world, what in their world
19:03 is going on, but it's worth asking
19:04 ourselves at this point,
19:06 what in our world is going on. You know,
19:08 what are we spending our time on?
19:11 Where, where are we going in life? You know,
19:13 if we're going this way and our children
19:15 are going that way then there is too many
19:19 broken families around us that you know,
19:23 if we don't want our family to turn out
19:26 like many of the families ahead of us in
19:28 years you know, you know,
19:29 maybe we've got little children,
19:31 they're 5 and 7 or whatever and,
19:33 and it's kind of like, oh!
19:34 That is too bad that, yeah the people up
19:37 the road there you know, their,
19:39 their daughter just kind of ran away,
19:42 she had enough with home
19:43 or liking the illustration of
19:44 that lady on the Facebook.
19:45 That's too bad, but if we're just
19:49 following the same pattern you and I,
19:51 Paul and Carolyn, if we're just doing
19:54 the same parenting as they're then
19:58 we're going to reap the same responses
20:01 and the same happiness or devastation
20:06 that they're reaping 'cause we're just
20:07 a few years behind. You know,
20:09 we have said for years that if,
20:13 if God leads us to do it,
20:15 we're gonna do it in our family,
20:17 because we want our children to,
20:20 to grow up, to be children that honor God,
20:23 that respect God, the people can say,
20:26 I can rely on Hannah,
20:28 I can rely on Caleb. You know,
20:30 when they're 20 and 25 or whatever
20:33 and they're out there in the workplace.
20:34 A lot of that starts when our children are
20:37 just this age. And we can't allow that,
20:40 that dreaded generation gap
20:43 to separate us from them. So,
20:45 off the point and we were gonna go off
20:47 the point a little bit, why in our world
20:49 is going on? What are some other things
20:51 that we should be looking at
20:52 in our own life as parents?
20:53 Well, we need to be seeing,
20:55 we'll spending our time doing,
20:56 where we listening to, what do we watching,
20:58 what we're observing,
21:00 what do we reading? You know,
21:01 those are kinds of things you can find
21:04 in your child's bedrooms as you look at
21:05 their music, as we said their posters,
21:08 the reading material you know,
21:09 what was the last thing they were
21:11 looking out on the web,
21:12 you can start to get a feel for,
21:14 where those things are taking your child?
21:16 Which direction are they taking your child?
21:18 And it's the same person of the family.
21:20 And so, you know a little tip,
21:21 a little side note of something
21:23 that we've chosen to do,
21:24 about once a year,
21:25 we'd like to look through
21:27 what do we have in our home?
21:28 What videos, what games, what books?
21:32 You know, what different things do we have
21:34 and which directions do those things take us,
21:36 tend to lead us toward?
21:38 And it can be quite shocking sometimes,
21:40 you can feel like, you know we're pretty good,
21:42 we you know, we go to church once a week
21:44 and we do those good things and we wouldn't
21:46 let our children do this, this and this,
21:47 but meanwhile things can kind of sneak
21:50 into the home without us realizing.
21:51 Not because our children are being sneaks,
21:54 but they're just kind of get there somehow
21:57 and so, our encouragement is to go
21:59 through and start taking a look at
22:01 what you have. And then be
22:02 thinking about what you can get rid of?
22:05 Because a lot of what we do as parents
22:07 is affecting our children. Oh yeah.
22:09 So, we can hardly come down on that
22:10 and say hey what are these DVDs doing
22:14 in your room? If they say,
22:16 well I have got them off the shelf
22:17 in your bedroom, it's like ouch.
22:20 You know, one of the hardest things to do,
22:24 if you, and you and I've had this
22:26 conversation before one of the hardest
22:27 things to do, is if you find something out
22:30 about your children maybe you've gone
22:32 into their bedroom and yeah,
22:33 you found some stuff and you think.
22:35 And it wasn't sandwiches it was worse. Yeah,
22:36 and it's like the temptation is to wanna
22:40 fix that right away. Oh! Yeah,
22:42 I've done it. Yeah, we've both done it.
22:45 You say, children you need to come here,
22:47 something we need to talk about,
22:49 come to your bedroom and
22:50 you just kind of blurt it all out.
22:52 And what does that really do.
22:54 It's not fair. Yeah, what,
22:55 what does that do as far as reaching
22:57 the hearts of our children?
22:59 The whole purpose here.
23:00 I'll tell you what it does?
23:01 Instantly it puts up a wall because
23:04 the children like oh well I'm not gonna be
23:06 open with them look what kind of
23:08 reaction they have. Well the world is like
23:10 in another gap, but the whole point
23:12 this section in the programs is that
23:15 we're trying to win their hearts.
23:16 That's right, so parents I have another
23:18 text for you this is probably one of the
23:21 hardest text in all the Bible to do,
23:23 you're gonna need every bit of a
23:26 connection with God even if it's the
23:28 little bit that you have, you can
23:30 needed all. It's in James chapter 1
23:33 verse 19 and it says every man
23:36 and in case you're wondering moms,
23:38 this is you as well, that's mankind,
23:40 let every man be swift to hear,
23:44 slow to speak, slow to wrath.
23:49 Now how we tend do that without
23:52 God in our life is we're quick to get angry
23:57 to wrath, we're very quick to speak
23:59 and we're slow to hear anything
24:02 that anybody else might be trying to say,
24:03 so it's the opposite to what we normally
24:06 used to, so parents if you find
24:08 stuff then just take it to the Lord
24:13 don't say anything to children at this point.
24:16 In fact you got cultivate the opposite,
24:18 if you've found stuff that you didn't
24:20 wanna find, you got to be extra nice
24:22 to the children because we gonna take
24:24 you in the next step or several steps
24:25 on several programs on how to deal
24:28 with this in a Christ like way.
24:29 We're not gonna ignore it, it's gonna be real.
24:32 So what you're really saying is we moms
24:35 don't wanna freak out when we find
24:36 stuff that we don't wanna find.
24:38 I, I know, specially for you you're such an
24:41 earnest mom and as probably other
24:42 earnest moms out there that really,
24:45 when they find out something is wrong
24:47 they wanna jump and fix it.
24:49 Well, maybe it's gonna turn you to tears,
24:52 and if it does take those tears to the Lord
24:54 privately he's seen it, he knows the situation
24:57 and now you know about it and it's your
24:59 opportunity to give it to the Lord,
25:01 to trust in him, to help the problem to fixed,
25:03 but diving in to the problem
25:05 is not gonna fix it right now.
25:07 So it's just the start point,
25:09 it's just the point that where we're gonna
25:11 move on and we're gonna take that
25:12 in the next few programs and work with it.
25:15 You know, we wanna invite you
25:16 to join us again after the break,
25:19 we'll have a short break here because
25:21 after the break we're gonna get into
25:23 that challenge, that step forward
25:25 specifically what you need to do to get
25:28 from this point into the next point,
25:30 remember the illustration of we're
25:32 just going step by step we're gonna
25:34 give you step two right after the break.