Participants: Margot Marshall (Host), Dr. John Clark, Jenifer Skues
Series Code: HL
Program Code: HL000007A
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00:15 Welcome to "Healthy Living."
00:17 I'm your host Margo Marshall. 00:19 There was a time when heart disease was the #1 killer 00:22 in Western countries, but not anymore. 00:25 According to the "World Health Organization," 00:28 heart disease is now the leading cause of death worldwide. 00:33 Why is that? 00:34 Stay tuned as we get to the heart of the matter. 01:13 In the studio with me today, I have Dr. John Clark 01:16 and health psychologist, Jeni Skues. 01:19 Welcome Jeni and welcome John! Thank you. 01:23 This is a very, very important subject and it's just 01:26 one that affects so many people. 01:28 So, John, would you like to start off by telling us 01:33 your amazing story of someone who was able to turn 01:36 their health around from heart disease. 01:39 The gentleman I'm going to tell you about today 01:42 was a trucker - he would drive across the United States 01:45 in a big truck; he was many miles from home down in 01:49 Tennessee when he had a massive heart attack. 01:53 They took him to a University Hospital, checked him out, 01:57 did everything they could and said, "There isn't anything 02:00 more we can do; we can't do a bypass surgery, 02:04 you're not a candidate and we can't do any stents or anything. 02:07 We're just going to send you home on oxygen." 02:10 Well they sent him home back up to West Virginia on oxygen. 02:15 Now this gentleman also had been smoking, 02:18 so he had emphysema which can contribute to heart disease. 02:22 That's a bad combination. 02:25 And he also had diabetes which also increases the risk 02:30 of plaque or atherosclerosis in the heart. 02:34 And then he had the atherosclerosis that led 02:37 to the heart attack. 02:39 So these type of people are in very difficult shape, 02:43 and he was no exception. 02:44 They say a large portion of his heart had died 02:48 in the heart attack and the result was something 02:51 called, "congestive heart failure." 02:54 His heart just wasn't pumping enough blood 02:56 or much blood and so he's home on oxygen; 02:59 he's on diabetic pills and he's in tough shape. And? 03:07 Lots of complications. Yeah, lots of complications. 03:11 So you think about some of the things that might lead 03:14 to a heart attack in somebody like this. 03:17 Well you've given us a few good ones with the 03:19 diabetes and everything else he had. 03:23 I think John is talking about some lifestyle things. 03:25 You've already talked about him smoking? 03:28 Produced stress. Yeah. 03:30 That's a major factor, the first organ affected by 03:33 stress is the heart, then the lungs and then the lower organs, 03:38 so his heart was being impacted totally. 03:40 And sitting in the truck day in and day out 03:43 not getting physical activity. 03:45 That's correct! 03:47 Sedentary lifestyle - well, he was at this place 03:52 in West Virginia and his wife was a church attender, 03:56 and I came there to do a series of meetings on health topics. 04:01 Well the church said, "Well will you see our "church 04:07 invalid," they called him. Oh goodness. 04:09 Labeled! What a label to have! 04:13 Yes and why was he called an invalid? 04:15 Well when I got to see him, he sat in his chair with his 04:19 eyes half open, on oxygen; he would slowly puff away 04:24 and he had this oxygen tank that made a click every time 04:27 he took a breath in, and I'm listening to this and I'm 04:31 thinking, "Well I'm happy to see your church invalid, 04:34 but "I'm thinking this is not a promising case!" 04:39 He can't walk across the room without feeling winded; 04:43 his heart is totally messed up with a heart attack; 04:48 his diabetes is contributing and he hasn't done anything 04:53 to fix that and I'm just feeling like, "Wow, you 04:56 know, there's more promising cases, is this going to be a 05:00 winner or not and will he even do what...?" 05:03 You know, if the church sends him to me, it isn't like he 05:07 said, "I want to go see Dr. Clark," like somebody 05:09 Yeah, not his own idea. 05:11 He wasn't a willing volunteer. 05:13 Well at least that would be my question, you know, 05:15 "Did you come here because you wanted to 05:17 or because they said, you know, you're going..." 05:19 And that's a big factor isn't it? Motivation! 05:22 Oh absolutely! 05:23 If you don't want to do it, you can teach them anything, 05:25 and the person won't contribute, 05:28 won't do anything, they've given up. Yeah! 05:30 It's like he'd probably already given up, 05:31 and that means he's telling his body he's given up, 05:33 the brain and the body are communicating which is huge. 05:36 And it makes a difference, it's people who give up 05:39 or don't have anything they can do, especially men will die. 05:44 We actually have a survival brain - part of the brain is 05:47 geared to survive and it's an unconscious part 05:49 that reacts, but you can actually consciously 05:52 shut it down like he would have gotten off of that 05:56 survival mode started to go, "Oh well, there's no 05:59 hope for me, my life is over," so he's allowing the brain 06:02 to shut everything down. 06:04 And so he and his wife came, his wife - I didn't really 06:08 go into her health issues, but she definitely 06:11 carried extra pounds and so I said, "Okay, 06:16 let's do our best here." 06:18 And so I took their health history and their lifestyle 06:21 history - I usually go through and ask them what they eat 06:24 for breakfast, lunch and tea... laughter... you might 06:29 call it the "evening meal," as it doesn't conflict with that. 06:31 We all know. Yes. 06:33 And how much exercise he got, how much water he drank, 06:37 and what some of his other habits were 06:38 that were good or bad and then I sat down and laid him out 06:42 a program - what time to get up in the morning; 06:44 what to do as soon as he got up; 06:46 how much water to drink; different exercises 06:48 for his lungs; foods for his lungs for breakfast; 06:51 different times for when to drink water in the mid-morning; 06:54 and what to eat for lunch; and when to do his exercise 06:58 after lunch and after breakfast. 07:00 You're talking exercise to a man who can't walk 07:03 across the room. That's right. 07:05 So that would have been a challenge. 07:06 What exercise did you give him? 07:08 I'm glad you mentioned that because what I basically 07:11 told him is this... 07:12 Every two hours, I want you to walk half the distance 07:16 you can walk without stopping and turn around and come back, 07:20 and then each time, try to push it a little farther 07:23 so if you can only walk a block, walk half a block out 07:25 and half a block back and see where you turned around 07:29 and next time, take a few steps further. 07:32 And so every two hours he was supposed to take a walk 07:37 and practice some breathing exercises. 07:40 Well it was very interesting, I sort of dismissed him 07:44 and thought, "Oh well, you know, I gave him this 07:47 huge program - a lot of lifestyle changes..." 07:50 Yes, very structured because he was a very sick man. 07:52 Very structured. 07:54 He had to really stick to it. 07:55 He needed to stick to it and within two months, 07:59 he was walking 3 kilometers a day. Wow! 08:03 He was starting his garden; his eyes were wide opened; 08:06 the oxygen was going down in the amount of volume he needed 08:10 per day or per hour. 08:12 How long was that before that... Two months! 08:15 Two months - that's amazing for someone who was so sick 08:17 and literally on death's door. 08:19 And the emphysema, I mean the lung capacity 08:22 is being compromised. 08:24 So it wasn't just the heart that wasn't pumping enough 08:27 blood and the lungs couldn't breathe properly, 08:30 so he had both of those major things. That's wonderful. 08:35 And so he also put in a chicken house and he 08:42 would come to meetings at the church... 08:45 What was this chicken house about? 08:47 Was that just something he could do physically? 08:48 Something he could do physically. Okay! 08:50 He got some chickens and they were laying eggs and, 08:53 you know, something to do, and his garden was 08:56 (flourishing)... Yeah, starting to share 08:58 stuff from his garden over time. 09:01 Gardening is actually quite more strenuous than 09:03 just walking because even just getting down to ground 09:05 level is quite a challenge, but it's a great 09:08 exercise, isn't it? Oh yes. 09:10 He's a good example of that principle of motivation 09:14 because he wouldn't have had any motivation 09:16 when he started - which is what you questioned him on, 09:18 you know, are you're willing to do this, but when you gave him 09:22 a formula and he followed it, he took action and it 09:24 increased his motivation, so that's a very good 09:27 example of that and then he would have taken more 09:30 action which is like when you go those few steps further, 09:32 and we can all do that, and we don't have to feel 09:35 like it, we just have to know "this is what I have to do," 09:37 and that's what he did. 09:39 You grow your motivation. 09:41 Yes, you do! It's like your garden! 09:43 It makes me think of a little saying, I have to tell you this. 09:48 I read it, it's a very good quote. 09:50 "A dream becomes a reality when you takes steps 09:54 to make it so." 09:57 I have to laugh about that because it's a little joke... 09:59 I have with my daughter, she had a bit of a 10:01 dream and I said something like that to her, 10:03 and she was crushed! 10:05 Do you know what? She did it, she did it. 10:07 We'll talk about it another day. 10:09 Yes, so he did this, you put before him 10:13 what could happen and even you were a little 10:14 bit unsure whether someone so sick could actually 10:19 become well, but you put before him what could happen, 10:21 and how it could happen, and he took the steps 10:24 and we haven't heard the end of the story yet. 10:26 So you've got more to this story, I think? 10:29 Yes and so he went to see his doctor; 10:33 they started cutting back on his diabetic medications. 10:37 And the congestive heart failure improving, 10:41 that's why he could walk so far. 10:43 And then the last time I saw him, I didn't actually 10:47 see him, I saw a picture of him... in West Virginia 10:51 they had something called, "Health Camp," meaning 10:54 people could come there for two weeks and enjoy the 10:58 outdoors and get instruction and eat good food. 11:02 And his picture was on the front of the brochure 11:04 walking big steps and looking just very vibrant, 11:07 and as an advertisement for coming to "Health Camp." 11:10 Ohhh, what do you know! 11:12 What do you know! A very good advertisement. 11:15 How long would that have been? Do you know? 11:17 That was about a year later. 11:18 About a year later and he was an advertisement 11:20 for a "Health Camp." 11:22 That's astonishing, actually isn't it - when you 11:25 think about it - with someone who couldn't walk 11:28 across the room and so on and had all of those 11:30 health ailments. Oh, that's beautiful! 11:33 He actually applied his will because in the brain 11:36 there's a physical part of the brain that is connected 11:38 with the will and the conscience and the will starts at the 11:41 front of the lobe through to the back of the brain 11:44 in the center there and it's now scientifically found that 11:48 the will is an active part; it's not just, you know, 11:51 something that we don't see - it's really 11:54 a physical part of the brain. 11:55 So when he was so sick, his will would have been 11:57 eroding, alright, but certainly as he improved, 12:01 then he put his will in action. 12:02 It's like a muscle - it grows. 12:04 So if we action the will, it will grow and it will 12:07 strengthen - so it's an important point. 12:09 Jeni, just while we're chatting to you, does the heart 12:13 have intelligence? 12:14 The heart is an amazingly intelligent organ. 12:18 I kind of think that's going to be news to some people. 12:22 So just to make this very clear, tell us about it. 12:25 The scientific community is finding that the heart has 12:28 an amazing intelligence all of its own. 12:30 It's not like our thinking brain, it has an intelligence 12:34 as to how it works and it's actually the 12:35 focus of the whole system because if the 12:37 heart fails, everything fails, the brain fails. 12:39 And it has circuitry, electrical circuitry, it isn't just a pump. 12:45 It actually has a lot of nerves and a very complex system 12:48 that now with new technology, they're finding out 12:51 there's a lot more to the heart than we really believed. 12:53 Isn't that interesting? Yeah. 12:54 We can actually shut the heart down. 12:56 There's a syndrome called, "the broken heart syndrome." 12:59 We hear about broken hearts and 13:01 I thought it was just an expression. 13:03 No, die of a broken heart literally. 13:05 Yeah and a client I had a long time ago, she was at the 13:09 doctor's and she said she was having what seemed like 13:14 a heart attack but it was a panic attack 13:15 because she was prone to them and the doctor kept saying, 13:17 "You're having a panic attack." 13:19 She was saying, "No, it's my heart, I'm having 13:21 a heart attack - I know it's my heart." 13:23 And she finally convinced him because he was trying 13:26 to get her to stop the panic and he sent her to the hospital, 13:29 and they did help the heart, it was the heart, 13:32 but the person who diagnosed her and the heart 13:36 practitioner, he said that it was actually "the broken 13:39 heart syndrome," and that was because she'd had 13:42 immense grief in her life - she had never dealt with. 13:44 And that was partly why I was helping her and she had all 13:47 these losses and deaths and people around her and that 13:51 had caused such grief was what overloaded the heart 13:55 it was overwhelming. 13:57 You can die of a broken heart. 13:59 The circuitry, it interrupts that electrical circuitry 14:03 of the heart and the heart can actually flood itself. 14:05 Ohh, that's just incredible. 14:07 And it's not a heart attack, it's actually, you know, 14:09 the heart is breaking. 14:11 So we've got to look after the heart! 14:13 But how would we do that, you might tell us 14:15 that in a moment, but John, you've given this man a 14:20 very strict program, did you tell us 14:22 what sorts of things he was to eat? 14:24 I don't know if you've covered that. 14:26 No, I didn't quite cover that yet and so I'm focusing 14:29 on three different things; congestive heart failure 14:33 and coronary artery disease, emphysema and lung oxygenation 14:39 and diabetes. 14:41 So we're looking at three things we have to straighten out, 14:44 and you might think - "Well that's terribly complex if he's 14:46 on medications, he'd be on medications for all three." 14:49 Well what's sort of neat about the original diet and original 14:52 lifestyle is it treats everything! 14:55 Yes, one size fits all! 14:57 One size fits all! Well tell us what it is. 14:58 What is this "original diet," as you call it, but it goes 15:01 back to the beginning of creation - what is that? 15:04 This would be like fresh fruits and vegetables, nuts and seeds. 15:08 And of course, we did pick on certain ones as being 15:12 the things he should focus on. Yes. 15:14 And so the things that we focused on for him were like 15:17 foods for the lungs - apples! 15:19 A person that eats an apple a day - you know the old 15:22 "An apple a day." It will put you out of business. 15:24 "Keeps the doctor away." Yes. 15:26 Keeps the doctor away - an apple a day will increase the 15:28 amount of air a person breathes by 150 milliliters 15:34 in every breath. Wow! 15:36 Through your breath, every breath. 15:38 How do these 150 milliliters, I'm trying to picture it, 15:40 what would that be like? 15:41 A half a cup - no, 250 is a cup so it's a bit over half a cup. 15:47 Isn't it? You don't know because you don't do metrics. 15:53 No, that would be 125 is half a cup, 15:56 so 150 is a bit over half a cup. 15:58 That's a lot of volume! 15:59 Yeah for your lungs. That's a lot of extra volume. 16:01 And that's by eating an apple a day. An apple a day! 16:04 Why don't we take a short break? Laughter. 16:07 Yeah, have you got an apple there? 16:08 Where's the apple for the teacher? 16:10 Isn't it funny that - I don't know if that's in all cultures, 16:12 but there's this is saying, An apple a day, keeps the 16:14 doctor away," and I'm surprised that 16:16 you were going to undercut your profession! Laughter. 16:21 Onions, you know how when you eat an onion, 16:23 it's almost instantly on your breath? 16:24 Oh yes! Oh yes! 16:27 Especially if it's someone else's breath. Yes! 16:29 And onions have a phytochemical called "quercetin," 16:32 which is also very beneficial for the lungs. 16:35 So we had him doing apples, onions, garlic; 16:39 grapes are good for the lungs. 16:40 They have resveratrol which helps lungs fight infections 16:44 and be more healthy and so lung foods were a big part of it 16:49 and then for his diabetes, we improved his intake 16:52 of whole grains especially things like oat bran - which 16:56 oat bran helps to control blood sugars. 16:59 And then for his heart disease, we're looking to totally cut 17:03 any kind of fats and eat lots of green leafy vegetables 17:07 which help plaque to disappear. Okay. 17:11 Additionally, things that help plaque disappear are good 17:13 sunlight, fresh air and exercise. 17:18 Basic principles. 17:20 So you're saying that these things actually reverse the 17:23 build up of plaque in the arteries. 17:26 That's correct, "Dr. Caldwell Esselstyne of the 17:29 Cleveland Clinic" has shown in angiography that plaque 17:32 can be totally reversed simply by changes in diet. 17:37 And his recommended diet is a low fat diet, beans, 17:41 fresh fruits and vegetables. It was a no-added fat diet, 17:43 if I recall correctly - he was very strict, very, very strict. 17:48 I remember him as saying to the people in his study, 17:50 "You play by the rules or you get out of my study." 17:54 Because he had to be able to show whether this 17:56 worked or not and if people aren't going to follow it. 18:01 I met him, he's a lovely man. 18:05 Yes, so that was like a whole food plant-based diet, 18:09 and the water and particular foods that were helping him, 18:12 so that's really good. 18:14 Well before we go on, I think you were going to ask me 18:17 about the heart again. That's alright, yes. 18:18 One of the things I learned very early when I was 18:21 learning more about psychology, was someone 18:23 who was a heart specialist and did a talk for us. 18:25 And he was saying that stress is a huge factor in 18:28 causing blockages about the arteries and that because 18:31 it's like having racing cars in your veins 18:33 because the adrenalin speeds up 18:36 the flow of blood and what it does, 18:38 it knocks cells off the wall and now you get a build up 18:42 that causes blockages, so I suspect he was probably 18:45 a very stressed man, not just physical stress but probably 18:49 emotional stress or mental stress that would have 18:52 contributed because he was such a chronic case. 18:56 So it's amazing what can happen when we're stressed. 18:59 And so what you're saying, you're talking about the 19:02 mind-body connection now and in this program, we like to 19:05 look at the four aspects of what makes up a human being; 19:08 mental, physical, spiritual, social - all of those 19:11 things play a role in making us well or, if they're neglected, 19:14 or abused, then it contributes to not being well. 19:18 Well a prime example is the heart-brain connection 19:20 because the heart talks to the brain more than the brain 19:22 talks to the heart. Oh really? 19:24 Yes, which is interesting and what happens is that 19:26 every movement, every flutter of the heart gives the brain 19:29 a message and this is why when the brain receives messages, 19:33 and it thinks the heart is being compromised at all, 19:36 what it will do is flood more adrenalin, 19:38 it kicks in the adrenals. 19:40 Your survival brain, the part of the brain that says 19:42 "We've got to survive," and it actually works against 19:45 itself at that point because adrenalin is going to get 19:47 the heart up - race the heart and it spikes and it is 19:51 uneven - the beating becomes uneven, you're getting 19:53 this sort of effect and we want this effect. 19:55 We want it to be really even, particularly the beats 19:58 between the heart need to be even. 20:00 So you use that connection and they find that if you calm 20:04 the heart rate, you actually help the survival brain 20:08 to shut the adrenals off and to then allow the whole system 20:11 to coordinate again - that's what we call "homeostasis." Yes. 20:15 So we have been given an amazingly wonderful 20:20 ability to balance the whole system 20:22 purely by calming the heart. 20:23 Now you're going to show us how to do that. Yes! 20:26 Alright, I'm very, very interested in this. 20:28 Okay, one of the things they found with the heart 20:30 that when you put your hand on your heart, 20:32 (this is now in research), when you cover the heart with the 20:34 hand, it actually calms the heart. Okay. 20:37 So putting your hand here, helps and then what I get people 20:40 to do is to breathe into the hand space and into the lungs. 20:44 Yeah, most people either shallow breathe or start from the 20:46 bottom, you know, work from the diaphragm up. 20:49 This is the reverse - it's like feeling the heart there 20:52 and then you just breathing in and... 20:54 Into the lungs? 20:55 You have the people tuning in to join us in this. 20:58 It actually feels lovely. 20:59 It actually just feels lovely from that moment. 21:03 Well what happens when you have someone... 21:05 yeah, you have a shock or distress - often people 21:08 will... like that - they grab the heart. That's right! 21:10 So the whole system is geared to automatically 21:13 do things like that. 21:15 Isn't that interesting, we just do it instinctively, 21:18 not even understanding. 21:19 So if you do a slow breath in, just breathing in slowly, 21:23 I try and get people through the nose if their nose 21:25 isn't blocked and then slowly out through the mouth 21:27 just like breathing through a straw and do that 21:30 to about the count of 5 in and count of 5 out. 21:33 What happens, the heart rate stops spiking and 21:36 jagged and what it does is it starts to do this... 21:39 Just like that - that wouldn't take long. 21:41 Just 1, 2, 3 of those breaths will do it. 21:44 And then this is where they had scientifically hooked people up 21:47 to equipment and EEG machines and things to 21:51 monitor and have a look at what happens when you 21:53 change the way you breathe. Isn't that incredible! 21:55 And it's become a very important point that I found 21:59 in helping people, particularly with trauma because 22:01 most people with stress and trauma, their heart rate 22:04 is doing 100 miles an hour and it's all over the place. Yes. 22:06 And the brain cannot focus and settle when the heart 22:10 is like that. 22:11 So shall we do this a couple of times? We can do this. 22:14 Let's just try it, I mean I'm very...? actually. 22:17 so I've got to be careful I don't touch my microphone again. 22:20 That's okay. My hand here on the heart, 22:22 and then we're just going to breathe in for 5. 22:24 Yes, just slowly breathe in. 22:26 lung and heart. 22:27 and watch your microphone. 22:28 Get your stethoscope out and see if it's working. Laughter. 22:32 Okay, you're going to count this in and count this out? 22:34 Okay, so I'm breathing in through the nose slowly. 22:38 Feeling it here and going into... And going that way. 22:40 So you feel it here first. Just do the one. 22:42 Let's do the one alright? Okay. 22:43 So off you go... 1, 2, 3, 4, 5 and then just purse your lips 22:51 like through a straw... 1, 2, 3, 4, 5. I feel fantastic! 22:57 Yeah, and then if you do that a couple of times, 23:00 you'll find your whole system will calm and you 23:02 actually align - we have a three-brain system 23:05 including the survival mechanism that will settle 23:07 and focus back in the present 23:09 and you'll be back in balance. 23:10 The emotions will settle; if you're an anxious person, 23:13 the fear will dissipate. 23:14 Yes, beautiful! Thank you for that. 23:16 And for those tuning in, I hope you've tried it, 23:20 and I hope you will. 23:21 And at any time when you're feeling stress or even not, 23:24 perhaps sometimes we feel stressed... 23:26 Put your hand over your heart and just do a few breaths, 23:28 and be kind to you and think of pleasant things 23:31 because the brain will like that. Yes. 23:34 That's been very, very, very helpful and inspiring. 23:37 I've got to say that, John, absolutely inspiring 23:40 to think that a person with all of those ailments, 23:43 not just one - emphysema would be bad enough, 23:48 and never mind congestive heart failure and diabetes and so on. 23:55 So those altogether and for him to be not able to 23:59 walk across the room and then become so well - is just 24:04 an amazing thing and just with such simple things. 24:07 I mean, I say simple and they are simple but challenging 24:11 to change because that's our biggest thing - habits can be 24:17 something that really gets a hold of us. 24:19 But it sounds like he had support like he went 24:24 to a church, so I guess he had friends and a 24:26 support network there that would have played a role. 24:29 Yeah the friends at church were very supportive. His wife? 24:33 His wife was definitely there to make the foods he 24:36 was supposed to eat but I don't think... she really 24:39 did it for herself - it wasn't like she lost 24:42 a lot of weight or anything. 24:43 Alright, but she did it for him and that's huge isn't it 24:46 because that's another thing that impacts on our health 24:49 is the social aspect of our lives. 24:52 And people who are the most socially isolated 24:54 have between 2 and 5 times the death rate of those 24:58 with close social ties. 25:00 So we're very complex beings and all of these things 25:04 have an effect - even the spiritual part which 25:06 would have been playing a role. 25:08 Perhaps he didn't even realize that but it does because 25:11 there's been about something like 1,200 studies 25:15 on the relationship between spirituality 25:17 and health in the last number of years. 25:20 And they all showed positive results. 25:22 Absolutely amazing but yes. 25:24 I went to a conference on "spirituality and health," 25:27 and it was an absolute eye-opener! 25:29 And spirituality just seems like it helps the immune 25:33 system and brings more blood flow to the frontal 25:38 part of the brain, the executive part 25:40 where we make decisions, where the will is 25:43 and spirituality. More motivation. Yes. 25:45 Yeah, better outcomes from surgery. 25:48 And when you've got all four going together, 25:51 there's a synergy. It is. 25:53 Yeah, it's greater than some other part... so when you've 25:57 got them going together, you get some amazing 25:59 absolutely amazing outcomes. 26:01 It is, I'm very impressed with this man and his outcome 26:04 because it took a lot for him to reverse it, 26:08 to start that journey out, particularly in 26:09 the condition he was in. 26:11 His brain would not have been very coherent or working well. 26:14 Oh no, and after he went on the program and we would see him, 26:19 his eyes were wide open; he started studying the Bible 26:22 a lot more and really, he got back his brain! 26:27 Yes. Yes. You see, with those conditions, 26:30 he would have lacked oxygen in the brain; therefore, the brain 26:33 couldn't function well and focus. 26:35 No, and that's right, you get sick and then you don't 26:39 have so much ability to do the things you need to do 26:41 to be well, so fortunately his wife, at least 26:43 was supportive of what he needed to do 26:46 even if she wasn't following the program. 26:48 And that's a shame that we have to have something like that 26:53 happen to be sufficiently motivated to 26:54 to do something about our health. 26:56 And wouldn't it be good if we could do it sooner. 26:59 And Jeni, I think you talk sometimes about baby steps. 27:02 Yes, we really need to just focus on that initial goal 27:05 and do what we can do because that will give us momentum 27:09 to do the next step, and the next. Yes! 27:11 The brain can cope with little chunks, but can't cope 27:13 with looking at the whole lot, and that's probably 27:15 what he did - he just saw his health and it's horrible 27:17 and there was nothing he can do about it. Yes. 27:19 But you gave him a purpose, and you gave him steps to do 27:22 and once he focused on doing that little bit more, 27:25 that little bit more - makes a huge difference. Yes. 27:27 So I would definitely encourage people tuning in to, 27:31 even if you're not sick, even if you haven't got 27:33 anything really bad going on, why not get in 27:36 before that happens and just prevent that because 27:41 it's just not a nice place to be, is it - when you're that 27:46 sick and you might even lose hope and so on. 27:49 But if you do have some health concerns 27:51 and it may not be the diseases that we've talked about, 27:54 but if you do have some health concerns, then definitely 27:58 just do something! 28:00 You know, do something that's going to make you better. 28:03 Well, I don't know that we would have answered 28:05 all your questions today, but if not, 28:08 you can contact Dr. John Clark or Jenifer Skues by emailing: 28:12 healthyliving@3abnaustralia.org .au 28:17 And to watch our programs on demand or download our 28:21 fact sheets visit: 3abnaustralia.org.au 28:25 and click on the watch button so you can view this 28:27 program again or other programs. 28:29 And remember, today is the first day of the rest of your life! 28:34 God bless you all. |
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