Participants: Don Mackintosh (Host), Neil Nedley
Series Code: HFAL
Program Code: HFAL000225
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00:01 The following program presents principles
00:03 designed to promote good health 00:05 and is not intended to take the place of 00:06 personalized professional care. 00:09 The opinions and ideas expressed 00:11 are those of the speaker. Viewers are encouraged 00:13 to draw their own conclusions about 00:15 the information presented. 00:49 Welcome Health for A Life Time 00:50 and I'm your host Don Mackintosh. 00:52 And today we're gonna talk about something 00:53 you hear a lot about at least in America 00:56 and that is protein, high protein diets 01:00 versus not having those, but it's all the rage 01:03 right now and it seems to go in cycles. 01:04 And talking with us about protein today 01:07 is Dr. Neil Nedley. We're glad that 01:09 you're with us today. And this is, 01:10 this is the topic that you know it seems 01:12 to cycle over every 30-40 years. 01:16 It's a lot of myths about it you know; 01:18 we call it the great meat and protein myth. 01:20 Okay, so we wanna talk about that, 01:23 what is protein? What it's made up of, 01:25 and help us swerve through nerves here? 01:28 Well, protein actually is made up of amino acids. 01:32 Amino acids are the building 01:33 blocks of protein. Okay. And there are eight 01:37 essential amino acids that are necessary 01:40 in a human's diet and if we don't get all eight 01:43 of those in the proper quantities we're gonna 01:46 end up with problems. Okay. And as a result of 01:50 that people erroneously concluded back 01:54 around the World War II Era, 01:57 that we needed to get so much of those 02:00 eight that there was no problem 02:01 in getting an excess, just to assure that 02:04 we're getting the eight. And so, they were 02:06 recommending animal bases of protein as 02:09 being superior because it had 02:12 higher protein contents. 02:14 So, I think we have a graphic showing 02:16 the proteins you wanna work as 02:17 through that all the amino acids? 02:19 Yes, Dr. Rose debunked this myth, 02:21 but he found out that all eight of the essential 02:25 amino acids were in sweet potatoes alone 02:29 and those are the amounts of each one of 02:31 the eight starting with the red and ending 02:33 with the purple there. All eight essential 02:36 amino acids were present in proper amounts 02:39 in baked potatoes, brown rice, tomatoes, 02:43 pumpkin and in whole wheat. 02:48 And in addition to that corn, 02:50 rolled oats, white beans, 02:52 asparagus and you can see the huge amounts 02:54 there in asparagus and beans and broccoli. 02:58 And now you can see the recommended 02:59 amounts that's what he found out was 03:02 actually needed and that was double the amount. 03:05 His recommended amount was double the 03:07 amount that he found for any 03:09 grown very active man. 03:12 So, in other words to take to home from 03:14 that is that you can get all your 03:16 protein in any one of those. 03:18 Any one of those foods, if you are eating enough 03:20 to maintain your way, now that was you know 03:24 we wouldn't recommend eating enough potatoes 03:28 to maintain your way, you don't have to 03:29 eat a large amount of potatoes for 03:31 instance to do that. But that helps to 03:33 explain something you know, 03:34 I was teaching this actually in a nutrition 03:37 course in my town and one of the ladies taking 03:41 the course was in her 70s and she said, 03:46 this explains why we survive the great 03:49 depression? I said, what do you mean? 03:51 She said, all we had were white potatoes 03:54 that's all we ate for years during the great 03:57 depression because our family couldn't afford 03:59 anything else, we thought we'll all die out, 04:01 but we grew, and the kid grew and it was normal. 04:05 And yeah, they were probably shorting 04:06 themselves in some nutrients, 04:07 but they weren't shorting themselves 04:09 in protein because they got all 04:11 the eight essential amino acids. 04:13 That's fascinating, I mean you know, 04:14 I've referred people also talk about, 04:17 actually over in Germany or the different 04:20 concentration camps they would feed them 04:21 just potatoes or just that. 04:24 And at the end of the work of course the people 04:25 that were in those camps they didn't get 04:27 killed or actually healthier than the soldier 04:30 they came to emancipate them. 04:32 That's right 'cause they weren't getting 04:34 too much protein and that's the, 04:36 the flip side of this is therefore so worried 04:38 about getting enough protein. 04:40 Chances are that we're eating a lot of animal 04:42 bases of protein and the, the 04:44 animal protein actually can give us too much. 04:48 And in excess protein could uses urea, 04:52 and urea acts as a diuretic, 04:55 but it not only getvs rid of fluorine, 04:57 but it will also get rid of calcium. 05:00 Diuretics virtually never just get rid of fluid 05:03 they always take something else with it, 05:05 some diuretics will take potassium, 05:06 some will take sodium, the urea takes calcium 05:10 with it and with that of course 99% of calcium 05:14 being in the bones with that we'll also lose 05:19 bone mineral density and it's one of the reasons 05:22 why meat has been so strongly 05:25 associated with osteoporosis. 05:28 So, there is another reason to get your 05:30 protein from plants as basically 05:32 what you're saying? 05:33 That's right, and that is it can help 05:35 prevent osteoporosis. 05:37 The study that we have on the, 05:40 on a graphic shows that when we're eating 05:44 just 48 grams of protein a day we'll safe 20 05:48 milligrams of calcium per day that means 05:50 19 of those 20 milligrams end up in the bones. 05:54 When we're eating 95 grams of protein we lose 05:57 40 milligrams of calcium per day. 05:59 And if we eat 142 grams and these people 06:02 on these high protein diets are doing that. 06:06 They are losing actually over 100 milligrams 06:10 of protein per day. And that's a, 06:13 that's a huge amount over the time it will 06:16 cause loss of bone marrow density. 06:18 You mean they're losing not protein, 06:20 but calcium as what you mean to say? 06:22 That's right losing calcium. Okay. 06:25 And the protein is actually, 06:27 the excess protein is leaching 06:28 calcium all the bones. 06:29 Okay, so each one of those graphics, 06:32 it was actually the losing calcium 06:34 the more protein need. The more protein need, 06:36 right. Okay, so what is then, it's, 06:39 this is probably somehow associated 06:41 all the hip fractures and all these other things 06:43 we see in a country where this myth is prevalent 06:47 that is that we should eat meat to get our 06:49 protein rather than the plant sources 06:51 where we could get it? 06:52 That's right, the plant sources are of course 06:54 are the original primary sources of protein. 06:58 You know the cow, where does it get 06:59 all it's protein from You know it's a total 07:02 vegetarian essentially and it's getting 07:05 it from the grains. And that's a much 07:08 better way of getting it. 07:11 So, I think you have a graphic that then shows 07:13 relationship between the calcium level and, 07:17 and the hip fracture level. 07:19 Yes, it's a kind of interesting that 07:21 the higher the calcium intake, 07:25 you know up to a 1000 milligrams a day 07:27 the higher the hip fracture risk 07:29 and you can see Denmark, US, United Kingdom, 07:33 they're all up there in calcium intake. 07:36 And they're also up there in hip fracture 07:38 and here we have South Africa way down 07:40 the rayed only 200 milligrams 07:42 of calcium per day. And their hip fracture 07:45 rates are extremely low, 07:47 which help us to realize? 07:48 Now, this doesn't mean that calcium causes 07:51 the hip fractures. But interestingly the 07:53 societies that eat the most calcium also eat 07:56 the most protein and the most salt 07:59 and the most sugar. And all of these 08:01 together can lead to osteoporosis 08:04 and so we're actually getting rid of more 08:07 calcium in the body then what 08:09 we're are putting in, where the South Africans 08:11 they spare at all essentially because 08:15 being on a much higher plant-based diet and 08:18 not having the sugar and excess salt. 08:21 So, that's fascinating, when we, that we try 08:24 and do things the wrong way, we try and say, 08:26 okay, we'll eat all kinds of proteins from animal 08:28 sources and it hurts us. And let me say, okay 08:30 we're trying to take calcium supplements 08:32 and it doesn't really help us. 08:35 That's right, it's much better to get your 08:37 calcium from plant foods 08:40 instead of animal foods. 08:41 And what are some foods that are 08:42 higher in calcium, if I'm going down 08:44 to the story. I need some 08:45 foods that have calcium. 08:46 Well, you can see oatmeal is good as it is, 08:49 it doesn't have a lot of calcium. 08:50 One cup just 19 milligrams and lentils 08:55 38 milligrams and that should be calcium 08:58 content in milligrams. Quinoa 102 milligrams, 09:05 a rutabagas 115 milligrams of calcium. 09:08 Mustard greens are much higher source, 09:10 one cup a 152, Kale which is my favorite green, 09:14 one cup of 179 milligrams of calcium. 09:19 And then we have foods that are extremely 09:22 high in calcium. And there's would be 09:26 turnip greens, one cup 249 09:29 milligrams of calcium. Soya beans, 09:31 one cup 261 milligrams. You can see milk where 09:35 it lines up the whole milk 290, 09:38 skim milk is 301, but there are 09:40 higher sources, carob flour is one of 09:42 those 358 milligrams of calcium and 09:45 the highest source of calcium 09:47 is actually Lambsquarters. 09:49 Now, that is not the hind leg of a small sheep. 09:53 Lambsquarters is actually a green it grows 09:56 as a weed where I'm from in Oklahoma 10:00 very tasty green, very tender 10:02 and very high in calcium. 10:04 Is that right? So, the highest sources 10:06 of calcium are not milk, but plant again. 10:09 Yes, grains are excellent sources. 10:13 One exception and that would be spinach. 10:14 Spinach has a lot of calcium too, 10:16 but also contains oxalates so we're not 10:18 really absorbing that calcium like we are 10:21 going to from kale. Kale it's absorbed 10:23 to high degree, even lambsquarters, 10:25 it's absorbed in high degree. 10:26 And I might tell you those of who are 10:28 watching you think my kids won't eat kale, 10:30 my kids love kale, alright, for some reason 10:33 I mean, they didn't get that from me, 10:36 I'm learning to love kale, but man, 10:38 their, their mother and the kids they sit 10:40 around and they just you know, 10:41 could I have some more kale they're screaming 10:43 them back? And they love it, 10:46 they put a little lemon on it and that doesn't 10:48 do anything bad, does it? No. No, 10:50 and they just sit there and they just like 10:51 I've a kale feast. And you know it's amazing. 10:55 I should actually take a video maybe roll 10:57 it in the next time we do this program 10:59 'cause people are not believing me, 11:01 but they do, they do love kale. 11:03 And maybe after just put some 11:05 lambsquarters in there as well. 11:07 Other good source of calcium is sesame seeds. 11:10 Sesame is a good source, Tahini would be a good 11:13 source of calcium and figs are also 11:16 are excellence source of calcium. 11:18 Well, what about sodium? Is there any 11:20 connection between protein and sodium? 11:23 Well, there isn't regards osteoporosis. 11:25 A lot of people don't realize that high 11:27 sodium in the diet also leaches calcium 11:30 out of the bones. Is that right? 11:33 And high sodium will not only cause 11:35 high blood pressure, it not only increases 11:37 the risk of heart diseases, 11:39 but it also significantly increases the risk of 11:42 kidney stones because it's leaching calcium out 11:44 of the bones and putting it into the urine. 11:47 And it also is one of the major 11:50 contributors to osteoporosis. 11:53 Wow! So, you have a graphic on these on 11:54 sodium foods and where we are? 11:57 Let's look at that. Yes, the average 11:59 American diet has 4000 milligrams 12:01 of sodium a day. Wow! Those with 12:03 normal blood pressure should not have 12:05 more than 2400 milligrams a day; 12:08 those with high blood pressure no more than 12:10 2000 milligrams a day, and those with high 12:13 blood pressure and congestive heart failure 12:15 or liver problems a 1000 milligrams a day. 12:17 Some people with high blood pressure should 12:20 only be on a 1000 'cause their blood pressure 12:22 would drop a lot better, 12:23 but we do need some sodium in diet, 12:25 a minimum of 250 milligrams a day. 12:28 If you had a sodium free diet that would 12:30 not be recommended and so this is why if 12:33 you're totally on the plant-based diet for 12:34 instance if you're a total vegetarian, 12:37 you would add a little bit of sodium, 12:39 wouldn't have to a lot, but plants foods 12:41 are so low in sodium which you might sure 12:43 yourself if you didn't had a little bit. 12:45 But what are these foods that are 12:47 so high in sodium in American diet? 12:50 Well, prepared foods you know, 12:53 you go to any restaurant and people think in order 12:56 to enhance the taste for the general 12:57 public you have to dump sodium into them. 13:00 When we come back we're gonna look 13:01 at the list of foods that are high in sodium 13:03 just in case you haven't figured out 13:04 which ones are? I'm gonna talk 13:06 more about some of these myths as there is, 13:08 as a related to protein and calcium. 13:11 Join us when we come back. 13:14 Are you confused about the endless stream 13:16 of new and often contradictory 13:18 health information, with companies 13:21 trying to sell new drugs and special interest 13:23 groups paying for studies that spin the fact? 13:26 Where can you find a common sense 13:27 approach to health? One way is to ask for 13:30 your free copy of Dr. Arnott's 24 realistic 13:33 ways to improve your health. Dr. Timothy Arnott 13:36 and the Lifestyle Center of America produced 13:38 this helpful booklet of 24 short practical 13:41 health tips based on scientific research 13:43 and the Bible that will help you live longer, 13:46 happier and healthier. 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Now, some of these things 14:33 are brand new, you have a lot of the 14:35 base lines things in your book Prove Positive. 14:37 People that want information about that 14:39 can review the page Nedley, 14:42 Nedleypublishing.com and they, 14:45 they can read the base things, 14:46 but you're ensuring some new things with us. 14:49 Yes, and one of those new things is that 14:50 a high sodium diet actually leaches 14:53 calcium out of the system. 14:55 And it can lead to osteoporosis; 14:58 also if we don't have enough calcium on board 15:00 we don't make enough melatonin at night. 15:03 So, it can even cause premature graying, 15:06 it can cause increase the risk of certain cancers 15:11 because of not enough of the 15:13 anti-oxidant melatonin on board. 15:16 So, are you trying to talk about my grey 15:17 hair suddenly is that what you're trying to say? 15:19 Well, I mean there is genetically we are 15:23 all programmed to get grey at certain points 15:24 so as we get older it's actually normal to grey, 15:29 but we don't want the premature graying. 15:32 Okay. And if we run into calcium deficits 15:35 we're gonna run into some premature graying. 15:37 So, you're just saying I'm getting older, 15:39 I appreciate that. Well, alright, 15:41 well Dr. Nedley you know, we want to look 15:43 at the foods that are higher in sodium, 15:45 which foods are higher in sodium? 15:47 You kind of have a quiz for us here, 15:48 which of these? Yes I'd like to you 15:49 all to take this quiz that are watching here today. 15:52 Corn chips, what do you think is higher? 15:54 One cup of corn chips or one cup of corn flakes? 15:58 Then which do you think is higher, 16:00 a quarter cup of peanuts or 16:02 a can of tomato soup? 16:04 Then what do you think is higher, 16:07 a half cup of frozen peas or a half cup 16:09 of canned peas? And then which is 16:13 higher a cup of butter milk or a cup of 16:15 cottage cheese? One small bag of 16:18 potato chips or a cup of instant mash potatoes? 16:22 And then again which is higher 16:24 a serving of French fries or 16:25 serving of ice cream, soft serve? 16:30 Well, I'm ready to take the quiz, 16:32 I'm everyone at home has written those down 16:33 and they have their answers. 16:34 Let's look at the answers. 16:36 Well, actually each one that was second 16:39 in the list was the highest. 16:40 Notice the corn flakes higher than 16:42 the corn chips, cereals acceptance 16:45 for shredded wheat tends to be pretty 16:48 high in sodium. The peanuts 155 milligrams, 16:51 but look at that can of tomato soup 16:53 932 milligrams. Wow! Frozen peas 16:57 only 17 milligrams. Can peas are gonna 16:59 have higher sodium content 340, 17:03 buttermilk moderately high; 17:04 dairy is moderately high in calcium 257, 17:07 but look at that cottage cheese 850 milligrams. 17:12 Now, small bag of potatoes chips 168 milligrams, 17:15 but instant mashed potatoes quite high 17:17 491 milligrams. French fries 123, 17:21 but that ice cream again dairy moderately 17:23 high 220 milligrams of sodium. 17:27 And so, the take home message for 17:29 this is to read your labels. 17:32 A lot of people say hey, 17:33 I don't use much salt because they're not 17:35 using a salt shaker routinely, 17:38 but getting rid of the salt shaker only gets 17:40 rid of less than a third of the sodium 17:43 consumed in America. Two thirds of it is 17:46 already dumped into the foods before 17:48 we ever eat it. And so, that means reading 17:51 the labels is important. You may not be thinking 17:53 you're on a high sodium diet, 17:54 but once you read those labels you may 17:56 find out that your sodium intake is too 17:58 high and is contributing to a number of problems. 18:01 Like you said osteoporosis which is new for 18:04 someone of us and, that's right, 18:05 you also said lower melatonin grey hair. 18:08 That's right. I mean that right alone is gonna 18:10 stimulate a lot of people will do this. 18:13 That started lowering their sodium 18:14 intake. So, what are some foods 18:16 that are low in sodium, you said shredded, 18:18 shredded wheat was the only cereal that 18:20 you know or is total is total okay? 18:22 Well, total is gonna have more because 18:24 they do they put sodium in their, 18:26 shredded wheat there is no sodium added. 18:27 Okay. And so, the foods that are 18:30 whole plant foods, we have the graphic 18:32 showing you the foods that are 18:33 very low in sodium. And even peas 18:36 are gonna be very low. The frozen peas still 18:38 have some sodium added into it. 18:40 Your average serving a fresh fruit 6 18:42 milligrams of sodium. Average grains, 18:46 whole grains and cereals 7 milligrams of sodium, 18:49 if your nuts are unsalted only 3 18:51 milligrams of sodium. Vegetables have 18:54 a little higher 15 milligrams and then a 18:56 shredded wheat one serving only 3 milligrams. 18:59 And if you add up all of the sodium there, 19:02 in those plant foods you may not have your 19:05 minimum 250 milligrams a day 19:06 and that's why it's okay, if you're on a plant, 19:10 totally plant based diet to add a little bit 19:12 of sodium there, but for the average individual 19:15 who is buying all these prepared foods not 19:17 only should they not use the salt shaker 19:19 they really need to limit their intake 19:22 of these prepared foods. 19:23 What about these salt substance, 19:26 substitutes like potassium and other things 19:28 they put on, what do you say about those? 19:30 Well, potassium chloride is better than 19:32 sodium chloride for the average person. 19:34 However, if you have mild renal failure, 19:38 it can be dangerous because you're not 19:40 getting rid of the potassium and it can 19:41 actually cause the heart to stop. 19:44 Also we're finding out it's not so much 19:46 to sodium is the problem, but it's the chloride. 19:49 Alright. In potassium chloride still has 19:51 the chloride molecule and that chloride molecule 19:54 still gonna end up dumping 19:55 a little bit of calcium. Interesting, so when we 19:59 reduce our sodium you have the graphics that 20:01 helps us know what we're reducing our risk of. 20:03 Yes, we're reducing our risk of 20:06 high blood pressure; you can drop your 20:07 blood pressure up to 20 points by getting 20:10 on a diet that's 1000 milligrams 20:12 of sodium per day. It's been shown to 20:15 reduce the risk of heart attack. 20:17 No matter what other underline risk factors 20:19 of heart attacks that you have. 20:21 In addition, it reduces the complications of 20:24 congestive heart failure, cirrhosis, 20:26 liver and kidney failure. Reduces the risk of 20:29 stomach and nasopharyngeal cancer, 20:31 reduces osteoporosis and reduces kidney stones. 20:35 Speaking of congestive heart failure I knew 20:38 of several individuals one in particular that every 20:43 time that she would have even like a 20:45 bowl of soup she would end up in emergency 20:47 room with firmament congestive heart failure. 20:50 And after incubator put it on the ventilator 20:52 and give a strong talking to in regards to not 20:55 eating high sodium foods. 20:57 She'd be a good for a while and then 20:59 a temptation would come and boom 21:01 she do it again. And she would 21:02 end up in the ICU almost on death door 21:05 and this happened repeatedly we've had 21:08 dietitian come talk to etc, 21:11 but sometimes that soup became so 21:14 tempting, the memory, that she thought, 21:17 well you know maybe I'll get buy with 21:19 it this time, she ended up dying. 21:23 One time she got to the emergency room 21:24 too late after her high sodium foods 21:28 that with pickles I think. Pickles are also quite 21:30 loaded in sodium, she had some pickles and, 21:34 and some French fries and boom that was it. 21:38 That was it. Yeah, and that's because her 21:40 heart was so weak that. How old, 21:42 how about how old this is individual? 21:44 She was in her 70s. In her 70s, 21:46 so when you're on the edge especially. 21:49 Yeah, you all know the difference right away. 21:51 And of course a lot of people don't have that 21:52 immediate feedback on their body; 21:55 it's just paying a toll in the slow gradual 21:58 pull down turn. And then eventually 22:02 they have the feedback when 22:03 sometimes it's too late. 22:04 So, the protein problem, the calcium 22:07 problem and the sodium problem is 22:09 causing all kinds of osteoporosis? 22:12 And then another piece of new information 22:14 as far as osteoporosis we now know that 22:17 refined sugar also leaches calcium from the bone. 22:20 In fact, it may do so more so than the protein 22:24 and meat at least the recent study show this. 22:28 So, a lot of people are just worried about 22:30 their calcium, maybe they're low in the protein 22:32 if they have osteoporosis they also 22:33 need to watch out for the sodium and the sugar. 22:37 Okay, now once, I mean, I wanna look at that you 22:39 have a graphic on preventing osteoporosis 22:42 we wanna look at in a minute, 22:43 but when should people start being 22:44 concerned about, when they're 60, 70? 22:46 No, before that really we start tending 22:49 to lose bone mineral density after 22:51 the age of 20-25. And so, 22:55 it's not a bad idea if you have access to get 22:57 a bone mineral density in your 40s and see 22:59 where you at before, by the time you're 23:01 in the 60s osteoporosis can be so severe, 23:05 you can maintain, but won't be able 23:06 to catch up back again. 23:08 Okay, so if you'r in your 20s, 23:09 you should be listening to this program. 23:11 Absolutely. Okay, preventing osteoporosis, 23:15 you have a graphic that helps us. 23:16 Yes, restricting animal protein, 23:18 restrict sodium intake getting enough 23:20 absorbable calcium in the diet particularly 23:22 from the green sesame. Magnesium is also 23:25 important we need half as much 23:26 magnesium as calcium. 23:29 And then gravity exercises, 23:32 now that means brisk walking, running, 23:34 swimming is not one of those real 23:35 gravity exercises. And then if you're 23:38 standing for more than 4 hours a day 23:40 routinely that's been shown to 23:41 reduce the risk as well. 23:43 Okay, wonderful. What about animal protein 23:46 and certain glandular or lymph cancers? 23:50 Well, that's the other problem with too 23:52 much of animal protein; it does seem to 23:53 increase the risk of cancers. 23:55 In fact, T Colin Campbell has written 23:57 an entire book on this, and we get too much 23:59 of the essential amino acids it surprises 24:02 the immune system when cancer tendsto come about. 24:05 And lymphoma is one of those; 24:06 studies have shown that according to the graph 24:11 that we have as a graphic the higher 24:15 the animal protein intake, 24:17 the higher the incidence of 24:19 lymphoma worldwide. So, let's look at this 24:21 graphic and we'll see that you can see 24:24 a kind of increases as it goes up there 24:26 towards United States again. 24:28 That's right, Japan lower amounts of 24:30 animal protein virtually no lymphoma, 24:34 Yugoslavia is higher and then when 24:36 we get to Untied Kingdom, Netherlands, 24:38 Denmark, US we have high animal protein 24:42 intake particularly beef protein and we 24:45 have much higher rates of lymphoma. 24:47 And that even New Zealand I think another 24:49 graphs I've seen was very high as well. 24:51 Right. Well, talk to me then about low protein 24:57 diets in terms of what they 24:59 do with kidney failure? 25:02 Well, this has been an interesting phenomenon. 25:04 For years the medical profession was taught, 25:07 I was taught and medical school that one say 25:10 diabetic started to get dumping protein 25:13 in their urine, they were automatically 25:16 gonna be on dialyses, if they lived long enough. 25:19 In other words, their kidneys would continue 25:21 to deteriorate year-after-year. 25:24 In fact, every diabetic every year 25:25 if they're been followed by good doctor 25:27 is they're getting their protein measured 25:29 in their urine to make sure they're not on this 25:31 course and if they are we can't intervene 25:34 at this point. We used to try an intervene by 25:36 controlling the blood sugars that didn't work, 25:40 but what did work was not only controlling 25:43 the blood sugars, but on top of that lowering 25:45 the protein in the diet. And once we put these 25:48 diabetics on a 40 gram protein diet which is 25:52 adequate protein and you're still 25:53 getting eight the, eight of these 25:54 essential amino acids, but you're not 25:57 getting the access in proteins that's going 26:01 to leach not only calcium from the bone, 26:05 but the access in protein will destroy nephrons. 26:08 And we have a graphic that shows us this, 26:12 you can see the individual their kidney 26:14 function had gone down significantly they 26:17 are filtering over a 100ccs of blood, 26:19 now it was only 50ccs. Once you're down to 26:22 15 you're on dialysis. And then their kidneys 26:26 stabilized by being on a low protein diet, 26:30 no worst function. What happen to 26:33 the protein in their blood stream that's 26:35 what the next slide that goes over? 26:37 And this is pretty amazing, 26:39 the protein in their blood stream increased 26:42 you know you'd say well they're on a low 26:43 protein diet why did their protein increased 26:45 because they were dumping less 26:47 protein in their urine. Their kidneys actually 26:50 were able to spare the protein. 26:52 And so, even now their kidneys were 26:53 filtering the same, they weren't dumping 26:55 the protein in their urine and their body 26:57 nutritional status actually 26:59 improved significantly. 27:01 So, when you are a diabetic and you start to 27:05 have this dumping, the real solution there 27:08 is not so much focusing on the sugar 27:10 all though that's, that's. 27:12 We'll still focus on that. Yeah, 27:13 so focus on that, but it is lessening 27:15 the protein in the diet. 27:17 Lessening the protein in the diet, 27:19 getting on the strict on a strict low protein 27:21 diet will prevent you from needing 27:24 dialysis in the future. 27:25 And again let's back to Genesis 129 it's 27:28 those foods just grown that are the best to eat 27:31 if you're trying to lower that and get 27:33 an adequate source. Exactly. So, Genesis 27:36 strikes again back to the beginning. 27:39 Yep, that original diet that was good 27:41 for the man and a woman then 27:45 are also a good for human kind today. 27:48 Thank you, so much for being with us 27:49 Dr. Nedley, and thank you for being with 27:51 us for Health for A Life Time. God bless you. |
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