Health for a Lifetime

Reversing Over Weight

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Participants: Don Mackintosh (Host), Hans Diehl

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00:49 Hello and welcome to Health for A Life Time.
00:50 I'm your host Don Mackintosh.
00:52 And today we're joined in the studio with Dr. Hans Diehl.
00:55 Welcome Dr. Diehl. Glad to be here, Don.
00:57 We're gonna be talking today about obesity
01:02 it is no point intend or rather weighty issue,
01:05 and it's a large problem in America,
01:09 it's increasing, especially over the last ten years.
01:13 And you run what are called
01:15 Coronary Health Improvement Project,
01:18 coronary of course has to do
01:20 with the coronary arteries of the heart.
01:23 But the heart is connected in terms of the vessels
01:26 to everything else and obesity directly
01:29 effects the heart, doesn't it?
01:30 Yes, it does. So, tell us what's the magnitude
01:34 here of this problem
01:35 and what kind things does it cause?
01:39 Yeah. You know Don,
01:40 obesity one of the most sensitive subjects
01:45 we could talk about.
01:47 There's so much of misinformation out there.
01:51 And the issues are so complex,
01:55 they are physiological aspects, they are sociological aspects,
01:59 they are marketing aspects, they are dietary aspects,
02:03 they are genetic aspects
02:04 and how can we cover this subject today.
02:08 Let me perhaps just make a couple of comments,
02:11 one is the problem has become much larger in the last
02:17 ten, twenty years like you said,
02:18 just to give you some idea.
02:21 Here you see a graphic that shows what happened
02:23 to the average American standard seat.
02:28 The American seating company in 1900 used to be built,
02:33 they use to built seats,
02:34 the average chair size of 16.5 inches,
02:37 16.5. 16.5 inches
02:39 then as they pretty much around 17 inches in 1930s.
02:43 In 1970s it was still under 18 inches,
02:47 and then suddenly the last 20 years
02:49 it jump to 23 plus inches just to accommodate
02:54 the American enlarging derriere.
02:56 So that's almost two feet?
02:58 Yeah, we have to add six inches
03:02 especially in last 20, 30 years to accommodate
03:05 the American enlarging seat.
03:09 Now on the plane over here, the airline I am flying on...
03:14 they said that they have an extra charge
03:15 for people of size.
03:18 So they are charging more because the fuel is going up
03:20 and just to say today I said that the cost of fuel
03:23 for some of these airlines because they are carrying
03:25 such heavy passengers, they're charging
03:28 for one, two, three seats sometimes
03:30 and the fuel costs are going up by the billions.
03:33 Yeah, it is the classic example of the consequences
03:36 of being overweight, right?
03:37 We are super-sizing everything today from shirts
03:42 to trousers to gurneys to coffins, no longer fit.
03:47 And the question is why is this
03:49 it cannot be a genetic problem,
03:51 because it takes about three hundred
03:53 to four hundred years to change the genetics in whole society.
03:57 So it must be an environmental problem.
03:59 What could be the problems, but you know before
04:01 we do anything else I think it is very,
04:03 very important that we have great compassion
04:07 towards those people who are suffering
04:09 and are affected by this kind of problem.
04:12 And I thought the best way to set the tone
04:15 for our meeting today will be by doing a role in,
04:17 is that all right to you?
04:18 Yeah, this is an interview you were doing with someone
04:20 at one of your chip programs.
04:22 That's correct. Well, lets take a look at it.
04:24 Now, lets perhaps dig a little bit deeper.
04:28 Why are there are some other physiological reasons
04:31 that we can perhaps think of?
04:33 Why people tend to find comfort and solace in food?
04:39 They feel like they're not worth anything.
04:42 Oh, I see. Oh.
04:45 People make fun of them.
04:49 They have no friends. Really?
04:57 They just don't care, so they eat.
05:02 I see. Looking at you,
05:07 is that sort of a personal experience?
05:11 Do you want to share that with us
05:12 to help us understand that maybe a little bit more?
05:14 I was always heavy.
05:15 I was always the biggest kid in class.
05:19 I think I weighed a 150 pounds when I was in 6th grade.
05:23 Kids always picked on me, made fun of me.
05:26 I never had friends. I hated school.
05:29 I hated kids and their parents for letting them pick on me.
05:33 Making fun. If any of these people here
05:36 have grand kids or kids that pick on kids,
05:38 they ought to straighten them out and straighten them fast
05:42 It is not fun. And it hurts, doesn't it?
05:44 It hurts. Kids are impressionable.
05:55 And then somehow it doesn't help
05:59 with the weight problem does it? What happened?
06:04 I just wanted to get out of school.
06:07 I didn't try. I just wanted to get out.
06:09 It was too painful.
06:14 There was nothing there for me.
06:20 I just hated it.
06:22 What happened after you got out of school?
06:24 Did that solve the problem?
06:25 No, I was still heavy.
06:28 And I wish to God that CHIP had been there in 1980
06:33 because in 1982, I had my stomach stapled.
06:39 But if CHIP would have been there,
06:41 I know that I could have done CHIP
06:42 and not have gone through that.
06:46 Did that solve the problem, the stomach stapling?
06:49 I lost the weight but I can't eat right.
06:53 So you're kind of miserable?
06:55 Most of the time, yeah.
06:57 I pray over my food so I can eat it.
07:01 But I was 336 pounds and now I am down to 176 today.
07:12 But if CHIP would have been there,
07:14 I would have done CHIP instead of that.
07:18 That is wonderful, isn't it?
07:19 But you can see that when it comes
07:22 to obesity and overweight, sometimes the reasons
07:26 can be very diverse and sometimes the roots go
07:30 very, very deep, isn't it?
07:32 We internalize these things.
07:34 The most important thing.
07:36 The most important concept to keep in mind is,
07:39 that when it comes to obesity, to weight,
07:43 we need to extend loving concern
07:45 and understanding to people.
07:47 But how easy it is for some of us that are slender
07:50 to poke our skinny fingers at other people
07:54 and we have this judgmental attitude that is being picked up
07:57 as if it was a radar screen
07:59 by the other person, isn't that right?
08:03 Some people think that overweight people
08:05 have no will power and all those people say
08:07 that it has nothing to do with it.
08:08 We have all kinds of cliches in our society,
08:11 but I think the most important concept
08:13 to get across to an idea is that we need to be loving people.
08:18 People are worthwhile, regardless of how many layers
08:22 of fat are covering them.
08:24 This lady at 330 pounds is just as valuable
08:27 as when she now is 176.
08:30 And that's a great accomplishment
08:32 and we're very proud of you.
08:35 Oh, man, that was quite an emotional exchange
08:38 and I can see the others in the audience getting involved
08:41 as they listen to the pain that lady went through.
08:44 It's already bad enough to be overweight
08:47 or struggle with that, but then they have people tease you
08:50 and point that out and you know that was
08:54 how you were able to handle that in that setting,
08:56 I could tell was bringing healing to the lady,
09:00 psychologically speaking. But also the others could
09:04 emphasize with the lady and you know it just
09:09 underlines what you have said at beginning,
09:11 that this is a sensitive subject,
09:13 we can assume that people, you know, people
09:16 probably been teased about their way.
09:18 Americans now as a nation are being teased
09:21 about their weight by other people around the world.
09:24 But we have to go behind teasing to truths
09:27 that can help us transform
09:29 and I think that's what CHIP is about.
09:30 The CHIP program that you run there
09:34 and many people are running around the nation.
09:36 But what can we talk about here today that can help us
09:39 get a handle on how to reverse this.
09:42 You know when I talk to obese audiences
09:46 when I talk to women and men
09:48 there are struggling with overweight.
09:50 My first comment usually is I wanted to show you
09:54 that you are not responsible for your overweight.
09:56 And they will look at me, there is a trap
10:01 I know he is setting as up and he said no,
10:03 not really because at least impart you are not responsible
10:07 because we live in a society that is making us schizophrenic.
10:12 On one hand we see the beautiful slender people
10:15 on the front covers of magazines
10:17 you will open it up on the inside you will see
10:19 recipes for romantic moments in coronaries and getting fat.
10:25 I mean we're basically surrounding people
10:28 everywhere with fatty foods,
10:30 I mean you go to hospital fatty food,
10:32 you go to a restaurants fatty food,
10:33 you go to your home it's fatty food.
10:35 I mean, I am surprised
10:36 that we are not more obese then we are already.
10:38 So, I think that the contra has to assume
10:40 some responsibility in that we're very,
10:43 very seductive to people and baiting them,
10:48 it's the way we do things with fattening foods.
10:51 So, what we want to do today perhaps,
10:54 take a slim view of a few ideas so that might be helpful
10:58 to you and the basic idea here is,
11:01 begin to eat more food at the right kind
11:04 if you want to lose weight.
11:06 Okay, more food of the right kind
11:08 instead of saying less food,
11:11 the way you're saying that is kind of intriguing.
11:14 Eat more food of the right kind.
11:16 But we have always said to people
11:17 if you want to lose weight, push away from the table,
11:19 that's the most important exercise, right?
11:21 Push away table. People love food,
11:25 begins to show after a while.
11:27 What we're saying is just the opposite,
11:28 if you want to lose weight,
11:30 if you want to weigh less, eat more.
11:35 Are you interested? I am very interested,
11:37 eat more of the right foods. Eat more of the right foods.
11:40 And so to begin our discussion,
11:42 I think we have to first recognize as you see here
11:47 that there is an energy balance and that says
11:51 if you have more calories coming in,
11:53 then going out, these extra calories
11:56 will be deposited using in the central bank
11:59 right here, right? Right?
12:00 Right in the middle. Isn't it the central bank?
12:03 and you know as more and more close
12:05 come in and fewer go out.
12:06 The central bank become sort of saturated,
12:11 overflows and you have branch offices being setup
12:15 all over the body, and then you become
12:17 very, very subconscious.
12:19 And you know you feel like everybody is staring
12:21 at you and you feel I got to do something about it.
12:24 And the first thing you do is you follow
12:26 the siren call of the merchants of misery.
12:32 In seven days you lose seven pounds,
12:35 in three weeks you're gonna be ready
12:37 for the high school view when you get again.
12:40 And we far for this lions that promise quick results,
12:45 it's a quick fix trap and this is long term promise
12:49 so we have to be looking for long term solutions.
12:52 And my recommendation is if you want
12:54 to lose weight let all diets die.
12:57 So, don't look for a magic pill or a diet,
13:02 but look for a lifestyle.
13:04 Pills, portions, surgeries, diets all these
13:08 kind of things are second,
13:09 if not to a share should not even be used.
13:12 We are talking with Dr. Hans Diehl,
13:14 we are talking about obesity,
13:16 it is a problem that is effecting
13:18 millions of Americans and also the world.
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14:27 Welcome back, we're talking with Dr. Hans Diehl.
14:29 We are talking about obesity
14:31 and we in the first half recognized
14:33 the magnitude of the problem and also the fact
14:36 that it is emotionally laden. Some of the things we talk about
14:40 today you may want to have more information about
14:44 and you can get this program of course by calling 3ABN.
14:47 But you can go to Dr. Diehl's website chiphealth,
14:51 chiphealth.com and there is all kinds of resources there.
14:58 And thank you for making that web page,
15:00 I've visited it a number of times has a lot of links
15:03 it has a lot of scientific evidence.
15:06 And in fact the CHIP program I am delighted
15:09 to see that it has so much scientific validation,
15:13 some five, six published papers and other research underway.
15:18 So the reason for that is because its working
15:21 and now other researchers are getting
15:24 on the bandwagon and saying,
15:26 well, lets look at this.
15:27 And that leads me into my question here,
15:30 we saw the magnitude and also the emotion
15:33 that is connected with this problem.
15:36 But you started out by sharing
15:39 the number one simple solution
15:41 which is to eat more of the right foods,
15:45 and this is different then we normally
15:47 or usually say push away from table.
15:50 Give us some more insight,
15:52 you kind of tickled our taste buds so to speak.
15:56 Well, I think there are six guidelines
15:59 I would like to share with you today.
16:00 The first one is, and you see it here reduce empty calories.
16:05 We are particularly looking at calories
16:07 that have no nutritional values such as sugar
16:10 and then you have fats and you have alcohol.
16:13 These are the three, a soda pop.
16:16 Soda pop, I mean, when you think about this
16:17 the average family of four consumes
16:20 fifty six cans of soda pops in America per week.
16:25 Fifty six a week. I mean, that's a lot of sugar
16:27 as a matter of fact... That's like 10 six packs almost.
16:31 The number one, yeah, the number one
16:35 cause of sugar consumption.
16:37 The number one contribute of sugar consumption
16:39 is actually soft drinks.
16:41 So we need to really do something
16:42 about this less of this and more water.
16:46 When you say less, do you mean none of it?
16:48 Well, I mean cutting back on something
16:50 is gonna be very, very important.
16:52 So number one, reduce empty calories
16:54 in terms of sugar as such as sugar
16:57 and some of the other things that I want to show you,
16:59 if we can take look at that.
17:01 We want to show you how the sugar consumption
17:03 has gonna up of the last hundred years
17:07 or so we use to take in about twenty teaspoon of sugar,
17:10 now we are consuming
17:11 forty teaspoon sugar per person per day.
17:15 And that's largely related to the soft drinks,
17:18 are your soft drinks but there are some other
17:19 things too as I'll show you right now.
17:22 Take a look at the doughnut there,
17:24 see that's what you want to do from now on.
17:26 You all was want to zero in on the doughnut hole,
17:31 from the doughnut hole, If you eat that
17:33 and then people tell me no, no, no, no...
17:34 they are selling now those doughnut holes as well,
17:37 so you have to be careful there too.
17:38 Then you have also have cakes as you see in the last.
17:40 The next line, six, what is that six what of?
17:43 Six teaspoons of sugar. Six teaspoons
17:45 and I think the cake has fifteen it shows here.
17:47 Yeah, and then the next one look at that banana split.
17:49 Yeah, you have twenty five teaspoons,
17:52 it gives you some joy, but it doesn't last, does it?
17:55 The kicker comes the next day,
17:57 you step on the scale, you try to put your pants on,
17:59 and you try to put your blouse on, all of a sudden
18:01 you realize maybe I shouldn't have done that.
18:04 So that brings then to the second
18:06 part of the first guideline and that is to eat less fats
18:11 and oil as you see here.
18:13 And where do we find all of the oil.
18:16 Well, it's usually in refined foods, I mean, think about this
18:19 you could have one tube of Pringles
18:24 or you could eat nine potatoes.
18:26 Okay and the Pringles have all kinds of fats and oils
18:30 added to the potato.
18:31 It's the same number of calories,
18:33 you have one tube of Pringles, you have a thousand calories
18:36 and are you gonna be filled up after one tube of Pringles?
18:40 Probably not. probably not.
18:42 So you got to deep it in sour cream or something.
18:44 People usually do to fill themselves up.
18:46 Even, you could have, nine, nine medium size potatoes
18:49 could have eaten those in one session it's impossible.
18:51 So eat more food has it comes in nature you much, much safer.
18:55 So that's back to your concept,
18:56 when you say eat more you mean more foods as grown
19:00 and so you're so full that you can eat
19:03 the other, that's correct.
19:05 That's correct. Okay, so you get so full,
19:07 you can't have anymore.
19:08 Correct. Now you come to the next graphic
19:10 Okay. And here you see
19:11 what happens to us when it comes to...
19:13 There are some potatoes we have.
19:14 That's right, those nine potatoes
19:16 to that one tube of Pringles, right?
19:18 Okay. Or the crinkly back.
19:20 Now the next slides shows you the empty calories,
19:24 take a look at this.
19:27 Twenty one percent of our calories comes from sugar,
19:32 another twenty percent comes from fats and oils
19:34 and then you have alcohol 10 percent.
19:35 So, half of all the calories that we eat done,
19:39 half of all the calories in our society
19:41 has non nutritional value, so that we are
19:44 overfed and undernourished. Okay.
19:48 That's what we have to do we have to do
19:49 something about empty calories,
19:51 few of all these refined engineered seductive foods,
19:55 crinkly bags for instance. Okay.
19:57 So cut off the soda pop
19:59 or minimize it greatly. Minimize it.
20:02 And the way to do that is to replace it
20:05 with a strongest strength known to man,
20:07 the water, right? What else?
20:09 that can sink battleships, and if you put that in your body
20:13 you don't have room for the other
20:15 and then also foods is grown rather than process foods.
20:19 Yeah, few are crinkly diet foods, right?
20:23 Okay, few are the candy bars, the snacks,
20:26 as a matter of fact the bigger the snacks
20:29 the larger the slacks, that happens every time
20:32 because these are concentrated calories
20:35 a lot of with fat and sugar and no nutritional value.
20:38 Okay, what's our next?
20:41 Well, let's take look at the next graphic.
20:42 All right. It gives us some clue
20:44 of what we need to talk about.
20:45 Well, so we want to reduce empty calories, number one,
20:50 right? Okay.
20:51 number two, we want to be also be careful with animal products,
20:53 why animal products?
20:56 Animal products are kind of the animal processing things
20:59 I mean, the others are commercialized process food
21:02 for the animal processes, processes things as well.
21:05 I mean we have made that definitely a process food.
21:08 Well, yes. That's the animal has done that, right?
21:10 Right. Well, you know we often
21:12 and so on realize it that
21:13 when you have that sour on stake,
21:16 that's actually 70% fat.
21:18 Okay, we always thing about protein food,
21:21 but it's really a high fat food.
21:24 So, your hamburger, your ham, your corned beef
21:26 all those kind of things are processed food.
21:28 Yeah, they are process foods in that sense
21:30 and they are fairly high in fat and its usually animal fat,
21:32 which is not in our best interest anyway,
21:34 plus we have the cholesterol to worry about.
21:36 Then, but you also come to process sausages.
21:41 Sausages. They're hot dog.
21:42 Okay. and hot dog is about 80% fat.
21:46 Eighty percent fat in a hot dog.
21:47 Well, that's what makes it so juicy and so good.
21:50 What about French fries?
21:52 Well, there again you see,
21:53 you're much, much better off eating more
21:55 of the real potatoes instead of the French fries,
21:57 because you basically have a 60% fat product.
22:00 I guess that's a not an animal product.
22:02 We are talking about animal products.
22:03 Yeah, that's right. What about cottage cheese?
22:05 Well, you know I use the low fat cottage cheese,
22:09 if for instance you have the cheeses.
22:11 Okay. The cheese has no fiber,
22:14 it is small volume, but full and large calorie load,
22:19 this cheese is about 60, 70% fat.
22:22 Again, if you wanna lose weight
22:23 you have to be a little bit careful there.
22:25 So avoid these animal products?
22:28 Yeah, because most of them are fully high
22:30 in fat in calories, right.
22:32 So, if it has a mother or a face,
22:34 probably you don't want to eat it?
22:36 That's probably true, that's right.
22:38 So, now we have these three principles, less refined foods.
22:42 Okay. Number two,
22:44 reduce animal products and then eat more foods-as-grown
22:47 More foods-as-grown, like?
22:49 Well, I want to give you some examples,
22:50 you'll be absolutely amazed.
22:52 You know this will fig newtons squares.
22:58 Love them. Yeah.
22:59 I mean one little one, about 60 calories.
23:02 Yeah, oh, that's not good. No, that's okay.
23:04 Oh, they are so small like package, not too bad.
23:07 It's a nice little treat once in while, right?
23:11 But you know that's a processed food, isn't it?
23:13 Got to watch out for it, it's a processed food.
23:15 Now just you give me some example that 60 calories.
23:18 If you wanted to eat a cantaloupe.
23:22 Yeah. You would have to eat
23:23 a whole cantaloupe to get 60 calories,
23:26 a whole cantaloupe same as one little square of a fig Newton.
23:32 I get the point, so you can eat much higher volume for less
23:36 calories and I see that you are, you know, making sure
23:40 I know that, I am gonna take it hard.
23:42 But you see because most food-as-grown,
23:45 like fruits and vegetables and grains.
23:50 I am talking about unrefined grains.
23:52 I am not talking about fruit loops
23:54 or you know some of these commercial prepared cereals.
23:58 When you eat unrefined grain cereal products
24:04 or when you look at some of the legumes, the beans
24:08 they are very, very low in calories.
24:11 So you can eat lot of them, it fills you up
24:14 and then you don't have the temptations.
24:16 That's exactly right.
24:17 So that's what we would like people to eat more grains
24:20 eat more vegetables, eat more fruits and eat more legumes.
24:25 All right. What's your next tip?
24:27 Well, I want to give you another tip here,
24:29 I was at a medical convention two months ago
24:32 and you know there is a social hour
24:33 and people just move around
24:35 and they abide themselves a little bit of.
24:39 Alcohol? Can you imagine a small jigger,
24:42 plus a half a cup of nuts people thing nothing of it,
24:47 but right there you have same number of calories
24:50 it's about 750 calories that you could had
24:53 in five pounds of fresh fruits and two roast boot.
24:59 Wow! I mean I'm not trying to say everybody
25:02 has to eat five pounds of fruits,
25:04 but the point is you have a small concentrated
25:06 calorie sources like alcohol and some nuts,
25:10 I mean you compare to real food as it comes in nature.
25:13 Also you can eat large volumes you can feed yourself up.
25:16 And you even recommend having any of that anyway...
25:18 Now, it's true. True maybe if have nuts, but...
25:20 No. Okay, so again
25:24 fruits as grown is the key, eat more of those you get full
25:29 and then you don't have these temptations.
25:31 And then be little careful with the snacks,
25:34 you know snacks foods are usually
25:36 not carrots or celery sticks, Okay.
25:39 so we have to very, very careful with those snacks.
25:41 Okay. These snacks are calorie dense.
25:44 The last point that I want to make is,
25:47 is that we probably should increase our daily walking,
25:50 Right? And perhaps, tie into professional,
25:54 emotional, social, and spiritual resources.
25:58 Okay, so number four was increase activity walking.
26:01 Yeah. Those types of things.
26:03 Half an hour a day. At least.
26:04 And then tying into these resources.
26:07 You know sometimes you need to have more
26:08 then just doing the right thing on your own,
26:11 sometimes you need to have a counselor,
26:12 you talk to pastor, you need to talk to psychologist.
26:15 Sometimes good to have some support group
26:17 oh, I like in CHIP program.
26:18 We've a group that is working with you.
26:20 Okay. And you mentioned
26:24 that last thing as spiritual, but really that probably
26:27 should be the first thing, don't you think?
26:30 Well, if people are comfort with that,
26:32 not everybody is comfort for digging
26:34 into the spiritual resources.
26:37 It's the most powerful, it's the most life changing
26:42 and empowering relation we can find,
26:44 and I like to even introduce that to people to pursue that.
26:48 And in the CHIP program of course, you know,
26:50 you start with science, which is God's second
26:53 book documenting that all these scientific things
26:56 that is really spiritual when you think about it,
26:58 because it really is God's principles.
27:01 They are packaged in scientific research.
27:03 But when people come to have that personal relationship
27:06 with others and that CHIP environment they ultimately
27:10 are being introduced to spiritual concepts.
27:13 You know, Don, for those people who are comfortable
27:16 in folding their hands again,
27:18 there's nothing more powerful then bringing the ultimate power
27:22 in the universe to come to bare on a problem
27:26 that is very large and very different
27:28 to come out on your own.
27:30 Dr. Diehl, thank you so much for being with us today,
27:32 sharing these principles which are powerful principles
27:36 and thank you for being with us today.
27:38 If have more questions and you like to understand more
27:41 of Dr. Diehl's Coronary Health Improvement program,
27:45 the CHIP program, go to chiphealth.com
27:48 We're glad you joined us today and we hope that as a result
27:50 of putting these principles into practice
27:52 you have health that lasts for a lifetime.


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