Participants: Margot Marshall (Host), Dr. John Clark, Jenifer Skues
Series Code: HL
Program Code: HL000005A
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00:14 Welcome to "Healthy Living!"
00:16 I'm your host Margot Marshall. 00:18 Today's topic is cancer, is there hope? 00:22 Even if it's stage IV (4) cancer? 00:24 Stay tuned as we discuss powerful foods that 00:27 can help you fight back. 01:04 With me in the studio today is health psychologist, 01:08 Jenifer Skues and Dr. John Clark. 01:11 Welcome Jenifer, welcome John and really 01:14 lovely to have you on the program and this is a 01:16 very, very sensitive subject. 01:20 This disease of cancer is one that I think it strikes 01:23 fear into us possibly more than any other. 01:25 And so this topic we really, really are looking forward 01:29 to what you have to say because we need to know 01:33 how to fight back when this thing comes. 01:35 So John, would you like to just talk to us 01:37 a little bit about that? 01:39 Yes, Bob, a friend of mine, was having trouble with 01:43 his bowels - they weren't working right. 01:46 He was like having symptoms that were a problem, 01:51 and we were sure that he was, 01:53 you know, going to be in trouble. 01:55 He went to the hospital, got some tests done, 01:57 and low and behold, he had colon cancer! 02:00 Well he didn't know what he should do and the hospital 02:04 ran him through the usual ropes of chemotherapy 02:07 and radiation and surgery. 02:10 And then they sent him home and said, "Okay, you're fixed!" 02:15 But in four months, things weren't going right again; 02:18 he went back to the hospital and the surgeon looked at him 02:23 and said, "Well you probably have some blockages because 02:27 chemotherapy makes strictures in your colon, 02:29 and we're going to have to go back in, 02:30 so let's take you back to surgery." 02:32 Took him back to surgery, opened him up 02:35 and he was totally full of cancer! Ooo! 02:40 They closed him up and said, "There's nothing more 02:42 we can do - we'll just send you home." 02:45 And then the surgeon said a funny thing... 02:46 He says, "Well if I was you, I'd probably at this point, 02:49 find somebody that would do something natural for you." 02:52 Well Bob was a bit taken back, "Well what do you mean, 02:56 what are you saying?" 02:58 "Well I'd find somebody that might do this, you know, 03:01 take a natural approach to this." 03:03 He said, "Well where would I go to find this." 03:05 He said, "I don't know but just, you know, look 03:06 around, you'll probably find something." 03:09 So he did and went on life's mission to find somebody 03:12 that would take a natural approach, nutritional approach 03:15 and he found somebody! 03:17 And so he went to this place and they gave him all 03:20 fresh fruits and vegetables, nuts and seeds. 03:23 They put him on some cleansing programs; 03:26 they gave him some herbs, his cancer went away! 03:30 Can we make that "herbs," we're in Australia now John. 03:32 Laughter... That's fine, I was just joking! 03:37 In America, "Herb" is the name of a guy! Laughter. 03:42 We have them too. 03:44 And so I gave him some herbs and his cancer went away. 03:49 And so he went back home, he thought, "Well, how can I 03:52 keep this to myself?" 03:54 He added 5 more bedrooms onto his house and started 03:58 bringing people in and he'd teach them how to 04:01 fix food - they'd all go to the kitchen. 04:03 He had a big kitchen with a big counter space, 04:06 and a place for everybody to 04:07 prepare their fruits and vegetables. 04:09 He taught them how to do herbs. 04:11 He started his own herb distribution company basically. 04:16 And he had them doing cleanses 04:19 and so he shared what he had learned. 04:22 That's incredible! 04:23 He'd basically been sent home to die... (Absolutely) 04:26 Because they said, "There's nothing that we can do." 04:29 And yet he was able to turn that around. 04:32 And you would, you'd feel like telling other people 04:35 and helping other people when you'd just come back 04:37 basically from the brink of the grave, wouldn't you? Yes! 04:41 And what a lovely thing that he did to do that and just 04:44 not keep it all to himself. 04:46 It's very sad that many people do die at that point 04:49 because they don't believe there's anything else 04:52 that can be done, yeah, and we're just showing here 04:55 that it's never too late and I think that's important 04:59 for people never to give up and to look beyond what may be 05:02 more conventional treatments which can help 05:05 some and if it doesn't, then there is a way, 05:07 and this is a good example of that! 05:09 And I might just say, prior to coming to Australia, 05:13 I was working at a health facility where we took in 05:17 cancer patients. 05:18 The large majority of our patients were cancer, 05:21 and we would see them turn around. 05:23 A lot of them had the same story - totally given up on 05:28 by the general system, fourth stage. 05:30 I remember one gentleman, he called me up. 05:33 He said, the hospital said, "You're going to home and die." 05:37 He went to another natural place, they said, "There's 05:40 nothing we can do, you're going to go home and die." 05:43 He said, "But the Lord has showed me that this 05:45 cancer is not unto death." 05:48 He says, "Can I come to your facility?" 05:50 I said, "Well I can't tell ya if you're going to die or not, 05:53 I don't know how they can tell you that, but I can tell you 05:56 we'll do our best for you physically, mentally and 05:59 spiritually and put you in the best position to 06:01 present yourself to God for healing." 06:03 And so he came, he had prostate cancer that had grown up 06:08 through the bladder and was going into his intestine. 06:10 Wow, that's huge! 06:12 When he came, he couldn't get out of bed hardly. 06:15 We thought, "Okay, he's just going to lay in bed and die, 06:17 but he started in on the program, lots of interesting 06:22 therapies going on and by the end of the 18-day program, 06:25 he was walking 1-1/2 miles; he was feeling a lot better 06:29 and 3 months later, some of our therapists went up to where 06:33 he went to church and found him in church and talked 06:37 with him and he was you know, "supposed to die!" 06:41 That's really, really encouraging! 06:43 I was driving along the road one day and in front of me 06:47 was a bus and on the back of the bus, you know they have 06:49 signs and different things that you read on the back 06:52 of the bus and it said, "Cancer is a word, not a sentence." 06:57 And I thought that was interesting - in other words, 06:59 not a death sentence, so-to-speak, and I thought 07:02 that was really good and there are things that can be done. 07:05 You can't be sure that every person 07:07 might not have left it a little bit too long, 07:09 but certainly there are many, many stories of people 07:12 who can actually recover, so tell us about the foods 07:17 that can help to fight back from cancer. 07:20 What are the foods that are those powerful foods 07:23 we promised we would talk about? 07:24 You know, when you come down with a disease, 07:28 many people think that, you know, "I was the unlucky one; 07:32 I was just sitting here and it landed on me," 07:35 and in reality, we've been doing things that have 07:37 set us up for this. 07:39 And one of the biggest problems with cancer is that it is 07:43 often an infectious disease; a virus, bacteria, some other 07:49 thing that came in and actually gave you a disease. 07:52 And modern medicine has sort of sold us on the idea 07:56 of "the germ theory," which says that, "I was me, 08:00 I was like everybody else and along came this really bad 08:03 bug and look at me now, I'm a victim!" 08:06 Well, it's better to look at it a little differently 08:10 and that is like this - it's like looking at the bugs as 08:13 vultures and do vultures eat live animals? No! 08:16 They come out and clean up what's already dying, 08:18 and you made yourself susceptible to whatever disease 08:21 by being a target by being the weak one; 08:24 by not being healthy, by not having a good immune system. 08:27 So you want to eat foods that maintain a strong immune system. 08:31 Everyone of us has cancer cells. 08:33 When they collect and get to where they reach a certain 08:36 number, the doctor says, "Look, there's a pile of them, 08:38 it's a tumor, you have cancer." 08:40 But if your immune system is working well, you'll be 08:43 shuffling those growing bad cells off to the 08:47 waste basket and you won't get cancer. 08:49 That happens if you're eating a diet that is nutritionally 08:53 dense especially with fresh fruits and vegetables, 08:57 nuts and seeds. 08:58 And so for cancer, we think of things that are in 09:01 antioxidants - blueberries, red beans, all kinds of 09:06 different green leafy vegetables especially some 09:10 of your root vegetables like beets! 09:12 Raw beets are great! 09:13 Cabbage - you think of all the family of cabbage foods, 09:17 good at fighting cancer. 09:19 You look at all the different types of sprouts - high in 09:23 antioxidants, high in nutrition. 09:26 Actually I was really surprised, you mentioned the red beans. 09:30 I was very surprised to notice that they are high on the list 09:34 of antioxidant foods - they usually come in a dried form, 09:37 and I've only ever, until I read that recently actually, 09:41 I've only ever thought of antioxidants being in 09:44 fresh fruits and vegetables, not the dried form. 09:47 But they're very high, the legumes are very, very high 09:50 and that little red bean, the adzuki bean is very high, 09:54 so that's just an interesting thing to know, especially 09:57 because it's a really good meat alternative and, I mean, 10:03 I'd put it the other way around actually. 10:05 Meat is an alternative to what we really should be eating. 10:08 So, yeah, very interesting. Jeni, what's your... 10:12 Well I was just listening to you, John. 10:14 One of the big things that comes up is the mindset, 10:17 of that person and their attitude and what they believe, 10:21 as well as contribute - you pair that with the diet, 10:24 it's like a double whammy. 10:25 And whenever anyone goes and gets a diagnosis of cancer, 10:28 what is their first reaction? 10:30 It's usually one of fear, terror and they're going to die, 10:33 so they're immediately giving the brain - is telling the body 10:36 it's going to die and we mentioned before that every 10:40 cell of the body is impacted by every thought you have. Yes 10:43 So if we want to live, we have to start living like 10:46 we're going to live even when we have an illness of some sort. 10:49 And this is where the beliefs come into it and that's... 10:52 yeah, you mentioned a few things about people's beliefs. 10:55 "Oh this is terrible, look at me, I'm not going to survive 10:58 now and what am I going to do?" because that's the way 11:03 we've been primed with cancer. 11:04 Not everyone dies from cancer. No. 11:07 Yeah and we're hearing here, you know, if someone 11:10 can go - "Well, look here's this man in stage IV, 11:12 who didn't die, I can do this." 11:15 See, it gives people hope when they hear stories like that. 11:18 And even if (and I'm not being pessimistic at all), 11:22 but even if they didn't fully survive, it will give them 11:25 some extra good years. 11:27 So it's a tricky one to talk about, I guess. 11:30 John, cancer, as noted, can't make promises 11:35 like you said when that man came to your clinic. 11:38 You said - well you don't know, but you would 11:41 give him his best chance and that's what we need to do. 11:43 We all need to give ourselves the best chance that we can 11:46 at a good quality of life. 11:48 There are a lot of lifestyle factors that impact cancer, 11:51 and certainly stress is a huge component. Yes. 11:54 And one of the things now which is a more recent area 11:59 of research is on that they call "epigenetics." Oh yeah! 12:02 And that means that we can be predisposed to an illness. Yes. 12:06 And an illness can include things like addictions because 12:10 there is a genetic capacity to the brain to be more 12:13 addicted or not addicted. 12:14 So and they're saying now that it doesn't mean you'll get it 12:17 if you got the gene, it's treated by diet, 12:21 health and lifestyle and stress. 12:24 Stress is a huge component of that. 12:27 But sadly, people are not listening to that. 12:30 You know, I know women who've gone and had a breast removed 12:32 because their whole family or the women in the family 12:34 have had cancer. Yes, we read about that 12:37 all the time. Yes and that's very sad. 12:38 In fact, there was an actress who recently had both 12:42 breasts done in the front page of the paper and so people 12:45 think - "Oh now I can do that too." 12:46 It's a common phenomenon. 12:48 Instead of going, "Well hang on, if I watch my stress levels 12:51 and live the health principles, I won't get it because 12:54 that's what happens." 12:55 You know, if you reduce your stress, watch your diet, 13:01 dense nutrients, then the body will fight it off. 13:05 It will cure itself. 13:07 And it's interesting, going back to - I think it was around 13:10 about 2005, the U.S. surgeon general, where you're from, 13:16 he said that our health status is determined, 70% of it, 13:22 is determined by our lifestyle. Yes. 13:24 What we eat and drink, whether we smoke and exercise, 13:28 and how we love. 13:30 Interesting, we might come back to that. 13:31 That was what he said and I thought that was interesting. 13:34 So that 70% is more than all other factors put together. 13:39 He allocated 10% to genetics, 10% to medical care, 13:45 and 10% to environmental factors. 13:48 So that's very supportive of what you're really saying here, 13:51 at what both of you were saying. 13:53 And I think that is of an amazing authority, 13:56 so 70% of our whole health status is determined 14:00 by our choices and what we do about our life. 14:04 Stress is a great factor in bringing the immune system down. 14:10 And people who are stressed a lot of the time, 14:12 their immune function is very poor; hence, they get colds, 14:15 flu viruses and lots of things happening. 14:17 So that means they're more predisposed to that gene pool 14:20 activating because stress weakens the whole system. 14:23 And that's why we got you on the program Jeni because 14:26 you're talking about how what we think affects us so 14:31 powerfully - every cell of the body you've actually said 14:34 in another program and, of course, John, 14:36 you're talking about the physical things 14:38 that we can do - the exercise and the water, 14:40 and the good food choices, 14:43 and there's more, of course, and that was just interesting 14:46 in what the U.S. Surgeon General said back then about how 14:52 we love and I was actually really surprised to hear that 14:55 coming from him - I don't know why I should be, I mean 14:56 I understand it really well, I just didn't expect it 14:59 to come from him and it's just an amazing thing because 15:03 well it comes back with attitude 15:06 and having healthy relationships. 15:08 Relationships are huge because people need people, 15:12 and we know that, we all known that but... 15:18 But if the heart is healthy and the brain has a capacity 15:22 to love, when we action that we're working 15:24 a healthy connection between the heart and the brain 15:26 which is very powerful. 15:27 But relationships are huge... 15:29 It hits the heart doesn't it? 15:31 Well that's right, yes. 15:32 That's where the heart comes into it and love comes into it. 15:35 That's right. 15:36 And this whole stress issue, when I was the medical 15:40 director of the cancer program, I realized that all these cancer 15:44 patients were just on edge. 15:47 They were like very stressed. 15:50 A lot of them would probably be considered 15:52 type A personalities. Yes. 15:54 Or if you get somebody that's obese or has diabetes, 15:57 and they're like, "Oh yeah, I'd like to come to your 15:59 program and I'd like to have fun there." 16:01 The cancer patients are like, "And are we going to be 16:04 drinking carrot juice? And do we have 16:07 this kind of herb? And should we go, bla, bla, bla, bla? 16:10 You know, it's like you guys are stressed out? 16:12 You're stressing me out! 16:13 So we immediately instituted a stress recovery program. 16:18 We gave them an hour a day on stress management, 16:21 and had a one-on-one with our stress counselor. 16:25 Well I have someone I know who is border type A personality. 16:29 She's a high achiever, had family, children and her stress 16:33 levels were huge and she was diagnosed 16:37 with cancer on the eye. 16:39 And she was told that if they couldn't treat it effectively, 16:43 they could have to remove the eye and to actually 16:46 remove it was going to send her blind. 16:49 And it would eventually do both eyes, 16:50 it was the left eye initially. 16:52 And because it was in the early stages, 16:54 she said, "No, I want to... like 16:56 the other story had "I want to try and sort this." 16:58 And so she went off and she learned to relax; 17:03 she cut her workload back; she started to deal with her 17:07 temperament; she changed her diet. 17:10 She had a reasonable diet but she went for foods like 17:13 you were talking about. 17:15 One of them, I remember her telling me, "Raspberries," 17:17 so she got raspberries and had those a lot and the 17:22 black currants or the other types 17:25 of berries and that that are so powerful. 17:28 So she did whole makeover, if you want to put it that way, 17:31 where she changed her lifestyle radically and it never 17:35 progressed, it disappeared and she's never had it since. 17:37 This was probably 20 years ago. 17:39 That's just absolutely fantastic! 17:42 Now we've talked about things that these people did, 17:45 and I'm just thinking and probably people tuning in 17:49 who are thinking, "Oh that's a big ask, I'm not sure 17:55 I could do that," what would you say, John, 17:57 to people who are feeling like that's huge, 18:01 especially when they're quite sick. 18:02 What would you suggest? What would you say to them? 18:05 You want to take it a step at a time 18:08 if it's being a challenge for you and once place to start is 18:11 drinking more water. 18:13 You'd be surprised how many people are dehydrated; 18:16 therefore, they are much more concentrated and 18:19 they need to get rid of toxins. 18:22 And so you drink more water and so I tell people to drink 18:25 a liter of water when you get up in the morning; 18:27 drink a liter of water between breakfast and lunch; 18:30 and drink a liter of water a couple of hours after lunch, 18:33 and this alone is a big help. 18:35 Now that wouldn't leave much room for the other 18:37 beverages that people usually like to have. 18:40 So that could be a good thing because it would displace 18:43 some of those things. 18:45 That's right and then as far as diet goes, 18:48 if you just take and look at what you're currently 18:50 eating - hopefully you're eating some fresh fruits 18:53 and vegetables, just start increasing those proportions. 18:56 Instead of one apple, two, you know, just make it 19:00 a larger part of your meal. 19:02 So go take a journey and that's really good because 19:05 it's not all or nothing and everything that they do 19:08 in the right direction is going to help and hopefully 19:11 they can get some good social support. 19:14 Support is a really, really big thing and being loved. 19:20 Often people with cancer do get good social support 19:22 because all their friends and that rally round will help them. 19:29 But there's other kinds of support too, Jeni, 19:31 I think you mentioned it in another program 19:32 like professional support. 19:34 Yes, absolutely! And I do, I work with people who 19:37 had that diagnosis or have had it and recovering and they're 19:40 still struggling to get themselves around it. Yes. 19:44 And certainly, I think what we were talking about before 19:46 that overwhelm of looking, "I can't do this." Yes. 19:49 And people, psychologically, can cope with changing 19:53 one thing, not 20 things at once. 19:55 So that's the sort of approach I take. 19:57 Okay, well how can you start to streamline your lifestyle 20:00 and start to improve and help your immune system 20:03 and your brain function. 20:06 And water is one of them because without enough water, 20:08 the brain can shrink if it's dehydrated and it makes it 20:11 very cloudy and we can't focus. 20:13 Yes, so often people come to me and they're actually 20:17 dehydrated and they're really struggling when I'm talking 20:20 to them and I'll get them a big drink of water - the difference 20:23 is quite marked. 20:24 How fast can that happen? 20:26 A drink of water? Pretty quickly! Oh alright. 20:29 Once you put stuff in your mouth, it just translates 20:32 through everything. Oh I'm going to - thanks for 20:34 that! Better have a drink of water. Laughter. 20:37 Yes and that's really good. 20:40 I think too that it's probably a time more particularly 20:46 when people are facing a crisis of any sort... 20:49 Would be more likely to health crisis. 20:51 Yes, they are more likely to change but also I think it's a 20:54 time when people tap into spirituality and they can 20:58 do it in two ways - it might be that they turn to God 21:02 for help and they draw strength from that or they might blame 21:06 Him for their illness and turn against Him. 21:08 We see this happening in all kinds of situations 21:11 which would drive people one way or the other. 21:13 And you know, I would just really encourage you to 21:17 draw strength because God would love to do that for you, 21:20 and rather than be angry which is just going to make things worse. 21:25 My friend, she did a bit more of a spiritual focus as well. 21:29 Sorry... My friend, she did a bit more 21:31 of a spiritual focus as well. Yes, yes. 21:34 Like I said, she did the whole package, also exercise, 21:38 so she embraced all the things we're talking about. Yes. 21:41 And when you've got them all going for you... mental, 21:44 physical, spiritual, social, which is all of who we are, 21:48 that's our package. Our total package! Yes. 21:50 When you have it all going for you, it's a synergistic effect. 21:55 (it is) and it's more than the sum of the parts. 21:58 And so it's just... and we need everything going for us, 22:01 even if we're not really as sick as that, we still need 22:04 to have them all going for us, why not! Absolutely! 22:07 Why not? Why would we just coast along? 22:10 And you're sort of talking here about people 22:12 who are really getting fearful when they get the diagnosis, 22:16 and this is sort of played up. 22:18 But a lot of times, by the time they can actually 22:20 find a lump or a bump or a tumor, it's been there 22:24 a long time - it's isn't like it popped up yesterday 22:27 and you've been hit! No. 22:28 And they push you to make a decision really fast, 22:32 that's stressful in and of itself! Yes. 22:34 So just sort of step back and take it easy and don't make 22:38 fast decisions and you don't need surgery tomorrow 22:40 or chemo the next day. 22:42 You need to sort of sit back and look at your alternatives, 22:45 and think - "Now how am I gonna approach this, 22:48 and what could be wrong with my lifestyle that I 22:51 need to make changes in?" 22:52 That's when they come and see me! 22:54 That's what I help them with. 22:55 Yes, that's a wonderful combination, (it is) 22:58 the psychology and the health advice. Yes. 23:00 It needs to be married, it needs to be combined 23:03 for total health. That's right. 23:06 And what a wonderful thing that you do there. 23:09 So then, yeah, really good. 23:12 And we might think a little bit about this... 23:14 where the cancer came from. 23:16 A lot of these folks we've talked about here were using 23:20 lots of animal products. 23:22 One interesting study that really struck me was in 23:25 California - they looked at milk; they looked at what 23:28 viruses were in milk and they looked at breast cancer 23:31 and looked at what viruses were in breast cancer. 23:33 Eighty percent of those with breast cancer had a virus 23:36 found in milk and you're thinking, "Oh, it can't be!" 23:41 Well does it make any sense at all that if I am drinking 23:44 a product from a cow's breast, that I might get a breast 23:47 cancer or a breast disease? 23:48 I mean this is a no brainer! I'd never gone over it like that. 23:53 There is evidence around, you know, from studies on animals 23:56 and that we eat with cancers and growths, that can 23:58 contaminate, it can also. Oh certainly! 24:01 Yeah, there's a lot of good research now that 24:03 shows that but you don't always see it in the papers. 24:06 It's not going to be the front line news 24:07 but that's the reality, yeah. 24:10 And a lot of these animals going to market are diseased. 24:14 And very stressed. Very stressed! 24:17 And a lot of them know they're going to die and this puts 24:22 high hormones into them, stress hormones. 24:26 And then there's the whole thing of the hormones 24:29 they feed animals to make them grow. 24:31 They've discovered they can grow 20% more beef 24:35 on the same amount of feed if they give them hormones. 24:39 Those hormones come straight through to you! 24:42 And you can gain 20% more weight on the same amount 24:45 of beef but you can also grow cancer and this is a big issue. 24:49 Because a lot of these cancers almost don't grow 24:52 in the absence of hormones such as breast cancer, 24:55 prostate cancer and so forth. 24:57 And so when you look at that, you have to realize 25:00 that modern cattle are not what they were 200 years ago. 25:05 They're run on a very strict hormone program, 25:10 lots of different chemicals given to them, 25:12 and they don't get exercise, and they don't always get 25:14 water and they don't always get good food. No. 25:17 And we can go into what they feed them, 25:18 but that's a whole scary thing too. 25:20 Don't want to look at that in this program, 25:22 we'll have everyone out there stressed! 25:25 No and I remember once, as a fundraising thing for our 25:29 youth group at the church, we decided we would bag 25:32 up some manure and sell it, the kids were doing that. 25:37 And we were told to go in on a certain day, on a certain Sunday 25:41 because that's when baby chooks would be 8 weeks old, 25:45 but then 2 weeks before that, they said you're going to have 25:47 to do it this weekend because there's been disease 25:50 in the sheds and you'll have to come and get it. 25:53 So we went there - well, they had all gone to market, 25:56 all these sick fouls - the chickens had gone to market. 26:01 So we did this job - it was dreadful! 26:04 I've got to tell you, it was dreadful because the smell 26:06 was terrible - it was in an enclosed building, 26:09 a huge enclosed building. 26:11 One of the children vomited and we were all wearing masks, 26:14 it didn't help, just from the smell and that's 26:17 the only air they breathed from the time they were chicks 26:19 till they went to market and 26:22 they were walking in their own manure all that time. 26:26 Well this is why we should eat fresh foods that are grown 26:29 on trees and on the ground, and plants. 26:31 This doesn't make it more palatable. 26:33 And then when we had finished, I said to the gentleman 26:38 in charge, I said, "Now do you want us to hose this out, 26:42 or do something?" "Oh no," he said, 26:48 We had disease, you know, so we've got to treat it for that." 26:51 I said, "Oh, what was the disease?" 26:52 He said, "Salmonella." 26:54 And I was really shocked and I think it must have shown. 26:57 And he said, "Oh, don't worry, it's not one that humans get." 27:00 But they would have died if they hadn't gone to get their 27:02 heads chopped off right then, 27:04 they would have died before they got to market. 27:06 So it's a big concern when you're talking about 27:11 healthy animals - we don't know. 27:13 And I told my parents... "Don't eat any frozen chooks 27:19 for quite a while" because of what had happened. 27:21 And then I talked to a friend of mine and he said, 27:23 "It happens all the time." 27:25 He used to work with them. 27:26 Have you ever heard of somebody getting a virus 27:28 from a carrot? Laughter. Oh, no! 27:31 No actually, I haven't. 27:34 No, you don't! Well that's good news! 27:36 No, no, so that's really a big issue. 27:39 So there are a lot of factors there and, you know, 27:43 as far as getting the antioxidants from the fresh 27:46 fruit and vegetables and also then there's the viruses, 27:49 and the hormones and the stress - a lot of these things 27:52 and the support. 27:53 We need a healthy immune system. 27:55 That means we eat healthy, think healthy, look after 27:58 the body and do all the things that keep it 28:00 in good working order. Thank you! 28:01 That's all for our program today. 28:04 If you'd like a fact sheet of the program or watch 28:06 our programs on demand, just visit our website: 28:09 3abnaustralia.org.au 28:11 and click the watch button. 28:13 And John and Jenifer are happy to answer your questions 28:16 personally - just email them at: 28:19 healthyliving@3abnaustralia.org .au 28:23 We'll see you next time on "Healthy Living" |
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